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RATINGS: Y&R, B&B, GH, And DAYS All Down In Total Viewers

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The ratings are out for the week of January 9th through the 13th and after showing a healthy increase over the holidays, all four network daytime dramas were hit hard in the minus column in total viewers.

It was CBS sister soaps, The Young and the Restless and The Bold and the Beautiful who were hardest hit losing -298,000 and – 290,000 total viewers, respectively.  The two shows were down in the key 18-49 and 25-54 womens demos, but showed gains in the 18-34 category. Y&R also tied an all-time low in the women 18-49 ratings share.

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As for General Hospital, they also took a hit losing – 165,000 for the week. GH also lost the most viewers in every key demo: 18-49, 18-34, and 25-54.

Days of our Lives, which just made a significant and game-changing move behind the scenes, hiring Daytime Emmy-winning writer, Ron Carlivati as the show’s head scribe by replacing Dena Higley, was also in the minus column, but lost -40,000 total viewers in comparison to their competitors who lost more.  DAYS was also up slightly in the 18-34, and 18-49 key demos, but in the minus column in women 25-54.  The show also tied an all-time low in the female 18-34 rating share.

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Overall, all for soaps were down significantly from this same time last year. View the entire ratings picture via SON here.

Numbers are based on Live+Same Day ratings

(Compared to Last Week/Compared to Last Year)

Total Viewers
1. Y&R 4,686,000 (-298,000/-583,000)
2. B&B 3,783,000 (-290,000/-215,000)
3. GH 2,653,000 (-165,000/-362,000)
4. DAYS 2,351,000 (-40,000/-440,000)

So, what do you think of this ratings picture? Which soap do you think is delivering right now the best drama to its audience? Which show is serving up the worst?  Share your thoughts and theories in the comment section below!

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Patrick
Patrick

I am mesmerized ; smitten ; in love ; taken ; IN LOVE @Days of OUR Lives

with Chad and Abs

the vibe and chemistry with this winsome twosome is their own show

they smolder me out… and yes… i’m in love with Billy Flynn acting… and this enchanting newbie Marcie Miller. My heart is real

this couple is all the hoopla they deserve

God I couldn’t be more excited that it’s still in the DiMera arena… and it’s so much FUN to see how Marcie Miller plays ABS…

these two acting gems… dang if it isn’t made better that they are young upstarts who have the acting gene inherent. YOU TWO ARE THAT GOOD

it’s a surreal experience to watch something come along… that just doesn’t happen that much… an acting skill that they’ve keyed in to and are REELING top draw

whew! I love this couple

Patrick
Patrick

@DOOL

I welcome Ron Carlivati…. you are my vengeance is mine saith the lord…
behead Frank / Jean / Shelley NOW

let’s take 3rd… and pull out all the stops

OK

FIRST and foremost; I’d like to acknowledge Ryan Quan… because; his tenure with Dena Higley… WORKED… not all #1 but rising to the occasion… DAYS is it’s own ship ; unique and definitely a huge production team… that is LIVE

i’d like to know what he contributed … it’s nice to say that his work… delivered. when do we ever read of newbie headwriters ? few and far between

I hope that @DAYS / Sony / NBC BUILD in and around Ron Carlivati… I loved him @GH. perhaps leaving continuity and history out of the equation… is too much… but his story arcs… are in demand with short term audience piqued… this is how it goes in a genre of sort

I HOPE hes in for the long run and duration of our beloved genre.this show must go ON

Boop
Boop

I’m extremely elated about Ron, too!

su0000
su0000

quote;
”Overall, all for soaps were down significantly from this same time last year.”

IMO-
the writers are too old and not writing for younger people, seems they are writing for retired peoples.
ALL the soaps are dull/lackluster, empty of intense and intriguing drama.

The writers are Not enthusiastic they seem to be just writing anything that doesn’t require imagination, new ideas, and energy.
The writers, all of them, seem to be suffering from fatigue and recycling old scripts that we all having lived through for many years..
)ie.. they simply don’t give a hot damn outside of a paycheck.
The soaps are going to their graves along with their writers.

People are tuning out because of lazy crappy writing and have decided to no longer waste their time FF ..

Soaps need Younger writers that have new ideals and energy that will actually care and write 21st century media/programing to renew interest.

rebecca1
rebecca1

I don’t know why you continue to offend. What do you get out of it? You make the same complaint over and over…soaps and soap writers are “too old.” Why watch? Soaps have been around for fifty years. Many of their viewers ARE older! And yes, they are and should be written for.

This is not a new genre. Seventy year olds aren’t complaining that MTV is written for young people. That The Flash is written for comic book fans. That BET is geared toward a black demographic.

If and when a new daytime soap is born they and if they are only going for a younger demographic they can hire all new writers, only hire younger people and you can have the soap you long for. That is not the current soap lineup. Either accept that you’re a relative newcomer to a decades old tradition/genre…don’t tune in…or resist the urge to complain to many of your fellow MF posters, who are in the age demographic you’re complaining about…that you’re not happy with all this “old” stuff. It’s “getting old.”

Addison
Addison

I agree, Rebecca. I don’t buy that the problem is the age of the writers. Sometimes age is just a state of mind. Look at Bernie Sanders–he has the energy, intellectual curiosity and passion of a thirty year old.
Alas, the soaps are not affording me much delightful escapism from this dystopian universe we have suddenly been thrust into.
GH’s Lulu falling through the ceiling only to land on the wedding cake seemed stupid, pointless and destructive. In fact, that scene was cringe worthy. And yesterday Victoria from Y&R came home only to discover her teenage son making out with Tiffany Maples Trump.

rebecca1
rebecca1

Ummmm…I only watch Y&R sporadically. Ms. Maples Trump wasn’t REALLY on, was she? LOL…you WERE making a funny, right?

