I agree, Timm.
It is fun watching Dr. FrankenVic’s monster turn on him.
If I were Victor I would tell Marco that he has left information in a safe deposit box which will reveal his true identity and which will be opened in the event of his death. I would not reveal to whom this safety deposit box was left to in order to protect that person.
Well, that is what I would do anyway.

I do agree with that, Timmm and Harry. I think it is interesting to watch the almighty Victor Newman being brought down a peg or two by the one whose life Victor “saved” from certain death….even worse, torture.
Nonetheless, I find the not-so-minor storylines revolving around Jack/Marco/Victor are not to be swept under the rug. Today, for instance, the scene/dialogue between Chelsea and Gabe/Adam was the most momentous yet. Hartley is such a superlative actor, I felt his pain, his regrets.
The question Chelsea posed…., ‘You lied about your identity, so, would you lie again to get what you want?”…..(paraphrasing). I don’t know, but to me, that was such a loaded, gripping question because that is exactly what Adam is doing. He knows how much she loves him; not just the memory of him and their life, but also the fact that she aches for her son’s lack of his Daddy. I ask; knowing all this, why can Adam not tell her the truth? Chelsea would never turn on him.
Thus, I can only surmise that, again, the writers are prolonging the non-existent suspense.
I would hope that after the Marco storyline is done, and both Victor, Marco, and Jack are dead,(lol) the truth surrounding Delia’s death emerges and Adam and his little family can go on with their lives. Too simplistic? LOL. Well, I’m a girl….I like looking at things with rose-colored lenses.

Since no one answered your question yet, I will– Sage was given a bequest from Constance in her will for being her personal assistant all those years. Since she was in love with the real Gabe and he suggested they get marry so he could get the estate as per the will, she agreed. But he died shortly thereafter trying to save Adam, so it was Sage who came up with the idea to replace Gabe with Adam– at that time she felt she deserved the money and without a Gabe she wouldn’t get her share of the big score.

She sprung the marriage thing on Adam only when he was about to leave, until then he had no idea about the arrangement Sage and the real Gabe had. Then Sage fell in love with Nick and suddenly the money wasn’t an issue, because Nick is super rich too right? So she ditched Adam/Gabe–she was the one who ended the marriage and blew his chance at the estate, not Adam; now she with Nick. Of course she is saying she doesn’t care about the money because she got some from Constance– which she does, but whatever she got it wasn’t as much as she could of have with Gabe/Adam, and definitely not as much as she will get as the mother of another Newman grandchild–

Can you tell, I think she a gold digger and never change her ways at all–LOL. Anyway I hope that clears it up for you.

@Mary SF, thank you, yes I see Sage for who she really is now!

Hey, Timmm.
Mary gave you a top-notch explanation. Except for one ‘minor’ detail. I firmly stand by my original belief; that is, the baby is Adam’s. Making this child Nick’s is just too easy, in my opinion.

Lily is amusing the hell out of me with her bitch on wheels act. I never cared for her and enjoy her playing the petulant, monstrous, spoiled brat. The actress is terrible which only fuels the comedic appeal of her tantrums.

Maybe so, Harry. Lily does rub me the wrong way, also. However, she has every right to act the bitch, in this instance. She is up against the town floozy. If you remember, Cain went berserk when Tyler and Lily kissed. It is only natural to go-over-the-top-mad. I would have done something much worse to my husband than scream at him…LOL.

Oh absolutely, Cee Cee. Lily has every right to be in a state of abject fury! If you are a woman, and you befriend and become close to a married man, you damn well better befriend and be close to the wife. That’s cardinal rule Lauren is breaking and Colin is too soft to assert his boundaries with her. However, even before this odd friendship, Lily was acting like a shrew when it came to trusting Cane. And she isn’t playing this very wisely. The public temper tantrum she threw in her place of business was just stupid and immature. Hasn’t she ever heard of a self-fulfilling prophesy? She gets to be angry but she doesn’t get to play her hand so badly.
And suddenly she is running around in a God-awful ugly jumpsuit which looks like the 80’s threw up all over it.
Yes, Lily is justified this time. However, I just get a big ole grin on my face when she starts stomping her feet while ranting and raving. More please.

@Harr.
Lol, Harry. You have such a knck…no, wait…it’s more of a gift, for putting things in perspective making accept anything you say. And, so funny, you leave me speechless. Lily is a shrew, alright! I liked her better with Daniel.
What I came away from yesterday’s episode, though……in a profile shot, I noticed that Christel/Lily had herself a nose job…..lol….look closely, Harry. That bumpy hook just vanished. Looks good.

@Harry….looks like I’m missing some letters in my last post…sorry…in a hurry. My little whirlwind, munchkin son is home from school. LOL.

Ashley recovering overnight from brain surgery was ridiculous. NOBODY does that. They didn’t even shave her hair at the surgical spot.
Someone really dropped the ball on that one.

