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What Went On Behind The Scenes That Caused The Daytime Emmys To Not Be Televised This Year!

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Courtesy/NATAS

Soap fans anxiously awaited to find out who of their favorites made the annual and only kudofest that honors the genre … the Daytime Emmys.   Now in its 43rd year, the nominations were revealed on Thursday.  But with them game disheartening intel from NATAS … that try as hard as they might once again the ceremonies will not be televised.

This comes after a very successful 42nd annual Daytime Emmy campaign which aired on Pop that had the broadcast being restored to more of what viewers had come to expect from the Emmy telecast.

That included solid production values and segments, and starting to restore the glamour and prestige back to the event by having the ceremonies from the historic Warner Brothers Lot soundstages, and more.  The production team in charge of that, Michael Levitt Productions, is back on board this year televisied ceremony, or not.

So while On-Air On-Soaps had NATAS’ Sr. VP  Daytime Emmy Awards David Michaels as one of our special in-studio guest co-hosts on Soap Nation Live! with Michael Fairman Daytime Emmy nominations special last night (the archive and rebroadcast to be available later today), in which he addressed the reason the TV deal fell through at the last minute, shortly before the broadcast, Michaels spole with TV Insider in which he shared and gave some clarity of what went down behind the scenes.

Michaels on what happened with POP ( the network set to air the Emmys for the second year in a row): “Pop has been our champion and was absolutely willing to air the awards again but there was a money issue. Last year, NATAS paid for the entire production and we just can’t do that again. We’re a non-profit. Nobody could have made a greater effort to try to work a deal than [NATAS president] Bob Mauro, but we fell short on the money and our board decided not to go ahead with [a telecast] this year.”

Michaels on if this all was a last-minute about face:  “It was down to the wire. It was down to yesterday! I have nothing but praise for everybody at Pop, especially (president) Brad Schwartz. I will also tell you that we already have two bites for airing the 2017 awards, so this isn’t like the Daytime Emmys will never be on TV anymore. We had a record number of entries and a record number of judges this year. This thing is alive and thriving. We love the people of the daytime community and they love us. We intend to keep on honoring them forever.

Michaels went on to say their will be a lot of red carpet activity that he hopes to have the fans enjoy in one form or the other.  A streaming ceremony online is being looked into as well.

In yesterday’s press release containing the Daytime Emmy nominations, NATAS President Bob Mauro related: “After months of negotiations to find show sponsorship, the NATAS Executive Board has decided that the current climate for awards shows prohibits the possibility of a telecast this year.”

So, what do you think about the decision made by the Board of Directors at NATAS? Do you hope the show will be streamed online, or someone steps up with the additional monies needed at the last minute to secure a broadcast?  Being the only award show that honors this day-part, it’s a shame the struggles this award and those who work tirelessly to try to make the broadcast happen have run into such immovable walls.

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This is such a huge disappointment to me. Once again, the entertainment industry thinks that the daytime audience are fat, lazy housewives (or couch potatoes) who don’t deserve much consideration. I understand that in show business, the business part is equally important to the show part, but come on…NATAS can’t air ONE show all year for the daytime community?! While NATAS is putting forward the thought of a 2017 show, it doesn’t mean a thing for this year. I am a fan of Tony Geary, and this will probably be my last time to see him…

I watch 3 soaps and The Talk daily, and I cannot travel to LA to see the actors walk in and out of the hotel. I am keeping my fingers crossed that someone will come through with the funds necessary to televise the show.

It’s called sponsors, & not for nothing, but if you really wanted them to air you would have found a way! I say we have the awards at Laura Wright’s vineyard, and we have a huge pajama party! Money saved on gowns nobody will see, can be used to let Pop or CBS air them next yr! #selfish

It seems to me that ABC, NBC and CBS, whose daytime shows are all being honored, should pony up and pay for this show to be aired live on POP. Otherwise, it just proves what everyone already thinks, that ABC, NBC and CBS could care less about the viewers and their support of their shows.

Agreed

You said it Theadora.

Absolutely – or televise it during the daytime slot of their show.

