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Robin Strasser Shares On Twitter Her Reaction To OLTL Plot Point: Dorian To Cheer Up Blair Hires Two Male Hookers!
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If you miss Robin Strasser from your daytime screens as much as we do, raise your hands! The Daytime Emmy winner who for years entertained soap audiences with her portrayal of Dorian Cramer Lord on ABC’s One Life to Live always has some entertaining, revealing or thought-provoking tweets!
This series of tweets over the holidays caught our attention, and should be of interest for those longtime fans of One Life. Strasser detailed an old One Life to Live plot point that involved she as Dorian and Kassie DePaiva’s Blair where Dorian was to hire two male hookers to cheer a down and out Blair and what her reaction was to this story point!
Strasser related: “PLOT like a CLOT #OLTL Script #Dorian to cheer #Blair up- hires 2 male hookers-1 for each I guess-I was appalled & shocked-Refused to do it! Gorgeous Males were already hired I was told–I sed HELP ME OUT this is IMPOSSIBLE/IMPLAUSIBLE/FILTHY. Couldn’t they be massage therapists? I ‘m SO DIFFICULT:) prepared to schlep in my Massage table to save #OLTL rental fee-L OL-I LIE-I did it to avoid-imo-insult to #Cramer brand+ Plus? BRANDing it OK to behave irresponsibly sexual- WHO’d hire male hookers off the Internet? Apology 2 Consenting Adults-I chose to abstain. THAT+other stuff is why the sweet staff writer who carried #Dorian portrait down 66 ST. In 1999 & kept her in his closet until 2003 return. Cut to 9 Years later Dorian is cut out 6 months ahead #OLTL cancellation Head Writers don’t appreciate a fighter-Why should they? Right?:)”
So, what do you think of the indomitable Strasser’s tweets on how she was prepared to keep the Cramer brand from being damaged? What do you think of the plot point? Do you wish for Robin to return on the soaps? Comment below!
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I have to disagree with her. I think its something Dorian and Blair definitely would have done . Carlivati is a ratings getter she should have let him do his job
Ms. Strasser knows Dorian better than you, so if she feels it would have damaged the Cramer Women Image, then it would have. She would not have hired HOOKERS!
I have to agree with Robin. Not that I’m a prude. Just don’t think that would have been good for the Cramer image.
I love Robin Strasser and miss her and my beloved OLTL so very, very much.
Same here……I loved the soap and every single character on OLTL. I miss the show and all its players….I wish , I wish, I wish…..
Kudos to RS, for standing her ground. Quality writing doesn’t have to be vulgar or the lowest common denominator. I guess when character is short changed for plot purposes, you get these types of scenarios. The lions of soap writing would never have taken the cheap approach.
Days hire RS to play Lee Dumonde…she was Stephanos ex lover…she and Kate would make great enemies…imo
Lee Dumonde came to Salem in 1979 when her boyfriend Bryon Carmichael passed away in Paris and left his fortune to his half-brother Doug Williams. Lee came to Salem to get her claim to the money, and on November 5th Lee and Doug were married. However, in 1980 Doug realized his marriage to Lee was a mistake, and wanted to remarry Julie. Lee was furious and attempted to have Julie killed, but Julie lived. Lee then tried to fake a suicide attempt by overdosing on medication, but when she mixed her pills she suffered a stroke and was left partially paralyzed. Her plan worked, Doug told Julie he could not leave Lee while she was paralyzed. In 1981 Lee began to regain the use of her legs, which she kept secret in order to remain married to Doug. Brent Cavanaugh, who Lee hired to murder Julie for Lee Dumonde returned after having plastic surgery and he called himself Brad. When Brad tried to kill Julie, Lee Dumonde managed to knock him down, but was knocked unconscious. Julie was shocked because everyone believed Lee was paralyzed. As Brad went to kill Julie Lee woke up and shot him dead. Lee was put into Bayview Sanitarium afterward, and Julie and Doug resumed their relationship after Doug divorced Lee. Later Lee was released from the Sanitarium, and attempted to thwart Doug and Julie’s wedding. The wedding would go off as planned, but Lee managed turn Hope against her father and Julie, and decided to live with Tom and Alice. After her marriage broke up, Lee began to date Stuart Whyland. When Renee began to date Tony DiMera Lee warned her to stay away from him, but she refused. One night Renee was attacked by the Salem Strangler, but lived only because Lee walked in on the attack and the Strangler fled. After Renee learned that Lee was her mother, and had been lying to her for many years, Lee left town after Renee rejected her.
I watched all that unfold except when i briefly quit after the mass firings…and returned later…you got that all down perfectly…it was also revealed Lee had been Stephano’s mistress and to keep Renee and Tony apart, Lee claimed Renee was Stephanos daughter!!!
I too, would LOVE to see Robin Strasser come to DAYS, along with Erika S. If DAYS would just weed out those weak players, Ben, Melanie, Daniel, etc. and bring in real dramatics and queens of daytime, then DAYS ratings will only go up. I think OLTL fans are really happy to see Kassie and Melissa in Salem. Keep going DAYS!
I so agree with you…Erika would be a perfect Laura Horton…she even resembles Susan Flannery who played the second Laura from the 1960s to mid 70s!!!
