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General Hospital's Thaao Penghlis On The Machinations Of Victor Cassadine!

Photo Credit: Alan Mercer

Photo Credit: Alan Mercer

As if you thought this Cassadine would be a fine upstanding citizen?  Think again!  On this week’s episodes of General Hospital, viewers learned that Victor Cassadine (Thaao Penghlis) has been the master puppeteer, keeping Dr. Robin Scorpio Drake (Kimberly McCullough) around long enough at the Crichton-Clark clinic for her to finish her research and resurrect her dear friend Jason Morgan from his cryogenic state!  But … Good ole’ Vic has plans for Jason that don’t include Robin!  And just how did he manage to Robin away from her daughter and husband, when she was only an hour away from Port Charles?  By being the party responsible of having put Rafe (Jimmy Deshler) up to running Patrick (Jason Thompson), Emma (Brooklyn Rae Silzer), and Sabrina (Teresa Castillo) off the road which caused the crash that ultimately led to death of baby Gabriel.  Victor has Robin right where he wants her … and now the tale will spin out from here!

On-Air On-Soaps caught up with the talented Thaao Penghlis at GHFCW 2014 to get his thoughts on the latest twists in the arc of Victor’s story, a preview of what may be ahead, what he thinks of Victor’s relationship with Dr. Liesl Obrecht (Kathleen Gati), working with Kimberly McCullough (Robin) in the those major revelation scenes, and how he is even taking the heat from some fans because of what Victor is perpetrating on Robin!  So, here’s what Thaao shared that is making watching Victor Cassadine, oh, so fun and maddening, these days!

What has it been like portraying Victor while coming and going off the canvas of General Hospital, and now to have what look likes a very juicy story?

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THAAO:  I can understand the way they have brought me in periodically, because in order to make the story cohesive, you have to have had these times off so that things evolve; otherwise the audience is not going to believe what takes place … like people being revived again and that type of thing.  Miracles don’t happen overnight, and with this character for the first time, I am seeing something human. I love that, because I am always looking for the humor.  Because when you are, as they say, the villain, and if people are going to like you then you gotta have some fun!  You are going to be a challenge to the hero, and that is what I am enjoying doing now.  I suddenly went, “Wow!  What is going to be exposed at the beginning of September is wonderful!  Suddenly my character went: “I am a person.  I feel. I am having insights, and it’s not just about what I want and what I say goes.” There is a wonderful mystery that is evolving.   I was learning my lines the other night, and I was already in it and so invested in the story.  That’s how good it was.  I can say it’s the best stuff I’ve had on this show since the Ice Princess.  I am really excited for what is ahead.

So, now can we say that you will be kind of “recurring” on the show?

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THAAO:  It looks like roots are being formed with this character, so I would think so.  And on GH, you don’t really have a true villain, except Kathleen Gati’s Dr, Obrecht, and that’s a woman. The audiences are not used to having female villains as much as they are a male villain. I don’t want to sound like a chauvinist (Laughs) but male villains are much more interesting! (Laughs) They have a lot more power, let’s face it.  The world is full of them … and they are all men! (Laughs)

How would you define the relationship between Victor and Dr. Obrecht (Kathleen Gati)?  Is Victor still smitten with her?  Does he love her? Of course, we never saw their back-story fully on-air.

THAAO:  I said to our EP Frank Valentini, so what happened to Victor … as I was the only one to survive, and I was put into prison, because I have no idea?  So I have to put it in my own head, and I can’t play what’s not there.  All I can do is have moments of what the lust must have been like between Obrecht and Victor, or what kind of sex we must have had, or what kind of passion we must have had.  Obviously, Liesl affected Victor more than he affected her!  She loves that crazy man, Cesar (Anders Hove)!  I think I am baffled, actually. (Laughs)  I love Kathleen!  She says, “I would rather have you!” (Laughs)  We have a wonderful rapport.  It’s a dance and it’s funny.  When I looked at her I said to myself, “Is this the type of woman I would go for?”  I thought:  “Kathleen is a lovely human being. She is a very dedicated actress, and she works very hard, and in the same way I was trained to do.”  So there are all the romantic things between Victor and Liesl, but what I am also discovering is … there is a threat there … a threat!

