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GENERAL HOSPITAL: How Does Griffin Know Nathan … Is The Common Thread Claudette?

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The backstory of Claudette, the ex-wife of Nathan West (Ryan Paevey), has started to come to light, especially after last Friday’s cliffhanger on General Hospital.

After Nathan and Maxie (Kirsten Storms) have a major strain in their relationship over Nathan not being forthcoming about having an ex-wife, the two seem headed for trouble.  Then when Nina (Michelle Stafford) moves into their place, and Maxie heads out, Nathan tells his sister his truth about Claudette West.   He married her to get her a green card to stay in the country.  Once together, apparently she cheated on him.  Nina says he needs to make things right with Maxie, and of course, she would be upset about his withholding this information from her.

When Nathan turns the conversation to Nina’s failing relationship with Franco (Roger Howarth), she grabs Maxie’s tablet that she left behind and tells Nathan that Maxie has been doing some research …  looking up Claudette West.   Meanwhile, Maxie runs into Griffin (Matt Cohen) at the MetroCourt, and after exchanging some barbs (is this true love in the making?), the two sit down for a chat where Griffin reveals he is Duke Lavery’s son, and they just brought in to custody Carlos Rivera, the man that shot him.  Maxie is so moved about Griffin’s relationship with Duke, because of her family’s relationship with the late mobster.   She then says she understands how Griffin feels having had her beloved sister, Georgie murdered and wanting justice.

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When Griffin leaves the table for a moment in rushes Nathan!  He tells Maxie every word Nina told him to say to her to woo her back.  Nathan then proceeds to get down on one knee and proposes marriage to her!  Maxie looks thrown by it, but not in the best of ways.   When Griffin walks back in the room he sees Nathan for the first time, and it’s made very clear that he knows exacly who Nathan is.

Watch the scene below from Friday’s GH! Then weigh in:  What is the relationship between Griffin and Nathan?  Were they both in love with Claudette … or  is it something completely different involving the law?  As of now would you like to see Maxie with Griffin … or Maxie with Nathan?  Share your thoughts in the comment section below!

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Jimmy
Jimmy

I haven’t been a fan of Nathan since he first came to the show. I don’t see the reason for his character, and would much rather the show brings back Lucky as Dante’s partner. As for this storyline… who cares? I understand, it gives Maxie and Nathan something to do and shows that not every couple who seems perfect and happy is always like that. But we don’t know Claudette and likely never will.

And as for Griffin, I really like him. And I realize the show is trying to connect him to the canvas in more ways, but Nathan isn’t a core character. I think Claudette was either Griffin’s ex, or his sister.

Rod
Rod

I so agree with you about Nathan. Maxie needs a much more interesting character as a co star like the hot new Dr.

Jimh(leave it to beaver)
Jimh(leave it to beaver)

Or Griffin is really Claudette-lol

rebecca1
rebecca1

Jimh…hahaha…comment just out if the blue…funny!

CeeCee
CeeCee

Oh, Jimmy…I care not how robotic of a cop Nathan is. Look at him, so so, ….’how do you say’? Ah, oui….MAGNIFIQUE!!!! Perfect specimen. LOL.

Kathy
Kathy

I thought of that too…they would go the transgender route …or maybe Duke was also Nathan’s father

Kiki
Kiki

That’s exactly what I was thinking…lol.

Val
Val

I thought the same thing!

Lisa
Lisa

I think that Nathan and Maxie should be together

Jimh(leave it to beaver)
Jimh(leave it to beaver)

Claudette is Griffen’s half sister…who is currently in a mental hospital after Nathan dumped her and had her locked up-so not so Mr. Nice guy…lol

CeeCee
CeeCee

Good one, Jimmy. Or Claudette is married to Berlin.
Is that why Griffin looked so startled when he was introduced to Nathan? Is Claudette the link? Is it possible for Duke to have also fathered Nathan. But, Dr. O said Nathan’s father was worse than Victor Cassadine. Perhaps, Ray Berlin is Nathan’s father, who is now married to Claudette.
I always maintained that Griffin and Nathan looked so alike, they could pass as brothers. Or, Duke isn’t Griffin’s father, at all, but Ray is father to both…. Big mystery on the rise, Jimmy. LOL.

Harry
Harry

So therefore, Claudette is the new Nina.
Yawn.

Jimh(leave it to beaver)
Jimh(leave it to beaver)

I noticed the resemblance too-i just wonder why none of the characters like Maxie havent noticed???

Kiki
Kiki

I am so glad to finally see someone else who thinks Nathan and Griffin look alike. Ever since Griffin has shown up, I have been wowing about how they looked more alike than most real life siblings.

Lisa
Lisa

I agree on this Jimmy

CeeCee
CeeCee

Lol, Jimmy. Of course, Maxie should have noticed the resemblace. But, unless TPTB remove the blinders from these characters, they ” see noteeing….heah noteeing”…..Sgt. Schultz, HOGAN’S HEROES.

Timmm
Timmm

Griff is probably the guy Claudette cheated on Nathan. I would love it if Claudette was Claudia’s TWIN! That way we get back Sarah Brown AND the Zacharo’s!

tskyent
tskyent

That would be Awesome to have Sarah Brown back!

Timmm
Timmm

Can you imagine the hell she would bring down on Sonny and Michael. Oh and Carly and her would go toe to toe!

Jimh(leave it to beaver)
Jimh(leave it to beaver)

Nope-Griffen IS CLAUDETTE_SHOCKER!!!-lol

Timmm
Timmm

Wouldnt that be something but we know Nathan is not gay UNLESS he has Kristinaitis and if thats the case, DONT talk to Alexis about it!

Mary SF
Mary SF

You jest, but I think it is possible– Griffith has very feminine features, I would definitely buy him playing a transgender. Also there seem more to the story between Nathan and Claudette, perhaps she cheated on him with another woman because she wanted to be a he- or she wanted to be a he and was still attracted to men and Nathan was too weirded out to be in what would be a homosexual relationship once Claudette transition, so he made up that story of her cheating on him rather than admit his wife wanted to be a man. I think it will make a interesting story, but GH hasn’t done an interesting story in a while, so many it will be too much to hope for

CeeCee
CeeCee

I like that idea, as well, Timmmy.
Or, Ray Berlin was Duke wearing one of Faison’s masks. He lived a double life? Was he really imprisoned for twenty years? The plot thickens, yeah!!

