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The Katherine Kelly Lang Interview – The Bold and the Beautiful

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As fans of The Bold and the Beautiful witnessed in September, Brooke and Ridge got married … again!  But this time there was a twist, and it didn’t happen in front of the camera, it happened behind-the-scenes.  Ronn Moss’ unexpected and seemingly sudden decision to leave his role as Ridge Forrester after 25 years, made these on-air nuptials all the more meaningful and shocking.  And, for series star Katherine Kelly Lang (Brooke) it meant an end of a huge chapter for her – both on-screen and in the workplace – having to say goodbye to her long-time scene partner and friend.  But with that news, came more! Katherine also learned another one of the original “core four” cast members of the CBS soap will depart the series too, when Susan Flannery (Stephanie) announced her plans to exit come the end of this year.

However, through all the changes, Katherine signed on the dotted line with B&B to continue giving fans worldwide an opportunity to see more of Brooke’s perils and experiences, and the new possibilities for her character.  On-Air On-Soaps sat down with Katherine to get her thoughts on all the upheaval, to give us some insight into what’s next for Brooke, how she handled her final tape day with Ronn Moss, and what she wants her fans, who have stayed with the love story of Bridge for 25 years, to know.

While B&B’s executive producer and head writer, Brad Bell, has teased a new love interest for Brooke, we wanted to know how Lang felt about it so soon after the Bridge “I do’s,” and you will find out her answer!  We also delve into Katherine’s remarkable success with the series, and why Brooke has become so beloved internationally, even though she has done some pretty questionable things in her past, or shall we say unknowing mistakes?  Whatever the case, one thing can be said: Let’s get this talented and beautiful star her long overdue Daytime Emmy nomination soon!   And with that, here is the effervescent Katherine Kelly Lang!

MICHAEL:

Last month, we saw your final episode with Ronn Moss, when Brooke and Ridge got married once again in front of family and friends.  Those tears streaming down your face when you looked at Ronn were so touching and heartbreaking, all at the same time.  I heard from Ronn and Brad Bell, how emotional that day was.  How was it for you?  And, how did you get through it?

KATHERINE:

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I did not want to go to work that day, and I was dreading it.  It was hard to believe, and it’s still hard to believe, that Ronn is not here.  And that was the last day tape, and we were supposed to be getting married on-screen and being happy about it.  But meanwhile, Ronn and I tried that whole day to avoid each other while saying to each other, “Let’s just do our job and get through this!”  I remember when I walked down the aisle and I really had to look at him and engage, and then it was over.  I just stood in front of him, and we just couldn’t look at each other before that, because we knew what would happen and we would both fall apart.  But we just waited.  Then even in rehearsal, I had to take a moment because I started crying, and then we went back and we taped it.  And of course, I was crying when we taped.  But, you can cry at your own wedding! (Laughs)  But I tried to make it happy tears, even when everybody who watches the show knows he is leaving!  It was a very emotional day, and sad, and it was hard.

MICHAEL:

When we all learned of Ronn’s decision’s to exit the series, I was concerned for you and how you would take the news of his departure.

KATHERINE:

It was weird.   It felt lonely, and like a family breaking up after all this time.  I feel like Ronn was definitely a part of my family, and then he’s gone.  Working so closely together for 25 years, he was Brooke’ soul mate!  Ronn and I have a great friendship and that will continue, but it’s just sad not to see him here.

MICHAEL:

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As I told Ronn, I think it would be a lot worse to have made the announcement he did and then sticking around at B&B for months longer.  So in that way, perhaps a quick exit was better.  It may have made it unbearable, otherwise.

KATHERINE:

It would be worse for him, and maybe a little bit easier for all of us to get used to the idea, but harder for him to stay.  Once you make up your mind and make a decision, you just want to do it.  It worked out the way it was suppose to.  Change happens … it’s a part of life.  We will just make the best of it, and the shows goes on.

MICHAEL:

Katherine, you are now the backbone of the show as Brooke.  Do you feel more of the weight on your shoulders with the exits of Ronn, and then coming up, Susan Flannery (Stephanie)?

KATHERINE:

No.  I don’t feel the weight on my shoulders, but I do feel it will definitely be different. John McCook (Eric) and I will be the original people here, and Hunter Tylo (Taylor) has been here a long time too … but it will still be different.  The whole feeling about the show in general has already changed, and that is great because the young group we have on the show are fabulous.

MICHAEL:

What did you think when you heard that Susan Flannery was also leaving?

KATHERINE:

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Oh, my Gosh!  Double whammy!  Susan has been saying for years she is going to go.  And I would say, “Susan come on!”  Now she was like, “No. I am leaving!”  So it’s taken some years for that to happen, but it’s sad.  I just have to make a point to see her and Ronn outside the studio.

MICHAEL:

Susan and Ronn were your scene-partners, your touchstones, in which so many stories were generated through Brooke’s relationships with Stephanie and Ridge.  So, it will be quite an adjustment for both Katherine and Brooke.

KATHERINE:

Actually, this past year I have more scenes with Kim Matula (Hope) as my daughter, and what she was going through, and Brooke looking out for her.  So there has already been a transition of my scene partners.  It’s just the history that was there, and all the memories that will be really missed.

MICHAEL:

Do you have a Brooke and Ridge moment that is closest, or special to you, in your heart? Clearly, it couldn’t be the way the relationship just ended so abruptly …  over a text message debacle! (Laughs)

KATHERINE:

(Laughs) I don’t know if the fans love a particular moment, but we could be anywhere, in our bedroom, in the office, or on the beach, and what they like is that chemistry and that spark that is so sincere, and so honest.  It’s just real, fun, and sweet.  They appreciate that.  They have always been diehard fans, because they think it’s so romantic, and so real at the same time, and that is how easy Ronn is to work with.  Ronn is very accessible.  I could look into his eyes and there is a connection there.  He made it so easy and comfortable.  Brooke and Ridge had a great relationship.  So that is all very special to me.

