Interviews
Ron Carlivati (Part 2) – One Life To Live
In Part Two of our four part segment with One Life to Live’s head writer, Ron Carlivati, Michael Fairman and Ron chat about the Viki/Dorian feud and where Clint and Charlie fit into the equation. Also, the same-sex romance of Kyle and Fish and the decisions to create the year arc story, the accomplishments from it, and the love scene played out on-air on New Years Eve are detailed. Note: This interview was conducted just days prior to Brett Claywell and Scott Evans being let-go.
General Hospital
‘General Hospital’s’ Dominic Zamprogna Weighs-In on Dante and Elizabeth Pairing and Sharing Scenes with Rebecca Herbst (Exclusive)

On General Hospital, the current PCPD commissioner Dante Falconeri (Dominic Zamprogna) has been lied to, and kept in the dark, by those he thought he could trust which includes his ex-wife Lulu (Alexa Havins), his own son, Rocco (Finn Carr) and a man he considers a good friend and police partner, “Nathan” West, only Dante doesn’t know that “Nathan” is a fraud, and really his twin brother, Cassius Faison (Ryan Paevey)!
The only person, who seems to be a good friend and reliable is ‘General Hospital’ head nurse Elizabeth Webber (Rebecca Herbst). For months, GH viewers are witnessing key moments when Dante and Elizabeth are there for each other. In fact, she helped Dante realize it was Rocco who shot Cullum (Andrew Hawkes) and was willing to help him cover up the crime so his son does not go to prison. Problem is, Rocco took off with Britt Westbourne (Kelly Theibaud) and as of now Dante has no idea where they are.
In a new and exclusive interview out this weekend on You Tube’s Michael Fairman Channel, Dominic Zamprogna chats about the potential pairing of Dante and Elizabeth and the opportunity to work with beloved longtime GH favorite, Rebecca Herbst, and if he thinks when all is said and done, Dante will wind up back with Lulu. Here’s some excerpts from the conversation below.

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ELIZABETH HAS PROVEN HERSELF TRUSTWORTHY TO DANTE
Speaking on how Dante feels currently about Elizabeth, Zamprogna explained, “At this point, Elizabeth is the only person, he can trust. She’s the only one who’s essentially told Dante what’s what. But. there’s also this connection for sure beyond that, right? That’s something that we’ve tried to play. We don’t know what the end game is, honestly, as actors, I don’t know what the end game is. You have to assume that every time you’re in a scene with anybody, you’re chemistry testing, and you want to do right by the characters.”
Although Dante’s primary romances have been with Lulu and the late Sam McCall (Kelly Monaco), a paring of Dante and Liz has never been approached by the series until now.
“To me, it’s interesting because they’ve never really explored anything between Dante and Elizabeth before. So, it’s all kind of new,” shared Dominic. “That’s the most exciting part of any relationship, the new stuff, before you jump into the domesticated stuff. That’s maybe where Ric (Rick Hearst) and Elizabeth are. They’re kind of more in this domesticated thing, or experiencing that, whereas Dante and Elizabeth truly are kind of needing each other at this moment.”
As Dominic explains it, Dante has found himself needing Elizabeth as his sounding board, since everyone else betrayed him. “Dante definitely needs Elizabeth and has reached out to her. She’s been honest, and provided him with things that he needed (to help cover up that his son, Rocco shot Cullum), explains the five-time Daytime Emmy nominee. “There’s also the other stuff that he’s finding out about her that he didn’t know. Like when she’s in the office with him and she’s talking about her past and the trauma that she’s been through (referring to Elizabeth’s rape).”

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COULD THERE BE A DANTE/ELIZABETH/RIC TRIANGLE AHEAD?
Dominic continued with high praise for his co-star, “It’s interesting for me to play, because I don’t know that story of Elizabeth as an actor, because it was before I got to the show. So, it’s two characters finding out more about each other who’ve been in each other’s orbit for 17 years. (As to the potential pairing), I’m happy to hear people are digging it because I dig it. Rebecca is phenomenal, and she plays a legacy character, and to me, one of the best actors on the show.”
With Lulu seemingly falling for “Nathan” and then currently breaking it off, Zamprogna and GH fans are awaiting to see what happens when Lulu finds out that “Nathan” is Cassius, while also finding out if Ric Lansing could be the true spoiler in any potential Liz and Dante budding romance.
“I don’t know what the long game is. I literally have no clue,” shared Zamprogna. “I currently don’t believe that there’s a Dante/Lulu happening. It feels like if they did go down the road of Dante and Ric fighting for Elizabeth, I think that would be interesting to have two guys fighting over her as opposed to two women fighting over Ric and Dante.”

