Carlos knows they did not have sex..
If he did have sex with he would tell Sabrina it could be his baby, not Patrick’s but his baby, he can not do that because they did not do the deed..

Sonny will probably end up killing Carlos, Carlos will finger point the initials SC in his own blood and AJ will still get the blame!

suOOOO, your most likely right…

i enjoy picking them apart…thats part of the fun watching!

I was going crazy! Her hands are tied in FRONT of her, no reason she cannot ungag herself & with those stiletto shoes she could have kicked the hell out of the boathouse floor when Monica & AJ were out there, right? I, for one, am sick to death of Heather-she was actually kind of amusing way back when but this is over the top, even for a soap. Quit dragging her back out-we have too many storylines on this show & do not need anymore Heather, Scotty, Lucy or Kevin. Take Rafe, Molly & TJ too. All of these characters are a waste of screen time.

And why could Carly groan and screech and moan when Heather was in the room…yet she couldnt utter a sound when Monica and AJ were outside? I will accept all the latex masks and back from the deads and other soapy conventions…but when they do flat out stupid things like that…it totally takes you out of the moment. There is no gag that prevents a person from making a sound. If there was that big of a raccoon problem on the Quartermaine grounds….Monica sure has a lot to deal with. Carlivati is veering dangerously close to the dreaded James E. Reilly territory with some of his ridiculous non plot points. Thats not a good thing.

Heather is not ‘ cartoonish” where do people come up with such nonsense…
… Heather is true ”soap campy” …

Agree. Felix is precious & I have come around to Brad (can’t believe I said that, ha!)

LOL…I know (regarding Brad), right?

Not to make this a “Revenge” thread, but it is awfully difficult to keep a scorecard as to whom is good or bad on that show! Everyone is pretty suspect, although I do consider Nolan to be a sweetheart (albeit a devious one!) and the jury is still out on Patrick….I think there is much more to him than meets the eye, and who he is really playing has yet to be determined. That being said, I do believe that there is a sincere bond between those two, but their various loyalties tend to keep both on their toes, clever boys that they are!!!! All I was implying was that I find them to be quite an attractive, intelligent and intriguing duo…not the usual stereotypes, which makes for an interesting and enjoyable viewing experience. As for the GHers, well, they have been played for laughs…and displayed some truly deplorable behavior, too. Brad was a sleazy creep from Day One, and Felix is most annoying and often downright rude in his non-stop worship and defense of the babymama, not to mention his less than compassionate attitude toward Robin, which is totally disgusting. Many of us find neither Mr. Cooper nor Mr. DuBois to be very endearing, and that is not based simply upon their less than stunning appearances, but their really rotten actions. Warm and fuzzy they are not, so let’s stop pretending that they are really great guys!!!!! I wouldn’t wish either one of them on Lucas, no matter how he is portrayed!!!!

Well, rebecca1, at least we can heartily agree about AJ….he has gotten a bad rap and been seriously underutilized for the past six months or more, and he deserves so much better….but I guess that is the extent to where we have any sort of simpatico. You seem to be fixating on the physical attractiveness of my “Revengers” and yes, they are extremely fine on the eyes, but perhaps the word I would use to really capture their essence is “sophistication.” It’s what I was grasping to express about why Nolan and Patrick impress me and the GH pair, not SO much!!!! There are many people in this world who are not physically blessed, but they have a certain je ne sais quoi about themselves, whether they are good or bad characters is not the issue, they just possess that special factor, and that is what I was saying that I hope Lucas emulates. I want him to be a well-rounded, interesting, worldly individual with multi-layers…not just another stereotypical buffoon as I view Felix and Brad as representing. Of course, the fact that Mr. DuBois is so wholly attached to that “Cinderbrina” debacle is just another reason for my great derision regarding him. As you are quite aware, I despise that entire storyline with the now-unwed babymama who was just “champing at the bit” (tip of the hat to Harry, there….) to be the next princess of Port Charles, so yes, my “Sappy animosity” does extend to Felix, since they are joined at the hip. (Should be getting pretty crowded there, what with Carlos, Brad, and said bambino, but I have yet to see any indication that anyone is vacating that limited space….) At any rate, my intention was not to debate who has or has not a virtuous persona, per se, that could be done for days on end…although I have certainly been less than impressed with the motives and methods of the “two clowns”…..it was simply to agree with “Stylish” and his assessment about possible partners for Lucas. Actually, I am hoping with all the dramatic plots facing Mr. Jones that romance will be the last thing on his mind for at least awhile…yet I have no doubt that your beloved duo will trip over themselves in one foolish attempt after another to grab the attention of the “new guy!!!!!”

