Hi Harry,

HELL TO THE YEAH Sonny is W-O-R-S-E!!!!! Furthermore, Sonny doesn’t have A-N-Y moral compass PERIOD!!!!! Nope. Dude…here’s what I H-A-T-E most about Sonny: (1) Sonny does nothing but lie and/or kill. (2) Sonny acts like he’s ALWAYS RIGHT (which he ain’t!!!!!). (3) Sonny makes (and then BREAKS) promises to his loved ones…well…the few loved ones that Sonny does have. Dude…I (also) remember when Sonny broke his promise to his own son where AJ was concerned. Forgive my sarcasm (or whatever) here, but AS IF Sonny was gonna keep his promise to his son about AJ!!!!! Harry, another thing: I think that it’s VERY INTERESTING that you brought up the ‘concept of the antihero’…I agree. Bottom Line Here: In my book, Sonny is N-O-T an antihero. Nope. As far as I’m concerned, Sonny is nothing but an EGOTISTICAL COWARD!!!!!

Take care, Harry. A-C-E-S!!!!!

Here, here, Harry!!!! I’m still smarting over the grave injustices done to AJ….his was a character who had the prime potential to run the gamut of great soap emotions…pain, sorrow, redemption…even ultimately, happiness???? And it was all squandered for the sake of a salacious, gratuitous storyline that featured the most revolting and reprehensible roster of reprobates ever to inhabit Port Charles. The fact that these pusillanimous players are still present and prospering and our lost, lamented Quartermaine is gone forever(?) never ceases to make me mad and sad.

MB is a laugh riot when he is in comedy mode….witness his wickedly witty repartee with the woefully wanton Alexis just the other day. Instead of the usually moody, manic, ineffectual mafioso that (as you have pointed out) often appears to be channeling “Nick Tortelli,” I wish we would have been treated more to this amusing side of “Sonny Boy.” I still may not have warmed to the character and his lack of dimension, depth and decency, but it would have been far preferable to the dour dapper don mired in irreversible doom that has darkened the GH landscape all these years,

I caught a moment of B&B today. The moment I saw the smokin’ hot Sean Kanan on my screen I was reminded of what TIIC did to AJ and I get mad all over again. I rarely watch B&B, but seeing SK in that scene with the awesome Rena Sofer stopped me in my tracks and I was captivated. GH’s loss is certainly B&B’s gain. It was also likely an upgrade for Sean Kanan. B&B actually does location shoots, has better production values than GH and definitely a better wardrobe dept. They probably value their talent more than GH and don’t seem to have an incredibly bloated cast. A win-win for SK, I’d say. SK -1; RC – 0.

I actually like neither, CeeCee, but I will say that I cannot for the life of me understand that obviously virile chick magnet named Julian settling for the laughably lust-laden Alexis….he could certainly ttract someone less obnoxious and overbearing than her (and her decrepit décolletage….)

Hi CeeCee,

Girlfriend…your comment MADE MY DAY!!!!! Thank You. I am OPENLY GAY and age 46, BTW. Anyway, Sonny sexy? HAHAHAHAHA!!!!! Girl…that is TOO FUNNY…LOL!!!!! Let me see…Sonny sexy…um, no and No Thank You. To me, Sonny is nothing but a CONNIVING SNAKE and Carly is nothing but an OVERGROWN SLUT!!!!! CeeCee…more and more, you are a woman after my own heart!!!!! My point? You and I seem to be on THE SAME PAGE about Julian. H-o-n-e-y…I L-O-V-E Julian!!!!! To me, Julian is BEYOND H-O-T!!!!! Most of all, as an actor, William deVry (who plays Julian) is THE REAL DEAL!!!!! H-O-L-L-A!!!!!