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How was working in those just aired scenes with Kimberly McCullough (Robin) … where Victor is quite nasty to Robin while they are trying to resurrect Jason?

THAAO: That has been interesting stuff to play.  Kimberly was not feeling well the first day we worked.  I had a sequence with her that was so primal.  When I say “no” to her, something came out of me, some sound!  I think I even shocked the crew! (Laughs)  I shocked myself at the way it came out!  It came out of nowhere, and so then I pulled it back in.  You know, Robin is a very vulnerable character. So, I have to watch how to play with her, whereas with an Obrecht type character you can move her around, and throw her on the bed, or whatever.  (Laughs)

Robin is one of the most beloved characters on the canvas in the history of General Hospital, and so to have Victor double-cross her when she is trying to do good and save Jason, could earn him the “Most Hated” Award! (Laughs)

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THAAO: Robin is a sacrifice in a way, and she serves her purpose in all of this, and people are blaming me for getting Kimberly off the show!  She wanted to get off the show, because she wanted to direct.  It’s one of those things where fans are saying: “You better not get rid of her because I am coming after you!”  And I am going, “Are they for real these people?”  I have had a few threats.  You look at it as the actor and you are going, “Ah, it’s only a script.”  You look at these people who take the stuff so seriously.   It is amazing how analytical the fans can be, and in-depth when they think up, or of, the storylines.  But overall, it’s been an interesting time coming back to GH … someplace I never thought I would ever be coming back to again.

For more with Thaao on his real life travel adventures and more make sure to pick up a copy of his memoir: Places: The Journey of My Days, My Life.

Now let us know, what did you think of the reveal that Victor was responsible for running Patrick and Emma and Sabrina off the road?  What do you think Victor plans to do with Jason?  What do you think about how Victor used Robin?  Do you hope Victor and Dr. O have more intense scenes together?  What do you think of Thaao’s comments? Weigh-in below!

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su0000
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su0000

Love love love Thaao Penghlis !!!
Love the Cassadine!!

I hope Jason will come back a killing monster and kill Robin, dead..
Mangel her and suck her blood out like a monster killer!!
And then eat Robin so there is no way of her return.. (burp & bflush! I like that 🙂

And no, I do not hate Robin she ain’t real to hate..
she is an irritant and very hard to tolerate, is all..

Heather Gideon
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Heather Gideon

i love love Thaao Penghlis too and like the role he is playing as Victor Cassadine
General Hospital is my faveorite soap i look forward to watching it everyday

jimh(leave it to beaver)
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jimh(leave it to beaver)

Do you belong to some cult?…just curious…lmao

janet
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janet

no he is just really Re-Ron.

Omar
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Omar

Agree..I do NOT hate Robin, but PLEASE kill this character off..She is just SO damn BORING..Ever since she was on years ago playing a little annoying girl and now, its just been boring like there is no tomorrow with this actress..Just kill this character off..I thought i was the only one, thanks su0000, you prove me right!!

July
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July

Robin isn’t boring, never was. I’m not a robin fan, but don’t hate her. Her story is interesting ever since she came to PC. There is not need to say kill her off. She didn’t do anything bad to have her killed like some others have. Her story line now is stupid but still she doesn’t deserve to die. If you want her to leave than that’s your perogative but to die. BTW.. She’s not real. She isn’t going anywhere . She’s been on the show since she was child and if she wants to go and come she’s earners… Read more »

GH50
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GH50

You know, I love Thaao. he was so great back in the Ice Princess days and of course he is the great Tony DiMera. The man is absolutely a fantastic and I mean a fantastic actor and a soap icon. But I couldn’t get past his first response without shaking my head. Talking about a cohesive story, allowing things to evolve, what is believable and things not happening overnight. Sorry, but this entire story is so convoluted and full of holes and contradictions and things actually do happen over night. Robin has been working away for months and then pulls… Read more »