@rebecca1….Who can really say why one viewer takes to a character and another finds them instantly insufferable? It’s certainly not as simplistic as saying you like someone based upon whether they are good or bad in nature. There are “good” characters that I adore and cheer (Anna and Mrs. Hughes on “Downton Abbey,” the late Lila Quartermaine, Alice and Spinelli on GH, plus other examples too numerous to mention) and there are bad characters in which I revel and love (such as Port Charles’ Dr. O. and Heather, plus “Revenge’s” Victoria, etc.) All I know is that this “Sobby” situation is one that has truly ignited very vociferous responses on both the pro and con sides. I have never loathed a role/storyline on a soap as much as hers….and that does extend to others in her orbit, so yes, that also offers a clue as to some of my antipathy toward Felix. Both annoy me to no end, and not until I started reading a lot of other soap comment sites did I realize that I was in such crowded company!!!! I have tried (apparently in vain….) many times to verbalize the hows and whys of my objections to diehard fans of this actress, character, plot, et al…all I can say is that some seemed to have truly bought into this highly improbable and from my viewpoint, ridiculous fairytale, and are enchanted by the whole idea of this silly girl who would be more at home on a Disney sitcom than an adult soap opera. I’ve never witnessed a more immature, out-of-place and predictable year of pablum in my life than where the “Putrina” pairing was concerned, and after finally achieving the much-desired Scorpio-Drake reunion, to arbitrarily throw in a completely unnecessary, insulting and ludicrous pregnancy just took the cake for a lot of us….to even have to witness this latest travesty is enough to make me want to hurl or at the very least, shut off the show! (I’ve skipped it twice in the past week because of this absurd content….) So, yeah, maybe it is inexplicable to those such as yourself who passionately defend this particular part of the GH saga which has sent normally mild-mannered people into such a sarcastic and snarky snit, but it just is what it is….a visceral, honest and at least for me, isolated but perfectly reasonable reaction!!! As for the original premise of pinning the “clown” label on Felix and Brad, I again say it is more a matter of their actions and attitudes, not appearance or level of attractiveness, but for those who do find these two goofy guys to be endearing, I suppose that elucidation will not suffice. All I can add is that I just hope that the return of Lucas shows a different facet of the subculture to which he belongs…one more dignified, gracious, professional and serious, that’s all. Having said that, it has been an enjoyable experience debating with you, since we seem to have quite a… Read more »

Haha! I love how the definition of who’s a “clown” and who’s “worthy” comes down to looks. Shay, if you’re using Patrick as a standup example of who’s worthy I think you need to take another look at the show.

Yes, I LOVE LOOKING at him; he’s gorgeous! And I LOVE Nolan…in every regard. The two of them together are quite the eye candy. But “classy?” Patrick is a murderer who’s betrayed Nolan more than once. So, yes, while I need my fix…and I love seeing what’s going to happen next…and also secretly hope that Patrick turns out to be a good guy…at this point I’d find it a tad of a stretch to put any accolades on him other than beautiful.

“Mr. DuBois” is Sabrina’s Nolan…and while he’s not the “looker” (in my opinion) that Nolan is…he’s no clown. He’s less slick on the outside (although he’d beg to differ!) but he’s a quality “character.”

Truth be told? I wouldn’t mind seeing some new “hottie” come to town to pair up with Lucas…who doesn’t want to see gorgeousness multiplied? But I resent the clown reference to these two other characters…yeah, they’re fun and silly…but they’ve got depth, heart and quite a bit of intelligence.

But then again I like Sabrina. And some others don’t…

By the way for those who don’t watch REVENGE, the Patrick we’re referring to here is from REVENGE, not the Patrick of GH.

I always find it funny when someone categorizes one character as bad, evil, unscrupulous, or as you put it Shay…having “rotten actions.” How many times on GH has Tracy, Carly, Sonny judged AJ? A manipulatiavve bitch, a woman who slept with her mother’s husband, and a murderer…judge AJ…and there are fans who agree with them!

In the same vein…back to REVENGE…almost all the characters, with the exception of Jack and his new girlfriend…ar devious. I LOVE Nolan…I think he’s the best! But Patrick? He killed a man for him mom…and just bashed Nolan in the head for her. So…yeah, he’s gorgeous…talented…more than great to look at…but in terms of character I’d still say Felix on GH is a “better man.”

Yes, Felix has been played to some degree for comic effect…but I think he’s evolved. When they first introduced him he was so “back-in-the-day” stereotypical…but he’s shown how caring he is…toward Sabrina and his sister…I don’t find him to be intrusive…I find him to be Sabrina’s rock. Even his attitude toward Brad…he loathed him for his “dastardly deeds” but had empathy when he realized there was more to the guy.

So, let’s call it what it is. Those who want to see Lucas with someone else are talking strictly about looks. And that’s fine. Just own it.

Well of course Nolan and Patrick are sophisticated…the entire show centers around the extremely wealthy, /Hampton crowd…all are beautiful, polished…that’s the vibe of the show.

What we’re talking about “here” is GH! That’s peanut butter to caviar (though I MUCH prefer peanut butter!)

When/if GH runs a gay character ala Patrick and Nolan, then yes…it would seem that a comparable partner would be logical. I just took note that at the start of this thread these two guys were referred to as clowns. Brad? Ya…until his recent revelation and attempt to become a better man. But I really wonder if Felix and Brad looked like Nolan and Patrick if they’d be called the same. And I also wonder why such bitterness towards Felix, who again, is a good person, caring friend, brother etc…He’s lovable if nothing else…but so much more.

Spinelli was the same. Goofy but a wonderul character. Sabrina? I’ll never get the venom toward this character. All you’ve said Shay is that she is trying to replace Robin, move in on Patrick…just said she’s “chomping on the bit to be the next princess…” How? She’s is SO good…that she didn’t even use the baby to break up Patrick and Robin!

I fail to understand you. You write beautifully…you express yourself wonderfully…but your understanding of character is what I find baffling.

So, in essence, we will just agree to disagree on the Sobby/Felix/Brad thing and call it a day! After viewing your other postings on different programs it would seem we can find much more in common than debating a few daytime characters! It is a hoot that we can be so passionate about “people” that don’t really exist, but then that’s what the soaps are all about (day or night)…drawing us in, and they have! At any rate, did you find it odd that nobody else much commented on this ongoing conversation? I thought it would have actually garnered a lot of other opinions…especially from some of our favorite regulars, but I guess they decided to just sit back, relax and let the two crazy chicks keep at it…LOL! Oh well….until next time, and I’m sure there WILL be a next time!!!! ; )

yep…I expected a tad more hostility and venom. quel disappointment!

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