I think that if Sony or Jill or CBS came out and said, we’re handling things, etc. that would help. Even if they said, it’s an internal matter, blah blah blah, but to say nothing just flames the fire and the fire is outta control.

Meanwhile, I think the cast needs to stay off of Twitter, FB, etc.

Jill Phelps is an incompetent manager.She has damaged or destroyed more shows than I can count.Only in television is failure rewarded.A Megan McTavish or a Jean Passanante (these are only two egregious examples) can drive one show into the toilet and they are hired on another one.The stupidity of network executives would result in firing in any other business.Don’t get me started about the execrable Brian Frons.Katie Couric is what in the movie business was called “box office poison”but continues to go from one failure to the next continuing to earn millions of dollars.Jeff Zucker decimated NBC and is now paid obscene money to destroy a cable network.The television industry continues to insult the audience.

BETRAYAL! REVENGE! SCANDAL! No, im not talking about primetime series…im talking about Y&Rs new spinoff…’Behind the Scenes,!!!(original title: The ‘Wicked & The Witch’…depends which side your on) and its so much better than the original…lol

Oh its a big mess that’ for sure but IA that the cast/crew shouldn’t be subjected to the brunt of it. I can understand why Michael didn’t give any further statements. He’s been fired from his job so what can else is he suppose to say after already making statements re: his part …. he took his share of the blame. I’m just hoping that he didn’t lose his job because of an untruth. If he indeed did sexually harass that young lady and groped her then he deserves what he got. I’m just sorry I as a fan had to privy to this. I don’t know who leaked this out but it isn’t a good look all around.

All KSJ is doing is increasing his FB views. He needs to stop.

would like to see some positive for MM…lots of fans upset hes not on the show anymore, and lots of fans upset that the other actors are being rude to them. All shows need fans…just would like you to address this…thanks.

There are two reasons why this situation has exploded OUT OF CONTROL in my opinion.

A) Because everyone was already fed up with JP being there and her numerous, unwelcome, cast changes to give her friends jobs at the expense of the veterans. This was just the straw that broke the camel’s back.

AND

B) Because the cast themselves, not to mention the leaks coming from the people there, won’t shut up about it!

I think JP tried to use this situation to get herself out of the fans hot-seat and it back fired big time. This story was leaked for one reason only, and that was so no one would blame JP for MM leaving.

I think the actors have a right to state their opinions. I think some fans are too insensitive. I also think the show is not just one actor or one story. Eventually they will weather this storm but as any human knows…when you are in the middle of crisis, your instinct is to feel like it will never end. I must say though…from some things I have seen written by “fans”, I’m not so positive the police shouldn’t take note of some of the threats. I enjoy the show so I will simply watch, enjoy and sit on the sidelines and hope the best outcome for all involved happens when this has all blown over.

KSJ stated he wants this to stop, but then proceeded to compare the MM scandal to the LA Riots, and being in a war zone where the cast has to don flak jackets – the LA riots??, Really? – this story won’t end because every day somebody else throws another log on the fire – today was KSJ’s turn, I would suggest if the cast want to free themselves from the social media ‘war zone’ they simply turn off their computers and stop talking about this, then the fire will die out on its own – this is not the first Hollywood sex scandal and it won’t be the last.

It seems some of the cast are blaming the fans for the upheaval..

We the fans did not create this mess, it is not our mess.

The mess is the Y&R backyard, not with the fans.
Look at Sony/CBS, the Y&R betrayer leaking to TMZ, , and a couple of cast members who keep putting fuel to the fire..

Soap fans can be vicious, and yet full of love..
don’t blame us for the mess and don’t plead to us to fix it..

We didn’t want MM gone, and he was taken from us,,
you guys have to deal with that mistake, not us..

Some attorneys are having a field day planning their vacations & second homes on the fees they are getting out of this mess. I am sure on both sides (Sony/CBS & MM) they have been given gag orders. Too bad they didn’t do it sooner before some of the actors started commenting.

My prediction….unless she covered her ass in a major way….Ms. McDaniel is going to be job hunting soon. How many people do not think it was she who leaked that story to TMZ…both the general public or TPTB?

I feel sorry for both MM & HK regardless of the veracity of the story. They have both been tarred & feathered and ripped to shreds because of that TMZ story. MM was let go….people were upset. Then, that story comes out and cast begin commenting and all hell breaks loose.