Timmm
Timmm

I think Ron C. took all his masks when he was shown the door?

Fanny
Fanny

Love, love,love the Claudia scenario.

dawn
dawn

that would be perfect. I hadn’t even thought of that route. and being claudia’s twin would tie in so many characters. very tantalizing thought

Harry
Harry

Once again, I am in the minority. Who is Claudette? Who is cracking corn? Well, that would be Jimmy and I don’t care.
I would imagine that in a month or so we will be introduced to a new character named Claudette thereby adding to the already bloated cast.
We went through getting to know a character through hearing accounts of said character already with Nina. Silas sobbed, honked through his nose and told lyrical tales of the lovely Nina months before Stafford the scene chewer shored up to the banks of Port Charles. Now, we have to listen to Robocop go on and on about about a character we have yet to meet while poor Maxie is rendered into dullsville.
So yes, Jimmy crack corn and I don’t care.
(not you, Jim, the other Jimmy).

Patrick
Patrick

@Timmmm

oh, that’s too much…. Sarah Brown… BACK IN CHARGE in Port Charles

SHE would bring so much energy and INTEREST back to GH

the sexual sparks ! she OWNS that

Timmm
Timmm

I LOVED her and Bruce Weitz as Anthony!

Harry
Harry

Sarah Brown has already played two characters on GH and her portrayal of Claudia was an abysmal failure which is why she was killed off.
I don’t see how she could come in as a third character as that is stretching the suspension of disbelief too far.

Shay
Shay

Here, here, Harry!!! I found Claudia to be an annoying, abrasive shrew, and was so glad when Mikey knocked her off. It was actually one of the few times in the history of GH when the “Corinthos Kid” served a useful purpose.

Harry
Harry

Thank you, Shay. You’re like breath of fresh air.

Lisa
Lisa

I think that Claudette should be on the show and run into Nathan and Griffin at the sametime.

Melissa
Melissa

I have to admit that revelation super annoyed me. It’s like they are taking great pains to attach Griffin to EVERY character on the canvas. Look, the guy is a good actor and is good looking to boot. I already like him. No need to insert him into three or four story lines simultaneously.

I’m also tired of characters being introduced off camera who are supposed to have tremendous impact on a story. It feels as if they have run into a dead end with Nathan, which is why they have made up this Claudette business.

There’s also something abut Maxie’s recent interactions with — oh, just about everybody — which is making her unlikeable of late. She is sort of coming off as a hard nosed snob who doesn’t have much patience for other people’s mistakes or problems.

Jimh(leave it to beaver)
Jimh(leave it to beaver)

They run into a dead end when Nathan first showed up…but i love his mutter Dr, Liesel-lol

Timmm
Timmm

He is as flat today as he was when he first arrived in PC!

Harry
Harry

Thank you, Melissa–I thought I was the only one who felt this way

Robin
Robin

I truly think that either Nathan is the one who shot Griffin or Claudette is. I think Griffin loved Claudette, too.

Robin
Robin

I think either Nathan or Claudette shot Griffin. It was a love triangle.

Aria
Aria

Big no to a griffin Maxie pair up, he needs to get put together with Liz, plus currently in my opinion Nathan and griffin are the two best looking guys on the show , why is Maxie getting so lucky? Not fair, but also the Nathan and griffin connection if you ask me is dr O herself, didn’t she have duke ” imprisioned” all those years in the hospital before he was finally found? There’s gotta be something there?

Shari
Shari

I totally agree. Maxie already has Nathan and on again off again Spinelli. Liz needs a new man and it would be nice to see her taken out of the Nik circle if they are just going to remain good friends. I think Griffin probably was Claudette’s other man and I guess she’ll also be arriving soon.
I like Nathan and Maxie. Yes they need a story to keep them interesting and that’s fine but it is also nice to see her with someone who is good to her.

Soaphound
Soaphound

SHARI, I agree with all you’ve said except for the Elizabeth pairing. Griffin is too good for her, at least so far. How about, bear with me here, a May-November romance for Anna? Aside from the usual soap gross factor, which we’ll ignore, Griffin could be a way to rekindle her flame for Duke and he clearly needs someone more mature than his peer-group. Too close for comfort?

Shari
Shari

I actually considered that a few weeks ago! I would love to see an Anna/Griffin romance. Lol I am actually 12 years older than my husband and we have been together 16 years and have 3 children and he is my absolute best friend so it does work.
You are right about Liz. She really isn’t good enough for him.

Shay
Shay

@Shari…I recently opined to CeeCee that same thought….there is an incredible chemistry between Anna and Griffin….a totally romantic vibe. I’d love to see them become involved, particularly due to the Divine Devane’s timeless nature. Other than with Robert or Noah, she seems far too youthful for men of her age range…..(Well, except for Paul, and he’s too sleazy….and speaking of Hornsby, how about his professed attraction to Anna on Tuesday? That was too funny.) The soulful Griffin has a depth and maturity to him that would make him unsuitable for the likes of Maxie or those other flighty she-meeees of similar years.

Shari
Shari

I agree about Anna. It seems that whole her male co-stars from the past like Duke and Robert, suited her when they were all younger and I liked them now for nostalgic reasons, they now seem too old for her and she seems too young and sexy and cool for them. Finola did have great chemistry and repertoire with Jason T but they weren’t going to go there with Anna and Patrick, Griffin never knew Duke and I think it would be creepy to some but not to me. I also liked Olivia and Johnny when they were a couple.