Yeah, Erika would be a grand choice to play Laura. What about the last actress to play Laura? What happened to her? I too, would love Robin Strasser to just be on DAYS too, any character, as long as she’s on contract. Both Robin and Erika on contract at DAYS would be smart for Days.
Jaime Lyn Bauer was the last Laura…dont know what she’s been up to…loved her too…but Erika would still make a better Laura and id like to see Jerry Ver Dorn as her husband Bill…they both could do short story arcs…if they arent up to relocate to the west coast…Robin too!!!
Maybe DAYS can work something out with these east coast soap opera favorites. I’m assuming they are all based in nyc/ct, elsewhere?? Is the actor playing Aiden, what’s that talented actors name? Anyways, I understand he commutes from the east coast for DAYS. I love that. Maybe DAYS could make similar arrangements for Robin, Erika and Jerry.
Had to reply here, Jeremy.
Daniel Cosgrove plays Aiden Jennings.
I say make her Kate’s (heretofore?) unheard of sister or mother on Day’s
Id like to see her on Days no matter who she plays even as Kates unheard sister like you suggested or even as Nicoles real mother who comes to town searching for the daughter she gave up for adoption years ago…maybe as Linda Anderson, biological mother of Maggie’s daughter Melissa…Faye Walker couldve been Lindas housekeeper who secretly adopted Nicole after leaving Lindas employ…then there could be a mystery of who Nicoles father was ect….oh, i just want RS on the show as anybody…lol
jimh, I can’t take credit for the synopsis…I copied it from another site and pasted it on this site. I’m giving you credit for making me care enough to research the characters you were lucky enough to know!
Several actresses played Dorian Lord on OLTL…I would like to see two of them on DAYS playing sisters…Robin Strasser can play Lee Dumonde and Elaine Princi can play Linda Anderson..and one or the other could have had a daughter that none of the viewers knew about…she can be played by Philece Sampler! Would a new killer show up to kill the lookalike of Renee Dumonde who survived the Salem Strangler only to be murdered by the Salem Slasher?
As I recall, Linda Anderson died which is how Melissa came to be adopted by Mickey and Maggie. (Linda once had a huge crush on Mickey and tried every trick in the book to get him to marry her, including trying to pass Melissa off as his child. Of course, that joke was on her since Mickey was sterile.)
Still cool no matter where you got it…but Kit is wrong…Linda wasnt killed off…
Had to reply here, jimh!
Correct, Linda lives on! I knew that because I was already a fan of DAYS when Linda came back to Salem as Madame X. I never knew the character when she was played by the former actress.
I sent Kit a synopsis of Linda Patterson Anderson.
The late Margaret Mason played the villainous Linda but she was never a mean, ruthless and cruel villian like most villians are today…things usually backfired but she meant well and actually thought she was helping others and herself in a good way with her schemes…i miss her!!!
That’s the fellow. Daniel/Aiden
Would love to see her on DAYS OF OUR LIVES, along with the one and only Erika Slezak – it’s funny how we all say the same thing, none of us have suggested Bold and Beautiful or Young and Restless – we all seem to see these two great soap actresses on DAYS. Lord knows, DAYS could use them, some of their plotlines are rather thin and not terribly compelling. Probably the most interesting storylines right now are will Sonny be tempted by Paul, and will Aiden the Lawyer turn out to be a crazed killer much to Hope’s dismay. Aside from that, the storylines need a little help and good grief the writers need to SPEED it up a little ~
Ms. Strasser certainly would have a wonderful book in the making about things like this, I am hoping these are tidbits of something special coming from the diva in the literary dept. She always gave her all…
Male strippers, yes I can see Dorian doing that. Male hookers in the age of AIDs, I can’t see Dorian doing that. We were told she was ill and could not work at that time.It was a lie? She was written out? That is awful. I had no idea. We were told sh had a bad back or something. (I mean that Robin did and therefore could not play Dorian.
Hi Lin…Robin did/does have a bad back. Perhaps they did write her out for several years that she’s referring to due to “artistic” differences during another time but the back problems are real.
She was off for several years but came back. some time after she came back they canceled it. The last 6 or so months the show was on, she was not. The press releases said it was due to a bad back she could not perform. But note what she says in the interview above: “Cut to 9 Years later Dorian is cut out 6 months ahead #OLTL cancellation Head Writers don’t appreciate a fighter-Why should they? Right?:)” I read this as they had her go off and it was not due to an illness of Robin’s.
I agree with her! If it felt wrong then it probably was. She knows her character better than anyone else. I miss her on the soaps! I hope she returns to daytime soon!
David hired 2 call girls for him and Matthew after Dani dumped him. Those were some funny scenes! But not sure if it would work with Dorian and Blair. Maybe if she took her to a male strip club?
Those scenes made me cringe. I don’t think Eddie Alderson (Matthew) was much more than 16. So awkward, inappropriate and tasteless. They were the very definition of Too Much Information.
Tuc Watkins, Eddie Alderson and Shenell Edmonds were hilarious together and these were brilliantly funny scenes!
Of course setting up dates with hookers was inappropriate, but we’re talking about David Vickers here. Matthew was very young, but he didn’t seem to mind the attention. And Destiny’s reaction to it all the next morning when she showed up at the apartment? Haha, I have to watch these scenes again, so funny!