@Sammie.
Oh, you’re right about that. I was always under the impression that writers always used some medical reference when any illness is involved. There is always a period of convalescence after any surgery….some more than others…depending on the surgery and the healing process of the patient. But this? And why? What purpose did this sudden malady and surgery serve?
Nothing makes sense to me. One of our fellow-posters indicated that it was an aneurism….almost dismissing the life-threatening incident . It does not matter , it is still brain surgery. No one gets discharged the morning after. NO ONE. There is a certain protocol to be followed.You know?
Then, there’s Jake and his double…..even if Marco and Jack look exactly the same, down to their toenails, this does not include having the same gestures and traits. Jack does that ugly thing with his bottom lip…sucks it in when angry. Well, so does Marco. Some of these characteristics are acquired, on inherited. What, they acquired the same characteristics living miles and miles away from each other?
The writers do not think things through…they’re like children trying their hand in writing their first story for Teacher….sorry, I do go on and on and on…

Lol, Su. Just ‘gotta’ love-ya!!

ITA, I love what pratt is doing, there’s been some missteps but nothing like the previous writers.
Sharon popping up pregnant is hysterical, she’s just jealous that Sage is preggers and moved in with Nick.
She will either be going through menopause or she is working a plot and may steal Sage’s baby, she’s not really pregnant, bet on it.
That DNA lab sure gets a lot of business from the two families. lol

Lol, Harry. Destoyevsky does hit the proverbial nail on the head….never misses.
I think a perfect mate for Jack would be Daisy Duke/Anita/Catherine Bach.
Jack has a son in his forties (Kemo), for goodness sake!!
I am sure Peter is uncomfortable playing these youthful roles…..it is the writers who should know better!

I loved that too! Kyle is snotty rich kid. I really cracked up when he smacked him the second time. lol

Yeah, a really big ‘shew’. Such a big story, it missed its mark….left me with a bitter taste in my mouth…love your very fitting sarcasm, Su. LOL…..Good, little post.

Thank you Cee Cee!! I’m no ageist but come on Pratt, and all Y&R writers before him-PB is 62 years old & they write him like a horny teen!! Just months ago he was sexing up Kelly, (CM 45) on his couch at Jabot & running home to Phyllis (GT 41). Now 1 Jack wasn’t enough for Pratt so he writes him as Marco, intl drug lord, complete w/flashbacks of Marco with a mustache boinking a young girl named Marisa (according to IMDB the actress was born 7/31/89 which makes her 25!!) and now he is hitting on Chelsea (MEG 34)!!

This will probably get deleted but Peter’s peter must be very tired!!

Lol, Linda….love your post. Thankfully it did not get ‘eaten’ by the moderator pulverizers.
My sentiments exactly! As a matter of fact, Peter and other young, hunky men, appeared on one of the talk shows (I can’t remember which). Said soap actors, as guests, supposedly represented THE HUNKIEST MEN ON DAYTIME. I was blown away when I saw Peter as one of the ‘hunky’ panel. WHAAAAAT!!??!!??
At this point in his life, Peter’s youthful and ebullient romantic career should be given its last rites.
Settle him down, writers! Give him a respectful role that is his due….starting with a wife his own age.

@Laurie.
I could not resist…..Marco told Phyllis he loved another woman a lifetime ago, having met her in S. America as he was doing work for his presumed father, John Abbot. Yikes!!!! Manuela???
Well, the girl/woman was not even born a lifetime ago. Peter is passed his prime. He is no stud.

LOL … CeeCee and Laurie – I needed a good laugh today!

@abruzzfan.
LOL…I am glad Laurie and I put a smile on your face and laughter in your heart. We all need a dose of that. Ciao.

I agree with all of you, and guess what? I would wager Peter Bergman agrees with you too. He cannot be happy being romantically paired up with a girl almost forty years younger than he is.
If you read his interviews where he speaks lovingly of his wife to whom he’s been married for over thirty years, you will see he’s really a gentleman who is not at all full of himself.
I don’t think he likes this one bit and it probably makes him uncomfortable.

If she truly KNEW her husband, there would have been no rape, as it is, the rape is mutual.
Remember when Jack couldn’t tell that the lady dr, Emily or whatever, was really crazypants patty! lol

Sammie your so right. I forgot about the lady doctor. Her name was Emily wasn’t it.

As I said they are lots things to complain about this story, and you hit on a number of them. I agree Victor being upset Jack is dead is bit lame– of course he could be upset like a cat is upset when the mouse it was “playing” with dies because it stopped moving and is no longer fun to flip in air, rather than empathy over the death of the creature it was tormenting. Victor used to accuse Adam of being a psychopath, but I have to wonder if Victor isn’t one himself, because he seems to have no conscience or empathy for those he goes after.
However I disagree with the notion that Pratt is being more shocking than previous writers– I find this is just a redo of the whole Patty Williams looking like Jack’s girlfriend story– and that one was a lot better and believable than this one. For example, Paul stated that there were no pictures of this drug lord- that the FBI, didn’t have a clue what he looked like, yet Victor somehow knew this drug lord was a dead ringer for Jack– I mean how the hell did he find that out if there were no pictures?

