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Andy Cohen Says Of "Real Housewives" Franchise: "I Think It Has Replaced The Modern Soap Opera In A Weird Way For A Lot Of People"

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Bravo’s Andy Cohen, creator of The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills and all the rest of the “Housewives” series within the franchise, and the host of the late-night celebrity talker Watch What Happens Live, appeared on CBS Sunday Morning just a few days ago promoting his new book, “The Andy Cohen Diaries: A Deep Look at a Shallow Year.”

When discussing with the shows anchor including: Charlies Rose and Gayle King why the “Real Housewives” franchise has fascinated so many in the viewing audience, Cohen says, “I think “that the Housewives” have replaced the modern soap opera in a weird way for a lot of people.”

Noting of daytime dramas, Cohen related: “Scripted soap operas, there’s only a couple on the air now, and truth is stranger than fiction, which is part of the reason why I love my book actually, because things that happen to us in real life… you couldn’t write this stuff.  It certainly holds true with all the Beverly Hills housewives, and all the rest.”

Watch the interview with Cohen from CBS This Morning after the jump! Then let us know, do you agree that the reality series franchises are the soaps of our time?  Does Andy make a good point?  And remember, he is a big fan of Susan Lucci (Ex-Erica Kane AMC, Devious Maids)! So, comment below!

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Mark
Mark

He is a dreamboat !!

Nicole
Nicole

This I agree with, the RH franchise has the glamour that soaps can’t afford to show today.

Chris
Chris

ANDY IS AN IDIOT!!!!!! THERE ARE FOUR DAYTIME SOAPS LEFT ON THE AIR, NOT TWO!!!!!!

Chris F,
Chris F,

he said a couple…….not two specifically….ok……there are 2 couples…….for cryin out loud…….4 compared to 10 almost a decade ago is a couple……he should have said a few……shoot him…….crucify him……get a life

Mitch Laurence
Mitch Laurence

He’s a self deluded ass! HE has probably never worked on a soap, not likely even seen one. There is no comparison. Soaps are written by skilled writers, crafted by industry professionals, utilize many skills like set design, fashion and lighting, and have REAL actors who practice their craft and take it seriously. Many have gone on to have huge careers on TV, movies, and on Broadway. Reality TV, which it is NOT, is a bunch of narcissistic sociopaths winging it thinking they are important, when they should seek professional help. How come any moron can write a book now days? His comments are insulting to soap fans and we should be outraged. I am.

PS Put out the RIP sign. OLTL & AMC are never coming back.

Judy
Judy

Dream on Andy. I have no interest in Real Housewives but I love my daytime soaps. I’ve never watched Real Housewives and never will. I love Eileen Davidson but won’t watch for her either.

Nanci
Nanci

Exactly the way I feel about it, too…word for word.

Sharice
Sharice

Same here, Judy.

These junk housewives show appeal to gay men who love soaps but that doesn’t mean Cohen should try to take away those gay men who also love soaps.

Alan
Alan

I’m a gay man who loves the soaps and the housewives hold absolutely no appeal for me or my boyfriend.

Chris F,
Chris F,

gay man…….watch them both…..

Eileen
Eileen

Andy’s right…I watch them all!

Chris F,
Chris F,

me too

jimh(leave it to beaver)
jimh(leave it to beaver)

You may compare them to a primetime soap but those so called housewives you cant compare to daytime unless you air original episodes 5 days a week…then we will talk Andy!!!