I think Robin knows the character of Dorian, and if she felt it wasn’t appropriate, then it wasn’t. Personally, I think I like the massage therapist idea better.
I miss OLTL and Dorian and of course, Robin Strasser. I appreciate the histories and back stories, too, but sadly they seem like such past times now. Why can’t networks and creatives see the value of daytime dramas and the practitioners. It would be great to see Robin Strasser return to daytime. Does Y&R’s Gloria need a mother?
Robin Strasser is right. Writers do get characterizations wrong sometimes, and this was one of those times. It’s the height of arrogance IMO for a writer not to at least listen to the person acting the part, especially someone who knows her character as well as Robin Strasser did. It’s not as if she started portraying the character yesterday.
And one of the reasons Dorian was such an enduring and ultimately endearing character was as much if not more due to the way she inhabited the character throughout all the different – and sometimes dreadful – writing regimes.
Carlivati can put that in his pipe and smoke it.
Following Ms. Strasser on Twitter is a delight. I think she nailed it with the change to massage therapists. Nuanced. Same score in ratings. Right idea. Hats off to Robin. Even if I DO understand why they don’t (writers) normally want the chickens running the hen house.
Maybe this would have worked on screen, maybe not. Dorian did plenty of reprehensible things over the years and the Cramer brand survived. That being said, Robin and Kassie would likely have played those scenes beautifully.
Robin is a true daytime icon. She humanized Dorian, as she had done with Rachel on Another World. Put her back on TV where she belongs!
I have to say I think the change to massage therapists was the right call. Dorian … DORIAN LORD … the queen of always having to look and be the best at everything (in her mind, anyway) running the risk of everyone in town finding out she hired call-boys??? Oh dear, that would be embarrassing. Dorian would never be so desperate. Strippers, sure. Massage therapists? Even better!
If I recall correctly… eh hem … there was a scene once where Dorian DID end up taking a massage therapist up to her room for a personal session? Something about tension in her back? Now that I do not put past Dorian at all.
Robin Strasser had known Dorian intimately for a lot longer than whoever wrote that scene, and she is an extremely imaginative person who would make a great writer herself and has been told so many times. Not that it was her job on the show, but she knew what she was talking about and her opinion should have been given some respect (and apparently was).
Oh yes Miss Dorian has superb class and we want to see her on tv Bring back OLTL; we need this show, we need the actors: Robin Strasser, Erika Sleszek, Clint. I love all of them, and I miss them totally!!!!!
I’m with you 100% Debbie.
I’m over OLTL being off the air (NOT)….will any of us EVER really get over it ?
Having said that I WOULD love to see Robin Strasser and Erika Slezak back on the small screen again.
Oh boy would I ever……
I don’t care how or why, I just want to see her backb
on my TV screen! Some soap should hire her! Now!
I have to agree with Robin Strasser on this one. It sounds silly to say given the often preposterous situations soap characters find themselves in on a daily basis but to paraphrase the great Doug Marland’s 10 rules if the audience says a character would never do that then you’ve failed.
It’s a fine line. Dorian would have too much pride to resort to sleazy online hookers. She’d find some wealthy business men or fake royalty or something other than online prostitutes. Tasteless gag that seems more about mocking the characters than writing them true to character.
I wish more actors would refuse to play some of the crap written for them!!
The soap world needs more Doug Marland’s and Claire Labine’s.
Yes. They understood the genre. It’s kind of soap cliché but many of the great soap names have said thank you for welcoming us into you home every day. If you understand that then you also get why you don’t bring trash in:)
And let’s not forget Agnes Nixon and Bill Bell.
Kit, I had to reply here. The last paragraph in the synopsis is when Linda Anderson was played by Elaine Princi. Linda was Mickey’s secretary, but in 1970 soon began having an affair with him. Soon Linda would become pregnant, and she honestly believed Mickey was the father. Linda hoped Mickey would leave Laura to marry her, but Mickey worked through his differences with Laura by the end of 1970. Meanwhile Linda began seeing Bill Horton on the side at the same time she was seeing Mickey. In 1971 when Mickey finally told Linda he would remain faithful to Laura, Linda tried to commit suicide. Linda survived the attempt, but it would set off a chain reaction of events. Linda’s pregnancy was revealed, as was Mickey and Linda’s affair. After Linda had her baby blood tests proved that the baby’s father was actually Linda’s former boy friend Jim Philips. When Jim heard the news he returned to Salem, and married Linda by the end of 1971 and they moved to Boston. In 1975 Linda returned to Salem with her daughter Melissa. Once she heard news that Mickey had lost his memory she tried to re-kindle their romance by trying to convince him he was Melissa’s father. However, her plans were thwarted by her dying husband who wrote Maggie and warned her and Mickey of Linda’s plans. Linda was determined to steal Mickey away from Maggie, and in hopes of doing it through his son Linda began spending a great deal of time with Mike Horton. When Mike became confused of his sexual feelings toward Trish Clayton, and women in general Linda slept with Mike to cure him of these feelings. Mike became obsessed with Linda, though she quickly pointed out she only loved Mickey. Linda continued her quest to try to steal Mickey from Maggie, but when she realized Mickey was no longer interested she set her sights on Bob Anderson, who gave her a job as his executive assistant. When Bob seemed to lack interest in Linda she began to see Tommy Horton, who eventually proposed to her. In 1978 Bob began to suffer heart problems and Linda Patterson began to assume more control over the company. Linda enjoyed her newly acquired power and in order to keep it she broke of her engagement to Tommy Horton and married Bob Anderson in April of 1978. When Linda gained control of Anderson Manufacturing the first thing she did was demote Chris Kositchek, who quit and formed began to form his own business. Linda also began to see Neil while Bob recovered in the hospital after suffering a heart attack. In 1979 Bob confronted Linda about her affair, and Linda became so upset she fell down the stairs and was rushed into emergency surgery. Linda made it through but couldn’t remember her affair with Neil. Linda returned to Bob Anderson and tried to make the marriage work for Melissa’s sake. She was replaced by Stephanie Woodruff at Anderson and Linda then… Read more »
I often wonder how different the soap world would be now if Marland had not passed away. I can’t decide if he’d have stuck around, and in that case his influence would undoubtedly have made some positive difference (though how much of a difference is hard to judge), or if he would have been just another one of the long list of quality soap writers (Labine, Nancy Curlee, Jerome and Bridget Dobson come immediately to mind) who got fed up and quit and just refuse to work in the current environment.
