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DAYS Bill and Susan Seaforth Hayes Share Remembrances Of Patricia Barry & The Addie/Doug/Julie Triangle

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This week, daytime mourned the loss of actress Patricia Barry who died on Tuesday at the age of 93.  A soap opera veteran with an incredible list of television and motion picture performances and appearances, Patricia was best known for her role as Addie Horton Williams on Days of our Lives.

It was a role she played for more than 3 years, and a pivotal one.  Addie and her daughter, Julie (Susan Seaforth Hayes) were competing for the love of the same man, Doug Williams (Bill Hayes) . Soap fans also loved Barry as Peg “Cobra” English on All My Children, who was Brooke’s mother and ended up being revealed as the head of drug cartel.

On-Air On-Soaps sat down with legendary Days of our Lives veterans, Bill and Susan Seaforth Hayes, to honor Patricia Barry by having them share some memories working alongside their one-time co-star in one of daytime’s hottest storylines of that time, written by the late, great Bill Bell.

Here are excerpts from our conversation below …

Bill and Susan share their thoughts upon learning the news of Patricia’s passing:

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BILL:  It’s a loss in our life.  I started on this show in 1970, and Patricia started around 1971.  For Doug’s character, Addie was someone to work against.  She was talking down to Julie, and Doug was rude to her and called her “The Dragon Lady”.  (Laughs)  But Addie was a very important and a very loving character.  We had a love triangle: Addie/Doug/Julie.   It was beautifully written and very involving to all of us.  Within it, Addie became more loving and Doug changed when they got married, and they had their child, Hope.  Patricia was a really nice lady, a good actress, professional, and always prepared.

SUSAN:  She was very classy and funny.  I can remember her suggesting a storyline at the time.  She was the older woman to Doug.  Patricia played Julie’s mom and she was one of the original five Horton children.  She suggested we do a scene in a gymnasium where she would be on an exercise bike, and she would be trying to lose all the weight in order to catch Doug.  Patricia had a lighthearted approach to the material which was refreshing. and fun to be around.  I remember, Patricia gave parties for the cast.  Her class was evident in everything she did: the way she treated others, and the way she required being treated. She was just tops!

Susan recalls the story about how Addie was originally suppose to die from leukemia on DAYS, but because of Patricia’s misstep, eventually Addie was killed instead by a hit and run driver while saving her baby, Hope:

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SUSAN:  Patricia had opened a script and realized Addie has been beset with leukemia, and was very shocked and upset about this.  She told this to a columnist, where it was immediately printed … and then immediately was read by our then head writer, Bill Bell.  He didn’t appreciate it and had another plan entirely, which ultimately got carried out.  So ultimately, while she did not get killed by leukemia, the character was later hit by drunk driver and Bill Bell killed the character, anyway.  She didn’t see that coming, but she had seen the writing on the wall.  You don’t leak a storyline.  It was a very long time ago, where the secrecy of a storyline was very sacred, and you got punished for opening your mouth.

BILL:  I have a funny story about Patricia:  Addie was in the hospital and she just given birth to Hope.  She was very ill and Doug went to see her.  It was a wonderful tender scene.   But she was speaking so softly, and they did not have microphones that could hear her back then.  They had microphones about three feet away from her.   So what they did was; they took a tiny microphone and placed it right in her “happy valley”, so they could now here her every well! (Laughs)  BUT… she had not had anything to eat since 6am and her tummy started growling, and the growl did not sound like a tummy, but the roar of a lion.  It was coming out through this microphone that was turned way up to catch her soft whisper.  It was hysterical. (Laughs)

In the early 70, fans of DAYS were engrossed in the love triangle of Addie/Doug/Julie, but somehow Doug ended up with Addie! Bill and Susan discuss the story turn, while Susan was hoping to work more with Bill on-screen even more:

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BILL:  Doug loved Julie, but Addie had five million dollars!  Julie was ready to run away with Doug, but was planning on taking her son, David with them.  And Doug said, “No” to bringing him along.  Doug had these plane tickets to Portofino for “Mr. and Mrs. Doug Williams”.  So at that point, Addie said to Doug: “How about you marry me?”  Doug said, “Yes”.  He had the tickets, and Julie had said, “I will take David with us, or I won’t go.”  Doug at the time was a questionable, bad guy.  But when Addie and Doug married, Doug’s character started to evolve.  He became nicer, especially when she got pregnant, and had Hope.  Then he was a good guy from that time forward.

