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Jake Silbermann in "Dracula" & Thora Birch fired from production because of her dad!

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Hopefully, all this drama off the stage, will help get more folks into purchasing tickets for the production. Hopefully, Jake will have a chance to shine in this thing and prove all the naysayers wrong about him being a crappy actor.
Jake was giving the back rub. People who saw the show last night pretty much confirmed it (that, along with him having a really bad English accent). I have to say, I’m pretty put off by the Facebook update Jake gave on Sunday, writing: “Dracula is going into previews in two days! Oh yeah, we made a little cast change that you’ll read about in the ny times tuesday. Just made the show a whole lot better. Very exciting.” Are you kidding? Jake needs to look up “professionalism” in the dictionary. It’s not okay to gloat about someone being fired… Read more »
Connie… I think a poorly constructed headline on this column may have led you to make assumptions not based on fact. It’s very easy to make an accusation with such a generalized statement as “people who saw the show pretty much confirmed it.” Did you canvas every member of last night’s audience? Funny this is the only place I have heard any criticism of Jake or the play. Last time I checked the cast list, there was more than one male actor listed. Whoever was rehearsing the scene with Thora was complying with the director’s request. Since when does the… Read more »
I didn’t criticize Jake for giving the back rub, so don’t act like I did. All I did was confirm it was him. And considering that his actor is in a scene where he touches the other character’s back – and his is the only character to do so – then it’s him. If it was the direction, fine.
I’m criticizing him for making an unnecessary and unprofessional post on his Facebook about it. If Jake was to make it as more than a soap actor, then he needs to grow up.
Awwww…. Aren’t you just showing how to spread the love? 🙂
Connie, why not say what you really mean? “I am not a Jake Silbermann fan. I do not wish him well, and would like to take this opportunity to make presumptions and cast a negative light on him, so that the others will agree with me and not like him, too.” It’s amazing to me that people take the time to come on here and post in this manner about any actor. If you don’t like him, why even bother with any of this? It’s like anti-fandom: following what’s happening with someone just to knock them. It’s a phenomenon I’ve… Read more »
Jake is a victim now? I think maybe you should take your own advice about making false accusations.
Jake will always be a victim, because he wasn’t appreciated enough by TPTB at ATWT.
We, his die-hard and loving fans will always support him and look at for his best interests at heart. He made us love him for his slight, understated performance, in a role that made him a worldwide success.
Why can’t folks just let him be and let us bask in his otherworldly epicness?
“Professionalism” (aka ass-kissing) is overrated. Keep on rockin’, Jake.
Connie, Im sure it was jake who was rubbing her back, he is playing jonathan harker, Lucy’s fiancee, I should think that they would do more than rub backs in a play about sexual awakening. And true it probably was a little unprofessional for him to post something like that, although I didn’t read it as gloating at all. Sounded more like relief. If you do a little research you’ll find that Thora has been fired from her last two jobs and the reasons sited are in both cases her ex porn star father/manager/body guard who has routinely made others… Read more »
Connie, Jake is professional, and it doesn’t even matter who the actor was. Read the full article; they were doing what they were being directed to do. If it was Jake, could even the bitter, vindictive people who inexplicably hate Jake simply because of a character he played (I can smell a Noah hater a mile away) honestly believe he was being in any way inappropriate with a co-star on stage, during rehearsals, or that he has the power to get another actor fired? Jake hasn’t done squat to deserve the kind of attacks he’s gotten from a certain fanbase.… Read more »
Since I didn’t even bring up ATWT, I’m not the one who needs to move on. And, again, NO ONE IS CRITICIZING JAKE FOR FOLLOWING THE DIRECTION. I have an issue, as do many people who aren’t blinded by fandom, with actors gloating about someone being fired. (And, guess what, I have seen some die-hard Jake fans take issue with his Facebook status as well.) And I liked Jake just fine, until he started showing signs of bitter behavior, with this and with some of his comments after ATWT ended. It’s now become a pattern of behavior.
Where exactly has Jake shown bitter behavior exactly? I mean up until the last few months and I mean those after the show ended has Jake gotten any real coverage and no where have I read or heard was Jake bitter. Also I wouldn’t call Jake’s status gloating but I guess its all in how you want to take it I guess.
