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DAYS Kate Mansi Chats On On Abigail's Affair With EJ Being Exposed, Rob Scott Wilson, James Scott and More!

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The jig is up for Abigail Deveraux on Days of our Lives, as Sami Brady DiMera (Alison Sweeney) is closing in on her prey!  That’s right!  Sami has known for quite some time that Abigail and her new hubby, EJ (James Scott) slept together and for all intent and purposes had an “affair”.  All of that awkward kindness Sami extended towards Abigail when planning her wedding to EJ, and having the young gal be a part of it, was all part of Sami’s master plan!  How will Abby deal with the revelation that Sami knows what she has done?

On-Air On-Soaps caught up with Kate Mansi (Abigail) at the recent Daytime Emmy Nominee reception to get a preview of what the fallout for Abigail may be from Sami’s revenge plan (tune in to tomorrow’s DAYS), if Abigail is really over EJ, and what her thoughts were on the recent Salem casting switcheroo which had Rob Scott Wilson replacing Justin Gatson in the role of  Ben, the new man vying for Abigail’s heart.  Here’s what Kate had to say about all those hotties in her on-screen alter-egos life!

Abigail’s affair with EJ is about to come out as Sami is out for revenge! How bad are things going to get for her? 

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KATE:  It’s bad.  It gets bad before it gets better.  It’s funny, because through the whole thing she is trying to keep her wits about her, and it’s really difficult, because she has a loyalty to her family.  She is trying to get grounded and find herself and take responsibility for it and move forward.  But then Sami somehow wanted Abigail to help plan her wedding and be involved heavily in it.  Sami feels that Abigail is a kindred spirit girl friend, and EJ is sort of manipulating her into going along with everything.  So for Abigail at this moment she just wants it to be over.  She is thinking, “I can’t really come out with it and so now it’s weighing heavily on me.  I just want it to be tied up in a bow.”  But, she has no idea what Sami has in store for her!

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So Abigail just wants her affair with EJ to be over with?

KATE:  Well sort of, but I think she does want EJ … and it’s not over.  That kind of chemistry lives on, and is always there, and present for you. You tell yourself whatever you can to be able to move on, even though circumstances can keep you apart.  EJ married someone else and it’s crushing her.  But what she has to tell herself to get through it is, “It’s not right …”

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Where you sad when you found out James Scott was leaving the show?  Or, did you know about it ahead of time?

KATE:  I did know about it for awhile.  James pulled me aside in my dressing room and told me.  I feel really privileged to have worked with him towards the end of his run.  We both felt like we left it all out there, and it was great.

And then all of a sudden Rob Scott Wilson is the new Ben, your new love interest. Was that jarring for you having been working with Justin Gatson?

KATE:  It was initially jarring, for sure.  I loved working with Justin.  He is so handsome and he has real quiet, subtle behavior, and stillness to him, which I really enjoyed.

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Why do you the DAYS brass made the change?

KATE:  I think they wanted to take the character of Ben in a direction that they saw Rob fitting into so easily.  I can’t answer any more than that, but Rob is a good guy, and it’s been fun so far.

And there are big secrets in Ben’s past!  Do you know what they are? And without revealing it to us, will his past bother Abigail?

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KATE: Yes, he does have secrets, and I do know what they are.  And yes, I think it will bother her, because she tends to find men that are sort of like influx, and working on issues, and sort of like trying to turn a corner in their lives, but they have this past or something deep-rooted for them going on.  I think that’s very enticing for her.

Abigail goes for the bad boys … and has some serious daddy issues too! (Laughs)

KATE: Yeah, there is some of that.  I think she has a nurturing element to her character and she is drawn to the bad boys, for sure.

So what do you think will happen when Sami lets Abigail have revenge served up Sami style? Do you think EJ and Abigail will find themselves in each others arms once again after knowing that Sami set them up? What do you think about the casting switch thus far with Rob Scott Wilson taking over the role of Ben from Justin Gatson and Rob’s on-screen chemistry with Kate Mansi? Share your thoughts below!