SUSAN:  At the time, I would be getting the scripts thinking, “Oh, my God.  I’m losing him.  I’m losing him!”  I remember going to our producer at the time, Jack Herzberg, and saying, “What’s this?  I’m not going to work with Doug?” And Jack said, “No! You are never going to work with Bill Hayes again.”  I was so on the floor!  I was crazy about him and Julie’s mother’s got him!  It was painful in every way! (Laughs)  But, Patricia Barry was a joy to have around, and the character was very memorable to the people who watched DAYS at the time.

BILL:  Julie and Doug were not supposed to get involved romantically.  Originally, Doug was brought on for Marie Horton and to get her defrocked!  When we started working together, Bill Bell while writing from Chicago saw something between the two of us (Susan and Bill) that said, “Those two! I can write for those two!”  He then threw away the other plots and began to write the story for Doug and Julie.  It was masterful.

SUSAN:  Doug had been in prison, and he had been given $10,000 to break up Julie’s marriage.  So, he was hired to pay attention to Julie and lost his way, and fell in love with her.

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BILL:  Doug loved Addie and respected her and they had a child, but it was not like the Doug and Julie kind of love which was passionate.

In closing, Susan reminds us all of a terrific performance of Patricia’s which summed up just how great an actress she was:

SUSAN:  Patricia was in the motion picture Sea of Love with Al Pacino.  She had a wonderful scene where Pacino is trying to catch a murderer and places an ad.  Patricia is one of the ladies that answers the ad and she realizes in the scene it’s a set-up, and she is prepared to expose herself romantically, but instead she kind of comes on to him, and he kind of comes on to her, and then he excuses himself.  She doesn’t leave the restaurant. She just stays behind while he interviews another woman.  The expression on her face of let down, despair and cynicism, and depression, was wonderful in just that one cameo scene. That’s how good she was.

What did you think of the sentiments and stories shared by the beloved and incomparable Bill and Susan Seaforth Hayes as they recall their late co-star, Patricia Barry?  Share your thoughts in the comment section below! But first watch a portion of the scene where Doug comes to visit Addie in the hospital from Days of our Lives, and then Barry’s cameo in Sea of Love as mentioned by Susan.

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Days was so great back then especially under Bill Bell…back then triangles like Doug/Julie/Addie and Aws Steve/Alice/Rachel were very entertaining…i wish there was another soap channel-Days like The Doctors have all their episodes and it would be wonderful to see it again…those Days fans today who werent around back then would see what an awesome family drama Days used to be…i miss the closing credits…it added a more dramatic effect to the show!!!

Jimh, I totally agree! There was a DAYS before Hope & Bo, Patch and Kayla and before Roman and John Black, Marlena had so much chemistry with Don Craig.

I wish they kept Don…Jed Allen was terrific..did enjoy him as C.C. Capwell on SAnta Barbara…70s couples were Doug and Julie, Bill and Laura, Marlena and Don, Greg and Susan, David and Trish, David and Valerie, Mike and Margo, Chris and Mary,…and so many more…i would love to watch it all over again!!!

It definitely was great. I watched with my grandmother, who called it “Julie” not Days of our Lives! If Julie wasn’t on that day, she was always disappointed. Those days spent with my grandmother are precious memories, so much so that I had intended to name our baby Julie. He turned out to be a David

i sometimes would skip school to watch…

So right Jimh….WHEN SOAPS WERE GREAT!!!!
…..DOOL,ATWT&EON!!

I wish the latter two had all their episodes too…Henry Slezar was a master crime/mystery writer…probably the greatest considering he was writing for soap for so many years!!!

Oh, the old days of soaps! I will always be a soap supporter, but something is so missing with the soaps today. They don’t make ’em like Agnes Nixon, Irna Phillips, Bill Bell, Betty & Ted Corday, Henry Slesar, Sam Hall and the great Doug Marland. Writers who kept our attention and the outcome of the stories were not always predictable.

