hi CeeCee 🙂
Back to school!… exciting!!!

and- you never know. the writers may make your wish come true/Nina, Kiki mother & daughter…
I do see Kiki and Franco going back to a father & daughter relationship.

I keep thinking and hoping that Kiki is Nina’s child also.

Mandy-
Franco is one of GH best characters,,’He is a sweetie with a hidden mystery..
All the soap critics have given Franco/Roger praise.
You should the read Franco/Roger article in Soap Digest, and the tweets are luvin Rogers Franco to pieces 🙂
Roger is going nowhere, he is indeed gold ..

Does Franco have a job? Does he have anything better to do with his time then to placate all the crazy women in his life?
Where does he live? He seems to inhabit the same island which Silas inhabited and look what happened to him.

Not necessarily Monsieur Timmm! Liz gets points because she’s almost twenty years older…so in actuality it’s pretty amazing that her skin is still flawless at almost 40! Both actresses are adorable…but Haley’s got this round full face like butta! Lol…not necessarily because of her age…Molly, though very pretty, doesn’t have the porcelain doll look. Lucky girls…

hey CeeCee,
since Sonny has had baby Avery he has been like a teenager in love ahaa!
And he is all gigglyjiggly over Carly and their wedding ..
He is all lite up, his facial expressions are cute .. lol

Which is very soapy!

Seems Michael and Kiki split when Chad’s real life girlfriend, Kristen, left the show. Maybe he didnt want to be in a relationship at that moment. Not sure he has any say so BUT if he did, be careful what you wish for, no hot new Kiki and now he is slurping Sappies! Eww! I love the name Lauren Quartermaine! Maybe Ava will take out the Sapinator and Michael will run back to Kiki?

Michelle Stafford is talented BUT the character is horrible! Just like Roger Howarth, love him, hate Freako!

Maybe ElChoppo will head to Amsterdam to visit Uncle Luke permanently! Lulu will find her way with Dumbte but I hope its with Julie Berman!

See ya Shayster!

Ahh, Shay. I think I feel comfortable and confident enough with our online strong friendship to disagree with you. We both know that we will never agree when it comes to Nina…..at least we agree to disagree. It all really comes down to the fact that you never took to Michelle, just as I never took to Donna.
But, to blame Rick’s and MadMaddie’s comportment and diabolical scheming on Nina? Do you really think most viewers do not like Michelle. She is taking direction….she is acting as what is expected of her. She has no choice. She is a seasoned, well-respected actress.
Furthermore, I do not think most viewers saw Nina as the problem. I did not dub Madeline with MadMaddie without a well-founded reason. Nina has been an heiress from birth. She was a baby whose personality was borne through her upbringing …..a child is at his/her parents’ mercy. Nina was emotionally abused by her mother….I pegged MadMaddie right from the beginning. The problem was never Nina. She has been the victim of her-Grendel-like-mother without no fault of hers. As I said before, being in a come for half her life spared her from her mother’s cruelty…..she is the product of her environment. In reality, what child wants to feel the sting of one’s mother’s resentment ? The problem was/is not Nina. The problem has always been MadMaddie’s greed, later reinforced by Rick’s……what an unholy alliance, that. They put things in motion, not Nina.
Their dopey dealings, as you call them, were not brought about by Nina….nor was it Nina’s fault that these two fiendish stooges formed a bond to destroy her. They ended up where they are through their own machinations. Nina’s father left his daughter immensely rich for a reason. Obviously he did not want his wife to get the money. That is very telling . He must have seen Madeline’s madness way back when. It is only right for Nina to be the recipient of her patrimony.
Think about this, my friend….don’t you think MadMaddie deserves her punishment? The idea that Nina, as a child, was crazy is all made up by her mother….just to get to her money. If MadMadfie had /has no remorse putting her own daughter in a coma; she has no remorse about anyone….ergo, she murdered not only Silas, but also the pharmacist. Did Nina make her do that? She has complete disregard for human life. How is that Nina’s fault? At least, we now know that Rick drew the line on murder.
What these two did is unforgivable…..MadMaddie , the worse of the two. Most mothers try to protect their children….no matter what….to the death. I would give my life for my kids, in a New York minute….

As far as Dillon and Lulu…I don’t see it. I agree with you….I felt something between him and Maxie ….he and Lulu just do not mesh….’there must be a spark to start a fire’.
I think Lulu and Dante work…but something has changed…I think I changed toward these two. I lose all kinds of respect for cheaters. And, I do realize it’s a soap….it’s fiction…( so, su don’t get your skivvies in a twist…LOL). Besides, what if our Val is pregnant, Shay?
Still friends, right, ShayGirl? Oh, gee, Shay. I just thought of La Civetta…..awaiting with bated breath. Buonanotte, bella.