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juju
juju

Awful awful interview..this girl’s interviews doesn’t even match what we see on screen..pathetic.

Monique
Monique

Couldn’t agree more to your comment. EJ & Abby = GROSS

Feelings should be mutual. In her scenes with EJ, she keeps looking at him lustfully, embarrassing . I’d be embarrassed if I was in love with a man who keeps reminding me that he is love with another woman. Where is her pride – dream on!

CeeCee
CeeCee

I am licking my fingers with relish…finally, Abbi will get a potful of caca, Sami-style. Yippee !!!!

Lia
Lia

From where I sit Abi’s feelings match with what Kate said. Abi clearly wants Ej in spite of the anger she feels about him choosing to go through with his wedding. It’s in her eyes, and as Kate stated….It’s not over.

Jessie
Jessie

What do you mean by this, “this girl doesn’t even match what we see onscreen” and how was the interview terrible and pathetic:/?

Laura
Laura

I love Kate Mansi! Thanks for this interview. I hope we get more EJ and Abby (EJabby) before James is gone! I hate that he is leaving because the chemistry between these two is incredible.

Robert Scott Wilson was a good Ben recast but I haven’t seen any spark between Ben and Abby yet. I almost feel bad for him because it’s going to be hard to duplicate the magic EJ and Abby had.

Paul
Paul

This storyline is stupid I watched the way EJ has looked at Sami from Day one and there no way he Abby will ever come close to Sami when it comes to which lady truly has his heart there no contest he always love Sami much more. Nothing against KM sure we very nice but we must be watching different shows only reason EJ slept with Abby was because he and Sami were apart and EJ was in place at the time even James said that in a recent interview. No wonder Ali and James left the story this story has brought the ratings down look at them now they are terrible they were way up last year and what was happening last year EJami was happy and in love.

Dawn Haggard
Dawn Haggard

Please he slept with Abby because he WANTED too and because he enjoyed the ehll out of it. And they are not leaving the show because of the story line. I wish people would get their facts straight before spreading complete and utter BS.

Josephine
Josephine

Hell Yeah I hope EJabby aint over. I want to see as much of them as possible until EJ leaves . Chemistry like that should not be wasted.

CeeCee
CeeCee

Ah, Josephine. There is no chemistry. The grass is always greener, is it not? EJ plucked the not-so-pure-and-untainted apple in a moment (or two) of lust because she wanted him to. Abbi? Well, it seems that she could neither snare nor hold EJ’s heart. Abbi strikes me as emotionally unstable, flighty and very volatile. If only the writers would nurture her relationship with Ben. I suppose after JS exits the show, EJ will no longer be a distraction for her.
It is sad to see Ejami leave…this was a true love story. I would have loved to have seen recasts for both EJ and Sami to continue their story. Perhaps it could still happen; except that I concur with Sami; I could never forgive a betrayal like that.

jimh(leave it to beaver)
jimh(leave it to beaver)

Rob shouldve played nuChad and they shouldve kept original Ben who i liked better for the part…Kate is improving as an actress…hope Sami knocks Abigails eyes out…they bug me…reminds of some insect from my cousins bug collection when we were kids…lol…i was hoping Eve was Aidens ex but it didnt turn out that way…maybe Clyde is her ex…Eve is the momma of Jordan and Ben but abandon them after Ben was born and reunited with Frankie, Paiges father?…ok, that wont turn out that way as well but i wish it had…i remember James Read(Clyde) when he appeared with Patrick Swayze in mini series ‘North and South’…i wish that civil war drama had become a daytime soap!!!

Mary SF
Mary SF

I was kinda hoping Clyde was the head of some cult and Ben was his son, but Jordan wasn’t his daughter, but Ben and her had the same mother. I thought perhaps Jordan was being forced to marry him, but Jordan realizes Clyde is crazy and was about to lead his community into some dangerous path, like Jim Jones, so she escaped, stole some money and took Ben with her.

jimh(leave it to beaver)
jimh(leave it to beaver)

Thats really good…i like that…hope it turns out that way…very interesting!!!

megae
megae

So it was ok for Sami to cheat on Rafe with EJ? EJ created on Nicole with Sami. Sami is going way overboard!