We have all probably seen blind items about *stars* behavior….be it ego, drinking, drugs, attitude…..and we go, hmmm…..wonder who and move on. The constant attention to this by fellow castmates has done nothing but exacerbate the situation.

I don’t think KSJ meant to fan the flames….I get the feeling he is extremely frustrated by all parties involved and probably dreads going to that studio at the moment. He was unloading….but maybe should have hit that delete button.

As an aside….I find Michael Logan’s behavior as disgusting as anyone else’s. He is a journalist (supposedly) yet seems like a gleeful tyke with his snippy, “I know something you don’t” comments & twitter posts. Maybe time for him to step away from the keyboard as well.

Its over MM is gone, let its go now please!!!

He wants attention and a storyline so badly

Please, for the love of God, SHUT UP! Enough.

This situation that has come up reminds me of story a friend stated to years ago about EB (she was on the set at that time probably in the early nineties). She said she saw him ***king off in his dressing room with the door wide open & how it made her sick. So it seems to be some of the people criticizing MM have absolutely no room to speak…with some of the other situations mentioned in previous years written here & elsewhere…bandwagon jumping seems to occur to these individuals only when things are made public..as for social media…Social media doesn’t seem to have made our lives any better jmo….

KSJ makes a lot of good points. good for him for standing up for himself and his coworkers. The public needs to get a grip and but out of this work place situation. Commenting that it’s sad or they feel disappointed or supportive is fine espousing on a topic they really know nothing about is arrogant and inappropriate.

I hope the fans that have vowed to stop watching do just that. I have said it before and shall again, after nearly 40 years of viewing I will tune Y&R out and remove it from my DVR Effective January 31, 2014. CBS, SONY, and anyone else involved needs to witness a huge ratings dump after this entire senseless tactic. I literally despise JFP and dislike Jean Passanante almost as much. The actors from Y&R need not defend either of these individuals for my benefit it only adds fuel to the fire. KSJ is ridiculous for comparing this crap to the horrible LA riots. REALLY? Get Real KSJ no one was killed in your petty agenda dictated backstage drama. Appalling!

If KSJ wants the show to be saved, he best look the other direction at his bosses. Many viewers have/are waking up and unwilling to accept the craptastic content his bosses are serving up. The fans HAVE supported this show for 40 yrs, but now we are faced with the question of “What is the reward for our loyalty?” This is not the soap it once was and if it was better than it used to be then things would be different.

Poor Baby.
I don’t think any of us need to feel sorry for him, he’s doing just fine in that regard all on his own.

And now he blames the fans. He’s right to do so if people are being ugly to him or to others, which is so very easy to do on the internet. But if he’s blaming those who are asking WHAT HAPPENED, he’s misdirecting his anger. TPTB that leaked this are the ones he should be angry.
None of this would be happening if they’d just KEPT THEIR MOUTHS SHUT. Which is something he should be doing right now.
As to his seeming claim that cast members are all saints simply because of the longevity of their jobs, and those with less seniority, less “saintly”, that’s even sillier.

If TPTB won’t address the facts – which is their responsibiity since the leaks are their responsibility, then the cast should act with the class they find lacking in others online and just be quiet – or at the very least, refuse to respond to anything they find posted about this dustup.

His pity party isn’t doing him or the show any good.

And I, for one, find it more than a little peculiar that all this has happened since JFP took over the show. This isn’t the first show she’s been in charge of that has imploded on a personal level.

I would rather see the all the Newmans go with their pompass attitude like they own everything than see Adam go he came in a sicking role and was able to warm the hearts of fans and just then he is being let go what gives and where is redemption sorry but when there are no more Adam i certainly wont be watching or taping the show

O cry me a river– poor baby. If he thinks he is living in a war zone he should move somewhere where people are actually living in a war zone and then maybe he would stop the melodrama. Yes they all put into a chunk of time into the show, but you got PAID handsomely to do it. Some actors in Hollywood would LOVE to have a steady paying gig like KSTJ has.

