Absolutely right Harry.

Ugh! I agree, Soaphound. It’s one thing for Sonny to believe Steve Burton is Jason; it’s another for him to turn his back and treat Billy’s Jason with such disdain. One would think he would still have feelings of friendship for the latter while at the same time be understandably confused. Perhaps even explain to him that there’s something going on and he’ll explain it to him when he can, etc.

Steve Burton’s Jason coming back doesn’t negate the two years of friendship “Billy’s” had with Sonny and Carly and all he’s sacrificed for them. Really despicable!

Sonny felt betrayed by Jason Doe. Can he not have feelings?

Awwwww. Poor Billy…I mean Jason2….
You got it, Soaphound….you always do. Sonny is not someone one wants to hug….he’s pathetic and so is/are his sidekick(s) : Carly and Michael.
What will happen to Billy Miller? Jason or Drew? Will he be given ‘the cold shoulder’?
This is starting to lookk like MM on Y&R. Does Maurice have that kind of power?
Billy will always be the outsider.

Well MB did it on twitter then tried to walk it back according to my sister but she does not care because she wants Billy back on Y&R lol

Again, Soaphound, there are not enough negative adjectives to describe Sonny.
One of the posters ( can’t remember who) had said that Jason1 was not so “black and white”.
Well, I think Six is not so black and white either.
Too many unanswered questions. Is he really Jason? Or Drew? Is he really a Q? I am going back to my original theory and say Franco is the Q—who are the twins?
At the risk of sounding repetitious, Susan and Alan—or Susan and Edward could be Franco’s bio parents.
Many pooh-poohed on my theory–I don’t know—I do not want TPTB to stall the ‘revelation’ for a prolonged period of time—by the same token, I want the story to make sense. I will not be left wanting!! LOL.

Although I have come to truly like Burton as an actor—considering how indifferent I was to Dylan for most of his tenure on Y&R—- I love Billy Miller more, Soaphound. So, if I had to choose I’d pick Billy to stay forevermore.
I have been smitten since his AMC days, soooo…..
Are we sure Burton is staying indefinitely? I love the story, nonetheless—very curious; and, looking forward to know what happened to Drew and where he had been all these years before he showed up in PC.
The thing is, we don’t know if Six is the real Jason. If Billy’s Jason is an identical twin with a reconstructed face, how do we know J2 is not the real Jason? How do we know if J2’s memories were not transmitted into Six’s brain?
I mean, he was in Russia, under lock and key for how long? Andre left—does he know who is whom? Does Klein?
What sweet irony would it be if Six was Drew and J2 Jason Morgan? We all think the opposite is true—-but, an honest-to-goodness soap would have a soapy twist like that, wouldn’t it?

“Authentic,Original Jason needs a fresh take on LOVE… ”

absolutely… course, now, I don’t want Billy Miller (Drew) ??? stuck with Sam

it’s leaving me with no other recourse.. will I ever see the Billy Miller of ole ?

will I ever see the Michelle Stafford of ole?
will I ever see the Michael Easton of ole? the list seems endless

same goes for Roger Howarth.

why is it that easy on the eyes gets a let

course that can’t be said about Sonny any more. he is dragging this show

Hello Fanny (said in my best Omar Sharif impression).
I could not agree with you more.
Honestly, for me it was hard to tell that Sam had been drugged because she always acts so somnolent.

@Harry, you’re so funny & I totally agree with you.

Hi, Fanny,
….I can almost guarantee that if Billy/Jason were free of Sam, he would not be so “humdrum”, LOL. I love Billy Miller….not as Jason2, so much….
Mayhap, I was infatuated with Bad Boy Billy Abbott—he had personality; not this mumbling ( what a contagion, Fanny) phenomenon espoused from Sam.
Why is this character so embraced by TPTB? I wish I could see the attraction; I seriously do.
Nevertheless, I have a newfound appreciation for Steve, propelling me to look forward to his ‘dealing’ with Sam
Will I see a difference in her one-dimensional personality?
…I think I shortchanged Steve as Dylan. But, in my defense, and so many athers’, Burton did not make Dylan an independent character—-it seemed as if he could not separate Stonecold from Dylan, the quasi-Jason Morgan-character.
Thus, I do believe that’s the reason he turned many a viewer off.
As I said, ad nauseam; it was not until the loss of Christian was fast-approaching, that Dylan came into his own….absolutely breathtaking performance.
Furthermore—what Steve is offering me as Six/Jason, or whomever he turns out to be, leaves me in awe…..mouth agape. I am sold, my lady.

