General Hospital
GENERAL HOSPITAL: Laura and Holly Have a Heart-to-Heart Chat!
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On Tuesday’s General Hospital, Laura Spencer (Genie Francis) and Holly Sutton (Emma Samms) finally had a moment where the two women who gave birth to Luke’s children, hashed out what happened in the past, when Holly had sex with Luke and became pregnant with Ethan (Nathan Parsons), while Luke was married to Laura as related on yesterday’s episode.
Later, the kidnapper reveals he has a photo of a duct taped and held hostage Ethan and Lucky (Jonathan Jackson), which the women see first and then share with Luke. (Anthony Geary)
Genie Francis and Emma Samms throughout their entire General Hospital history never had a moment where the two discussed Holly becoming pregnant with Luke’s child. And the two actresses were happy to have this scene together.
There was also a line in the script about Holly’s relationship to Luke’s cousin Bill Eckert, and a small Twitter controversy erupted because of it. Then, head writer Ron Carlivati made clear to fans that in the script it had been written that Holly did know Bill Eckert, but when the episode aired, the line in the script had been changed, and he did not why.
Later, in an effort to clear the air Emma Samms tweeted that it had nothing to do with the head writer and his team re-writing history, but that she and Tony Geary changed the line. Samms tweeted: “Big confession re GH. Tony & I couldn’t remember the Bill/Holly thing so changed line. NOT fault of @carlivatiron or @valentinifrank”
All in all it was great to see Genie Francis and Emma Samms share a heart-to-heart moment about loving Luke Spencer and the pain, yet love, they have experienced from their relationships with this complicated man.
What did you think of the scenes between Laura and Holly? Comment below!
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Huh!? I guess actors get busy over the years and forget what characters they plays long ago did, maybe, but I remember the Billy and Holly taking up a lot of the summer of 1991. I guess they also forgot that Holly was present when Luke and Laura announced they were expecting Lucky.
HUH? Is right, Justin.
Moreover, why the heck didn’t they re shoot the scene? It wasn’t live television. The whole thing is a head scratcher.
It’s possible that Tony Geary refused to re shoot the scene.
I think working with Tony Geary again, years later when he returned, would be something an actor would remember. You would think by now TPTB at GH would have discovered General Hospital Wiki and Youtube. I guess when Emma decided to go off script, they had no way to verify who was right, her or RC. Maybe they tried to call him and he was at the movies and had his cell off. That must be it. I’m waiting for Genie’s tweet that she changed the script to Holly not knowing Luke had a son and was married. RC must… Read more »
Shame on everybody involved, including Emma Samms. It was 1992, not 1892.
I distinctly remember a scene where they both agreed to have HIV tests before consenting to sex with one another.
Loved Laura and Holly having the heart-to-heart. Genie and Emma really made it that much better. And on the other network, also thought how Maya and and Caroline mended fences was very well done.
I know everyone has their opinion and need to vent, but it get’s really boring to hear all of the naysaying and bickering repeated again and again. I’m a longtime viewer of GH, but somehow I’ve forgotten, or missed some of the details. I’m just happy that for the most part I am enjoying this finale…so far. And as a suggestion to some others, get over it and smell what rose time that we have with Luke, Laura and Holly together. P.S. Agree with JimL about Franco’s scenes with Dr. O. They have fun chemistry with each other.