What about fans– I have invested years myself in watching a show, for free, did not get paid to watch, and to see it torn to shreds by incompetent management is frustrating. A lot of the anger Y&R is getting right now isn’t reallly just about MM– his firing was the proverbial straw that broke the camel’s back. Fans have been frustrated for years and I think all of that pent up frustration is coming out in this time. Lately the cast has been blaming us the fans for all this– trying to manage us by feeding us spin— which is making it worse.

the fans have kept all of you in a decent job for years– so what you are sensing back stage is perhaps fear— realizing all of you could lose your nice jobs not just MM, if management doesn’t wake up and realize you don’t have a show if you alienate the fans away from the show– and you alienate us when you give us lame stories, you kill off legacy characters, you bring on newbies that make the show totally unrecognizable, and you can’t kept your talent happy and you lose them. But most of all you piss us off when you disrespect us by blaming us instead of accepting responsibility for all these blunders.
I don’t want to see the show cancelled either– but honestly I do hope this show loses its number one spot, then maybe, just maybe, someone at CBS or Sony will realized they have the wrong people managing this show and replace them with someone who knows this show, OR better yet, someone who knows who their fans are and what they really want. If GH can do it, so can you.

End of rant. Thank you.

But is it a sex scandal?? We don’t know the truth about what happened so everyone should just cease and desist spreading rumours and reacting on social media!! I hope for MM that it isn’t the truth ! My full support to HK if it is true!

While it’s admirable that Mr. St. John has spoken his piece and asked that fans be understanding, etc., other stars have soundly jumped onto the “Muhney must be wrong, King must be right” bandwagon without honestly knowing what happened, if anything.

ALL of this mess is because of an anonymous rumor started by a post on Soaps.com, and unless someone with some massive power, such as VP of Daytime Programming Angelica McDaniels, CBS President Steve Kent or even executive producer Jill Farren Phelps (whom, I’m sorry to say, most fans wouldn’t believe if they her do something with their own eyes) come out and give a statement, this is going to continue to fester and grow and just ruin Y&R and it’s wonderful, Bell-created 40-year image.

But then again, wasn’t that what Phelps was hired for? To “destroy” Y&R within a couple years? That’s what so many articles stated when she was hired on in August of 2012, and started her work in October of the same year.

Unless someone directly involved in this whole mess speaks out, either directly to the public or through a spokesperson (representative, attorney, whomever), it’s going to continue to grow and fester and roil. CBS, Sony and Y&R, seriously, need to end this by making some kind of statement themselves, not by asking their stars, who may be risking their own jobs/careers by doing so.
wolfy

Sorry.

Meant to say “Most fans wouldn’t believe her if they see her do something with their own eyes.”

My mistake in faster brain than fingers…
wolfy

I wish that Kristoff St. John and those other Y&R cast members would just SHUT UP ALREADY!!!!! They are N-O-T helping matters…at all.

why do they always have to bring in shakespeare? he wouldn’t have touched such petty transparent characters with a bargepole

Outside of Twitter, where is all this backlash and attacking taking place? How about the actors step away from social media and I’m sure this will die down. They’re all feeding it and allowing the “fans” to rile them up. Step away from the computers and phones folks at Y&R.

Memo to all actors at Y&R if you want to stop the madness in the words of Jesse Pinkman/Breaking Bad Yo Bitches shut up!!!!!

Folks my goodness its just a show, yes they let an actor go, big deal it happens all the time daytime or night time, WOW ……let’s move on!

Some of you make the actor who play Adam GOD, he was not the show, my goodness!

Personally, I believe that TPTB at Y&R/CBS/Sony are basking in the publicity and actually think it is going to draw more viewers to this flailing show. Too late, I believe. I think because of the way this has all been handled Y&R is now dead in the water and we will see it finally bite the dust before the year is over.

I do believe this nasty information was deliberately leaked to cause irreparable damage to Muhney’s career
A deliberate leak by a hateful insider, someone who really has a major bone to pick with MM. Management placed a gag order on two parties BUT not the other employees, fishy.
This underhanded, backdoor if you will, angle, is coming back in spades to hurt Y&R.
I’m sure the intention was to cover their butts when they fired him. A nice explanation, no problem, no consequences.
But viewers are upset, the show won’t be the same.
The girl will get work, but MM has been branded, I hope he is given another opportunity and learns to keep cool, chill, not to take things to heart, be professional, a paycheck is what is needed at the end of the day. He needs his next opportunity.
Hey, even felons are returned to society after doing their time. They are given a second chance. That is the way our civilised society works.