Shay
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Shay

@GH50….I am also a huge fan of “Victor” from his Ice Princess Days! My word, TP was such a smoldering presence on GH during that Summer of ’81….way too old for me, but that didn’t keep me from my admiring his exotic good looks and dashing demeanor just the same!!! Hence, I was absolutely delighted when he returned to the Port Charles canvas (albeit decades too late for my taste!) but I have felt cheated thus far, not being apprised of his backstory and whereabouts since his all-too-brief appearance as my favorite Cassadine during GH’s heyday. While I love the… Read more »

jimh(leave it to beaver)
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jimh(leave it to beaver)

GH was at its best in the early 80s…back then i rarely missed an episode…i shut the phone off and i wouldnt even go to the bathroom until the credits were over…lol…now im not too much in a rush to get home to watch and even take occasionally naps when the show is on(but thats also partly due to my poor health of late too)…once in a full moon GH will have a great entertaining episode that keeps me glued like the good old days and then there are the episodes that make me wonder why i watch…if tptb would… Read more »

jimh(leave it to beaver)
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jimh(leave it to beaver)

I also want a backstory shown in flashback detailing how they met and the romance of Dr.Mutter and Victor Frankenstein…lol

jimh(leave it to beaver)
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jimh(leave it to beaver)

I so agree with everything you are saying…and female villians can be just as cool…i guess he doesnt realize Helene is a female…lol…other great female villians were the late great Beverly Mckensie as Iris on AW…Robin Strasser as Dorian on OLTL and Rachel on AW(also Victoria W. as Rachel)…and Eileen Fulton as Lisa on ATWTs just to name a few who entertained us for decades with their deliciously villainous roles…!!!

rebecca1
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rebecca1

jimh…sorry you are in bad health…I know that soaps and other shows people get absorbed in are great escapes from reality. As for GH and its heyday; yeah…GH and OLTL and going alllll the way back to Dark Shadows…they were all great for what they were. But they’ll never be that again…as we won’t be who we were back then or sit and watch perhaps with people who have passed since then. Sigh. I’m feeling philosophical today. But what I’m trying to say is I think the shows were written for that era…and if we look back on the now… Read more »

Omar
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Omar

I agree with you 100%..GH is a “hot”mess this summer…LOL

July
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July

Totally agree Omar!!! Stupid and absurd storylines

Jennifer
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Jennifer

I love that Victor and Patrick don’t like each other it would be a great storyline if Victor has Patrick and Sabrina son all this time and made them think the baby is dead but I don’t like that Victor hurt Patrick and Sabrina and Emma and baby Gabe because he want to keep Robin in line to do her job if her family was in trouble it has none to do with Sabrina. So what is Victor going to do to save his own skin when people find out that he hurt Patrick and Sabrina and Emma and kill… Read more »

Shay
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Shay

Actually, the fact that Victor is the one who orchestrated “Operation Roadkill” makes me admire him all the more. I only wish his plan had been more effective by divesting Port Charles of Sappy’s presence on a permanent basis, as well. As for all the people hoping that “Gabe the Babe” is coming back, all I can say is that when Robin fibbed to Patrick about Jason’s “death” being attributed to multiple organ failure, I breathed a sigh of relief, thinking that if that were a situation even she couldn’t reverse, then at least the “rent a runt” would not… Read more »

Kyle
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Kyle

I love Thaao, he’s Awesome. I do hope we see more of him an Robin, and they get Helena resurrected. I’d like for Jason & Stavros too, but mainly Helena, she’s one of my favorites. Can’t wait to see more of this!