Bitter behavior with some of his comments after ATWT ended? WTF are you talking about? If anyone had a right to be bitter, it was Jake in the way he was treated by the show the last six months it was on, but Jake only took the high road and conducted himself with dignity and class. I just cannot believe on some people continue to stomp on actors to make their cause seem all the more worthy.
Oh well, rock on, Jake!
Well, here I go. Connie, it is obvious from your original comment that you don’t particularly like Jake. That’s fine. Do you need to come on and make a snide comment, “along with him having a really bad English accent”? I guess the answer is yes and that’s what makes your world go round. If Jake is the unnamed actor he didn’t do anything wrong. Thora at almost 30 years of age should really cut the strings to her father before it totally ruins her career. And yes you are blaming Jake to some degree by your comment, “when he… Read more »
Good God. Carry on with your inability to read.
Connie, you didn’t have to mention ATWT. As I said in my previous post, it’s easy to spot Noah haters, especially the ones who irrationally transfer that hate to Jake because they don’t have the capacity to distinguish an actor from the role he played on a soap. Your take on that fb status and the news of TB being fired is expected. Talk about a “pattern of behavior”. There are certain members of a disgruntled fandom (hey, we all got screwed) who have a knee-jerk, cynical reaction to everything Jake does and says, and after all this time they… Read more »
Connie, please supply one example of “bitter behavior” Jake “showed” at the end of ATWT.
*crickets*
I was never a Nuke fan and always a LuRe fan, but i have to take Jakes’ side in all of this.He has no blame here and was doing his job as an actor.He really is a nice person.The blame should be on the Father of that actress that was fired. It’s like the Father wants the final say and that won’t work for his Daughter at all.I wish Jake continued success in his career.And please don’t think all Lure fans are Jake haters because we’re not!!!
Well I appreciate your post mmc. Sometimes on this site it does seem that way, only I know it’s not the case, because the vast majority of LuRe fans I’ve met think Jake is great. I guess sometimes the few naysayers are louder, but you’re right to remind us they do not represent the fandom. 🙂
This is the last comment I’m leaving, because it’s tiring to talk to people who deliberately misread things, as I never said Jake was wrong about touching the actress or whatever. I said his comments were unprofessional, which THEY WERE, especially since he was involved in the situation. And saying he was involved in it does not mean he was TO BLAME, just that he was involved in it, WHICH HE WAS. As for Jake’s bitter comments, one prime example is when someone left a nasty comment about CG on his Facebook page after the show ended, and Jake “liked”… Read more »
Connie I wouldn’t exactly call that bitter but more like basically how some have been feeling towards Goutman and that is he treated not only Jake like crap but most of his veteran actors. If Goutman had even cared about using Jake and the rest of the veteran actors and a few other things then the show might still be on.
**Anna doubles over in laughter** Really?!? Are you kidding me?!?
So, let me get this straight, pressing “like” to a comment that you agree with is a bitter comment? On what planet? He simply agreed with something. No comment. No verbal interaction. Simply agreed by pressing a button.
“I could give other examples, but why bother?” Why not? Because there are none to post.
I’m done with silly people being silly.
It seems like Connie is saying Jake “liked” some nasty comments made about his former boss, or to use MDFawns wording, Jake “agreed” with them. This is the same Jake who, the consensus seems to be- was treated like crap by that same boss and TPTB in general. I think reading some bitterness into that agreement is pretty easy and fairly reasonable. I don’t yell BITCH to my former boss on the way out the door unless I have some issues with her. Liking or agreeing that your former boss is a shit or whatever nastiness was directed toward Goutman… Read more »
Well, if someone is threathened with violence, then he pretty much is the victim…
Jake fans, keep rocking!
