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Scott Clifton Reveals Theory On Why The Bold and The Beautiful's Love Triangles Are So Successful!

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This past Thursday at the Paley Center for Media in Beverly Hills, in the continued celebration of CBS Daytime’s 30 years at #1 and their exhibit on display through November 27th, stars of The Bold and the Beautiful, along with EP and head writer, Brad Bell participated in a panel moderated by TV Guide’s Michael Logan.

Participating in the panel event were: Katherine Kelly Lang (Brooke), Heather Tom (Katie), Karla Mosley (Maya), Jacob Young (Rick), Scott Clifton (Liam), Jacqueline MacInnes Wood (Steffy), Darin Brooks (Wyatt), John McCook (Eric), Don Diamont (Bill) and Alley Mills (Pam).  At the beginning of the event a clip package was shown illustrating the love stories, triangles, and moments from the series, followed by a reading of the first episode of the series.  It was read on-stage with all the cast members and Brad Bell playing the parts.

During the Q&A session, Logan begun to touch upon the wildly popular success and soap staple of The Bold and the Beautiful; that of their storied love triangles.  From Bill/Brooke/Ridge, to Wyatt/Steffy/Liam, to Hope/Liam/Wyatt, and on and on, and on.   When the question of why this hallmark of the show continues to work so well, it was Scott Clifton who weighed-in on the topic and nailed it on the head.

Scott Clifton on the success of B&B love triangles: “You can almost pick any love triangle, and almost every time divide our entire audience in half in who they support, and now with social media it’s even easier to see.  We can see it from a birds-eye view.   You can have two fans who look at the exact same scene and in the same context, and come away with two wildly different interpretations.  I don’t think that is an accident.  There is a formula and a design that allows the audience to use their imaginations and fill in the blanks, and insert their own ethics, and their own morality, and their own spin on what they are seeing.  I think that contributes to the success of these triangles, and as Brad Bell was saying, ‘there is an inherent morality’ (to the characters), and I think that’s true.  You can watch any scene and you can see both characters as the good guy, and I think that’s rare.”

So, do you agree with Scott Clifton’s assesement of why B&B fans continually invest in the show’s triangles and are drawn in by them?  Share your thoughts in the comment section below!

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I disagree, I thoroughly dislike the triangles. They would be interesting occassionally, but this thing of never, ever having a happy couple for more than a couple of weeks gets tiring. Just my opinion

I totally agree, these triangles get old. Same storyline over and over.

B & B is only known for love triangles and flashbacks every day. I’ve been watching for nine years now. Same repeated stories just a different day. How may times can Nicole go thru her gut-wrenching dilemma of having another baby for Maya and Rick?
How many times does Brooke & Bill dream about their romance which includes the balloon ride? How many times has Steffy been shown walking toward Liam in her gown and cowboy boots? Oh yeah, let’s not forget about the Quinn and Eric flashbacks. You can easily not watch it for a month or more and not miss much but the same repeated nonsense. All the soaps I have watched over the years, none has ever used used so many flashbacks as a waste of not using new dialogue in the show.

I’m with you. If I see Steffie in her wedding gown one more time I will be screaming from kingdom come. The flashbacks are such a waste. They have so many wonderful actors on that show that they push aside to show the same pointless nonsense with the same couples. I loved when Maya’s family was introduced. The change was so welcomed. Would love to seecmore of Caroline with the baby, and Thomas. Maya’s baby is barely out of the womb, they really have nerve to as Nicole to do it again. Give the girl a chance to give her body a chance to recuperate. And Brooke is never going to be happy unless she is with a man. Although I thought it was a stunning gown, I had a hard time keeping a straight face at seeing Brooke of all people wearing a white gown. To me right now, the only saving grace right now is the Eric and Quinn storyline. I want to see how it plays out. If I were Eric, I would kick all of those money grubbers to the curb. He doesn’t owe them a thing. Talk about a bunch of spoiled whiners!!

soapqueenforever…A-M-E-N!!!!! More and more, Ridge works my nerves THE MOST!!!!! At this point, Ridge is nothing but an out of control, bullying and arrogant CAVEMAN…BEYOND BLECH!!!!! GIMME A BREAK ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!