Aurelene McGruder
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Aurelene McGruder

I think it was a dirty trick how Victor Cassadine got all of Robin’s work and research under false pretenses. He threatened her family at the expense of her marriage to make her do the work. Then when he sees the results, he gives her the bums rush to get rid of her while keeping all her research notes and the serums she created. The fact that he got Rafe to run the car off the road was purely evil. He indirectly caused the death of a baby. All of that shows his ego centric thinking. Victor Cassadine is thinking… Read more »

KansasGuest
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KansasGuest

What I like about this storyline is that both characters were true to form. Cassadines should never be trusted to reveal their entire hand, and Robin was too arrogant in thinking she had any sort of control over the situation. If she had consulted someone who knows the Cassadines about Victor’s proposal, she would have known to read the fine print. But, she’s never been like that. Robin may be a good person. But her hubris is that her ego, like many brilliant doctors, makes her think she knows the right answer before everyone else. Victor played her like a… Read more »

rebecca1
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rebecca1

Sometimes I’m more interested in how the actor comes across in an interview than what he or she has to say about his character and/or story line. In this case I was surprised at a few things; I think Thaao did come across a bit sexist…I don’t think the best villains are necessarily men. Literature and film are full of femme fatales and evil bitches. On GH alone both Helena and Dr. O are just two examples. And I’m not sure if I were an actor playing a love interest if I would admit publicly that I wondered if I’d… Read more »

jimh(leave it to beaver)
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jimh(leave it to beaver)

Had to reply here…i know what you were saying…the past is gone and GH will never be the show it was 30 years ago(actors died, retired moved on but i wasnt saying bring back those characters from 30 years ago)…i can easily see that its not they 80s but i dont see why it cant be similiar in some way with the next generation…im not an Olivia fan but i see good chemistry with Ned and together they could become the next Monica and Alan…Olivia and Ned could fall in love, get married and move in the Q mansion…Monica married… Read more »

rebecca1
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rebecca1

I understand what you’re saying jimh. Actually, I do like Olivia and Ned together…I had forgotten that she had a connection to Lois so that’s an interesting thing in and of itself in that Sonny’s not her only Bensonhurst connection; Ned is too by association. And, I’m beyond happy that Ned is there at all! I know he’s on another show so I’m surprised he’s been putting in time at GH. I hope it’s going to be on a regular basis. I also understand what you mean about building on the Qs…I’d like that too. But I still feel that… Read more »

Shay
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Shay

@rebecca1…..It sounds as though you have never visited TP’s Twitter page, because if you had, you would be well aware that at times he can be rather outspoken and provocative in his views. I find it to be part of his considerable charm, but for the uninitiated, I suppose it can be unsettling! However, I do have a different take on his comments questioning his character’s “attraction” to Kathleen Gati’s Dr. O. I don’t believe he was being disrespectful to the lady or her sex appeal, but was as part of his acting process wondering out loud how he got… Read more »

rebecca1
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rebecca1

Actually, I looked it over very quickly after reading this interview. Don’t get me wrong, Shay…I welcome all things Cassadine. I like Victor, in all his eviltude…he’s soft spoken and elegant which belies his dark side. He’s actually the embodiment of a vampire…looks like he could be one of a certain age…he charms and allures…then comes in for the kill. However, what I’m saying is a few of his answers hit me in a negative way… First about his attraction to Dr. O. I still think he was talking about himself…whether he would be attracted to her. I think that… Read more »

rebecca1
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rebecca1

ugggggggg…hear not here!

Shay
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Shay

I can certainly understand your drift on how some of TP’s responses seemed rather negative, particularly those regarding Kathleen Gati, but having said that, I am still very much looking forward to those two working together again. Both have that really intense, worldly quality, no doubt inspired by their own very interesting and cultured backgrounds. I failed to mention before that having worked for so many years with Leann Hunley as Anna on DOOL also probably furthered the actor’s comfort zone with beautiful blonde leading ladies, and so it may be a bit of a stretch to be imagining himself… Read more »

su0000
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su0000

THAAO: Robin is a sacrifice in a way, and she serves her purpose in all of this, and people are blaming me for getting Kimberly off the show! She wanted to get off the show, because she wanted to direct. It’s one of those things where fans are saying: “You better not get rid of her because I am coming after you!” And I am going, “Are they for real these people?” I have had a few threats. -////- You look at these people who take the stuff so seriously. It is amazing how analytical the fans can be, and… Read more »

jimh(leave it to beaver)
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jimh(leave it to beaver)