Actually, I thought Lulu’s fall was a wee tad amusing. Well, funnier than Michael calling Sonny dad again…

Addison
Addison

The young girl who was discovered making out with Reed looked a lot like Tiffany Trump–so yes, I was kidding.
I feel that Tiffany is the Jan Brady of the Trump Bunch.
Instead of it always being “Marcia, Marcia, Marcia!” It’s always, “Ivanka, Ivanka, Ivanka!”

Damien
Damien

Thank you rebecca
Ditto ur sentiments about the above
trolls continued offensive comments…i constantly cringe when i scroll past its comments….theirs a constructive way to post negative comments

Patrick
Patrick

@GH

I’m thankful for what few posts… acknowledge and with heart… LOVE

Valentin / Nina / Charlotte

it’s with wonderment that so few are not in the moment, caught

this cohesive knit. of Cassadine is stirring

that GH simply has something to focus on because of how complete this family

??? did Anna lose her principles because she shunned this grotesque

this is the haunt that Anna beguiled us with ? dag… bring on Seth Baker to heal all wounds and physically charge her

let bygones be bygone… and that includes the dearly ( always loved ) Duke.

Griffin needs to man up or is it too late

yeah right… he shows up to bring the church to Sonny… and now he remembers his libido and wants to give Claudette some stature

bah hum bug… it was too much … as Anna tells Valentin… ( not verbatim) Griffin is a good guy unlike YOU. REALly ? spiraled to wasteland

theres so much left to the wayside.. kicked to the curb… left abandoned.. that I can’t even recall what’s good

Nina is now leaving her mark… we can forget about her Phyllis.. and fascinate in her arrival.

because James Patrick STuart and Scarlett Herndandez fit.. in to this show

they are the best thing happening

Rose
Rose

I’m not sure how politics, inaugurals and press conferences can affect ratings when they bump the soaps from their regular schedules. But things seemed so predictable in the soap stories…Devon/crash/Hillary/etc, Quinn/Ridge, Liam being Liam, Steffy being Steffy, same old Sonny/Carly makeup, prolonging the Nelle reveal with Sonny always glaring at her. At least we were primed for Dylan/ Steve Burton’s exit, but am still waiting for the evil Valentin, in the true tradition of the Cassadines, and the promise to be the scariest of the family to make an appearance. And to not just settle into Port Charles as if the Greek island never happened.

Jlhodgens
Jlhodgens

I’ve watch yr from day 1 always love it ,but wear is all of the other children? Jacks son Paul’s girl .i would like to see nickie become a strong business woman again ,like having Jill back ,really tired of Hilary story line,please don’t let Sharon and nick back together again it’s so old ,

Yankee fan
Yankee fan

GH had a great demo week in the Jan 3rd ratings report. Biggest gains in over nine months in all the key areas. I didn’t see any news items posted on this site about it.

Y&R is boring as hell under SSM no surprise they are way down.

B&B never does anything but recycle the same garbage so no surprise there either.

GH is getting hit hard by preemptions lately so at least they have excuse but the Franco show needs to be stopped ASAP.

DOOL is the worst soap left on the air and only reason they aren’t down more in the Jan 10th ratings report is cause they had a huge viewer erosion in the Jan 3rd ratings report. NBC is not going to renew a soap that is consistently under 400k in the 18-49 and under 100k in the 18-34. NBC is probably gonna pull the plug anyday since DOOL barely got renewed last January when their numbers were up all over. JG was fired way too soon but RC will write a fitting ending.

Nicholas
Nicholas

sad but realistic picture . the soap that is the worst is the bold and the beautiful with the silly and never ending triangles that have been done and overdone , the same stories over and over again on bold and beautiful have made this soap boring and torture to watch ! young and the restless has been boring and frankly not that interesting , sally’s writing has been so disappointing . General hospital is a bit better , Days is not all that bad . conclusion : Days of our lives is the soap to watch . but i will say that the soaps need to deliver the quality of writing and the way they were put together in the 80’s and 90’s and even the 70’s . you don’t need big location shoots and glossy wardrobes just good quality writing and storytelling with imagination , some vision , some passion , some creativity . the soap writers need to watch classic episodes of the 70’s , 80’s and 90’s to put these soaps back on track so that we the viewers are motivated to tune in .

Robert L
Robert L

with all the inaugural bs last week, these numbers are not surprising. Expect more as Trump doesn’t like to share airtime!

Timmm
Timmm

Neither did Obama!

Addison
Addison

You can’t blame Obama or even Trump for these interruptions. The president has no authority to interrupt regular scheduled programing. This directive comes from the networks.
Since the days of Eisenhower, the “stories” have been interrupted by presidential addresses. I believe that even FDR interrupted the stories on the radio to talk to the American people.

Nanci
Nanci

True, Timmm.
And it’s a turn-off to pop in here and see Trump bashing
from people on a soap board. Guess it doesn’t matter that
this is about soaps…they just gotta get those politucal digs in.

Addison
Addison

Nanci, REALLY?