It’s not that they wouldn’t pay (they would) but the heart breaking reality is there’s not enough soap or daytime fans left to watch the show in large enough numbers for the money to be well spent. Since the devastating affects of the 2008 writers strike, networks have cut back financially in all areas, not just daytime. If the daytime Emmys were watched at least 5 million people, the networks would still air the award shows. But 700k, 900k total audience is not s number the networks can make financially work. If the 700k or so fans left of daytime really are passionate, they would start a Go Fund Me or Kickstarter campaign to help pay for the show themselves!

Interesting thought, Ginger.

Why is it that the primetime Emmys are always televised, but not so with the daytime Emmys?

I was thinking why not just an Emmy Awards show covering Day AND Primetime? It’s all TV after all! Hello?!

ITA , but the truth is there isn’t enough time– the primetime Emmy awards have so many categories if they added all the Daytime ones, and we have to accept that includes all the talk, game, cooking and children’s shows as well as soaps, the broadcast will be too long—

Because the prime Emmys still can bring in a large audience!

The cost for the Primetime Emmy show is usually offset by the revenue received from commercial airtime. Whatever network airs the PE’s is able to charge a lot of money for advertising during the show because companies want those primetime slots to reach viewers. The Daytime Emmys, in contrast, is not able to offset its costs for the network. Not enough viewers watch the DE’s for a network to justify charging high advertising rates. The network has to at least make back its cost to air the show. If they feel like they are losing $, the either won’t air it or ask the producers to pay for the equivalent airtime they are giving up.

PE should help subsidize the DE.

Why? In entertainment corporations, the tv division usually splits the management of daytime & primetime. Each is responsible for their own revenue. If you worked in a company that produced two different products, why would the more successful division feel the need to “give away” money to the less successful one for an event that has no financial benefit? Their viewers aren’t the same; there isn’t even a chance for cross promotion from a daytime series to a nighttime one. Entertainment isn’t a charity, and this event is not as important as keeping the soaps on air on a daily basis. NATAS already said they were going to try to livestream it online, which is the cheapest way to do it.

Can’t someone just set up a camera and stream it live online? I’d rather forego expensive production values than not see the event at all. And I’m sure some handy dandy film students would do it well and pro bono for the credit alone.

Why is it we can preempt soaps for basketball and every ridiculous local news “breaking story” but we can’t squeeze in an hour or two to celebrate our shows? Someone should start a GoFundMe page.

Them doing a GoFundMe or Kickstarter would actually be a good idea. Think of the cool perks they could offer fans!

Not happy with this and especially for all the hard-working daytime casts and crews not to get their special night. No respect for daytime dramas nor for their viewers.

Well blame the viewers for not watching the DaytIme Emmys and turning their backs to DaytIme Television.

They still get their special nights, the dinner and the award show will happen it just will not be broadcast to the general public to view. All the hard working people are still going get their awards and perhaps they can all relax and have a better time knowing the general public isn’t watching them at home.

The show needs to be restructured and considerably shortened, with greater emphasis on the Daytime Drama acting categories and less time devoted to comedy bits and musical numbers. Non soap opera categories should all be grouped together either at the beginning or the end. Why is it so hard to treat daytime with the respect it merits and the actors with the dignity they deserve?

Daytime drama and other genres that matter, including talk, news, information/feature/lifestyle, and children’s programming.

I am not able to see it in Canada unless it is live streamed like when Kathy Griffin hosted it two years ago. That whole show was ruined by her filthy mouth and by the video pops who totally ruined the red carpet. I think sponsors took a good look at that and any reputable one said hell no!! If NATAS paid for the next year on the pop ch, which is not available in Canada, and yet were still unable to woo sponsors…The Daytime Emmys is tanking.

It’s always about MONEY!!!!! Well money will not buy you happiness but a soap award show can. I would love to talk directly to the person that said No to this not being on TV. Show him my world and how money does not buy everything. Come on email me and lets set up a fact to face meeting. I will even buy my own airline ticket to have a long talk with you. Marge R

Daytime serials as we once knew them are no longer a viable business model. Our soaps cost too much too produce and viewership has dwindled tremendously. I blame the networks because they did nothing to preserve the genre for the next generation.

The fact is;
Daytime tv is struggling.
In the near future daytime tv will be cheap reruns of junk and infomercials .
Nobody will be investing in the daytime programing or in the soaps.

The loss of the daytime Emmy’s speaks volumes. It is the beginning of the end.

