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GENERAL HOSPITAL: Is Luke Spencer Under Mind-Control From Helena Cassadine … Or Is This Just Another Red Herring?


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On Thursday’s episode of ABC’s General Hospital, Lulu (Emme Rylan) comes to visit Luke (Anthony Geary) in jail. She believes that Helena (Constance Towers) has Luke under mind-control, as she had done to Lucky in the past, and is doing to “Jake” (Billy Miller) at present.
What other explanation could there be for her dad’s despicable and out-of-character behavior over the last year or so? As the scenes between the father and daughter play out, clues uttered by Luke would indicate that he is not under Helena’s mind-control spell. This opens up the possibility of theories that “mind-control” may not be the culprit for Luke’s behavior.
Elsewhere, Nikolas (Tyler Christopher) helps get Helena immunity in exchange for information on how she is controlling both “Jake” and Luke. After Nikolas blackmails Scott Baldwin (Kin Shriner), Helena is released from prison. The villainess matriarch of the Cassadine clan apparently wrote down what she knows of what has happened to “Jake” and Luke and hands the information over to Nikolas while Agent Sloane (Grayson McCouch) looks on. At the end of the episode, Sloane comes down to “Jake” and Luke’s jail cells and tells the men, “You two are going on a little field trip.”
So at this point in the Fluke/Luke storyline, do you truly believe the answer to Luke’s behavior is mind-control via Helena? Or, could it be that this is the real Luke Spencer, and the Luke Spencer we knew all these years who was the good guy was the imposter? Whether you love or hate the storyline, what is your best guess as to how this will ultimately conclude as to the true identity of this legacy GH character? Share your thoughts in the comment section below!
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To be honest, this “Fluke” storyline has pretty much put to rest my interest in GH. Moving on…
Yes, yes, yes! The story is BORING!
Yep, move on, please!
The writing is immature and boring.
Yes Denisefan, I agree. And usually those two variables do not go hand in hand.
I do not think it is mind control, it is most likely something the audience have not considered. Luke is a legacy character, the producers and the writers would never have Luke try to murder people, including his daughter,sister and nephew without there being a major twist that will payoff soon.
Robert, I do believe this audience has considered every possible venue concerning the Fluke storyline. We are not talking about an amateur audience here. This site has some of the most intelligent and astute posters I have ever seen. This audience is quite savvy and wise. I cannot say much because I’m a newbie, but our fellow-posters, including yourself, have exhausted every scenario. I did propose, however, that the potent drugs distorted Luke’s perception of what’s right or wrong…..he’s just so bloodthirsty, nothing else matters. If that is the case, then there is still something good buried within him. Perhaps… Read more »
“…This site has some of the most intelligent and astute posters I have ever seen”
giddy time
when so many of us have watched for decades plus
this site… thank you MF : is “shared” meaning and heartfelt of the best genre of ANY medium
LOL
“…he needs to leave for an extended period of time again to detox ”
I’d live in Amsterdam for a spell
Fluke is not Luke ….
I followed the clues– Luke and Fluke are not the same person.
When Fluke said he was Luke that was said- sarcastically -by whomever is Fluke..
That was Fluke having a self-laugh over it all ..
I just don’t think the writers will be able to explain who Fluke is or why he acts the way he does in a believable way. The explanation will have to be extremely convoluted. Luke getting drugs at his initial stay at Miscavige that fried his brain would be believable, except he approached Julian over a decade ago to take down Sonny. Mind control doesn’t work because Luke shot Helena, two years ago and she was trying to kill him with poison. Robert, if there is some explanation that no one has thought of, it will be completely out of… Read more »
With all the mentions of Patricia and seeing the old Spencer house, I think it’s pretty clear that there was abuse and maybe a murder back then, like Luke killed his terrible father or something…. There’s been a lot of talk through the years of their bad childhood but I don’t think anything specific….
You are right, many a legion of fans have discussed every possible theory in regard to Luke’s murderous behavior and I agree with you the audience is a smart one and I figured the writers and producers know this, that is why I believe they are trying to be a step ahead of the fans and that is why I am confident they are planning a major twist that will respect the audience’s intelligence.
Thank you, Cee Cee. You can be my ghost writer anytime.