Bobbi
Bobbi

Abigail is perfect for Ben They are both hypocrites

augirlie
augirlie

Adore Kate Mansi and her portrayal of Abigail Devereaux! EJ and Abigail have been such a beautiful surprise for me! This couple brought me back to Days after a long absence! I am really hoping James decides to come back in the future! Thank you Days for this exciting story.

JaneDigby
JaneDigby

I’m looking forward to this secret FINALLY being out. I really want to hear Theresa’s commentary on Abby’s little hobby. 😉

Rod
Rod

I love Abigail can’t wait to each this all play out!!! Love her and Rob together glad they cast him!!!! Loved him on the AMC online he’s a good actor!! THEY ARE BOTH GREAT ACTORS!!! LOVE THEM

Heather
Heather

I’m so happy that we’ll continue to see EJ and Abigail interact before James leaves. And she’s completely correct. That type of chemistry doesn’t just go away. I think that’s part of the reason viewers are so enthralled and intrigued by their pairing. James and Kate have this amazing chemistry and a way of playing off of each other that is completely captivating. I look forward to seeing where they go from here.

Mark
Mark

She bugs me but love Rob Scott Wilson and he makes her look good!

4ever DAYS
4ever DAYS

JG played Ben as if he were a psychopath. RSW is better in the role. He is more believable as Jordan’s brother. I like the Ben and Abby story! EJ and Abby are smoking hot! James Scott will be back. In time, Ben and Abby will be huge!!!

kay
kay

I want to see Abigail be totally humiliated in front of her mother. Abigail can act so sweet and innocent but we know how she went after Sami’s man.

Justin Gaston played Ben (not Gatson) but I like Rob Wilson much better.

CeeCee
CeeCee

EJ was not the only man Abbi plied her wares or “sweetness” on. Let us not forget Austin etc.

MBmomof3
MBmomof3

Can’t stand Abigail. I’m really looking forward to her public humiliation and Sami smackdown. She’s such a judgmental hypocrite.

marie
marie

I agree,she is a hypocrite and cant wait till she is exposed for the slut she is. I really didn’t see much chemistry between her and elvis..

CeeCee
CeeCee

@Marie: Exact replica of her mommy, Saint Jenny, with her halo slightly askew.

Patrick
Patrick

when Abs and JJ premiered… I was so excited … to see some LIFE… instilled in them… out of the house… doing their own thing…

without… and I emphatically.. state…. their mother and Daniel did not even come in to play

NOW .. it’s all these two do now… is kiss Daniel and Jenns buttock

LOL… i’m over it.

I’m on overload sick to death of the sickeningly sweet nobile… self righteous carry the cross for Salem and the Horton creed… if you will

Abs was a blast with Austin
Abs was going somewhere with EJ… 50/50 fan pull

JJ was stratosphere with Theresa.. Bev and what’s his name

now it’s all I can take to see Abs and JJ kiss Daniel and Jenns buttock

LOL… they are no longer fun with minds of their own

they are both out of high school… and they still act like MOTHER knows best

they both are good actors… who : I feel : DAYS production… needs to be rid of Daniel and Jenn… in order for these two characters to come alive again

the writing for these two has gone backburner

I still like watching , Abs and JJ .

just not at home any more. these two do not need to be saddled with the dullest pairing in DAYS history…. Daniel and Jenn… need to leave

Melissa
Melissa

Thank you for this interview Michael. I adore Kate and always find her fascinating and insightful in her interviews. Love that she confirms what we already knew: ejabby isn’t over and the chemistry is off the charts. Can’t wait to see more ejabby.

Cassie
Cassie

I love Kate and this interview!! I’m so happy James got to have this storyline before he left and I hope it temps him to come back SOON to continue it. I guess when/if he comes back we will get a triangle of Abby/EJ/Ben. Go EJAbby!