Daytime tv will have need to go to pay tv..
Daytime tv is becoming an endangered species ..

Their should be soap opera awards, just the soaps..
It would less expensive and very doable..

The Daytime Emmy’s awards include every talk show and game show and cooking show.
I can see why nobody would want to invest in an award ceremony for them. Most are horrible slot fillers.
But-
the soaps stand alone and have a cast and crew of 100’s..

Airing the ” Soap Opera ” Emmy’s would be the way to go..

I agree, just have a dinner with the soap community, let Michael Fairman and Laura Wright host, show long clips of the nominees and then hand out the awards. I dont care about The Price is Right or Steve ‘freakin’ Harvey!

It would work like the British Soap Awards in the UK if at least only one broadcaster will be willingly responsible for producing the show (like ITV has for the BSA’s). The fans will vote for their favorites to win.

I think the big draw would be to include primetime soaps as well so it would be a true soap event.

Daytime will probably go in the same direction as Saturday night TV. [Ghost town!]

We don’t need a lot of the stuff we had last year (Tyra, Steve), just have a podium, microphone, we see nominees’ clips, someone announces winners, they accept award, and give short speech. Then give out next award and so on. I don’t need a big production.

The Screen Actors Guild does this for their awards ceremony. I actually prefer it to the Oscars and other awards shows with endless comedy bits that rarely work, musical numbers, etc. It puts the focus on the nominees and their work, which is why I tune in. Well, and the fashion, of course. Lol.

Cut the production values, just do the awards, forget the extras. If nothing it should be easy to “live stream”

Remember when the Daytime Emmys were broadcast in the afternoon and rotated from network to network? Why can’t that happen in the 21st century. ABC is constantly preempting GH, just recently for Nancy Reagan’s funeral, so why not preempt their daytime schedule for the Daytime Emmys. ABC could take a step towards making amends to the soap fans if the air the Daytime Emmys. What’s the problem?

ABC doesn’t owe a handful of DaytIme fans nada. We’re just a blip on their radar screens.

That’s only if you’re thinking from a soap perspective. The Daytime Emmy nominations list is – OMG – miles long, covering everything from children’s programming to talk shows to on-air promotions, etc. If every single nominee donated a dollar for the production, it would outshine the damn Oscars. REALLY.

Ridiculous these actors in daytime produce work 5 days a week 52 weeks a year . They deserve to have their award presented to them on tv. SMH DISGUSTED .

Why can’t each of the networks CBS, NBC,ABC) pool the money needed to televise the Emmy’s. They are THEIR products!

It is really sad that the daytime Emmy are not being broadcast. If all the other awards show can be broadcast Sivan this one. Daytime fans are once again being robbed of an award shiw and so are the actors that provide us with tv to watch and deserve to have there award show to air and also for there fans. I really don’t thinks that you tried hard enough to get vote award on air as if you did you have found a way and money to air the daytime Emmy awards. Very disappointing.

Here is my idea! Have them live stream via You Tube.Since NATAS is a not for profit organization they should be able to work out funding. Lots of churches livestream every day and week. Also maybe all the Emmys should be shown together and not separate telecasts. Here is another idea: Put it on PBS and class up the event and make a pledge to support public television. Just a few thoughts.

More of the same………….. Daytime not getting the respect it deserves.

Hi Tina..
There are many crappy daytime shows that don’t deserve respect.. lol
The soaps are a whole different thing they have a cast and crews of 100’s and 100’s.

IF- they had only Soap Opera awards, the Soap Opera Emmy awards it would be quite inexpensive and way less time and easily done.

I vote for; Soap Opera Emmy’s .. (just for the soaps)

You are soooo right su0000. It’s all about respect…………… That’s what I said in this PSA………… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvHFMSF-RQY

hi Tina..
I felt your passion for the soaps !!
Dark Shadows!! wow you saw the real happening, the excitement of hurrying home from school to watch it !
I saw it on disc .. My first binge watch, so to say. I could not stop watching, I always need just one more!
We’re down to 4 soaps. I find that sad and frightening when looking ahead 5 years.
When there is no money or interest to producing daytime emmy’s well, that is not a good sign as to what is happening to our soaps 🙁

Really????? This is so unfair. There may only be 4 soaps on air, however, they are watched and loved!!!!! At the very least can You Please Stream the show online?????