MICHAEL:

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I saw your tweet in your initial shocked reaction to Ronn’s departure.  Did you know at all what was going on with him, and that he may leave?

KATHERINE:

We kind of knew what was going on … but I was still shocked!  I was shocked that it was all happening the way it was happening.  It’s not something you picture happening, and it happened, and so it was shocking!  You know, we probably all thought we would be here together and be one big happy family forever.  Then when it starts changing, it was like, “This can’t be happening, but it is, and it’s OK.”

MICHAEL:

Brad Bell has teased a new love interest for Brooke.  In new episodes, she is going to be helping Bill locate an MIA Katie, leading many fans to speculate that perhaps Brooke and Bill might be a romantic pair down the road.   How do you feel about having another love interest, no matter who it might be?

KATHERINE:

My question to that is why?  Why does it always have to be about a man?  I would like Brooke to have her own story about something.  There is no way, after being with the man she loves for 25 years, she is just going to fall in love and have sex.  I think it’s just weird.  I am just hoping whatever it is, it doesn’t happen that fast!  I hope it takes time to develop.  I was on the set and I was flirting with Adam Gregory (Thomas) today!  And Adam and I do that and pretend, because of the Berry storyline, and so we were doing that today! (Laughs)  Maybe things could happen there, I don’t know.  But again, I ask, why another man?

MICHAEL:

Jon Hensley is working on the show in a recurring capacity right now as Dr. Meade.  What would you think of a Hensley/Lang pairing on-screen?  I think it would be kind of “hot”!

KATHERINE:

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Jon Hensley is fabulous.  He is handsome, sexy, and talented and that manly character that would fit in well with this show.  I can see Brooke with him!  Jon is a sweetheart and I like him a lot.  To work with him would be fabulous.

MICHAEL:

Katherine, amidst all the contract talks with three of the core four members of B&B, you decided to re-up and sign a new contract that has been reported to be for two years.  Was deciding to stay, after all the turmoil behind-the-scenes, a difficult decision for you?

KATHERINE:

I love this show and I love being here, but it was at the moment a little difficult.  I am like, “Wait! Don’t leave!”   The show allows you time to do other things and have a life, and so my thing is I want to do both.  Our new schedule gives us freedom and time where we can sort of plan to do things, sort of.

MICHAEL:

The Hope/Liam/Steffy triangle had gotten so much airtime this past year, while many legacy characters were back-burnered.  What do you think about that?

KATHERINE:

I have done so much for so many years that it was kind of nice.  I liked what my character was doing.  She was being a mom and really caring for someone else other than herself for a change.  So that was fine, and also other people then had a chance on this show, and a chance to develop their storylines for those characters that are sticking around, and to build the next generation.  So it makes sense, until I read one too many comments that people wanted to see a story that involved other people as well.  Then I thought maybe the fans have a point.  And now I can say it’s coming back around to that, which is good.  It’s just involving different kinds of stories that incorporates everybody.

MICHAEL

On to an outside project:  You just completed working on the production of Crystal Chappell’s (Dani, B&B, Gina, Venice) upcoming new web series, The Grove!

KATHERINE:

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I loved working on The Grove and being a part of it.  I was there behind-the-scenes as an associate producer on the show.  I worked with Crystal Chappell on some location scouting, and trying to hook her up with the right people.  It was doing whatever needed to be done, and then being on set, and on script, and watching the monitors to see if the shots were blurry and framed right, and checking on the booms.  We had three monitors set up, because we were shooting three different cameras.  It was fun to be a part of that process, and Susan Flannery was directing.  It kind of felt like being at B&B!  I did not want to act in it.  I wanted to get into the producing side of it.  It is something that I could learn.  My step-dad is also a producer, so I have seen him through the years do what he does.  It was kind of nice doing that, and being more on that side of the business, and not having to memorize lines and be in front of the camera!

MICHAEL:

How did the shoot for The Grove ultimately go?

KATHERINE:

Actually, the shoot for The Grove went amazing!  Crystal is amazing and a great businesswomen and such a creative person … and too is Hillary B. Smith (Ex-Nora, OLTL, Stacy, B&B, Venice, Fumbling Thru The Pieces).  These are very talented people that were involved in it.  I was very happy to be a part of it.  I would love to do more of that.

MICHAEL:

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What you do know of your upcoming “story” on B&B?  What can you tell us?

KATHERINE:

I know my story to an extent.  I have an idea of what is happening and the basic story.  And yes, it will be with people that I am very excited to work with.  I think there will be some major drama ahead.

MICHAEL:

Sounds very encouraging!  Then can we pick your Emmy reel with this new material?  I am determined to get you an Emmy nomination!

KATHERINE:

Yeah! (Laughs)  Someone jokingly in the B&B office said, “Oh, Katherine will win sometime. There are only four shows left!” (Laughs)   But that cracked me up!  It’s kind of good motto to go by!  Even if I don’t win then it’s O.K.  Look to me, it’s about working and people enjoying your character, and me being happy with the job that I do and what I put into it.  There are so many actors, both men and women, who have not won a Daytime Emmy through the years that deserve them.  It’s just that I have been on a lot and so long, and have not gotten nominated. (Laughs)  But honestly, there is no animosity there.

MICHAEL:

You have to admit, there has been more behind-the-scenes drama on the soaps over the past year, that it has become much more interesting to fans than what is airing on the shows themselves!