Have a good one.

You are absolutely right about the flashbacks. How many times have we seen Ridge fall out of the helicopter. Even when they were guests on the Talk they showed that clip. Or Steffy and Liam’s wedding.
. For a 1/2 hour soap there should be no flashbacks.

In agree with you with the same lame and tired flashback segments and what I see at the beginning of Monday Nov 7, 2016 show, flash backs of Liam and Steffy as well as Zende and Sasha. They are running out of stuff to write for B&B characters and have to use flash back stuff for fillers as well as they have to revert back to storylines they have already been their and did.

As I always say the beginning of the end of soaps are soon to be on their way and if not all B&B might be the first of the last 4 to go.

No B&B makes too much money overseas for them to canned it– they love it in other countries– the first soap of the last four soaps to go with be Days

I agree—the flash backs get old–the ones of Brooke & Bill and Eric and Quinn. I ‘m sorry, but I could watch Steffy & Liam all day

OMG they are so boring. In fact I can’t name one of the young couples that I want to watch for even 30 minutes. Eric and Quinn right now are the most interesting, and Bill and any woman is fun to watch, when he’s not acting like a jerk. No wonder they are talking about cancelling in 2017.

I love B&B. The only complaint is that the show is not an hour long so we could see more of the characters. Scott is exactly right. I know some people are for Liam, others for Wyatt. Some are for Quinn/Eric, while others hate it. Same for Bill/Brooke. But, the show is consistent with giving each character depth, especially Katie and Quinn. I look forward to watching every day. Katherine Kelly Lang and Heather Tom are amazing.

Successful? Are you kidding me? At least 90% of the comments I read online are NEGATIVE regarding the horrible “triangels'” and “quadrangle”!!!!!! I’d love to know the percentage of viewers that actually like these ridiculous, repetitive storylines!

Lol @scottclifton delusional much? I thought Quinn just did a number on only your character…obvious break from reality.

He is so wrong. If it wasn’t for the Quinn and Eric story I would be done with BB. I started watching when my ABC soaps were cancelled. Any more rinse/repeat/rinse love triangles and I am just about to call it quits with Bold and the Beautiful

I to would take a break if not for Eric and Quinn. And I have been a viewer on and off since day one.

I agree. I think they can only afford a small cast and have to keep using these same people over and over and showing these flashbacks every time someone has a thought in their head probably saves money too. I read that Ronn Moss asked Bill Bradley not (of all the nerve) to recast Ridge. I still think it was very pompous of him , but maybe he was right, because as much as I loved this Ridge, can’t think of his name right now, on AMC, I now feel he isn’t right for the role. He’s too gruff and unkempt and is just not Ridge, but a whole new character. If that’s what they intended, it worked, but has not made too many fans happy.

old days finagled were great now days who cares

I stopped watching. Same thing over and over. Brookso needy stupid smiles. Ridge a bully. Bill ego maniac. Stephie, all knowing. Liam too gowqodie. The whole Rick and Maya, etc.. So over it.

I agree with that

i agree too. i stopped watching it too. steffy had wyatt then she left him for liam again. and now she’s with liam again. quinn should stay out of this. and stop trying to get wyatt and steffy back together. steffy left wyatt because of quinn. wyatt should get his own girlfriends without quinn helping him. she babies wyatt alot if he doesn’t get the girl he wants he crys to his mom. liam should just go with ivy.