@Rebecca,
Steve mentioned he signed a 3 year contract …Thank goodness!!!

@Patrick…
Agree W/U wholeheartedly, you’re preaching to the choir ‼️

Steve signed a three year contract. It’s the storyline that is supposed to last 9 months, which will likely involve solving the mysteries of who was holding Jason prisoner in Russia (neither Klein nor Maddox were calling the shots, obviously) and also the gaps in Andrew’s life, since we have no idea what happened to him after Frodd threw him down the stairs as a child up until the time he turned up as a popsicle in the custody of the Cassadines. The one possible thing we may know about his life is that he had a wife who looked like Carly 2.0 and a son named Oscar who he’s already met (I think?) without a clue it was his son.

But there’s no doubt Steve is Jason. He didn’t come back to let somebody else keep playing the character he created (for all practical purposes) over 25 years ago.

Thanks Fanny and Steve. I didn’t know Steve had signed a three year contract…great news! (let’s hope GH is still on!)

Satan: (LOL, I do feel weird writing that name! Can I call you Sat for short? 🙂 )
I’m not convinced Franco threw Drew down the stairs. His mom said she assumed he did but she didn’t see it. And I’m not sure Drew ever had a wife (Carly look-a-like or not; he just THINKS he did because those are the memories that were planted in his mind.

As for being Oscar’s son that’s definitely an interesting theory and very possibly true which would create another link with Carly (ugh)…but I’m leaning toward Laura Wright’s real-life boyfriend, the actor Wes who’s about to come on board, to be Oscar’s dad. Just a guess…

And, I’m also not convinced Steve Burton is Jason. (The only reason the writers would make him so could be the possible fan backlash if he wasn’t.) But all things being equal, “Drew” obviously looked like the Jason we know before his plastic surgery…and if he was the one that was messed up and tortured by Helena…that could account for why he doesn’t seem like the authentic Jason to we, the audience, and to those who have loved him and have noticed how he’s changed since he’s been back. I just feel have Burton be Jason is the obvious choice and they might want to fool the audience. Burton might never have been Jason…he might have been Drew from birth but was switched at an earlier date and grew up or at some point came to believe he was Jason.

All I know is that no matter how it pans out they’re doing a fantastic job and I don’t think I’d be disappointed no matter who each one turns out to be; the acting has been exemplary and the story beyond fun and engaging!

@Harry…you Nicky Arnstein you… 🙂

edit: Oscar’s father..

us not we, the audience

Uggggg! LOL..another correction!! Thanks Satan (yikes! still can’t get used to saying that. How ’bout Lucifer…at least that’s the name of that hot dude on “Lucifer”! Great, fun show by the way ) not Steve! Sorry; brain fog. Fell asleep at 3am…up by 7am.

Interjection? Oh, no, no. I was part of the group which you alienated from this forum.
Remember Maureen, Helen, Gary, Frank and others?

I was part of those who had the nerve to stand up to you and call you out for constantly harassing Celia and Shay. I have been watching for years. I never felt the need to comment until I read all those nice people having had their fill with you. Shay is a lady and she doendn’t even bother answering you. The same goes for Celia.
You even started on Timmm, as well as Su0000, a few years ago. Then as soon as others befriended her, you changed your tune. You do not fool me.

I do not know any of these people, but I heard enough. Did that stop you? I would hide in shame.
You want to be Queen B. In your case Rebecca, Mark, Taelyn and God knows who else.

You just did it again last week by quoting Shay because her words about Alexis were not agreeable to you. I am no 20 or 30 or 40-year old who can be kicked around by you like a soccer ball. Approaching 60 and proud of it.
You brought the negative comments by various commenters upon yourself. You are arrogant, petulant and relentless.

MF’s bequest to stop your insults only worked for a month. You are at it again. One of the Kevins called you out by saying that you want to be Celia. You envy their online friendship.
I do not see anyone having a problem with either Celia or Shay except you and all your aliases.
That includes rose.

You needed to hear this to get you off your high horse. It won’t work because you have this superiority complex. You think you are invincible. However, what I see is someone who needs to prove something to herself. It’s always someone else’s fault.