You see Trump bashing here? Most of us are holding back BIG time considering the shit storm he has unleashed on us.

rebecca1
rebecca1

Yes but ahem, Addison…we can blame Trump for how many times he intends to
“address us.” It’s going to be an ad nauseum all Trump, all the time. Which means I’ll be saving a lot on electricity as the TV shuts downnnnnn…

Addison
Addison

Rebecca, I beyond depressed about the horror which has transpired these last five days. However, there is some good news here which has something to do with the power of the people.
Did you know the number one book being ordered right now is George Orwell’s “1984”? There are many Americans who are re affirming my belief that Americans are essentially good and thoughtful people. The marches which transpired last Saturday and which I participated in, reaffirmed my belief that American people are inherently good. Power to the people, indeed. Let’s keep fighting.

Nanci
Nanci

Addison, you just did it again.
Soap lovers come in all shapes and sizes, etc
And they also come in each political party or
preference by individual candidate. But none
of those things matter when people just want to
come here to read or post about soaps.

There are Trump voters here.
There are Hilary voters here.
There are Dems who voted Trump who want
to give him a chance.
And people who just hope for unity, etc etc etc.

If you and others feel strongly against our President,
why post digs here?

Nanci
Nanci

All soaps are down?? At the same time??
That seems crazy.
I watch only Y and R, and am loving it…
will never stop watching.

Timmm
Timmm

Hey Nanci, “Lets make Soaps Great Again!”

Nanci
Nanci

Lol, Tim. Yes, all things are possible now, finally!

Shay
Shay

@Timmm…..That’s some lofty goal there…although it’s wonderful to realize we won’t be needing the escapism of soaps quite like we did for the past eight years now that there’s (finally) a resolute new sheriff in Americaville who’s bound and determined to fix what ails this country come h#!!, high water and yes, radical rent-a-mobs!

Mary SF
Mary SF

Since I cannot remember what the stories were that week for any of the soaps I think the numbers seem fair. I know in general Jan is never the best month for the soaps, and I think next week with the holiday and inauguration numbers might be even lower. I do know overall I do not mind bad story lines, but dull ones that is something else. Every soap right now is dull beyond belief— I am hoping that is because when soaps were planning their episodes they knew there would be disruptions in mid Jan so they were stretching stories longer than necessary to get pass the hump and that stories will now quickly pick up heading toward Feb sweeps.

Ray
Ray

I can only speak for two of the shows. I LOVE “The Bold and the Beautiful,” but it has turned into the Quinn show. Rena Sofer is amazing, but too many characters are not getting scene time because she is on every day, going from screen time with Eric,now to Ridge. I think Thomas, Caroline, Rick, Bill, Ivy and Katie need a new storyline that does not involve Ridge, Steffy, Brooke and Forrester Creations.

I think the Ridge/Quinn pariring feels fake and forced. Are they playing each other? Are we supposed to believe that as soon as Brooke leaves town, Ridge immediately starts having feelings for Quinn just because he sees a vulnerable side? Quinn and Eric are the best couple on daytime. For months, Quinn had us believe she was truly in love with Eric. So, al it takes is for Ridge to see her in the outdoor shower and rub her sprained ankle for her to start having feelings for him? Ridiculous.

I am very excited about the new hiring decision at “Days of our Lives.” Ron did great things at “OLTL.” I would love to see him trim the cast and get rid of a lot of dead weight. If the storyline is not working with the audience, cut it loose. “Days” has recycled too many storylines and that is the reason the ratings are falling. Stefano being alive (again), the Chloe/Nicole baby storyline seems to have been done too many times, Hope sitting in prison for months is boring.

I wish the writers would look at the success of “This Is Us” an realize that there is audience for real-life, heartfelt drama. I would love to go back to the glory days of family rivalries like Iris/Mac/Rachel, Alexandra/Alan, etc. Give us old school drama and it will bring the audiences back.

rebecca1
rebecca1

My two soaps were OLTL and GH. Then, just GH. Recently, I’d say in the last six months, I started watching B&B and I love it! Being new to the show I’m not fed up with the triangles (though I understand how it’d be repetitive and lackluster if it’s been done over and over again).

I’m probably not alone in this but I knew Quinn and Ridge would have a love/hate relationship from the minute they held hands at the fashion show and Ridge said, “I hate you,” and Quinn answered, “I know.” And, actually, I think they’re hot together! (I love Thorston Kaye from his days on OLTL…man, was he, to repeat myself, hot!) I love Eric, too. He’s an exceptionally good-looking (older) man and is absolutely one of the most endearing soap characters I’ve “met.” So, even I have a conflict! I love Eric and Quinn together…they’re soothing, comfortable, caring, nurturing, supportive…I enjoy their “us” against the world romance.

On the other hand, Ridge and Quinn are…dare I say it??? Ummmm….nah…alluring together. They’re both forces to be reckoned with and would make a steamy couple, not to mention the ripple effects upon Brooke, their son (who is a great actor), Bill, Eric, Steffie…

I’m thinking Ridge and Quinn won’t fall in love; just lust. And there the conflict begins.

As for GH, I have mixed feelings. I’m still watching, I’m very intrigued by Anna and Valentin…by Julian/Alexis/Olivia Jerome and the fallout there. So I think the writers are doing well at changing up the stories and adding intrigue and something different (even if they bring back things from the past). But I still miss the “feel” of GH…I think it’s horrendous that they’re killing off so many GH characters. Almost all the Q’s, Nicolas, Morgan… I would love them to “come back from the dead.” I don’t care how many times it’s been done…these characters are core characters and there’s not enough of them left. I think it’s ridiculous to keep teasing us with Kevin and Laura and then just sprinkle them on every two weeks for a few minutes. Mac and Felicia brought back for an occasion. Same with Robin. In essence, GH is good as a show unto itself…but not if you’re looking for the actual GH!