Holly was in Texas with Luke, Laura, Sean, Frisco, Felicia and Robert in late 1984 when Luke announced that Laura was having a baby so to see her saying that she didn’t know Luke and Laura were married or that they had Lucky was ludicrous, and frankly, insulting to longtime fans of the show. Also, Holly wasn’t quite presumed dead yet, depending on what time of the year it was in 1986 when she conceived Ethan, so either she was actually still married to Robert or had gotten into the car accident and was already in a coma so Guza’s… Read more »
Thing is.. The actors are not involved as the fans are.. They act their scenes go home and have a beer or ice cream and forget about it.. Fans hold onto near every moment the Actors do not.. A scene where someone dies of whatever.. It affects the fans to cry and all sorts of emotions, the actors job is done they go home and it’s over.. I can see how after decades and thousands of scripts they would forget.. They are actors not same as the fans.. they don’t carry the emotions with them for decades over a story… Read more »
Good Lord, Suoo–honestly? We are not just talking about the fans’ knowledge of history, we are talking about the script writers, the directors, the producers. Holly had an on going affair with Bill Eckert–she choose him over Mac Scorpio and they lived together in Bill’s lighthouse. Bill and Holy were a front burner storyline which lasted many months. Finally, Emma Samms is being very gracious and sacrificial in blaming herself for this horrible and glaring mistake. Just once can you EVER call TPTB on their mistakes? If Emma Samms honestly did rewrite the lines (which is completely implausible) then why… Read more »
Harry, RC tweeted a pic of the actual script from the show with the dialogue the way it was originally written, and unless you believe it’s a fake, then Emma definitely changed the dialogue as she said. You can see it for yourself here: Personally, the whole Holly/Bill thing was before my time of watching GH, so it doesn’t mean anything to me. To me, it’s one line of dialogue in a 36 minute show that I didn’t notice. But I can understand the long time viewers picking up on it. And it was a bad mistake to let slip… Read more »
Well said Harry. Another thought i have is that if Tony and Emma decided to re-write the line (or re-write history), A – how do actors get that much power, and B – thanks for slapping your long-time viewers in the face. I’m sadly realizing i invested way too many years into this show.
But Dan, it doesn’t work that way. Emma would not have changed the dialogue due to her memory lapse. She would have just trusted the head writer. Her explanation is an attempt at damage control and this attempt only made things worse. I love Emma Samms–she is a real sweetheart who threw herself under the bus for the sake of Ron and maybe Frank. I am not blaming Ron either but the whole thing just reeks. Moreover, Emma would never have changed the dialogue on her own. Tony Geary might have been capable of such, but since this exchange transpired… Read more »
su0000…sorry, but what you wrote shows a total lack of understanding and the importance of continuity, whether it be in a film and its sequel, a spinoff of a TV show, a series of a particular novel…or a soap opera. If the actor is truly invested in his character, he or she will care. So will the writers. If continuity didn’t matter, Superman, whose weakness is kryptonite would never have heard of it or harmed by it. Clark Kent, Lois and Jimmy who all work together at the newspaper…would act like they never knew each other if they ever met… Read more »
Ana, you are correct: “insulting to longtime fans of the show.”
And this is supposed to be the “sendoff of all sendoffs” for TG? Not so much.
And this is supposed to be the “welcome back” for Genie Francis? Not at all!
Yes, that’s the very least they could day. But there is a massive evidence piling up that TPTB simply do not care–not for the longtime fans, certainly, nor for the actors.
It threw the whole scene off! Stop changing the lines thanks
Agreed, otherwise, it would have been quite moving.
One line about Holly and Bill…no big deal to me if they change history or not…show is a bit of a mess anyway but yesterdays and todays eps. have been ok…a little better than expected…not a Franco fan but he works best when in scenes with Dr.O…jmo!!!
Roger has definitely been better of late. He’s displayed more charm in his last few scenes, with Dr. O in a comical sense and with Kiki in a more human/softer side. I wish they’d develop his character, though I’m not sure where they can take him. They have to either completely distance him from the lunatic he once was when he was the James Franco character, or bring him back there. Right now, he isn’t formed. He has no ties. I actually think he and Dr. O would be a good couple…she’s only about ten years older than him…and while… Read more »
I liked Holly better than Laura.. Holly seemed better suited with Luke.. The story is picking up, that is good.. I want Luke to go to out in a big bang.. To die the way he lived that would be befitting and righteous .. In the promo I paused the man that Holly was shooting/going to shoot/whatever and I did not recognize him.. There are 26 days left to the final scene, much yet to come.. Looking forward to Tony’s exist story but yet I’m not looking forward to it.. I and my friends had a hard laugh while reading… Read more »
wow Su0000 you liked holly better than laura. I’m so shocked! Why do you hate Genie Francis?
I do not hate anyone…
where do people come up with hate for a character that is not a real person..
I have no feelings towards Genie.. I do not personally know her,I feel nothing towards Genie..
