The only “Carly” I ever liked was Tamara Braun…and you are correct…Sonny ain’t going anywhere.

A job is a job. He is doing what is written. He is an actor. He is not an NFL player running around and dragging his girlfriend through a freakin casino, knocking her out! !

I, too, wish that Paul was still a good guy. That’s a worthwhile complaint. But he hasn’t been on in twenty years. People change in twenty years!

GhLover, you’re right of course but I couldn’t help but laugh aloud when I read “he made her dance naked.”
Yes, I have a warped sense of humor.
That said, let Paul now kill Nina, Franco, Kiki, Julian, Kiki, Sabrina and Valerie.

Yes, Harry, Kiki gets it twice! lol. Agree.

Harry…usually agree with you but I guess I don’t have your sense of warped humor, and you lost me on both counts.

i’ll get pelted for this:

Jane Elliott… is such a grand dame… high end

that it has to be difficult to … find her a man who can match spark and whit

they had it … with Richard Burgi…

???

I wanted some romance and loving … to enjoy
and I wanted it with and for Traci!

dang it… !

ruination for the Quartermaines!

let me guess

the nuHeadwriters… have no plans to realize the potential and “minefield with Billy Miller’ Jake as Jason Quartermaine

Hi, Rose.
I don’t think Dylan is joining su, here….LOL. I believe what Dylan wants, is poetic justice. You know…’live by the sword, die by the sword” type-of-ending for Sonny? He has pillaged and plundered, as it were, people’s hearts, souls and minds, leaving devastation in his wake. It is called getting one’s just desserts. I feel the same way; and I am the last to merge into that dark, villainous lane. Even the best of us hold some rancor for Sonny’s ilk. Later, my friend.

Sonny is the Victor Newman of GH. He protects his family and never pays the consequences for any of his actions. I accept it. Dont like it but accept it. It happens in the real world to. Dont like it but accept it!

Timmm…Heavens “no” to killing Sonny off. But I don’t like that he doesn’t have more jail time/consequences to at least partially pay for all of the misery he has caused to lots of people and his own family.

Cee I love you. Lol. And Timm. …as I have stated….it’s called General Hospital! There is and would always be plenty of Drama to be mined in that setting. I would have no problem with Sonny…if he was played for the villain he is! Not a misunderstood hero! Which he isn’t! And never was. Early on in Carlivati’s tenure, around the time of the 50th….there were literal WEEKS where Sonny was not even seen!!! That was glorious! !! And the show had good ratings then!! Fast forward to a few months ago when it became all Sonny again and record low ratings came in. I believe the viewers are metaphorically speaking loud and clear!

I don’t mind watching Carly, Timmm. It’s Sonny that sticks to my craw…the fake murderous look in his eyes, which scares me not at all, the stuttering and lisping that fog my concentration, and the fact that he tries to command a situation/scene which eventually fizzles out.
But, you’re right. I am able to stare the cold reality in the face….he is here to stay, for reasons I cannot fathom.
Considering Carly changes men as often as she changes her unmentionables, I am sure she’ll find someone at the blink of an eye. How about Milo? LOL.

There are actors, and then there are actors, Timmm. Maurice just does not fit the category of a compelling actor for me. I am not into Victor Newman either but at least, Eric can perform, even at his age. It is a matter of opinion, and taste. Ryan/Nathan artistic delivery may not be up to par for most, but I do not cringe when I see him. His character represents a normal cop doing his normal work….he is not perceived as super-cop….he is actually the brunt of many jokes. That fact has much to do with how well-received a character is. Sonny has had his hey-day and from all the comments, fans are tired of this unwarranted adoration given to the worst kind of living ‘thing’…..I’ve only been watching for a short time and I’m sick of the shenanigans and him.
What bothers me the most is that there’s never any closure with this character. He devours everything in his path with gigantic tongues of fire and gets away with it. I don’t understand it. Why do the writers keep this character’s twisted image alive? Not only is the character a fiend, but the acting is deplorable. Later.