Love, Maverick
(From Top Gun)
Mind control makes no sense because if Helena had him under her control why did she allowed him to shoot her on the Haunted Star? Why did she poison his earring to kill him if she could control him? And Fluke first made his appearance in PC when she was “frozen” waiting to be revive by Robin, whose procedure hadn’t been proven yet. No either Luke had a twin brother we never knew about or Luke has multiple personalities that come out at different times– like those times Luke would disappear, he could have been Fluke–then he would come back… Read more »
Could it be possible,that Lucks father was having sex with is older sister,and luck killed both of them
Well, mind control would make you seem like to everyone including Lulu you are not who you looked up to all these years. She knows it and it hurts her. And speaking of Lulu, this actress finally got to shine and have a decent scene with TG. She is talented and capable and I really like their scene in the jail together. Anyway, I still think the real Luke is locked away on Cassadine Island and this is an impostor.
Totally agree Emme scenes have been awesome
Every episode makes this storyline worse. Suspense is not heightened. So in about 20 seconds Nicholas persuades Scott to grant full immunity to Helena? Is she going to go through the motions of de-programming Luke and Jake? Reveal the full story of Luke now!
Exactly, Anne.
nawww .. there is not going to be any deprogramming of Fluke, he is what he is supposed to be.. and Jake, well he might need a tweak lol .. Scott to grant full immunity to Helena, well he can do that in a heartbeat if wants to and he did to save his his own ass.. it was just that simple.. the big problem is; People are way way over thinking it.. When you overthink you change things, create things that you believe as the way it is, over thinking can and does distort.. Over thinking this story will… Read more »
In other words, according to Sue, it’s the viewers’ fault.
I like the storyline but i also hate parts of it…Ron C. is no Henry Sleazer when it comes to mystery writing(Henry S. was Edge Of Nights headwriter for nearly 3 decades…his mysteries where well paced character driven stories that had a beginning, middle and an end…it too had fun twist and turns but didnt go over the top campy with no sense dialogue and messy plotting like GHs)…however GH still has entertaining moments here and there and…i like some of the twist and turns and suspense but this storyline feels endless…it goes on and on like no ending in… Read more »
Truly an impressive post, Jim.
I don’t believe Helena is controlling Fluke. Perhaps it is Luke, a new Luke turned monster. It’s very possible that his brain has been so battered with mind altering drugs to obliterate any human feeling he might have had……voila’ Fluke! In a way, this is the end product for which Helena was aiming. Other than that, I draw a blank.
I think you are mistaking Luke for GHs writer Ron C.,…lol
You’re probably right, Jimh. HAHA. Later.
wouldn’t it be FUN if Helena… did get !!!!
this would further , the dashing, daring, delight, Nikolas now IS !
that way thee : “mind altering” imagination guise… LOL would dare more
with Jake and Nikolas… c’mon Helena : don’t stop now…
fluke/luke can respite in Holland, Amsterdam
sorry Tracy
A did storyline. Bring Viki from llanview to town.
No no no, Viki was yesterdays news.
A split personality would do a lot to explain things and would also explain why Luke frequently skips town without explanation. I don’t think Helena is controlling Luke in any way. If she could do that, why would she wait until now? Also, what is the end game here? We still don’t really know what Luke and Helena are up to.
interesting question. what I would like vs what do I expect to happen? My best guess is there are reasons for what Luke did, and the change in him somehow goes back to helena’s poisoning of him and the “cure” for the Poisoning. I don’t buy a Luke was exchanged back in the 90’s with Bill Eckert. In my heart as a viewer of 39yrs, if this will be the exit for luke I want it to end with Laura, she comes to help him and for her to take care of him they way he took care of her.… Read more »
I agree, Rob. I said above that strong drugs , which you call “cure” , were administered and, subsequently, bedeviled his brain…LOL
Painting Luke/Fluke into a corner, must be getting close to one of TG’s vacations.
Yeah…I hope his vacation is permanent this time.
CeeCee, you get a timeout! Tony is awesome!
i agree with you : mainly because.. Tracy was on top… dynamic… womanly with Joe Scully, jr. romantic, in love, a virtuoso… HAPPY
if only the show would bring him back !!!!
exit AG
At this point does anyone care who Fluke is? So done with this story. It is absolutely absurd how they portray the legal system. I realize this is supposed to be entertainment but it is just too stupid to be entertaining. How many times does Helena have to die before she is really dead? Just ridiculous. Just been FF through the whole show in 5 minutes. I just wish we could get General Hospital back
I hate this storyline more with each passing day. Please just end it. I no longer care who, what, where, when, or why.