It sounds like they don’t even plan to film it, let alone stream it! If we’re lucky someone in the audience might video some parts on their cell phone and put them on youtube.

This article explains why the awards were televised last year. The academy paid for it. There is no commercial interest in daytime awards. There is relatively little interest in soaps compare to twenty years ago and four shows are limping along. Will there be four shows in a few years? I doubt it.
Truthfully if there are only four soaps on the air their award show is meaningless. It is laughable all four soaps are nominated in many categories.
This is a dose of reality for daytime drama.

It is a shame, that these talented actors , which work hard 10-14 hours a day.
5 days a week, for 52 weeks. But never get the chance to be awarded for it.
Every show in daytime fight for that opportunity to be picked as the best .
Soap, best actor, best talk show, best new show .
Then when it comes down to being able to be shown on tv. No one wants to air the award show.
Shame on you guys.
You want daytime tv. To do good, you want us to watch TV. You want us to buy all the products you show during the time we are sitting and watching TV.
But will not support the day time award show.
Shame , shame on you .

I’ll cut through the bullshit for everyone here, IF there were money to be made, the Daytime Emmys would be televised!

Thanks for cutting through the bullshit I agree.:)

You got it kathy!

I totally agree. I feel bad for the actors that get cheated out of their recognition.
They have a award show for everything, very disrespectful of the soap stars and the fans.
I remember when they would put on a good show.
It is total b.s.

The only benefit is if Hunter King wins again we dont have to see it BUT if Finola Hughes wins I cannot wait to see her million dollar smile!

I work 50 hours a week. I’m not recognized with an awards show. These arguments are ridiculous. There are only FOUR soaps left and all FOUR are nominited for best drama. This show has ZERO credibility.

Finally someone voices what I have been thinking all day. It’s a true shame that the families friends and fans will not see their favorites speak about their wins. The networks only acknowledge this wonderful genre when it convenient or to their advantage. Take a look at the Article How They Ended in the current SOD most definitely depicts the blood baths of the 1990s and 2000s.

0ohh gee..
Ron Carlivati, on his twitter is congratulating everyone…
((boowoo I could just cry , missing him..

All but one, Su, all but one.

yes.. all but poor Tony lol
goes to show the huge problem he was to Ron during his last 8 months..

Wanted to see him congratulate “the actor”.

Just air the daytime emmys, their are still many loyal fans out there like me. Such an injustice to these fabulous actors & actresses!!!

I wish SAG Union would fight for daytime members. I would settle for acknowledging the nominees. Come on Screen Acting Guild you represent ALL actors find a way air Daytime Enmys for your members. Everyone card carrying SAG member deserves to be recognized at an award ceremony!!

They are getting a ceremony with awards, it’s just not going to be televised. In order for a network to televise the awards, they would need advertisers to pay for commercial airtime during the awards show. It appears as if the eyeballs weren’t large enough from prior shows to entice enough advertisers to bid for ad time. Hence, no live broadcast.

But at least those involved get a dinner and ceremony to celebrate their achievements- so that’s a plus for the daytime performers.

Ok, this may sound cray-cray but is there anyway Kelly and Michael would incorporate the awards into one of their shows- I know Kelly is on our side and part of us so just putting it out there with love and hope.

YouTube any daytime Emmy award show from the eighties and you are in for some great fun, campy glamour and Kim Zimmer winning her 12th award and crying and carrying on and mascara running everywhere. wish we could get back to fun days like that.

Yes– I love watching Susan Lucci on her win and Shemar Moore and the audience going wild. So fun and exciting.

Frankly all award shows are struggling to keep the audience they once had, even the Oscars, the granddaddy of all award shows numbers have declined over the years. I suspect in the course of time, each of these award shows will be dropped by all broadcasters– the Daytime Emmy Awards being the low rung of the ladder is like the canary in the coal mine– they are showing distress first,but eventually all award shows will have the same fate.

However, with all the smartphones out there I am sure there will be enough stuff out there on social media the night of the awards that any truly die hard soap fan with access to a computer will see enough to get a sense of how the evening is going. As for regular fans and those without the internet, we will just have to wait for the highlights. Not great I know, but being from Canada I haven’t been able to see the televised show for many years, so I’m used to not seeing it and I’m fine with it not being aired live.

