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RATINGS: GH and B&B Show Gains In 18-49 Demo, But All Soaps Slip In Total Viewers



The ratings are out for the last week of January (25-29).  And overall, the four networks soaps slipped in total viewers with The Young and the Restless and Days of our Lives losing the most. However, both are still well ahead of pace at where they were last year at this time.

The interesting news comes in the key womens 18-49 demo where General Hospital gained the most viewers for the week with +49,000, making it the highest amount of viewers in that category for the head writing regime of Jean Passanante and Shelly Altman.

The regime also scored a high for the 18-49  ratings share, and GH was the only one of the four network daytime dramas to show an increase in viewers in the womens 25-54 demo.  As compared to the other three soaps for the ratings week, GH lost the least total viewers.

Additionally, The Bold and the Beautiful also showed gains in the 18-49 demo with +19,000.  You can view the entire ratings picture via SON here.

Numbers are based on Live+Same Day ratings

(Compared to Last Week/Compared to Last Year)

Total Viewers
1. Y&R 5,095,000 (-213,000/+298,000)
2. B&B 3,974,000 (-89,000/+6,000)
3. GH 3,060,000 (-71,000/+73,000)
4. DAYS 2,678,000 (-194,000/+234,000)

Women 18-49 Viewers
1. Y&R 722,000 (-33,000/-69,000)
2. B&B 618,000 (+19,000/-97,000)
3. GH 591,000 (+49,000/+45,000)
4. DAYS 505,000 (-43,000/+19,000)

So, what did you think of the ratings performance of your favorite soap?  What show right now is making you want to tune-in everyday?  Is there a show that is making you want to tune-out? Share your thoughts in the comment section below.

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Happy for Peter Reckell as he chose his family but cant help but look at this and say ” DOOL should have never killed Bo”


did it seem like; as Jason was carrying Sam in to the emergency room at hospital…. when he was telling medics her stats…..

DID HIS MEMORY RETURN with that big kaboom ! at Liz HOUSE ?

just saying

or lordy… don’t even get me started with how bad Kelly Monaco acting is…

her fantastical visions apparitions oy! “I knew you would come for me”

it was all so… cloy; bubblegum;

is this all it takes for the whole world to pull asunder…. ??? Jason and Sam takeover?

Lol, Patrick. Had the words ( in Sam’s case mumbled words) come from someone else, they would have held more credence. I agree…. that bland, unfeeling acting left me wanting more.
What truly struck a discordant note with me was, “oh, my dad is going to blame you, Jason…” , or whatever it was she told Jason. Then, Alexis is all bent out of shape because she is sure a ‘criminal’ such as Jason must have hurt her daughter somehow.
From what planet do these people hail? Seriously? Alexis has been changing hands from one mobster to another….she actually lives with one; has had children with mobsters, and now she pulls her lackluster, dented, rusty halo from the bottom of her bag of tricks?
One redemption for Sam. As I have said before, I think Sam is honest. I knew she was going to tell the truth. I just wasn’t sure if she would remember how she fell because of the concussion.
I know Liz deserves her just desserts…karma and all that….many were waiting for her comeuppance, including myself; but, boy, Patrick….I felt so badly for her. Her desperate tears and the wretched look on her face when she eyed her burned house, just tore at my heartstrings.

Thanks for posting the ratings, Michael.

General Hospital is on fire right now and the proof is in the numbers! Jean and Shelly are getting the job done as headwriters.

Five weeks in a row of over three million viewers! The first time that’s happened in this current decade. Ron was pulling in about 2.5-2.6 million viewers a week on the average during his final four months.

Demo numbers in the 18-49 nearing close to 600K! A new high for Jean/Shelly since they took over in October. We are far removed from those mid to low 400K numbers that Ron was pulling in on the average during his final four months which lead to 18 weeks of lows.

The only soap to gain viewers in the 18-34 and 25-54 demos and a jump to second place in the 18-34.

GH is up from last year in overall viewers as well as 18-49 and 18-34 demos.

The first week of Feb Sweeps should be good when the ratings are released. GH had two great Friday cliffhangers to close out Jan with the Kristina/Parker twist and Sam/Jake in the basement.