As for the age difference between Marco and his girlfriend that is par for the course- ageism is alive and well in Hollywood. It is okay for men to get older, but not the women. If she was his lover years ago, what was she 13 at the time– of course the actress could be older than she looks, but still, there are lots of beautiful older Latino ladies who could have played her.

Everything you said, and then some, Laurie. If Pratt’s intention is to shock? Well, I can accept that, but, do it in a credible and entertaining way. I, personally, do not find this storyline interesting…not one bit. Perhaps if Peter’s character(s) were played by a different, younger actor, the storyline would be more ‘passable’.
As Mary has so eloquently stated, ageism has no meaning in Hollywood, especially when the man is much older. But, this is a soap existing in the Mid-West, and not too realistic. As I stated, a lifetime ago for Marco is certainly not the same lifetime as Manuela’s.
As far as ageism is concerned? Well, some women are fine becoming intimate with old men…..I could not, “lay, lady, lay…” with an old man for all the money in the world. I would actually, literally vomit. Think Larry King! Think Hugh Hefner!! Think J Howard Marshall!! It’s like scraping/raking fingernails on the blackboard..
N.B., Laurie…the above comment was meant for you, but I accidentally addressed it to Linda…sorry, for the confusion.

Aside from the girl’s age, this character is really not needed!

Hey.. I’m luvin Marco!!
I like the character, he doesn’t bore me for one thing .. 🙂
about time Y&R got a drama boost !

Yes Laurie there is something for everyone on the show. I bet you like the Marco scenes because thats how Jack SHOULD react to Victor’s bullying!

Oh and one more thing I had a relative with a brain tumor. Surgery is not that quick, your head is shaved & wrapped, and your not out going to business meetings the following day.

Love Det. Harding, hopefully those kids are dead and the tumor story is the worst!

Well to be fair she didn’t have a brain tumor it was a brain aneurysm, which is basically a blood vessel that is about to burst. Not sure of the procedure for that one , but I agree her recovery was too quick to be realistic, and it was such a pointless plot point– it came out no where, and then it was over— really silly in my books. And on a soap you never know who is really dead or not, but I believe those two characters are dead, killed by Marco because Austin when filming his doc capture images of two Jacks being in the park that night, and then Courtney saw the same images.

LOL, again…I do not know why I keep referring to Marco as Bruno….I must pursue this. I don’t even know anyone by that name….hmmmm.

My dear CeeCee, my post said “People” bitching, not you specifically. Regardless, EVERYONE including me bitches about this story or that one, this character or that one, its what makes this site so much fun! I rarely get offended by others comments. I simply see so many inaccuracies on soaps that I just take them with a grain of salt. You make so many valid points about the Jack / Bruno [Just kidding] storyline but I like Peter and he can handle the silly material. I am entertained. I told you once before in a world where there is so much brutality and sexual judgement in the real world EVERYDAY, I like an escape and Y&R gives that to me. Peace and Love, Timmm!

@Timmm.
Thank you for your response, Timmm. I know you were speaking collectively, I am just one of the many who bitch…for good reason…LOL. most importantly, dearest, Timmm….in no way have I taken offense..?Especially from you, Timmm. I am very fond of you and I know you would never throw stones my way.
As yourself, I too love Y&R…. Not Jack/Marco or Victor, particularly….but, they are necessary evils…..and, where there’s good, there must also be evil.
Peace and love right back ‘atcha’….

Timm, my favorite part of your post was this:”Will Summer ever shut up? Stay tuned.”
That made my day.
She is driving me nuts and we all know that is a short drive for me. She was whining to her mother, to her sister and to Kyle that she feels stuck in the middle of the Abbott/Newman family feud. Then she proceeds to insert herself right smack dab in the middle of the aforementioned feud by spying on the Abbotts and by engaging in some kind of whinerboard torturing of Kyle in order to pry secrets from him. Then she runs off and tells Grandpa Mustache everything she learned. She not only gets off being in the middle, she thrives on it and goes out of her way to keep herself in that position.

Noah’s her son so yeck. Forgot about that for a sec.

I was thinking Victor’s children. I forgot Abby was his daughter.

Lol, Mo. Yeah, Noah is Sharon’s son. Would that stop the writers? Anything is possible…Lordy, Lord, help us!!!!

Because they couldn’t FF in the 70’s.

@4ever.
I am sure Timmm is being sarcastic, 4ever. He knows there was no FF in the 70’s….
It is just Timmm’s particular, witty humor…LOL.