I didn’t criticize Jake for giving the back rub, so don’t act like I did. All I did was confirm it was him. And considering that his actor is in a scene where he touches the other character’s back – and his is the only character to do so – then it’s him. If it was the direction, fine.

I’m criticizing him for making an unnecessary and unprofessional post on his Facebook about it. If Jake was to make it as more than a soap actor, then he needs to grow up.

Jake is a victim now? I think maybe you should take your own advice about making false accusations.

Jake will always be a victim, because he wasn’t appreciated enough by TPTB at ATWT.

We, his die-hard and loving fans will always support him and look at for his best interests at heart. He made us love him for his slight, understated performance, in a role that made him a worldwide success.

Why can’t folks just let him be and let us bask in his otherworldly epicness?

Where exactly has Jake shown bitter behavior exactly? I mean up until the last few months and I mean those after the show ended has Jake gotten any real coverage and no where have I read or heard was Jake bitter. Also I wouldn’t call Jake’s status gloating but I guess its all in how you want to take it I guess.

Bitter behavior with some of his comments after ATWT ended? WTF are you talking about? If anyone had a right to be bitter, it was Jake in the way he was treated by the show the last six months it was on, but Jake only took the high road and conducted himself with dignity and class. I just cannot believe on some people continue to stomp on actors to make their cause seem all the more worthy.

Oh well, rock on, Jake!

Well, here I go. Connie, it is obvious from your original comment that you don’t particularly like Jake. That’s fine. Do you need to come on and make a snide comment, “along with him having a really bad English accent”? I guess the answer is yes and that’s what makes your world go round.

If Jake is the unnamed actor he didn’t do anything wrong. Thora at almost 30 years of age should really cut the strings to her father before it totally ruins her career. And yes you are blaming Jake to some degree by your comment, “when he played a direct role in the situation.” He didn’t play any role. He did what he was told to do and some freaky stage father approached him and threatened him. Did he report it to the director and producers? Who knows. Maybe another actor did. Whoever did was also right in doing so. Birch is obviously obsessed with his daughter and needs help before someone does get hurt.

Jake’s comment. Could he have said it differently? Yes, of course. But I guess I see it as maybe he was trying to put a positive face on a bad situation and trying to be encouraging and supportive of the actress in the role and the production as a whole. I guess it’s all in how you look at it. If you don’t like Jake in the first place (you) you’re going to see negative. If you like Jake (me) you see the positive.

Bitter comments? I’m with Katie, WTF??? The only negative, backhanded comments I’ve seen from anyone since ATWT’s demise has been the obviously ego driven, backhanded comment Chris Goutman made in the NYTimes article about STUFFER. Bitter much Mr. Goutman.

I’m done.

Good God. Carry on with your inability to read.

Connie, you didn’t have to mention ATWT. As I said in my previous post, it’s easy to spot Noah haters, especially the ones who irrationally transfer that hate to Jake because they don’t have the capacity to distinguish an actor from the role he played on a soap. Your take on that fb status and the news of TB being fired is expected. Talk about a “pattern of behavior”. There are certain members of a disgruntled fandom (hey, we all got screwed) who have a knee-jerk, cynical reaction to everything Jake does and says, and after all this time they still can’t seem to move on. They continue to dog and trash him with a near-pathological zeal. They’ve given Jake quite a drubbing these past few weeks. Why? Because he had the audacity to find success. An award for the short film he wrote and produced at the first festival to which it was submitted, and now an important role in an Off-Broadway play with a pretty impressive cast. And that burns those people, because it doesn’t fit their agenda; it wasn’t supposed to be him. Jake was treated like garbage by the show and certain corners of fandom, and also by the soap press, but he’s been nothing but gracious. You believe him to be such a bitter person? Who do you think helped facilitate Eric’s recent interview with BlazinRy on BTR? It was Jake. Ryan is a friend of his from school. Gee, what a jerk. His friend get a boost for his new radio show and Eric had the opportunity to promote his independent film and speak with fans, some of whom continue to treat Jake like something they scraped off the bottom of their shoes. All the more reason to appreciate the gesture. Jake has said on many occasions how much he liked Eric and how much he enjoyed working with him. When ESS/Reid fans were posting on Jake’s fb about the fundraising they were participating in on behalf of Eric, Jake enthusiastically congratulated them. Bitter! Van, Jake and Eric were actors doing what they were paid to do, and unless you think all three of them are liars, they had a good time working together and respected one another. There’s enough room in the acting world for the three of them, and I’m sure they’ll each continue to find success. Other posters have mentioned the peculiarity of someone following the trail of an actor they so obviously dislike. There are plenty of actors I’m not fond of. Why would I waste my time pursuing stories about them online just so I could let everyone know how much I don’t like them and how awful I think they are? It seems to be important to you that others share your negative opinion of Jake. Why not just save yourself the obvious grief he causes you and forget about him? It’s long past time for some people to find a little perspective. It was a soap opera.… Read more »

Connie, please supply one example of “bitter behavior” Jake “showed” at the end of ATWT.

*crickets*

Well I appreciate your post mmc. Sometimes on this site it does seem that way, only I know it’s not the case, because the vast majority of LuRe fans I’ve met think Jake is great. I guess sometimes the few naysayers are louder, but you’re right to remind us they do not represent the fandom. 🙂

Connie I wouldn’t exactly call that bitter but more like basically how some have been feeling towards Goutman and that is he treated not only Jake like crap but most of his veteran actors. If Goutman had even cared about using Jake and the rest of the veteran actors and a few other things then the show might still be on.