PRATT is losing steam again, His few weeks of Great Gains have gone by The wayside. The Demos are terrible, I’m shocked they had the 3 days above 5 mill then sliped again by the end of the week.

Y&R has been terrible so there is no mystery as to why they lost viewers. Think about it, who has been on screen this past week. Marisa and Lucas suck! Noah, who just isnt ready for a corporate story. I like the kid but he just seems lost when he is in scenes with heavyweights like Billy, Victoria, Adam and Chelsea. Cane is so weak and Lilly is such a hypocrite! The new computer geek girl is annoying! What story is really worth tuning into now?

Exactly!! The show it’s self has lost it’s voice, PRATT isn’t cutting the mustard anymore.

IMO, he never did – his so-called HW tenure has produced nothing but tediously rehashed, plot-driven (yet convoluted) bottom-of-the-barrel stories.

What this show is currently lacking is creativity – how about a creative Executive Producer?!?

I will send Jean and Shelly back to Y&R for you guys! 🙂

Oh, Timmm, but Noah is gaining steam…LOL. is this the new, improved Noah we are seeing? Poor guy! He is trying so hard to be a Victor-type Newman. I am a little confused….what are TPTB doing? Noah, the toughie, is not palatable….not believable. And, for this, I feel sorry for him.
Is Adam taking the back seat, now? Has he tucked his tail between his legs. What happened to his thirst for revenge against his father? I liked it better when there existed a certain amount of antagonism between them. It did create drama. This soap is so adding for dome drama. Where is this going?
All I know, I can’t stand Luca and his cat-that-ate-the-canary attitude any more.
Sorry, for the rant, my Timmm. Luv-ya.
I am actually looking forward to a Patty storyline, in the hopes that it will lead to Christian!

….so lacking for some drama

Either Noah will go to far and his life will hang in peril OR he will conquer Luca and make Grandpa Mustache VERY proud!

As it should be. I watch YnR & GH daily and the ratings are understandable.

Why did GH gain women viewers? Well, like them or not su0000, Jean and Shelly are writing stories with more heart and trying to bring more love in certain characters lives. AND, with the sexy Griffin in town now, the girls got some eye candy AND another reason to actually focus on the HOSPITAL! Women generally like Liz and we all love Robert and Anna on the screen! RATINGS UP!

im with you timmm, for me the hit and run plot is tired, no one really feels luca is a threat, internet plot lame and lily and cane are done
i only tune in on days with hevon, ashley and neville or sharon and nick
pratts losing the very minor interest i had

Its simple, Billy was lying on the ground beaten to “Death!” All Noah had to do was explain that he didnt know what was under his car, apologize and move on! Its not like Billy ran out in front of him and Noah kept going or his was DUI and was covering that up!

Timm, I totally agree with you.

Thanks Lew. I love Y&R but they need to clean house and refocus! I hate to see anyone lose their job but the characters I mentioned are useless to the show. I dont understand why they got rid of Avery for this! Courtney was growing on me and I would have loved to see her and Noah be the next Nick and Sharon? And Michael and Lauren, hello! Did they even wrap up his cancer story or are we suppose to forget it ever happened?

Sounds like such a tough elusive game plan, hey Timmm?

Write stories viewers like + use characters they care about = Ratings Success.

Unlike the old RC Formula, which was:

Completely gut the show of any decent or likeable characters + put newbies front and centre + shove veterans aside + dumb down the characters and stories to the point of absurdity = RECORD Low Ratings and a Pink Slip..

There was nowhere to go but up for GH, as cancellation was the ONLY other option.