Yes definitely would’ve worked. What we think kind of moot only because after a while regardless or writers an actor/actress know their characters. For decades off and on I remember readding/hearing Robin was dificult. THIS angers me. Difficult because she wants to fight for waht she feels her character would/wouldn’t do. Yes I certainly remember her being let go then us getting told ” the truth” I knew then it sounded fishy and sure enough came out years later it was. fishy. Good Robin, still say I could have seen it on screen though and would have been in character but Robin didn’t want to do it.
Oh, for pete’s sake, are you kidding me? Dorian was a DOCTOR. Of COURSE she wouldn’t have done something like that where Blair was concerned (to/for somebody she didn’t care about, maybe–but not Blair or anybody else whose well-being meant something to her). Massage therapists and male strippers are both better suggestions that play to roughly the same plot point and would have been fully in character. I’m trying to remember who was head-writing OLTL in 2003–was it Dena the Disaster, or is that too early for her? Whoever it was should have been ashamed.
lol
Some Doctors off duty do some really risque awesome stuff that would make one cringe while being naked on his table if they knew.. lol
And most are very sexual creatures, ya betcha 😉 ..
(google them/it, or simply date doctors for a decade or two lol..some are not saintly..
I’m not concerned about the “really risque awesome” part, su—I’m concerned about the “sex with prostitutes you’ve hired off the Internet is quite risky in the AIDS era” part. I don’t see Dorian putting Blair at that kind of risk.
Duration Name
July 1968 — July 1972 Agnes Nixon
Paul Roberts
Don Wallace
August 1972 — September 1973 Agnes Nixon
Gordon Russell
September 1973 — October 1978 Gordon Russell
November 1978 — March 1980 Gordon Russell
Sam Hall
March 1980 — May 1982 Sam Hall
Peggy O’Shea
July 1982 — January 1983 Sam Hall
Henry Slesar
February 1983 — June 1983 Henry Slesar
June 1983 — December 1983 John William Corrington
Joyce Corrington
December 1983 — June 1984 Sam Hall
Peggy O’Shea
July 1984 — June 1987 Peggy O’Shea
July 1987 — July 1990 S. Michael Schnessel
September 1990 — May 1991 Craig Carlson
Leah Laiman
May 1991 — August 1991 Craig Carlson
August 1991 — January 1992 Michael Malone
January 1992 — February 1995 Josh Griffith
Michael Malone
March 1995 — March 1996 Michael Malone
April 1996 — December 1996 Leah Laiman
Jean Passanante
Peggy Sloane
December 1996 — Spring 1997 Jean Passanante
Peggy Sloane
Spring 1997 — March 29, 1998 Claire Labine
Matthew Labine
March 30, 1998 — December 31, 1998 Pamela K. Long
January 1999 — September 1999 No Head Writer credited
September 1999 — January 2001 Megan McTavish
January 2001 — January 31, 2003 Lorraine Broderick
Christopher Whitesell
February 3, 2003 — March 7, 2003 Josh Griffith
March 10, 2003 — March 22, 2004 Josh Griffith
Michael Malone
March 23, 2004 — November 24, 2004 Michael Malone
November 29, 2004 — December 10, 2004 Brian Frons
Frank Valentini
December 13, 2004 — May 7, 2007 Dena Higley
May 8, 2007 — September 10, 2007 Dena Higley
Ron Carlivati
September 11, 2007 — February 14, 2008 Ron Carlivati
February 15, 2008 — May 1, 2008 Gary Tomlin (WGA strike)
May 2, 2008 — January 13, 2012 Ron Carlivati
April 29, 2013 — July 1, 2013 Thom Racina
Susan Bedsow Horgan
July 1, 2013 — July 15, 2013 Thom Racina
Susan Bedsow Horgan
Jessica Klein
July 22, 2013 — August 19, 2013 Thom Racina
Jessica Klein
I’m sorry for the copy & paste gone awry. I googled for a list of OLTL head writers and the info was in a nice boxed columned chart, but after I copied and pasted, the boxes that separated the dates and names disappeared! Everything crunched together!!!
Four head writers wrote for OLTL in 2003…Josh Griffith was the main one.