I have said my peace. But, knowing you, you must have the last word, and MF should not have to see this. He has been a gentleman throughout this ordeal. However, I would hope this is posted as yours was. It is only fair. Remember, look back a few sites where it shows, right there in black and white, reprimanding Shay.
I see nowhere Celia mentioning your name. We Italians have an adage, ” Avere la coda di paglia”. Literally it means having a straw tail. It burns when lit.
Fundamentally, it means having a guilty conscience.
I will not even bother any longer, and ignore your insults and insolence as everyone else.

LOL!!!! Francesca…I just took a quick peek at your long bullshite diatribe and I only got halfway through it. I don’t believe a word you’re saying. You’re some person who appeared out of nowhere…and no “almost 60-year-old woman” would be taking the side of two females who constantly put down older females. Shay and CeeCee/Celia comment on age constantly! From wrinkled boobs to overactive sex drives of too–old–women, to the latest “Anna’s getting comment that Kelly Monaco should be told she’s not the “spry dancer in 6-inch heels anymore…somoene should tell her that hahahaha…”

Sorry! I will say it ONE MORE TIME! I don’t like the continual ageist comments on EVERY SINGLE POST and just like people don’t like racist or religious or homophobic comments…I don’t like ageist. THAT has been the source of constant arguments between Celia, Shay and myself…

The others you mentioned? Where are they ? Who are they? They popped in twice…with one year between…to partake in the “group” you’re talking about. And the way you just went off on me? Sorry; not normal. So, no. I don’t believe you’re just some random poster.

Just the fact that you’re bringing your Italian heritage into this is a big giveaway…Celia does it all the time. So did “grams” or whatever her name was. I’ve no doubt you’re either Celia or let’s see…her grandmother, her “twin”, her cardiologist husband, her lawyer parents..who’d I leave out?

Not interested. You’re too obvious., There are many assorted quibbles on this site on different posts…NONE of which involve me. Yet, you stay silent. Too obvious.

You sound as haughty as Celia. No doubt you’re her or one of her family. Seems like this site is a family affair for her.

I just come to post. It’s not a therapy group.

Oh…LOL…before hitting send I just looked up quickly to see if there was anything I wanted (against my better judement to address)…and I saw this: “One of the Kevin’s said you want to be Celia.” ahahahahha. Yes. I want to be an anonymous 30-year-old poster who I’ve never met. That’s my goal. And you’re 60? Your whole family needs to grow up. Really. Invest the money you guys seem to have that you spend on your European vacations and summer jaunts to Martha’s vineyard that Celia talks about ON A SOAP SITE and seek help…

Eye contact ALONE‼️ Between Carly & Jason (Steve) ELECTRIFYING ‼️‼️

LOL, dmr. Unfortunately for me, I do not know the Gloria Monty days…..she must have been something, eh?
If what I have been witnessing these last couple of weeks where Burton/Six is concerned; then yes—Brava, Gloria; bravi, TPTB.

@CeeCee….Gloria Monty’s reinvention of GH turned the traditional soap opera genre on its head in such a way that whilst often imitated, it was never equaled by any of the competition during her reign as the “Doyenne of Daytime Drama.” The mere fact that her beloved signature characters and unforgettable storylines are still held up as the gold standard amongst many longtime fans of the show says it all. So, yes, she was indeed “something!”

@ CeeCee…Wes Ramsey and Laura Wright R dating…

@Fanny.
Hi, my lady,
Yes, I saw that, the other day. I wonder what role he will be playing. …..Oscar’s father is a possibility?
We shall see. Also, I anticipate seeing Laura and Wes interact…..LOL.
A bientot.

@CeeCee…What if he is actually a recast Prince Nicky under an assumed name and with a brand new face???

