Nina, Nina, Nina… where are you

woah… ouch…. just the sound of that knife plunging in to Silas… was the real part.
Yikes!

I’m with you CeeCee…. they need to rectify…. and bring us Michelle Stafford with legs… walking… talking… taking command… making herself known…

so be it…. if Kiki… is the catalyst for purging of MS’ current state of affairs… as Nina… then it’s time out… and steer toward … Nina, up and out of that wheel chair… and that child she thought she lost… would make ALL the difference….

it’d be sad, heartbreaking… and loss… with and for Ava. no matter, how Ava character is… she’s still that mother… ” just the two of us against the world”… is the writing on the wall…. since Ava is pregnant… with another child… this time hers….

I really have to finally give KA’ Kiki…some prop…. the scenes… FINALLY when she bonded with Ava… when she felt the baby moving… and Kiki… was, in my book… showing respect to Ava… and celebrating her birthday… touched me. so… if the writers go this route…

this is on par… stalwart… woman to woman…. mother hen… mother bear… mother…. dam breaking… as Nina and Ava galvanize… the shock reverberation of loss and welcoming Kiki

MS’ Nina : “…I hope she delivers. It seems that she has lost her edge…sigh…one of my faves…”

she has to get up outa that chair now… and MOVE Nina… her character would soar… in our eyes.. that she’s taking charge… lets see our endorphins take

I lived vicariously, thru Michelle Stafford’ Phyllis

a full embodiment of all the requisite sensory perceptions load

what other character can you say less ?

her resume for anything else… you can’t help but feel cheated… slighted… left out… bereft… wheres my overload…. that I can satiate

is Nina coming round? I don’t know… truthfully…. even if she’s up; threw with…. Silas and Sam… and runs with Kiki

should find a life with Aunt Leisl…. LOL

it’s unfair to MS… that we’re just not comfortable seeing Nina… laying low… with cheap antic…

POWER up Nina… theres no other way.

direct Nina… you know that… leave everyone by the wayside and triumphant

Phyllis was an admirable trait that distilled… she enveloped ‘her’ life… immersed our senses

now that’s a treat

You are sooo right Silas is a complete bore.

Since we all think Kiki is Nina’s they may throw us a curve. On Fridays show Ava kept talking about Fluke but calling him “Not Luke.” Why doesnt she call him Fluke like all of us? Probably because the writers didnt come up with the name. The fans did and they dont want to acknowledge that?

We do not know if Nina cannot get pregnant as a fact. Nature throws us curve balls sometimes. Menopausal women can conceive. A family member is an OBGYN…she sees plenty of women in their late forties and beyond , conceive a child. From what I understand a woman “drops ” eggs here and there during menopause, without regularity. …which makes it an easy task for any of those eggs to be fertilized.
Yes, KM….I noticed the 23-year thing also….good catch, right? When I heard that, the first thing that came to mind was Kiki. She is 23 in both real life and the show.
Madeline definitely did pull that baby (literally) out of Nina and gave it to Ava….aware that Ava and Silas were lovers. As, ‘I love GH’ wrote, Ava loved Silas so much that if she couldn’t have him, she could , at least, have his child. Ava raised Kiki and loves her as her own flesh and blood. It is so easy to love a baby…any baby, so sweet.
I actually assumed this all along, but sometimes I hold back VERBALIZING what I think in fear of putting my foot in it…you how….look like a fool.

That is a very plausible scenario…stealing Sam’s embryo…The fact that Britt told Nina that she herself had stolen an embryo did not go unnoticed by Nina. A new monster is unleashed in Nina’s head. …” The many monster faces of Nina”… Good title…lol
But, yes. You are making more sense than I. I must add that Nina may get pregnant, as I indicated below, albeit not necessarily Silas’ baby…..

I doubt Nina will get pregnant unless the writers go against nature. Women are in a hormonal flux during perimenopause…their hormones ebb and flow so yes, this is a stage where they can still conceive. Once a woman hasn’t had a period for one full year…and is in menopause…she can’t get pregnant. Regardless of age.

I seriously hope Kiki and Nina will find each other soon. If they are indeed mother and daughter, I want to know ASAP, before I go back to work.
One scenario of discovering the truth would be that either Kiki or Nina has a medical problem, needing a transfusion. The writers could go the same route as little Danny and Julian. After DNA testing of Nina and Kiki, voila’, the secret is no more.

