The coronavirus pandemic has put to the test many content creators on just how they would keep their projects moving forward in ways they never dreamed of. However, out of that situation has come some of the most compelling, unique series, specials, and features currently streaming for viewers. One of which is Riley’s Unforgettable School Project, brought to you by the team from the six-time Daytime Emmy Award-winning series, After Forever.
Former Days of our Lives star, Kevin Spirtas (Ex-Craig Wesley) has starred in and created the first two seasons of what has become the most honored Emmy-awarded LGBTQ-themed drama series on any platform. Along with his ‘After Forever’ writing/producing partner, the late Michael Slade (DAYS, OLTL, Passions, Another World), the two also conceptualized and delivered this latest documentary-style offering now on Amazon Prime Video.
What makes Riley’s Unforgettable School Project so noteworthy is not just how they were able to execute the series based on fictional 11-year-old Riley’s virtual school project and utilize its cast, which includes: Spirtas, Cady Huffman, Jamison Stern, Lenny Wolpe, Erin Cherry, Anita Gillette, Christopher J. Hanke, and Finn Douglas, but that it was made while Slade was succumbing to his battle with cancer, and that this special marks the final script from this talented writer.
Michael Fairman TV spoke with Spirtas about making the special during Covid-19, how the death of Michael Slade has made a lasting impact on his life, what After Forever has personally meant to him, and how an official third season is still in the works, and … if he would consider a return to Salem and Days of our Lives, should they come a-calling. Here’s what Kevin had to say about it all.

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I think the entire story of this digital special has become even more meaningful with Michael Slade’s passing. What was the genesis of the concept? You wanted to continue the telling of the story of After Forever … but we are all in the middle of a pandemic?
KEVIN: Yes and… when we filmed season 2, we had the scripts for season 3 already completed. It was our hope and desire to film them at the same time, back-to-back, so that we would have had all of our cast and crew together, and we could have gotten through it because we’ve always imagined this story being told in a trilogy so to speak – a beginning, middle, and end to Brian (Spirtas) and Jason, (Mitchell Anderson) and Brian’s healing or his steps towards healing through grief. Schedules turned out that they couldn’t really work out for us to hold all the people and hold all of the sets for that amount of time. So, we thought, “We’ve got the scripts for season 3 ready. We’ll come back to it in the following year,” and that was always the intention, and then the pandemic hit. So, it was shut down immediately that we weren’t going to do anything, but we wanted to stay current, and instead of going back in and telling the third installment of After Forever as a Covid-19 story as well, Michael and I sat down and looked at a way of staying relevant and current with a story within COVID, and there was born the idea to do this documentary style story/special about the characters of After Forever told through the lens of the character of Riley, the 11-year-old boy, who is now being homeschooled during the pandemic. He gets an assignment to do a project about the most unforgettable person he has ever met, and he, of course, chooses his best friend, the late Jason Adams, and he enlists all of Jason’s friends and family to join in. Michael actually said, “What if we tell a story about Riley being homeschooled?” And, not only is Riley a technical genius at 11-years-old in the story, but Finn Douglas, who plays Riley, is a technical genius.
And didn’t Finn perform and write the song “Forever There” contained within the special?
KEVIN. Yes. He is this incredible musician. Michael thought, “What would it be like if we asked to have the character of Finn sing a song for Jason?” I said, “Well, what kind of song would we have him sing?” Finn could play anything, I’m sure, because he’s self-taught, he plays by ear – guitar, piano, and drums. Michael said, “What if we ask him to see if he could write a song?” and when we heard this song, we all called each other and we all got on Zoom and went, “Can you believe this song? Can you believe this came out of this 11-year-old?” It’s pretty incredible. Michael did a gorgeous job of weaving the stories in and out and how they just sort of dove-tailed into each other, and then it was framed by Riley opening the project and ending the project. During the Zoom reading we wanted to hear the song out loud. We said to Finn, “Would you want to sing the song?” We all just watched everybody on that Zoom call just fall apart. It was just so beautiful. He’s an amazing talent.
Where is your character within this?
KEVIN: I still stand in the center of the story of Jason because my character, Brian, was married to Jason, and it sort of connects us all, and through Riley’s understanding of how we all connect to Jason, is how we are all sort of spread out throughout the story. Michael jokingly said, “You know, you’re not going to be the star of this special,” and I said, “I don’t think it’s about being the star. It’s really about the storytelling.” The beauty of Riley’s Unforgettable School Project is that we get to see moments of each person’s relationship with Jason, which Riley sets out to say, “Answer these three questions: What did you like most about Jason? What did you like least about Jason? And what’s your favorite memory?” Those three things, cut back and forth is where we all kind of fit in. Nobody has more of a story than the next person, and it’s all telling honest portrayals of how they’re dealing with their loss of their good friend, or their child, or partner.