Thanks for the research, 4ever. Griffith and Malone should both have known Dorian better; my bet would be Whitesell/Broderick.
If indeed 2003 is the year. I’m rereading the tweet and really can’t make out the timeline. She’s talking, or seems to be, about a staff writer who got fired in 2003 who had been protective of Dorian’s character. So does that mean that this lousy writing suggestion took place in 2003, or just that it happened sometime after 2003? It doesn’t seem clear to me.
Sorry, my mistake–I should have said “a staff writer who got fired in 1999 and came back in 2003.” And it does sound as though she’s saying that incidents like this one are why that staff writer was hired back. But I still am having trouble parsing out exactly what the tweet says (which, alas, is a limitation of tweets if what you’re trying to convey/communicate is at all complicated).
These scenes occurred in 2009. Griffith and Malone were not the headwriters.
Carlivati kept Dorian’s portrait when she left the show in 1999. Strasser returned to OLTL in 2003.
Wow. I wish I could respond to you directly, Diane, but if it’s true that Ron Carlivati was the staff writer who saved the portrait only to make the character of Dorian the butt of a tasteless hooker joke 9 years later then her tweets make total sense.
Michael, it is confusing but I think what Robin Strasser is trying to say is about defending the integrity of the character. RS was more or less forced out in 1999 and hence the nod to the staff writer who saved/protected the Dorian portrait …the image of the character so to speak…until RS/Dorian was brought back in 2003 by Michael Malone/Josh Griffith.
I think it’s pretty obvious the online hooker gag came from Ron Carlivati who also brought us knee slappers like teens forced into a comedic romp thru porn via the Hold The Whatever weenie joke of the day. Sometimes (often) RC just doesn’t seem to know when to quit.
RS certainly has the rep of being a diva but I have to agree with her on this one. The gag was tasteless and shoving her larger than life character out the door in the last few months of the show came off as very petty.
Dorian had class or at least tried to have it. Love that she would protect her character and that she had the clout to do so. A true star and one that is badly missed.
Would love to see robin strasser come back to general hospital and take over as head of the hospital and kick orbechts ass at the hospital….! And go head to head with Helena!-7
I would watch Robin Strasser anywhere, anytime. I would love it if she came to Days! OLTL was, by far, the best soap ever. ABC is CRAZY if they don’t bring it back. The cooking/talks shows are not working.
I agree with you completely. Agnes Nixon brought the daytime drama into the modern era with the creation of OLTL and AMC. I watched the very first episode of OLTL and instantly fell in love with it. Through the years it changed and grew as the world changed and grew. There were always characters and situations that kept you involved and guessing what was going to happen next. I always said OLTL has the strongest cast of any show I’ve ever seen lead by the incomparable Erika Slezak and Robin Strasser. Whether on TV or online, OLTL has got to come back to us.
WELL MICHAEL YOU KNOW I AM A VERY BIG FAN OF OLTL. ROBIN & ERIKA ARE MY FAV. PEOPLE ON OLTL. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THEM ON A SHOW TOGETHER AGAIN. IT IS A SHAME TO BE WASTING TALENT SUCH AS THEIRS. SOMEONE SHOULD HAVE THE SENSE TO PUT THEM ON A SHOW. ROBIN HAS THE ABILITY TO MAKE YOU HATE HER & THEN FEEL SORRY FOR HER WHEN THINGS DON’T GO RIGHT FOR HER. HER & ERIKA PLAY PERFECT OFF EACH OTHER. SO SOMEBODY SHOULD USE THEIR SENSE & PUT THEM ON TV.
One final thought on the Carlivati comment/reference at the end of the tweet. I’m in the vast minority, apparently, in being in the middle regarding Mr. Carlivati (generally people seem either to adore him or to loathe him, with little middle ground): I see some real talent that his detractors don’t acknowledge, and I also see some real problems, especially the longer he continues on GH, that his fans seem to gloss over. And at this point I could easily see—given some of the totally plot-driven and character-neglecting stuff he has sometimes done on GH—that he might have had a problem with someone as strong-willed and opinionated as Robin Strasser who would oppose scripts and plot points that she found to be out of character. When Dorian was written out early from OLTL, I was more inclined to attribute it to budget; Valentini was well known for his ability to keep the budget in check, and Strasser would not have been inexpensive (even with the pay cut she reportedly took when she came back after JFP drove her away). Now that I’ve seen a little more of how Carlivati operates, however, I’m more inclined to think Strasser might be right and that he might have had something to do with why Dorian was written out early. At least it seems a possibility.
Of course I want Robin Strasser to return to the soaps!!! She could be a force to be reckoned with on General Hospital!!!! 🙂
Robin is 100% right…..and knows Dorian and Blair much more than Carlivati ever could.
Hope one life comes back on miss you robin loved when you fought with Vicky,abc made a big mistake canceling your show.they r suffering for it,they cannot get a good show on in the afternoon,too bad revenge is sweet.take care and hope to see you back on,I am part of the fans that r fighting to get one life back on
Let’s not forget that Ron and Frank are responsible for the Marty/”Todd” rape mance and that weenie in the hot dog costume taking advantage of a mentally ill Jessica. Yes, they have talent writing both OLTL and GH, and they do know how to generate buzz, but the more that they’re on General Hospital, the less enchanted I’ve become. They’ve definitely lost the sweetness and the warmth they once had as well as the ability to maintain and conclude a story. Let’s not forget that they knew how to write a kick butt corporate takeover story (and with someone – Dorian – who wasn’t crazy or a criminal and one that didn’t involve relish).