Yes, rebecca. You are correct. But, had Nina missed a period, she would have known. Plus she would not have been so surprised at being told she was on the onset of menopause. Unless her body stopped responding to nature during her coma, what you say may very well be. I am assuming her female bodily functions are working, otherwise she would have questioned it. As long as she is menstruating, menopause or not, she could very well conceive. The writers would not go against nature. Actually, they would go against nature if they said she was unable to get pregnant.
My great-grandmother gave birth to my grandmother at the age of 49. That was in 1940, nine months after my great-grandfather left on board his naval ship…. I do love those stories.

CeeCee…You cannot be menstruating and be in menopause. Menopause means you haven’t had a period in a year…and you won’t ever again. As I posted, “peri” menopause is when you can still get pregnant. That’s the time leading up to full menopause…where your periods are no longer regular and you may skip a few months…but you still have eggs, still ovulate…can still get pregnant.

Brit told her she was already in menopause. Which means she didn’t have her period for one full year, which means she’s done having kids. Yes, technically a woman can still be ovulating til her mid 50s…and while extremely difficult could potentially still get pregnant as long as she still has her period…even sporadically. So, ya, she COULD get pregnant at her age if that was the case. Unless they clarify it and say she’s in peri menopause, she can’t, won’t. I have no idea how she wouldn’t notice that she didn’t have one for a full year…but then again i’m not sure how long she’s been awake…and if in her current mental state of obsession, revenge and smashing Silas’s apartment…if that was on her mind. Either Brit read the wrong test…or Nina’s not having a biological baby. Doesn’t mean she won’t steal one…or have a hysterical pregnancy and THINK she’s pregnant!

Loud and clear, Rebecca..lol. That’s my point. Is she ovulating or isn’t she? The writers just threw that bit of info. Inquiring minds want to know? I just have too much time on my hands, I guess…lol..albeit I .am feeling much more human lately.
But, we both agree that there will be some embryo/baby-stealing hanky-panky. I also had not thought of an hysterical pregnancy. Considering her mental state, it certainly makes sense

LOL

“…Nina will turn.. they all turn .. ”

Nina is a trip

fan anticipate…

The show is still bubbling

And right now a dollar is about all its worth…lol…but it still has it good moments when the story makes a little cents…lol

Heart????? Where?

I think what Mark is saying is the violence is gratuitous and the show is so saturated with blood, that that violence ceases to be exciting or interesting. Macbeth is the bloodiest Shakespeare play, however, what makes it compelling is the dramatic dynamics which exist between the characters. The gratuitous violence of GH is not backed up by good and solid writing. This isn’t just an opinion–the writing is deplorable and cannot adhere to basic storyboard key notes: introduction, rising action, conflict, climax and finally, resolution.
The Sopranos was one of the most brilliant shows in television history and yes, it it was violent. But there was dramatic build up leading to that violence and then there were the pauses. To me, the most interesting moments of The Sopranos were the tense moments of silence between Carmella and Tony which spoke volumes about the state of their marriage. And of course, there was Tony standing in his backyard looking for his family of ducks. You see? The characters were fleshed out in such a way to make this show riveting–it wasn’t the violence.
A daytime drama which utilizes too much gratuitous violence and is inhabited by too many cartoonish, one dimensional, psychopathic villains becomes monochromatic and just plain boring.

Hi CeeCee. That’s a very interesting POV but as a former OLTL viewer I have to say in my experience Cartini aren’t that subtle. Wish they were. Your post is exactly what I was trying to express in my wanting more depth, more shades of grey to characters. I wish Cartini were doing that but instead they take everything over the top and then just sweep it all under the rug with the next crazy plot point.

I also think that what will really tame the beast in Nina is the discovery that Kiki is hers, KM. But, I do hope Cartini does not sweep this storyline under the rug.
It will be interesting to see how all this will unfold. Will Kiki meet with a terrible mishap, needing a rare type of blood that only Nina can provide? Will this compel Ava to step forth and tell the truth? ….the suspense kills…lol

….or, now that I think about it, and if my memory serves me right, jimh suggested another scenario a while ago. After todays’s episode, I think Jimh’s idea is viable.
I had that inexplicable goose-bumpy feeling that Nina was actually threatening Kiki to Ava. Jimh has posted that Nina would go nuts and try to do Kiki harm, but then Ava swoops in and admits who Kiki really is in order to save her. Whew, that was lengthy.!!! Lol

Oh, but I do, rebecca…I can complain. “Michael Easton doesn’t do overjoyed as most people would do”
Exactly! Michael does not, but Silas should, unless Michael is just like Silas. Easton is an actor afterall. He should show feelings…it may be typical for the actor, but should it be for the character?…why does he brood? He is not the master of WUTHERING HEIGHTS. If he is a brooding person by nature, that’s fine, albeit I’d climb the walls if I were in a relationship or married to someone like that. Talking to him would be like pulling teeth. I love to talk…can you tell? Lol.
He should be on his knees begging Nina for forgiveness for betraying her….everything else catapulted from there for her. I hope Nina comes through this mental disorder with flying colors. As su000 said, “Nina will turn”. I believe that. My heart bleeds for her…please writers, let Nina come out on top.
And, rebecca…this is just my opinion, I hope I did not come off as giving you a snide retort…not in my nature…it’s good to agree some of the time and by the same token, disagree.