KATHERINE:

I have always said, real life in general is a lot crazier then what goes on in the soap operas.  Some people don’t believe that! (Laughs)

MICHAEL:

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In my recent interview with Ronn Moss, he thought the future of the soaps would not be on network television, but on the Internet.   How do you see the future of the daytime drama?

KATHERINE:

I am concerned about the future of network television. There is too much money involved in network TV. And as far as what Ronn was saying in regards to web series, and having just working on recently, you see the quality you can do now for a lot less money, and everybody’s heart is still in it.  There are going to be people flocking to do web shows … and they already are!

MICHAEL:

Katherine, all over the world you are on magazine cover after magazine cover.  You have become so iconic and synonymous with B&B globally, and a fan-favorite here domestically, as well.  You have to pinch yourself on all this!  What is like to be you?  Is this the dream you had?  Did you want to be that actress who was on all the covers?

KATHERINE:

I wanted to be a movie actress, not a TV actress.  I kind of looked down on all TV, not just soap operas.  I really wanted to just do movies, and stick with that career path and see what happens.  But, you have to make a living also.  Now seeing the career that I have had?  It’s pretty amazing.  I have to say, “Wow.”   I will give myself a pat on the back for that one.  It’s pretty good that you took the job and you stayed there, and you did what you did with the character, and it became what it has.  And … B&B is one of the biggest shows in the world!

MICHAEL:

And might I add, Brooke is beloved!  She can do all those ridiculous things or missteps, and still is adored by the fans!  The audience of this show cares about Brooke.  So whatever it is you have done storyline-wise, fans worldwide have come to love and care about her, I would say, more than any other character on B&B.

KATHERINE:

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I am kind of that way as a person.  I try to be really positive and not put out any negativity, and put that out in my own life. You then in return, get so much more back and more happiness.  People gravitate to that and so appreciate that.  They so look to you for that kind of energy, whether it be through your character, or as a person.  I see that a lot now because of Twitter.  It still is amazing to me that kind of social network outlet is there.  I get so many comments or tweets from fans.  I love how you can have so many conversations with people around the world, all the time, and anytime of day.

MICHAEL:

What do your fans and followers tweet to you the most?

KATHERINE:

They all say they love the show, Brooke, or Bridge.  But, they appreciate me for who I am and the work that I do, and that makes me feel really good.  It’s not just about the work.  It’s about what you do for others, and that you mean it.

MICHAEL:

Do you see yourself at some point exiting B&B, as your co-stars just recently did?

KATHERINE:

I can at some point, but it could be who knows how long?  It could be many, many years down the line.  It is hard for me to look too far in the future to assess things.  As of now, I see myself at B&B for a long time, as well as incorporating other things in my life.

MICHAEL:

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You appeared on the season three premiere of the CBS daytime talk The Talk.  And, with the panel of co-hosts, along with Y&R’s Michelle Stafford (Phyllis) and Melody Thomas Scott (Nikki) you were on the air with no make-up!  Knowing you as I do, I don’t think that was a big deal for you.   How was it?

KATHERINE:

It was great and a lot of fun.  I have never been in a room with that many women wearing no make-up.  And the audience had no make-up on and all wore the same robes we were wearing on the panel.  You never go to a function, or even a spa, and see that!  Even in a spa, women still have their make-up on! (Laughs)  At The Talk, all the women on the panel and everyone in the audience looked beautiful!  And, you can really look at them and talk to them for who they are.  Sometimes it’s weird.  Make-up does give you a bit of a mask and a bit of a cover up.  You may not really see who that person is then for who they are inside.  Actually, I feel more comfortable without make-up.

MICHAEL:

You have always been this natural and outdoorsy beauty.  You never wear a lot of make-up.   So how do you feel when you have to get made-up?

KATHERINE:

I have been really made-up on the red carpet for the Emmys, but it goes with the whole look.  You have too!  I mean, can you imagine?  No make-up and you are wearing this gown?  (Laughs)  It just doesn’t really go together, and your face will just get lost.  So you have to kind of go with the whole look.  There have been times where I have gone to events, not a red carpet, where I just don’t feel like wearing make-up.  Then I go and kind of regret it.  I feel so out of place, because everyone there is so “done”.  So, it can be sort of awkward sometimes.  But in my real life, I just don’t wear make- up.  I like to be more down to earth and natural.

MICHAEL:

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Before we end our conversation, what would you want to say to the fans of Bridge, who rooted and stood by this couple for years and are having a tough time with the departure of Ronn Moss?  And, what that in turn means for you on-air?

KATHERINE:

I don’t know what to say to make them feel better, because I know most of them are very upset.  But, I can say that I think the Brooke and Ridge wedding was great, even though how sad it was that day to tape, but in the end, as I said, I think it was a really nice wedding.  I think the fans will be in tears over it whenever they see it.  Somewhere in the back of my mind, just like Brooke thinks, I think Ridge/Ronn will be back!  I just don’t want to believe it!  So somewhere deep down inside, I am hoping he will be back.

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Great interview! KKL is B&B. I love Brooke, she is my fave character on the show. But I did not like Bridge. I wanted Nick and Brooke to be together!

I agree. Bricky always was the only real couple for me- one of the best in daytime, IMO.

Bricky was HOT. JW and KKL have SO much chemistry, the best couple on B&B ever for me. And on Daytime, other than DAYS’s E.J. and Sami.

I miss them so much and spend tons of time on Youtube, watching old Bricky clips.

Now I currently root for Bill and Katie. Team Logan all the way.

I also agree, Brooke and Ridge WERE the show..up and down, in and out..and just had that SPARK! She is an amazing actress, at a point cried too much..but she is just so emotional. I can relate!
Go Logans! I love them..more REAL people.