Shay
Shay

@Shari….You’re right…Olivia and Johnny were a terrific couple! They had superb chemistry, so the age thing never seemed to be an issue with them. The only time I’ve ever had a problem with that concept is in reference to Alexis and Julian, for the simple reason that so much was made of him being slightly older than her, so what did the brilliant showrunners do? They cast a guy who is already almost ten years younger than his leading lady and could pass for another decade less than that. So, in essence you had a 20+ year perceived gap between the two, plus the obvious physical differences in terms of youthfulness. It simply never added up….Julian should have been a real silver fox male of a certain age from the get-go, end of story.

Shari
Shari

Yes! More like Paul.

Jimh(leave it to beaver)
Jimh(leave it to beaver)

What if Griffen really is a transgender and is Claudette?-lol

Shari
Shari

It would certainly keep GH current!

Anjee
Anjee

I think they are going to twist it up and do the transgender story too.

sonniorsolita
sonniorsolita

Oops, wait I read that wrong. Claudette needed a green card. (Michael, you don’t have to post this at all since I answered my own question, or rather you already did!)

Lanie
Lanie

I have a feeling that Griffin is Claudette. They are experimenting with many different current social issues. I could see them exploring this path. It’s one that, as far as I know, has never been explored. At least on GH.

Anne
Anne

Thanks for the laughs.

Hey, it could be a storyline.

CeeCee
CeeCee

Hmmmm…interesting. But, even after many experimentations, we should, at least, see some vestige of feminine quality. Griffin is all man. He seems to have a perpetual 5 o’clock shadow. And those shoulders!
I think his abdominal scar may have something to do with Nathan? Perhaps a fencing accident, where Griffin was wearing headgear hiding his face? Nathan’s epee’ nicked him?

Shay
Shay

Unless Griff and Nathan had a close encounter of another kind, CeeCee!!! Was that clever epee’ comment an intentional double entendre or just a happy coincidence?

CeeCee
CeeCee

Cracking me up, Shay…LOL.
I do admit that my mind is, more than not, in the gutter, but this was an innocent comment. Honest!!!!!
You do have a ‘point’ with these boys…GOTCHA!!
I neither realized the simile nor the pun. Look at that!! HaHa….A bientot.

Shay
Shay

I believe you, CeeCee….I was jesting, but it was a very fine double entendre, intentional or otherwise. Honestly, though, I just want Griffin to be the good guy, great doctor and general sweetheart he appears to be….no huge secrets or dark side to his character. I know it’s a hoot to speculate about certain aspects of his mysterious persona, however, for me, just being Duke’s long lost son is enough, and I hope it’s true, and that’s that. Then, maybe he can have that romance with Anna, and we can move on. As for “Claudette,” I’m already at the place where I don’t want to hear her name again.

Alan
Alan

My boyfriend said the same thing, Lanie. It would be an intriguing story in the right hands but I don’t think the current GH writers are the ones to tackle such a topic and handle it with the sensitivity it requires. THE BOLD AND THE BEAUTIFUL did a great job with the Maya story but I can’t forget the Zoe/Zarf story on AMC — that one was pretty much a mess (which surprised me since AMC had always been such a trailblazer with socially relevant storylines).

Timmm
Timmm

Griffy babys gun shot wound is from Nathan who caught him in bed with Claudette!

CeeCee
CeeCee

Ok, I’ll buy that, Timmmy. But, wouldn’t Nathan have recognized Griffin?

Timmm
Timmm

Always the wise one!

CeeCee
CeeCee

@Timmm.
Hmmmm. Well now, my Timmmy. I don’t know how to take that? LOL.

Timmm
Timmm

Wise=Intelligent! A compliment sweet Cee! I forgot Nathan didnt recognize Griff. OR is he playing off the fact that he does KNOW him and pretending not to? Either way, I smell an Emmy nom for Ryan!

Harry
Harry

Well, Cee Cee, Nathan isn’t too bright.

Abruzzfan
Abruzzfan

CeeCee – It looked to me that Nathan recognized Griffin, but as Timmm says he played it off and pretended not to know him. We shall see!

I love gh
I love gh

Now that makes perfect sense! Nathan is not so law-abiding after all… He’s hiding something – Maxie will get involved & make Nathan mad when she keeps talking to Griffin…

You nailed it.

Patrick
Patrick

with all due respect to the characters of Nathan and Maxie

especially Maxie… but I just do not want to see a pairing with her and Griffin

Maxie , for lack of better wording…. the airhead ditz …. is the problem… she’s “fine” with Nathan… I don’t even mind that they are a matching set

especially since… Maxie is FUN again… @ Crimson… and even with Nina and Dillan

if this is going to turn in to a 4some… Claudette, Griffin, Maxie, and Nathan…

so be it… I just do not want to see Griffin “dumbed” down

so far… neither Carly or Maxie are good enough

Timmm
Timmm

Nathan is a hunk BUT he is a stick in the mud. Maxie needs someone who is into fashion and clubbing! Griff isnt it either. He is a reserved professional. He would be better off with Liz.

Terrence
Terrence

My opinion is that Griffin is a transgender from woman to man. Nathan won’t recognize how Claudette looks like now as a Man. And let’s not forget the scene with Griffin and Maxie in the Hospital locker room with him in just a towel. Griffin looked down and was feeling his scar at his waist, which Maxie notice. The scar probably came from the Sex Change surgery.

Timmm
Timmm

Not a bad theory IF Anna were not involved and Duke being his dad.

Harry
Harry

Terrence, I don’t quite know how to say this but I will do my best.
I don’t think that’s quite where the sex organs are located.

CeeCee
CeeCee

Harry….you are cracking me up. Too funny, you are, sir. Maybe a medical team transplanted an ovary there? Still too high on the abdomen????? Hilarious. Oh, my Lordy Lord!!!!
That scar could be from a surgical procedure; but not the genitalia, LOL. Could be, it means nothing. I think , the area is tender, at times, and he instinctually touches it. Is it a gimmick by TPTB?
I still think Nathan is the link to that scar. Too much tension when the two came face to face. Nathan’s is (jealousy) completely different from Griffin’s ( fulminating and pensive).