Lee
Lee

EJ was never likeable to me until he was paired with Abigail. She brings out another side of him that I do like. Their chemistry was quite surprising but they do have chemistry together in spades. I’m hoping Jame’s departure is just a hiatus and that he will return at some point to a red hot story with Abigail, the woman who could truly change his life.

Couplingchick
Couplingchick

Love love LOVE Kate Mansi & her amazing chemistry with James Scott is off the charts!!!! EJAbby brought me back to watching Days after a 5 yr break…. Only an amazing & chemistry oozing couple could do that!! Sad to see James Scott go but I’m so happy that the awful EJ/Sami pairing is being obliterated before he leaves… Couldn’t ask for a better ending to that train wreck couple… Now it’s time for EJ to move onto someone who acts like an adult & has class… And that someone is Miss Abigail!!

mari r r em
mari r r em

agree!! they were so hot together!!
wish he wasn’t leaving

samigoalready
samigoalready

Thanks for this interview. I love how classy and smart Kate Mansi is. EJ seemed to take an interest in her prior to Sam kicking him out of her bed. EJ was always very sweet to Abigail. Anyway I loved them getting together. It never made sense for a hot, rich, smart , jerkie, be all p whipped over Sami the Bull. Even though I normally don’t condone cheating, I loved that semi’s ego was checked by Abigail. Sami tries too hard to look good, Abigail is just beautiful!

Hola
Hola

I loved this interview and I love KM.
I am so excited to see what happens in the next 3 months!
Dare I hope…a bun in the oven for Ms. Abigail…?
Team EJabby

Millie
Millie

I hated Ej until he and Abby became an item…seriously! I love Kate Mansi and her and James Scott click, their chemistry is very intense and believable…..I love how they look together and I love how they act opposite each other. I hope we get one more romp before Ej leaves Salem…

Geena
Geena

I’m very hopeful they will make love again now that he knows Sami doesn’t truly love him

Dawn Haggard
Dawn Haggard

The chemistry between EJ and Abby is AMAZING! It’s just to bad that JS is leaving the show because that could have been explored in detail 🙂 And KM is an amazing young lady and I applaud her recent story line.

AMANDA
AMANDA

What chemistry???? This is beyond ridiculous!!! As James Scott said in his interviews and his appearance at the recent Canada Event, which I attended “EJ has no feelings for Abbey what so ever and never has”. That could not be any more obvious, unless you are delusional!

I have nothing against Kate, but this back burner character of Abbey only received recognition because of her connection with EJ. I think Kate is also a bit delusional. If there was any chemistry, it was from Abbey not EJ. EJ used her to keep her quiet about going to Nick about what Sami did at the river. Abbey instigated the sex at the cabin and again in the shower. It was sex and nothing more as far as EJ is concerned. The times he has been nice to her was his motive to appease her from telling Sami the truth.

Abbey and EJ are done, plain and simple! Actually, they never were in a relationship to begin with. When you only have sex with somebody, that is not a personal relationship, it is pure physical sex and nothing more. it never happened again once Sami got back into EJ’s bed. Why is that if he has feelings for Abbey?????

Paul
Paul

I never once seen James say in any interview that EJ loves Abby over Sami.

If someone’s what’s to prove me wrong and show me a link then I will eat my words. He never love any woman as much as Sami only reason this storyline happened was because Ali and Jame’s didn’t want to stay with the show any longer so it was a easy way to write them out simple as that what better way to do that than destroy Ejami.

Engrady Pind
Engrady Pind

I thought Abby and EJ were very hot together, much more so than EJ and the self-righteous, stupid and asinine Sami Brady who wants to eat the world. Can’t stand Sami and I have never understood what EJ could see in her. I do NOT want to see Sami come out ahead on anything and she definitely needs to leave the show with absolutely nothing, no kids, no lover, no money, no self-respect. I would like to have seen Teresa get her hooks into EJ instead of Brady.