Take care, CeeCee. XOXOXOXOXO

I agree with Cee Cee, Shay and Jaybird. Maurice is a cutie but Sonny is what you wipe off on the door mat.
Sonny has disgusted me ever since the days he slid around his black satin sheets with Karen, Brenda, Emily, Lily, Alexis, Sam, Olivia and Carly, Carly, Carly (mind you, not at the same time). Remember when he used to wear that Member’s Only jacket?
And speaking of whom and what. Look at the picture above!
You heard of Scarltett O’Hara using the drapes to make herself a dress?
It looks like Carly used Sonny’s old black satin sheets to make herself a new blouse.
Let us hope she had the sheets fumigated first.

Sonny…Thumbs down! Julian…2 thumbs WAY UP! All I could think of during those scenes is Nancy Lee Grahn, you lucky woman!

Hi, rebecca. Thank you for taking the time to express your feelings. You put so much thought, I’m sure, in your writing…I appreciate that.
Sometimes, I perhaps speak out of turn….not meaning to step on any toes. But, honestly, I found dav offensive. I had no clue he was kidding. He sounded pretty serious to me. Now, I know better. See? I’m always learning…lol
Nonetheless, I never said to dav to respect his elders. How could I have done that since I neither know his/her age nor yours. I don’t even know his/her gender.What I said was to have some respect. ….that I was raised to respect my elders and all people in general, specifically pointing out that as far as we all knew, you could be 20. He mentioned cataracts, pointedly directed at you…MAGOO, pointedly directed at you. As far as I know , the aged get cataract surgery. Mocking such a condition is completely and utterly disrespectful. I have 6 elderly people in my life that I love with all my heart. I was incensed by those insensitive remarks…not a joke to me.
Read back, you’ll see. My comment on ageism was a general statement, definitely not directed at you. He /she was very disrespectful toward Gina Tognoni also. I doubt I misunderstood his sarcasm.
If I mention my age, it’s to prove a point. There are many posters, who do not outright tell their age, but it is implied in many instances, such as talking about certain soaps they have been watching for 30 years, 40 years, even 50 years. I can only guess. If a poster says he/she has been watching GH since its inception and since High School, I can only surmise he/she is anywhere between 40 and 70. Yes?
Also, you do not find it disgusting that Carly, mother and possibly a grandmother has sex in her son’s bed? I mentioned my parents because picturing them doing it in my and my husband’s bed would be so revolting. And, not because of their age, but because of self-respect. C’mon, who does that? Maybe I’m too old-fashioned…..i am who I am….

Sonny is no better. Do you condone a behavior where he hurt his own son by having sex with Ava? I doubt it. ….but, age has a lot to do with this. Sonny should know better because of his age. What was his excuse to Carly today? I took it to mean that the devil (Ava) made him do it.
I do realize that bubbles burst and dissipate…that it’s a soap, but I wonder what mimics what? Reality versus fiction? Or vice versa?
So, are you saying that because this is what Carly and Sonny are together…their dynamic, as you put it, their unique oneness….does it means that this ‘dynamic’ gives them license to cheat and hurt those they supposedly love? That just doesn’t compute, soap or not….later.