Mr. Fairman,

I really do enjoy the interviews you do with different cast members from the Bold and The Beautiful. You do a great job in asking the right questions us fans of the show want to know. I have a problem with this particular interview you did with Mrs. Lang (Brooke Logan). Brooke does have fans around the world, but everyone who watches the show is not a fan of Brooke Logan. In this interview, I was under the impression (from your questions) that the entire audience loves Brooke. As a long time viewer of B&B Brooke Logan was the character I hated. Brooke has done so much to her family, especially her daughters, she has cheated, manipulated, scheme, and has done so much only to please herself. I personally don’t see how anyone with a conscience and a soul could favor this character. Mr. Fairman, I ask that if you could please in refering to the audience indicate the Brooke’s fans.. or some of the fans that watch the show.. would be great. Because everyone is not a fan of Brooke Logan.

I agree! This show has become a Logan Fest and not everyone is a fan of Brooke. We’ve been begging for more Forrester and less Logan! Give Eric, Thorne, Taylor, Thomas and Steffy something to bite into besides being the props for the Logans. I love this interview. I am also a very long time B&B fan. We need more fashion and not based on a virgin teenage who cannot get married in 1 year.

“I personally don’t see how anyone with a conscience and a soul could favor this character.”

-WOW! First of all, it’s a soap and everyone is entitled to like whoever. It’s subjective. Brooke is a FICTIONAL character. Questioning REAL people’s “morals” or “conscience” or “soul” for their personal preferences is very extreme, to say the least. It says a lot more about you as a person than those that you’re accusing.

Second, how about being a bit more forgiving, being more compassionate and less judgmental? Doesn’t your religion teach you that (assuming that you’re a christian)? If only people actually practiced what they preached the world would be a much better and more beautiful place. I’ll never understand the desire to blindly hate and the need to always feel morally superior towards others.

Anyway if you want to continue despising Brooke for her past mistakes, whatever, that’s your business. But attacking other fans for liking Brooke (and forgiving her, which the characters wronged by Brooke have also done and moved on) is a big no in my book.

I concur with the above comment. Brooke Logan is not beloved by everyone. In fact she has a big following who hate the character. I also would like to address where you said that KKL was the series star. I dont think she is and there are many who agree with me. She is one of a number of outstanding stars on B&B but not “THE” series star. A lot of us were happy to see Ronn go & Bridge die as we hated Bridge but we would have preferred KKL left to Ronn.. Tridge was the true couple. And as for Jon Hensley, KKL already squashed this as there was no chemistry. KKL has been running this show for quite some time now with her fits in & out of Bradley Bell’s office so of course Brooke will have a new man in no time. And I am quite sure that KKL did a happy dance when Ronn was leaving and then Susan. What an early Christmas present so she could be front and center. If I were you, I would do some real digging to get the real facts and not only what KKL wants you to know. And just for legal sake I will say allegedly.

Oh PLEASE! As if KKL needs SF and RM to leave to be front and center :-)! Brooke has been a HUGE part of B&B since day 1 and continues to be.

As for Tridge being the true couple? That is HILARIOUS!

Go KKL! Go Brooke!

What a load of tosh, tridge…really…oh come on.. ridge and brooke they went better together, I never really saw what they saw in him, but i liked taylor even less, she is so false, I loved brooke.

OMG what show is this moron watching? KKL and her fits? I think you are mistaken as it is Hunter tylo who is known for her hissy fits and law suits…blah!

what a nasty thing to say, kkk is not the character brooke is y would she b happy that two of her closet friends r leaving. She has sept 25yrs with these 2 people and togather they have produce some priceless storylines. Wow! it’s so sad that we speak so badly about people who have entertain us for years, who took a character and protrays her so well that we can geninuely hate not the character but the actress. KKK has being on the front burner from day one, she has made the show interesting, if Brooke did not exist then what would we have to write and talk about

Oh please! A bunch of delusional whore lovers. I never watched the show to see what the whore would do next. I enjoyed the Forresters and the fashion. Not the whoring around of one Brooke Lowgan & art seems to imitate KKL’s real life. Are you people all inside of a box and don’t read what is and has been happening? KKL has taken over this show & its been going downhill ever since. READ PEOPLE READ!!! As I have said many times before, a person that enjoys a good whore or even a bad one is most likely one themselves. All people can’t be good & moral like Hunter Tylo or Taylor for that matter. Now go make that money!

Michael

Another brilliant interview!!! You really are good at this!!!!

And Kelly was so great with her answers. I’m soooooo ready to see what B&B is going to do with Brooke.

Thanks for sharing!!!!

Michael:
You are brilliant at what you do. You ask the questions we all want to know. I’ve always been a huge Brooke fan! She is the show! Love reading your interviews. Thanks 🙂
xo
R

how much and beautiful Brooke you can tell me something more of his/her private life and if with ridge it will always be all Ridge

For me Brook and Ridge were the show, will definately miss Ridge and Stephanie also, have been watching since day 1 and will continue to do so…Love B&B…

I like Brooke , KKL is a great actress. But thank your for interview .

Does Jack Wagner need a job so bad he would go back when he was not even given an exit story as for the character of Brooke , sorry Ms. Lange your only storyline for 25 years has been laying on your back. Why would anything change. And for those of you who get all hysteric over the comments I am talking of the character I could care less about the actors temper tantrums off the set.

That is Lang not Lange sorry for the misspelling of the name.

I think that a slow start up of a cougar storyline of Thomas and Brooke is worth looking into. Why? Berry-boink island. The storyline was never explored as it should’ve been because his dad was still alive and Brooke was loyal to Ridge. Also, Thomas wouldn’t have done anything while his dad was alive. Yet, there are feelings on Thomas’s side and who BETTER THAN BROOKE to guide Thomas on his way? The “Brooke’ character has guided the lives of the men of Forrester since day 1 for better or worse but they all learn something and are enriched by their involvement with her.