Shay
Shay

You did just fine, Harry….in your own imitable fashion! As much fun as it may be to speculate with this rather now over-used soap theory, I think the notion will conclude just as fruitlessly as when so many of us thought that Fluke was going to end up being Patricia.

rebecca1
rebecca1

A person’s face doesn’t change when they become another gender minus or plus a few hairs! I don’t think Munroe’s transgender. Just a beautiful dude…

Abruzzfan
Abruzzfan

I agree Rebecca!

Alan
Alan

I think Griffin will be revealed to be the former boyfriend of Rachel Berlin (daughter of Raymond Berlin, master of the off-camera Ponzi scheme), half brother of French-Canadian Claudette (the off-camera green card cravin’ ex of Nathan), and a former doctor at Shriner’s Hospital (which provides medical treatment to sick children regardless of the family’s ability to pay) and then this mess will be wrapped up so we can get back to ignoring the fact that Sonny murdered AJ.

rebecca1
rebecca1

@Alan…perfecto! Lol…

Letemeatc8ke
Letemeatc8ke

Why dont they mak Liz a doctor. She could go back to med school and improve herself, be an example to her boys and stop being financially dependent on men to take care of her. Become a positive role model!
Then bring on Parker and her wife and she would be another female doctor. I mean it’s 2016!!!

Timmm
Timmm

A great idea! Or, put her in charge of the nursing staff. She can go nose to nose with Mudder!

Shay
Shay

But where would that leave the formidable Epiphany, Timmmbo????

Dan S
Dan S

The problem with Nathan, and I do feel bad for the actor, is that they try to write him into something that he really is not capable of playing. He’s a gorgeous man, but his acting is somewhat limited. He can’t even pull off a French accent very well:)I think the character is worse than the actor. He seems to be trying. We’ll see if the new storyline works for him and if he can make us care a bit more about him?

Timmm
Timmm

A cute man without the ability to loosen up and let it fly!

Shay
Shay

Hey there, Timmbo! Great minds think alike! I even checked for “Double C” on the non-GH threads, to no avail. Me thinks she may be opening the house on the Vineyard….it’s about the right time for that, and she said before that the internet is spotty there, so besides the iPad issue, that could also be why we haven’t heard from her. At any rate, sending good thoughts her way….paging CeeCee!!!!! You are missed!

CeeCee
CeeCee

With all due respect, Dan, Peavey’s French accent is right en pointe. He speaks with perfect accent and his knowledge of the language is impeccable. It is obvious to me he speaks flued French.

Shay
Shay

C’est vrai, CeeCee! Ryan speaks perfect French….it’s the English language he seems to have trouble delivering with any sort of gusto! LOL….

CeeCee
CeeCee

@Shay.
I lost my comment again, Shay. This keeps happening. Time for a new iPad.
Anyway, Ryan’s accent and pronunciation of the French language sounds more Parisian to me than Canadien, eh?

Shay
Shay

Oh yes, CeeCeeGirl….Perhaps he obtained his accent from “Lycee Francais de New York” …tres apropos for Nathan! Seriously, it seems to me that the showrunners are throwing all sorts of new character ideas (The Berlins and Claudette) at the wall to see who sticks with the existing ones, and as usual, it’s not working…..only causing more confusion.

Shay
Shay

@CeeCee….Per your contrast and compare comments regarding Nathan and Griffin….I concur with them. Dr. Munro has a whole lot more going on than Detective West…especially upstairs!!!!! LOL. Let’s just say that Nathan is rather, um, “basic,” and leave it at that! (Even if he does speak flawless French!)

Shay
Shay

Hey there, CeeCeeGirl! You’ve been MIA for awhile…hope it’s just iPad related, simple boredom with GH, or a combination thereof! I’ve not been commenting all that much either, at least, not of late…..I’ve been busy and most disinterested in the majority of characters which have been heavily featured these last few weeks, although I am quite livid that Dr. O. has left the (hospital) building! (But please, not Port Charles….Oh, perish that thought!) I’m waiting for more Laura and Kevin, Anna and Griffin(?) and, of course, Finn and Roxy, but NOT Carly! (Two’s company, three’s a crowd…LOL!)….At any rate, hope all is well and that you at least receive this post in your inbox. Later!

Timmm
Timmm

I’m with Shay, where are you sunshine? Its been boring without you. Hope all is well. Luv ya!

Mateo
Mateo

All great comments but Griffin is really Luke Spencer. He came back to help Laura figure out the mystery of Helena’s key. Liesl set it all up because she is the best pot stirrer. Griffin isn’t really Duke’s son. As for Nathan and Maxie? I love them as a couple and I don’t care if Nathan stands on set and pounds his chest and says, “I play football” all day long, I will NEVER tire of him. That is perfection. Just perfection. There are so many great actors on GH that I don’t mind someone being a little stiff at times. (take that any way you want to). As far as Ryan Paevy (Nathan West) is concerned I could just watch him sit at his desk at the PCPD and be into him. So bring on Maxie and Nathan. Bring on Griffin and Luke and crazy stories cause I love GH even when they muddle through some crazy quirky storyline. I hope they don’t go the transgender route, not because I have issue with it or anything like that but after seeing how safe they played it on B&B I really don’t want to see another “trendy” issue written in. Just keep the great shows going. GH has been on fire lately and I can’t wait for each episode to come.

Timmm
Timmm

Its okay to have Nathan be eye candy BUT they hand him some heavy stuff and it is so uncomfortable to watch him struggle!

Shay
Shay

I’ve told you this before, Timmm, but I don’t consider Nathan’s particular variety of eye candy to be all that tempting….I’ve never understood all the fuss about him! Now Griffin is quite another thing! As far as I’m concerned, he gives Detective West a real run for his money in the looks department, plus, he actually has an intellect and personality to match his beautiful façade, not to mention a smoldering sort of charisma and a romantic soul!!!! In other words, he’s the entire package!

CeeCee
CeeCee

@Shay.
I think they are both hunky hunks, ma cherie. However, Griffin has more of that brooding-Hamlet aura about him…….the mystery/enigma makes him so much more appealing than Nathan.
By contrast, Nathan has no magnetism except for his good looks.
As far as Claudette being a cousine francaice du Canada? C’est possible.
I still contend that Nathan and Griffin are connected, somehow. Whether this story includes Claudette, I cannot be sure. We shall see.

