You’re right, Jimmy. The timeline for Carly doesn’t stand up. But, it could for Jax. I just want this story to be done, already.

Or Jerry’s daughter, jimh! That would certainly explain her peculiar psyche….and her suitability as a kidney donor for Josslyn.

I don’t think Jax would ever give up his daughter…not knowingly. Maybe some fling of his had her and he never knew she was his daughter. That would explain how she was a match for Jocelyn…and still keep her unrelated to Michael if they’re going the relationship route.

Helena cannot hold a candle to Jerry!

@CeeCee….I was thinking back to the early days when Nelle seemed to be rocking that whole “Bad Seed” vibe, which would jive quite nicely with Jerry Jack’s “gleevil” (That would be “gleefully evil!”…..) persona.

@Shay.
Hey, Shay,
I was wondering; as inimical and pernicious Jerry is, does he have any friends? Did he ever? Does he even have a relationship with Jax?
For some reason I was not repulsed either by him, or Faison….I know I should be. I suppose Roche’s superlative ( and the fact that he is part Scottish) acting and Hove’s (who is part Dutch) hilarious ‘pazzia’ enthrall me, regardless their virulent personae.

To which I cry foul, CeeCeeGirl! LOL….But seriously, even though I would certainly not describe Jerry as one of those “touchy-feeling” sort of beta males, he is capable of certain depths of human emotion. When Sebastian Roche took over the role, he had some excellent scenes with his mother during which the long thought dead man’s identity was initially revealed and his much-changed appearance and subsequent change of name explained with a very intriguing storyline….yes, GH once actually had those, mia amica!…He also has demonstrated a protective, soft-spot for Joss….and has revealed that on a few various occasions, hence I couldn’t say that Jerry is a complete psychopath with ice cold blood in his veins. Somewhere hiding inside the psyche of this complicated criminal there is a feeling, functioning person who upon rare glimpses lets slip his considerable guard of protective armor……I expect you’ve probably never seen it because as a newer viewer you’ve only been treated to the highly-abridged, one-dimensional bad boy version of Jerry that the past few writing regimes have furnished..

@Shay.
Yes, of course, Shaybelle. What I’ve seen of Jerry was very limited….that time with Robin while she was held captive.
Therefore, my concept of him was not an honorable one, to say the least. Yet, even the worst miscreant can demonstrate some humanity.
You have a point.

Just to clarify, CeeCee….I was “crying foul” for the notion that your previous replies to me weren’t posted, not your thoughts or impressions of Jerry based upon your limited exposure to the character! Now that I know exactly just how little you’ve actually seen of Mr. Jacks, I can certainly understand why you would consider him as a solely unsavory sort of sod with more than a scoche of sociopathy….However, if you ever get the chance, go back to the earlier episodes and check out some of Sebastian’s more brilliant and emotionally-expansive performances from his past GH stints…some are downright hilarious given his absolute audacity and mirthful malevolence, but there are also a few rare examples of more down-to-earth moments, as well….not many, mind you, but they do exist in the video archives, believe it or not!!!!

Jerry had a kind streak back in the day when he dated Bobbi. I believe it was a different actor? GH tends to turn all their villains into cartoon characters!