Having said all of that, I miss Robin too and wish that ABC and Prospect Park would conclude their feud so even if a Dorian didn’t join GH permanently, she could do an arc.
Further, I’m glad that at least there’s an ABC soap left to feel frustrated about.
I’m pretty sure the “rapemance” was Dena Higley; I can ‘t remember who the EP was at the time (might have been Valentini or might have been somebody before him), but I don’t think Carlivati was HW. The “aw look, let’s all feel sorry for Ford because he’s having to wear a hot dog costume, maybe what he did to Jessica during her breakdown wasn’t so awful” was definitely Carlivati (and Valentini). And much as I loathed that story, I’d have to reserve final judgment until I could know–if I ever could–whether redeeming Ford was their idea or something that was foisted upon them by ABC executives. If the latter, I can’t really blame them for the awfulness (and actually sort of admire them for not making more than a token effort to make it plausible/believable).
I think you’ve described my feeling about Carlivati/Valentini-era GH pretty much perfectly: I thought the first year to 18 months were excellent, and since then “the less enchanted I’ve become,” as you put it.
Nope, you’re right, Andrew: the rapemance was Carlivati also. Egads. Offensive on so many levels.
Oh yes the Rape Mance was definitely Carlivati – that was what put them on the soap map and generated (negative) buzz about the show.
Although I have to admit that it got me back to the show after Higley had driven me far far away with her serial killers offing legacy characters and psychopaths (like Margaret Cochran) running amok.
But the problem with the negative kind of buzz that Carlivati could create is that you can’t sustain it and so once the lookie loos are done, they leave and then the regular viewers are pissed off.
I stayed because it seemed that Carlivati gave a shit about the show and its history and brought back some ideas and themes that had been abandoned by previous regimes. It also built some new things (Clint as the new Asa vs. Bo, for example). It had life, energy, a sense of fun … unfortunately the camp got out of hand towards the end of the OLTL run (do we even need to rehash the weird story with Todd and his mom?) and has completely dominated GH but without the life, energy and sense of fun. The endless Legion of Doom (Dr. O, Faison, Helena, Jerry, and on and on) stories are exhausting.
I rather liked the “Tale of Two Todds,” complete with its utter campiness and near-total implausibility, because the dynamic between the two brothers was interesting (and I remember Trevor St. John just breaking my heart at a few points), and then they chose not to explore that aspect and I was less interested. I had tuned out during Dena the Disaster and I was late to the game on Carlivati; I’m wondering if in retrospect the rapemance story was why I did not tune back in sooner (people were certainly singing Carlivati’s praises from practically the start of his tenure, and I’m wondering if I saw the rapemance stuff going on and said a mental “no thank you, not if that’s the kind of stuff he’s doing”). I did come back for the last year and was mostly impressed, though Rapist Ford was a constant black mark. I think the camp was more under control and the show (though occasionally it did seem to careen wildly from plot point to plot point) was better balanced than GH currently is. Current GH seems to me to be much more plot driven, and the camp quotient is out of control. Valentini and Carlivati still have a sense for what I’d term “solid drama”—the early November sweeps with Carly’s/Sonny’s comeuppance and Nina stealing Ava’s baby was can’t-miss stuff, and I didn’t fast-forward at all, so they can still bring their A-game when they choose to—but the plottiness and campiness have gotten way out of control, and the final product is wildly uneven. (I still prefer it to JFP-Guza or JFP-Wolf, however.) I have my suspicions that this is perhaps the best we can hope for in the post-writer era of soaps: with network executives rather than headwriters driving the creative process, this may be the best we’ll get (i.e., they’re doing as much as they can to keep some shreds of character and plausibility but they have to meet the brass’s demands for plot-plot-plot and “exciting” story developments). And I agree about the Legion of Doom—it’s still not as dark and depressing as the JFP-Guza days, but I can’t watch every day, either, because I can’t take it (and I could, for most of the last year of OLTL and most of the first year that C & V were in charge of GH).
Regardless I want my stories back. I hope the person who made the decision to cut All My Children and One life to Live lost their job. They were not in touch with reality. Even though I like Couric, they should never had put her on daytime. Please bring back our stories or at least a movie giving us closure. Think about it!!!!!
You definitely got your wish Debbie. The visible hatchet man, Frons, left in 2012. Anne Sweeney, who is rumored to be the real catalyst behind the whole mess, should be gone at the end of 2014. Hopefully, neither will ever work ever again. Whether or not the big boss, Bob Iger, chairman of the mouse company, had a hand in this I do not know.
Please bring back OLTL and AMC.
I came to OTLT late in the game, but some of what was re-Tweeted seems a bit contradictory to what I read on this site ~ and I trust Michael’s reporting. While I believe actors know their characters better than MOST writers, I do question her statement about her “fighting” for the Cramer Brand as the reason she was released early. All reports were saying it was due to her back surgery. Were we being lied to? Someone seems to have been playing games. Hopefully, it’s just a confusion in stories, but if not, that’s what happens. I think Ms. Strasser is a brilliant presence and wish her well.