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PLANTING THE SEEDS FOR DANTE/ELIZABETH ROMANCE
GH fans will recall the recent scenes where Elizabeth was dressed for her date with Ric, but stopped by Dante’s office at the PCPD first. Dante remarked, in so many words, how beautiful she looked.
Zamprogna hoped that viewers caught it, explaining, “Those are real little moments that I’m always happy or captured. It’s two people who don’t have a romantic relationship, but, planting those little seeds of her coming in and him seeing her out of her scrubs for the first time and being like, ‘Oh my, God You look amazing.” And then as the scene ends, they’re kind of wrapped up in things, and then he is like, ‘I could keep talking to you forever,’ but she has a date to get to with Ric.”
You can check out the full conversation with Dominic Zamprogna now on the Michael Fairman Channel below.
Now, let us know, after checking out Dominic’s thoughts on a potential Dante and Elizabeth pairing? Are you hoping the GH writers put them together, or do you want Liz with Ric? And, do you think the end game will still be Dante and Lulu as the exes still have to come together to find their son, Rocco, who is on the run with Britt? Share your thoughts via the comment section below.
Beyond the Gates
‘Beyond the Gates’ Star Brandon Claybon Talks Inclusion, The Crossover, While the Fate of Martin Richardson Hangs in the Balance

On Friday’s June 12 episode of Beyond the Gates, after it appeared Martin Richardson (Brandon Claybon) survived being trapped under a tree after a tornado ripped through Fairmont Crest, viewers were left with a frightening cliffhanger when Martin got up and tries to walk, but only took two steps before he collapsed right in front of his husband, Smitty (Mike Manning)!
Previously, Martin had directed Shonda to use all the money donated from his campaign fundraiser for tornado relief efforts. Nicole (Daphnée Duplaix), Ted (Keith D. Robinson) and Smitty advised Martin that he needed to go to the hospital to get check out for any internal injuries or brain trauma. However, when Martin found out his sister Kat (Colby Nixon) was missing he began to panic. Martin says he just wants to go home and get some rest, even as his husband told him he should get checked out. Now, viewers will need to wait till the Monday, June 15 episode to see the upshot.
Official Beyond the Gates spoilers for June 15 share, “In the wake of the tornado, Shanice, Ashley and Jacob rush into action when someone collapses. Meanwhile, emergency surgery is required to save a life. Nicole’s update worries Samantha and Tyrell.” But is the surgery for Eva (Ambyr Michelle) who was rushed to the hospital or Martin?

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MEETING THEE VICTOR NEWMAN
With such a pivotal week of story, Michael Fairman TV caught up with Brandon Claybon earlier this week during a roundtable press junket at A Toast for Black Excellence event in Los Angeles, promoting the major crossover event on Beyond the Gates which featured six cast members from The Young and the Restless, who also got caught up in the twister, but not the mighty Victor Newman (Eric Braeden). He somehow escaped and made it back to Genoa City in one piece.
Claybon shared his excitement of initially meeting Eric Braeden, because in the Black community, they have a long-history of watching the soap, and love Victor! “I think I just had to pinch myself because I was shaking hands with Victor Newman (on-screen), that means so much too many people spiritually,” expressed Brandon. “For people in my community, Victor Newman is everything and to have the Y&R cast in Atlanta and at our studios.”
While viewers wait to find out the fate of Martin Richardson, Claybon recalled the shooting of the Tornado storyline. “These episodes were a lot of hard work. We’re talking about 12 to 15 hour days, and you have to think about all of the actors supporting each other, it’s tremendous. Everything that we went through that viewers we’ll see sooner or later was so well worth it!”

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PRIDE MONTH REPRESENTATION
In a very important illustration of inclusion, it was key in the story to note that Genoa City titans, Victor Newman and Jack Abbott (Peter Bergman), were backing Martin Richardson’s political campaign. Martin is married to Smitty in an interracial romance, and the two men are raising two black teenagers, which is a first on daytime television for a nucleus of a family. This story point is not lost on Claybon.
“Martin needs money (it was a fundraiser), so it was amazing that both Victor Newman and Jack Abbott were financially helping him with his campaign. This is is Pride month, you know, and for the first interracial gay couple on daytime TV, people are coming up to me to all the time, saying, “I see myself in your character and relationship,” and that’s what it means, representation, and that’s what we’re here for. It’s something that I’ve prepared for and I do know the responsibility it holds. Martin loves Smitty dearly, and Martin loves his family, and family is everything now.”
Previously, Michael Fairman TV spoke with Beyond the Gates series creator, head writer and executive producer, Michele Val Jean, where she named the racism storyline involving Martin killing a white bigot to protect himself and his grandfather, Vernon Dupree (Clifton Davis), one of her favorite storylines in the young soap’s history.”It’s absolutely remarkable. She didn’t tell me this. I didn’t know, but it means a lot coming from her,” expressed Brandon. “Michele’s been doing this a long time, and especially for her to have her own show, she thought it would never happen. The words, “a legacy.” I think about it all the time, especially because the show has the power to change attitudes.”