@CeeCee…I’ve not been repulsed by Jerry or Faison, either! I think they are absolute laugh riots, although the notion that the clearly-obsessed Liesl worshipped her “Cesar” as some sort of sexual demigod to be admired with breathless adoration has always been a source of both amusement and puzzlement for me. However, Sebastian Roche’s Jerry is very much an attractive, sophisticated gent with a continental bent and naughty glint in his eye, who—under the proper circumstances—-could be considered quite swoonworthy and desirable, albeit a seriously dangerous liaison, just the same! As for Jerry’s “friendships?” For all the time I’ve known of the current version of this character, he has had “associates” and “flings,” which seems to be about as deep as he is willing to go in relationships, but he obviously loves (or loved) his mother, brother and niece, although that doesn’t mean that any of them have been immune to the consequences of his wicked ways. Apparently, he reached this point because of a past love lost that he once believed to have died…very long story there, yet that seemed to be the turning point for the metamorphosis of this man who went from a small potatoes, often luckless, criminal to one of Port Charles’ most enduring diabolical supervillains. Incidentally, as Timmm has referenced, Jerry was initially played by another actor, a dark-haired dude who gave an entirely different spin to him…much less lethal and mercenary, and even somewhat likeable and sympathetic as the always odd-out child who was the black sheep in the Jacks family…he was actually engaged to Bobbie before he skipped town after another disastrous scheme went awry. During one of Jerry’s return engagements (in the form of Roche) he finally again encountered Bobbie in the thick of yet another caper, and kinda, sorta, fondly referred to her and their time together in the past, which is why he claimed he wouldn’t kill her even though she got in the way of his plans…hence there is still a sentimental heart beating somewhere deep down beneath that cool, calm, collected and yes, often disturbing, exterior.

@Timmm.
Hey, Timmmy,
Don’t get me wrong, I like Jerry, in a weird way. His and Faison’s malevolent escapades hit my funny bone.
Then, again, my sense of humor goes against the grain. I find some situations hilariously funny. Eg. The scene on the bridge with Rudge and Sonny. He was soooo dwarfed by Rudge–just struck me, as it probably would not others. LOL.
So, please pray tell, did Bobbi date the entire football team, all the townsmen, and then some?? HaHa!!

@CeeCee….Per your query to Timmm about Bobbie’s “antics” back in the day? I wouldn’t go so far as to say that the entire town (or football team, for that matter…shades of Clara Bow, who, incidentally, also never did the deed for which she was famously accused….) made it on her “been there, done that,” list, but yes, she did cut quite a sexual swathe during her earlier years in Port Charles. Of course, she had an impressive(?) head start pre-GH, which is frequently alluded to regarding her past as a prostitute before she segued from the world’s “oldest profession” to the more upstanding medical job sector. But if memory serves, I can list Scotty, Roy DiLucca, Jerry Jacks, Joe Kelly, Dr. Noah Drake—(and his uncle, a US senator, from her time served in the “pro” trenches….hah! Ditto for Carly’s bio-dad, John Durant…)—DL Brock, Jake Meyer, Damian Smith, and even Stefan Cassadine amongst her many conquests….have I missed anyone???? Many of these “characters” were “repeat performers” with Nurse Spencer…and she even married a few of them! However, one prevailing theme to most of Bobbie’s life has been trying to live down her shameful past as a slampuppy for sale, so it did strike many long-time GH viewers as oddly illogical when she suddenly starting bragging about her bordello-derived skill set whilst in her battle with fellow faded-sexpot Lucy Coe over Scotty’s divided loyalties…just saying! As for your “funny bone,” I absolutely share your considerable sense of amusement over the frequent absurdities found amidst the denizens of Port Charles, hence I’m ever so glad that it wasn’t the one broken during your recent skating mishap…and speaking of, hope your leg has healed and you’re back on your feet!

Roche could play Daniel Craig’s’ [James Bond] older brother. Both handsome BUT did not like Craig as Bond. Looking for a refreshing reboot.

Timmm….I agree with you about Craig’s Bond…although I’m not a fan of the franchise, in general….I did enjoy the actor in a very absorbing British mystery from earlier in his career….It was called “The Ice House.” Sebastian Roche is a most versatile actor….I have seen him appear in numerous guest spots, and he is always excellent….his performances never fail to feature that European mystique and saucy twinkle in his eye….love him! Oh….and long live Jerry Jacks!