Amen Dylan! I did like Ron’s humor, though. Soaps, as in real life, you have to find humor in most things or you will go bonkers! My biggest problem with Ron or maybe it was Frank is bringing in legacy characters as window dressing and not giving them anything to do! The ladies seem to want to write some dialog and a story with a beginning, middle and end! Now lets get Laura moving!

awww Timmmm..
J&S seem to writing for grandmas, especially those godawful sex scenes lol..
I dunno.. It really is BORING and going nowhere fast..
The Dante, Lulu and Val triangles is horribly dull..
Alexis and Julian have been drained of their fire and turned into old people babysitting stuff..
Sonny is a smiling monk.. I’m waiting for him to be surrounded in a glimmering golden light..
I’m sick to barf with long drawn out everyday bipolar stuff, poor morgan can’t even get it up, same as they wrote for poor Micahle’s penise cancer.. J&S simply don’t like virial men..
They have has 5 months to reveal Jason, but keep him as Jake..
There is not one suspenseful story, not even a good mystery, nothing exciting, GH is a sleeper..
Hayden and Nikolas started out to be mysteriously interesting, now they are nothing much..
Ratings will soon start to drop, wait for it 🙂

su0000ster, J&S will always have the music box on their resume BUT I am willing to give them or any writer a year to turn things around. I do miss Ron’s campy, tongue in cheek style BUT he seemed to write little pockets or bits and not stories. Sonny, they are redeeming him. It may be a bit boring but once he walks he will light em up! The bi polar story is very sloppy, I agree. Jason is the new Fluke, I agree. BUT, I do see structure and I do see vets getting a chance. One thing none of the writers have done in years is rebuild the Q’s. THATS what I would like most.

Oh, my SuzieQ; not to worry. Sonny’s head will never be surrounded by a golden or silvery light. Vampires cannot tolerate light of any kind.
I must say, though….look at what these writers are doing to Nathan. Stuck in the chicken coop. Hens a-clucking….A love triangle perhaps? LOL.
I did not find that little skit in Maxie’s apartment amusing, if that was their intent.
I do agree with you in one respect, su….the men are being emasculated , one by one.
Bye, babes.

“Days of Our Funerals.” Killing off all those characters didn’t help them one bit, only fueled a big turn off from viewers.

Not surprised Days is at the bottom. They lost me as a viewer again; wonder how many others bounced too. Nothing is working on this show. All the 50th hype has left it a mess.

I can’t take the Hope ‘melodrama’ any longer. She is an adult; a seasoned cop, for Petey sakes…..stop with the Maid Marian, “rescue me, Rafe” syndrome. I can’t take the kids anymore either. Can it get any more insipid in Salem?
As someone already mentioned; it was so nice to finally have Steve and Kayla come together, when TPTB had to spoil the pretty picture with Ava. I know, I know, I’m whining…..
Just one more thing: I wish Belle would frame that dry hair around her prominent forehead…grow bangs, or something. YIKES!!

Hey, Ces…you are S-O RIGHT ON!!!!! To me, N-O-T-H-I-N-G is working (or watchable) on DOOL!!!!! AT ALL!!!!! A-n-d…I think that the following person is to blame ALL-AROUND: KEN CORDAY!!!!!!!!!! Beyond sad.


Well Jaybird, they got renewed so hopefully they will fix their problems for the fans they have left. I, for one, am glad to have another 40 minutes in my life to do other things. :). Take care!

Of course they are, we were promised romance and we have not gotten any. Belle jumping Phillip’s bones is not romance. Getting Steve and Kayla back together was a start but then they brought in Ava, a waste of airtime. Hope’s gone off her rocker, our favorite villain was shot down in cold blood by one of our beloved favorite characters. There’s been nothing but murder, death and stress, people watch soaps for a little drama, a little romance and an escape. Days is just full of stress lately~ no fun!

Dottie, My thoughts exactly! Many may say they want action and thrills, but the basis of soaps is romance and couple to root for. Hopefully, DAYS will listen to the viewers and slow it up with the death of the week/month.

Days of OUR Lives : Daniel; some Daniel; more Dan – i – e – l

I don’t know how to address this…. Daniel, died News Years Eve ?
they had what seemed like a month long memorial !

I just found it stupefying that so little attention was made; Will, Bo, Aiden, Paige, Serena

perhaps it’s because he was a Saint
perhaps it’s because he had his hand/person in every thing

that a memorial and gathering took up Horton Square

lo and behold… it was a time for the audience to be reminded of how much we missed Arianne Zucker.

I probably deserve to be haunted by …… ” – D – a – n – I – e – l – “

As I predicted- that slight bump reported last week was because people were home on Monday for the holiday and home Friday because of the blizzard– and this rating period they were all back to work.