Hey again CeeCee… A few things…you’re adorable. You say what you feel, you’re very earnest and you have a good heart. That all comes through. And I agree…Dav’s comments though tongue-in-cheek…were sarcastic and meant to offend. But since he doesn’t know me, nor I him…I didn’t take it personally. It was just his, as I wrote at the time, “charming” (read sarcasm) way of telling me he didn’t agree. I wonder how many of us would be “snarky” if we met in person like people do in a book club. Now THAT would be an interesting experiment! 😉 What I was responding to was the age issue. I guess we just see things through different eyes (oops! annnnnnnd we’re back to eyes!) ; I didn’t feel the cataracts/glasses comments was ageist…(snarky, rude, unnecessary, yes) but that is obviously this person’s way of expressing disagreement. Which leads to errrrr…tiffs. But you associated the cataracts comments with age…and if you take it literally then yes…that is what a lot of people develop when they get older. Some of the fans on this site (sight? :/ ) might actually have them! Maybe THEY’D be offended if they could actually see the comments! (Okay; sorry. Couldn’t resist.) But I just took the comment as his way of saying you must be having trouble with your eyes if you think they look alike! And yes, it was ridiculous for him to say that two people can’t resemble each other if they’re years apart. Has absolutely nothing to do with it! So in that sense, I responded (if you remember what I wrote back) how ridiculous his point on that was. (The whole thing was ridiculous because as I also wrote all he had to say was to each his own…I don’t see it.) I love how you jump in to the rescue. You fight for the underdog. So do I. That’s a good thing. But thennnnnn…we come to bed hopping and age regarding Sonny and Carly. I guess I took that to mean you thought people didn’t do that when they’re older. I think you wrote “even people my age don’t… tries to rival teens with overly-active hormones. Very tacky.” I was just trying to say well, first…they’re not that old! (from my perspective). If I thought they were tacky…I’d just think their actions were tacky…but not because at their age they shouldn’t /wouldn’t be all over each other. That attraction doesn’t stop because you’re in your forties! Relating back to GH…to me it doesn’t matter if Carly and Sonny are in their 20s or 60s…they are who they are together…and they’re drawn to each other..and yes, that includes jumping into bed. There are a lot of couples in real life who are addicted to each other….who make up, break up…in an endless cycle. I find that realistic. I’m not saying it’s smart…but I understand it. (The one thing I cannot understand and which cuts into Carly’s attraction to Sonny is when he threatened to… Read more »

Hi, jaybird. I’m wondering if a guy can be called a skank…I think the slang only refers to women. But, to me? Sonny and Carly are both skanks. They should both be tested for STD’s. Seriously, not even the younger crowd indulges in tearing into each other as these two on the show. Enough, please !!!!! I just can’t picture my parents going at it like this. Personally, it is a complete turn-off. But, I am not the only one watching. My apologies to those viewers who like watching these two groping each other.
I suppose, as a leading man, Sonny must be on top of his mountain (Port Charles and beyond) to rule with a dirty hand until his demise. However, what bothers me the most is his holier-than -AJ-I am-I am attitude and nonchalance. Sonny, please practise what you preach !

So true…lol

CeeCee…

It’s very interesting hearing your “age” perspective on a lot of things here. But… Of course we all bring our own sensibilities, values, idea, opinions, experience, etc in to everything we do…whether it be engaging in real life or just reading a book, watching a film, play or TV. But I think relative to soaps age should have no bearing. By that I mean it’s a soap. So when you say your parents wouldn’t do that…well…I would hope they wouldn’t do many of the things soap characters do! That’s the point. It’s more fun to just watch the “people” and get lost in the dynamics of their character (the character and the makeup of their characters). Some characters bed hop and that’s their M.O. It’s how they live their lives. Some are religious; some not. Some monogamous, others not. Loyal or not…passionate, crazy, funny, criminal…or not. When we watch Sonny and Carly it’s who they are together. It’s their dynamic…their history. Their age doesn’t matter…as they are who they are and they’re entwined in a dysfunctional, passionate, symbiotic relationship. I don’t watch Maxie and Nathan and think they’re younger than me…nor do I watch Monica and Tracy and think they’re older than me. I just watch and get into the characters.

Same thing in “real” life time here on the comments section. If I’m having a disagreement with someone, honestly? I could care less if he or she is younger or older than me. We’re just people …anonymous…therefore we have no face, age, religion, race. We share the commonality of being soap fans…and so I respond to a fellow soap fan as such…unless he or she makes it personal. That’s a different story. (no pun intended but so appropro! 😉 I bring this point up because on another post you told Dav… to “respect his elders’ which is cute because though you’ve told us your age I haven’t told mine…nor has this person Dav…so no one knows who they’re speaking to unless they try to surmise it by the comments and how long he/she’s been watching soaps.

I think maybe life experience…including where we live and who we’ve socialized with, worked with etc…takes the emphasis off age somewhat. (Never completely because we’re all so obsessed with it.) But I’ve had friends much younger than me…and some older than me…and so I’m used to people doing all sorts of things at all ages. Maybe when you get a bit more up there in years you’ll see there’s not that much difference in what we do and say…unless you’re talking about a complete emotionally immature person and his/her actions…In that case that person may never grow up.