I remember the scenes with doug/julie/addie like it were yesterday. That was some great stuff ack then. Wish doug and julie would reminisce about addie with hope and show flashbacks. Days is still great today and I have been watching the better part of 50 years.

Great interview

Susan hit the nail on the head with storylines being sacred way back when now its the opposite, everything is trashed before its onscreen.

Great article, but it was actually Susan Martin who paid Doug to get involved with Julie.

This is when I started watching Day’s with my mom…Miss those days of soaps along with the great Bill Bell.

Don’t forget she was Miss Sally(I think)on Guiding Light as well.

Bill Bell really could tell stories. He was a master of the genre. And so many talents to work with, too, like Ms. Barry. We are saying goodbye to many of these people who were part of our daily lives.

Reading this brings back all the memories of Bill Bell’s writing ability. DOOL would be #1 daytime again if we had a writer who loved what he was doing and the characters… magic that kept us penned to the black and white screen! The Horton Family had morals, they had bad stuff but it didn’t last long. I suggest Doug and Julie talk to the writers and bring back the love that was in the show and not have all the sin, the bad guys that are on now….personally I fast forward through all that mess…. how I long for Addie and Rachel!

As always, Bill and Susan Seaforth Hayes are an A+ CLASS ACT ALL THE WAY!!!!!

Yes.

I remember the storyline vividly. Days was FUN then. Remember the drama and Doug’s singing. And I so loved Laura and Bill’s story–and the triangle there as well: Mickey and Bill and Laura–beautifully underplayed by all three actors. And, yes, so well written.
I’m getting wistrful remembering. Miss those Days–so much!

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Stephen Schnetzer Talks On His Return to Days of our Lives and Working with Susan Seaforth Hayes In Emotional Episodes

Who says you can’t go home again? In the case of Another World favorite, Stephen Schnetzer (ex-Cass Winthrop), he has proven that it is true, and you can go back to your soap roots and where it all started for you.

Last week on April 11th, Schnetzer, along with several other key returns were on set at Days of our Lives taping all-new episodes of the Peacock streaming soap opera, centering on the funeral of Doug Williams (the late Bill Hayes), and as part of the iconic soap opera’s 15,000th episode.

Stephen is reprising his first daytime role as Steve Olson, the brother of Julie Williams (Susan Seaforth Hayes). The last time Schnetzer appeared on a DAYS set was during his one and only run on the show from 1978 to 1980. Clearly, viewers will be in for some very emotional scenes when Steve returns to Salem to be there for his sister, Julie in her time of need. In real-life, Susan has been going through her own grief, having just lost Bill back on January 12th at the age of 98.

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Michael Fairman TV caught up with Stephen during the 15K episode celebration ceremony, and during a break from taping the gut-wrenching funeral scenes, to get his thoughts on being part of these highly-anticipated moments that will air later this year in December. Here’s what he shared with us below.

What has this been like for you to work with Susan Seaforth Hayes after all of these years?

STEPHEN: She’s a dream and she’s so bright. We ran lines yesterday and we ended up just visiting for about 45 minutes and just catching up and telling tales about each other’s career. She even dropped off the autobiography that she and Bill did. And being back here at DAYS, every time I turn a corner, there’s another familiar face. When I was on the show 40 more years ago, a bunch of the guys, played softball on a team together. This is really a trip down memory lane as I knew it would be.

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Taping Doug’s funeral must be a hard day for Susan. Are you checking in with her to help hold her up through this?

STEPHEN: I am and I’m checking in with Amy Shaughnessy (Susan’s assistant), and she’s holding her up more than anybody. We’re there for each other.

There will obviously be some major hankie-inducing moments when Steve comes back to Salem to console his sister.

STEPHEN: Oh, wait till you see it in December. It’s going to be great.

Were you surprised you got this call to come back to the show decades later?

STEPHEN: It was out of the blue! I was completely surprised. They should have called me decades ago! That’s what surprised me. When Another World went down, I thought I’d land somewhere else and it never happened. That was more of a surprise.