As for the stories. I know soap time moves differently than ours, but leaving poor Sam in the cellar for a week was annoying, had to watch a lot dribble each day to find out what happened to her, and I suspect many other viewers were doing the the same.

As for B&B I think Liam believing Quinn is his wife is priceless. I could watch those two all day. This has been the most refreshing version of Brad’s Triangle fixation yet. Let Wyatt have Steffy, I think having these two mortal enemies, Liam and Quinn, actually fall in love would be the best thing to happen in a long time on the show– it’s funny, it’s odd but there is something sweet and tender to it as well, as I watch Liam’s misguided affection work on Quinn’s harden heart. So you betcha I’ve been tuning out Days to watch B&B, because of Quinn and Liam– that story is hilarious and hopeful and after all the dark, depressing stories on Days I need a story that makes me smile.

Leaving Sam in the cellar for a week is nothing for J&S..
Their stories go on and on and on and on, some without end..
It’s how they write, very long stories drawn out stories..
Speed is not their thing, quite the opposite..

As bizarre as The Quinn and Liam story is, I’m really enjoying it, too. Probably the first time I have actually liked Liam since I started watching B&B a couple of years ago. Always like Quinn since Rena playing Lois at GH. It will be interesting where the writers take this story because you know it’s got to implode at some point.

General Hospital spoiler alert – Day 5 of Sam continuing to lie on the floor.

I’ll wait 6 days if the character will die!

Seriously, how is she still in that damn basement? Didn’t Jason or Liz notice Sam’s car parked in front of the house when they went looking for Jake? Or are we supposed to assume Sam hoofed it over there in those 8-inch stilettos of hers?

This story was much better written the first time I saw it when Gigi was trapped in a carbon monoxide filled basement on ONE LIFE TO LIVE…

Too funny! And, so a’ propos!

I am liking Liz and Franco together… they are a a great MATCH….. .

General Hospital is awful. Cannot stand to watch anymore!

Thanks for posting the ratings, Mr. Fairman, and for all the work you do. You seem to keep on top with everything.

I love GH but I’m constantly bothered by how the writers just don’t think anything through – this is in response to the posts above about Sam in the basement. Everything is done so the plot they’ve made up will work, so stupid things happen.

I have to agree, I miss Ron’s campy humor. Unfortunately at the end of his regime, he seems to have dried up. I heard there was network interference, I don’t know.

And by the way, for those of you who haven’t seen Michael Fairman in person, his photos do not do him justice. Very very handsome.

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Soap Favorites Jason Cook, Brytni Sarpy and Jacob Young Visit the Michael Fairman Channel

On Wednesday night, February 28, Four for Fun, the movie written and directed by former Days of our Lives and General Hospital star, Jason Cook (ex-Shawn-Douglas; ex-Matt, respectively), which stars Brytni Sarpy (Elena, Y&R) and Jacob Young (ex-JR, AMC, Lucky, GH, and Rick, B&B), will have its premiere as part of The Golden State Film Festival.

If you’re in the Southern California area, tickets for the festival and to see Four for Fun showing at 7:30pm PT can be found here.

In the premise of the film, a dinner party between two couples experiencing eleven different endings, all of which points to the same conclusion – the best possible life comes from the one lived the most in the present. Sarpy and Young play one of the couples and actors Donovan Patton and Annika Foster, play the other.

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After its premiere at the festival, on the next night, Jason, Brytni and Jacob will visit You Tube’s Michael Fairman Channel for a livestream conversation about the making of the film, working with each other, and a discussion on their numerous soap opera roles and much more.

It all begins on Thursday night, February 29th beginning at 8 pm ET/5 pm PT. Make sure to join us in the live chat, so you can ask your questions and share your comments with this talented trio.

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Check out the trailer for Four for Fun below, followed by how to watch the livestream interview.

Then, drop any questions you would like us to pose to Jason, Brytni and Jacob in the comment section, and we just might ask it live on Thursday night.


