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GENERAL HOSPITAL: The Ryan and Esme Connection Revealed

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I wasn’t one bit surprised by this “revelation” other than that it seemed to be dropped in order to bring us the play-once-a-week teens going to the cabin and sex tape story that’s taken forever to come to light. Something about the exposition sounded like the writers changed their minds on some of the details. I’d be interested in finding out. GH seems to have a history of writing story for 13-week cycles and then dropping them for another 13 weeks, much like “Port Charles” used to do. I hope this doesn’t continue to happen, as I want to invest… Read more »
Rodd, I felt the same way about the shortening of the sex tape tale and I’m happy for it. Trina is one of the best defined characters; only a complete idiot would believe she’d betray a friend like that.
I predict there will be quite a few complete idiots running around.
I think Esme will turn out to be Kevin and Lucy’s daughter, somehow.
You don’t think Kevin would recognize his own daughter, especially since she’s been living in his house for months now. I’m actually surprised he hasn’t noticed the family resemblance enough to realize she’s his niece. Or that Laura hasn’t figured it out, for that matter… though she seems a little more focused on the Cassadines lately.
I don’t know about what Kevin would recognize, but after yesterday’s show with Lucy on talking to Brando’s mom about not meddling in her son’s life, I realized Esme reminds me of a young Lucy Coe. She looks like her and acts like her.
Esme was never a mousy librarian, but the resemblance is definitely there.
Lucy was a rascal back in the day, but I don’t recall her killing anyone, which I suspect Esme did regarding her adoptive parents.
Don’t recall Lucy killing anyone, but she’s covered up a crime or two. She and Alan did hide Victor Jerome’s body after he choked on the necklace after she rejected him.
I believe Kevin knows more than he admits too. I never trusted Kevin because he covers up for his bro
If what I read on another site is true of who Esme’s mother is, we may have to temper our hate and disgust for this girl with a lot of pity.
I like spoilers but do not like revealing them to others who don’t,and sometimes they aren’t true as I sure hope this one isnt.
The Devil called this one months ago, of course. Now they just have to reveal who her mother is. And I’m still saying it’s Harmony… though I’ll be eternally damned if I can imagine a plausible story to explain how she would have known Ryan some 20 years ago when Esme would have been conceived
I’m wondering if they’ll play with timelines somehow and make Felicia Esme’s bio mom.
There was some pretty funky chemistry between Ryan and Esme, so I’m not 100% convinced she’s his daughter.
Regardless, glad to see this storyline moving along and Lindstrom will be getting major screen time again.
Steve
You said “funky chemestry”, well I felt that way about Esme and Nicolas today after he saved her from Carly grabbing her arm. Gosh Esme “acted” like she was getting killed. Do you think that was a self inflicted bruise? Anyway, knowing how devoted Nicolas is to Ava, something was off today as he acted (maybe the right word?) too solicitous of her feelings.
Esme’s bruise likely came from Ryan grabbing her in their cell scene at Spring Ridge the other day.
The implication of attraction between Nikolas and Esme furthers the dumbing down of his character. Call it a flirtation, attraction or whatever, this seems more plot point drivers than true to character.
Under Tyler Christopher, Nik always seemed to be one step ahead of everyone (whether he was doing good or bad things). Marcus Coloma (with the writings taking some responsibility) plays Nik as more reactionary and never appears to really see what’s going on.
Ryan did give her that bruise and she barely flinched while getting it.
It doesn’t matter who plays Nic, the character won’t see it coming. This s/l is purely plot driven.
No, Violet, Miss Esme would never hurt herself. Ryan roughed her up the day before (?) when he was railing at her for disappointing him. Talk about dysfunctional. These two make the Jerome and Cassadine clans seem normal.
The bruise was either self inflicted (we have seen Esme digging her nails into her hands as a “coping mechanism”) or might have been from Daddy Ryan grabbing her, as he suddenly seemed to show a lot of strength for a guy who had been a vegetable for several months. Either way, the bruises were obviously there before Carly grabbed her, and that whole crying performance was obviously staged by Esme to get sympathy from Nikolas. I have an unholy suspicion here that they’re going to recycle some old Psycho Nelle scripts here and Esme’s going to try to get… Read more »
STEVE,SOAPHOUND and SATAN
Thank you all for setting me straight with my very senior moments. I did read elsewhere that Ryan sent Esme to PC with the very purpose of breaking up Nik and Ava, even as far as seducing Nickolas if need be. I just thought dummy Nic was falling for her touchy,feely act but I now think he knew what was really going on. I had totally forgotten about Ryan grabbing her arm the day before. Thanks, guys.