Where’s autocorrect when you need it?

I would love….

@Dylan.
Oh, my God, Dylan. Did you feel the sweet, yet sad and heart-wrenching emotion displayed between Kayla and Caroline, too? I sobbed over that scene. It was so well executed…..I felt the love and pain that, so obviously, enveloped Kayla. The performance by these two outstanding actresses is so rarely seen anymore; it just tore at my heart.

@Dylan.
That’s it, Dylan! You have concisely put a title on Sonny which was escaping me. “Misunderstood hero” is perfect. He is a villainous fiend; yet, he is upheld as the Messiah-in-training. Blasphemy. LOL.
Whatever happened to crime doesn’t pay? Whatever happened to paying for one’s crimes? Where is the good example being set and beheld? Instead of catching the bad guys, governors in in my home state (what a laugh) give them the key to the city…..or more bad guys are harvested . I am waiting for Carlos or his clone to show up.

I know, networks bitch about how expensive it is to produce a soap and they have to cut the budget. WELL, cut it! I hate to see people lose jobs but keep people who are relevant and cut the fat and put some money into the sets or do an on location story!

Franco should go postal again and off most of the current cast. The canvas is bloated and unfocused. It is a shame that so many talented actors are stuck in roles that are completely wasted or pointless. Altman and Pass an Auntie have their work cut out for them. I am guardedly optimistic about their work but am NOT happy with Michael going gangsta! He looks and sounds ridiculous. A cherubic blonde boy who looks barely out of his teens has no place in the mob. Leave that crap to Morgan. I am just watching a DEEPLY affecting scene on DAYS with Kayla, Caroline and Victor and it reminded me how good soaps can be when they focus on family!! DAYS is awesome right now!! It is tight and focused and entertaining.

Hey, jimh.
What Paul will do is use the incriminating info on Anna to his advantage. He is just biding his time…like a snake in the grass, lurking; waiting for the right instant, to pounce. Will Anna capitulate?

I agree. The list is long:
Kiki
Elizabeth
Sabrina
Ava
Julian
Valerie
Alexis
Jordan

all your list are stupid, you all basically want a show with no characters, just plain dumb list!

My dear Harry:
If Nathan leaves, whose well-honed chest, abs and biceps am I to admire?

Alexis looks like a goof ogling over every wag of Julian’s tail!

“Nathan has a lot of story to tell.” WHAT!

Nathan’s story:
I get up, shower, dry myself off, look in the mirror and say wow, theres that hunky guy in my bathroom again!

I go to the kitchen no one sees, eat some oatmeal, banana and down a broccoli smoothie!

Go to the living room/dining room. Do some push ups and sit ups and….

Oh, I get a shower, theres that guy in the mirror staring at me again!

The front door makes a noise [Someone knocks] Its Valerie Spencer. Spenser, isnt Bobbie and Luke pasty white? Wait, they told me not to think! I’m sweating now!

Another shower!!!

Ha ha ha!

@Timmm..
Hello, ‘dahling’.
Oh, my gosh, Timmm…I am laughing so hard…you really rock my world…LOL
You have just described my husband, how did you know that was his morning ritual?? HaHa!
That is your best satirical post, yet. I have enjoyed reading it to no end.
I must make my point, though…all teasing aside: I still feel that sooner or later, Nathan’s father will be making an appearance. That’s what I meant when I said Nathan had a lot of story to tell. Perhaps I should have phrased it differently; that is, there is a storyline centered around his paternity; his parentage. I did mention the other day that Paul could be his father, unbeknownst to no one but Liesl. Arrivederci…luv-ya.

@CeeCee….We are of the same mind when it comes to Paul as a “babydaddy” candidate for Nathan….I have mentioned this one before in the recent past. We need to see an encounter between Hornsby and Dr. O. to ascertain that possibility. Also, whilst we are on the subject of paternity, how about this one: Ava somehow obtained a sperm sample from Dante (leftovers in the lab?) and used that to father Avery. After today’s episode where the little munchkin had a rash, I recalled Rocco’s allergy to latex, which he inherited from his father. Could this be why Ava’s child DNA tested out as a “Corinthos?” Everyone assumed that meant either Morgan or Sonny, but what if the answer is neither A nor B, but “C?” Just ruminating…..