I listened to -I guess it is called a podcast like Michael Fairman does- it was with Louise Shaffer an actress from Ryan’s Hope and she was on several soaps, also wrote for several and a novelist- she made some excellent points about how producers have to target demographics and so on- it made me see the other side I guess that I haven’t and it was also great to hear her stories of doing live soap and if you Google her name you can see a link to the interview – I believe it was in 2011. I wish she would be brought into a soap now as a matriarch as I have always found her to be highly talented.

For those of us that have been watching for decades- and decades- this interview-which I so wish Mr. Fairman would bring her on his show as what I take away is I might as well stop complaining because the soaps will not return to the glory days and in the glory days they had more autonomy and were left alone to tell their stories- she talks about the writers on Edge of Night and how Ryan’s Hope brought in the new rich family to compete and gain in the demographics. It is a telephone interview almost 2 hours long. So I guess instead of complaining how Y&R had no press or outsiders at Victor’s trial, I should be glad they didn’t just video chat his trial, I guess. When they drop one story and on to the next and we blame the writers, perhaps they have been told to do so but we don’t hear about that.

The interview was right after AMC OLTL cancelled and she spoke of the Prospect Park deal and how if it worked would be great as then there would be a venue for our stories that are not demographic dictated and could focus on the story and I would pay to watch a new soap on HULU or Netflix or Amazon that did this.

Rae Woodard was one of my all-time favs and she tells Clare Labine how she wanted her character to be and later was freaked out that she had described a sociopath!! I would love to see her back on daytime and thanks that is a great interview, albeit long.

Yes!! Took pause at her being a sociopath myself! So love her and want to see her as a matriarch or sociopath or another split personality.

Why did the Prospect Park deal flop? Is it because soap fans were not tuning in for the episodes on-line? It seemed like they sunk a lot of money into the project and so much buzz and then over with and lawsuits.

There were many great ideas proposed by earlier posters, as well as relevant questions. What I’ve been wondering in the past couple of years is: since the soaps and the majority of other daytime genres are broadcast on the ‘regular’ networks, i.e. ABC, CBS, NBC, and they are the beneficiaries of the advertising dollars, shouldn’t it be up to these companies to put the money into live broadcasting on their own channels? They can rotate the broadcasts so each network only has to put their money out once every 3 years.

If the shows are good enough to be broadcast by these companies, then so should the one night per year of honouring the best of their shows! I’m saying this as one of the millions of Canadian fans of American soaps who isn’t allowed access to certain online companies’ broadcasts. No, we don’t matter for ratings purposes, but we’re fans just the same who deserve to see our shows honoured on a platform we can actually watch it on! ABC, CBS, NBC: it’s two hours on one night out of 365 days, every 3 years. Do the right thing and honour your shows and their fans.

Sprite^^^^ The Prime-time Emmy’s and the Oscars don’t need a fund raiser to stay relevant.

I think this is all a bunch a hooey. Who owns POP? Lionsgate and CBS. Who announced the nominations on TV? They were announced on The Talk a CBS daytime show starring Julie Chen. Who is Julie’s husband? Les Moonves, COO of CBS. POP airs the second broadcast run of Y&R and B&B, both CBS shows. Plus they air Days. CBS has lots of nominees competing for the Daytime Emmy, including The Talk, for which his wife has been nominated. Lionsgate has two time nominee Wendy Williams running in this year’s Emmy Race. Point is that both CBS and Lionsgate have alot invested in this ceremony. This is either a PR ploy or Julie needs to make Les sleep on the couch for a month

It is really embarrassing that talented daytime actors will not get the chance to be awarded publicly for their performances last year. Shame on the networks for not wanting to showcase their daytime shows and talent during prime-time. And CBS is so quick to boast that they are No.1. We do not need Tyra or upscale stages and music. Just read the dang categories, showcase their talent in clips, award and accept. Unfortunately, I see the end of a great era: daytime dramas.

Days Of Our Lives

Days of our Lives wins WGA Award for Daytime Drama Series

Sunday night, April 14th in concurrent ceremonies in Los Angeles and New York City, the Writers Guild of America is handing out their 76th annual WGA Awards in the fields of motion picture, television, news media, and radio/audio.