I’m tired of these love triangles as well, Let’s see… Who is married on the show? Rick and Maya, Eric and She devil ( Quinn).. Steffy and Wyatt is headed for divorce, and that’s it with a whole lot of infidelity to top it off…. B&B has a whole lot of sharing going on, and personally I’m tired of it… These are the same stories for all the characters, they don’t even have to run lines, because the stupid roles have already been played out writers, somebody need to hold a couple of job fairs, for new writers, because the ones that you have needs to fired. They can’t even think of new stories for these characters…. It’s pitiful writing at its worst…. Just saying!!

me too . i don’t watch it because of the love triangles and the drama between wyatt and quinn and steffy. she should just got back with wyatt and let liam move on with ivy. i think liam and ivy should be togther so won’t have to be in the drama between wyatt and quinn and steffy. leave liam alone and let him move on from you with ivy. give quinn what she wants. you and her son . steffy and liam had a long history together that was in the past . let the past go. move on from liam with wyatt . u married wyatt because u loved him steffy. in my opion u steffy should be with wyatt .

Please give us some better storylines us old soap watchers have seen these same scences repeated with different people. Although i will still watch, just fast forward the scene s i ihave seen over and over.

I have been fast forwarding through most episodes these days as you can pretty much tell what is coming out of everyone’s mouths and everything is so predictable. I am enjoying the Quinn and Eric story but everything else seems so repetitive. Looking forward to some new and exciting story lines that don’t involve the triangles.

I am agreeing with the not keeping a couple together for more than a week is getting tiresome. Brook/Ridge is so outdated. They are friends. Leave it there.

Love that Nicole changed her mind.
Quinn and Eric? Hmmmm

LOL– is there any story on this show not based on a triangle– even the corporate stuff is all triangles — who should Eric put in charge Ridge or Rick? — who should run the company now that Eric is on leave– Quinn or Ridge? Who should Nicole put first Zende or Maya— I think it is the only soap formula poor Brad knows how to write—

I only like romance triangles when as a viewer I am equally torn between the two choices– but with B&B the triangles are done to death, and characters go back and forth so many times that I stopped caring. Both Liam and Wyatt should grow a pair and tell Steffy to take a hike, she ain’t worth it guys— right now Liamt has “won” but give it enough time Steffy with be with Wyatt again– or Hope will come back and Liam will drop Steffy to be with Hope— and the fact Brad is trying to create a love triangle between Brooke/Bill and Ridge is beyond laughable— B&B is the soap version of junk food– a little at a time is okay, but a steady meal of it will make you ill..– which is why I never watch this show everyday

I agree with you. Its getting boring.

I can’t get on the Ridge/Brooke/Bill triangle. There is huge chemistry between Brooke and Bill. No chemistry between Brooke and Ridge. Ridge always looks like he’s living under the 105 flyover. Wears the same clothes, never shaves, never washes his greasy hair which looks like it was cut by another homeless person with a dull knife.
I love Liam and Steffy. Do not like Wyatt anymore – hook him up the Aussie from down under. I’m tired of the Rick and Maya storyline – the surrogate storyline is awful. Bring Amber back – Rick and Amber sizzled. Recast Ridge and bring back Taylor. I prefer Bill and Katie.
Worst couple – Eric and Quinn

What a good idea about Amber! Bring her back, yes. Seeing as how they love triangles so much, it might be fun to see her try to split Ric and Myah up. Love it!

Triangles… the same ones over and over again.. are the reason I quit watching this soap. B O R I N G

I am backing off this show recently for the reasons Scott thinks it is successful! Maybe it worked for awhile, but now it’s just too much of the same old same old. The characters are too narcissistic and lacking in morals. I wish they had not done the second go round if Nicole, Zende and Sacha. I think I am done with this now !!

Liem and Stephy, Eric and Quinn, Thomas and Shasha, Brook and whoever, need I say more?

What a load of crap. B&B started to slowly die the day Liam arrived and the show started to revolve around his love triangles, I don’t care about 90% of this show anymore. If they were really paying attention to fans on social media, Scott would’ve been off the show years ago and the triangles would be long ago ended.