Just my 2 cents. If the Brooke character were to remain true to form – she would go with Thomas. He’s the closest to Ridge she has. He’s the new CEO of the company. Its a total match for a storyline.

Thank you for this interview. It was the longest and most intense look at the “Brooke” character.

LOVE KKL…so down to earth and sweet!

a 50 something actress flirting w/ a 20 something actor who’s abt to be a father. shaking my head.

Kelly and Susan have always been the heart of this show. Great interview. Kelly’s honest and down to earth. I was a Bridge fan until they brought in JW, and I became a Bricky fan. I just hope that with Ronn gone Bell doesn’t trash Brooke.

First of all let me tell you I love the show and of course all of themembers but liek the way you and Steohanie have become friends its super. I always knew tha tyoua nd Ridge belonged together but he needs to come back at the farwell party of him mothe5 and at th end of the episode they both should hold hands and embrace just give me another day to cry as I will miss them bothe. Please the rest of you’ll stay.
Gods Blessings to all of you.
Happy retirement Stephanie
Ridge one more appearance please.

Rita

Hope Kelly tries to get her friend Ron back for one episode of the party. It will really look bad if Ron Moss is not there. I think he will also regret and B&B, Mr. Bell will regret not getting him back to send Susan off the right way for the fans sake! It will not make any sense to bring someone else in or no have ridge there at all. That would be just wrong! Please Kelly if you are reading this, try to make it happen. You all are the core 4 that have been there from the beginning and Ridge is the closes to his mother (stephanie). Help the fans please!

I love KKL. Brooke & Ridge were the show for me and I’ve watched since day 1. As for Brooke & Thomas….just no!

I absolutely love KKL! She is just beautiful. I love her and Ridge together, but I actually preferred Brooke with Nick (Jack Wagner). Those two had hot, beautiful chemistry! It will be interesting to see what Bell has in store for Brooke now. KKK, PLEASE STAY!

Thank you so much for this interview, Michael. Yes, there is still a bitter divide between the Bridge and Tridge fans, but Brooke is my girl and KKL is absolutely wonderfully down-to-earth that it’s disarming. Wonderful interview; it is obvious that you enjoy the show as much as any other fan and that is great to have in an interviewer.

I already know that she and Ronn Moss (ex-Ridge) have a strong relationship offscreen. They have been working together for over 25 years. Plus, they have a connection to the other 3 actors John McCook (Eric), Hunter Tylo (Taylor), and Susan Flannery (ex-Stephanie).

Days Of Our Lives

Matthew Ashford and Melissa Reeves Talk Return to DAYS for Doug’s Funeral, Susan Seaforth Hayes, and Their Enduring Friendship

Last week, Days of our Lives celebrated the taping of their 15,000th episode which is tentatively scheduled to air on December 3rd. The story will feature emotional and heart-tugging scenes of Doug Williams funeral and honor his portrayer, the beloved Bill Hayes, who passed away on January 12th at the age of 98.

While the actors, producers, and crew took a lunch time break to pose for some pictures and speak with the press, they knew they would have to get back to taping the funeral, which was going to make it a tough day, but also cathartic for all who loved Bill Hayes.

Several returns have thus far been announced including; Melissa Reeves reprising her signature role of Jennifer Horton (a part she first played in 1985), and Matthew Ashford as Jack Deveraux. Reeves had last appeared on the show back in 2021, and she was replaced by Emmy-winner Cady McClain in her absence when Jennifer was in storylines. In real-life, Melissa had moved full-time to Tennessee along with her husband, Scott Reeves (ex-DAYS, GH, Y&R). Now, and as previously reported, Reeves will first appear back on DAYS for the Thanksgiving episodes with the Hortons.

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Michael Fairman TV caught up with Matt and Melissa during the 15,000th episode celebration to get their take on: being back for these special episodes, how it has been working with and watching Susan Seaforth Hayes portray Julie’s grief over losing Doug, and how they have supported each other through the years. Check out what they shared below.

Melissa, you are back on the set of Days of our Lives for this very emotional and special moment in the series history. How does it feel?

MELISSA: Oh, my goodness. I am honored. I wouldn’t want to be anywhere else but to be here for Bill. He was like my real-life dance partner. He taught me how to ballroom dance. And to be here for Susan, of course, who’s just been our sweet hero this whole week. We’re just following her lead. She’s just been this incredibly strong example for us in the midst of this trial and season of her life. She is like just lifting us all up with her. It’s been incredible.

I was at Bill Hayes memorial service which was truly incredible and I know at the time you were in Tennessee. It was moving and celebratory of his life, all at the same time.

MELISSA: That’s all I have heard. I have to watch it on You Tube. They said it was just a real celebration of his life and I love that.

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This must be difficult for Susan Seaforth Hayes depicting the death of Doug, when she is still grieving the loss of her beloved husband. (Susan pictured above with the returning Stephen Schnetzer who plays her on-screen brother, Steve Olson).

MELISSA: I’m sure Susan has those moments at home by herself, but she’s so good at being a leader and leading all of us. We’re following her, you know, and she’s like, “This is how I want to feel today.” And we’re just going along with her, you know? It’s so sweet.

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How is it to see Matt Ashford again live and in-person?

MELISSA: You know, Matt and I can go years without talking, or seeing each other, and then the minute we see each other we’re chatting away.

MATT: Melissa was out on set doing a scene yesterday on the phone talking to a stage manager; as she was telling some really tough news on the phone. I’m like crying in the background, literally, I’m off-stage crying.

MELISSA: And then we get like back into normal life, and we’re like, okay, “What’s happening? What’s happening with this … or what’s happening with that?”