@rebecca.
LOL.I want to clarify….when I speak of ‘imposing’ figure, I do not necessarily mean size or height.
Members of l’organizzazione Calabrese Ndrangheta, specifically Condello (and others) did, in fact, pose a “heightened” figure, albeit they are short in stature.
Sonny looked ridiculous next ro Rudge, that’s all, rebecca. I thought they looked hilarious next to each other. Sonny does not have a scary presence…..no aura of any kind….benign or otherwise.
He is a pompous blank, with temper tantrums, baying at the moon.
And, I truly find the writers’s complete and utter dismissal of AJ irreverent; not to mention the hypocrisy displayed by Sonny in seeking revenge for Morgan.
I, for one, have not forgotten…so, this vendetta is so out of place. The same could be said about Carly. She is just as guilty in AJ’s downfall.
Shall I say, “Oh, it’s just a soap?” You know what I mean? Sobeit, then…..it’s just a soap. LOL.

@Shay.
Too funny, Shay…Napoleon indeed!!
The only siminlarities are their shared lunacy, and their deminuative form, not their stance.
As I said below, one does not have to be tall or hefty to wield power. Napoleon was such…..to a certain point, LOL……he failed big time. Maybe it was that hand he so skillfully tried to hide?
I think, today, Ava let Sonny have it. He seems to hold himself to a higher level/standard from the rest of the lowly ‘commoners’. Soooo glad Ava reminded him of the atrocities in his book of wizardry and misdeeds.
That was so satisfying….not to excuse Ava because this is the classic example of the pot and the kettle.
But, Sonny needs to come down his high horse, if he can without falling off?
On another note. I think all those fellow-posters who said Griffin is Anna’s son, may be right!!
What secret was Olivia J about to divulge to Anna? Is Griffin the secret?

Diminutive. Sorry–sp.

And of course, the self-deluded Sonny is a legend in his own mind, too, just as was Napoleon, CeeCeeGirl! Now if we could only banish “Crime Emperor Corinthos” to his own version of Elba…LOL! .As for the big secret that Olivia is harboring??? If it is that Griffin is the son of Anna and Duke, it certainly won’t come as any big shock to most. I should think that Olivia being Duke’s babymama, aka Griff’s bio-mommy, would be a more surprising result. Hey, with these writers, anything’s possible!

@Shay.
Mais oui, ma chere.
There is always a remote spot on the Corinth Canal waiting for Sonny–exiled within the bones of a long gone warrior ghost ship, inhabited by mighty Spartan spirits. Lol. N’est-ce pas? I do believe he expects everyone’s subservience by kissing his uhmmm, ring.
Yes! Absolutely, Shay. Olivia as Griffin’s bio mom? That would be a killer impact, albeit a tragic one. Poor Griffin. And, Poor Anna. It would be such an affront; the most stinging slap in the face, ever.
Would the writers go there?

Don’t you mean “The Corinthos Canal?” Just joshing, CeeCeeGirl…)Of course, I get your drift! But I truly could envision Sonny “in exile,” his innate madness there to serve as his only companion…’twould make for a compelling–and well-deserved—fate for old SonnyBoy! So, this, ahem, discussion of the Mafiosi and their supposedly shared slight statures begs the question, are there trading cards for followers of these underworld luminaries, complete with height and weight data???? There seems to be an audience for this riveting sort of info, rather the equivalent of sports fans who recite baseball stats!!!! Just had to ask…LOL!….Anyway, I agree that Griffin as Olivia’s son would be an absolute affront to Anna….yet it would also make for great drama. To be in love with your dead spouse’s son that was created with one of your most lethal enemies???? Can’t get much “soapier” than that!!!!

@Shay.
E’ vero, Shay. That’s why I brought up the potential drama and controversy: Olivia and Griffin; mother and son.
Of course, it would be a blow to Anna…especially to her heart. But, this is what gives a good dramatic and drastic twist to any soapy storyline. I would absorb it; relish it, in a NY minute.
Now, I purposely chose the Corinth Canal amidst thousands because of the Corinthos name; which is Greek, by the by. So, how does Sonny get a Greek name? I thought he was Irish/Hispanic?
Anyhoo, my Shay….I am finally unfettered!!!! No cast. Weirdly enough, my left leg looks slimmer than the right. LOL. I guess I’m also going blind!