I don’t think she (or Willow) could be Nina’s. Nina’s kid was stolen by her mother more than 20 years ago and Nina’s been on GH for years now. Both girls are just too young.
Nina would have been a complete vegetable at the time Esme was born. I’m a Devil, not a doctor, but I’d be surprised if a woman in that state could even conceive a child… not to mention the borderline necrophilia that would be required to make such a thing possible. That’s a line even Ryan probably wouldn’t cross! It’s true that Nina gave birth to Psycho Nelle while she was in veggie land, but she was already well into that pregnancy when her mama drugged her, so it was more a matter of things being on “auto pilot” for the… Read more »
You’re right, Satan. Though I would also contend that Nina’s current lust for Sonny requalifies her for “vegetable” status. I still think Willow is somehow Nelle’s fraternal twin, like Mariah and Cassie on Y&R.. some kind of delivery room shenanigans.
Fraternal twins really wouldn’t make sense because Phyllis was supposedly present when Nina had her coma baby. And certainly would have known if there were two of them. I don’t think Willow had anything to do with Nina. The revelation that Harmony isn’t Willow’s real mother probably has less to do with Willow and more to do with who Harmony’s biological child actually is…. and that would be a child born several years later, named Esme. Willow’s mother can be the anonymous hippie commune member named “Joan”. It’s really not relevant either way. Psycho Nina doesn’t need any more kids.… Read more »
No, Phyllis was not present when Nina had her baby (or babies). That point has been make specifically on air — likely for the very reason that it opens up the possibility she unknowingly had twins.
Yes, I kinda figured it out with Esme being Ryan‘s supposed daughter. Her mother? Maybe Heather Weber… Or maybe Olivia Jerome, if Ryan and Olivia J. had ever crossed paths.
On a separate note, has anybody done the math about Courtney Matthews death? She passed away in 2006, so wouldn’t that make Nicolas too young to be around the college age?
Interesting thoughts on Heather and Olivia. Timeline wise, Ryan and Heather could’ve crossed paths. Kevin had Ryan locked away (presumed dead to everyone else) by the late 90s. Heather was institutionalized until shortly before returning to PC with her sudden Luke obsession and “romancing” of Jed Allan’s Edward. Robin Mattson does not appear to be acting anymore so we are unlikely to get any Heather spottings. Olivia Jerome was presumed dead after Julian shot her around 1990. Not sure where she was in hiding, but connecting her to Ryan might be tough. Esme’s animosity towards Ava could be further explained… Read more »
Courtney was always a bore, imo. As far as Esme and Ava, I think Esme’s mad because Daddy One Hand doesn’t want her.
I thought the same thing. Spencer would be 16. And what happened to the month of February? All these dates of birthdays and death dates and Valentine’s day–happening in March??? The show hasn’t been pre-empted that much.
I think that GH shut down production for a few weeks during the Omicron spike.
They delayed the start of taping at the beginning of the year by a week. That doesn’t impact air dates. They should be up-to-date with calendar timing.
Courtney’s gravestone apparently hasn’t been updated since the last SORASing of Spencer.
On the other horn, Joss is now pushing 20 (she was old enough to vote in the 2020 election) even though Jake is 14…. but when Jake allegedly died he was 4 years old, and his kidney was given to Joss who was still in diapers at the time. The fact that they rewrote all of that later so they could make an excuse for Psycho Nelle’s existence doesn’t change the fact that the ages of the kids are way off the track.
We’ve been thinking for months ever since Ryan and Esme’s first encounter that they were possibly related, especially with both being Sociopaths. When she calls him “daddy” it’s almost dirty and their whole conversation gave me the creeps. I need to see more before I can believe Ryan is her “bio daddy”.It’s too sick for me to believe yet.
I’m not at all entertained by this storyline. Especially now. There is already enough bad things happening in the real world beside covid because of another creepy man. Fast forward time for me.
rose
Another creepy man? You are too nice.
Violet…Ohhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!…I have other words for him/it. But I would rather try to rise above him/it with the language I put into the universe.
I really would like Esmae off the show. Period I hate what she is doing to Trista. She does not belong in jail. Esmae is a real creepy person
Not surprised, but Im thinking it’s not his daughter, but his grand niece, being that she’s Kevin granddaughter. Mother being Kevin’s daughter Livvie Locke-Clay, and father being crazy Stephen (Caleb) Clay. Many people say Esme is like a Nelle 2.0, so in my version of her family tree, she is indeed related to Nelle! Stephen Clay’s brother was Silas Clay who was Kiki Jerome’s father (with Ava), and father of Nina’s twins, Willow and Nelle.
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