I don’t mind the triangles, but I have to agree with the poster who thought the writers should let coupled up be happy for more than a couple of weeks. Why can’t Steffy & Liam be the “power couple”?? Maya & Rick are absolutely horrible human beings, never having to answer for anything they’ve done. I am a die-hard fan of Liam & Steffy. I read the daily re-caps, and if they are not in it, I skip it. Brooke,Katie, and Bill— in my opinion that is disgusting, and I have no interest in that triangle.
They are sisters, and your sisters husband or ex-husband is just morally wrong. When a new couple comes on, then the writers mess it up. Deacon & Quinn were perfect together. There were no surprises–they knew the worst & the best of each other
and accepted each other. What in the cows hill happened to the sweet romance between Ridge & Caroline?? It is crazy. Everyone knows Steffy & Liam are soul mates. They always come back together. Steffy came from Paris to reunite with Liam. Let them be happy for awhile. Maya and Rick are the only happy couple, and they deserve it the least.

Triangles are a proven soap staple and more soaps should utilize them to maximum effect. That said, B&B overdoses on the triangle formula and for me never plays them to maximum effect (the object of everyone’s affection just ping-pongs back and forth between their two suitors and never settles long enough for you to invest in either coupling).

B&B lost its appeal for me the second Sheila Carter left town for the last time (every soap needs a bad girl to stir the pot — another soap staple that all the current shows seem to have forgotten).

That’s why I said above to bring Amber back, she’s always good for stirring the pot, and where is Deacon when you need him?

They mentioned Deacon on Y&R and said he left L.A. for some reason, makes me wonder what’s going on. I would love to see Amber start a rival fashion house.

Are you kidding me?!?!? I don’t think that that Scott Clifton dude has a CLUE as to how love triangles WORK on a soap PERIOD!!!!! Example: At this point, his B&B character (Liam) is nothing but an annoying and lovesick CHEESEHEAD!!!!! And that Liam/Steffy/Wyatt CRAP-FEST of a love triangle is EVEN WORSE!!!!! NO, NO AND MORE N-O!!!!!

Later.

I’m glad I don’t even have to write what I think because most of you feel the same way I do. I can’t stand ANY of the triangles that Liam is in and while I love Scott Clifton, I adored Hope and Liam together but that was constantly interrupted by Quinn, Wyatt, Ivy, and Steffy so that in the end they were never happy. As a result I’m no longer invested in Liam as a character because seeing him with Steffy is just ill gotten gains on her part. They keep showing her getting married to him and ignoring the part where she had Bill trap Hope on a gondola while Liam and Steffy got married, or Hope marrying that dunderhead Wyatt because Liam was two seconds late in Paris, or Hope and Liam getting married in Mexico in a wedding so beautiful in still makes me cry, and the marriage never being made legal because of Hope’s stupid whining about Steffy. They tried to use the younger generation to imitate the Brooke/Ridge/Taylor triangle which worked because it unfolded slowly and you could see why he loved both of them, and I loved Brooke and Taylor too (I just love Brooke more though;), so you could root for each side. The new generation lacks any subtlety or substance so I can’t care because I never fully liked Steffy unless she was with Bill, because he was on her level, even though he too was stolen from Katie. It’s hard to like this show period when they focus on stupid characters like Quinn and put her with Eric and no one in the universe asked for that. Yet when I beg to see characters I miss like Thorne, Taylor, Donna, Amber, Deacon, Bridget and Jackie, they are either never shown or mentioned or they show them for two seconds and they disappear. Donna was there for Brooke’s wedding after being missing for a year and a half for no good reason, pops up again and now KATIE is in a triangle with Eric and Quinn and not Donna? Wtf? That is why I don’t watch the show as passionately as I used to watch the show. I have enough disappointment in this last election that I don’t have to add on my favorite shows being unwatchable.