Diana
Diana

I still think Anna’s and Duke’s child is still alive. A while back i thought it was nathan. Then came Griffin but maybe it is Nathan and Griffin knows.

CeeCee
CeeCee

I so agree with you….I have said the same, Diana…..as have many others. I think either Griffin is Duke’s and Anna’s and was ‘stolen’ at birth; or Anna had him with Dr. Hayward, and the same ‘stolen’ baby scenario would also apply.

Diana
Diana

Or claudette is griffins younger half sister and nathan never met him

CeeCee
CeeCee

Another good premise, Diana.

DonnyGH
DonnyGH

I feel like Nathan is one of my favorites on the show right now. I’m hoping Claudette shows up and she’s not just another trouble making bitch, we have plenty of that these days. Griffin hasn’t really interested me at all so far, aside from being Duke’s son. Maybe he has a dark side? Hopefully?

jaybird369
jaybird369

OK…you know what??? This so-called business of Claudette the ex-wife and the green card is boring me to tears. Also, couple-wise, Nathan and Maxie no longer interest or intrigue me. Most of all, and at this point, I’d rather watch Nathan go G-A-Y…or evan B-I. Hey…just saying……….

Timmm
Timmm

Your right Jay, if Nathan is going to stay on the show he should “Turn” gay. I would make Claudette a guy who could be Griff and go that direction. Ryan Peavy is very handsome but his acting is not up to par with what material they give him. He is paired with Maxie. That actress burns holes in his scenes she is so good and that makes him look worse! Personally Jay, I would kill Nathan off either in May or August due to a mob issue. THAT would give Nina something to do, mourning her brother and others would be shaken. It solves a problem of “What to do with Nathan?”

Shay
Shay

@Timmm….Given the choice, I’d rather keep Nathan and kill off Nina, and I’m no great fan of Detective West!

CeeCee
CeeCee

Lol, jay….gay or not, with his looks, even a straight man would go for Nathan.

jaybird369
jaybird369

Correction: It’s ‘even’ and not ‘evan’. Sorry about that.

Rose
Rose

Claudette and Rachael/Ray Berlin “back stories” just aren’t doing it for me. They are characters with history’s that writers just seemed to pull from the sky to bring into Port Charles that have no traction or interest. Goes back to the need for good story telling again.

dmr
dmr

I’m very bored with this storyline, although I like both Griffin and Nathan. The storyline that I find most boring is Dante and Lulu working on their marriage. Since the actress was re-casted a few years ago, I’m just not interested in this couple.

CeeCee
CeeCee

Again, dmr. Thou speaketh my language.

Jay Trotter
Jay Trotter

Maxie and Griffin were more entertaining together in one episode than Maxie and Nathan have been for two years!!!

I was surprised by how much I enjoyed these scenes and really liked the writing content for each character and felt a strong chemistry for the entire conversation. Nathan is still one of the most boring stoic characters ever. Griffin has this soulful mysterious vibe about him that makes him fresh and interesting. Maxie has been thriving again as a character once they put her back in her element at Crimson and it’s time to rid her of the one note snoozefest that is Nathan. He always was and always will be the eye candy guy with very little character substance. I have always felt the Naxie pairing was badly mismatched from day one and wouldn’t be upset at all if they break up and maybe they take Nathan in a different direction to liven him up. I don’t fall asleep when Nathan is around Nina or Dr. O but the rest of the time it’s nap time for me.

One of the positive reasons in making Griffin the son of Duke was on display in his talk with Maxie given that she is both a Jones and Scorpio and those two families were close to Duke in the mid to late 80’s. Anna, Felicia, and Robin adored him. Robert and Frisco were on the right side of the law and had their issues with Duke from time to time but when the chips were down they worked together to nab a common foe. Duke was presumed dead the same year Maxie was born but they got to know each other for a few years in 13-15 so it was great seeing her telling Griffin about the good in Duke.

Toni
Toni

He is either Claudette, and they are going to do a transgender story, OR parts of me wonder, is he really Carlos’ son?? Still wondering about that gunshot wound to his stomach.

Jane
Jane

Not Ethan and not Griffin. And Griffin should turn out to be Claudette , haha we need a
shocker.

Letemeatc8ke
Letemeatc8ke

Griffin IS Claudette, (ala Caitlyn Jenner)!!!

Leslie wilkins
Leslie wilkins

I think Maxie needs to go out with d griffin Munro

Sandy
Sandy

NO

Samantha
Samantha

I whole heartedly believe that Griffin was Claudette. I think it makes sense, with Lucas, Brad, Kristina and Felix, to introduce a transgender character. So I won’t be shocked if that is revealed.

Sandy
Sandy

I love Nathan, I want him to stay. I want him and Maxi to stay together. I do want to know how Griffin falls into place. I don’t want Nathan to be a bad guy.

Sandy
Sandy

No Griffin can not be Claudet if they want to bring a transgender that is fine but not Griffin. I want him and Anna to get together.

Liam
Liam

I am still stuck on the fact that there has been absolutely no mention of Griffin’s mom being Sister Camellia from the 80’s. All the pieces fit, but why not just disclose that?? Surely, Anna would remember, but they’re not writing her the way they should. Why even bother mentioning Griffin’s mother if the writers are going to be incapable of revisiting a past that many of us watched on GH? Also, Camellia is from Canada as is the mysterious Claudette, so it makes me wonder if Griffin met Claudette in Canada or if the supposedly red-head Claudette is even his sister.

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GH’s Roger Howarth Chats On Shifting From Franco To Drew & The Stunning Story Twist

In one of the most intriguing plots of 2019, General Hospital’s Franco Baldwin was morphed into Navy SEAL Andrew Cain following a harrowing mind-mapping procedure. In all went down thanks to Shiloh (Coby Ryan McLaughlin) and Dr, Cabot (Time Winters), taking the life and memories of Drew (Billy Miller) from his flash drive and transferring them into Franco’s brain, wiping out his past and his present.  That followed the tearjerker moment, when Franco sacrificed himself to free his kidnapped stepson, Cameron (William Lipton) from the twisted procedure; that could have left the teenager with Drew’s memories or even in a vegetative state.