@Shay.
Yes, my Shay…..Hmmm…..Prince Nikolas ( Nikolai) in disguise? Good guess, Shaybelle.
I am sure Nikolas is alive. Valentin is too self-assured when speaking of him….almost too cocky.
Another guess? The strange ‘relationship’ Klein has had with him may have to do with Nikolas.
Somehow, I sensed they knew each other….I mentioned it, but then I swept it under the rug.
I bet Cassandra has her fragile, little hand in this, as well.
What a gallimaufry of ‘what-ifs”, suggestions, and suppositions, Shay. This entire story is inundated with lunacy; swimming, actually, in murky waters. Interesting but unnerving…..a maelstrom of too-much-all-at-once confusion. I hope I will keep a mind to follow it. LOL.
This could be the favor owed to him by Valentin. Klein did mention Valentin owed him one, did he not?
Perhaps Nikolas has been in that Russian fortress, dubbed as a clinic, all this time.
Oh, heck…let’s go all the way here…..Six could be Nikolas. Nah!?!? Farout?!?!
I will not complain, Shay, because after all is said and done….I am thoroughly enjoying it. Bull’s eye, GH, yeah!!

Don’t assume Billy Miller is Andrew. This story is far from over.

Absolutely, Steve!…I am expecting a huge twist…or two…or three…to this tale before it’s truly told since it would be awfully anti-climactic to simply take Burton’s character at “face value” as being RealJason and leave it at that too soon….Quite frankly, the actor has been playing his role with such an uncharacteristic intensity and passion that was generally devoid in his previous personage of “Stonecold,” that I am already wont to doubting he is actually the authentic Mr. Morgan…Then again, the fierce warrior nature he instinctively unleashed during his immensely satisfying beatdown of his arch-nemesis Franco certainly rang true for the classic Jason as we formerly knew him, as did his touching first moments as a family man reunited with Sam and Danny. In other words, just when you feel certain beyond the shadow of a doubt that original recipe Jason has returned fully intact in his familiar physical state, something gives one pause to momentarily doubt it. I suspect Burton shall be keeping us guessing for months to come as to whom “The Individual” will ultimately be revealed.

Satan, you said there is no possible way Helena is implicated in this; so, do you have any idea, who “Big Brother”/ Sister is?
I can think of a couple–Faison and/or Jerry??
Also, where do you think Valentin fits into all this?

As I said yesterday, Shay; there needs to be a twist. As you say, a huge one. It would not be soapy enough if it didn’t…..one of such a magnitude that it will stun us. Do you think I’m being too melodramatic? Well, aren’t the Cassadines of that caliber?
….must be all those Halloween movies we watched…..

Alas, Shay. Maura has that IT factor which is soooo rare ( It’s been haunting me all my life, LOL) ….beauty alone does not cut it—it’s the sex appeal, it’s the ‘look but don’t touch’ effect, it’s the ‘je ne sais quoi’ force….all attributes which contribute to the whole package. Another example is Bree Williamson.
There are many beautiful women who are blah because they lack that innate God-given, natural sensuality. No matter how they try, it just isn’t there.
The same goes for men.
I am really drawn to Griffin. I can honestly call him beautiful…..he has the perfect features…..but he is not sexy….Griffin is better looking than Nathan, for example….but, Nathan is a stud with sex appeal—Adonis personified.
Now, to my point. I do not see the sexual attraction Ava has for Griffin. So not her type. Must be a great ‘manipulator’ in the boudoir.
Perhaps she felt less than because of her marred face? Ahh, well, we are helpless when it comes to our feelings/attractions–the heart and TPTB go where they want to go, n’est-ce pas?

Yeah…Dr. Feelgood, Shay!!

But yet half of Americans continually piss all over Trump because he wants a wall and he wants to end Isis. What will it take to give this president a chance? God bless the victims in Manhattan.

No, I most certainly wasn’t referring to the terrorist attack in NYC on Tues. I was referring to a news item regarding the arrest of P. Manafort etc. by the FBI. That news had already been covered earlier in the day. This took place on Monday not Tuesday. No need to attack me unless you’re certain of what I meant.

Well said, Celia. Especially when there are always other ways to watch the show if it’s interrupted during airtime. Not like years ago.

@Timmm.
Oh, T….what’s the point? It will never sink in, my love. The focus is not what’s good for this country….but somewhere else.
I have young ones to worry over……what will their world be like? Scary prospect.

Completely fake news!

How messed up is that, Harry??? Now if it were Sonny saying to Jason/Not Jason/#6 that exact same dialogue, well then , it would have made perfect sense!