I had read, Melissa, that you were in touch with Matt about if there night be a possibility for you to reprise your role as Jennifer for these special episodes?

MELISSA: Yes. Well, Matt was like, “Hey! Would you want to come back? “And I was like, “Matt, you know, I would always come back. ”

MATT:  Every time I come here to Days of our Lives, they ask, “Where’s Missy? How’s Missy?” Everybody backstage says, “I miss her.” All of the crew is asking about her and saying, “It would be nice to see Missy. Nothing wrong with you Matt, but …”  They said, “Where is she?” I said, “She wants to come!”

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There are some beautiful photos of Missy and Bill and Susan thorough the years that I found. It just reminded me of just the deep and entrenched history we all have had with the show, personally and professionally.

MATT: Missy is roughly the age where Francis Reid (ex-Alice Horton) was when she started the show, which is just crazy.

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I’ve always said Missy was going to be the next generation Alice. Do you feel that Jennifer is the heir apparent matriarch of the Horton family?

MELISSA: Yes. I mean, this has been greatest blessing of my life, and that would be great. I told Ken Corday (executive producer, Days of our Lives) when I was 17 that this show would be my life. Ken always told me, “This is your home,” and I’ve always felt like that.

How have gotten through the scenes watching Susan Seaforth Hayes as Julie go through the loss of Doug?

MATT: Susan is bringing her best performance life for her and Bill. I mean, she’s a showbiz baby. She always has been one hundred percent, and she’s doing it for him, and this is who they’ve always been. So, you’re seeing this amazing performance colored by her life. She has her private life as Susan, but she has enough plugged into Julie that she’s done amazing work. The director, producers and writers are giving her room to live in these moments and it’s quite wonderful.

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Have you already broken down in tears during the taping?

MELISSA: Yesterday, but today’s taping of the actual funeral I think they want us to try and be just more celebratory.

MATT: I mean, it is a beautiful long life for Bill Hayes and his character of Doug Williams, and so it will be about that. Then, you get a bunch of us together in the church pews, and there’s going to be hijinks.

MELISSA: We all have been through the waves of grief. You have that awful cry and then all of a sudden you feel okay.  There are those family situations we are portraying where you’re like, “What do we do? What do we do now? You know, no one knows what to do. But, it’s so sweet. I’m looking forward to seeing how the scenes all turn out.

So, are you glad that Matt and Melissa are back for the 15K episode and Doug’s funeral? From what we can tell, it’s going to be quite an emotional journey for Days of our Lives fans, and especially the performance of Susan Seaforth Hayes, 

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Ron Carlivati Talks on Decision to Make Days of our Lives 15000th Episode About Doug’s Funeral, and Previews Chances for WGA Award

This week, Days of our Lives celebrated the taping of their 15,000th episode. In of it itself, that is an incredible accomplishment for the long-running soap opera currently streaming on Peacock.

However, this on set gathering was a bit different. Though the show is celebrating their achievement, they are also in the middle of taping scenes surrounding the death and the funeral of Doug Williams, played by the late Bill Hayes, who passed away on January 12th of this year at the age of 98.

As previously revealed many longtime favorites are back to honor Bill and the character of Doug including: Gloria Loring (Liz), Melissa Reeves (Jennifer), Matthew Ashford (Jack), Maree Cheatham (Marie), Victoria Konefal (Ciara) and Stephen Schnetzer (Steve) to name but a few.

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Michael Fairman TV was in attendance and spoke with Days of our Lives head writer, Ron Carlivati to gain some insight into how the 15,000 episode was crafted and the decision to honor the character of Doug Williams and Bill Hayes as its epicenter. In addition, Ron weighed-in on this Sunday’s April 14th WGA (Writers Guild of America) Awards, where he and his writing team are facing off with General Hospital for the daytime drama prize. Here’s what Ron shared below.

Was this your idea to make the 15,000th episode centered around Doug’s funeral and passing?

RON: It was. When you’re looking at it, and laying out the calendar for the whole year and you see 15,000 is coming up, we’re like, “What are we going to do?” And then, we got the news that Bill had passed away and something kind of clicked. I was like, “We should honor Doug on that show.” So then, we started to kind of build around that … when does he pass away? How does he pass away? Who could come back? You know, it’s a lot.  I’m very pleased with the returns that we got as there’s so much that you could do. We wanted everybody we could get. So, we put together a wish list and Janet Drucker (co-executive producer, Days of our Lives) made it happen.

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You have Melissa Reeves back as Jennifer, when the role was last played by Cady McClain. What has it meant to have Missy back for these shows?

RON: It was so nice to see Missy Reeves. I think Cady has done such a good job, but on the 15,000th episode to see Missy as Jennifer, it’s a big deal. So having her was great, and overall, the milestone was a big undertaking, because you want to live up to it. You want the 15,000th episode to be good. Now, it has a lot of real emotion that you’re playing. because for the cast and the crew they’re honoring Bill Hayes just as much as we’re honoring Doug Williams.

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Was it hard for you and the team to write this episode?

RON: Yes. I’ll tell you why it was hard to write.  When I wrote, for example, Asa’s (Phillip Carey) death on One Life to Live or Victor’s (John Aniston) on DAYS, Asa is a different type of character. Like, you could have characters going, “Oh! I’m glad he is dead.” You could have different points of view, but with Doug, you’re not having that. Every person loves this man. No one had a bad relationship with him. So, you’re challenge as a writer is how do you make it that not everybody’s saying the same thing and doing the same thing. And so, we tried to find ways to make the episode about all the familial relationships and yet, how do you make it about Doug and yet broaden the scope.

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I had spoken to Susan Seaforth Hayes (Julie), a week after Bill’s memorial, for an interview. She said that she felt very fortunate that you did include her on discussions of how you would tackle Doug’s passing. How did that conversation go?