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DAYS Blake Berris to Chat Live on the Michael Fairman Channel as Everett & Bobby’s Story Heats Up

The tale of Everett Lynch and Bobby Stein is starting to reveal itself on Peacock’s Days of our Lives, which puts returning cast member, Blake Berris front and center in story.

On Monday’s, February 26th episode of DAYS, the results of Everett’s CAT scan indicate he suffered a traumatic brain injury which jives with his story that he was in a car accident and spent in a year in a coma, or does it?

Stephanie (Abigail Klein) and Everett are reeling that Everett as Bobby Stein was married to Jada Hunter (Elia Cantu) and treated her badly. While Everett claims he doesn’t remember anything about his time as Bobby, despite his fingerprints matching those of Robert Stein’s, Marlena (Deidre Hall) ponders if he could be suffering from PTSD, which might explain his memory loss.


Everett wonders if he has a brain tumor, but Marlena points out that they would have found it on the CAT scan. While there is no obvious reason for his memory loss, Kayla wonders if he is faking his amnesia? Marlena tells Everett that she is a psychiatrist and they should set up sessions immediately. Will it be revealed that Everett and Bobby are split personalities living inside one man?

Blake Berris is set to chat about the latest storyline developments and more, when he visits the Michael Fairman Channel on Wednesday, February 28th beginning at 3 pm ET/Noon PT.  Make sure to join Michael and Blake in the live chat for your turn to share your questions and thoughts on the story.

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Days of our Lives fans first met Blake when he played the character of Nick Fallon who was eventually murdered in 2014. Later, Nick made a few return appearances from ‘the grave’, in 2021 and 2023. Recently, Blake returned to the show in his newly-minted role of Everett Lynch at the end of October of last year.

Blake will talk about portraying Everett/Bobby, plus working his co-stars, and being a dad to his three boys, and more.  You can catch the livestream below.

Now, let us know, what is your theory about Everett Lynch and Bobby Stein? Looking forward to hearing what Blake has to say? Share your thoughts in the comment section.

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Days of our Lives Legendary Susan Seaforth Hayes Talks on the Horton House Fire Storyline, Mourning the Loss of Husband Bill Hayes & His Near-to-Final Performances

It has been an emotional time for longtime fans of Days of our Lives and beloved veteran, Susan Seaforth Hayes (Julie Williams). On-screen, the iconic Horton home was burned to the ground in what appears to be a storyline-dictated decision that shocked many. In real life, Susan is mourning the loss of her husband and DAYS enduring favorite, Bill Hayes (Doug Williams), who passed away at 98 in January. Over the weekend, during the 2024 SAG Awards In Memoriam tribute, Hayes was remembered along with other motion pictures and television stars whom we lost over the past year.

Since the Peacock streaming soap opera tapes months ahead of air, the Horton home fire and its aftermath are currently playing out in all-new episodes with more on this story featuring Susan to come. Bill Hayes also appeared in several of these episodes making it all the more touching and heartfelt.

When Julie came back to the Horton home to see what remained of it after the fire, Days of our Lives fans were treated to a heart-tugging episode that streamed last Wednesday, February 21st. In it, newly-taped scenes of a young Tom (Zach Chyz) and Alice (Sydney Kathrann Smith) Horton telling the story of how they came to live in the house to raise their children, juxtaposed with Julie and Doug (and members of their family and friends), surveying what’s left of the beloved house, brought many a tear.

Michael Fairman TV talked with Susan Seaforth Hayes for this very candid and heartfelt conversation to get her feelings on the Horton house fire, and being given the opportunity to have a storyline at this point in her storied career. In addition, Susan provides some insight on what it was like for her ailing late husband to tape scenes at DAYS shortly before his death, what the series plans to do about writing off the character of Doug while honoring the legacy of Bill Hayes, and how she knew she had the greatest love affair that anyone could hope for in their lifetime, which in turn, has inspired all of us.

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I was shocked when they decided to burn down the Horton house. Were you at first devastated … and did you know that there would be a big story surrounding it?