It’s a very inventive idea during Covid-19 to continue it in a way where you weren’t having to go shoot a full season of episodes.
KEVIN: Well, we couldn’t. I have to say, Allison Vanore, who not only produced this special, but she also stepped up saying, “I’d love to direct this,” and I said, “Yes, please!” She knows the characters. She understands the story because she’s been a part of it for the last two seasons. Allison also has this extraordinary amount of knowledge and expertise with the camera and what was needed for a remote shoot, and to also be able to organize filming 13 people in 2 different countries and 5 different cities… that’s just the technical side of it, but having that in our back pocket, knowing that it was a remote shoot, we had to send the camera, the computer, the ring light, and the microphone to each person’s house. We had to location scout over Zoom. We had to do wardrobe over Zoom. It was all this big puzzle putting it together, and once you look at that board of storytelling and how we were going to do it, it kind of fell into place. I feel blessed that a) we still had Michael with us, at that point, and b) Allison had the know-how to do this. We all feel that at least this pandemic didn’t keep us from doing what we love.

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In terms of the contribution of Michael Slade in this special, was it the construction of the story, and how was he able to work and write this during his illness?
KEVIN: Michael’s contribution to the special was no less than the contribution to season 1 and season 2, and the future of season 3, because the scripts are written. We did everything on Zoom, and we worked around his schedule of treatment. We scheduled 2 people per day, and we spread them out over two weeks. He was very present, and when there would be a day where he would say, “I’m going to be an hour late, let’s just push that call time,” I would ask, “Is this too much right now? We can shelve it; we can stop it.” He’d then say, “Absolutely not, otherwise cancer will win.” He was determined to stay focused and to stay active because it took his mind off of what was happening to him.

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It would be lovely moment if you both were to win a Daytime Emmy for this project.
KEVIN: It’s our last collaboration together as a team, as I said, season 3 has been scripted, and it is on the calendar to get made. We are just waiting for the COVID restrictions to lift a little bit and everyone to get vaccinated. Michael was really hit hard with cancer – to stay healthy was so challenging for him. Sadly, he didn’t make it to see the final edit of the special, and he died four days before we launched, but he had seen the cuts before that and was very approving of it, and had made some decisions, and offered some suggestions, and if God gives him an Emmy for this, it’s not because he died. It’s because it’s great work. It just happens to be that the work that was involved in this particular special was very tricky. It brought up everything, like life itself to have to deal with. Here we are dealing with the loss of a colleague, the loss of a friend, someone’s brother, someone’s son, this is life imitating art, imitating art imitating life. I can’t tell you the darkness that I went through just experiencing the need to stay focused on getting everything edited, and everything ready, and everything aligned for a release of this project that we had put into motion. On top of it, our editor lost his mother just before Michael passed, and Allison’s mom was sick at the time, as well. It took a lot of heavy deep breaths with Michael’s death, and the pandemic, and the loss has, for me, on a personal level, sent me back to really questioning my spiritual muscle and to help remind me that we have to come out of this better than we went into this. I had many dark nights of the soul this last year, and December was probably the darkest. I feel like I’m just kind of coming out of it now with the spring revealing itself.