Oh my G-d, Celia. I don’t think anyone else is getting your “quote marks” over everyone’s name that you’re having a conflict with, LOL, but I KNOW that you think it’s me under a different name. I think it’s hilarious! I must admit I enjoy reading your various confrontations with other people; you seem to think you’re a perfect poster and never antagonize anyone. Oh! And that statement you made about “everyone gets a turn” if they say something offensive and it comes back to themd. I guess it’s been coming back to you. There’s no way to convince you none of these other posters are me with a different name…LOL…just as you can’t convince me the same round of people come up and then disappear every time we have a conflict. What I will say, again, is I did have a different name ONE time on ONE comment after a barrage of attacks. Other than that, I never use another name. I don’t need to hide. Jeeeezzz…after the crap I went through for several days in a row if I was going to “run and hide” or change my name I wouldn’t have answered each ridiculous assault for days/

So, perhaps you shoudl check your own attitude. I have no idea who “K” or some other poster with a similar name was on the Lexi/Parker exit story but one of the said you had a passive agrressive attitude. I thinked that summed it up nicely. When you’re not thanking someone profusely for “helping you”…guiding you through the stories…you’re insulting others.

Why am I directing this to you? Again, because I read your replys and it’s been several times now where you put quotes around the poster’s name…thinking it’s me. It’s not.

But I agree with Carol. Your approach to her put her on the defensive. As you did to me two years ago when OUR argument began. Time for reflection…

I follow your reasoning, Satan….but, how do we know which Jason is Andrew?
Please help me with any clue.
As far as I can see, we don’t really know, do we? Either one fits the timeline? ….maybe??

He might be somebody Oscar THINKS is his dad (since I think it’s only a short term role for Ramsey). But it doesn’t make sense that they have kept Oscar’s parentage a secret for several months, only to have it turn out to be two random newbies. (technically a half-newbie in his mother’s case, since long time GH viewers know Tamara Braun – but not as this new character)

So assuming Oscar’s dad would have to then be somebody already in Port Charles, you would have to narrow it down to somebody who is the appropriate age to have a 15 year old son, and somebody who was NOT in Port Charles at the time that son was born, because he was born in San Diego, which is not exactly a short commute from upstate New York.

Now that we know that Drew isn’t Jason, and that he has huge gaps in his life story, he seems the most likely suspect. And of course, they will play on the confusion of the real Jason having the face which Oscar’s mother will recognize. And since she used to be a Carly, this will no doubt lead to scenes between her and the real Jason, as he tries to convince her that he’s never met her before in his life… and then explains the whole twin thing.

Since it’s been reported that TB’s first appearance is on 11/22, I’m predicting that Carly is going to invite Oscar and his mom to Turkey dinner, and she will also invite the real Jason. She may or may not invite Drew (who might be eating pizza with the Quartermaines) but you can bet your soul that the cliffhanger will be TB seeing a face that she thinks she knows… and possibly slapping that face because she probably thinks that Drew abandoned her and their son. (which probably wasn’t his choice, given that Drew ended up being a prisoner of the Cassadines and Hell only knows what else)

Hey Sat…ahem… 🙂

Sounds like a plausible theory and one that would probably play well. You could be right. And, yes, I’m familiar with and love Tamara Braun (and loved her as Carly).

I’m still not dismissing the idea that Wes could be Oscar’s dad. He’s the right age and who knows what his back story is… OR…he could have something to do with Nell…

What I like is that I’m not sure.

If I remember correctly you’re not a Franco fan. I am…I love the character…especially how he’s evolved, how great he is with Liz and her kids…and I think he has a lot more depth than many of the other characters. He’s always reflecting on self; he’s vulnerable with those he trusts and snarky with those he doesn’t. And I think he and Liz are great together so I’m not one hoping for a Liz and one of the Jason’s reunion…

As for Oscar’s mom and Jason (with Drew’s old face) the twin thing will have to be public knowledge by the time they meet for there to be an explanation to her liking…and as for Oscar’s mom…there must be something shady about her too since Oscar apparently doesn’t want anyone to meet her.

And agree, no matter how all this turns out Billy’s character was a prisoner of Helena’s. But who is the rich client who is paying to keep patient six a secret? Is it Helena? Another resurrected Cassadine?

What audacity, Rebecca. It was not too long ago when you posted under different names and was caught with your hand in the cookie jar. You cannot blame anyone for doubting who is posting. Let us be fair. Let us be friendly and nice to each other.

You accused me of being someone I was not, remember? That is not my style. Do not judge others by your actions.

