Yes!
Shemar, please take Neil, Tyler, Leslie, Lilly, Devon with you!
Really, those 5 are horribly dull dull dull ..(they serve no purpose)
Devon doesn’t do much of anything, he is just there.
Leslie doesn’t do much of anything, she is just there.
Tyler doesn’t do much of anything, he is just there.
Neil doesn’t do much of anything, he is stumbling around being nothing interesting.
Lilly dose annoying, very well ..

but– some like the 5 ..
and they would chase Shemar down the street to get the 5 back..
so- they have to stay for the ones who like them to make them happy ..

Yep take all the African American characters and get them off the screen. If that were to happen, there would be so much outrage in the daytime community. YR is the ONLY soap that actually has an African American family unit. I mean because this show DEFINITELY needs more of Victor doing his Wash, Rinse, Repeat SL’s of doing something, everyone gets upset, no one speaks to him, he is forgiven a few months later. A fortune 500 business man who should be making Power moves, is running around dealing with an Amnesia patient. Victor Newman used to be Boss, and sometimes dearly paid for his actions, now he has been reduced to repeating 4x a year, I AM VICTOR NEWMAN. Yet he has done nothing to put the fear in god in folks like he used to. Or Nikki ringing her hands or hitting the bottle part ITS BEEN DONE TO DEATH. So clearly they are not the only ones that are making this show suffer. If anything the Winters family unit is the only thing making me even tune in right now. Except Lily, I’ve ALWAYS hated Lily #1. Why cant she please go chase her primetime dreams or something & take her Self Righteous (I lied for the first 2 years I was in GC) with her.

See I guess that’s where we differ when it comes to Daytime Drama. I’m a firm believer that everyone doesnt need to be connected to everyone to make a good Soap. Good writing makes a good soap. One of the things that many people always say about Soaps is “Oh they just repeat the same things over and over”, which I firmly believe. Agnes Nixon, Bill Bell, & Claire Labine created Storylines, they didnt just repeat something over and over. New characters are needed in order to give Veteran characters someone to interact with. At some point many of the characters that you wanna see, were new characters. I mean my grandmother still never got over the Brooks and Fosters being written out. But she eventually adapted.

Bill Bell kept innovating his shows all the time. When he wrote for Days, he wrote in and out so many different families, while always keeping the Horton family as the centerpiece. Bill Bell always brought in new characters, and they were not always connected to someone. But he always had a game plan. Which I think is the other problem with many soaps. They just plot this stuff as they go along with no long term plan, which is really the true issue.

I love EB, but seriously watching him do the same thing Ad Nauseam is tiring and frankly boring. The Nikki AA thing I totally understand, but it wasnt organic so it doesnt resonate with me. None of the beats were played out. When BB wrote this show, characters grew and learned. I watched 2 years in a row during Xmas where Victor learned something, only to have him repeat the same SL the following year. If u find that entertaining then great, but it just makes me tune out because I wanna see EB get back to pushing Story, not always being 2nd fiddle to everyone else’s Story. This man is crazy talented, and all he’s done for the past 10 years is be a busy body in other SL’s. The Victor Newman character is better than that.

And as u FF through the Winters, for me, they are right now the only thing keeping me even watching this trainwreck. But again, thats the great thing about Soaps. Everyone is gonna have a different opinion and love different characters. I’ve never found the Winters boring. I mean if we wrote off every character on a soap that someone found boring, then we wouldnt have a cast. U will take the machine cycle of Victor Newman, while I’ll take the Winters who to me are right now telling an actual SL with the Hillary, Neil, Devon situation.

LOL. I think I just want YR returned to having interesting, complex, layered Ensemble Storytelling. People were actually friends, people interacted, every family had their own SL’s but yet had time to work, go to great parties, lie, cheat, and scheme. This show had some of the most interesting Storytelling that had me hooked as a kid.

EB is so much better than the crap he is given. He hasnt had a proper SL in so long. Right now at this moment I miss Victor “The Great” Newman. This current version for the past few years is so annoying. Of course I would miss EB, just not what they’ve done to this character. I want EB driving Story like he did. Victor did so much more than just manipulate people. I mean for half the 90’s he wasnt even with Nikki and this man had SL’s of his own. Its like they cant write anything for him unless he’s meddling in someone else’s business. And I guess because it’s been every year, its just so tiresome now. So many blogs joke…Victor plots for 3 months, It blows up in his face for a few months, no one speaks to him for a few months, a crisis happens, and they make up cause of said crisis. Thats been EB’s SL for almost 10 years. Im like with all the history he has, cant they do something better. What do we have to do to get this show back on track. Both of Bill Bell’s shows are just terrible right now. I hate what’s happening.

And this show hasnt told a proper Business SL since the whole Glow By Jabot fiasco and the tainted cream. But that was Jack Smith and Kay Alden. How I wish 4 their return.

Wow thats a blast from the past. I MISS DOUGLAS. Victor has no friends whatsoever,now that u mention Douglas. How sad. They even got rid of my damn Miguel. He is so isolated from the rest of the show and cast. He never interacts with anyone not named Newman. Those Neil flashbacks made me remember that Newman Enterprise used to be more than just Victor’s office. Vikki had a office, Neil had a office, Nick had a office. This show is just….SIGH. I guess I need to let go of those memories cause it seems like thats all they will ever be.

Yes, but Mary, in my experience it’s always the grown child who lives far away from the family core who is always the perfect hero.
Mom always loves the child who isn’t there the most.