Dont’ know… don’t know… end this stupid storyline already. it’s been a damn year.
I really don’t care who or what or why Fluke/Luke (Yuck) is doing what he is doing. I’ve watched GH during the highs and the very lows and the weird but this is tedious and beyond anything except my DVR fast forward. Move on already – let Fluke/Luke marry Helena go off into the lower part of the world and stay there.
I don’t have anything to say on the subject. I am so burned out that they need to come up with a new word for being this burned out.
I never thought I would be singing BB King’s “The Thrill is Gone” when it comes to anything to do with Luke Spencer.
And here’s another song I am singing. “Jimmy Crack Corn and I Don’t Care”!
awww dear Harry.. this has been one helluva a journey! I had fun.. the next couple of days will tell all, the who is .. Harry, have you been over thinking the ‘who’ is? It has been easy to follow if ya do not over think just go with what is written, what is before you, and then there is no problem following along.. overthinking fiction is not cool.. it will only make the story what it is not meant to be because it has become jumbled up by overthinking it .. lol 🙂 the clues were dropped, no problem… Read more »
And I HEARD IT THROUGH THE GRAPEVINE, that Ron doesn’t care if the fans care or not.
I have never wished death on any character. But, Luke/Fluke needs to be buried. Then again, he’ll be baa-ack!
Not watching any longer until it is over sorry TG is making a mockery of the fans of this show and all my friends who watched quit six weeks ago. 🙁
Well, GH seems burned beyond recognition to the point it doesnt look like the show i fell in love with so many years ago…im still entertained here and there but i dont rush home to see it like i used to!!!
And Cee Cee…”I’m about to lose my mind, hurry, hurry.” Also, Tony Geary has basically said he doe snot care what the audience wants. Suoo, there’s a problem when your entire defense of GH lies with you blaming the viewers for not being good viewers. I have been an ardent admirer and fan of Tony Geary’s since I was a child (In other words, for about one hundred years). For me to criticize him is a big deal–it means something is inherently wrong. I cannot even stand the sight of him anymore, and I never ever thought I would feel… Read more »
Let’s just hope this isn’t the beginning of ABC starting to push GH over the cliff like they did AMC and OLTL. This time using a story, and even a favorite for years like Tony/Luke, that many loyal, regular viewers don’t like so they ” don’t rush home to see it” anymore. I guess I’ll never really trust ABC.
If they are doing that (and it certainly seems plausible) they are doing it with TG’s blessings. Really says something when you have a head writer and a lead actor with massive egos who couldn’t care less what fans think. I wish both of them would be gone yesterday.
No idea if it’s DID or Luke gone bad (brain-fry from drugs/Helena) – or if it’s the proverbial long-lost evil twin, but this story needs to have a big payoff! I loved the “Lizard Lounge” banter between Scotty & Ric in court on Thursday’s show! Funny..
I stopped caring about who fluke is many episodes ago. It’s boring, please finish it. I love Geary but even he has to admit this ship has run it’s course.
the story actually started 4 months back.. the usual time for lead soap story is 4 months and ending times for sweeps.. The story time is right on spot.. (before Tony needed to leave the story was just starting and there was a 6 month pause.. Seems some people are wore out from thinking, not knowing is killing them because soap stories are usually very transparent and we know who after the first week.. Not so with this story.. it did make people ‘think’ and to wonder and kept most in a dither/boggled because they do not know the —… Read more »
When I want to think I will re read James Joyce’s Ulysses or Dostoevsky’s The Brothers Karamazov. And I do enjoy a good mystery as long as the clues leading up to solving that mystery form a trail of bread crumbs.
All these inconsistent clues are providing is a maze of confusion which will ultimately lead to disappointment.
It’s Luke’s evil twin that no one ever knew about…..
If only they could
I so hope its not true and this is the real Luke!!! I loved the old days with him and Laura and their kids!!! I will be so disappointed as a long time fan for over 40 years!!