The recipient of this storyline – and who would be taking on another persona in his storied daytime drama career – is none other than Roger Howarth.  The Daytime Emmy- winning actor is no stranger to changing fictional identities on GH.  Howarth, played OLTL’s Todd Manning over in Port Charles, later switching to Franco (previously played by James Franco) following the legal dispute between ABC and Prospect Park.

Last week, viewers got their first glimpse of Howarth taking on the traits of Drew circa 2012, and in short order, it has caused emotional upheaval for Franco’s wife, Elizabeth (Rebecca Herbst), Drew himself, Jason (Steve Burton), and Kim (Tamara Braun)… and that’s just for starters.

Michael Fairman TV chatted with Roger as he started his journey transforming his work from playing Franco to Drew and the challenges it presents, plus the ripple effect the change will have on the canvas for many of the characters.  In addition for One Life to Live fans, Roger chats about his appreciation for his time on that iconic series in a candid, self-effacing, and special conversation.  Here’s what Howarth shared:

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When you were told that they were going to put Drew’s memories into Franco, what was your initial reaction to learning that news?  Did you think it was a great twist?

ROGER:  Yeah, I think it’s a great idea.  I really do.  Good story needs a lot of things, and this checks a lot of the boxes.  It brings people together; it provides obstacles.  There are a lot of places this could lead to.  I just think it’s really smart and interesting.  I look forward to it a lot, and I can already tell by what I have shot thus far that it’s going to be fun.

If this story is written well, what has happened to Franco will be life-altering and crucial to so many people’s lives in Port Charles.

ROGER:  What I like about it, and this isn’t lip service, is that it’s a great story because it affects a lot of people.  Those are the good stories.  Elizabeth has got to deal with this, the boys have to deal with this, Scotty’s (Kin Shriner) got to deal with it, Jason is confused by this information, and now this person in interacting with Drew, and Kim, and Shiloh.  All of the sudden, the canvas is interacting completely differently.  So, I think the writers are having fun with this as well.

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Then, there is also the character of Kim played by Tamara Braun, who Drew shares a past with.  It will be interesting to see how that relationship plays out, we already witnessed Franco’s Drew instantly smitten and attracted to her.

ROGER:  Yes, the person in this body is running under a certain set of assumptions that no one else shares.  So, yes, it’s confusing to everybody, I am sure, including Kim.

Do you see Franco eventually flipping back and forth, and having personality traits of both he and Drew?

ROGER:  No.  One hundred percent, no, and that provides a real obstacle with a couple like Franco and Elizabeth.  They are always looking for obstacles to prove to the audience that these two people really do care about one another, and that’s the purpose of a story like this.  I’m guessing and hoping that it will provide the character of Elizabeth with a particular objective because it would be nice to see Becky be able to play all of those beats.

Right, and to have to fight for something…

ROGER:  Yes, it’s very tragic.  This is a character that is accustomed to tragedy, and to see Becky play the role of Elizabeth dusting herself off, trying to get what she wants is going to be really cool.

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The tragic twist had Franco saving Cameron from winding up with Drew’s memories and being the vessel for Shiloh to use.  What did you think about how Franco sacrificed himself in order to protect Elizabeth’s son?  It was quite heroic.

ROGER:  I think the other beautiful part of this is that this was motivated by love.  I don’t see it as heroic.  I think as an actor, you’re always looking for the heart of the story, and the writers made it really simple.  He does this because he loves this kid.  Yeah, they’ve had their ups and downs, and they are struggling to figure out how they can get along, and they have a lot of things that they feel about one another, but push actually did come to shove, and I think that the character of Cameron is going to be deeply affected by that.

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This now puts Franco deep within Shiloh’s storyline and past with Drew, because Shiloh desperately wants a key piece of information locked in Drew’s memories.  So, in theory, this kind of ranks among one of the better stories you’ve probably ever gotten to tell in your daytime career.  Everyone is hoping that it lives up to its expectations in the execution of it on-air.

ROGER:  It is certainly a high concept story.  It’s asking a lot of the audience.  So far, we’re all in.  It’s a good cast.  I work with really good actors, so I’m not worried.  It is asking the audience to suspend disbelief for sure.  The good stories do.  I think Erika Slezak (Viki) on One Life to Live, getting to play Dissociative Identity Disorder as Niki and Viki that was a large ask.  She never blinked.  She did everything that was asked.  I’m trying to follow her example.

Exactly, and she played more characters.  She had more alters after that.

ROGER:  (Laughs)  Yeah!  She’s better at this than I am.  I’m having trouble with the one. (Laughs)

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What do you think about how Scott and Franco’s relationship will be affected, now that he is in essence “Drew”?

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ROGER:  There’s no part of that relationship that hasn’t changed because there is no Franco.  Franco is not around … Franco has left the building.

He is a completely new person for all intent and purposes.

ROGER:  For sure.  This soldier doesn’t appreciate being called by somebody else’s name.  He is not compassionate to the people who mistake him for this somewhat tortured art therapist that he no longer is.

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What is also interesting is that this should put you right into conflict and scenes with Steve Burton, because now you are essentially playing Jason’s twin.

ROGER:  Yes.  For me, as an actor, to get a chance to work with Steve, and to play a like-minded person, is intimidating frankly, but it’s exciting.

Also, the audience knows how Franco and Jason are such enemies, and now, he is really in his mind his twin.  

ROGER:  Yeah, Franco sees in many shades of gray and other colors, and from what I can tell, Franco as Drew sees the world much simpler.  He thinks more clearly, he finishes his sentences, he thinks before he speaks, he knows what he is going to say.  His point of view does not waiver.  He is determined.

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That’s got to be so exciting for you to get to play after all of Franco’s psychological baggage and issues.