Just thought I’d impart these thoughts to you my hahaha..ahem…younger…friend.

I agree. Leave the furniture and linens behind Michael. Run, do not walk, to The Brownstone.

… Laura Wright plays this well. I never really take her or Sonny too seriously – it’s a soap. It can’t be everybody perfect, happy, and law-abiding. Otherwise, why watch it? The fiction is what’s appealing.

Love Nina & Franco. Go figure.

Marauding mammoth ???? OMG. I just can’t take it any more. I have a stitch on my side from laughing. Where have you been all my life, Shay???!!!!

Glad you appreciated the “marauding mammoth” designation for Carly, CeeCee!!!! It’s always emblazes itself upon my mind whenever Ms. Jax makes one of her grand entrances….

P.S. As per Sonny’s skanky behavior, I simply choose to term him a “Man-Ho”…..

You know, Shay? I could never come up with the perfect expression to describe Sonny…LOL, you just did.
Sometimes I find it difficult to separate characters from actors, which is a gross mistake. I am sure these are nice, ordinary (I doubt it…lol) people who lead a clean life….not at all what they depict on stage. It is our job, IMO, to cut the characters ( not the actors) down or build them up at will….it is a great temptation to do so. The site is there…hard to resist? Who else is perfect for it, but yourself? You’re the cream of the crop; the best of the best, the most of the ‘mostest’…superlative….lol. Actually, I’m serious.
What really gets to me the most is when posters verbally attack other posters….sometimes openly sarcastic, sometimes through innuendo. I think I have a pretty sharp mind…I can smell them…know what I mean? But, you will say whatever is on your mind succinctly without insults. Unfortunately I am still working on owning that skill.
I always avidly look for your posts….this is the quiet, coffee time , after my rushed morning(s) with the family…..later.

For the umpteenth time, thank you for your generous comments, CeeCee!!!! We all have our own styles and manners of expressing ourselves, and I think the longer you spend time here, the better you get at doing just that. We encourage each other to grow and hone our writing skills, which is part of the fun!!!! I’ve never had a problem with those who take issue with my comments, as long as they are not profane, personally insulting or projecting untrue assumptions onto my character….disagreements and discussions are what keep these threads going!!! You can even find favorite sparring partners….for example, rebecca1 and I have a long, fond history of debating….mostly, but not exclusively, over Sappy/Snippy….and I still look forward to our verbal tanglings…..not that we don’t occasionally have moments of concurrence, as well!!! Having said that, I find you to be an absolute sweetheart, and that may be why you are so easily dismayed when a meanie tries to diss your bliss…don’t let them get to you. Nobody who regularly reads your sharp insights and well-put observations could ever doubt your shining intellect…it’s there for all to see……Try to focus on those of us who know and love your sparkling contributions…which I always look forward to reading!!! : )

Thank you, Shay…as always, I reciprocate the sentiment.

You are most welcome, CeeCee!….I can sincerely say without reservation that it’s obvious you are a chick after my own heart…we could definitely do lunch and shop for stilettos…LOL!

Carly always reminds me of a marauding mammoth in search of her next sexual prey….it’s not for nothing that someone once noted on another website that Ms. Jax is the “Ellis Island” of Port Charles…during her “times-out” from Sonny, new meat (I mean, arriving men….) usually have to pass through her (or sometimes around, if they’re exceptionally lucky….) in order to gain admission to the city. Having said that, I truly hope that when nuJason emerges from his coma he has a memory lapse in reference to the great “bonding experience” he had with Sonny and Carly….her possessiveness and preoccupation, bordering on obsession, with Mr. Morgan, has always been a sore spot for me….so overbearing and presumptive. With Sam, Liz, Monica—and especially Danny!—to fill his emerging mind, wouldn’t it be great if his horrible history as a hit man were forever lost to destroyed brain cells????