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It must have been extraordinarily difficult for you to also go to New York during a pandemic and also knowing Michael did not have much time left.
KEVIN: I will say this: I am grateful that I was able to stay in touch with my heart and my instinct and go out to New York to let that be my remote location. Yes, maybe there was some risk involved. I wore my mask; I was Covid-19 negative, and I was determined to be fine. Once I got to New York, I would visit him very protectively with our masks and our gloves, and I’d sit across the room, and then I’d go back to the house I was at. It was a gift that I was able to see him at that time. We had some good talks then about how he was feeling, and I think he was still being optimistic, and then once we got the project in the can there was maybe this psychic letting go. That’s when everything really started to reveal itself as this could be the end. I did go back to see him when he was in hospice. I think I was there the last two days that he really was able to really stay coherent. He would close his eyes and be at peace and quiet for a minute, and he would finish a conversation and sort of close his eyes, not to sleep and not to go away, but I remember watching him going, “Look how peaceful he is,” and then he’d open his eyes and he’d remember that he is in this body that has been given a time limit of life, and he’s on his way out. I’d watch the fear go back in his eyes. At one point, he did say, “I’m so scared,” and I just held his hand, and I said, “I’m scared too. Let’s be scared through this together.” I don’t know how to navigate grief like that. We are all going to be in a position at some point where we are going to be on the other side of the hand holding. The wonderful thing is that we were able to have honest communication about our feelings. I thanked him for everything that he has done for me and how he believed in my talent and creativity and our partnership. I will always take that with me. I waved my finger at him, and I said, “Listen. Now, we wrote a series about a man talking to his deceased husband. You’d better talk to me!” So, we laughed about that.

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You’ve done a lot of things in your career from Broadway to television, and of course, daytime fans know you best as Dr. Craig Wesley on DAYS. How does the entire After Forever project stack up to you within all that you have done?
KEVIN: Former DAYS casting director Fran Bascom, sought me out and offered me this 2-day role on Days of Our Lives, and those 2 days turned into 8 years, and unbeknownst to me at the time, the final 3 months of that contract of those 8 years, Michael Slade was brought in to write. We didn’t cross paths at that point, but years later, when we did cross paths in New York, and then After Forever was born, that was that universal crossing point. I am most proud of the fact that we were able create something fresh, and real, and personal to ourselves that we didn’t have to cater to any “powers that be” that had their vision and their tinkering, that they thought that it could be better in this way or that way. Then for After Forever to gain such recognition, within the film festivals, and the Emmys, and then, just after Michael died, we won the GLAAD award for Special Recognition this year. We don’t even fit into one of their categories! They found a way to acknowledge this project. If another Emmy happens again, that might be another one to put up on the shelf for After Forever that would be beautiful, and I couldn’t have done it without Michael.
For the Daytime Emmys this year, what category have you entered Riley’s Unforgettable School Project?
KEVIN: We are not a series this year, we are a daytime fiction special, and the “Daytime Fiction Special” category is a special class. It’s anything that’s digital in the construct of less than 40 minutes. NATAS (National Academy of Television Arts and Sciences) is being bombarded with so much content, they’re trying to find ways to put categories together.

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So, now, when we last saw Days of Lives’ Dr. Craig Wesley, where was he? (Laughs)
KEVIN: (Laughs) He was in a flash from the past or something in the DOOL app’s Last Blast Reunion series. I had a fun time working with Patrika Darbo (Nancy) and Nadia Bjorlin (Chloe), once again.
So, if they were to want Craig to come back to DAYS, would you be all for it?
KEVIN: Hell yes!

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Now, what story would you want to be told involving Craig?
KEVIN: When Craig was first on the canvas in Salem, there was a lot of mustache twirling and a lot of hand wringing. He was always plotting; most of the time with Nancy. It was kind of this high drama, evil villain storyline being told, but when the writers created an opportunity for us to be on after those first three months by bringing on Chloe without a father, there was something real about it. It may have been told under the construct of soap opera storytelling, but there was a reality-based story about, “You have a daughter, and we are just now finding out about it?” Then, finding a cure to her health was another realistic story, and finding out that Craig was her real father. Anything that’s reality based is what I’m getting to. I would welcome any job that brings me back and gives me an opportunity to dive into something real.

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Would you welcome the opportunity to play a gay character on daytime; in a medium where there are very few represented in storylines?
KEVIN: I’d have no problem with that. Do you know anybody who is starting that? Let’s do it! (Laughs) First of all, there’s nothing to hide anymore. There’s nothing to pretend you’re not anymore. I would think that bringing in a storyline that deals with anything outside the norm that we are used to seeing would be interesting. How many times can you retell a story? How many times can you set the same story up with another couple? So, why not be diverse and have a stylized story being told through the lens of a gay person.