I love the story. It gets everyone talking and guessing. Greatest show and possible Emmy winning role for Tony Geary.
We need to move beyond the Luke/Fluke storyline, it has dragged on
longer than necessary and I’m no longer interested, in who he is or isn’t.
His hateful words and indifference towards the people who still believe
and love him unconditionally is unforgivable.
Drop the wretch down a flight of stairs ( without hurting Tony’s back )and
see if that jogs his memory.
THE LONGER THIS STORY GOES ON THE WORSE IT GETS..IF IT WASNT FOR BILLY MILLER I WOULD HAVE STOPPED WATCHING…
I am in LOVE with Liz… she’s breathtaking… whomever she’s with… it’s a tug at the heartstrings… whomever she scenes with my heart wants that it’s “Jake Doe” because he’s better with Liz than either Sam or Carly…. GH do not dull the senses… it’s Liz all the way therein… the malady.. because so much is happening for Liz right now Rick Hearst : Ric Lansing is dynamo!!!! DANG the smolder is still turning with Nikolas the chemistry with “jake doe ” is off the charts I’m in love with Liz… I have to submit: I’m so in love with… Read more »
ps: add to the above…. Ava ava AVA… w/Morgan
theres a lot of magic stirring
the HEAT between Anna and Sloane …. alot
Lucas and Brad are bringing so MUCH
Felicia and Mac for auld lang syne
capture my heart
Patrick, agree about Lizzy. She is an eternal beauty with that perfect porcelain skin which never seems to show the trespasses of time.
On another note, I am so damn sick of Helena. She makes my skin crawl and not in a good way. (yes, there is a good way, and this ain’t it!)
Harry, I completly agree with U where Helena is concerned.
Nick should do to her what she did to Katherine bell…….
I FF all these scenes, just like I do the Sonny and Ava ones. To me, it’s like Twin Peaks or Lost. The storylines don’t seem to be mapped out far ahead or in much details. They just go for crazy. That’s why you have so many contradictions and inconsistencies.
the original rapist luke was replaced by a good twin (maybe caught him getting ready to do something evil and forced him into a coma)–helena finds the real luke along the way and resurrects him–original evil luke wants back at everyone who was part of nu luke’s life
or this is all happening in a snow globe and luke is married to Helena and they are both in a retirment home in Florida and General hospital has been his fantasies while they are playing endless games of bridge
That snowglobe part sounds somewhat like another hospital…ST. Elsewhere when that show ended with an autistic child with a mini St. Elswhere inside the globe and all the hosiptal drama was part of the childs fantasies…lol
I’m pretty tired of the story line too, but also understand that it would probably be wrapped up by now if Tony G didn’t have to take a leave of absence to heal. My take is that this is NOT mind control and this guy is NOT Luke. It’s his sister Patricia who probably looked a lot like Luke and had a sex-change and is now taking “revenge” on everyone for some reason.
Think maybe Luke has a twin? How old is sister Patricia? Could they be fraternal twins…then she had sex-reassignment surgery (along w/plastic surg!!) & came into PC to wreak havoc upon everyone’s lives related to Luke?
I agree with many of the comments, this story line was never very intriguing to me. Mix that in with the excessive duration and it makes for a dreary combination. I hope Fluke somehow is Bill E. because at least that would allow those of us who are Luke fans to still adore him instead of finding a way to ignore his reign of evil. GH doesn’t need these far fetched story lines to be compelling. Let Maxie get a job. I miss her work antics. Jack also needs employment. Michael needs to quit whining. (his complaints are legit, but… Read more »
This story is the common/usual 4 month run for a lead story..
It had just started when Tony left he returned in Nov..
and there have been many other stories going on at the same time..
Franco and Nina..
Maxie and Nate
Jordan and Shawn
Anna fired
Jake and his identity journey
Sonny and Julian
Carlos and Johnny Z were back
Michael freaking out every other day
Patrick and Sam
Tracy and Ned on screen also Oliva
not to mention other stories happening during the Fluke story..
If some watched the just the Fluke/Luke story that was up to them lol 😉
and during the Luke story ;
Ava had her baby .. Nina and Ava were brilliant! Franco and Nina took off with the baby and Silas helped Ava..
So much happened during the Fluke/Luke story..
I LOVED IT ALL .. WAS EXCITING FUN !!!!