It’s the Laura character she irritates me..
I like Holly better with Luke..
Nobody likes every character and some people dislike more than a few characters, they have hate lists ahha! ..
I have only 3 irritants out of 2 soaps.. may be 4 soon lol ..
Those scenes were all kinds of messed up yesterday. I’m blown away that no one in editing could have picked up the fact that Holly mentioned she didn’t know Bill. They had a freaking relationship!! Furthermore, I’m surprised that Laura would even have to ask that question. Holly had previously left town before Bill was shot dead – which was when L&L returned. One would think that maybe someone like Aunt Ruby would tell the two of them, “Hey, your look-a-like cousin Bill actually had a relationship with your ex-Holly”, especially considering that Ruby was around during that time frame… Read more »
Furthermore, I’m speculative about the whole Emma and Tony forgetting what happened. They were both screen partners during the Bill and Holly storyline, so how could both of them forget that? Sounds fishy to me.
Liam,
you do realize decades have past and thousands and thousands of scripts have been remembered for the day and forgotten..
The fans may recall but the actors are doing a job, acting..
What a fan could recall and what actors 30 years/whatever time later would recall are totally two different worlds lol ..
They are actors portraying characters they are not the characters to recall anything would be amazing LOL ..
You bet!
I dont like messing with history because it makes us feel like we wasted our time investing into that particular era but having said that, its a soap and they always have and always will ask us to expand our memories and not obsess over detail so yeah, I loved Laura and Holly acting together. It was cool and there will be more to come. Maybe Holly can come back to PC and share a house, oh I’m sorry, residents only live in hotel rooms, share a hotel suite with Laura? They should open a diner and call it Lolly’s!
LOL Timmm!!! Lolly’s, I love it!
LOL…what Dan said!
Luke and Laura was a love story a great soap thing.. Tony and Genie are not actually Luke and Laura they portray the characters, they are actors getting paid to act the scenes.. The fans hold onto some scenes like it’s gold, the actors do not. Actors at the end of the go home leave the day behind them.. The fans talk about it, feel it for days after (some hold onto it for 30 years lol actors don’t remember those scripts, scenes, they move on to the next script.. A mistake was made, they, not RC, moved on ..… Read more »
Maybe they did not want to remember since the whole Bill Eckert storyline was a bust and Tony was begging Genie to come back to the show and we have that on interviews on You Tube if you doubt me.
Holly didn’t say that she didn’t know Luke and Laura WERE married, she said she didn’t know whether he was currently married when they met up in Hong Kong years later. Perhaps he was in Fluke mode and gave her the impression that he was a free man. I’m thinking that there’s something to Holly’s subterfuge here. Maybe she’s being made to go along with the kidnapper’s plans? Maybe she’s in on it? It would be very unlike Carlivati to radically change history like that.
Mfarris, like SUoo, you are woefully unaware of GH’s history. In fact, Holly said she did not know that Luke and Laura had a child together.
Luke and Laura announced their pregnancy to Robert and Holly way back in 84.
And boy are you wrong when you say it would be unlike Carlivati to change GH history. Oh my God, are you wrong.
Not unlike them at all: just view the 52nd anniversary show where they completely violated the character of Luke Spencer.