SUSAN: I did not know how big a story was with it. I knew that many years ago, another regime had planned on trashing the set and getting rid of the set because nobody cared about the Hortons anymore. It was stopped by one person, and I was eternally grateful for that. This time I thought, “Oh, my goodness! I guess I’ll be meeting people for a cup of coffee at the Horton Square. No home, no roots, no reason to be called in,” and thinking that’s the end of Julie. That’s the end of Doug and Julie. Then, when they began to structure a story around it, I think all of this came up during the writer’s strike. So of course, I was curious to see how this was going to turn out. I enjoyed the aftermath, because in the aftermath, and a little bit before the fire, if you saw the show, I get to talk a bit about the history of the household and the people in it.

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In the special episode that aired last Wednesday, Julie gave Leo (Greg Rikaart) the family tree history of the Hortons for his story in the Spectactor.

SUSAN:  I’ve had a couple of good long soliloquies about the past. I’m fated to be the character that does that because I’m the one still standing. I must say, I do enjoy doing them. Emotionally, all I have to do is rerun some of the actors and my own family in my mind and the emotion starts to come, you know, the emotion starts to flow.

Julie talks to Maggie (Suzanne Rogers) immediately after the fire. She is upset that the Horton family Christmas ornaments are gone. Fans were not happy that they could possibly have burned up. Thank God! There was a happy ending when they were located and unscathed, or there would have been hell to pay! 

SUSAN: I knew that they were in the prop room and that they still existed. But how much they were going to put a story around their loss, I did not know. We don’t get to ponder the plot. We just get to show up and start doing it. I think on this particular matter, something as important as a structure of the original set of the show, there’s been quite a bit of interest. So, I can appreciate that.

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I was thinking, ‘Did they decide to burn the house down, because they were finally retiring the old Horton home set?’ What was the purpose of it?

SUSAN: They’ve done everything to make quicker set changes, which is remarkable and very efficient right now. The set designer said, “I’ll be interested in your input,” which was nice. The one thing that I loved that had been done, didn’t work. You couldn’t shoot into it. It was a federal mirror over the mantle. I loved it. The size was perfect. I was just delighted. And then, we tried to shoot it, and because of the roundness of the mirror, you got a perfect view of camera one and camera three. So, it came down.

This is Julie’s project to renovate the home. She’s determined to bring back all the memories and redo it?

SUSAN: Absolutely, which is another nice note to play for my character. She’s determined to make the house something that her grandparents would recognize and still feel comfortable in.

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What did you think of the episode that just aired where the show incorporated flashbacks of a young Tom and Alice Horton?

SUSAN: Well, I set it up. They had their own their own lovely scenes. I read them, and I’m sure the audience was charmed.

What do you remember when you first came to DAYS, and you were in that house, in that set?

SUSAN: What did I notice about the set? I noticed that it was a strange shade of green. (Laughs) It was explained to me that that dull color meant that your face would pop on color TV. I understood that. I loved the little window up the staircase. I’ve always loved that. And at one time, there was a model of the house that sat on the set on its own little pedestal, a little playhouse of the exterior of the house. Whenever the house was on (and remember this is when we were a half-hour and practically live, but not live, because there was no editing), there would also be the sound of a barking dog whenever we reached the Horton house neighborhood. We never saw the dog, but I’m sure his name was “Spot”, and I’m sure he belonged to someone.

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You shared so many scenes with Frances Reid (Alice) and MacDonald Carey (Tom) in the Horton living room set and up till they passed. Did they get along well with Bill? Looking back, how was your relationship with them?

SUSAN: They loved him. Well, Mac and Billy had worked together before in theater. Mac was very kind to me at the beginning and helpful. Frances was as well. As Frances got older, she got a bit testy. When someone says, “You’re not going to read the line like that … are you?” It catches your attention. (Laughs). I got peeved at Frances from time to time, but her intent was always to make everything as good as it possibly could be. I saw her come back from her stroke. learn to talk again, learn to do it all again. Not do it easily, but to do it at all was wonderful, and the same with Mac. In his last shows, he was very frail, but we’re actors. We liked being there.

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During the taping of the episodes surrounding the Horton house fire, Bill was mostly in them with you. How was Bill doing at the time you taped these scenes?