PAX

Audacity, Francesca? Audacity is you interjecting again, into a comment I made to Celia…about an attitude and comments she keeps making about me.

I have no idea who you are. Didn’t when you first attacked me a few months ago (so much for your, “let us be friendly and nice to each other.” Where was that sentiment then? Or…does it only apply when I speak.

I have no clue who you are. Do I suspect you’re either Celia or a family member? Yes I do. Why? Because you showed up out of the blue a short bit ago, tied yourself to Celia and even when she has confrontations with someone else you say nothing unless it comes from me.

Though I don’t need to explain yet another time…as I did months ago when “I got caught with my hand in the cookie jar” as you say…I posted ONE TIME for ONE COMMENT after a barrage of assaults aimed at me by Celia, Shay, you and a few others who aren’t “regulars.” It was infantile and mean-spirited then…and it is those types of “group attacks” that make this, Twitter or any other public site destructive.

There have been snarky comments sporadically made by many aimed at different posters at different times. There’s only been two coordinated full-blown attacks…aimed at me by the same few.

Carol, K and some other posters, some I’m familiar with and some not, who have called out Celia and Shay are spot on. It doesn’t escalate because most of us don’t chime in.

You just butt in yet again…let’s nip it in the bud, shall we?

@Celia. I say what I mean. If I have a problem with you, as in now, I do so under Rebecca1. If others have a problem with you..say Carol, K, and a few others I’ve noticed recently, I suggest you reread your comments to them…or reflect on some past comments to see why you get these reactions.

Personally? I’d love to bypass you on this site. And I do. I have. But you either “speak” about me, which I can read as I’m “in the roomf”, LOL, or you instigate when you see an opeining, as you did last time.

Let’s just stay out of each other’s way. It’ll be a happier place.

Eilleen Davidson has been one of my favorite actors for decades but her multiple roles on DAYS really put her full talents on display. Susan Banks is hilarious — and I can only hope that Sister Mary Moira makes an appearance.

Yessss!!!!! That’s what I said, Satan. I do not know much about GH, but I know enough to say exactly what you expressed… “Andrew Quartermaine was completely unknown…”…
So, you really think he is Oscar’s father? Hmmmm. A couple of possibilities, I guess.

LOL…I love Franco and there’s no proof that he threw Drew down the stairs. Betsy said she didn’t see it…I think rather they were close and Franco was traumatized by Drew just disappearing from his early life. Thus, the painting and the nagging thoughts that he once had a brother…

Actually, it is possible if the switch was made just prior to the crash and not after.

Rose, I wonder the same thing about Six’s physical stature, unless those horse tranquilizers had an opposite impact. Being a soap, we have to suspend disbelief.

He’s going to be in good shape from his torso up, Rose. Physical therapy always involves working on upper body strength…particularly for someone who has to depend on that part of his body.

Another thought, Rose. Perhaps Amy doesn’t know yet that he’s lost his legs…she knew he was badly injured but maybe he didn’t tell her that yet…and that’s why he delayed his visit. Or, maybe “in story” he’s only found out now that he needs another surgery to amputate…either way he probably was getting physical therapy, even if from bed.

The only other possibility is that he won’t be in good shape..(althought that would be too grueling to get out of shape for the role like some actors for film roles) .or they’ll have him appear less in shape by camaflouging with ceratain clothes…

oh my gawd!!!! i COMPLETELY misread your comment, Rose!!! I think Su had mentioned on a previous post that she didn’t understand how Amy’s brother would come back looking so fit, etc (LOL, unless I misread that, too. I’ve been on very little sleep lately and usually respond to posts while still in a fog…) And you mentioned Amy’s brother coming back…Anyway…Danger! Danger! Will Robinson!!!! (Or, scusi my comment. To quote an expression I can’t stand, “my bad…”)

LOL, Rose! So frustrating that there’s no edit button…and we never have a guarantee our corrections are going to post. (I read Netflix is doing a remake of Lost In Space scheduled for 2018…I don’t have netflix but I’ll be interested in the reviews.)

Yep; I’m interested in Amy’s brother coming aboard. You know I like her. She’s too cute and I find her much more likable than when they first brought her on to do nothing other than recreate Amy Vining…epic fail. But as the warm, bubbly and insightful friend, nurse (loving sister, etc) I think she’s a sweet addition.