Who says it’s an either/or? Most things in life aren’t that simple. My guess is the writer of the show decided he would no longer write for her character and he didn’t get any pushback from his bosses. RS has a back bad enough to consider surgery and she made the decision to leave given the environment.
What I remember is that RS had asked for time off for back surgery, so they put in place Dorian’s exit story (because the back surgery would have kept her off from work until after the show ended), then the surgery was cancelled, or delayed or whatever, and she told them she was available after all, but they chose not to rewrite the story so that Dorian could remain in Llanview until the end. How much RS’s outspokenness figured into that decision is anybody’s guess. She had had long-running conflicts with ABC brass (i.e., higher-ups than the show’s executive producer and headwriter) for years and years; I remember there was controversy about her hotline, etc., while JFP was the execuprod. So it could be that ABC—and not Valentini or Carlivati—were the ones who decided she wouldn’t be coming back before the final episode. (But in that case, maybe she felt Valentini and Carlivati didn’t fight for her, or didn’t fight hard enough.) Even with the deluge of information we now have about the behind-the-scenes stuff (far more than the mid-70s when I started watching soaps, that’s for sure), I’m not sure we get the real story—or at least the full story—very often. I do have the strong sense that Valentini and Carlivati are “team players” (clearly an asset if you work for ABC and want to keep your job), and I suspect that they suck it up and take the heat for a lot of bad decisions/choices that are ultimately made by ABC and not the two of them.
I think Ron didn’t want to write for her either. Even as the show was canceled she was hardly on screen unless Tuc Watkins had a break from Desperate Housewives. And when the show was canceled and RC and FV had sayso over who would be invited to the PP version of the show, no one approached Strasser for a return. David was expected to return, without Dorian. When Ron and Frank were no longer involved with PP, Strasser was one of the first to be approached about the online version. As you say, we will probably not know the full story but I think a veteran performer knows when a headwriter either doesn’t have the ability or the desire to write for his/her character.
Just bring back OLTL PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ditto!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you Robin Strasser for giving a damn.
I love Dorian.. But, I would adore Robin Strasser in anything. I have not seen her in a long while… Where is she acting at……. so I can watch it?!
Follow her on Twitter. That’s where she is acting. She is the greatest! Bring back OLTL!
I could see Dorian and Blair being secuced and sleeping with a guy. Then, learning that they were male prostitutes. That would have been funny.
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Justin Hartley Scores Supporting Actor In a Drama Series Nod As 25th Annual Critics Choice Nominations Unveiled
And the nominees are … so say the film and TV critics … in the just announced 25th Annual Critics Choice Awards. The winners will be announced during a live ceremony airing Sunday, January 12 on The CW beginning at 7PMEST/6PMCST.
In the television categories, This Is Us came up with several key nominations including: being in the running for Best Drama Series, and in addition, Justin Hartley (Ex-Y&R, Revenge, Passions) nabbed a Supporting Actor in a Drama Series nomination for his performance as Kevin Pearson in the NBC drama series,
Hartley’s on-screen brother, Sterling K, Brown received recognition in the Lead Actor in a Drama Series for his work as Randall. In addition, Susan Kelechi Watson scored a nomination for her work as Randall’s wife, Beth in the Supporting Actress in a Drama Series category.
In an interesting first, The Kelly Clarkson Show received a nomination in the Best Talk Show category and is the only one in the running from daytime, all the rest in the pack are from primetime or late night.
Downton Abbey: The Movie scored in the film categories in Best Production and Costume Design.
Click here for the official list of all the nominations in the film and TV categories competing for the Critics Choice Awards 2020.
Now below, let us know what you think of Justin’s nomination as well as his cast mates from This Is Us in the comment section.
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Caroll Spinney, Legendary Sesame Street Puppeteer Behind Big Bird And Oscar The Grouch, Dead At 85
More sorrowful news on Sunday. Caroll Spinney, the legendary puppeteer behind beloved Sesame Street characters Big Bird and Oscar the Grouch,died today, at the age 85 at his home in Connecticut. Spinney has been suffering from dystonia for quite some time.
For the body of his life’s work, Spinney received many significant honors. He was the recipient of four Daytime Emmy awards, as well as the National Academy of Television Arts and Sciences’ Lifetime Achievement Award in 2006, the Library of Congress’ Living Legend Award, two Grammy awards and a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame.
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The Sesame Street workshop put on this press release upon his passing: “Caroll was an artistic genius whose kind and loving view of the world helped shape and define Sesame Street from its earliest days in 1969 through five decades, and his legacy here at Sesame Workshop and in the cultural firmament will be unending. His enormous talent and outsized heart were perfectly suited to playing the larger-than-life yellow bird who brought joy to generations of children and countless fans of all ages around the world, and his lovably cantankerous grouch gave us all permission to be cranky once in a while.
Welcomed to Sesame Street by Jim Henson, Caroll thrived under a mentorship that led to a decades-long great friendship. Caroll’s unparalleled career saw Big Bird visit China with Bob Hope, dance with the Rockettes, be celebrated with a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame and a U.S. postage stamp, and named a “Living Legend” by the Library of Congress. A favorite highlight for Caroll was conducting symphony orchestras and performing with them across the United States, Australia, and China, allowing him to personally connect with families everywhere through the music of Sesame Street. Caroll Spinney gave something truly special to the world. With deepest admiration, Sesame Workshop is proud to carry his memory – and his beloved characters – into the future. Our hearts go out to Caroll’s beloved wife, Debra, and all of his children and grandchildren.