SUSAN: He was okay. He was up for it. He had difficulty moving at that point. So, they restricted his movement a lot. Bill always enjoyed coming to work a lot, and it was extremely difficult for him because he was blind, and didn’t move very well. And now, to do a scene with people who may or may not, have rehearsed with you, who may or may not, give you the exact cue, and when they are attempting to have you look each other in the eye, you can’t see who’s eyes they are, that was the hard part. The easy part was working with him, which was lovely and was a gift. It was a gift from Corday Productions that he was able to work within three weeks of his death, which I thought was super and extraordinary.

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That is amazing. Did Bill understand everything that was going on at the time of the tapings?

SUSAN: Absolutely. He understood what was going on. He just couldn’t see it or touch it.

The timing couldn’t have been easy for you with Bill’s declining health, and that the show was going to burn down the Horton home where you shared so many scenes and memories.

SUSAN: Well, it hasn’t been my greatest stretch. But I knew that life would be like this. I’ve had five decades of an absolutely wonderful, blessed marriage and a chance to work and a chance to live in my own home and travel, all good. And now, we’re going to have the epilogue. And the epilogue is the hard part, seeing rapid change around you and losing the people that were the center of your life. I’ve just been very fortunate to have cultivated some wonderful friendships, and to have a wonderful large family of Hayeses.

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You do realize that you and Bill were the gold-standard of what we all should be lucky enough to have in our lives. What an incredible, beautiful, passionate, loving marriage that the two of you had. You don’t see marriages like that anymore. We were all just in awe of the two of you. To us, it was the greatest love affair. You got to have that which is so extraordinary.

SUSAN: I know, and it was all Bill. I mean, any idiot could have been married to Bill Hayes and been deliriously happy. The guy was so perfect in every way that you really would have to pick something and blow it out of proportion to ever complain about any of his traits of character. He was just all good character, goodwill, and good humor. I just followed along and tried to live my life for him, with him, and follow his style, which I hope to carry on. I hope to be as good to people as he was to people, and, not be selfish.

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I always remembered how the two of you would come to the studio with your suitcases, ready to work no matter what material, large or small, they gave you. You showed up. You just had such great work ethic and you don’t see that as much anymore.

SUSAN: At the moment, it’s hard to find it everywhere. I think it’s probably generational. You cannot get too angry at people that are still holding up their phones in the one rehearsal that we have. I think it’s more convenient to receive your work electronically, but somehow it doesn’t seem quite as real. You don’t have a script in your hand anymore unless you print one up yourself.  Sometimes you haven’t met the person you’re working with. Well, that’s not unusual, but no rehearsal at all, that’s kind of marvelously new.

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Does Julie lean on anybody for emotional support as she tries to rebuild the Horton home. Who’s there for her?

SUSAN: As far as I can tell, nobody. I’m supposed to be the wise woman, and Marlena (Deidre Hall) is supposed to be the other wise woman. I haven’t had any scenes with Marlena for help. I would think Marlena would be the person I would be going to for grief counseling, for friendship, for all of that. I haven’t seen it in the scripts, yet. I’m still deeply entwined with Chad’s (Billy Flynn) storyline.

How is Billy Flynn to work with?

SUSAN: A pleasure. Billy Flynn has grown a lot as a human being and as an actor since I’ve known him. I’m really enjoying his company and really enjoying doing scenes with him. We rehearse and then we get on other subjects and laugh and talk and inform each other. We’re interested in a lot of the same things. He’s a new parent. He’s really devoting himself to that, to that experience in the best possible way. So, I’m lucky.

Do Julie and Chad try to figure out who set the fire?

SUSAN: Oh yeah.

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I kept thinking about how Julie got burned in the kitchen fire years ago and her face was scarred, At the time, your mother Elizabeth Harrower was writing DAYS and wrote that for Julie. Did you hate that story?

SUSAN: Well, I know where the story came from. It came up from something in mother’s own life. I knew the people involved, and I wasn’t crazy in love with the idea. Then, when it was supposed to go for six weeks and went on for months and months, I was concerned. Mainly, I was concerned that my face was going to be affected because of the appliance, the scars, that I was wearing. I was told by a dermatologist, “You’re going to have a little beard after this. Ripping your face every single day to get this off is going to be hard on you.” But, I seem to have survived.