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WILL BEYOND THE GATES SCORE BIG AT UPCOMING DAYTIME EMMY AWARDS?
Coming up next month, the nominations are expected to be announced for the 53rd annual Daytime Emmy Awards. This would mark the first year that Beyond the Gates is eligible for the competition for its season 1. Will they triumph?
Claybon had this perspective, “I am looking forward to having a moment to celebrate with the cast, and with each other. That’s the most important thing. Recognition is fun, but at the same time, it’s not why we do this. I’m an actor, but my passion in life is to encourage, uplift, entertain and inspire. I don’t want to think about that when acting. Let (awards) come if they may, but if they don’t, I’ll still be OK.”
You can check out a moment from Friday’s Beyond the Gates below, where Martin is seemingly “OK” and Abby Newman (Melissa Ordway) finds out Victor got out of Fairmont Crest just in time!
Now let us know, what do you think will be the fate of Martin Richardson? Will he have sustained a life-altering brain injury or be OK? What did you think of the final episode of the crossover? Do you enjoy the portrayal of the same-sex relationship between Martin and Smitty and sees its importance, as we are in the middle of Pride Month? Weigh-in via the comment section.
Beyond the Gates
Peter Bergman and Daphnée Duplaix Preview ‘Beyond the Gates’ and ‘The Young and the Restless’ Crossover and What Befalls Jack and Nicole Amidst a Tornado (Exclusive)

Get ready for an action-packed story arc when several of Genoa City’s most prominent residents descend on Fairmont Crest for a fundraiser for congressman Martin Richardson’s (Brandon Claybon) campaign which kickstarts the four episode CBS daytime crossover event between Beyond the Gates and The Young and the Restless.
Beginning Tuesday, June 9 and airing though Friday, June 12 on CBS and streaming on Paramount+, in true soap opera fashion, a tornado is heading straight towards the D.C./Maryland area and strikes during the soiree, putting everyone’s life in peril.
Participating in the crossover from The Young and the Restless are: Jack Abbott (Peter Bergman), Victor Newman (Eric Braeden), Diane Jenkins (Susan Walters), Kyle Abbott (Michael Mealor), Devon Winters (Bryton James) and Abby Newman (Melissa Ordway).

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Now, as is soap opera tradition, when a tornado strikes your soap town, expect the story to be anchored on who is stuck with who? Is it an ex-husband, a former flame, a hot stranger, feuding sisters, anything and everything is on the table for this one, folks!
As a prelude to what fans will see, Peter Bergman and Daphnée Duplaix (Nicole Dupree Richardson, Beyond the Gates) visited the Michael Fairman Channel to give us the ultimate tease. Below are just a few nuggets we learned from the conversation.
JACK AND DIANE CAN’T SEEM TO FIND COMMON GROUND
Already on the outs with his wife, Diane, how does coming to Fairmont Crest impact a reconciliation between the two? Peter Bergman shared, “One would think you could build on that and that it would bring them closer together. A fellah can dream! Jack was hopeful that this little exit to Maryland might rekindle some things, might help things heal. However, Jack goes back to Genoa City fighting for his marriage.”

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WILL NICOLE CHOOSE A MAN WHILE IN THE RUBBLE?
As for Nicole, she has been playing the field dating two men: Dr. Carlton Fitzgerald (Robert Christopher Riley) and Dr. Kial Rollins (Greg Vaughan), and she still has her ex-husband Dr.Ted Richardson (Keith D. Robinson) wanting her back, might the epic tornado bring her some clarify?
Duplaix explained, “Nicole is still very much in, ‘I am having fun. I’m discovering myself. Do not give me any pressure. Don’t stress me out,’ mode. She does want to give her heart to somebody, but is still scared. So she’s like, ‘let’s just sit back and have some fun.’ As for Ted, I’m still friendly. I’m still kind (towards him).”
Both Daphnée and Peter reported they were most impressed by how Beyond the Gates was able to pull off a natural disaster ripping through Fairmont Crest, so the enormity of it could be played out on-screen in soapy fashion, but leveled up the Beyond the Gates way.
THE MAKING OF A SOAP OPERA TORNADO
“This was movie level quality on a daytime soap,” exclaimed Duplaix. “We used a completely different stage to be able to have the amount of people that we had in these scenes. It was pretty incredible and intense. I think everybody held their own from the front of the camera to the behind the camera, and I think the fans audience are going be not just surprised, but definitely satisfied.”
Twenty-five time Daytime Emmy nominee and a three time winner, Peter Bergman, certainly knows a thing or two about soap operas. Through the year, he has made no bones in previous interviews that he is a student of the genre and does watch other soaps and actors from those respective soaps. Peter was well aware that Beyond the Gates in its year and a half existence has delivered every time they have a major reveal planned.