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Cass is such an identifiable character for you. As well, you and Linda Dano (ex-Felicia Gallant) are so synonymous together as best friends Cass and Felicia from Another World. When fans heard you were reprising your role as Steve Olson on DAYS, they are now hoping there will be more of you on the show to come.

STEPHEN: Steven Olson is a real “Cassian “character. I cut my teeth on Steve Olson and that’s how Cass was introduced. He was kind of a roguish charmer. And then when the character stuck for Another World, they rehabilitated me, and turned me into one of the shows heroes. And that’s what would’ve happened if I stayed as Steve Olson probably. So, Steve is the ‘pre-Cass’, Cass.

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As the story goes, you originally decided to leave Days of our Lives?

STEPHEN: I was never on contract. I was doing a day and a half a week and I got a Broadway play directed by Franco Zeffirelli starring Joan Plowright and Frank Finlay. I was able to it as I didn’t have to break a contract or anything. I cut loose and went back to New York for that.

How well did you get to know Bill Hayes during your first time around on DAYS?

STEPHEN: My first episode was with Bill and Susan, as her long lost brother coming into Salem. They were so good to me. They were so kind. I had been doing eight years of classical repertory theater, never been in front of a camera. I tell everybody, it took me longer than any other actor I’ve ever seen to get comfortable in front of a camera. And they were very supportive at that time in my career. Coming back to honor Bill now in 2024, and to be see Susan, I am just so happy to be here.

Looking forward to seeing the scenes between Stephen and Susan Seaforth Hayes come December and Doug’s funeral and surrounding episodes? Do you hope that DAYS might bring the character of Steve Olson back for a longer stay? Comment below.

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51st Daytime Emmys: Outstanding Daytime Drama Series Nominations

On Thursday, the 51st annual Daytime Emmy Awards revealed nominations in several key categories via four entertainment news programs: Access Hollywood, E! News, Extra and Access Hollywood.

Three of the four announcements were major categories in the field of Daytime Dramas.

The nominees in the Outstanding Daytime Drama Series category are: The Bay, The Bold and the Beautiful, Days of our Lives, General Hospital, Neighbours and The Young and the Restless.

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General Hospital won this category last year, and has the most all-time wins for a series in this category. For the first time, the beloved Australian-based soap opera, Neighbours is now eligible for competition due to its reboot which streams on Amazon Freevee.

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The 51st annual Daytime Emmy Awards will be handed out in ceremonies in Los Angeles and broadcast live on CBS and streaming on Paramount+ on Friday night, June 7th.

Previous categories announced tonight via the entertainment news outlet included: Lead Actor and Lead Actress in a Drama Series.

So, what do you think about this year’s nominee for the Outstanding Daytime Drama Series? Who do you think should win? Comment below.

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51st Daytime Emmys: Tamara Braun, Finola Hughes, Katherine Kelly Lang, Annika Noelle, Michelle Stafford, Cynthia Watros Score Lead Actress Nominations

The nominations were revealed for the 51st annual Daytime Emmys. in the prestigious Lead Actress in a Drama Series category by Entertainment Tonight.

This comes ahead of tomorrow’s full list that is set to be unveiled at 12noon/9am PST on Friday.

In the running for this year’s Outstanding Lead Actress are Tamara Braun (Ava, Days of our Lives), Katherine Kelly Lang (Brooke, The Bold and the Beautiful), Annika Noelle (Hope, The Bold and the Beautiful), Finola Hughes (Anna, General Hospital), Cynthia Watros (Nina, General Hospital) and Michelle Stafford (Phyllis, The Young and the Restless).

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Previous winners in this category include GH’s Finola Hughes, Cynthia Watros and Y&R’s Michelle Stafford.  Days of our Lives nominee had won in the Supporting Actress category twice in her career.

Earlier, the Lead Actor nominees were revealed and you can find them here.

Make sure to be with us Friday night, April 19th for the Michael Fairman Channel’s 10th annual Daytime Emmy Nominations Special beginning at 5 pm PT where we chat live with some of this year’s nominees.

So, what do you think about this year’s Lead Actress nominees? Comment below.

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