Hi again CeeCee. No offense taken…this forum is to exchange opinions.

What I meant when I said “Michael doesn’t do…” is his method of acting. Granted I haven’t seen him in anything other than soaps…and they’ve kept McBain and Silas (never knew him as vampire Caleb) but they’ve kept the fictional character pretty much the same. So yes, when I say MICHAEL doesn’t do…well…that’s his method, his stlyle…of acting in the way his character is written.

Silas isn’t written as a gregarious, life–of-the-party sorta guy. We’ve never seen him jump for joy…even when he proclaimed his love for Sam it was happy, joyous…yet at the same time relatively mellow. He’s not Todd Manning…or Franco…or Felix…or Dante, Scotty or Luke. I see them more “animated.”

Sonny (yes, your dreaded Sonny), Patrick, Nicolas…they’re all rather contained.

Michael as an actor, when conveying emotion does so with expression. I see it in his eyes, his gaze, his slow smile, a quizzical look. Again, his character to my mind seems to be written close to McBain…a man who is rather serious, aloof…yet with a great capacity for love. I really felt his grief over Rafe. I thought he portrayed sorrow quite effectively.

On his knees begging Nina for forgiveness? For what? She’s been thought dead for twenty years!!!!! He didn’t put her in the coma. And even though he’d moved on…and let’s not forget he hadn’t moved on til he met Sam…that’s a REALLY long time…he STILL honored the fact that unbeknownst to him he was legally still a huband…and insisted she stay with him. EVEN…to the detriment of his relationship with Sam. I’m sure he was torn between his old feelings and his new ones.

As for Nina? She drives me nuts! I simultaneously find her intriguing and creepy. I don’t blame her for her confusion…for her madness…(and I don’t mean angry I mean psycho). Everything that was done to her, all that was taken away…the time she’s lost. I get it. But I’m not rooting for a Silas/Nina pairing. I think she’d be great fun with Franco. But if she doesn’t soften a bit and gain some sense of normalcy (with INTENSE therapy)…I’m just going to find her every bit of annoying as Shay finds Sabrina! 😉

And as an afterthought…I think Nina can be a very interesting character, and as I’ve posted several times I like her best with Franco. She shows her true colors with him…to an extent. And, I always root for the underdog. I just don’t think Silas is the dog…meaning I may root for her happiness…but I don’t blame Silas for anything she’s going through.

Ha ha, rebecca1! FYI…on my personal “Sappy Annoyance Scale (1-10)” the eponymous nurse rates a whopping “11”….however, she is definitely trending upward with that emerging “p!$$y miss” attitude of hers, while Nina the Nutter currently garners an 8.5, and her grating sidekick, “Grossalie” a 9. Compare that with the always arrogant Ava at a somewhat bearable 7.5 and the ever-sanctimonious Alexis a long entrenched 8……(although her heaving cleavage alone earns a 9.5!) ; )

Nay, Shay. The word ‘mundane’ conjures up uninteresting characters with nowhere to go, nothing to do. The word ‘mundane’ has Nikki Newman, Dullard Dylan and girlfriend Aubrey, Neil winters and family written all over it….I ask, what is the point of Neil’s blindness? just to name a few. In comparison, GH is the life of the party. Thank you Michael for your steadfastness in offering us the opportunity of making our voices heard. I, for one, am very appreciative.
For those of us who are/were former, avid fans of Y&R can attest that since the exit of MS, MM, BM, and yes, even little Delia, the show has been going downhill….Sharon with her constant damsel in distress syndrome, Victor with his compulsion to constantly stick his big, I – smell-a-rat nose in everyone’s business, and Nikki’s, “I need a drink, cry me a river, pucker my mouth and stick my nose further up in the air, so I can pooh-pooh all over these little people ” attitude.
I still watch Y&R…I won’t stop. I am grateful it is still on…better than nothing. But, I am in love with GH at the moment. I look forward to watching it everyday….not a dull moment.

And Cee Cee, why do the African American soap characters always have to be the ones to go blind. On AMC, it was Dr. Angie Hubbard. On Days it was that police officer whose name escapes me. Moreover, Cane just warned Neil not to play with the electrical cords because it was dangerous. So, Neil is not just stupid, he’s now blind because of it.
Having said that, Y&R has picked up the pace delivering interesting character driven stories. Yes, there are a lot of problems that still need ironing out but at least they are being ironed out. I don’t feel that way about GH.