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ANOTHER SHOCKER IS ON THE WAY
Bergman agreed and added, “So, you are a brand new show. What do you know about what really works in daytime television? Let’s work the things that really work and those shows that have been on 50 years, are not looking for those moments. They’re just kind of keeping the whole thing going. These people are artistically and scientifically looking at what works. Beyond the Gates is a really clever show in that way. There are Cliffhangers left and right. Great idea.”
In the end, Duplaix and Bergman summed up what viewers are about to see best, with Peter giving us a major spoiler alert to be on the lookout for. “It’s all exciting. There’s twists, there’s turns. Things you’re definitely not going expect to happen,” stated Duplaix. “The thing that we are used to as far as natural disasters in the soap opera world are there, but the storylines around what you expect are going be really fun to watch.” Peter concluded with (and wait or it!), “Just when you think they just got through all this crazy wind, something happens that is just nuts!”
You can check out the full conversation with Peter Bergman and Daphnée Duplaix below from You Tube’s Michael Fairman Channel, followed by the official Beyond the Gates promo for the crossover event. We say, look closely at who’s with whom, and what is going down and compare notes from our interview with that, and let us know if you think you have some things figured out!
Now, are you looking forward to the crossover between Beyond the Gates and Y&R? what do you think will be the surprise twist at the end of the tornado episodes? Weigh-in via the comment section.
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Very good interview with Mr. Carlivati. I, too, love the complex relationship between Viki and Dorian, they are always a pleasure to watch. I think that Viki and Charlie are one of the best couples that One Life has these days and as hard as it has been to watch their relationship hit all these bumps in the road, I am looking forward to seeing what happens next. For me, it’s Viki and Charlie all the way, they truly belong together. Erika Slezak and Brian Kerwin have such a natural chemistry, they are a joy to watch as Viki/Charlie.
It’s quite sad to think that Mr. Carlivati obviously knew what was coming down the road for Kish yet never said a word to either of the guys (Scott & Brett). He refers to them as “minor” characters, yet they generated a huge fan base in just the few short months they were on OLTL, and actually only the 2-3 months they were a “couple.” How they can be referred to as “minor” characters when they are so loved by EVERYONE (not just the gay community)! Then we have Gigi, the absolute worst character on the show and the worst actress as well, that has been front and center since January and who took over what was supposed to be Kish’s storyline. (Rumor has it she was unhappy with her lack of screen time). Gigi is the most hated character on the show, yet they push her in everybody’s face on a daily basis. I actually liked Stacy and hoped that Gigi would be the one that drowned in the lake. If OLTL wants to know why their ratings are low, I will be happy to tell them. #1 – GIGI, #2 – the big gay (and stupid) Dorian lesbian wedding, and #3 – keeping Nick on too long and pushing the whole gay-bashing storyline in everyone’s faces when they couldn’t stand the Nick character in the first place. Kish were very popular and well-liked as a couple, but obviously only MINOR in the eyes of FV and RC! They were “disposable”, so it didn’t matter how well they played their characters or how much they put into the storyline. They were just DISPOSABLE!
When are these people going to learn that someone’s “name” recognition or what role they played in a previous soap doesn’t matter to viewers. You couldn’t ask for better actors than we had with Scott Evans and Brett Claywell. I can’t begin to say how many people posted on boards how they hated the idea of a gay storyline being done again, yet after they watched a few of the episodes of Kish, they fell in love with the couple. They were, by far, the STRONGEST and most well-liked couple on the show, and even daytime in general. The whole idea that they didn’t resonate with “mainstream” viewers is nothing but a cop-out for FV and RC to “get rid of them”. Well, I am a “mainstream” viewer (57 year old married female from ILLINOIS) and I think Kish was the absolutel BEST storyline I have seen on ANY soap in many, many years. AND, I resent the fact that FV and RC are making me and other “mainstream” viewers their EXCUSE for dumping Kish. The “mainstream” viewers are actually the ones who LIKED Kish the most, at least based upon comments I have read on other boards. OLTL