Go, Jake, Go! 🙂
Connie, as the non-Jake fan who keeps commenting on Jake articles seemingly just to denigrate him, it rather seems you’re the one who hasn’t moved on. And there is no pattern of behavior; just a pattern of twisting behavior to suit your negative image of the guy. Again, I ask, why bother? You don’t like Jake — we get that. Why is it so important to you to come in and post negatively towards him? Do you never ask yourself what it is in you that makes you need to do that (to Jake, his fans, or anyone, for that… Read more »
quasar, I wish I hadn’t bothered to post before because you’ve said it so well. I try and try to wrap my mind around this weird phenomenon, and I just can’t. I really admire all 3 actors, so maybe that’s why. Jake is my favorite, and I was a total Nuke person, but I can’t remotely envision resenting Eric for the fact it was him who got all the storyline this year, while Jake’s character was written poorly, and pushed aside. They all just did their jobs, because each *is* a professional. All 3 have only ever had good things… Read more »
I think the only person to blame is the actresses father. If jake was asked to rub her back during a scene, how is it his fault, he was only taking direction, he has to or he would be the one fired. I think its a really good idea that they fired the actress considering her father’s over reaction over a simple back rub, I think her father is overly sensitive given his porn career….. Lol or maybe there is more to this story. jumping on an innocent poster is really un called for. She only posted what she was… Read more »
So Connie gives her opinion- in essence that Jakes comments were unprofessional- and around 20 replies attacking and psychoanalyzing Connie for this and for “not letting go” follow- and Connie is the one with the problem? Does anyone think Jakes comments on Facebook were a good idea and something a professional would do? That was the point of her comment. Would it inspire faith if your doctor, lawyer etc posted something similiar about their work situation? You don’t denegrate your coworkers, not in public. Things like that may come back to bite you the next time you look for a… Read more »
You have a right to your opinion. In mine, I see his comments, as I said, as making the best of a bad situation. He knew Emily was taking over and wanted to voice his support for this. Nothing unprofessional about it.
Bingo, Gina. That comment was not just giving support, and most people in a professional setting would agree. I agree that saying something like you suggested below would have been a lot better.
Well there is a simple way to do that.. something like ” I am so excited Emily is joining us!” would suffice. And it would have been great if you have your opinion and I have mine were the responses that Connie got rather that being rung out like a rag because she dared to say Jakes comments were unprofessional. Imagine the shoe were on the other foot and Jake just got fired from his job on the show.. And Thora posted something similar on Facebook. The tar would be hot and the feathers would be being plucked. Its easier… Read more »
One point we are trying to make is, why do non-Jake fans keep jumping into Jake stories in the first place, just to cast their negative opinions of him? I don’t see anyone going into Eric stories on here and bashing him. This happens with EVERY Jake story on here since I’ve visited this site. It’s like it’s not enough that some people aren’t Jake fans (which is fine!), but that they can’t let anyone else be without trying to crap all over it. That isn’t classy, just tiring.
Well I agree its a time waster, but that is just my own opinion. The internet is all about wasting time though and expressing every. single. thought. that enters our foolish heads. We won’t always agree. People post simply because they can. Case in point below LOL It really bothers me that what I am guessing are adults jump all over someone for expressing an opinion– and not an opinion out of left field even- its easy to draw the conclusions that Connie did if a person is unbiased in looking at them- you don’t have to hate Jake to… Read more »
If someone jumps into threads of someone they’re not a fan of just to cast aspersions on them, then they can well expect responses from that person’s fans. As well they should. Yes, she has the right to air her opinion, but so do we. (And yes, imo we have the right to question why she feels the need to always spread negativity about the person). She isn’t being jumped all over any more than she is jumping all over Jake. She *is* being challenged, and when you post as she does, that will happen. If Eric or Van were… Read more »
So she has the right to her opinion but should not be surprised when those who disagree immediately get personal with her for it? That is being challenged? LOL. Nice. Because you do know when you say a person is indulging in a peculiar, weird phenomena, lamenting their supposedly sad life, and urge them to get over it, you are getting personal, right? You are insinuating none too subtly that they have a problem. All because she said Jakes comments were unprofessional and she felt he was bitter? In a fandom where we are supposedly by association particularly sensitive to… Read more »
-Connie’s opinion is always negative towards Jake; therefore she is expressing her opinion AND spreading negativity. Of course I don’t like that she continues to do it in Jake threads– that is sorta my point. -I didn’t accuse her of posting anything she didn’t; I referred to the things she actually posted in threads at this site. -Yes, in my opinion the urge to follow people one isn’t a fan of just to post negativity about them is a weird phenomenon. That said, it isn’t unique to Connie. In my opinion that is an odd thing to want to do,… Read more »
Sorry about the late response Nicole, I had forgotten about this thread. Late late late! it is equal parts funny and sad that you think I must be Connie simply because it offends me to see people pile on the person with the minority opinion. I would hope more people, no matter who they agree with on what topic, would step in if someone was being shouted down. Freedom of speech and all. I suppose you don’t see it that way. For the record I am not Connie. Anyway, for my part- this behavior is embarrassing. Its embarrassing as a… Read more »
No shouting down occurred. Perhaps an overwhelming majority expressing an opinion contrary to yours and Connie’s felt like shouting.