Claudio
Claudio

Andy you are very annoying my friend, I love my daytime soaps. Real House wives are trashy has beens with plastic faces botox and fake boobs. These woman like the drama, and there 15 minutes of fame. If I want drama and romance I will watch GH and The YOUNG AND The Restless. Andy is cute, but not gorgeous. I am a gay man, smart good looking and a loving wonderful smart boyfriend.

jaybird369
jaybird369

Claudio,

A-M-E-N to what you’re saying!!!!! I don’t think that Andy has a C-L-U-E about soaps. At all. There are only 2 reality shows that I REALLY ENJOY watching…DWTS and Big Brother. The rest of ’em I cannot stand!!!!! Claudio…I’m sorry but I DO NOT find Andy cute…at all. And I think that Andy is BEYOND ANNOYING!!!!! Furthermore, as far as men go in general, Andy is SO NOT my type!!!!! I’ve ALWAYS PREFERRED older men!!!!! As in…men older than me…LOL!!!!! Bottom Line Here: Andy needs to STFU!!!!!

Claudio…Happy Holidays to you and your boyfriend. Peace.

Rob
Rob

If this guys ego was any more inflated he would float away.

Charday
Charday

Agree, totally. All of Andy’s shows are total trash. I used to sorta like Andy’s talk show, but now his massive ego has ruined the show.

Rob
Rob

These shows feature completely orchestrated scenes and events, not exactly what I call “reality”.

NONE of these women would even look at each other outside these “reality” shows.

rebecca1
rebecca1

Never watched those types of shows and probably never will. In my opinion watching the “supposed” lives of other people has nothing to do with engrossing yourself in a fictional town with fictional people. A key point would be a level of attachment…I would assume you can “like” or “side” with a reality show person…but you don’t form the attachment that you can develop for a character/characters when you’re a regular viewer of a scripted soap.

jimh(leave it to beaver)
jimh(leave it to beaver)

Well said…i watched one episode with Eileen D. to see what its like and thats about 1 hr of my life ill never get back!!!

rebecca1
rebecca1

jimh…lol…I guess curiosity got the best of ya!

jimh(leave it to beaver)
jimh(leave it to beaver)

GHs Helene will use mind control on a programmed Jason who will help Faison escape…Faison and Dr. Liesl will go on the run…Helene remains in PC disguised with a Dr.Liesl mask…sorry to go off topic but id thought youd like to know!!!…lol

rebecca1
rebecca1

did you read spoilers jimh or are you predicting…because as of today’s episode you’re right on point!

jimh(leave it to beaver)
jimh(leave it to beaver)

I dont read spoilers…i love suspense…reading spoilers ruin the fun…i like to predict…right or wrong its fun…ive done it for years…mostly wrong…lol…but its still fun…see ya later!!!

rebecca1
rebecca1

oh I know you don’t report spoilers…I’m used to your very often spot on predictions! I was joking by implying your prediction was soooo good this time you must have! But we’re still going to have to wait and see if your Helena/Dr. O (yet another mask…could it be??? lol) look into the future comes true. If Helena could pull off a German accent complete with oozing sarcasm and biting wit…the mask alone should win an emmy! 🙂

Maharet
Maharet

You couldn’t pay me to watch Real Housewives of (anywhere). Really, there is no comparison. I could not care less about those shows or the people on them.

Donna
Donna

NEVER will that CRAP replace a talented cast of actors and gifted writers!

wayne r harrison
wayne r harrison

that is so very much true,real housewives will never replace real acting

Delores
Delores

Totally agree!!!!

Jake NJ
Jake NJ

I agree…Lisa and Eileen are the closest that will ever come to a daytime soap. We need to hang onto the 4 on air!!!

Patrick
Patrick

“OH ! how INSULTing”

I won’t even read the article

“…in a weird way”

yep

Serial is the cornerstone of all of daytime

Jeff
Jeff

I don’t agree at all! Scripted soaps are way better than these vapid, trashy housewives shows!!

PV Jr.
PV Jr.

Merriam-Webster defines the word, “housewife” as a MARRIED a woman who stays at home, does cleaning, cooking, etc., and does not have another job outside the home or a MARRIED woman in charge of a household.

So I ask you, where does Brandi Glanville fit in? She is divorced, no?