@Shay.
Hi, Shay……good one. Avery is Dante’s? Never crossed my mind. How deviously delicious would that be?
As yourself, I automatically assumed Paul was a good candidate as being Nathan’s father. I talked about it….but, I think only you and I actually touched on that subject. Perhaps it’s too far fetched?
I can’t get over how alert and smart and cute the twin babies are. I want to reach out and hold either of them. Later.

Well, FINALLY, CeeCeeGirl! One of my responses to you made it to post….I’m not sure if this is to what you were referring on another GH thread, but suffice to say, it was only one of three from yesterday, one being rather lengthy in explaining my recent absence. If you did NOT get that particular reply, let me know and I shall throw myself upon the mercy of the moderators and post it for a second time with a request to at least personally send it to you! Talk about frustrating….if I even use the words “Sappy” or “Alexis,” I get totally obliterated, yet someone else can express the exact same sentiment and make it online….as for our speculations on various paternities, I think they are brilliant. Both are rather clever and unexpected, and would be a welcome change from the banal nature of the two (?) current pregnancies. (What is this obsession with reproduction anyway????? Port Charles has plenty of cute kiddies…..especially Avery. We don’t need anymore darn offspring!) Neither of these new “blessed events” is remotely necessary…and the very notion of having to put up with such nonsense again has turned me off to GH, possibly for good this time. Really!

@Shay.
Oh, I hear you, Shay. All these babies. Point is, how many of them will survive?
Unfortunately, sweetie, I did not get your post explaining your absence. I look forward hearing it. Yes, do beg, if you must…LOL. Later.

Okay….I’m begging! Mr./Ms. Moderator….PLEEEEZE send this to my bestie CeeCee! I completely understand that you don’t always appreciate my thoughts and how they are expressed…fair enough, don’t post me for public consumption. But when you also fail to forward my responses to the inboxes of designated parties, it makes me appear rude and disinterested…and I’m neither!!! So, if you could please personally pass this one on to CeeCee????…Much thanks! (Resend begins here…..) Oh, I’m still here, CeeCeeGirl!!!!….Lurking about on the GH threads…thanks for asking! I’ve not had much to say since the NLG TWI (Tweeting While Intoxicated) debacle….I repeatedly expressed my negative thoughts on her behavior–okay, I raked her over the coals—and practically none of my sentiments made it online, even though my issue was with not what she said, but simply the irresponsible m.o. of her saying that and so many other things in the past. After that episode, I just had enough for awhile, since I also (apparently) failed to get a few of my other previous responses directed to you, as well. (I’m assuming you did not receive them?) It just seemed a good opportunity for a bit of a time out…..from both commenting and watching GH….I just cannot take it as it currently is! But I do always check out the recaps and that in itself is a gag-worthy exercise. Absolutely nothing has changed! All the wrong legacy characters are being frontburnered and the atrocious, worthless newbies are still hanging around offering little of value. Not much in which for me to invest at this point…..it’s no wonder ratings are down. I keep hoping for a turnaround so that I can regain my sense of enjoyment, as opposed to utter disgust, for my once-beloved soap. However, from what I have been reading in spoilers, such is not the case….yet. At any rate, I do read this website on a daily basis to keep apprised of what all my favorite people have to say, you included, but of course!….I shall look for your other post! Once again, thank you for wondering about me. I’ve missed you, too! I will try to get back into the “posting groove,” Girlfriend! Va bene? Later!

Tristan..
The GH mob stuff has not ended for 3 decades, and it will not end,
the mob is a cornerstone of GH, it is a core part of GH ..

I watch 2 soaps and both are very different from each other, I like the variety.
I get different things from each soap/balance perhaps..
I am among all the GH mab fans, and we are many 🙂

Justin, I haven’t watched in two months, but I troll the boards hoping for good news.