CeeCee
CeeCee

Nooooo! I protest Engridy. Lol. I doubt Sami purports herself to be self-righteous…quite the contrary, Sami knows who she is and makes no excuses. She is what she is and she cares not what anyone thinks. It is, in fact, Abbi who pretends to be what and who she is not. She had a taste of the proverbial come-hither-and-bite-me-fruit and attached herself to men who do not belong to her. Jimh is on the right track when he repeatedly says that Jen is a looney tune as her mother, Laura…and now the bloodline of insanity is insidiously resurfacing in Abbi. Don’t get me wrong, I think Kate is doing a phenomenal job portraying the demure little Miss while the audience knows the lust that simmers just below the surface, umm ….skirts…a vixen in sheep’s clothing, as it were. Can you not see that Abbi is the interloper here and not Sami? Abbi herself realizes this and is repentant–that is to be admired. Yes, Sami has done “stuff” in the past that leaves a lot to be desired, but as it stands now, Abbi is the shunned one…so there is no way that Sami will not come out on top.

Johnny
Johnny

Rob Wilson is a charismatic performer, but I question why he was brought on as a newbie. With the Abigail EJ story…the timing would have been ripe for a return by Chad and I on would have been a good Chad. There would have been so much more emotional fallout if Chad was in on the equation. Writers and producers are often so frantic to hire a new “star” that they bring them in on underdeveloped, ill conceived roles. Case in point…Michele Stafford as Nina on GH. There is NOTHING about the writing, the character, or even the acting that works. Nina is not funny, she is not interesting, she is isolated, we don’t know her or care about her revenge plots, and so far, she is completely devoid of any visible on screen chemistry with her screen partners. It is a complete epic fail and disaster. Again…if the writers were so desperate to have Stafford…why not bring her on as love vixen from the past Skye? This is a character who has history and connections across the entire canvas. Instead of being on to exact same revenge against people we don’t know for reasons we do not care about at all…Skye could have been in town to avenge AJ’s death…or get mixed up in ELQ drama…so many wasted possibilities.

Johnny
Johnny

Rob would have been a good Chad I meant.

Tony Polar
Tony Polar

Regarding the two young actors playing the role of Ben, maybe Rob Wilson is a tad more likable in the part, but it doesn’t exactly require the acting technique of a Robert DiNero or an Al Pacino – I don’t mean that in a critical way, I mean everyone has to start someplace – I’m just saying that thus far, the role hasn’t required any intricate dramatic skill.
Perhaps as time goes by, we will see some confrontation scenes between Ben and his father which will display some dramatic flair –

Laura
Laura

I am always left confused after a Kate Mansi interview. I have yet to see Stockholm Syndrome, a Disney Princess moment and this chemistry that is supposed to exist between EJ and Abby. I liked James interview better where he said EJ had no feelings for Abby whatsoever. I am sure Kate is a nice person, I just haven’t liked her interviews or the character she portrays.

Kate
Kate

Well, now you can say you have seen Stockholm’s Syndrome, because that is the only way to explain Sami’s “feelings” for EJ, the man who raped her. The trauma of that experience has messed with Sami’s psyche. What Sami feels for EJ has never been love and never will be love.

Laura
Laura

Um….no.

mike
mike

Justin was a terrible actor, Rob Wilson is a vast improvement

KG
KG

I sure hope EJ and Abby find a way back into each other’s arms. They are what daytime is all about! Unexpected chemistry! Romance! Yes please!

Kay
Kay

Ejamis grow up!! EJ did Abby and it was hot. No need to get personal. Remember what JS said about f($&# idiots. Dont be one. 🙂
And whatever you put out there on the net is there forever and only reflects badly on your whole fanbase.

Laura
Laura

And attacking an entire fan base only makes you look silly. I have never said anything in a personal nature against KM. Only that her interviews leave me confused, I even said I am sure KM is a nice person, I just don’t like the character she portrays. There are people in ALL fan bases that cross the line, including EJabby fans! So please don’t tell me to grow up, I am grown and act accordingly.