In the Daytime Drama category, Peacock’s Days of our Lives was the winner, taking home its fourth WGA Award in this category in a row.

The DAYS winning writing team consisted of Head Writer Ron Carlivati Creative Consultant Ryan Quan and Writers Sonja Alar, Jazmen Darnell Brown, Joanna Cohen, Carolyn Culliton, Richard Culliton, Cheryl Davis, Kirk Doering, Christopher Dunn, Jamey Giddens, David Kreizman, Henry Newman, Dave Ryan, and Katherine D. Schock.

Photo: JPI

The team from Days of our Lives bested the only other team in the category from General Hospital, which consisted of former GH head writers: Dan O’Connor, Chris Van Etten Writers Ashley Cook, Emily Culliton, Suzanne Flynn, Charlotte Gibson, Lucky Gold, Kate Hall, Elizabeth Korte, Shannon Peace, Stacey Pulwer, Dave Rupel, Lisa Seidman, and Scott Sickles.

Courtesy/Peacock

As previously reported, a show spokesperson for Days of our Lives shared that the episodes submitted for the competition were #14663, #14678 & #14679, and mostly centered around the death, and the funeral of Victor Kiriakis played by the late John Aniston.

This week, DAYS head scribe, Ron Carlivati, confirmed that, and told Michael Fairman TV on the decision of the scripts the team submitted: “I like to have some humor, but it was also the funeral, and then there was Sarah (Linsey Godfrey) giving birth, and then Vivian’s (Louise Sorel) crashing the reading of the will.”

You can follow along with the live updated list of all the winners from tonight’s WGA ceremonies here.

Michael Fairman TV will have more on DAYS WGA Award win as it becomes available.

So, what do you think of Days of our Lives winning the WGA Award writing award for a Daytime Drama series for the fourth year in a row? Comment below.

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Matthew Ashford and Melissa Reeves Talk Return to DAYS for Doug’s Funeral, Susan Seaforth Hayes, and Their Enduring Friendship

Last week, Days of our Lives celebrated the taping of their 15,000th episode which is tentatively scheduled to air on December 3rd. The story will feature emotional and heart-tugging scenes of Doug Williams funeral and honor his portrayer, the beloved Bill Hayes, who passed away on January 12th at the age of 98.

While the actors, producers, and crew took a lunch time break to pose for some pictures and speak with the press, they knew they would have to get back to taping the funeral, which was going to make it a tough day, but also cathartic for all who loved Bill Hayes.

Several returns have thus far been announced including; Melissa Reeves reprising her signature role of Jennifer Horton (a part she first played in 1985), and Matthew Ashford as Jack Deveraux. Reeves had last appeared on the show back in 2021, and she was replaced by Emmy-winner Cady McClain in her absence when Jennifer was in storylines. In real-life, Melissa had moved full-time to Tennessee along with her husband, Scott Reeves (ex-DAYS, GH, Y&R). Now, and as previously reported, Reeves will first appear back on DAYS for the Thanksgiving episodes with the Hortons.

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Michael Fairman TV caught up with Matt and Melissa during the 15,000th episode celebration to get their take on: being back for these special episodes, how it has been working with and watching Susan Seaforth Hayes portray Julie’s grief over losing Doug, and how they have supported each other through the years. Check out what they shared below.

Melissa, you are back on the set of Days of our Lives for this very emotional and special moment in the series history. How does it feel?

MELISSA: Oh, my goodness. I am honored. I wouldn’t want to be anywhere else but to be here for Bill. He was like my real-life dance partner. He taught me how to ballroom dance. And to be here for Susan, of course, who’s just been our sweet hero this whole week. We’re just following her lead. She’s just been this incredibly strong example for us in the midst of this trial and season of her life. She is like just lifting us all up with her. It’s been incredible.

I was at Bill Hayes memorial service which was truly incredible and I know at the time you were in Tennessee. It was moving and celebratory of his life, all at the same time.

MELISSA: That’s all I have heard. I have to watch it on You Tube. They said it was just a real celebration of his life and I love that.

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This must be difficult for Susan Seaforth Hayes depicting the death of Doug, when she is still grieving the loss of her beloved husband. (Susan pictured above with the returning Stephen Schnetzer who plays her on-screen brother, Steve Olson).