http://michaeljaytheatre.blogspot.com/2010/12/dracula.html “Now at the Little Shubert Off Broadway, that same 1927 version of DRACULA is back. This production has its little changes, edits and adjustments, but it is more like the production an audience might have seen in the ‘20s than it should be. That is to say, we have been through a lot with Dracula since Bella Lagosi and the melodramatic hokum of that era’s stage is hard to take seriously today. I wanted to love this production so much, but it was impossible. This material is delicate, for there are nearly ridiculous and grandiose lines that must be… Read more »
See how many followers that dude has? 10, one of them even is himself. He can’t even spell the name Bela Lugosi right. That should tell you what to think of his expertise.
I have been using this username in the fandom since the beginning of time, so I’m going to assume that this is just a coincidence and you will stop posting in my name. Thank you.
I think Connie is missing the point. Everyone has a right to their opinion, certainly. What I don’t get is why she and a few others follow Jake around on FB and to every site that mentions his name only to get on the comments and dog him and then dog him some more. What is the purpose? To make your man look better? Because you, yourself are bitter? I don’t like some actors, and I would never follow them around and dog their every move. I just ignore them. But some of these bitter ESS/Reid fans just will not… Read more »
Amen.
I’m a Lure fan and i love Van Hansis but i would never talk trash about Jake .I like him as himself and wish only the best for him.Please don’t think that Eric and Vans’ ‘ fans don’t wish Jake well.I can’t imagine someone disliking him because they were not a Noah fan.Unfortunately there are rotten apples in any group, but I’m not one of them!I wish all of these talented men success in whatever they choose to do!
I just had someone review one of my Nuke fanfic. I was told that Noah should have died and LuRe deserved the happy ending… I was basically told not to post anymore Nuke fanfic’s on the site, only LuRe fanfic. It’s not true of course and I could careless and I’ll continue to write what I want.
md , as I said, in any group there are rotten apples.Even though I wanted Luke and Reid to have their happily ever after, i wanted Noah to have one too, just not with Luke. And please continue to write.I’m presently writing my own Fan fiction .You should continue to write what you want .I’m a LuRe fan and you’re a Nuke fan and that’s fine.We don’t have to agree as to how we want our stories to end but we should do do it in a respectful way.And again, that LuRe fan doesn’t represnt me and most of the… Read more »
Reviews from NY Times
http://community.nytimes.com/rate-review/theater.nytimes.com/show/25464/Dracula/overview
“This Dracula is so bad it is not even tempting to leave at intermission. You want to stay and watch the second Act to see how much worse it can get.”
You really need to stop posting in Epstein’s name. It’s not funny or cute. Epstein is the biggest Jake/Noah fan there is, so stop hiding behind a well-known user name in the fandom to post your not-so-undercover Jake hate. Step on up and put your own name on your posts.
Why are you presuming that I’m a “Jake Hater”. I’m following what’s going on with his work in the off-Broadway production of Dracula, because I do like him. It’s not my fault that there hasn’t been any positive reviews so far. It’s like as a fan, I should put my head in the sand, regarding all negative press, because I’m scared that he might not get a good review. I don’t want to be that sort of fan. I’ll take the good with the bad, regarding Jake. I also didn’t know that “Epstein” was only supposed to be used by… Read more »
I love Jake Silbermann and not admit anyone to speak ill of this wonderful man who charms us with her talent, her beauty and her character for honesty. I wish I could have watched Dracula, but I live in another country. I love the character and I love Noah Nuke. Jake Silbermann I will hold forever because he is my favorite actor. Jake and Van are loved by many people in various countries around the world, who love and always will love the characters Luke and Noah. Stop that despite because while some are barely talking to Jake, he is… Read more »
We love you Jake Silbermann every day more and more.
Van Hansis and you deserve all the success in the world.
I love you with all my heart.
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