Lee
Lee

Yes. 😉 I recall JS also saying in his last interview here that he liked the EJabby storyline and thought it was received well… He also said how much he enjoyed working with KM and praised her as an actress. Goes to show JS pretty much knows where all the negativity has come from and he called those fans out accordingly.

Monique
Monique

Pot kettle 🙂 remember that actors working together eventually become friends. Regardless of how the story lines affect us fans. They have each other’s back, maybe not all of them offcourse. In other words JS would say the same if he was asked about you Ejabby(s) calling Ali all names in the dictionary. People are not blind on twitter!

Lena
Lena

I don’t know Kate Mansi, so I don’t have an opinion about her personaly, but I DESPISE Abigail. I also despise this story.

It’s disingenuous for people to point fingers at critical statements about Abby/Kate when those same people have called EJ a rapist every day until he had sex with Abby (now he’a suddenly just misunderstood, but he can be redeemed by the love of the precious perfect princess – Hah!) and have talked trash about not only Sami, but Alison Sweeney on a daily basis for six years.

James Scott said in his interview with Michael Fairman that this story was a slap in the face. Alison Sweeney said she’s always been a company girl, but this story threw her for a loop. If either of them were wavering as to whether they would leave the show, I feel certain this story helped make up their minds.

As for this particular interview, even Michael wasn’t able to work his normal magic. Once again, I feel like I’m watching a different show than the one Kate Mansi is talking about.

CeeCee
CeeCee

I hear you, Lena.

CeeCee
CeeCee

Hey, Sami…you go, girl !!!!!!

Gerry
Gerry

NuBen has a major case of butterface. The first Ben was fine enough so something behind the scenes must’ve gone down that led to recasting Ben.

Glad Kate Mansi is getting recognition for her talent. Alison Sweeney was unwatchable when she was Mansi’s age. Haters gonna hate but good on you, Kate!

Tee
Tee

Great interview!!! EJ and Abi have such wonderful chemistry.

MBmomof3
MBmomof3

The more this story goes on the more I HATE Abigail and really could do without Kate Mani. She’s just awful and very limited as an “actress”. Blech!

Brad Ford
Brad Ford

Kate Mansis stupid I don’t like her at all

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Ron:  We were talking about bringing Jack (Matthew Ashford) back right around that same time we had the Will story.  We couldn’t bring two people back from the dead at the same time, and that’s why Jack’s return kind of got put on the back-burner, so we could do the ‘Will is alive’ story arc.  Look, the audience will go with you, especially if they want somebody back desperately.  They will overlook how did it happen, and how could they be alive.  They will accept almost any explanation, but I think you’re right, if you do it too much, you tend to water down the permanence of death … especially deaths that you saw on-camera.

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Viewers know you love doppelgänger storylines.  And, in the time jump you brought back none other than Hattie Adams (Deidre Hall).  Why the decision to bring Hattie back at this time?  I know Deidre loves playing her.

Ron:  I think Deidre likes playing something different than Marlena, because she played Marlena for many, many years, and she knows her like the back of her hand.  Hattie is an escape and something fun, and the chance to do and say outrageous things that Marlena would never do.  So, we bring her back whenever we can to have fun with, and again, it seemed to work because  she was in prison, and we set Eve in prison when we started the time jump off, and we’re like, “Who’s Eve (Kassie DePaiva) going to be talking to?” and we’re like, “Oh, well of course.  It has to be Hattie.” (Laughs)

When do you first see the fruits of your labor?  Do you see a feed from the set as the show is taping? Do you receive episodes where you see how what was written has come to life? 

Ron:  In prior shows, One Life to Live and on GH, I saw it when it aired. At One Life, I was in the studio, so I often saw production shooting scenes.  Here, they send me the completed shows once it has been completely edited, the music has been put into it, and it’s all ready to roll, and they email me the link to 5 or 6 shows.  So, I could in theory watch a couple of weeks ahead of the audience, but I tend to (unless I’m so, so curious about how a certain thing turned out) watch it when it’s on TV.