ROGER:  I’ve got to say, it’s been a bit of a challenge for me to play someone with a different set of speech patterns and who stands differently.  Because Drew thinks and feels differently about everything; his body is the same, but his body is behaving differently, and it speaks differently, and he thinks at a different tempo.  They’ve been very patient on set giving me chances to do it badly, so far. (Laughs)  It’s not uncommon for me to get halfway through a scene and to have to start over.   I am essentially figuring it out as we go along.   I am very appreciative of the fact that they have been giving me a few extra takes to try and figure out how this guy stands.  He relates to people with a different set of space and time.  It’s cool.  It’s a cool set of puzzles.  It’s been really fun.  I’m a lucky guy.

When I first learned of the story twist, I was like, “Oh! Roger will be great in this.”  

ROGER:  I don’t know, man.  I could be stinking it up pretty badly. (Laughs)  I think there’s a trap as an actor who has been asked to play twins, and the trap is that this guy is only acting the way that he acts.  The trap is frankly to act too much because the audience is being told that he is a different person.  If I go too far to try to demonstrate that he is a different person, then it slips into parody or overacting.  Over the years, I have definitely been guilty of overacting, so, I’m a little frightened of it. (Laughs)  I don’t like the way it feels.  I know how it feels to go too far.  I have been getting notes like, “You could pull it back a little bit.”  (Laughs)  It’s pretty funny.

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In the past, I have heard you say you’d rather go to work and feel unsettled about what you are asked to play.  Does that still hold true?

ROGER:  For sure!  I’d rather go to work and leave my job knowing that it was terrible and that I get to come back the next day and make it a little better.  The best thing about daytime is how much it will stretch you and pull you and ask as much of it as you are willing to put in.

Now speaking of Franco, what did you think about the wedding reception on the yacht with Elizabeth?  Did you think that was a nice payoff for Friz fans? 

ROGER:  Yes, for sure.  I thought it was a really sweet culmination to a sweet story about these two people finding one another.  I’m glad they incorporated a large part of the cast.  It was a really good idea.

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What did you think of how all of Elizabeth’s boys (Cameron, Aiden and Jake) performed a song for Franco and their mom at the reception, and how Franco relates to all of them?

ROGER:  I think it was a really important story point, and it was nice, and it was easy to play.  They’re really good kids, and they’re also terrific people.

Franco really stepped up as a stepdad to Aiden, who had been bullied at school.  I loved the cooking scene, where Franco was baking with Aiden.  What do you think about their relationship?  I love that Franco is being very understanding.

ROGER:  I think he’s trying to be understanding.  I don’t think he’s really great at it.   I think he’s a human being just trying to figure out how to make the best use of his time here, just like the rest of us.

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General Hospital needed a big jolt with an umbrella story like this that turns the canvas a bit upside down.  How does it feel to be at the epicenter of it?

ROGER:   I really don’t think I’m the center of the story.  I’m not even kidding.  The story is that this piece of information is worn on the shoulders of Franco, but the people who are most effected by that piece of information are Kim and Elizabeth.

It will be interesting to see what the reaction is like from the GH audience.  You’re not on social media.  Will you check out what they are saying … or the feedback?

ROGER:  I’m not on social media.  But, I believe there is a guy whose job it is to track that initial criticism/support.  I think it is kind of cool that we will get real-time reviews, you know what I mean?  I actually thought about that because with the character of Franco, it took us a while to figure out who the guy was.  There was a lot of blonde hair and some missed cues, and we weren’t sure which relationship would be featured, whether it would be Franco and Ava (Maura West), or whether he would wind up in Carly’s (Laura Wright) arena again.  It took a while to figure out the best way to put that guy in the canvas, and I imagine that it will happen again.  I didn’t dye my hair for this, but I did cut it. (Laughs)

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How was working with Billy Miller in this storyline twist?  Were you there on his last day on set?

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ROGER:  Yes, I worked with Billy not on his last day, but on his last show.  He was remarkable with dignity and with class, and I wish him all the best.  He did a great job.  He is a good actor.  I’m sure he will find somewhere to go be an actor.

Throughout your soap career, has there been a story that you initially pooh-poohed, but when you did it, you thought, “Oh, this is great!”

ROGER:   There was a story when Carly and Franco were together, and they wrote a story where Franco gave Carly a gift that wound up being a camera…

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The evil-eye necklace!

ROGER:  Yes, this small seeing rye.  I just thought, every time Franco would come in and say something like, “Oh, you’re wearing the necklace.  It’s so beautiful,” while we were doing it, I was like, “Wow.  The audience is really going to hate this.” (Laughs)  However, my real-time Twitter is the subway, and while it was airing, I got on the train and sat next to this really amazing fan, who just told me how much she loved that story, and I was honestly surprised and pleased.  I am often wrong, and it doesn’t surprise me now when I am wrong  … because I was really wrong then.

You mentioned Franco with Ava which was a potential pairing. I think you and Maura West have always had great chemistry together on screen.

ROGER:  Yes, she’s a pretty great actor.  She’s great with everybody.

She is.  You knew Maura’s work first when she was at As the World Turns, while you were there, also?

ROGER:  I didn’t know her well at As the World Turns, but I knew who she was.  She’s a hard worker, and Jack (Michael Park) and Carly always had a lot to do.  She was pretty focused when she was there, but I spoke to her.  I didn’t feel like I got to know her until I got to work with her on GH.

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Last month on July 15th would have been the 51st anniversary of One Life to Live. I saw a lot of people commenting and remembering the show on social media that day. I put together four photos on a post I made about that show featuring some of the remarkable actors who were a part of it.  From there, I received hundreds of comments of how people were just missing the series, the characters, and actors they loved in it, including you.  When you look at the list of people from yourself to Judith Light, to Robin Strasser, Bob Woods, and of course Erika Slezak – it’s such an unbelievably talented group who spent time in Llanview.  Do you ever think about what an incredible experience that was, and how the fans still miss that show so much?