MELISSA: I’m sure Susan has those moments at home by herself, but she’s so good at being a leader and leading all of us. We’re following her, you know, and she’s like, “This is how I want to feel today.” And we’re just going along with her, you know? It’s so sweet.

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How is it to see Matt Ashford again live and in-person?

MELISSA: You know, Matt and I can go years without talking, or seeing each other, and then the minute we see each other we’re chatting away.

MATT: Melissa was out on set doing a scene yesterday on the phone talking to a stage manager; as she was telling some really tough news on the phone. I’m like crying in the background, literally, I’m off-stage crying.

MELISSA: And then we get like back into normal life, and we’re like, okay, “What’s happening? What’s happening with this … or what’s happening with that?”

I had read, Melissa, that you were in touch with Matt about if there night be a possibility for you to reprise your role as Jennifer for these special episodes?

MELISSA: Yes. Well, Matt was like, “Hey! Would you want to come back? “And I was like, “Matt, you know, I would always come back. ”

MATT:  Every time I come here to Days of our Lives, they ask, “Where’s Missy? How’s Missy?” Everybody backstage says, “I miss her.” All of the crew is asking about her and saying, “It would be nice to see Missy. Nothing wrong with you Matt, but …”  They said, “Where is she?” I said, “She wants to come!”

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There are some beautiful photos of Missy and Bill and Susan thorough the years that I found. It just reminded me of just the deep and entrenched history we all have had with the show, personally and professionally.

MATT: Missy is roughly the age where Francis Reid (ex-Alice Horton) was when she started the show, which is just crazy.

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I’ve always said Missy was going to be the next generation Alice. Do you feel that Jennifer is the heir apparent matriarch of the Horton family?

MELISSA: Yes. I mean, this has been greatest blessing of my life, and that would be great. I told Ken Corday (executive producer, Days of our Lives) when I was 17 that this show would be my life. Ken always told me, “This is your home,” and I’ve always felt like that.

How have gotten through the scenes watching Susan Seaforth Hayes as Julie go through the loss of Doug?

MATT: Susan is bringing her best performance life for her and Bill. I mean, she’s a showbiz baby. She always has been one hundred percent, and she’s doing it for him, and this is who they’ve always been. So, you’re seeing this amazing performance colored by her life. She has her private life as Susan, but she has enough plugged into Julie that she’s done amazing work. The director, producers and writers are giving her room to live in these moments and it’s quite wonderful.

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Have you already broken down in tears during the taping?

MELISSA: Yesterday, but today’s taping of the actual funeral I think they want us to try and be just more celebratory.

MATT: I mean, it is a beautiful long life for Bill Hayes and his character of Doug Williams, and so it will be about that. Then, you get a bunch of us together in the church pews, and there’s going to be hijinks.

MELISSA: We all have been through the waves of grief. You have that awful cry and then all of a sudden you feel okay.  There are those family situations we are portraying where you’re like, “What do we do? What do we do now? You know, no one knows what to do. But, it’s so sweet. I’m looking forward to seeing how the scenes all turn out.

So, are you glad that Matt and Melissa are back for the 15K episode and Doug’s funeral? From what we can tell, it’s going to be quite an emotional journey for Days of our Lives fans, and especially the performance of Susan Seaforth Hayes, 

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Ron Carlivati Talks on Decision to Make Days of our Lives 15000th Episode About Doug’s Funeral, and Previews Chances for WGA Award

This week, Days of our Lives celebrated the taping of their 15,000th episode. In of it itself, that is an incredible accomplishment for the long-running soap opera currently streaming on Peacock.

However, this on set gathering was a bit different. Though the show is celebrating their achievement, they are also in the middle of taping scenes surrounding the death and the funeral of Doug Williams, played by the late Bill Hayes, who passed away on January 12th of this year at the age of 98.

As previously revealed many longtime favorites are back to honor Bill and the character of Doug including: Gloria Loring (Liz), Melissa Reeves (Jennifer), Matthew Ashford (Jack), Maree Cheatham (Marie), Victoria Konefal (Ciara) and Stephen Schnetzer (Steve) to name but a few.