It was a mistake Emma made.. It has nothing to with history being wrongly written. It was forgotten and spoken incorrectly. It was quickly explained on RC, Emma, and others twitters.. The twitters told how it happened and why it happened and that it was a mistake Emma made.. This is on Emma not RC, she forgot what happened back then and the script. Tony commented on Emma’s twitter about it looks they both forgot those days 30 years past LOL .. She punted her lines.. It was a mistake, everything is moving forward and I’m excited for the next… Read more »
Mainly fiction, from Holly’s side. She told a different story from Luke. She said they “spend a weekend together,” with no mention of impending danger or doom. Luke said they had a moment when they thought they might die and it happened. Also, Holly said she “didn’t know Luke was married.”(!). That she “didn’t ask” and he “didn’t say.” How crazy is that! Holly was in Port Charles when Laura “came back from the dead.” She and Laura talked and they became friends. And she certainly know that Luke had a son. She would have had to be deaf and… Read more »
Perhaps the reason Tony Geary, in his scenes, hardly glanced at Genie and showed no emotion is because as far as he is concerned Luke and Laura’s relationship is a thing of the past. It is over! Luke made it very clear in his conversation with Dillon. Dillon: What about my mother? She’s gonna need more than an explanation and an apology. She’s gonna want to know why she wasn’t brought in on this from the start. And when you answer, it’s probably not gonna be good enough. Luke: Truer words, Spielberg. Look, I love your mother. I hate that… Read more »
I saw the scene. That’s why I made my comment. You are just making my point. Poor Genie. I say it again. Poor Genie. RC said: “We are telling the love story of Luke and Tracy.” Again, I say, HUH? I thought “we” were also bringing about a legacy character. Again, I say: Poor Genie.” So Fluke “loves” Tracy. I get it. But surely, after all the years of acting with Genie, he could afford her some respect. He could ,at the very least, afford her the courtesy of at least looking at her when he says a line to… Read more »
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Geary cracked that he won’t miss watching video of Luke’s wedding to Laura in 1981.
(At an astonishing 30 million, the nuptials remain the most-watched episode in daytime history.)
“It was 33 years ago, people,” Geary quipped… “For Christ’s sake, let it go.”
I agree with Tony-
“For Christ’s sake, let it go.”
LOL 🙂
Yes, Nancy, I feel the same way. I did enjoy the Laura and Holly scenes but really do not appreciate the rewrites these characters have gone through over the years. As for Luke…he really has treated the “loves of his life” pretty shabbily so if I were Tracy I would shut him down cold. These ladies deserve better – especially Laura/Genie. Luke and Laura should have been the end game – end of story.
Yes, I agree with you, Les.
Nancy, I doubt Genie’s eyes were ” glistening” with tears because of what Emma said…I think Laura’s eyes were glistening because of what Holly said. Right or wrong she played Laura…her eyes were always the window to her soul…and I saw in that moment resignation, forgiveness and perhaps relief that she had moved on from the hurt as the two women acknowledged their one-time love for Luke Spencer.
All nit-picking aside… I much preferred watching these two gracious,
lovely ladies having a reasonable tête-à-tête. As opposed to witnessing
Denise’s endless screeching…BRING BACK AVA‼️‼️ Lulu’s non-stop
waffling should I, shouldn’t I tell Dante what’s really going on…YES U
SHOULD BEFORE ITS TOO LATE‼️ Valerie playing the innocent
ingenue…As if❗️Nina needs to wake up and smell the SUBTERFUGE‼️
And where oh where has the real Tracy gone? Where’s the FIGHT, the
kick A– attitude & determination she’s known for…
True Harry…they could ease up a bit on Holly’s MAX FACTOR…
Emma is so beautiful she doesn’t need much, less is more.
Genie has brought it home in the last few scenes, just like I
knew she could given the chance. Genie looks FANTASTIC❗️
So glad she’s home.
Agree, especially about the makeup.
Amen Fanny! I cannot stand DAnise! What a waste with Maura. Sonny is a foot away from her and doesnt know its Ava? BS! Why doesnt he just pull off that god awful wig and be done with it!
@Timmm..For a split second there I thought Sonny might actually
pull and tug at it… I’m pretty surprised no one else has questioned
the hair. Maybe their saving it for Franco or Morgan to discover…
I loved the scenes with Laura and Holly. They could be bitter enemies over Luke, but they are dealing with the situation in a mature way. I am sadly dealing with these last few weeks of Tony Geary, and I enjoy Genie Francis and Emma Samms, so I could care less about blips in the backstory. Who cares if Holly knew Bill? It is a tv show. I’m just enjoying the moments of entertainment.
I guess (for me, at least) it’s because Holly more than “knew” Bill, as in “knew him in passing” or something like that. They had a substantial romantic relationship; I don’t remember why it went sour exactly, but Holly’s last scene (for that round; of course she’s been back to GH several times since that departure) was her on a ship relishing the fact that she’d pulled off some scam (I have the vague sense that it had to do with art) that was going to hurt Bill, as he’d hurt her. So for her to say she didn’t know… Read more »
I truly believe everything about the Holly Luke Laura debacle is crazy. That includes (sorry), a portion of this article that insinuates, that after decades, it is time for Laura and Holly to clear the air. Duh…after decades? Hell, the audience, just like Laura, only found out about Ethan in 2009. Has everyone forgotten this huge aspect of this story? If so, I guess TPTB have accomplished their goal.