GH and Port Charles and the people who live and work there arent fictional….they are MY FAMILY and are ‘REAL! REAL! REAL!’…lol

KMB
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KMB

I’ve said it before….bring back Stefan Cassadine please!

rebecca1
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rebecca1

agree KMB…loved him! He WAS Cassadine…and made that castle where Nicolas lives a magical, creepy, interesting lair…

Christy
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Christy

victor would probably freeze him. te he he

Lin
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Lin

I did not watch GH in the Ice princess days and know nothing about this character. After Luke raped Laura and GH made them a romantic couple I did not watch for many years until Luke and Laura were off the show. So when the Cassadines were on the first time, I did not watch. I don’t know what’s going to happen. I find the on again off again Robin story lines stupid as the character is not acting like herself at all (not coming to help her husband when his baby died, not seeing her daughter- to maybe, maybe… Read more »

Christy
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Christy

i hear you on that luke and laura crap. I never could see how a rapist and victim could ever be made into a romance… even that rate aside, I never got into them as a couple. Love Luke, tho!

i kinda remember the ice princess and this character, but you can still find videos online if you want to catch him from way back when…. back when we were all a lot younger! ha!

Shay
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Shay

Oddly enough, Lin, during his initial appearance as Victor back in the ’80’s, TP was the least scary and intimidating of the three Cassadine brothers. Mikos was the eldest and the madman behind the whole Ice Princess scheme, and Tony was more the business brains….he had been the one to schmooze and gladhand the denizens of Port Charles along with his cohort, eccentric madcap heiress Alexandria Quartermaine. But Victor was the hot, romantic one….still dangerous, yes, but oh so handsome and dreamy! I’ll never forget his appearance on a yacht in a Polo shirt (or perhaps Lacoste…) and shorts! Oh… Read more »

Suz Boo
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Suz Boo

I think it is funny that people are haters of Robin…aka Kimberly! She doesn’t write these terrible storylines…goofy people, this is TV and not real life Kimberly is a great actor as others are but remember the writers write the storylines not the actors they act out what is on their scripts by the writers. Get real!

jimh(leave it to beaver)
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jimh(leave it to beaver)

Not really haters…just her storyline as you said its the writing and Kims off and on appearance…i dont hate the actress or character…just tired of them!!!

Omar
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Omar

Thaao is daytime soap legend and a great actor..But this entire storyline sucks..In fact all the storylines are just downright ridiculous, dull, silly and lingering with no reward..GH is in a bad place this summer..Hopefully by fall it will get better..I still and will continue to tune in.

Iakovos
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Iakovos

Just not feeling this story line at all. Miss the genuine humanity. It may be there cloaked in all this fantasy and strangeness but really, I would rather it be not so difficult to find. Had hope GH would not become so over the top during this renaissance. It only gets worse for me.

Omar
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Omar

Agree..No humanity and a hot mess of a storyline.

janet
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janet

Thaao I liked on Days. When I watched some of it. I am sorry that TIIC of this show think its great to demonize the characters who don’t toe the mark. Kim and SK come to mind. KIm wants to do other things. So they try to make the fans hate her and think she is awful. Robin that is. The only thing this story does for me is make me wonder why. Personally I don’t think Jason could ever be any more evil than he was under Guza. Kill for money ??? Kill for money, kill for pleasure ?… Read more »

Patty
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Patty

We don’t need 3 somes filler story, we need story lines that connect characters and not have so many small stories that start and then dropped for weeks at a time. That said still a big fan. 🙂

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NATAS Reveals Categories to be Presented at 49th Annual Daytime Emmys and Creative Arts & Lifestyle Ceremonies

On Monday, The National Academy of Television Arts & Sciences (NATAS) announced which categories will be presented at the 49th Annual Daytime Creative Arts & Lifestyle and the 49th Annual Daytime Emmy Award ceremonies.  Both award shows will be held at the Pasadena Civic Auditorium in Pasadena, California.