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Michael Fairman TV was in attendance and spoke with Days of our Lives head writer, Ron Carlivati to gain some insight into how the 15,000 episode was crafted and the decision to honor the character of Doug Williams and Bill Hayes as its epicenter. In addition, Ron weighed-in on this Sunday’s April 14th WGA (Writers Guild of America) Awards, where he and his writing team are facing off with General Hospital for the daytime drama prize. Here’s what Ron shared below.

Was this your idea to make the 15,000th episode centered around Doug’s funeral and passing?

RON: It was. When you’re looking at it, and laying out the calendar for the whole year and you see 15,000 is coming up, we’re like, “What are we going to do?” And then, we got the news that Bill had passed away and something kind of clicked. I was like, “We should honor Doug on that show.” So then, we started to kind of build around that … when does he pass away? How does he pass away? Who could come back? You know, it’s a lot.  I’m very pleased with the returns that we got as there’s so much that you could do. We wanted everybody we could get. So, we put together a wish list and Janet Drucker (co-executive producer, Days of our Lives) made it happen.

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You have Melissa Reeves back as Jennifer, when the role was last played by Cady McClain. What has it meant to have Missy back for these shows?

RON: It was so nice to see Missy Reeves. I think Cady has done such a good job, but on the 15,000th episode to see Missy as Jennifer, it’s a big deal. So having her was great, and overall, the milestone was a big undertaking, because you want to live up to it. You want the 15,000th episode to be good. Now, it has a lot of real emotion that you’re playing. because for the cast and the crew they’re honoring Bill Hayes just as much as we’re honoring Doug Williams.

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Was it hard for you and the team to write this episode?

RON: Yes. I’ll tell you why it was hard to write.  When I wrote, for example, Asa’s (Phillip Carey) death on One Life to Live or Victor’s (John Aniston) on DAYS, Asa is a different type of character. Like, you could have characters going, “Oh! I’m glad he is dead.” You could have different points of view, but with Doug, you’re not having that. Every person loves this man. No one had a bad relationship with him. So, you’re challenge as a writer is how do you make it that not everybody’s saying the same thing and doing the same thing. And so, we tried to find ways to make the episode about all the familial relationships and yet, how do you make it about Doug and yet broaden the scope.

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I had spoken to Susan Seaforth Hayes (Julie), a week after Bill’s memorial, for an interview. She said that she felt very fortunate that you did include her on discussions of how you would tackle Doug’s passing. How did that conversation go?

RON: First, I attended Bill’s funeral, which was incredible. I said to so many people it was an emotional service, but it was hard to be sad at this. The guy had an incredible life and it was an incredible celebration. And so, you’re sitting there watching this knowing that you now have to write something similar. And how do you write something that lives up to what you just witnessed? I wanted to talk to Susan to get her thoughts about, you know, how much do you want this to be about keeping Bill separate from Doug. How comfortable are you sharing your grief. She was incredible to talk to. It was a great chat.

You’re in the middle of taping these major scenes for the 15,000 episode to air in December. How do you think it’s going? Have you seen any of the scenes?

RON:  I haven’t seeing anything. I mean, we were still making changes to the script up till this morning!

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The Writers Guild Awards are this Sunday, April 14th and once again this year there are two daytime drama nominees, General Hospital and Days of our Lives. How are you feeling about your chances this year?

RON: It is often just GH and us in the category. I’ve won three years in a row, so I’m kind of feeling like it’s their turn.

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What episodes did you submit for contention? If I recall, they had to do with Victor’s memorial.

RON: The episodes we submitted were centered around Victor’s funeral. I think one has story with Vivian (Louise Sorel). We had some fun stuff, we had some emotional stuff at Victor’s death, and I am pretty sure that our submission was three episodes right around that time.

Did you make the decision to go with those episodes because there was a mix of humor and drama?

RON: I like to have some humor, but it was also the funeral, then there’s Sarah (Linsey Godfrey) giving birth, and then Vivian’s crashing the reading of the will. So, we had a lot of fun and it’s hard sometimes to pick three that tell a story, as opposed to submitting for the Daytime Emmys, where the writing team only submits two shows. So, we shall see how it goes on Sunday.

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So, are you looking forward to the emotional 15,000th episode of Days of our Lives? Do you think DAYS will take home the WGA writing award for daytime dramas for the 4th year in a row? Comment below.

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