Let’s hope the ratings keep returning to a profitable number so whatever’s left of this genre keeps kickin’. But writers…you need to do your part. Figure out your budget in such a way that you can afford core, loved characters. Or…lose viewers…and your jobs.

Patrick
Patrick

Nice, read

especially para 2

I don’t know enough about Thorston Kaye… outside of his work @AMC. when he was married to Kendell… dang… I thought he ignited so much passion… that every woman and man sought . I love the idea that this is passion unrequited and if the writing goes their… that it lives

outside of that… why end this unique and camera loves this pairing… so soon? I do not… watch B&B but have always loved…Eric.. as played by the pendulum swing my way I want him… John McCook. look at him… happy … finally a woman , past Susan Flannery’ Stephanie. this is a dynamic pairing that is through the roof loaded with intrigue. because Eric is happy. let this last. Rena Sofer, with those eyes… can be feminine desirable enchanting and sexual. the gamut she brings

this 1/2 hour stuff… that brings that naysay… feel of too many cooks in the kitchen… all scrambling for attention, no matter who it is… incest. who wants that grave stone … hey… I’ve read it here. I sure miss Macy and Thorne… and that Jon Hensley. this trio would turn, for the better.

EMMY PULL : had it not been for @DAYS Billy Flynn… i’d say give it to John McCook

he’s so outside the character machinations… just the real deal

Beth
Beth

Ray, ICAM with every single word of your post. I’m very excited at the hiring of Ron Carlivati on DOOL and hope that he will write stories that interest me. I’ve been ready, willing and able to watch DOOL, but I’ve found little to no reason to watch thanks to Dena Higley’s writing.

I’m a TK fan from way back, but I’m not buying why he would find Quinn to be so “amazing” after her vulnerable moment with Ridge in the hotel room. I’m pretty sure we just saw this story with Ridge and Caroline and the whole lust/forbidden love thing they’re doing. Also, what does this say about his “destiny”, Brooke? I, too, think that Rena Sofer, great actress that she is, shouldn’t be the focal point of B&B nowadays, although I heard someone describe Brad Bell’s writing as being very female-focused in any given year, depending on the actress, whether it’s Heather Tom, or Karla Mosley, or Lindsey Godfrey, or now Rena Sofer. It’s just her turn on the storyline wheel.

I also wish that soaps would write more heartfelt, honest storylines, or more original storylines, like we see in This is Us. Not sure they want to anymore, but I’ve been enjoying Y&R since Sally Sussman Morina returned, so there is hope.

Iakovos
Iakovos

I am hoping this ratings turn is just a seasonal slump because I am liking the new and improved Y&R very much! Would love to see a consistent climb for the drama as the writing, characters, and production values continue to improve.

Kevin C
Kevin C

I am also enjoying Y&R since Sally and Kay have return…Some people are saying it’s boring but I find that it’s good character writing. Remember it’s just been a little over a month and give Sally and Kay a chance…

Kevin C
Kevin C

But again, we cannot make everyone happy.

clh
clh

The shows are sooo dark with little romance and lightness, too much preaching, too many stories around product placement, and constant preemption.

And what I believe to be the number one reason soap fans are dwindling: Soap Opera magazines.

In my day we were on the edge of our seats when an episode ended. And a Friday cliffhanger, forget about it, could barely wait to see what was going to happen.

With the introduction of these magazines there is no more reason to tune in everyday and there’s no more surprises! You already know weeks in advance what’s going to happen so when it does there is no shock or suspense value, it’s kind of a let down.

Remember when you didn’t actually know whether a character was going to pull through or not? Who was just going to “appear” on the show? Who was going to fall in or out of love? When we didn’t know via magazines and social media weeks in advance, the pay off and the surprise element kept people tuning in.

Boop
Boop

I buy soap mag ; however, to be honest , I forget that surprises are coming. For example, I read that Tonya Walker was coming to General Hospital ; yet, when I heard them talking about the boss is a woman, I totally forgot that the woman boss was Tonya. I was telling my friends ,”I wonder who that woman is!”

su0000
su0000

Perhaps the Spoilers are spoiling the soaps..
Ironic, yes ……………………….lol

Why watch if you know who and what will happen..
Or– read spoilers and pick a certain day to watch, that might interest a fan ..
We know so&so won’t die because we know the actor is not leaving the soap.
Actually, we are told most everything before it happened .

That is one reason I miss RC ..
He actually delivered shockers and surprises.
He held scripts close to the vest, didn’t let stuff out to spoil it.
He gave WOW moments and intriguing mysteries ..
((he will Days well))

Timmm
Timmm

GH has not been too bad. Valentin, Nina, Anna and that sweet sweet little girl Charlotte are dynamic. Also, I like Julian, Alexis and Liv. Once Olivia and Ava square off, it should be grand! Duke will probably turn up alive.

Y&R is horrible! I will give Sally some time but not all we see now is a clean up from Pratt. Here is my issues right now with this soap:

1: When Brass and Sassy were thrown out, why not set up shop in the basement of the Chancelor Mansion? There is a ton of space there! Ashley did say she would like her lab back!

2: So all the sudden Reed is a problem? We have never heard Victoria ever mention talking to JT about him being a problem. Victoria is overbearing. It makes her look stupid. Billy can help her. He does need to let her know what he is sharing with Reed. I dont care for the actor who plays Reed.

3: Dylan should have left after Sharon kept Sully’s secret from him. To have him go undercover is a horrible idea! Dylan cheated on Sharon. Paul and Christine look like goofs! They constantly remind us that this is Dylan’s FIRST undercover job and that Paul doesnt want anything to happen to his son! Hey guys, how about hiring a veteran detective? Why not let Dylan go undercover at a mall or a cheating spouse to get his feet wet? AND, the chief’s office would NEVER be left unlocked for ANYONE to roam in and go through the desk! Sharon made that call when she knew Dylan was undercover and it would put him in harms way! DUMB!