Well, Shay as my friend Osgood Fielding from Some Like it Hot said, “Nobody’s perfect.” (Unless you’re Sparkle Pony, thus proving that perfection is boring.)
On the subject of Nina. I cannot fathom for the life of me that this is the same girl about whom Silas waxed poetic. With tears welling in his eyes, he unraveled a picturesque visual of sweet little Nina in her knee socks, saddle shoes and private school uniform skipping down the sidewalk while licking her lollipop. The day AJ, a major character died, we viewers and poor Sam were subjected to Silas sobbing and honking loudly into his handkerchief (interestingly enough, with the initials JM embroidered on it) about his sweet little Nina. I looked at Sam and thought she must be thinking,”Talk about a buzz kill.”
But we tolerated it because, well, she was NINA! We grew to love her. And now we get this slippery, psychotic snake. Apparently, Port Charles is over populated with this ilk–there must be something in the water. It’s as if the writers are making up this character as they go along–as if they didn’t know who Nina was going to be until Michelle Stafford was cast in the role. Sometimes I look at Nina fully expecting a silvery forked town to dart out between those slippery thin lips. We knew Nina before she became a psychopath.

To me, Y&R is like CSI, everyone talks about it but its pretty straight and narrow. GH is like Seinfeld. Its out in left field so there is more to pick apart and analyze. I like them both because they are so different.

Yes, a lot of buzz–like a bumblebee with no stinger left.

@Harry

I’m just assuming Nina was who Silas remembered and reminisced about. Operative word…WAS. How could anyone be the sweet, innocent, running through fields of poppy whilst laughing joyously person after spending 23 (it’s been upped to make room for daughter Kiki)? And let’s not forget…he only sees that innocent act she puts on even now…only we get to see her over-the-top maniacal ways…

Well said, Rebecca! I agree with you wholeheartedly. I do the same as you. Work during the week, put my feet up and relax on the weekends and escape with the previous week’s GH. It’s something I look forward to doing every weekend. I think if some people watched the show with that in mind, that the show is supposed to be a fun escape from our every day lives, not to be taken so seriously, they would enjoy it a lot more. Just my opinion.

@Dan. Why thank you! Here’s to relaxing weekends…(though even better after a fun-filled weekend in REAL life…and THEN settling down for a good binge!

@rebecca1….It’s not necessarily only the “what” of the fillers that bore me, but the “who.” It has been stated oft times before: there are simply toooo many unnecessary characters on the GH canvas, and quite a few are absolute wastes of time and space. There is nothing about them to grab one to make you care about said individuals. Thus, when you take these uninteresting, fringe “people,” put them into frequently contrived, absurd or ridiculous scenarios that offer nothing to moving along the major storylines, then, yes, you do get mundane, stupid, inane, inconsequential….take your pick of descriptions. Furthermore, when you add the breathless promos that act as if something important and earth-shattering (aka, “Epic!”) is going to occur with these non-essential minor players, then you are totally setting up the opportunity for such criticisms. So, yeah, I stand by my initial remarks. As for Harry’s assessment of “La Nina,” and how she falls quite woefully short of the vision we were led to expect, I propose that it is not just her foreshadowed personality traits that created the disillusionment we have observed, but her physical embodiment, as well. Silas’s wife was supposed to be this soft, delicate, gentle and vivacious creature….practically angelic in visage, and what we ended up getting instead was a hard-edged, angular, po-faced woman of Amazonian proportions. Talk about a bait-and-switch!!!! Lastly, I sent you (as well as CeeCee…) a number of replies that didn’t make it to post, but I hope you received them in your inbox anyway….

CeeCee…girlfriend, if you don’t mind (or whatever), add ME to the list!!!!! HELL TO THE YEAH!!!!! To me, onscreen-wise, Michelle Stafford’s Nina has W-A-Y MORE CHEMISTRY with Roger Howarth’s Franco!!!!! As for that SNIVELING Silas…BLAH BLAH BLAH AND MORE BLAH!!!!! Nope.

Take care, CeeCee. XOXOXOXOXO

I see RC and team putting Nina and Franco together..
It might not a big love affair but it will be a very good happening, for sure..
We just have to wait for it- Nina and Franco, it is coming! 🙂

@Timmm…I’m laughing at what you said…hahahhaha…but I feel bad about it. I love Silas! 🙂

Thank you, Timmm! No further explanation needed! Just send Kiki packing!

You just made me chuckle, Timmm. …must admit that’s funny.

Oops, I see that you did. Please put her first on the list!