Sonny is also partially Greek, CeeCeeGirl! His bio-daddy, Mike Corbin, has both Irish AND Greek extraction…his late mama was full-on Cuban. Yes, I’m always up for a fine storyline for Anna, too…and I’m very pleased that Finola’s exquisitely understated performances of the past year have garnered her an Emmy nomination…I so want for her to win! At any rate, it is indeed good news that you’ve finally been released from your cast-laden state….just in time for spring…like a butterfly emerging from their cocoon! Perhaps a bit of muscle-atrophy is to blame for your post-injury difference in leg dimension???

You’re just as obnoxious as ever, Shay. Your obvious references to my reply, as well as Rose, to CeeCee’s observations about Sonny’s height…to which you, too, mentioned Napoleon for his short stature…is…well..obnoxious! Everyone was kinda gettin’ along well in your absence. But you like “teaming” up. So be it. Who am I to deprive you of making fun of everyone and everything?

Carry on.

CeeCee…just so you know…I, too, was (not in a cast) but in a walking boot for four months! Broke my entire foot…ankle, heel, tibia, etc, etc. Just started walking again about six months ago. Point is my leg was thinner than the other too when I finally took the boot off for good. Leg kinda atrophies but it gets back to normal eventually.

Speaking of Sonny, Tea….I thought that scene on the bridge with Rudge looked so ridiculously misplaced. Rudge dwarfed him….the image just didn’t compute . Sonny, the imperious mafioso did not an imposing figure cut. Au contraire, the parable “The Lion And The Mouse” came to mind; except that without a gun, Rudge would have swatted him in a single swoop.

More like “Napoleon” comes to mind, CeeCeeGirl!

Toto Riina (chief of the Sicilian Mafia) : 5’2
-Pasquale Condello ( chief of Ndragheta) : 5’3
-Meyer Lansky (Jewish mob boss) : 5’4
-Pablo Escobar (Colombian Drug Lord) : 5’5
-Semion Mogleivich (Chief of the Russian Mafia) : 5’5
-El Chapo Guzman (Mexican drug lord) : 5’5
-Carlo Gambino (Boss of Gambino family) :5’6

And let’s not forget another tiny toughy…5’4 Joe Pesci in Goodfellas!

Rebecca…Or Edward G. Robinson or James Cagney…maybe even better than the real bad guys?

hi CC==
I really like Ingo Rademacher (Jax).. but I don’t believe he has any intentions of returning to GH outside of the short term stints he seems to be fine with doing every now and then when needed..

yeah, most everyone knew he would be returning to wrap up the story..
And, the total whitewashing of Nell ..

Yep done with the show Ajax was a great character I have had it with this bunch OLTL got cancelled they need to deal with it and quit trying to recreate it. UGH!

Jax sorry I hate my IPad jumps!

While I totally buy the idea of Jax doing whatever it took to get a kidney for his daughter, it is a stretch that with all his money and the immediate fear of losing his child Jax would think “hey, I should waste precious time looking up Carly’s estranged adoptive father she hasn’t seen in over two decades and see if he’s fathered any non-biological siblings during that time that could be a possible donor match.”

To sell this story I’m assuming Jean and Shelly will go with a retconned memory of Jax remembering that he saw one of the letters Frank wrote to Carly over the years and in that letter he mentioned she had a little sister so Jax took a chance that non-biological sibling Nelle was a match but that begs more questions: why wasn’t Frank blackmailing Jax for more money all these years? Why didn’t Frank show up in Port Charles and just flat out ask Carly for money since he had the kidney as a bargaining chip? Why wasn’t good guy Jax making sure Nelle was taken care of since her kidney saved his daughter?

Good questions, Alan, but let’s wait and see if any of those are answered when Jax gets back to town. We know he can be ruthless in business; that’s how he was portrayed when he was introduced years ago. So, he probably dug up whatever he could…perhaps there’s a secret that hasn’t been revealed. Either way he probably used Carly’s name or forged a letter…something…without Carly’s knowledge.