4: GLORIA! Great actress but needs to tone it down a bit. To cartoonish! And Jack would NEVER rub shoulders with that evil witch!

5: Devon can move on and Neil advises him to stay put! Where is Tucker? Devon can walk away free from this evil bitch and now he is dragging his feet! I did love Devon and Jill’s talk the other day. This character needs to be cut to recurring and that gossip show needs canceled ASAP. Come on Sally, lets get a move on!

Yankee fan
Yankee fan

Makes me wanna puke.

ABC is about to bust in on GH a second time this week.

Trump is going live at 2:30 on the east.

Tomas Torquemada
Tomas Torquemada

Agree. Wanna know why leadership was down? Constant presumptions. Or they would roll the episode to a companion local station and the DVR wouldn’t record it because it moved.

KansasGuest
KansasGuest

Sometimes the episode is still up on ABC.com or Hulu the same day if it’s pre-empted in just one time zone. That won’t change live Nielsen ratings. But, Hulu and ABC’s website records all views of an episode. So, the network will still know if people are watching.

robert
robert

terrible numbers for the soaps and i’m not surprised,the creative isn’t their. Y&R continues to lose the most viewers,Sally is probably boring a lot of people. i had high hopes for Y&R,but so far the new writing has been a disappointment. everything is moving very slow,sub-par stories,no compelling stories. the numbers could be even worse next week with the inauguration pre-emptions. looking forward to seeing if Ron can make DAYS better

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DAYS Promo: What’s Going To Happen At Jarlena’s Wedding Anniversary Shindig?

Coming up next week on Days of our Lives, prepare for drama, drama, and more drama! From the looks of the latest promo for the NBC soap opera, the action takes place at Marlena (Deidre Hall) and John’s (Drake Hogestyn) surprise one-year wedding anniversary soirée, where things could take a deadly turn!

But with the Kristen (Stacy Haiduk) masquerading as “Nicole” plot reaching new heights, Anna DiMera (Leann Hunley) and Tony DiMera (Thaao Penghlis) back in Salem, and the promo telling viewers “For one guest, the party, is over” followed by Sonny (Freddie Smith) yelling, “She’s got a gun!” and Brady’s (Eric Martsolf) ending line, “Oh, my God!” there is plenty to conjecture.

Also seen in the teaser is Kate (Lauren Koslow) trying to rip off the face of Susan Banks (Stacy Haiduk), and Stefan (Brandon Barash) and Gabi (Camila Banus) getting hot and heavy and Eric (Greg Vaughan) yelling, “No!”

So, check out the promo below and then let us know via the comment section below, what you think is about to go down at Jarlena’s party, where last August at their nuptials … things did not go off without a hitch, either!

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DAYS Stacy Haiduk and Eric Martsolf Talk Kristen & Brady’s Twisted Relationship : The Mask, The Deception, The Sex

Last week on Days of our Lives, Kristen (Stacy Haiduk) was able to get the man she craves in between the sheets.  So, just how did that happen when Brady Black (Eric Martsolf) had no idea she was alive?  Well … he still doesn’t, really.  You see, Kristen returned to Salem disguised as another ex flame of Brady’s, Nicole Walker (who everyone believed died in the warehouse explosion).  And Kristen has been parading around town donning an incredible likeness of Nicole’s face – via a prosthetic mask – and some other tricks to sound and look just like her!

Kristen’s goal is to infiltrate Salem, remind Brady of the love and passion they shared, take over DiMera Enterprises, and who knows what else!  And everyone who stands in her way, better watch out as we have seen! We are speaking to you (the late) Ted, and (once kidnapped) Kate, et al.

Fans of the NBC daytime drama series have followed the tortured relationship between Kristen and Brady for years and through many plots; Kristen was first played and brought to life by Eileen Davidson, and for well over a year now by Stacy Haiduk.  Not only has Haiduk reprised the role of a frustrated, vengeful Kristen, she is also playing at times multiple roles: the wacky and often misunderstood, Susan Banks, Kristen playing Susan, or Kristen pretending to be Sister Mary Moira.

As for Daytime Emmy winner, Eric Martsolf, this latest story arc puts him front and center as viewers watch to see if what Brady senses, and the clues, and the feelings he is having, bring him to the conclusion that he has been duped by Kristen, and that her horrendous scheme – pretending to be Nicole (Arianne Zucker), and dumping Nicole’s longtime love Eric (Greg Vaughan) to be with him have a result that is unexpected or catastrophic!

Michael Fairman TV sat down with Stacy and Eric for this conversation about: all the plot twists, and playing the drama and the humor of the situations they find themselves in as actors in a wild story that only head writer Ron Carlivati could pen and keep the audience on the edge of their seats in the process. Check out this oh-so-fun, direct, and enlightening chat with two of DAYS most shining stars.

Photo: JPI

Eric, what has it been like working in this part of your storyline; where there’s the character of Kristen in its many forms: Arianne Zucker playing “Nicole” (but it’s really Kristen), Kristen as Susan, and the real Kristen, etc?

ERIC:  It’s been a nightmare Michael.  (Laughs)  I don’t know who I’m sleeping with anymore.  I’m at the point where I go home at night, and I just tug on my wife’s cheek just to make sure that she is not my ex-girlfriend from high school.