Here it is Valentines Day Eve and GH Super fans, I just thought of a theory, perhaps a story for Ron to appease Tony Geary and GH’s fans. Perhaps Luke did have a twin and this guy Fluke is the evil one where Tony gets to go out with a bang and say FU! Maybe he dies or leaves town with Helena with a ton of money, whatever. Fade to black, ah, almost and then we see a twinkle in the dark skyline and it is the skyline half way around the world with Luke and Laura locked in a… Read more »
i have no idea where RC is trying to go with this storyline, love Anthony Geary, but when he utter the line and i’m paraphrasing here, “don’t you wanna know” to lulu when she asked him whats going on, i realize that i’ve had enough of the teasing on this storyline, its overkill now, dragged on and beyond dragged, theres only so much even Tony Geary can do. and since this is an RC storyline, i’m praying he hasn’t turned Luke into his oltv version of Vicki and Jessica and their 100 split personalities, i say that because if he… Read more »
this whole fluke thing is tedious.
I hate to say it, because GH is my favourite show, but I don’t care about this storyline anymore, I just don ‘t care, bored to tears of it.
Luke is my boy; through out the drama, the Spencers are kidnapped and brain washed. So, may be, Luke is victimized by Helena, but this particular plot is really involved, and do not forget the whole Jason (Luke) subplot.
We have seen them both at the same time…maybe we are mind conrolled. Yes so bored!
Luke is Luke and story line should end. Now it’s time to work on Sam and Jake. I am sure everyone agrees.✳
OK. Has anyone considered that Bill Ekhart and Luke are actually identical twins that were separated and told they were cousins? Those are SOMEBODY’S bones!! I feel this IS Luke. He defies Helena, yells at her etc. so I don’t think he’s under mind control. In fact I don’t know wtf is going on and I’m almost over it. I have been watching since 1978. Story lines like the Ice Princess and “the disc” and Grant the Russian spy were all cleared up in a year. This is not right. Anthony Geary deserves better. He’s a SOAP HERO. Ready for… Read more »
When did Bill Eckert become a completely different person and why?
would you please end this story line with luke or fluke has been over a year for crying outloud end this solve this now and concentrate on bringing jake as jason back to his memory to reunite with sam enough is enough dragging this story line we need answers before the end of the year stop slowing this story line my goodness. getting tire of this story line with luke.
again witters end this fluke story bring back jason.
i really getting sick of this story line I tape the show and fast forward through this waste of time boring and dumb story line get over with it already PLEASE
It’s TG that has some say over this storyline, so shouldn’t the blame go to him…??
Yes, it should.
I love GH, especially the writing. However, there is one major flaw in the “Fluke” storyline, and I cannot believe that Frank and Ron are not addressing it. The storyline loses traction and credibility with the almost complete absence of Laura’s name in this story. Even if she is not on the show, there is one character that would be able to tell the difference between Luke/Fluke. At the very least, Lulu would be on the phone discussing all of this with her mother. The fact that this is not even alluded to makes the storyline frustrating. Other than than,… Read more »
I agree with your comments, Michael. The writers seem to underestimate the intelligence and memory of their long-time audience. I have been watching this show since it first came on the air, so I am well aware when a main character is left out of the equation of such a serious storyline. Laura, Luke’s former love and wife, Lulu and Lucky’s and Nichol’s mother has not been contacted during the entire four months. And weren’t there TWO people in that basement when Fluke was holding Luke prisoner? Two people having a conversation? I join the majority of the faithful watchers…… Read more »
They have set out to destroy the legacy of Lluke & Laura that is why I quit watching to not even mention her name is an insult to the actress who brought a lot to the show for many years! As for the dual personality/dark half I called this months ago!
GET BACK TO JASON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This has got to be close to the end of GH. Luke with DID. It worked on OLTL over 40 years. It even worked with Connie for a few months. When FV and RC had to end OLTL they did a proper job of writing on overdrive. They’ve pretty much have done that with GH since taking over, and as a result they are killing the show. I don’t blame them…It’s like what do you do,?…when all that you know doesn’t work any more. Hey! dude…let’s reveal that Luke has had DID for the last 40 years. ABC doesn’t deserve… Read more »
Luke has DID?? Noooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!