The Daytime Creative Arts & Lifestyle Emmy ceremony will stream live at 9 PM ET/6 PM PT on Saturday, June 18 at watch.TheEmmys.tv and via The Emmys apps for iOS, tvOS, Android, FireTV, and Roku. while The Daytime Emmy Awards telecast will be presented live at 9 PM EDT (replay at 9 PM PDT) on Friday, June 24, on the CBS Television Network and streamed on Paramount+.

Check out the alignment of categories for each show and ceremony below.

The 49th Annual Daytime Creative Arts & Lifestyle Emmy Awards

Saturday, June 18, 2022 

Categories to be awarded:

Outstanding Culinary Series

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Outstanding Instructional and How-To Program

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Lifetime Achievement Award: This Old House

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The 49th Annual Daytime Emmy Awards

Friday, June 24, 2022

Categories to be awarded:

Outstanding Daytime Drama Series

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Outstanding Lead Performance in a Daytime Drama Series: Actress

Outstanding Lead Performance in a Daytime Drama Series: Actor

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Outstanding Younger Performer in a Daytime Drama Series

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General Hospital’s Nancy Lee Grahn Chats On Her Daytime Emmy-Nominated Performance and Its Significance

When the nominations were revealed for the 49th Annual Daytime Emmy Awards, General Hospital mainstay, Nancy Lee Grahn (Alexis Davis), was recognized for her stunning work in the Alexis-centric standalone episode which honored her 25th anniversary with the ABC daytime drama series.

Grahn, is already a two-time Daytime Emmy winner.  She won back in 1989 in a tie for Outstanding Supporting Actress for her work as Julia Wainwright on Santa Barbara along with All My Children’s Debbi Morgan, and again received the honors in that category in 2012 for her work on General Hospital.

Now. she is vying for the gold in 2022 in the Outstanding Supporting Actress in a Drama Series category against other formidable actresses including: B&B’s Kimberlin Brown, DAYS Stacy Haiduk, Y&R’s Melissa Ordway, and her GH castmate, Kelly Thiebaud.

Michael Fairman TV caught up with Nancy to talk about her decision to enter the Emmy race this year, her powerful and moving scenes, why this nomination is significant and important to her, and her take on some very important social issues of our time.

Always candid, insightful, combined with great humor and wit, here’s what Nancy had to share below, and make sure to check out GH this week when sparks fly between Alexis and Gregory (Gregory Harrison). Will he turn out to be the new beau in Alexis’ life? Stay tuned.

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Congratulations on the Emmy nomination.  How do you feel about being in the running again, especially with the material from your 25th anniversary episode?

NANCY:  You know, I don’t submit myself if I don’t think I have something, and I didn’t last year.  This year, I had the one show, and the first reason I submitted myself was I had the episode that was worthy of the competition. These judges have to sit, and watch this stuff, and very often, it’s hard to watch soap opera scenes.  It really is, unless you’re in it.  It’s a different kind of material that most primetime people aren’t used to watching.  So, it’s tricky business.  I don’t want to put them through anything too awful. I don’t want to torture them and I’ve judged before. It can be a bit tedious. So, for me to submit myself, I thought, it has to be something that isn’t going to torture another human being. The second thing is, older women get marginalized the older they get, and they get diminished very often, and every time we get nominated, it means something different to me.  This time, to me, I want it to somehow be symbolic, or a shoutout to women who are still producing, who have been doing their job for a long time and are still doing it good enough, and that it’s still worthy of respect and recognition.