When you first heard of this storyline, and that it was going to facilitate how Arianne was going to come back to the show… and that it was supposed to be Kristen in a Nicole Walker prosthetic mask with a voice alternator, what went through your mind?

ERIC:  I think in the back of Ron’s Carlivati’s (head writer, DAYS) mind, he was thinking to himself, “This dude started his soap career on Passions, he’s okay with this kind of thing,” and honestly, nothing surprises me anymore.  When you’re thrown into that supernatural, crazy reality, doesn’t-live-here sort of atmosphere for you first soap gig, you don’t sweat a mask and a voice modulator.  That’s just par for the course.  My biggest problem was the body thing … that Brady is not able to distinguish one body from the other, because I would as Eric.  My God, I know every inch of my wife’s body.  So, it’s difficult to get my head around that, but at the same time, I’m going with the whole “love is blind” thing here. (Laughs)

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(Laughs) I was going just going to say that Brady would absolutely know Kristen’s body from how passionate their relationship has been in the past, as well, he would Nicole’s body from his relationship with her.

ERIC:  Since Kristen did finally just succeed – let’s use the word in “seducing” him, and using her wonderful feminine wiles as only Kristen has to get Brady in to bed, there was also another twist.  What plays after that is that he notices the tattoo that’s been removed, and she plays it off as scarring from the fire.  What’s going through his mind as he is making love to Nicole is a “Kristen train”.  He can’t get Kristen out of his mind, and the guilt that he feels about that is horrendous.

Right! Brady is thinking: “Why am I feeling this when I am supposed to be with Nicole!?”

ERIC:  Right!  Brady has been waiting for a relationship for God knows how many years now – at least a successful one.  He is so eager to have this work, even though he has been concerned about how Eric (Greg Vaughan) would feel about this.  In Brady’s mind, Eric is done with Nicole.  He’s good.  He loves Sarah (Linsey Godfrey).  This is fair game.  Brady and Nicole have always been close … they’ve been close before … so, for him, it’s, why not give it a fair try?   However, he finds himself now thinking about another woman the whole time.  That’s rough.

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Do you think in the back of his mind, that this whole time, he possibly knew that “Nicole” was Kristen?

ERIC:  Well, you just have to wait.  There will be a reveal eventually, obviously, but until then, let the games play on.

So, once Brady and “Nicole” have sex, he keeps thinking about Kristen?

ERIC:  Constantly!  She just plagues his mind.  I think he’s realizing that his affection for Kristen is anything but dead and is very alive, and I think this is Kristen’s master plan from the very beginning.  She knows that she pervades his soul, and once she does reveal herself, I would guess he would probably be surprised, maybe a little angry, but in the end … you can’t deny what your heart and your body wants, right?

One of my favorite recent scenes had Brady half-naked and Kristen as Susan getting into his room, because she was looking for the MIA Nicole mask she so desperately needed.  She finds herself gawking and lusting after Brady under her disguise, and he tries to remove himself from the situation and says, “Susan, I’m going to get in the shower…”

ERIC:  Yeah! And, “It’s not going to happen, baby.”

What was that like doing that scene?

STACY:  I loved it!  I thought Eric was brilliant in it.  I watched it, and I thought, “Oh, my God!”  (Laughs) It is one of my all-time favorite scenes.

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ERIC:  Kristen is a tiger.

STACY:  She is a tiger.  She’s got a goal, and she is going to go after that.  She has obstacles that are going to come in-between her goal, but she will go after whatever she wants.

When Stacy comes in to Brady’s room as Susan, were you not laughing?

ERIC: No!  I thought she was hot. (Laughs)

STACY:  He did … he loved it.  You liked me, didn’t you baby? (Laughs)

ERIC:  I don’t think anybody can deny that Stacy Haiduk’s portrayal of Susan Banks is ridiculously good.  Everything from her delivery … to her facial expressions.  I think it is amazing.  I mean, it is corny, and it is fun, and soaps need characters like that once in a while to lighten the load of the heavy dialogue and the drama.  It’s a welcomed addition.  So, I love playing scenes with Susan.

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Eric, you always have been able play the straight-man so well in comedic scenes with impeccable timing,

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STACY:  You’re brilliant, Eric.

ERIC:  You guys are being very nice to me.

STACY:  You are.  I remember on the day how much fun we had, but then, seeing it back and the crap that I was giving you, and just the stuff you were giving back was so beautiful, and innocent, and so alive.  It was so funny.

Does Kristen think that now that she finally got Brady into bed that she won … that she got what she wanted … even if she had to don a “Nicole” mask to do it?

STACY:  Well, no, because she still can’t be really Kristen.  I think she is grateful that she gets to be with him.  That’s one of her biggest goals: to be with Brady and she wants to have him fall back in love with her again.  But for her, now it’s all about, “How do I reveal myself so that he doesn’t get scared away?”  That’s the toughest part for her.  Kristen’s love is so deep that it goes beyond this mask.  So, how is it going to be when he sees her?   Is he going to freak out?  What’s going to happen?

ERIC:  Did you think Kristen would be a little pissed off and think, “Oh my God.  He did go for Nicole?”

STACY:  Yes!  I do, because she’s like, “Finally, I got him!  But wait a minute … did I get him because I was Nicole … or because I was Kristen?”  As Kristen, she always believes there is something deeper between them and a deep connection.  That remains a driving force to her.

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ERIC:  That’s why I love these characters so much, because of you and the history of Kristen with Brady.  She’s always wanted him as much as he has wanted her.  She’s always wanted to be loved.

STACY:  Yes … and very much so.