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The “Lani (Sal Stowers) and Kristen (Stacy Haiduk) joining a convent” storyline is at a critical point in story.  How did you come up with the decision to put Lani, and of all people, Kristen together and about to take their vows as nuns, and kind of becoming bff’s?

Ron:  I mean, you can’t imagine sort of two more unlikely friends as Kristen and Lani.  We grew to really love the relationship that developed between the two of them.  I think we sat down and said about the time jump, “There have to be enough big changes that you do the double-take.”  Like, Will is Ben’s cell mate, Adrienne is dead, and Justin and Kayla are together now.  You had to have enough of those WTF moments to justify passing a year of time.

You have also been writing series for the DOOL app.  What did you think of Chad and Abby in Paris with that being the initial one and how it all came to pass?

Ron:   It was fun.  I had no time.  I was writing six episodes a week of DAYS, and I was asked “By the way, can you write two seasons of a web/app show for us?” (Laughs) Greg Meng (Co-executive producer, Days of our Lives) has really been the mastermind behind this app and developing this app into something.  I love all of the stuff you guys came up with for all the behind the scenes content, but I know that Greg really wanted original series content on it, too.  Chad (Billy Flynn) and Abigail (Kate Mansi) just seemed like the logical couple to do that with.  You wanted somebody tied to Salem that wasn’t currently on the campus, but you know the audience cares about what their up to, and Chad and Abby just seemed perfect.  The process was totally different because I’m used to writing six outlines a week that are 15 pages long, and all of the sudden, I’m like, “She comes in, this happens, and this happens.” .  That’s like a whole episode of an app series right there.  Corday Productions produced it while they were producing the regular show, and they made a special set into Chad and Abigail’s apartment, which I thought looked incredible.

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Chad & Abby in Paris had a bit of a different look and feel then the regular airshows, which I think made it enticing.

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Ron:  I loved the look of it.  I felt it was just a little bit different than Salem.  We had the establishing shots of the Eiffel Tower and all of that stuff, and look, we had to keep it simple, but we added in Austin (Austin Peck).  We had Tony (Thaao Penghlis) come in season 2.  We had the new characters of Juliette (Rachele Schank) and Sylvie (Shawna Della-Ricca).  So, it was fun, and it weirdly just timed out so perfectly because we did 8, took like a week off, did another 8, and that last episode was posted right when Jennifer fell.

Right, so it timed perfect to get Chad & Abby back on the airshows.

Ron:  It timed out perfectly so that we could have Abigail get a call: “Something has happened to my mother.  We have to go back to Salem.”  So, you last saw Chad and Abby in Paris, and then the following week they were back in Salem.

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Now, with the kind of massive move for DAYS with the time jump, you have to figure out: “Who are the casualties?  Who am I going to lose?” Viewers learned in short order that: Adrienne (Judi Evans) isn’t alive, Haley (Thia Megia) isn’t alive, and Jordan (Chrishell Stause) isn’t alive.  What went into the decision-making process to kill those characters?  I’m assuming it was to further the story of others on the canvas.

Ron:  Yes.  Anytime we kill somebody, it breaks my heart every time, because these are like my babies.  You fall in love with these characters, and you care about them a lot, and you care about the people who play them.  So, it’s a big decision to say, “Let’s kill them.”  It may be a great story, like, “I’m going to get this amazing story if I kill X,” but that’s a person and a job, and it’s not something we ever do lightly.  That said, in a year of passage of time, you know that life and death is going to happen, and to us, it felt like to really signify the passage of time, there had to be at least one or two people who are no longer alive, and then show how that affects our story.