Patrick, I hate this movie story line. Its a way. like you said, for characters to bump and grind, legally, lets say. What I would do is put Dante and Valerie together and pair Dillon and Maxie. Send Lulu off to find her father off camera and bring back Julie Berman, next year. As for Nathan, I’ll keep him on the show for CeeCee BUT he and Rosalie hookup. I figure the two of them acting together could become a drinking game!

@Timmm.
Golly Gee, Timmm. I do appreciate that. More time for me to look at Nathan’s gorgeous face. I wish I could see a little more of his backside, though. I think Patrick would agree.
See? It took Nathan’s keen sense of smell that led to MadMaddie. I just knew he had it in him….HaHaHa!!!! So there!….LOL.

Absolutely still FIRM friends….always, CeeCeeGirl! That was some impassioned defense of all things Nina and MS….well done! Applause, applause! You did yourself proud, and were, of course, inordinately morally correct in your assertions, however, we were on totally different pages when it came to the nature of my critique of the Nina Clay saga. I was not defending the deplorable behavior and motivations of Maddie and/or Ric in my post…rather, I was condemning the ways in which the entire Nina storyline progressed and the major players were defined and employed at the hands of the showrunners, culminating in the unforgivable loss of Michael Easton’s Silas and Donna Mill’s Magda from the GH canvas. THAT is what is at the heart of my immense displeasure. As you will undoubtedly recall, far back when this was still a fresh and shiny tale and Liesl and Madeline were first revealed to be sisters, there was a scene in Liesl’s office where Nina’s condition was discussed between the two of them….in it, Dr. O. stated that her niece had been a disturbed child and the obvious implication was that Nina was a “bad seed” who had some sort of deficiency in her psyche. That was made abundantly clear by the brilliant Obrecht, who seemed to be declaring it as a medical fact in a completely clinical manner with the authority of an expert….there was indeed something terribly wrong with Nina’s mental state, and it surfaced in childhood, long before the coma. Hence, at least at that point in time, Nina was intended to be portrayed as the off-the-wall loon she later certainly displayed every sign of being. I still buy into that educated diagnosis ala Dr. O. Why? Because if Liesl had any sort of scientific cause to doubt otherwise— that instead Maddie was the true impetus behind all of her niece’s emotional woes simply as a result of terrible parenting—-then why would she have entrusted that very woman with the care of her precious son, Nathan? (Who, incidentally, turned out to be a fine, upstanding, well-adjusted individual with the same upbringing! ) No…the original basis was that Nina was an utter whack-job and probably emerged from the birth canal that way!!! In addition, we were teased and tantalized with the promise of various family secrets from the past of the Westbourne siblings that were supposedly the key to this unholy she-beast called Nina. Unfortunately, between then and now, we came up extremely short on details and explanations…as was so often the case with most RC storylines….he totally dropped the ball, left a sloppy trail of red herrings, and reinvented the premise mid-stream, ultimately leaving us with the unsatisfying, predictable and oh so convenient scenario that, in actuality, Maddie was always the wicked one who was solely responsible for creating this sorry situation due to her own greed and Nina, if not good, then was really not all that bad, and merely an innocent, abused waif standing in the way of a fabulous fortune. (Although her brutal baby-snatching escapade with Ava definitely shed much doubt on that assumption!) In my opinion, this revision was done not only for the sake of expediency, but also to imbue Nina with a more sympathetic victim status, because, as I have previously stated, I do not believe that her character has been a huge hit with the majority of GH viewers. The only way to salvage her presence in Port Charles, justify her remaining there, and perhaps make her more acceptable(?) to the audience was to paint her as the wronged party and Madeline as the Monster Mom. That change in direction is totally where my greatest criticism lies….neither mother nor daughter was initially a black or white character…there was so much nuance that was open to interpretation, and that is what kept the story alive, and at least, reasonably compelling. Therefore, no, I don’t like the way that the Donna Mills role was turned into a complete villainess, whilst coincidentally promoting the notion that Nina was a wholly normal–but just tortured—person driven to insanity by Maddie….I find both characterizations to be just too pat, not to mention, insulting and disingenuous, and used as a last ditch effort to simultaneously tie up this arc with a neat little bow, move on asap and secure MS’s place on the show….sans both Magda and the unjustly murdered Silas, who were unnecessarily sacrificed on her behalf. ( As for SickRic, he’s always been a slimy goofball…whatever happens to him, I really care not, and if I’d had my druthers, I’d have made him Dr. Clay’s killer so that his smarmy mug would have been eliminated from the picture as opposed to that of the glamorous Madeline, who had a lot of dramatic mileage left to extract with her “Swiss Sis,” Liesl.) At any rate, I hope this lengthy explanation more capably elucidates my position on this subject. Whilst you are superbly spot-on that I have never welcomed the inclusion of MS to the GH canvas, my objections go far beyond a mere dislike of a single individual….I’ve found both the character and storyline to also be horribly unbearable, as well….in other words, it all made for a terrible trifecta in terms of soap opera viewing, and at this late date, nothing could possibly make me feel otherwise, not even those lovely, heartfelt sentiments you expressed for your beloved actress, dear CeeCee! (But for the record, I’m also getting that same deja vu feeling regarding RB’s Hayden….just saying. LOL.) P.S. I’m sending this post under a different topic to hopefully insure it reaches your inbox….fingers crossed!)