These woman are a FAR CRY from a “housewife.” That being said, this whole “Real Housewives” franchise amounts to nothing more than the laziness of the world we now live in. Why is reality television so popular? Because people are not sophisticated enough to follow a good, scripted show and, if you need evidence of this, I present to you KEEPING UP WITH THE KARDASHIANS

Hallelujah for cable and network dramas!

PV Jr.
PV Jr.

Sorry, I hit the button before finishing my thought.

The Kardashian crap and this Honey Boo Boo crap and Dancing with the Stars crap is insulting and a slap in the face to real TV viewers. But just like all those that believed everything that Oprah said, like she was some kind of prophet, they cannot think for themselves. They are not mature enough to follow a scripted show. I bet the people that watch any of the above would be just as delighted to pull up a chair and watch a train wreck or a car on fire.

What has happened to the world we live in? Movie studios and networks recycle old intellectual properties and do not create anything new because of this world of instant gratification and shock and awe, not to mention the insane popularity of celebrity worship.

Mary
Mary

Totally agree! What a sad statement of what is actually watched…these are like train wrecks

Matt P
Matt P

I love Andy but his comments were ignorant about soaps. I am a fan of both RH and soaps but they are both scripted which is what Andy should have admitted. NeNe Leakes going to a coffee shop to have an arguement with Kenya Moore is no different then Mariah running into Abby at Crimson Lights on The Young & The Restless. Both shows have producers, editors and actors. One genre is more blatantly honest about what you’re getting yourself into when you tune in.

Mo
Mo

Um, I thought Housewives was scripted fiction.

When Housewives first started, I thought it was about a group of friends who were housewives (married women who didn’t have outside jobs).

sue
sue

I would rather watch OLTL or AMC.

su0000
su0000

Bravo’s Andy Cohen, creator of The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills and all the rest of the “Housewives” series within the franchise//

He needs a ”reality” check .. lol
He knows he is talk junk and he needs to say that , he’s just pushing his show and book.. And BRAVO is not a prime network..

The Real Housewives, is trash …… and is known as trash reality … lol

richard
richard

In a way, he is right. As much as people complain about these shows, they continue to grow and add other cities to their roster. And the fab, over the top parties are only what soaps dream of now. Add the catfighting, glamorous clothes, hunky husbands and exotic trips, and they ARE basically soap operas lol haters can hate, but Nene and Co are laughing all the way to the bank. And they keep it fresh by adding a new housewife here and there every season, so this is true lol

jimh(leave it to beaver)
jimh(leave it to beaver)

Lets see if this ‘overrated- with an ego bigger than her booty’ Nene has the longevity of a Susan Lucci or a Tony Geary…remember Jersey Shore…we are seeing not as much of those freaks and in a few years they will be long forgotten like most reality stars…wheres is Jon from Jon and Kate plus 8 for example!!! Reality shows have a few years and will fade in popularity just like the disco ball…lol

Rapids
Rapids

I agree with Andy, the housewife shows are way more entertaining than any trite soap opera. Soaps ran out of new ideas twenty plus years ago. Budget cuts also killed soaps for me, I am not interested in watching endless dreary hospital corridors or other dull sets. Andy wAs a huge soap fan. His first book discussed at length how he and his parents stopped watching soaps, then turned on the TV years later to be disappointed in his fave show, AMC.

jimh(leave it to beaver)
jimh(leave it to beaver)

I dont see any new ideas on these reality serials which are only partially real…those big splasy parties and beautiful party gowns are all rehash of daytime soaps…whats new to offer here: some botoxed boob enhanced lady desperate for 15 minutes of fame holds a party or dinner event Bravo pays for and invites all her costars…someone says someting that insults the other and argues…they talk about it for weeks…suddenly the bad girl is friends with the good girls bff…i checked each of these shows and its all the same thing on each show…the only difference is the title…by the way…HOUSEWIVES? Several arent even married…lmfao!!!