had the makings for the next daytime SUPERCOUPLE with Kish, yet right at the peek of their popularity, they yanked the rug right out from under them and the viewers who have been there every step of the way through Oliver’s journey. And what did the viewers get in return — a steady diet of GIGI (Fifi-La-Pew as most everyone now calls her), the absolute WORST character and WORST actress on the show. Now rumors have it that Kish was dumped so OLTL could hire Thorsen Kaye to reprise his role as Patrick. Well, I quit watching AMC about 2 years ago because I was SICK TO DEATH of seeing nonstop Zach/Kendall. Zach/Kendall virtually ruined AMC to the point where it now has to “start over” and try to rebuild. If he is paired with Marty, I can guarantee you the same thing will happen on OLTL. I once loved the Marty character from years ago, but this time around, she literally puts you in a “coma” every time she is onscreen.
OLTL, I feel you have made the biggest mistake in recent history by letting Kish get away. If they made that much of an impact on viewers in the short 6-7 months they were on the show, just imagine what they could have done if they were “regulars” and not just considered “minor” characters who TPTB obviously feel were “disposable” and thrown out like yesterday’s garbage.
When Kish is gone on April 16th (Kyle’s last airdate), I will no longer watch OLTL. I am a lifetime viewer, but feel like I was just “RAPED” by my favorite soap. I can just imagine how Scott and Brett feel at this point. And not only will I no longer watch OLTL, but I will no longer be watching ANY ABC network programming, whether it be daytime or prime time. I feel that Scott and Brett were treated horribly the way they were so unceremoniously “dumped” by the show and ABC, when all the other actors who have been let go were given at least 2 months prior notice. I wouldn’t treat my worst enemy that way and OLTL and ABC Disney should be ASHAMED of themselves.
I agree with your extremely long post.. LOL. I also will not be watching OLTL after Kish goes off.
Wow, I 100% agree with every single thing in your post. I quit watching AMC a few yrs ago too.
The whole Gigi thing needs to go. She cannot act and is the worst actor on the show, hands down. Said it from day 1. I fast forward through all of her scenes.
Between that and getting rid of the KISH storyline, it is the start of the OLTL downfall = ( And I’ve been watching for 25 yrs now.
JARDO….i agree withh you 100% and ABC/OLTL is going to regret their decision to let their best couple go when their army of kish fans leave with them……it was the amazing chemistry between Brett Clayell and Scott Evans who made it so easy to fall in love with Kyle and Oliver and they were the best representation of true love on this show or any other on TV…..they are being scapegoated for ratings that were already dismal before they joined the show and in fact they brought many new viewers to it…and far from being minor characters on the show they were their most popular and best loved couple and one only needs to check out the phenomonal YT hits on their story to see how greatly they are loved worldwide….its just too bad that OLTL didnt appreciate these two wonderful actors as much as the fans did…BRAVO BRETT AND SCOTT YOU WERE THE BEST REASON FOR WATCHING THIS SHOW AND THEY WILL REALIZE WHEN YOU ARE GONE JUST HOW IMPORTANT YOU
WERE……YOUR FANS WILL ALWAYS LOVE YOU….
I enjoyed the interview but I was not one of the people who enjoyed the gay storyline. It was a bit too much for my taste with the gay wedding, gay rights, and gay sex. I do not mind KISH on screen as long as it is not being forced down my throat. Take “Modern Family” for example, a great show showcasing gays and I am not offended one bit. It is my favorite show. As for all the banter about Gigi, she is one of my favorite characters and the actress portraying her is one of the reasons.
Stay tuned for Parts 3 and 4 tomorrow, when we talk about all the other hot storylines and couples.
I enjoyed the video intervew. I was not a huge fan of “Kish”, but it is always sad when actors are given the pink slip. With that being said, I am enjoying OLTL and love John/Natalie. Want more Jolie!! Lots, lots more!
Ilove Viki and Dorian, they are the best women rivalry on ABCD! I think one of the reason KISH didnot work was… they were actually kinda boring as a couple. I think Fish was better off without Kyle..Id would had liked him just fine being a cop who just happen to be gay.
i love scott and brett they both belong together and they have daughter to rasie sierra rose they made comment to each other i like fish and brett together and now it’s differtent for them to be happy family just three of them and they are still going to fight to come to show with oltl back on screen again