Suooo, the mob has not been a cornerstone of GH. And emphasis on the mob is why RC/FV were brought on in the first place, to salvage GH because of the horrible ratings due to the mob obsession of the previous regime. GH cannot survive on the love of the mob fans alone. It needs to recapture viewers who left because of the mob. If it is mob central again, GH will not survive. Simple as that. Last time that happened GH was going to be cancelled, unless your beloved RC and FV could turn it around. Which they did, until they tried to turn it into a retirement home for stars of other soaps; losing focus again and losing viewers. Which is where we are now, with them going back to the mob because it is the easy way out: just have people yell at each other and shoot and kill. Any hack can write this nonsense. If they don’t diversify the storylines, GH will fall again never to rise. I’ll take my prediction to the bank: it’s money.

No one doubts that some like the mob. But that group is far outweighed by the number of viewers who have left because of the mob. GH can only survive by giving satisfaction to the greatest numbers, not just the faction of mob fans. GH has to please more than viewers like you, or it is dead. Is that what you want? Would you prefer that GH cater only to mob fans and end up cancelled? If so, you are not the true fan of the show that you pretend to be: you’re a fan of the mob, not of GH. If you were, you would want it to survive. It won’t focusing on the mob.

Hi Tristan…from what I’ve read, the new writers are literally going to focus on both…mob and romance. Not necessarily in that order or intertwined!

Me too. Well it’s October 1. I really hope things change in GH. Otherwise…

CeeCee .. 🙂
Paul is awesome!!
He is handsome and pure power, a great character..
We have only seen a few scenes with Paul and wow I’m looking forward to more of the charming dangerous man..
He is a man nobody should mess with! yet, he has soft side will Dillion and Tracy..

I can’t wait to see where he goes with Anna and of course Tracy..

ALL soaps need the bad guys to bring suspense and intrigue and to give us someone to root for, their targets!
some root for bad guys some for the good guys, whichever they bring the excitement..

@su.
Hi susu.
I really do appreciate your loyalty. But, a good person is good all around; not just to the people he loves. And, even then, people such as Sonny, and I am sure we will see in Paul, do turn against their own family. Sonny has sold his soul to Beelzebub. You know of Judas Iscariot, right? Weeell!
I do agree that Burgi is one superlative actor. That’s why I am disappointed, I guess. I did not expect Paul turning out to be a cold-hearted murderer. Later.

Your going to like him even less. I hear he will start toying with Nathan soon.

@Timmm.
And what a tail it is!!!! Absolutely wasted on Alexis. HaHa and LOL.

@Timmm.
You are cracking me up, Timmm, with your one-liners. Always hits the spot. Now, because my mind is a little bit in the gutter, and a little bit in all that’s ‘pure’, I am getting mixed visions here. LOL. Toying with Nathan.?…golly gee, that leaves an open field of meaning, Timmm. Whatevah do you mean, suh? HaHaHa..I’m having so much fun….

Laura/Carly doesn’t get enough praise..
Her acting is superb, she can bring it !

Margie 🙂
ohh wow, on me!
I meant ”Monica” .. posting while triple tasking isn’t my thing lol
thanks for letting me see my 0oopsie ..

Lol, Margie. Su means Monica…only a typo. It happens.

Hi Rose,,
GH is the way the network wants it be.
The direction it is going is what they want..
I’m happy there will some kind of mob stuff going on, after GH’s core is mob related.

I can not see a way to build the Q’s back back up, especially not at this stage of the game/too late…
RC/FV brought in Dillion to help keep the Quartermaines alive, but still not by any means enough to sustain the Q’s 🙁
Tracy & Monica are near retiring and then Dillion (Ned is at Days) will be the last of the Q’s… sad, indeed 🙁

(( my loved Cassadines are all gone too except Nik and the rarely on screen Helena..
I miss the Alcazar’s and the Zacchara’s and Jerry Jax, they made GH light up!!