When we were at the GH Convention back in March, I played the scene on-stage for the fans in attendance of when Alexis goes over to the corner of Kevin’s office and heals her younger self.  You saw the reaction just from the fans.  It’s such a beautiful moment within the story.  What did you think about how the standalone episode was crafted?

NANCY:  It was a different experience for me because GH co-head writers Chris Van Etten and Dan O’Connor, and script writer, Scott Sickles gave it the attention, but even more to that, they allowed me to participate in the creation of it.  They allowed the director, Phideaux Xavier, to participate.  We all sat in a room.  They said, “You know what?  Make it how you’re comfortable with it.”  There were so many people who gave it time and effort, and Phideaux gets a lot of credit because he came up with a lot of ideas.  So, the little girl in the therapy room wasn’t initially a part of it.  That was Phideaux’s idea, and they let us alter things, and they allowed me to write some words that meant something to me with the character.  Our producers, Michelle Henry and M.K Weir, who I both adore, were also a part of this.

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That is great to hear that you were involved in the collaborative process of the creation of the episode.

NANCY:  We read through the whole script, and we worked it like you would on primetime. We went through it like, “Does this moment work?  Does that moment work?  Does this make sense?  Does that make sense?”  We never do that in soaps.  We don’t get to that.  So, it was a gift to me.  It really was. Chris and Dan, and Scott and Phideaux, and the two producers, generosity in gifting me that experience and making sure that it was to everybody’s liking, was really very special to me, and it meant a lot.

Did you come up with the key lines which summarized Alexis as a person and her journey: “I’m Alexis Davis, and I’m a fighter, and an idealist and an advocate?”

NANCY:  No. They designed it, but we were allowed to enhance and contribute creatively to it, and, we don’t normally have the time to do that.  They don’t have the time to – and you can’t allow people to do that with every episode, to be creatively participating, because it would turn into madness with everybody.

Then, when it came down to choosing the scenes from your anniversary episode to include for your Emmy submission, was that a challenging process of which moments to go with?

NANCY:  I just told a little story with it with the time that I had, and so, I edited it with a friend of mine.  I did a sort of pre-edit on it, I’m good at that, and handed the timeline to our editor, who nicely put it together. It took very little effort.

In my humble opinion, I think that episode featured one of your all-time best performances.

NANCY: Thank you. There was a nice effort from everybody, from the lighting to everybody else, and all the effort Phideaux put into it.  He worked so hard on that!  It was fun for us.  It was like the old days where you really got to work something out.

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It truly harkened back to everything we knew up to that point about Alexis and her past as well, and included a montage of scenes over the years.

NANCY:  I think it was M.K. who put that together, but when you’re working at the pace we’re working now, to have to sit and put together a montage of twenty-five years, that’s not an easy feat.  Nobody has time for that anymore, but they did it, and like I said, it was really, really appreciated.  My only thought with it is that I wanted it to be relatable to other people.  I didn’t want it to just be some, you know, self-indulgent Alexis episode. I knew that by bringing in the little girl and talking about people being hurt in their childhood and how that makes somebody feel that it was probably relatable to many people, and so it became meaningful to other people and not just me.

Do you think you’ll attend the Daytime Emmys? I know the last time you won you were not present.

NANCY:  Yeah, I’m planning on it.  I mean, barring anything happening! (Laughs)

Does it feel nice to be recognized by your peers?

NANCY:  Of course, it does.  It always does, and way too often, women who are still producing well in their jobs, don’t get the respect and the acknowledgment for it.  So, that’s why I’m saying, this is no small thing, and that I want other women to know that I know that, and that I wish for them the same thing.

What was the reaction of your daughter, Kate and your fiancé, Richard, when you told them you were Emmy-nominated?

NANCY:  Richie goes, “What is this?  Your 18th nomination?” (Laughs). You know what I mean?  It was just kind of like, “Yeah, sure, why wouldn’t you be?” It wasn’t like, “Oh, my God!”  It was like they kind of expected that.  That was nice!  I’m glad they feel that way.  I’m glad they weren’t surprised.  They were like, “Sure!  Of course, you would be.  Why wouldn’t you be?”  I said, “You know, it doesn’t always work like that!”