Molte, molte grazie, dear CeeCee! Although I certainly wouldn’t dare to dream that any of my GH posts could ever approach the Brontean heights of masterpieces like Jane Eyre or Wuthering Heights, for you to even suggest the comparison with your generous sentiments is highly flattering and much appreciated—to say the least! Furthermore, I’m so glad we now perfectly understand each other where your beloved Nina/MS are involved, since I would never want you to imagine that I have anything but the utmost respect and admiration for your point of view on this actress and her role. Despite our not sharing that same perspective, I do believe it’s quite safe to state that we both harbor extreme disappointment in her character and storyline, even if for totally diverse reasons. (Isn’t it funny how we can so easily agree to disagree on any subject and it’s no big deal whatsoever, and yet, where others are concerned, well, such is SO not the case?—-Understatement!—- Incidentally, I apologize for taking so long to reply here…..obviously, I became waylaid in my response due to that “La Civetta” nonsense on the “Bryan Craig” thread, although you’d never know it, judging by the sparsely posted results of my numerous attempts at commentary. By the way, I thoroughly enjoyed your spirited remarks that did make it online….extremely well put, and oh so true! I swear, that situation’s become akin to “Groundhog Day,” hasn’t it????? In the immortal words of the late, great and still much-missed comedic doyenne, Joan Rivers, I simply say “Oh, grow up!” That, plus move on and get a life!) Anyway, returning to the actual topic at hand, we do have a meeting of the minds when it comes to desiring a more substantial backstory and explanation of all things referencing the “Family Westbourne.” There was so much rich material which could have been mined for the characters of Liesl, Magda, Nathan, Britt (Bring her back…stat!) and yes, even your Nina. The manner in which this saga first lazily meandered—then abruptly ended in such a slapdash effort—-was most unsatisfying indeed, and I concur that one or more nefarious Cassadine connections could have added a morish mystique to this murky brood’s less-than-savory origins and ongoing escapades. Whether we shall ever reach those giddily Gothic heights with a further examination of this far-too-abridged tale of grift and greed is anyone’s guess….with so much unwarranted attention afforded to the current orgy of affection for all things Sonny-centric, it would appear not. Let’s simply say I shall not be holding my breath for any further clarifications. However, I’m still not sold on a continued Franco and Nina coupling….RoHo has such a unique talent and presence, and I feel that MS’s inclusion in his character’s orbit holds him back. I like when he is painted with much broader, outre’ strokes….without them, his exuberance is tamped down, and it’s like he is imprisoned whilst being on the verge of bursting forth with all of his pent-up brilliance. I consider his Franco to be at his best when combined in scenes with either Dr. O. or his bat-guano crazy bio-mom, Heather. (Let’s just say lunatics love kindred company and leave it at that! Hey, maybe MadMaddie—Hat tip to your personally-coined moniker!—could turn up in Heather’s mental milieu…perhaps they’d even compare notes on maniacal mothering techniques! That would be some sideshow, eh?…..LOL.) At any rate, I suppose I should be winding up this post…..I’ve been lingering here at MFSoaps for hours on end with all the current GH threads …..thank you again for your always gracious compliments, CeeCeeGirl! They are such a sweet delight and obviously a most-marked departure from the repeated rounds of bashing we seem fated to endure in order to continue the privilege of trading our thoughts here with one another. Oh well….que sera, sera! Later!