Hi Timmm…Don’t want Greys Anatomy, etc., daytime, or anytime. Don’t like wall-to-wall operations, etc. Ugh! But also don’t want the mob and killings all of the time on “daytime.” Wish writers could figure something out that had a more balanced mix of good storytelling that made everyone from su to practically everybody else happy…at least most of the time. And it’s not that I want the mob wiped out entirely…just don’t want them to be the focus of GH.

I understand, Timmm. The mob is here to stay. However, Rose has more than a valid point. There should be a balance. And, I hope I do not fit into the category of domesticity…..the kind of housewife who watches GREY’S ANATOMY, or all that other fluff/stuff with the word WIFE in it. Other than my soaps, documentaries , and crime drama, I love to watch HOUSE FLIPPING on HG-HD.

It’s my fear, not my wish

LOL, mollie. God forbid. I don’t know if I could live through another Flukoid.

They should’ve found a way to have saved both “All My Children” and “One Life to Live.” Any chance they could resurrect them??? (And…I’m not sure…but the new writers’ material doesn’t begin until next week, right?)

I objectively realize that Burgi is good looking…but I can’t get past his resemblance to Fred Gwynne…aka Herman Munster.

I think that’s it exactly, Samantha. Daytime is trying to mimic prime time. I suppose “they” are omitting the line of separation here. It’s not working for most of us, it seems. Daytime has lost much of the enjoyment I derived from it….at least, for me. I don’t really have the same eagerness to catch the next episode, albeit I always manage to find time to watch. I have been watching soaps all my life, so it would almost be like taking an important chunk out of my day. I suppose any soap lover feels the same way.
Now, as a point of interest…..would it be far-fetched for Paul to be Nathan’s father? Liesl had said that whomever that man may be, is much worse than Victor C. Well, I find Paul, in his suave, debonair, every-hair-in-place, starched and pressed to the gills self, quite threatening……like the carnivorous eyes of the crocodile lurking just beneath the water’s surface.

Ps. Perhaps, my mind is roaming in the wrong direction. Could something be building between Paul and Ava, other than their diabolical conspiracy?
Speaking of Ava, I know she’s a bad, bad girl, but where does Morgan get off calling her a murderess; being the scion of an infamous murderer himself? Wasn’t he ready to take Julian out? Who are these people? The Untouchables? I think these writers better come to grips with the fact that members of the mob are in a league of their own. One does not normally see them among the general public. And, if by chance, one ends up in the hospital, there would be a swarm of paparazzi. I did not even see one paparazzo around. Yeah, yeah, it’s a soap…but make it look somewhat credible. Trying to have them mingle with ‘normal’ society is unrealistic…..they are a lot more ostracized than what these meanies are portrayed to be. Obviously, the writers need to confer with Puzo or Sorsese to sort of get an idea on how to write an inspiring crime story.

Yes, Rose. Anyone who knows anything about the method of writing knows that where there’s good, there must be evil. Just as there must be character foils. It started in the Garden of Eden…LOL. However, good must win, if not always because that would be unrealistic, but, at least, once in a while.
As I always say, fiction mimics reality; nonetheless as I, and many fellow-posters have said, Daytime should keep its separation from Prime-time. I know that’s the way it was, but the line of separation has completely disappeared. Nothing is left to the imagination. It’s like wearing a sleek, elegant, sexy dress (preferably black or red. Lol.)……we never reveal all our assets.

Maybe some of us would like a respite from violence, Timmm. If it were all that, GH’s ratings would be through the roof. But they are not, are they? Hmmm, wonder why.

If the moms aren’t watching and the grams are dead (which they all are not, by the way) just who does this afternoon violence appeal to? The thirty-something boy/men living in mom and dad’s basement, living vicariously through the inept shoot-em-ups on GH? If they are what GH is targeting, this show will be dead in a year. Or less. It needs the moms and grans BACK to survive. You don’t get ’em back with non-stop violence.