**Anna doubles over in laughter** Really?!? Are you kidding me?!?

So, let me get this straight, pressing “like” to a comment that you agree with is a bitter comment? On what planet? He simply agreed with something. No comment. No verbal interaction. Simply agreed by pressing a button.

“I could give other examples, but why bother?” Why not? Because there are none to post.

I’m done with silly people being silly.

It seems like Connie is saying Jake “liked” some nasty comments made about his former boss, or to use MDFawns wording, Jake “agreed” with them. This is the same Jake who, the consensus seems to be- was treated like crap by that same boss and TPTB in general.

I think reading some bitterness into that agreement is pretty easy and fairly reasonable. I don’t yell BITCH to my former boss on the way out the door unless I have some issues with her. Liking or agreeing that your former boss is a shit or whatever nastiness was directed toward Goutman implies he had a problem with him and considering the situation- bitterness about the way he was treated seems likely. Why is this hard to admit or grasp?

Seriously you guys- IF Jake was/is bitter, he has a right to it and no one can blame him. Making lame excuses for it is just funny.

Well I agree its a time waster, but that is just my own opinion. The internet is all about wasting time though and expressing every. single. thought. that enters our foolish heads. We won’t always agree. People post simply because they can. Case in point below LOL

It really bothers me that what I am guessing are adults jump all over someone for expressing an opinion– and not an opinion out of left field even- its easy to draw the conclusions that Connie did if a person is unbiased in looking at them- you don’t have to hate Jake to see it this way. And this dog-pile reaction makes everybody look ridiculous. Is it unnecessary negativity? Maybe. But the internets is a mostly free country LOL. This thread wouldn’t have gotten this silly if everyone had simply been allowed their own view without the armchair psychology and had read what the girl had actually posted.
If you think Connie is a troll there is a simple way to silence her- let it lie.

For myself, I think Jakes FB comments were fairly tacky, but the guy is human and he is young and the internet is full of people who type first and think later.- it happens all the time. Maybe Thora treated him like dirt. Still tacky, take the high road dude- at least in public. And I think “liking” or whatever he supposedly did with the snarky comments about CG imply bitterness but who gives a crap if he is bitter?
He is due- heck, I was bitter FOR him.
Jake being fallible isn’t news over here and it doesn’t make a bit of difference to me- still like the guy. For me I can look at Connies comments about Jake and think *yeah, I can see that* and still come away thinking Jake is an OK dude even if Connie is 100% right on. She could be totally off and so what? Jakes still working, we still love him and its all good regardless of what gets typed here.

If someone jumps into threads of someone they’re not a fan of just to cast aspersions on them, then they can well expect responses from that person’s fans. As well they should. Yes, she has the right to air her opinion, but so do we. (And yes, imo we have the right to question why she feels the need to always spread negativity about the person).

She isn’t being jumped all over any more than she is jumping all over Jake. She *is* being challenged, and when you post as she does, that will happen. If Eric or Van were treated like this here, as their fan I would be just as quick to spring to their defense. In my short time here, I have only noticed this phenomenon with Jake. It’s sad it happens to any of the actors. They all did their part to bring us a memorable story, which in addition to the grief we all remember at the end, brought us a lot of enjoyment before that.

So she has the right to her opinion but should not be surprised when those who disagree immediately get personal with her for it? That is being challenged? LOL. Nice. Because you do know when you say a person is indulging in a peculiar, weird phenomena, lamenting their supposedly sad life, and urge them to get over it, you are getting personal, right? You are insinuating none too subtly that they have a problem. All because she said Jakes comments were unprofessional and she felt he was bitter?
In a fandom where we are supposedly by association particularly sensitive to tolerance and bullying I find this highly ironic.

Get this, she is not spreading negativity. She is expressing her opinion. You don’t like it and don’t like that she continues to do it.
That is really your problem isn’t it? Did you notice what she posted versus all the shit you and others accused her of posting here that she didn’t actually post? LOL!

-Connie’s opinion is always negative towards Jake; therefore she is expressing her opinion AND spreading negativity. Of course I don’t like that she continues to do it in Jake threads– that is sorta my point.

-I didn’t accuse her of posting anything she didn’t; I referred to the things she actually posted in threads at this site.

-Yes, in my opinion the urge to follow people one isn’t a fan of just to post negativity about them is a weird phenomenon. That said, it isn’t unique to Connie. In my opinion that is an odd thing to want to do, and suggests some unhappiness on the part of the person. Because of this, I genuinely feel bad for her.

-Finally, for you to take so much offense at others expressing their opinion, while wholeheartedly endorsing Connie’s right to express hers, I suspect you and Connie are, in fact, one and the same.

No shouting down occurred. Perhaps an overwhelming majority expressing an opinion contrary to yours and Connie’s felt like shouting.

I just had someone review one of my Nuke fanfic. I was told that Noah should have died and LuRe deserved the happy ending… I was basically told not to post anymore Nuke fanfic’s on the site, only LuRe fanfic. It’s not true of course and I could careless and I’ll continue to write what I want.

md , as I said, in any group there are rotten apples.Even though I wanted Luke and Reid to have their happily ever after, i wanted Noah to have one too, just not with Luke. And please continue to write.I’m presently writing my own Fan fiction .You should continue to write what you want .I’m a LuRe fan and you’re a Nuke fan and that’s fine.We don’t have to agree as to how we want our stories to end but we should do do it in a respectful way.And again, that LuRe fan doesn’t represnt me and most of the LuRe fans!!!!!