As for Benson not showing up…Jax is way wealthier than Carly/Sonny. I’m sure Jax compensated him quite well for his silence/absence.

Rebecca….Thought I would add to your list of two “little Napolean” gangsters from film who possibly played the roles better than the real ones…Edward G. Robinson and James Cagney. Or at least made them more entertaining than real life.

And “Oh,” I am so, so ready for the Morgan story from Carly and Sonny to be over. I feel bad for Morgan, and for Carly and Sonny’s pain and mourning. But enough is enough is enough from both of the latter. Especially since they had him farmed out to private school for much of his younger life.

Hey Rose…better???? Hope so!!!!

Also hope you see this response; couldn’t find a place under your name to reply. Yes! LOL..two other good examples.

I’ll trade you one Morgan for one Carly. I actually find her more grating than Sonny. Not Laura Wright; great actress. But I just can’t stand Carly. Wanna slap the smug off of her.

Let’s hope our PBS shows won’t go the way of decency, compassion, meals on wheels, normalcy, healthcare…basic human values, on and on and on. We NEED culture to escape this madness, n’est pas?

Hey there, Rebecca,
Agreed–Jax was indeed stunning.
PS And thanks so very much for inquiring about my mother–and me! Mother is now stable medically–her doctor saw her this past Thursday–said her heart and lungs sounded good: she’s come back from that 2-wk. fight with institutional pneumonia–and such a fighter at 95! And I’m in a much better place with that news. Take care.

Rebecca…Am home and feeling a lot better. Thanks for asking. Still a ways to go. Thank goodness for soaps in the afternoon.
Luckily there was TCM’s tribute to Robert Osborne with great interviews. In one interview he mentioned he actually started his acting career in a soap called “Unmarrieds” Have you heard of it? I couldn’t find any info on it.
And then for real life drama I watched most of the 5 hr House Intelligence hearing, and was riveted to the questions and testimony that could rival any soap (except maybe Victor). I’m sure you heard what happened so I won’t comment on anything, like the truth behind the tweet, wiretapping accusation.
Hoping the coming of spring will bring in a new breath of fresh, clean air. 🙂

Sorry about your leg, too, rebecca.
Yeah, my husband told me the calf muscle gets ‘lazy’ , LOL. Gotta work that muscle.

@Timmm.
You’re right. No one can hold a candle to Helena. I still wonder if she’s really dead.
Why are they reintroducing Jakey’s time with her?is she coming back through flasbacks, as a spirit or human form?
I hope this story leads somewhere positive and is finally put to bed, and not brought back for naught.

Helle will be redeemed!

He is a good actor and when he has scenes with Alexis and Carly, they always pay off.

He lost his luster long ago for me…

@Timmm.
Maybe so, my Timmmy. He just doesn’t do it for me. I love, tall dark and drop dead gorgeous…white teeth and all. LOL.
Seriously, though, I know he’s a great actor. I can easily read his expressions….so, if an actor can do that, he’s worth a zillion. I was strictly talking about his looks.

Hi Nancy…hope all is as good as it can be with your mom and that you’re hanging in there.

Agree regarding Ingo/Jax. While he’s still very good-looking “back in the day” he was beyond stunning.

Yes, CeeCeeGirl….We’ll just file under “C” this latest installment of GH “Clusters”…… Now there’s “ClusterNelle” to be added to “ClusterFluke” along with all the many other ones that fall somewhere in-between F and N, not to mention A to Z….

Yes, I love that idea….Nina and Jax with a jarring past. But, Nina was dormant for most of her life. And, from what we were led to believe, she was madly in love with her husband….her world revolved around him and she climbed mountains to be with him.
Actually, I still believe Kiki is hers. If TPTB can incorporate that with Jimmy’s theory, then I’ll buy the the story.
The timeline needs to fit. When and how did Jax and Nina meet? And, most importantly, WHY!!

This is a rewrit a destruction of a once great character very sad next Jelly will decide Robin is not Roberts daughter but Valentin’s just watch their path of destruction with old Frankie saying Hell yes