“Marauding mammoth” is just brilliant, Brilliant, I tell ya

I swear, reading Fairman’s blog and the adjoining comments from brilliant people like Shay is more entertaining than GH right now.

Hmmmm… CeeCee….that very well may be true. But as I mentioned Sonny does have a code of ethics…he won’t deal drugs, he won’t allow others to deal drugs in his territory, he’s a good father/friend….he monogamous (from what I remember other than his crypt/crazy/creepy sex with Ava in a moment of emotional torment. My point is Sonny does have a code of ethics; and yes, as you say they’re his…and I don’t see or am not aware of the specifics of what kind of code you’re looking for in a “gangsta.” Sonny’s dark; I hate a lot of things he’s done…the most abhorrent being everything he did to AJ…but at the same time after years of watching this character I know how capable he is of loving and being hurt and vulnerable. The reason he’s been so devastated is because of his broken promise to his son…and guilt over killing an innocent man…even a man he despised.. AJ. I don’t see the code you’re referring to being any different…if they kill, maim, destroy, torture, threaten, extort…their codes…whether identical or not…mean not much more.

Oh I hear you, CeeCee….we definitely share the same personal sensibilities!!!! The “anything goes” code of conduct is completely anathema to me, as well!!!! As for this being fantasy and not reality, sadly it is a true reflection for so many in today’s society.

Perhaps, I didn’t really watch then. Saw Tamara at the beginning of her time there and wasn’t wowed. But, in my view, Sonny is a pig and a bully and self-worshipping, so I wouldn’t want any woman to be with him.

Yeah, k/Kay. Jax, from what images I have seen, is , at least, her size. She does not tower over him.

I agree. I enjoyed her the most with Jax. Didn’t even hate her with AJ

@Lucy D. Though I hoped AJ would live, thrive and be in a fantastic relationship with Liz, I, too, liked him with Carly. They had great chemistry. Would have been a great irony if they had actually fallen in love…if not that…would have been fun to see them in some love/hate secret affair for a while….their mutual disdain and resulting quips, snips and barbs would have fit right into the Quartermaine domain!

I know what you mean, I find when those two are in a scene their characters seem human when together– the writers allow both Nina and Franco to be vulnerable and less intense which makes it easier for me as a viewer to watch- and more interesting– it is always a treat when soap writers manage to give these characters some layers.

Rebecca, please note that I am not talking about age here…it’s about behavior. Teens find it hard to contain it…especially boys, that is a given. That is natural and perfectly acceptable to exibit such behavior, (in private) not so Sonny and Carly. Please do not misconstrue my intent. Then again, perhaps I was not clear enough. I hope I am now.
Sex is a healthy thing between two people, no matter what age. But, it is unrealistic for people of a certain age to physically withstand 2or3 rounds one after the other without respite. Am I way off? I don’t know…never asked….lol. Later. Over and out on the subject.

CeeCee… I think like all things…it’s individual. But they depict the same for Alexis and Julian…anyway, it’s a soap. Soaps are all about love, passion, sex…bed-hopping, cheating, broken relationships, new relationships…I don’t find Sonny and Carly’s passions out of the norm for their age. And with that…yes…over and out on this subject….

CeeCee….I absolutely concur with you that Sonny and Carly’s unbridled sexual antics are extremely tacky, just as his “Crypt Tryst” with Ava was completely beyond the pale disgusting, however, I have to say Alexis and her “dog in heat” act with Julian isn’t any better. That voracious virago behaves as if she hasn’t two brain cells to rub together whenever he registers on her radar. In addition to comporting herself like a perpetually turned-on teenager, she struts around like one, too….always finding it necessary to display her goods for all to see. Quite frankly, I find her to be a pathetic and embarrassing example of womanhood. Same goes for those two terrible termagants, Lucy and Bobbie, actually coming to fisticuffs over Scotty the doughy hedgehog as if he were such a prize! And now that Attorney Baldwin has made his “pick” of the proudly proclaimed ex-hooker, it would seem that Ms. Coe will be setting her smutty sights on her next target, aka, the already spoken-for Mr. Lavery. What is wrong with all these supposedly mature females???? Can there not be any classy, elegant ladies who behave with a modicum of dignity, decorum and dare I say, self-respect???? (Other than Anna, that is…..her love scenes with “Sir Duke” emphasize love and romance in a tasteful manner….)