Jenn
Jenn

I do think that reality television has replaced the soap opera in many ways. It would be stupid to deny. I don’t like that it has though. I hate reality television. I think soaps still offer things that reality television can’t. These shows don’t have any attractive men for one thing.

su0000
su0000

That might be true, but-
reality TV is cheap, in more ways than one LOL ..
Reality TV is not story telling..
Reality TV is also scripted in many cases..
Reality is shock value..
Reality TV and a soap are two different thing..
– soaps have class and dignity–
– reality is mostly trash..
just the way I see it 🙂

Rapids
Rapids

I don’t see daytime soaps as classy vehicles. I see trashy trite storylines told over and over, baby switches., people sleeping with their inlaws, endless adultery. I am not a prude but these stories got old twenty years ago. Soap acting is mostly bad and dialogue is embarrassing.

Mary SF
Mary SF

It is a bit like saying a fast food hamburger is the same thing as steak served at a five star restaurant — sure they are both beef, but a good steak is something you savor, while a burger with its fat and grease is usually eaten quickly because it may taste great on the way down, but your stomach is unsettled for the rest of the day. Same with reality television, it is the junk food of the airwaves— what is next believing porno films should have a category at the Academy Awards?

A Baptiste
A Baptiste

I understand Andy is promoting his already successful book and “his” Housewives brand, but how egotistical and disrespectful, OK, unmindful. Oh, and if he means the Housewives brand is getting tired and thus is getting more and more scripted and contrived…

The daytime dramas have been carefully constructed with arcs and top writers for decades, the east coast actors are often stage/Broadway artists, the west coast actors have certainly been dedicated to the travails of the field and all take their portrayals seriously. I don’t think daytime soaps are obsolete, just going through a transition, as nothing can replace them. Lastly, how interesting that The Doctors on Retro TV is becoming so popular, those little half hour episodes now airing, circa ’68 are a real revelation.

Timmm
Timmm

Andy is delusional. Those tramps on housewives are either real or playing it up for their own reality shows. Soap operas are and art! Eileen should be ashamed to be attached to this garbage!

Cordero
Cordero

I find it that he would say that. Half of that mess is scripted. Andy please go sit down somewhere. Soaps are far better than Real Housewives! My mom likes real housewives of Atlanta but would never chose it over a soap. I don’t know why he would say that knowing that they don’t compete against soaps. Just because ED and LR are on the show you think it replaced soaps No. Real housewives to me is a bunch of high school drama. With grown folks acting a fool. Why say that when you are trying to capture the soap audience.

Sherry
Sherry

I have commented before that the Real Housewives are like Menudo to me. But I don’t even know where Menudo is anymore…please just end it all gracefully.

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Beginning today on Monday, September 23rd, the series Tainted Dreams, which shows you the behind-the-scenes antics of a fictional hit TV soap opera, will stream its first two seasons for free on the on the Popstar! TV platforms.

To view: you can download the Popstar! TV’s mobile app or visit www.popstaronline.com to watch Tainted Dreams or for more info visit https://www.tainteddreams.com/#home-section.

For those who need a refresher: Tainted Dreams follows the cast and crew behind the scenes of a hit TV soap opera called “Painted Dreams”, and of course, it’s filled with lots of twists and turns

In addition, there is a bonus episode on Popstar! TV that gives some background on how all the characters came to be a part of “Painted Dreams”.

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Sonia Blangiardo, the executive producer and creator of Tainted Dreams shared in a statement: “We are thrilled that there is more life for the show and that the new exposure will attract new viewers for the series. We’re excited to be in great company with the other shows the platform will be streaming and couldn’t be happier to be working with Craig and Jim Romanovich who has always been a loyal soap supporter.”