ROGER:  All the time.  I mean, I’m a lucky guy.  I think it really was a special building to work in, and the people who we are talking about: Erika (Viki), Bob (Bo), Robin (Dorian), and Phil Carey (Asa), and Clint Richie (Clint), and John Loprieno (Cord), the people who made it possible for me to work there set an environment and a tone that made it a really special place.  It was a really good cast, like you said, and there was a lot of opportunity for them to write a really cool story.  I wasn’t a part of the AIDS quilt storyline, but to realize that they told a story like that and incorporated that into our show was wonderful.

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Such an amazing story and One Life was telling socially relevant and important issues of our time, always.

ROGER:  I can’t say for certain, but I do believe that the original concept of the Todd, Marty (Susan Haskell), and Powell (Sean Moynihan) storyline was kind of supposed to be initially an effort to bring awareness to a horrible, violent crime.  That was a long time before the #MeToo movement.  I think it was a show where the writers had a social conscious as well and really brought awareness to a lot of different things.  That’s a great legacy and something that show should be very proud of.

Once the character of  Todd Manning took off on One Life, and how they found ways to redeem him, and how it spoke to how much the network, the show, and the audience responded to your performances, did you ever feel you had a bit of a safety net as an actor, or were you like, “I’m going to be fired tomorrow?”

ROGER:  This is truth: I am so grateful to have a job, and I don’t take anything for granted.  I don’t think anybody is safe in this business.  I just don’t.  I just don’t think anybody gets to say that they’ve arrived.  I just did a roundtable, and I shared this with people who have a lot more clout and opportunity than I do – that actors are by nature, the good ones, are aware that every day that you get to go to work is a privilege, and don’t waste it.

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In soaps, for the most part, when someone is stepping into someone else’s role as a recast, or actor who played one role is changing to another, there seems to be this reactionary period of adjustment, and then, there is acceptance from the audience over time … unless you really stink it up  … as you say. (Laughs)

ROGER:  Here’s the thing, and this is why I think this is such a great idea, it’s not about me playing this part, it’s about how Elizabeth, who has been on this show for twenty-something years gets to react to it, and giving her the ball.  It’s flashy that Franco is Drew, but it is really and Elizabeth/Kim story.  I may be the one overacting and stinking it up, but it’s theirs. Do you know what I mean?  It’s not my story.

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What do you want to say to the fans about this new “role” you are taking on at General Hospital?

ROGER:  I want to say that I really do appreciate the fans.  Here is the thing, they’re down for everything.  I hope they’re down for this.  It’s a big ask, but I really hope that they like it.

So, what do you think of Roger as Andrew Cain thus far and how the storyline is beginning to take shape?  Are you excited to see how Franco becoming Drew (through the mind-mapping procedure) shakes up the canvas? Do you hope Drew returns to be Franco sooner than later? Share your thoughts and theories via the comment section below.

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GENERAL HOSPITAL: Franco Looks In The Mirror … And Believing He Is Drew Kisses Kim

This week on General Hospital, viewers have seen that when Franco (Roger Howarth) awoke from his mind-mapping implantation  (thanks to Shiloh and Dr Cabot) he woke up saying that he is “Drew Cain”.  Thus, as far we know, Franco now carries the life and memories of Drew from 2012 and back, and as of now, has no trace of Franco’s memories.

When Elizabeth (Rebecca Herbst) and Drew (Billy Miller) try to make Franco understand in his confusion what transpired,  Liz brings a mirror to Franco to see his face, which makes this all the more terrifying for him.  Liz insists to him that she is wife, but he tells her that he is sorry but he does not recognize her.  Franco insists he is going to leave town and Drew asks him to please stay put, as Liz promises that they can reverse what happened to him.  But can Liz really promise that?

Later, Scorpio (Tristan Rogers) fills Sam (Kelly Monaco) and Jason (Steve Burton) in on what happened and how Franco now was implanted with Drew’s memories, which leaves them stunned.  That means Franco, who is one of the people Jason loathes most in the world – now believes he is Jason’t twin brother.

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Meanwhile, as Kim (Tamara Braun) and Julian (William deVry) prepare to leave Port Charles for Manhattan and start live anew, (so Kim can not be haunted by her life in Port Charles from the recent death of her son, Oscar) things are about to make a shocking turn … for her.

Back at GH, Liz is upset when Franco decides he must get out of his hospital room.  Liz is scared he will just skip town knowing he feels he has no ties there.  Drew reassures her that because he is a version of him, the pull will be way too strong for him to exit Port Charles.

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Kim is now at the hospital getting ready to turn in her resignation letter and runs into Franco.  He recognizes her and calls her “Kim!” You can tell he is quite smitten with her.  Kim is not sure why Franco is acting that way.  She announces she is leaving Port Charles to which he says he is going to come with her. She sees he has a hospital ID bracelet on, so she thinks something has happened.  Just then, Franco tells her about the first time Drew Cain and her met up! This shocks Kim  … and the next thing you know … he moves in for a major kiss and lip-lock as Drew and Liz look on.

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So, what do you think of the story turn thus far that has Franco now with Drew’s memories and with no trace of Franco? Share your thoughts on the twist via the comment section below!

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Constance Towers Returns To GH As Helena Cassadine … But Just How Does She Appear?

Now, any General Hospital fan knows that if there is skullduggery and evil going down, Helena Cassadine (whether dead or alive) is usually somehow involved when it comes to the lives of certain people in Port Charles.

And … some major storyline news from TV Line reveals that on next Monday’s August 19th episode of the ABC soap opera, Constance Towers reprises her role as the evil one herself … Helena!

Apparently, look for Helena to appear in a flashback with none other than Shiloh (Coby Ryan McLaughlin) and about Drew Cain’s time in Afghanistan.  That scene might hold a key to just what Shiloh wants now that he has implanted Drew’s memories into Franco (Roget Howath), thanks to Dr. Cabot’s work.  But could what is revealed also relate to the story that will see Billy Miller (Drew) exit the canvas later this month? Stay tuned.

Viewers last saw Helena alive in story until November of 2016, but then she was part of Jake’s hallucinations that were a part of the chimera storyline that climaxed at the Nurses’ Ball back in May of 2017.

So what do you think Helena’s presence in a flashback will reveal? And, who is ultimately having that flashback? Share your thoughts via the comment section below.

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