She knew Luke and laura had Lucky and were pregnant with Lucky!! What is the time line of Holly getting pregnant with ethan? She was presumed Dead and came back in 1991. Did Luke know she was still alive? Rewriting important history is rude and distracting.
History was not rewritten..
It was forgotten by Emma, she also forgot the script/lines and she punted her lines, and that is what changed the history.. 🙂
That has been publicly explained to the fans, many times.
It’s Tony’s exit.. just enjoy it it will be good..
I can’t wait to see who will be shot and live or die..
I hope Tony dies by the way he lived !! gangsta style!
and Tony and Tracy’s last moments!
It will be sad 🙁
Su00, stop with the spin job.
This was NOT Emma’s mistake–she was making a cameo appearance and she would never had presumed to rewrite the lines.
She might not have, Harry, but if she consulted TG, as she said, and he said to the director (or whoever) “rewrite the line, it didn’t happen,” well . . . I’m amazed that the two of them couldn’t remember an entire relationship that took up substantial screen time in the early 90s, but I don’t think it’s impossible.
su0000, things get “explained to the fans, many times”—and turn out later to be total lies. The skepticism of Harry and others is certainly justified (though in this case, I’m not having so much trouble believing ES’s explanation).
I do not believe for one moment that Emma forgot the script/lines–or that she “punted her lines.” I give her credit for being the consummate professional.
The “mistake” rests solely on the shoulders of TPTB.
Aren’t you a fan?
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It means way more to the fans than with the actors..
It is a job with the actors, the love story is with the fans..
Luke and Genie were not a couple they don’t have to love each other.. lol
but- I do believe they are friends..
Luke/Tony and Jane/Tracy are real life very close friends..
Su0000: Are you saying that because it means something more to the fans, but not so much to the actors, that it’s somehow less valid? Luke and Laura were never my big faves, but my goodness, they were a huge part of this show’s history, and a huge part of the reason why it still has enough of a ratings base to stay on the air (when many other soaps that were airing at the time have bitten the dust). Given that TG is leaving, I don’t think it’s such an unreasonable thing for the long-time fans to expect Laura… Read more »
Um…SU00, you have been watching GH for about two minutes now. We have all read this interview time and time again and it’s pointless to keep dwelling on it. You act as if someone is arguing with you–you remind me of one of those bag ladies I see on the street having a fight with themselves. I do not understand why you feel compelled to come in here again and again just to tell veteran viewers that Luke and Laura are obsolete. It’s an odd vendetta you harbor–it’s like being mad at the wind for being windy. We all love… Read more »
Harry, per usual, you stated it beautifully–and I, of course, agree with you.
Harry…as one MF friend to another…just relax about Su. Everything in me tells me she loves getting people like you into a snit. We all know she’s a cheerleader for anything GH as she sees it. If GH was a baseball team I’m sure they would give her free admission. And if you walked into my bookstore I’d sell you and adult coloring book to help with the Su stress, and as a by-product, to just enjoy yourself. Don’t laugh, they are the hottest fun thing in the market right now. Imagine this…allowing adults to color again.
I’ve read many of the comments posted regarding this scene and it’s more than a little bit disheartening to see so much negativity and vitriol written about a show (by its so-called fans) that I’ve loved dearly for so many years. To all of the naysayers I say turn off the TV or choose to do what I do: look at the glass as being half full. I, too, have issues with the overall quality of the writing on this program but the gift that was given to us in this scene … Genie Francis & Emma Samms delivering exquisite… Read more »
If the time TG and GF were together is Luke and Laura was not a favorite time in TG’s life and he doesn’t feel it represents him as an actor then he is either falling back on his ability as a pathological liar or he is bitter. Something is wrong with this “picture”. Pun intended.
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