RON: First, I attended Bill’s funeral, which was incredible. I said to so many people it was an emotional service, but it was hard to be sad at this. The guy had an incredible life and it was an incredible celebration. And so, you’re sitting there watching this knowing that you now have to write something similar. And how do you write something that lives up to what you just witnessed? I wanted to talk to Susan to get her thoughts about, you know, how much do you want this to be about keeping Bill separate from Doug. How comfortable are you sharing your grief. She was incredible to talk to. It was a great chat.

You’re in the middle of taping these major scenes for the 15,000 episode to air in December. How do you think it’s going? Have you seen any of the scenes?

RON:  I haven’t seeing anything. I mean, we were still making changes to the script up till this morning!

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The Writers Guild Awards are this Sunday, April 14th and once again this year there are two daytime drama nominees, General Hospital and Days of our Lives. How are you feeling about your chances this year?

RON: It is often just GH and us in the category. I’ve won three years in a row, so I’m kind of feeling like it’s their turn.

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What episodes did you submit for contention? If I recall, they had to do with Victor’s memorial.

RON: The episodes we submitted were centered around Victor’s funeral. I think one has story with Vivian (Louise Sorel). We had some fun stuff, we had some emotional stuff at Victor’s death, and I am pretty sure that our submission was three episodes right around that time.

Did you make the decision to go with those episodes because there was a mix of humor and drama?

RON: I like to have some humor, but it was also the funeral, then there’s Sarah (Linsey Godfrey) giving birth, and then Vivian’s crashing the reading of the will. So, we had a lot of fun and it’s hard sometimes to pick three that tell a story, as opposed to submitting for the Daytime Emmys, where the writing team only submits two shows. So, we shall see how it goes on Sunday.

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So, are you looking forward to the emotional 15,000th episode of Days of our Lives? Do you think DAYS will take home the WGA writing award for daytime dramas for the 4th year in a row? Comment below.

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(INTERVIEW) Eric Martsolf Previews DAYS Stars on ‘Weakest Link’, How He Fared in the Game, Plus Welcoming New Tate, Leo Howard

Tuesday night on NBC’s Weakest Link (9 p.m. ET/PT), the stars of Days our of Lives test their knowledge, and try to win big money for the charity of their choice on the newest season of the popular game show hosted by Jane Lynch. In case you miss it, you can also catch the episode on Wednesday streaming on Peacock.

The question on everyone’s mind is … who will be revealed as Salem’s weakest link? Who will be left standing at the end of the game? DAYS favorites: Eric Martsolf (Brady) Brynn Dattilo (Lucas), Galen Gering (Rafe), Martha Madison (Belle), Victoria Konefal (ex-Ciara), Zach Tinker (Sonny), Tina Huang (Melinda) and Lindsay Arnold (ex-Allie) play while literally having the task of throwing their co-stars under the bus. The contestant who receives the highest number of votes leaves the game throughout, as Lynch declares their exit with the now iconic phrase, “You are the Weakest Link. Goodbye.” 

Michael Fairman TV caught up with Eric Martsolf, who daytime fans know is great as a host in his own right and oh-so-fun at playing any trivia game you throw at him. Martsolf gave us the inside scoop of what it was like to be on the set and backstage in a rather nerve-wracking environment, and trying to come off as smart while Jane Lynch roasts you at the same time!

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In addition, Eric shared his thoughts on the new Tate, as Leo Howard takes over the role of his on-screen son from Jamie Martin Mann on the April 5th episode of Days of our Lives, plus working with Emily O’Brien as Theresa, and the loss of the legendary Bill Hayes. Check out what Eric had to say below.

Did you know about the game before? Had you watched the original version of the Weakest Link, or this latest incarnation?

ERIC: I was very, very familiar with the game because I found, as someone who enjoys hosting, that has to be one of the best hosting gigs out there because they just have extreme liberties in belittling the contestants, and it’s all done in jest of course, but it’s great. Jane Lynch is a master.

Did you get to meet Jane Lynch before she hit the stage for the taping?

ERIC: I don’t think any of us met her prior to being on the set. So, we’re standing there behind our podiums and these cyber lights just point all in one direction. At one point when we’re out there, it was kind of a hurry up and wait thing. We’re just like, “When is this going to start?” Then, here Jane comes and in all her glory in a beautiful navy-blue suit. She just prances onto stage and just glares over at us, and starts making fun of a silly soap opera actors like you wouldn’t believe. It was just great. I’ll let the public see what how she crucified us. But it was all done in fun.

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Did she crucify you?

ERIC: I don’t think anybody got out unscathed to be honest with you.

For those that don’t know the game, you try to eliminate those that are the weakest in answering questions.

ERIC: Correct, and therein lies the problem. Historically, I think the Weakest Link is comprised of contestants that don’t really know each other, and in this case, you have not only coworkers, but almost family members because we all know each other very, very well. It’s a tight circle and even more so when you’re on the same show. So, we all went in into it pretty nervous because the premise of the game is to expose the inadequacy of people’s knowledge of general facts and information. So, essentially, you’re voting each other off because you don’t think they’re as smart as you are and that they’re the least smart in the group. So, I mean, that in itself is pretty, pretty tough to swallow. It was really hard, because you have to look at your friends in the eye and go, “yeah, I don’t think you’re going to get the next couple questions. You’re not the smartest, you’re not the crispiest chip in the bag. I’m going to let you go. ”

Did you feel bad about some of the eliminations?