Has the show even addressed with you how they plan to handle writing-off the character of Doug Williams, and how they want to honor Bill?

SUSAN: Only in the smallest way. I had a conference call with the producers and our head writer last Friday. I was informed about the immediate, immediate future. I’ve also been promised that they’re going to keep me busy. It’s a cast of over 40 people. I’ll be happy to show up and to be included.

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I was just hoping that whatever they decide to do with the character of Doug that they were going to run it by you, first.

SUSAN: They have, and they have been very sweet about it.  I’ve got to tell you, this regime, they have a sign up on the wall now, that says, Things we expect on this stage.”  The first one at the top of the list is “kindness.”

Have you watched your work back all these years? I know some actor’s never like to watch the scenes they taped.

SUSAN: I think you learn by watching yourself, if you have an open mind, and if you are not hypercritical, or dismissive. I cannot be dismissive of a character that has given me such a wonderful life. I’m still interested in Julie, perhaps I wouldn’t have been if I’d been on the show for three years and never returned to it. But I’m quite interested in her now, and what she has to offer as a member of this ensemble.

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Julie’s ties to the whole history of Days of our Lives from this point on are very important. How do you feel about that?

SUSAN:  There are those that don’t care about the history of the show. I know that. I know there are those that only care about continuing with something snappy to keep eyes on the screen through action, adventure, drama, death, kidnapping, missed opportunities, all that, which I suppose that’s what the audience craves. But, that’s not just what the show can do. What the show can do so well is character. There’s a lot of people over 70 who are still on the show now. I’m the oldest one, but I’m not the only one. We’re coming up on the 60th anniversary. I don’t think the show is worn out. And if it is, it’s had a remarkably successful six decades.

Lamon Archey (Eli) is back on DAYS for a stint. What has it been like to work with Lamon as his on-screen grandmother?

SUSAN: I think he’s terrific and visually he is so beautiful, so appealing. I think both Eli and Lani (Sal Stowers) are very appealing as characters. I’m delighted to be connected to Eli as a family member. That was a lucky break for me.

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Do you think DAYS fans are going to continue to be emotional in the aftermath of this fire and all the story that comes out of it? Do you think we’ll be touched by what Julie goes through to get the remains all cleaned up for a new house?

SUSAN: I think anybody in America who’s gone through a disaster, and have unfortunately had the disruption of their home, will be sympathetic and interested in how it all turns out. It’s a nice note to play. We haven’t had to do that very often. We just go from one lovely apartment to another without much discussion. I think this is the one set that meant a lot to people. I was very sorry to lose “Julie’s Place,” as it turned into kind of a sandwich shop. I still loved having a business, a tangible place to be, and an alternate place for people to meet.

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Upon reflection, what was your favorite scene with Bill? Was it when Julie and Doug got married on-screen, or was it something else that was much more intimate?

SUSAN: I think our last scene is going to be more important, emotionally. I think the first wedding was beautiful, but the material around the time of our second wedding, when Brenda Benet (ex-Lee) came back on the show and Doug stood up to her and says, “I’m not going to be manipulated anymore,” was also strong. There has been a lot of very important times – when Doug was killed-off by James Reilly, and we met in the tunnel of light. That was a day. That was a difficult day, which I certainly can’t revisit right now emotionally. When Julie found out Doug had run off and married her mother, Addie, that was a day. It was a day because, I went to the producer at the time, Jack Herzberg, and said, “Is this it? Am I not going to work with him anymore?”And he said, “Right! That’s it. You’re not working with Bill Hayes anymore.” We were not married at the time, and I thought I was going to go through the floor! That wasn’t a happy day.

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In terms of Bill’s final day on the set with you, did you know that it was his last, and what would turn out to be his last scene?

SUSAN: Well, they didn’t know. But I knew. I had been allowed to rewrite it. So, I can’t tell you Bill’s last line now, of course, but I will in time.

What do you think about the sentiments shared by Susan on her late husband, and this storyline? How do hope the show properly honors Bill and Doug Williams when the series writes-off the character? Are you enjoying the Horton house fire story arc or does it upset you too much? Share your thoughts via the comment section below.

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