Tainted Dreams features a cast that includes: All My Children veterans Alicia Minshew, Walt Willey, Michael Lowry, Bobbie Eakes, Terri Ivens and the late Larkin Malloy, General Hospital’s Natalia Livingston, As the World Turns‘ Colleen Zenk, Austin Peck, Marnie Schulenburg and Kelley Menighan, Guiding Light’s Grant Aleksander, One Life to Live’s Ilene Kristen, Tonja Walker, Nathan Purdee and James DePaiva, Big Brother’s Jessie Godderz, The Real Housewives of New Jersey’s Dina Manzo, and more.

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Cameron first shared the news on Monday’s Home & Family in a special announcement enlightening viewers on his health condition (watch video below) and later took to his Instagram and social media to share more details.   Of note: Mathison’s healthy lifestyle has indeed helped, and shown, that his cancer has not spread.

In addition, Mathison wrote: “About a month ago, I had an MRI for some gut issues I’ve been having, and during that MRI they fd a tumor on my right kidney. It’s consistent with Renal Cell Carcinoma … or kidney cancer. The good news is that it hasn’t spread to any other organs🙏🏼 They say my healthy lifestyle and diet has no doubt helped keep it from growing and spreading to other areas, as doctors think it’s been growing in me for minimum 10 years🙏🏼. I am extremely lucky that we found it early.” He thanked his doctor and his family, saying, “[wife] Vanessa, [kids] Lucas and Leila have been absolutely amazing with their love and support… as have my mom, dad, brother, and everyone at Home and Family, Hallmark, and ET❤️ My surgery is scheduled on September 12th, I was hoping to receive positive thoughts, prayers, or whatever you feel comfortable with, on 9/12 (my surgery is at 1pm PST) 🙏🏼.” He concluded, “Feeling very grateful and optimistic!”

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At the time, ABC announced it would move to more lifestyle/entertainment series to replace these dramas.  In its place came The Chew and The Revolution, neither show is still on the air today.  Executives at that time pointed to research saying that times are changing and that their decision was “guided by extensive research into what today’s daytime viewers want,” and blame, in part, “the changing viewing patterns of the audience” for the axing of AMC and OLTL

Then ABC Daytime President, Brian Frons had joked to Deadline about the big announcement that he: “Pre-entered the witness protection program prior to today’s events.”  He added that “The demise of the two venerable soaps was actually a year in the making.  A year ago, we started to look at our projections where the ratings for the soaps would go.  When those projections came in pretty discouraging, the network began to aggressively develop replacement shows, 15 of them.  Four of the 15 were picked up to pilot: The Chew and The Revolution and two others, a talk show and a dating show. Originally, the idea was to cancel only one daytime drama.  The way the ratings developed and the pilots turned out, the ratings developed negatively and pilots developed positively, so we decided to make a bigger shift.”  Of note is that when it went off the air, One Life to Live was in third place among its competitors in the ratings.

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Following the cancellations daytime reeled. The mainstream was sure it meant the endings of the soaps, period.  However, four shows illustrated that is not true at all.  For Days of our Lives, General Hospital, The Bold and the Beautiful and The Young and the Restless all remain, and still whether they are up or down in their numbers/ratings, they remain relevant and important to the enduring daytime viewing audience.

Sadly, as with any shows, the end of ABC’s AMC and OLTL meant loss of jobs for so many working in front of the camera and behind the scenes. One Life was the last soap opera in production in New York at the time.  AMC was already being shot in LA to cut costs to save it.

Still in 2019, if you venture on to social media, especially Twitter, you see fans constantly missing its stars and the towns of Llanview and Pine Valley, wanting this wrong rectified.  Although Prospect Park tried to revive the show with their online versions, eventually after legal battles that went on for a few years, ABC now retains the right to these properties,

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So, do you think the loss of AMC and OLTL consolidated daytime and made the remaining shows stronger so they would not be touched or canceled?  Do you think ABC should try to mount a resurrected AMC and OLTL or an amalgamation of the two?  Do you remember where you were when you learned the two soaps were cancelled? Was this the worst misstep of all-time for daytime? Share your thoughts and theories via the comment section below.

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