ERIC: At one point, without giving away any spoilers, I voted off someone that without a doubt, has more smarts and education than I do. I just felt silly. But, you know, the way the game was going, I just felt it was the right. There is a bit of strategy involved. I’m worried about the airing of this particular episode because I did fumble some questions that people are going to turn their heads and go, “Really? You didn’t get that one?” It’s so much easier to answer these questions at home in your pajamas than it is, you know, looking at Jane Lynch in the eye with 6,000 lights at your face in front of cameras. Your brain tends to wander. So yes, we all had had some answers that we couldn’t believe we didn’t get at the time!

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Did it get very competitive?

ERIC: There was little competition there. If I recall, it’s Galen and Bryan that went at it a little bit and had some laughs. But again, I can’t stress this enough, it was all done with fun. At the end of the day, every one of us wanted to win. I think the smartest person did actually come out victorious.

Now in the game, for those that have never seen it, you’re on your podium, and then Jane gives a question, right?

ERIC:  It’s a firing squad of questions. You only have a certain amount of time to answer. If you get the correct answer or the wrong answer, you immediately, go to the next contestant and you have a certain amount of time. And then, at the end of that line of questioning, everyone gets to vote as to who they believed was the biggest dummy in the group. (Laughs) Some questions are simple. You know, “What color is Santa Claus’ suit?” And then, the next question is “What is 648,000 times 14?” or what’s the population of some obscure country? So, that was the biggest challenge. Someone else might get, “What is the main ingredient of a banana split?” And my question could be like, “How much is 9,430 times x 59 million?” There’s an intimidation factor that Jane Lynch brings to it when she’s staring you down.

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When the cast finished the entire game, what happened backstage?

ERIC:  The best part was there were these post interviews that the Weakest Link conducts where you have to go into a dark black room. I think my first question was, “How did you feel about that wrong answer?” They don’t let up. They just keep jabbing at you. “Did you feel ridiculous getting the wrong answer to that fourth-grade level question?” (Laughs) There was also a lot of trash talk with that happened after the show. It got so competitive. If I recall, we were all supposed to go out together and get a meal with everybody, and that never happened. They’re like, “I’m not eating lasagna with you right now. You just voted me off!” Now, even the first person that gets voted off, you’re going to be shocked, because I thought this person would probably win it. In the game, you want the best people to remain on the panel because that’s what drives up the money.

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Later this week on DAYS, we will see the debut of your new on-screen son, Leo Howard, taking over from Jamie Martin Mann as Tate.

ERIC: How about that?  I just did a post on Instagram, because I saw that Jamie Martin Mann had liked and hearted a post about Leo Howard coming on the show. I just thought that was so classy of him. That’s the way it’s supposed to be, “This is the new guy. Embrace him. He’s good. I’ve met him. He is a good guy.” It’s about handing off the character baton sometimes, sort to speak. I was really proud of those guys. I reached out to Jamie. He just wants to go to college and be a student. I understand that. That’s important.

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Is that challenging for you as an actor since you’ve built this relationship with the one guy as your son, and now you’ve got to pivot and create a different kind of energy with someone else taking on the part?

ERIC: Leo Howard has been in the industry for a while, with some very good credits to his name. He brings a certain charisma to this role that I think people are really going to love. And yes, he’s older, but he plays younger, and he has that ability and he’s pulling it off brilliantly. I can’t wait for people to see him, but of course I miss Jamie. Emily O’Brien (Theresa) and I really grew to love him very quickly because the storyline got so deep, so quickly, with the drug intervention and then him getting beat up in in prison. I mean, as a father, that’s the kind of stuff that you have nightmares about, you know, your kids being in pain.

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I still love the fact that Emily O’Brien is still noticeably wearing a blonde wig as Theresa. What are your thoughts on how the transition has been for you, and for her pivoting to a completely different role?

ERIC: I hadn’t worked with Emily much before, because Gwen and Brady never really crossed paths. We all saw the transition that she had to make. When I became Brady, the character hadn’t been on the map for three years.  When she became Theresa, she walks out one gate and comes through the other as Theresa. We all had a good giggle about it. That’s hard to ask an audience to go,  OK, I’m Gwen, now I’m Theresa.” I was scrolling through X (formerly Twitter) and I saw a couple posts from fans that said how they were really weary, at first, about accepting Emily O’Brien as Theresa. But after today’s episode, they shared, “I’m loving her as Tate’s mom, and the chemistry she has with the family.” I texted Emily and I said, “I just want to let you know that you’re just bringing it home really brilliantly, and people are starting to come around.” I think they’ll do that with Leo Howard too.

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What had it been like without the iconic Bill Hayes (Doug Williams) coming to work and being part of the Days of our Lives cast since his passing?

ERIC: You really do miss that presence in the hallways. He was a song and dance guy and I am a song and dance guy. as well. I kind of find myself the lone singer in the makeup room sometimes, but I could always count on Bill. He’d be humming some old tune from the sixties. I’d start humming along and he’d just kind of lean over and take a look at me, and give a little smile. Everyone else was probably irritated at us, but we just kept singing along. and it’s like 6:30 in the morning. I think Bill was a lot like the late John Aniston (ex-Victor), in the sense that I don’t really feel like he felt he was working. He was just always having fun right up until the end. That little number he did with his wife, Susan Seaforth Hayes (Julie), and Dick Van Dyke (guest starring as Timothy Robicheaux), where he was singing along, he was just living it. It was so cute and so adorable to watch.

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Your final tease for the Weakest Link tonight is, “Fans should watch because …”

ERIC: Fans should watch it because if they thought we were smart before, wait till they see the show.

You can check out the cold open for tonight’s Weakest Link “Days of our Lives special” below.

Now let us know, will you be watching Eric and his co-stars, past and present, attempting to showcase their knowledge on the ‘Weakest Link? Intrigued to see Leo Howard and Eric in scenes as new Tate and his father, Brady? Share your thoughts in the comment section.

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