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Did you ever think that instead of 1 year that you’d do a bigger jump?  Like, “What if I did 5 years?”  Because it’s interesting, I was reading some comments on social media from fans who are like, “What year is it?  Is it just 1 year?  Why didn’t they do 5?” (Laughs)

Ron:  5 seemed like a lot.  I think people change physically a lot in 5 years. I wasn’t prepared to cast little children as teenagers… that would be a lot. (Laughs)  I think you run the risk of it being almost too disorienting for the audience.  Also, then it would be me having to figure out what happened over 5 years instead of just 1. (Laughs)  So, 1 year just kind of seemed perfect, and it had to be an even year so that even though it’s a crazy coincidence that Jennifer woke up 1 year to the day she fell into the coma, you needed Thanksgiving to still be Thanksgiving, and Christmas to still fall on Christmas, and that kind of thing.  So, it had to be an even year.  I think it worked out great and I hope the audience continues to go on the journey with us, because there is a lot more to come!

So, have you been enjoying the DAYS time jump thus far? Which storyline has piqued your interest most? Let us know via the comment section below.

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Noted Soap Opera Producer Lisa de Cazotte Has Died; Daytime Community Mourns Her Passing

Sad news to report on Sunday as the soap opera community and its fans learn of the passing of Daytime Emmy-winning and noted soap opera producer, Lisa de Cazotte,

Lisa passed away yesterday on Saturday December 7th after a long illness at the age of 58,   From early in her career her love of the soaps and passion for it were evident.  She began right out of college as an intern on ABC’s One Life to Live, where she worked her way up to Coordinating Producer.

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Next, Lisa eventually became the Supervising Producer of NBC’s one and only Santa Barbara.  She spent time also on All My Children, before heading back to NBC and Sunset Beach where she assumed the role of Supervising Producer there.

However, it was in 1999 where de Cazotte became the  Executive Producer of Passions, which she helmed and remained till the end of its run in 2008.  It was a show that she loved so much.  She continued her career in the soaps in 2012 stepping into Salem and Days of our Lives where Lisa was named Co-Executive Producer of the series winning two Daytime Emmy Awards. for her efforts.

Sadly, now her final gig began in 2017, when she became Supervising Producer of The Young and the Restless and won her third Emmy in the process this past year.  De Cazotte was said to still be producing Y&R at the time of her passing. She is survived by her husband, Antoine de Cazotte, and her beloved brothers: Michael Patrick Smith, Robert Terence Smith, and Brian Charles Smith.

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On social media over the last several hours, many actors, and colleagues have shared their sorrow and remembrances of Lisa.  Here are just a sampling:

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Jason Thompson (Billy,, Y&R): We lost a member of the family last night, one of our producers, Lisa De Cazotte. I first worked with Lisa when she produced the 2nd season of “Night Shift”. Years later and currently on @YandR_CBS  She was kind and smart. Our thoughts are with her family.”

Eric Martsolf (Brady, DAYS): The kindness and opportunity this woman furnished me was immeasurable. We have lost one of the hardest working and graceful producers in our genre. I will miss you terribly, Lisa. #RIP”

Michelle Stafford (Phyllis, Y&R) “Sometimes you recognize those women who are part of “the tribe”. Whether you know them for 20 years or 20 minutes… they are still part of your tribe. Lucky for me. Godspeed beautiful Lisa”

Angelica Rosas McDaniel (Ex-CBS Daytime Exec) “Last night we lost a light in this world with the passing of Lisa De Cazotte. Lisa was smart, strong, kind, vibrant, an incredible friend and an Emmy winning producer on many beloved shows. I was blessed to know her. Sending love to her family and friends.”

Michael Logan (Former TV Guide Columnist): “RIP Lisa de Cazotte, one of the truly great soap producers. A real nose-to-the-grindstone talent, she never wanted personal glory choosing instead to do the work, quietly and fabulously. Her partnership with James E. Reilly on #Passions was epic.”

McKenzie Westmore (Ex-Sheridan Crane, Passions):  “Heart broken at the passing of my Passions EP Lisa!!”

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Sara Bibel (Writer, Y&R): “Lisa was a wonderful producer, a joy to work with, and knew everything about daytime. She will be missed by everyone at Y&R. RIP”

Michael Fairman TV will continue to update this section of the post as more remembrances are posted over the next 24 hours.

Share your condolences and thoughts on the passing of Lisa de Cazotte in the comment section below.

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