Sesame Street co-founder Joan Ganz Cooney said of her longtime colleague and friend, “Caroll Spinney’s contributions to Sesame Street are countless. He not only gave us Big Bird and Oscar the Grouch, he gave so much of himself as well. We at Sesame Workshop mourn his passing and feel an immense gratitude for all he has given to Sesame Street and to children around the world.”
Share your thoughts on the passing of Caroll Spinney and his tremendous contribution for bringing to life for children young and old, Big Bird, and Oscar the Crouch and more.
But first, watch Barbara Walters present Spinney with the Daytime Emmy Lifetime Achievement Award at the 33rd annual Daytime Emmy Awards.
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Noted Soap Opera Producer Lisa de Cazotte Has Died; Daytime Community Mourns Her Passing
Sad news to report on Sunday as the soap opera community and its fans learn of the passing of Daytime Emmy-winning and noted soap opera producer, Lisa de Cazotte,
Lisa passed away yesterday on Saturday December 7th after a long illness at the age of 58, From early in her career her love of the soaps and passion for it were evident. She began right out of college as an intern on ABC’s One Life to Live, where she worked her way up to Coordinating Producer.
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Next, Lisa eventually became the Supervising Producer of NBC’s one and only Santa Barbara. She spent time also on All My Children, before heading back to NBC and Sunset Beach where she assumed the role of Supervising Producer there.
However, it was in 1999 where de Cazotte became the Executive Producer of Passions, which she helmed and remained till the end of its run in 2008. It was a show that she loved so much. She continued her career in the soaps in 2012 stepping into Salem and Days of our Lives where Lisa was named Co-Executive Producer of the series winning two Daytime Emmy Awards. for her efforts.
Sadly, now her final gig began in 2017, when she became Supervising Producer of The Young and the Restless and won her third Emmy in the process this past year. De Cazotte was said to still be producing Y&R at the time of her passing. She is survived by her husband, Antoine de Cazotte, and her beloved brothers: Michael Patrick Smith, Robert Terence Smith, and Brian Charles Smith.
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On social media over the last several hours, many actors, and colleagues have shared their sorrow and remembrances of Lisa. Here are just a sampling:
Jason Thompson (Billy,, Y&R): We lost a member of the family last night, one of our producers, Lisa De Cazotte. I first worked with Lisa when she produced the 2nd season of “Night Shift”. Years later and currently on @YandR_CBS She was kind and smart. Our thoughts are with her family.”
Eric Martsolf (Brady, DAYS): The kindness and opportunity this woman furnished me was immeasurable. We have lost one of the hardest working and graceful producers in our genre. I will miss you terribly, Lisa. #RIP”
Michelle Stafford (Phyllis, Y&R) “Sometimes you recognize those women who are part of “the tribe”. Whether you know them for 20 years or 20 minutes… they are still part of your tribe. Lucky for me. Godspeed beautiful Lisa”
Angelica Rosas McDaniel (Ex-CBS Daytime Exec) “Last night we lost a light in this world with the passing of Lisa De Cazotte. Lisa was smart, strong, kind, vibrant, an incredible friend and an Emmy winning producer on many beloved shows. I was blessed to know her. Sending love to her family and friends.”
Michael Logan (Former TV Guide Columnist): “RIP Lisa de Cazotte, one of the truly great soap producers. A real nose-to-the-grindstone talent, she never wanted personal glory choosing instead to do the work, quietly and fabulously. Her partnership with James E. Reilly on #Passions was epic.”
McKenzie Westmore (Ex-Sheridan Crane, Passions): “Heart broken at the passing of my Passions EP Lisa!!”
Sara Bibel (Writer, Y&R): “Lisa was a wonderful producer, a joy to work with, and knew everything about daytime. She will be missed by everyone at Y&R. RIP”
Michael Fairman TV will continue to update this section of the post as more remembrances are posted over the next 24 hours.
Share your condolences and thoughts on the passing of Lisa de Cazotte in the comment section below.
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General HospitalDecember 6, 2019WATCH: Steve Burton & Bradford Anderson Take On Grammy-Nominated Hit ‘Old Town Road’ With A GH Twist
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Days Of Our LivesDecember 8, 2019DAYS Head Writer Ron Carlivati Talks On: Ben Weston, Soap Amnesia, Doppelgängers, and the Time Jump
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General HospitalDecember 6, 2019Paging Dr. Griffin Munro! Matt Cohen Makes A Return Visit To GH
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General HospitalDecember 3, 2019Soap Stars At Hollywood Christmas Parade 2019 (Photos)
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General HospitalDecember 9, 2019A Friz Holiday Miracle On GH?
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General HospitalDecember 4, 2019WEDNESDAY: GH Stars Set To Perform Acoustic Holiday Concert On Facebook Live
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Days Of Our LivesDecember 8, 2019Noted Soap Opera Producer Lisa de Cazotte Has Died; Daytime Community Mourns Her Passing
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General HospitalDecember 3, 2019TONIGHT: Rick Hearst Makes His AMBITIONS Debut