As for this thread, shove it KSJ.

PS
Michael and family, if you are reading this, all the best.

Let’s review:
“Fans” complain that information is being held from them when actors/producers/ won’t talk about this. But when someone from the show says something, fans are mad.

I agree that one or two actors have been unnecessarily rude in the way they have handled the Twitter comments. While I don’t agree with how one or two have responded, what do you expect? They are supposed to take constant attacks and just smile?

Everyone wants to know the gossip & juicy details but fail to realize that people from the show REALLY CAN get in trouble for sharing information. It’s easy for all of us to be arm chair quarterbacks… saying what needs to be done and how it should be done when we are not the ones actually having to deal with it.

I dont know where Kristoff St John is getting all this from, but you reap what you sow, if it is a war zone behind the scenes , I am glad to hear it. Oh by the way Kristoff you better hold on your hat, because you really are one of the characters who should be taken off. You not had a decent part since Driscilla died, when you come on the show I change the channel and go back when you are off, because you have no role, and these people like Eric, who plays the same lousy role over and over again just a little bit different each time arent you getting sick of it , god you are in your seventys. Melalnie Thomas Scott oh where do I begin, you were a wonderful actress years ago, forget it now, same old whinning parts, like victor just a little different.. Your brillant part now, all of a sudden you remember you had a child about 35yrs ago and go looking for it, how many other children do you have out there you had in the past.. You should be embrassed to keep playing the stupid parts, looking up to victor him kissing you on the cheek, omg sick.. There is only one man on the show I like and that is Jack the rest of you could all go away and get new people and no one would even know you were gone. So stop asking Michael to come how, why would he God he was fired why would why would he care, I just hope he got a real good lawyer, I dont know how this business goes but I pray there is something he can go.. A WAR ZONE YOU DONT KNOW WHAT A WAR ZONE IS IF US HIS FANS COULD FIGURE OUT HOW TO FIX ALL YOU TO GET HIM BACK!!!!!!! I never thought Michael was a quiet. stand offiish man, he is no wimp, I imagine he did speak up to Eric B. You are going to be sorry people if he dosent come back and it doesnt look like anyone behind the scenes is doing anything to make this right Gail P

I have never read such self indulgent nonsense in my life. Comparing the Y&R scandal to the LA riots? Kristoff takes narcissism to new lows.

I’m am not a fan of this actor. HOWEVER, I pretty much agree with his statement. The fans who have made his show #1 for 25 years are pissed off. He has to realize, we dont work on Y&R but WE to have invested years of viewing and are hurt by all the backstage drama that is going on. SOMEONE needs to stand up for the show, Sony, CBS, whomever and address this, put it to rest, recast, apologize and put he drama BACK into the SHOW!

yeah, lets compare a bunch of entitled spoiled actors and their backstage antics with the LA Riots.

I see the comparisone. Idiot.

Just shut up, the cast is making this worse.

how can MM or HK clear things up when they have had a gag order puut on them? EB the
bully Diva gets to malign anyone especially the talented..Great way to treat actors and fans

they to tell their actors to stop commenting on this story I believe their is more to this story then this if mm was so arrognant and bad as they say he was why didn’t they fire him before signing him to a new contract I believe all those castmembers speaking against mm didn’t like him kristoff st.john is showing all this support for hk but when Victoria rowell was being talked about and done the same way they are doing mm I didn’t see him or any of the cast members standing up for her it’s obvious you have to be a ass kisser on this show they don’t like people who speak their minds

I don’t like Kristoff St. John (Neil Winters) in Y&R. I consider him arrogant in the show. Now I know why. He is just playing himself.

St John is just trying to protect his job.

Acting is cut-throat work. MM and BM out shined all the other characters including EB and St John. Jealousy is a green eyed monster and it is clear St John is the color green. He should keep in mind that when you tick-off the fans you are putting a nail in your own coffin. If he, and the other characters, lecture the fans the viewers will just turn the show off. Then he can join MM and BM in the unemployment line.

i used to love this show in the days of snapper jill greg foster. and the actresses trish stewart, janice lynde pamela solow playing sisters. and jeanne cooper as mrs chancellor with brett halsey as phillip chancellor. then donnely rhodes as mr chancellor. those were good times watching this soap.