Timmm, glad you mentioned Oregon. There is just so much horrible violence and my problem with GH is that it glorifies killing and killers, and REVELS IN VIOLENCE!!!!! Such a wrong message in this society. Sometimes entertainment should offer another path; show that there are better ways of living and better people than Sonnys and Pauls in this world. What kind of a message is it sending to society when the show glamorizes murders and murderers and has no DECENT MORAL COMPASS??? GH has NO decency in it. No heroes to root for!!!!

What is the difference between the killers at Sandy Hook and in Oregon and the beloved mobsters of GH? They are all killers. So you tell me.

Timmm…i think we all have some valid points. I guess what would work for all of us is more balance between good and bad, with bad actions having consequences just once in a while, and way less in-your-face-violence, especially with guns. I echo your sentiments about those in Oregon, and everyone else affected directly or indirectly with this and the other shootings in the US. It’s not entertaining when it happens in real life, so why have it as a frequent staple for GH, or soaps in general.

However, you need Sonny, the mob or something like that, the Cassidines, and other bad guys/gals to “challenge” the “good” citizens of Port Charles or else it would get boring. Plus, even though they have questionable morals and ethics, to put it mildly, they have brought a lot of interesting characters to GH.

But just not a diet of the violence, or the graphic shootings like Paul/Sloane, or even Anna, who I love, and Carlos.

I agree with balance. As for the shootings, my main objection is that there are too many and the victims are characters I love like AJ and Silas. As far as shootings go,,,I don’t agree they’re graphic. They’re pretty innocuous other than the obvious result. No blood…or too unrealistic to affect me…no gore.

As for the “hospital”…I wouldn’t mind seeing more scenes and interactions there like in days of old, but the Steve Hardys and the lovable gossip Amy are gone. So, unless they can recreate the “hub” it used to be, I could do without it. Have no desire to watch a medical show. Illness isn’t my form of entertainment.

Thanks, CeeCee! I must have missed that part about Ava just saying that about Carlos. I love that Anna and Carlos team up to take down Paul, it would redeem Carlos and I’d like to have them keep (and use!) this actor. Tons of charisma and great actor. I hope another soap hires this guy if a return doesn’t work out.

Su, I understand that some actors are only on a short-term basis. However, some of the short-term actors actually turn into long-term, and I could definitely see him becoming a regular in Port Charles. (Did you see the latest edition of the ABC Soaps magazine? Robb Derringer was given a great article and awarded the magazine’s “Gold Star” for acting. He deserved it. And there were so many story lines his character could’ve been woven into. It’s just sad when you see someone so talented and who works well with the regular cast members and then see him not being kept on the show. And I feel the same way about Silas. If they aren’t “working” well with the other story lines, etc., it’s a lack of creativity on the writers’ parts. They had gems right in front of them with Robb Derringer and Michael Easton. So sad. Well, if they aren’t brought back, I expect to see them in other shows soon! They deserve it.

Yes, it’s horrible what the writers have done. I think they believe the audience will forget in due time…however, that assumption means they hold little regard for the viewers, who aren’t as ignorant as they might think. 😉 Yeah, it’s all just too much… Makes me not care. And the death of Sloane (unless it was a fake “death”), along with the death of Silas (both of which were too sudden and violent), makes me want to move on from Port Charles. In fact, with everything combined, I’m really not interested anymore in this once great soap. Sigh. Have watched since I was kid with my mom. But it’s just not the same, and I blame the writers and executives. I feel so sorry for those actors too, who are given less than excellent scripts to work with. Well, thanks for letting me vent. Ha… I may tune in next week to see what the new writers are up to. But they would really have to “wow” me with better stories, less violence, something to tug at my heart and make me want to stay. And bringing back Sloane and Silas somehow (even if those actors played different characters) would be a dream come true.

@Samantha.
Hi,
You can vent any time you want, Samantha. I’m here for you…LOL.
I don’t know if you watch Days, but if you want a ‘heart-tugger’, that’s the soap to watch right now. Kassie DePaiva has been playing at my heartstrings for a while now. Later.