ERIC:  Kristen had always wanted to be a part of the DiMera Empire, just as Brady has always wanted to be a part of the Kiriakis Empire, and they’ve always wanted love.  They’ve never had it.  They believe in the back of their minds that anything is attainable.  So, I can see why Kristen would just forgo the Nicole disguise and just go, “He wants me.”

STACY:  Kristen wants to believe that Brady knows it.  She says to herself, “He knows it’s me inside and behind the mask.  When he finds out, he will fall back in love with me.”

Now that she actually had sex with Brady, wouldn’t that make Kristen even more insatiable to be with him? Like, “I’ve got to have him!?”

STACY:  The fear is still .. what happens she takes this mask off?  She always says, “I’ll reveal myself, but I have to do it slowly when it is the right time.”  I think there is that built up frustration now for her, absolutely!

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Arianne Zucker really has Stacy’s mannerisms down as Kristen.  It really comes into in scenes where “Nicole” goes off on someone or loses her temper.  Eric, you have worked with Arianne for years on this show.  What do you think about her performances in this storyline?

ERIC:  I have worked with Ari over the years, and I have enjoyed it a lot.  Ari did do her homework.  She did study Stacy’s tape, and she watched her mannerisms, and she took it very seriously.  I know that because she is a hard worker, as much as a goofball as she is, she does work hard, and she wanted it to be good.  I think my favorite parts were the Kristen meltdowns.  You have to understand though; Stacy and Ari get along very well!  They’re kind of two peas in a pod.  So, it wasn’t a big stretch for her to take on how Stacy would play those types of scenes.  They’re both animated, they’re both wild people by nature, and so, it was a good fit.  It was a smart idea from the writers.

STACY:  It was a good fit!

ERIC:  I’ve been out with the two of them, and it’s hard to tell the two of them apart. (Laughs)

STACY:  We are just like two cuddly bunnies.

ERIC:  They’re like flirting with each other, and hugging each other.  You find yourself thinking, “Are they going to start ordering the same food at the same time?  This is getting weird. (Laughs)

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In the recent scene that aired; where Kristen as “Nicole” turns off the light while having sex with Brady, is she worried her plan will now go awry?

STACY:  Yes.  I think she is worried about her body because it is burned.  You know, how they take a tattoo off, and it’s as painful as can be.  Not that I’ve had that done personally.  I like my tats, but I hear it is painful.  So, in the storyline, the burn is that pain that she has and the tattoo. There’s a part of her that thinks,  she has to cover it up, and turn the lights down low.

ERIC:  “Nicole” is sleeping, and Brady is rubbing his hands over her shoulder and touching her body, and as he goes over the burn marks.  He sees a flash of the tattoo!  That is a pivotal moment when he starts to put some pieces together.   He thinks, “Woah! That’s exactly where that tattoo was.”  It’s a slow little rollercoaster ride.

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In the past, Kristen then played by Eileen Davidson, drugged and raped Father Eric.  Stacy, did you ever see that story arc?  Literally the sex scene is playing on the screen at Kristen’s wedding to Brady and then all hell breaks loose.  This to say Kristen is notorious for the ways and the lengths she goes to get her men into bed.

STACY:  Yes! I saw her Eileen do those scenes.

ERIC:  You also saw how close Kristen and Brady were to their dream, to their happiness, their goal, which was they were going to marry each other.  Brady is looking upon his loved ones in this town and thinking, “I know what you all think of her, but I’m going to show you our love on this screen, and once you see the connection that we have here as a couple, you all are going to be convinced that we belong together as well.  This is the happiest day of my life,” and the screen comes up and it’s his brother banging Kristen instead.

Marlena (Deidre Hall) played the wrong DVD!

STACY:  It was so good.  See, I try to find as much info as I can on the character’s past, because all of the time I’m trying to find where these characters have been in their dark and twisted past.

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ERIC:  You’re putting your own stamp on Kristen.  You got a direct call from DAYS casting department, didn’t you … when they were recasting the role?

STACY:  Yes.  You have to understand, I had two really separate characters to play when I was on Y&R.  One was a doctor, and one was this crazy passionate, wild, little minx.

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ERIC:  I will say to find the wild and the beauty in one package is not easy in any town, yet alone Los Angeles.  I’m glad they called you, because you have that.  You have that villainous nature, but you also are able to show a vulnerable side to Kristen that is going to be a lot of fun and interesting to see.

Stacy is one of those people that will leap off of the screen at you and you will remember her.  She is one actress that will have fans talking about their work, like when you played crazy Patty Williams on Y&R.  The audience was on the edge of their seats going, “Oh, my God!  What is Patty going to do next?”

STACY:  I never knew what she was going to do!

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Eric, has Stacy come to you at any point where she been overwhelmed by the task at hand; playing Susan while playing Kristen, etc, and the two of you have a moment where you work through some of the challenges of complex scenes  … and ones where she is playing multiple characters?

ERIC:  We’ve had many moments  to speak of.

STACY:  I always come into Eric’s room, and am like, “I’m scared!”

ERIC:  It’s funny you mention it.  We have had some very emotional scenes, and Stacy – who cares so damn much about this job and portraying this character correctly – that she gets a little overwhelmed, and the material that they give her is overwhelming for any anybody on any level.  I have looked at her in the eyes, and said, “You’ve got this gig.  You are this character.  You are knocking it out of the park.  Just do it.  Just be you.”   I can’t wait for people to see some of the stuff we have shot recently and have been doing.

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Stacy, do you think Kristen can be redeemed? Many characters on daytime … and on DAYS … have done horrible things and later turned over a new leaf.