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Now comes the part of having to find a dress and all that goes with it for the red carpet.  Do you enjoy that part?

NANCY:  No, I hate that part.  That is my… oh ‘boohoo’, you know?  I mean, I have to find something to wear.  Also, the older you get, that becomes so much less important, and the more makeup, and the more hair, and the more foofy, the more ridiculous I look. I start looking like Whatever Happened to Baby Jane.  You’ve just got to keep it simple.

You were talking about women and ageism.  Do you not feel that also exists for men?

NANCY:  It exists for men, but it’s not at all on the same par as women.  I mean, men still get paid more than women, and men still are valued more than women.  I mean, there are exceptions, but if you look in any place of employment, even the soaps, you will typically find the men making more money than the women, and the older the women get, the less they get.  Life’s not fair right now.  It’s fairer than it was, but still the equality game is not won yet.

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I know how much all of this means to you in terms of equality for women, and people being run out of their jobs because of their age.

NANCY:  It’s just a reality.  It’s not something that I’m hopeless about, but I have a story to tell.  I’ll tell it when the time is right.  It’s life!  It happens in every field everywhere.  When my mom was 70, she was still producing the exact same way she was producing when she was 30, and she got run out, and was replaced by a man who was 40 or something, and there was no particular reason for it.  It was just, “You’re done.  We decided you’re done,” but like I said, it happens everywhere, in every line of work, and that’s why I just wanted to give a shout-out, when you still, after 36 years, can be recognized or shown respect or acknowledgment for what your do.  It’s a very big deal that I am appreciative of and grateful for.

So, rooting for Nancy to win the Outstanding Supporting Actress prize? Happy she was nominated for her work in the the milestone episode devoted to Alexis? Share your thoughts in the comment section below, and to tune-in to the 49th annual Daytime Emmy Awards on CBS and streaming on Paramount+ on Friday night, June 24th.

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GENERAL HOSPITAL: What’s Up With Elizabeth?

Friday’s episode of General Hospital, finally moved the story of the haunting of Elizabeth (Rebecca Herbst) along a bit, after it has been a very slow build for the audience. As it turns out, and with the new developments, it appears that Liz has been going in and out of a catatonic state, while sleeping walking.

With a tip from Violet (Jophielle Love), Finn (Michael Easton), who is chatting with Gregory (Gregory Harrison), recalls Liz was having trouble sleeping and was that she given a sleeping aid. He thinks he may be on to something so he decides to go to Liz’s house to talk to her.

Meanwhile, Liz comes to her house and tears Finn and Violet out of the picture that Violet drew, and then gets a scissors and starts cutting pieces off of the drawing, bit by bit.

Cameron (William Lipton) comes home and see his mother.  She does not respond to him and appears in a trance-like state. He is getting more upset by the moment, and then Finn arrives on the scene.

Finn is able to get the scissors from Liz, and also get her to snap out of her trance.  Liz talks with Finn and wonders what is happening? She doesn’t even remember how she got home.  When Cameron fills Liz in on what she was doing … cutting up the drawing and all … Finn tells Liz he believes she is the one who is haunting herself.

In tears, if what Finn is claiming is true, then it is she who is responsible for slashing her dress, setting fire to Franco’s studio, and hitting Chase over the head.  In that moment, a teary-eyed Liz recognizes that something is terribly wrong, saying, “What’s happening to me?”

Finn promises Liz they will get to the bottom of this as Cameron looks on.

So, what is happening to Liz and why? Is this just a case of another sleeping pill storyline on soaps, where someone does not recall their actions or where they are going in the middle of the night a la Nighttime Hope on DAYS? Is someone controlling Liz to make her do these things?  Is something else physically wrong with Liz causing her behavior? Share your thoughts on this storyline … and where you think this is all heading via the comment section below.

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