Yeah, Su, Sonny is a gangsta….’cosa nostra’….but, even mobsters follow a certain moral code…..Sonny follows nothing but his own code of free-for-me.
The attraction women have toward Sonny is an enigma. He must have big feet.
Nonetheless, I do share your love of GH.

CeeCee…I don’t think that “gangstas” have much of a moral code…unless it’s amoral. That aside…Sonny actually does have a few moral codes. He won’t deal drugs, he’s usually monogamous, he’s loyal to his family, friends and he has a conscience (WHEN he thinks he’s wrong). I dislike him a lot of the time…and I HATED what he did to AJ…not only in the final hour which was the worst…but the entire mocking, patronizing, violent, demeaning, threatening approach he took with AJ…and it was Sonny who stole AJ’s son…not the other way around!!!! (Did I imply I liked Sonny some of the time…LOL…yet actually I do.) But the WORST was keeping Michael from AJ, bad-mouthing AJ to Michael…and finally killing him. Even so, I actually think Sonny does feel guilty about killing AJ…of course because of what it did to Michael and the repercussions when Michael finds out…but I don’t think he likes to kill for killing sake. I think he feels genuine remorse that he killed an innocent man (even though he despised AJ).

There was a time when they showed how loving Sonny could be…the age of Robin and Stone. He loved Stone…whose death devastated him. He’s a complex character with a lot of Port Charles in his orbit, thus I find him a pivotal character…though they’ve weakened his power considerably.

As for Sonny and Carly, you know how I feel. I’m rooting for Franco to blow them both out of the water!

Thanks CeeCee.

I think Nina will say she was planning to surprise Silas. I doubt he’ll confront her, but will be suspicious. He’s caught her out of her chair once before, so he should be giving her the side-eye. I don’t think Silas is completely clueless.

I’m happy Silas confronted Nina. Glad she’s finally out of that wheelchair. A mobile Nina should be good.

Such a little detail but such a huge moment from Delia’s character.

Good point su0000. However, he did kill Michael’s dad BUT Sonny is like a father to Michael so it will be really good drama. I guess in the end Michael will protect his dad and maybe understand that Sonny did what he did with the information he had at the time not knowing Ava was playing him.

I get that, Su. But, Michael’s DNA says otherwise…Sonny robbed him of his true identity, by dirtying his mind, in that, AJ was a derelict.
IMO, it will probably be easier for Morgan to be juuuust a little bit forgiving. But, Michael will have a hard time….he was just getting to know his bio father.
Also, Michael will hold an infinite amount of resentment towards his mother, I would think.

The relationship was mostly strained,even at the best of times.
Mike was an Alcoholic and compulsive Gambler, who had abandoned
Sonny and his Mother when he was a boy… Sonny had a very difficult
time forgiving his father’s repeated indiscretions. They loved each but
the baggage was overwhelming.

They should recast. Sonny and his dad had an explosive relationship with a lot of tension between the two. Sonny resented him because he left him and his mom and Mike had a big gambling problem. They eventually came around a bit and Mike actually dated Bobbi for a while. I just dont remember how he was written off the show. It would be a welcomed character and Michael needs a grandfather, someone who can show him support.

Hi, Fanny. Sounds much like the baggage between Sonny and his sons.

What would have been memorable is “Mike and Delia” meeting up on GH.

I know, I dont remember this playing out at all.

ugggg…Ron Hale retired/Mike Corbin LOL…in rehab.

Phew! Thank you, Rebecca. I was about to say that I didn’t even know Mike was sick!

Harry my apologies,Mike was taken to a Gambling rehabilitation facility
by Sonny. He did NOT pass away.

Id like to see Robert Foxworth as a recast Mike…thats if the show brings the character back and R.F. is available and willing…