STACY:  The thing is that villains are bad and all that other crap, but they’ve got a lot of stuff going on inside and insecurities, and they’ve got a heart.  I’m sorry, the villain with a heart of gold, can be very  true.  I never see villains (and I play them a lot) as bad.  You have to find where it comes from … how far does this go … where did that little seed change … and what made them go into the dark, but also, where is the good?  You want to bring the good to it, too.

ERIC:  Let’s face it!  Star Wars is all about Darth Vader and how he became that because it’s intriguing.

Because of the pace in which DAYS tapes its episodes; do the two of you find time to run lines together before you go hit the set?

ERIC:  We are running out of time to run lines.  It’s pretty wild.  Funnily enough, I was recently filming a movie and I was so underwhelmed at the pace of everything.  I’ve gotten so accustomed to moving at this militant style, that as hard as it is, it is preferable to me now.  I almost like it because you don’t have time to overthink what you are going to do, and you end up getting more visceral and natural reactions to the material.  You can overthink a scene, and you can come to a wrong performance that way.  When you burn your fingers on a hot stove, that’s the most natural reaction you are going to get.  You can’t have ten minutes to think about how you are going to scream about that pain.

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But, would you like the pace of shooting the show to be a bit slower?

STACY:  I would like to, but I do think sometimes just jumping in, and going and seeing what happens is great.  I love that.  I do appreciate that.

ERIC:  It’s scary.

STACY:  It is scary.  I would love if we would get to do a rehearsal and then two takes just to see, and then they can mix  together what happens.  Sometimes I am hard on myself as an actress.  I’ve always been.  It’s that jumping in when you only get to do one take.  You have to just give it everything you’ve got.

ERIC:  You can have a second take.  Want me to give you a little secret?  All you have to do is screw up your last line.

STACY:  I can’t do that.   I don’t even need it to be perfect because nothing is perfect.  It doesn’t matter what I’ve done if I sometimes don’t feel it.  I need to feel it when I’m on that set.  I need to feel something because when I shut down, I close myself off.  It’s like an athlete who has just got to  train as hard as they can to reach their goal.

ERIC:  You’re an Olympic swimmer!

STACY:  You’ve got to do it as hard as you can.  You practice, and you practice, and you practice, and you practice, so that when you come to that day, you do the best you can, but sometimes you are disappointed because you didn’t get that one last thing you had hoped for.

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How do you view what happened to Eric with Kristen, who disguised as Nicole, tricked Brady into bed with her?  Some fans commented that that they thought it was akin to a rape.

ERIC:  No, I would disagree with that theory.  I believe there is a high degree of deception in this, but there is a willingness on behalf of Brady.  He’s not drugged.  He’s not being forced to do anything.  Deception, yes.  Rape, no.

Stacy, what do you think?

STACY:  Total deception.  There is no rape.  There is absolutely no rape.  These are willing participants; he just doesn’t know exactly who he is dealing with.

ERIC:  I appreciate the context of how somebody could construe that, and the seriousness of the matter.  I don’t think it really has a place in this particular storyline.

Do you guys think that Brady and Kristen are each other’s star-crossed lovers in a weird, twisted, bizarre way?

ERIC:  I don’t know.  I think they’re magnetism can’t be denied.  I think the hurdles that they’ve jumped through are astronomical.  Will they end up together in the end?  Who knows!  Will there ever be an end?  Who knows!  It’s definitely been one of, if not the most, in-depth relationships Brady has ever had.

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And intense!

ERIC:  Yeah.  They’ve just gone through so much to be together, and when you do that, anybody who is married knows that, that’s where the good stuff is; the wars that you win together and the battles that you go through.  When you come out of the war, and you’re still together, that’s the bond.  That’s what lasts.

What would Kristen do if she couldn’t have Brady in the end?  Would she find a new obsession?  What if she could not nab her man?

STACY:  Wow!  Hmmm. (Laughs)  She’s going to get her man.  She wants her man.  She wouldn’t settle.  She’d keep fighting.  I would say to her, “Kristen, keep fighting the good fight.”

So, do you think Kristen will reveal herself to Brady sooner than later? Will Brady figure out what Kristen has been doing to get to him?  Will Brady turn Kristen away if he knew she was alive and back in action  … or would he fall back into her arms? Share your theories via the comment section below.

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Daytime Emmys To Merge Younger Actor & Actress Category Into One As Gender-Inclusive Categories Are On The Rise

The upcoming 47th annual Daytime Emmys are already making some changes to key categories and specifically this one that affects daytime drama performers.  Word from Variety is that NATAS (National Academy of Television Arts and Sciences) is going to announce that they are combining the Younger Actor and Actress categories into one gender-neutral category

Not only will the Younger performer category be gender-inclusive, but network soap performances will be combined with digital drama series performances for the category.  Previously, for this past Daytime Emmys, NATAS had changed the Guest Performer in a Drama Series to be gender-inclusive.

This category was initially created in 1985 when it was called the Outstanding Ingenue and then from there tweaked into Outstanding Juvenile Female and Male, and more recently that morphed into the Younger Actor and Actress categories.

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Former GH star Hayley Erin (Ex-Kiki) and former DAYS star, Kyle Pettis (Ex-Theo) will now be the last female and male to win the two separate categories with this new move for 2020.

Fans of film and TV have noticed that on several award shows on MTV: their Movie and TV Awards and their VMA’s, there are several gender-inclusive categories, as well as the Television Critics Association Awards who for instance doles out Outstanding Individual Achievement in Drama in comedy.

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So, what do you think of the change; that there will now be one Younger performer category at the Daytime Emmys? Comment below.

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