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In closing, so many go through life without acknowledging people who had an impact them. We don’t give pats on the back, often enough, and especially in Hollywood, where people can be very self-involved. You have already paid tribute to Michael Slade in our discussion, but what gift from him is your personal takeaway?
KEVIN: The gift that Michael really gave to me is to remember to be kind to myself and to others, and to acknowledge and salute the person who is in front of us, because we don’t know when we will have, or if we will have, another moment to do that.
Now below, check out the trailer for Riley’s Unforgettable School Project. Then let us know, what do you think of its concept? Kevin’s thoughts on the passing of his collaborator on the project, Michael Slade? And, do you hope DAYS brings back Dr. Craig Wesley? Share your thoughts via the comment section.
They are smart to leave Days alone. We are getting plenty of practice on how to Resist things we don’t like !
Days is safe, this is terrific news.
I HOPE so… and yes… I’ve been posting and sending my 2 cents…. leave us alone.
it’s just “amazing” a wonderment…that DAYS and SONY and NBC are seriously , once again… with bringing Ron Carlivati @DAYS that it’s going to be renewed.
Yes! They learned their lesson on ABC!
As a longtime Days fan of 49 years, I’m getting more than slightly hopeful that the show won’t be canceled. And, yes, I’m very happy she’s not going to replace Days. 🙂
Chloe this is great news, It looks like Days is safe. The ratings will get better now, with the hiring of Ron. I love Days, but they need to bring back Vivian Alamain and her side kick Ivan.
From your lips to Ron’s ears!!!
I am thrilled that Megyn Kelly will be taking an hour from Today! I am so excited that Days of Our Lives is not on the ‘chopping block’!!
finally a network making a decision that makes sense good for them. i don’t watch dool, i did as a kid, so i’m glad its not getting replaced.
Wow this is wonderful news, hopefully DOOL gets renewed for 2 more years.
This is a good sign, that Days will get renewed. Days is not dead yet. Time to bring back, Peter Blake. Please hire Michael Muhney ex Adam Y&R to play Peter Blake.
Ron C loves dipping into the archives for former characters and drama. I would be surprised if he did NOT reach into the rich history.
Days and Y&R are both owned by Sony, right? I really like the actor but this wish may not be possible
Michael Rodrick, ex Seth Baker, GH
Michael Muhney, ex Adam, Y&R
Jason Brooks, the man himself, if he’s interested
Chris McKenna, exY&R… officer Harding
I would love for Ron Carlivati to move heaven and earth for Michael Muhney, otherwise any of the 4 above would be GREAT
Nobody is going to move heaven and earth for Michael Muhney. I’m not commenting on his guilt or innocence or how hard he was to work with or any of the issues that surround him. But there was too much controversy to think someone would go to bat for him that strongly with Sony, after he left that company under such a cloud.
My hope is that Y&R will bring back Michael Muhney as Adam Newman.
DAYS would get a huge shot in the arm if it hired Michael Muhney. Sony has no issues hiring him despite what mindless parrotts spew on the internet.
I HAVE BEEN SAYING THIS FOR MONTHS! he would be the perfect Peter Blake!!!
Wow great move NBC, it’s seems like Days is safe from cancellation.
Days Of Our Lives fans must be on pins and needles, including me. I have hope that’s Days will be renewed. I am praying right now for good news. Amen.
Megyn is very pretty, but we need DOOL to get renewed.
The best news,. DOOL is here to stay.
Does this mean? Days will get renewed,. Let’s hope for the best.
Big rumors out there, that OLTL may come back To ABC. I hope this is true. They want OLTL back for 30 mins on ABC. Heard this on the radio this morning. On soap gossip. I live in Vancouver, BC Canada.
I hope so
One of the reasons CBS daytime is so successful they had strong lead ins– every show helps the next show in their line up– if NBC can duplicate that then Days has a shot — it hasn’t had a strong lead in for years. I am feeling more hopeful, but until NBC announces a renewal and how long it will be, I will still be nervous.
Excellent point,Mary. If you look at the success of “The Price Is Right,” you have to wonder if that is one of the reasons “Y&R” has remained #1 fr so long. Here is an idea. NBC should bring back “Password” and “Concentration” before “DOOL.” The nighttime success of games shows could be the answer daytime needs as strong lead ins.
Good for Days!
Folks, I’m just looking at this objectively and realistically, nothing more. You have to be completely naive to think that Days is 100% safe long-term. Have you seen the ratings in recent months, especially in the key demos? They’re abysmal numbers. If Days does somehow miraculously get renewed by NBC, it’ll undoubtedly be just a one year stay of execution through September 2018, and then we’ll be right back to this same game at this time next year. After all, Days was barely lucky enough to get renewed for one year last year, and it’s numbers were significantly better 12… Read more »
Agreed, sadly I think this is just postponing the inevitable. If Days is somehow gifted with a renewal/extension, it will be surely be extremely short term. It won’t last if the ratings don’t improve fast. I can’t imagine that the executives at NBC and/or Sony are truly happy with the show’s recent ratings performance. They’re down across the board sharply from last year. Do TPTB/fans really think the overrated, stuck up Ron Carlivati is going to be the savior? What a joke. And when exactly will his work start airing? July? August? Given his track record, he’ll be writing Days’… Read more »
I love Ron; he’s one of the best . Days can’t be any worse off as it is now!
I guess they have to break up nonstop hour after hour talk with something right? It may as well be a soap! I’m also cautiously hopeful that DOOL will stay.
Days will get renewed….Megyn will last about a year then get cancelled and NBC will have to fork out a ton of money on a wasted contract…..nobody wants to watch her in daytime….it will be another Katie Couric……we are tired of the all these lame ass talk shows…here’s an idea NBC….how about some game shows from 10-12 time frame….or move The Doctors into this time frame with two new game shows….then create another soap to follow Days….seriously, daytime talk shows are not working….when will the execs realize this…maybe reboot a 30 minute Edge of Night or Search for Tomorrow…please give… Read more »
I agree!
They could bring back press your luck or card shake or tee tac toe there one cant think of the name you spin the lever and you have a chance to win the prize that comes up three in a row and if the devel come The price is right high number at 10 .00 would have to put it on a 2;00 it would wonerful if they would bring one of them back
The Future looks brighter for Days, The soap will not be cancelled.
Days just got a stay of execution. The stay won’t last until their ratings tick upward.
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Well that time slot is good for Megan..
GH has way too much competition that could have add to it;
1pm ct ..
General Hospital
Rachael Ray
Dr. Oz
The Talk
The Peoples Court
If DOOL needs a lead in show how about a 30 minute version of ANOTHER WORLD?
Bring back this daytime icon NBC made a big mistake cancelling it!!!
I loved another world we were talking about it at work and so many people chimed in that they loved it younger people too not just older veteran soap fans. I think the networks have made a huge mistake canceling these soaps the fans are out there
That would be a so awesome it was my all time favorite
Days Is totally safe with their production model and now this its here to stay plus Ron Carlivati on board. All good good good!!
Let’s hope this is good news for Days.
someone that I know has a friend who allegedly works for NBC and this NBC supposedly told the person that I know that NBC is looking for a new soap. That’s what I heard but don’t think its true. Who knows?
None of the networks are interested in new soapa they are barely hanging on to what they’ve got. So your “source” needs to get a new source.
perhaps they are looking for a prime time soap..
they have become very popular..
Eliminating the Tamryn Hall / Al Roker hour is long overdue!
I dont watch Days but am happy for its fans that another talk show or news show is not taking over as the Chew did with OLTL and AMC!
I am slightly confused with MKs hiring by NBC. It seems that she did not leave on the best of terms with Fox News. Her contract with NBC is to offer a more “conservative” approach to their news. I have spoken to several of my friends that are conservatives and they seem to hate her for going up against Trump. So, my question is: Who is her audience? I read that she performed well co-hosting with Kelly Ripa. If that it the type of show she is going to do than the best of luck to her. It didn’t seem… Read more »
@Ray….I posed the same question about Megyn Kelly’s proposed NBC target audience a few weeks ago….she was never all that well-regarded on the right from the beginning, and her failed attempt to take down now-President Trump made her absolutely reviled, so who’s exactly clamoring to watch this woman? As far as I’m concerned, the only positive thing she could bring to the Peacock Network would be the displacement of Hoda and Kathie Lee from the Today Show to the curb in front of 30 Rock….cannot stand either of those two and their blowsy, nonsensical shtick, however, it doesn’t sound as… Read more »
They could always try moving Days to night time…..The British soaps, Hollyoaks, Eastenders, Coronation Street, all are broadcast during evening hours….and they are hugely successful…then Days could have a bigger budget and get better sets and have better production values…..just a thought!!!!
Another BUST! Her career tanked after she disrespected President Trump!
And in the meantime, Tucker Carlson is killing it in her old time slot at FoxNews, Timmm!!!
YAY SHAY! MOTHER TUCKER RULES!
This is great. Ron will totally save Days.