Please Writer leave Eric and Quinn together and let’s start Putting people together for more then 3 weeks and let’s stop The love triangle Between Sasha and Nichole

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Elizabeth MacRae, ‘General Hospital’s’ Meg Baldwin, Passes Away at 88

Veteran actress, Elizabeth MacRae best-known as the third Meg Baldwin on General Hospital and as Gomer Pyle’s girlfriend, Lou-An Ann Poovie, in Gomer Pyle, U.S.M.C has died at the age of 88. MacRae passed away in Fayetteville, North Carolina, where she grew up.

On General Hospital, Elizabeth played Meg Baldwin who had a young son, Scott (Kin Shriner) from a previous relationship and who married Lee Baldwin (Peter Hansen). The role was originated by Patricia Breslin from 1965-1969. Breslin was temporarily replaced by Jan Shepherd for three weeks in the summer of 1967. MacRae took over the part from Breslin full time from 1969-70 and again from 1972-73.

In story, the character of Meg suffered a nervous breakdown and Lee had her committed to an institution. In 1971, Meg was released and came home, but suffered from severe hypertension. In 1973, Dr Lesley Webber was assigned to her case. Meg became jealous of Lesley and began to think that she was trying to get to have sex with Lee. During an argument with Lee, Meg died of a stroke and soon after Lee adopted Scott.

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MacRae also appeared on other notable soaps, having roles on Another WorldDays of Our LivesGuiding Light, and Search for Tomorrow.  Elizabeth’s career spanned over two and half decades having also appeared in classic TV shows and countless movies such as: Route 66Surfside 6RendezvousThe FugitiveJudd for the DefenseGunsmokeBonanzaI Dream of Jeannie, and The Andy Griffith Show.

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She is survived by five stepchildren, Terry Halsey, Peter Halsey, Hugh Halsey, Cate Halsey, and Alex Halsey Topper.

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Circle this Friday, May 31st when the first new script from Carlivati and company will stream on the Peacock soap opera. If you recall, Carlivati had to step away from the writing gig at DAYS due to the writer’s strike, but because the soap tapes at least seven months ahead of air, it is only now that fans will see how the stories shift or finish out that were started by Carlivati.

According to Ron’s conversation with TV Insider, when Carlivati and his team resumed writing the show in late October of 2023, the stories were already written well into 2024. Carlivati explained, “For me, as of us talking right now, the (replacement writers’ material) is still airing, so that has been very tough. I’m just very anxious and eager for our stuff to start airing again.”

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Ron explained before the writer’s strike, he and his scribes had written up through the 2023 Thanksgiving episodes. Speaking on how the replacement writers tried to handle stepping in for the regular team, Ron expressed, “I think what they tried to do was move things slowly in the hopes that the strike would end and respect where my storylines were so that I could play them off when we came back. Unfortunately, the strike dragged on, so I understand that the show needed to make story decisions.”

The award-winning writer made clear that, “from January to May (2024), those were not my stories. I had nothing to do with those.”

Having lived through a writer’s strike before (when he was at One Life to Live in 2008), Carlivati explained how he dealt with coming back and adjusting the stories including that the plan was to, “blow things up, jettison anything that I did not like, and get back to a show that I understand and can enjoy and tell. ”

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Look for a Carlivati-style ‘wink-wink’ on Friday’s episode. As he puts it, “I did want to make it clear that this was the line of demarcation, that the writers were back and there was a change happening. We have a little nod or two to what was going on in the first day and I think it will be very obvious and clear to the savvy viewer. Luckily, story-wise, certain things were coming to a head already.”

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Stay tuned for how Ron resolves a Sloan and Nicole showdown, how Eric will find out he is Jude’s true baby daddy, what happens when the new Gabi returns from Salem from out of the slammer, the Maggie/Konstantin wedding, payback time for Theresa and more.

In addition, and as previously reported, when Carlivati returned, he crafted the series 15,000th episode which is set to air in early December, and will also pay tribute to the late Bill Hayes with the passing of his on-screen beloved character, Doug Williams.

So, glad to know Ron and his team’s material will start to reveal itself this Friday and moving forward on DAYS? Comment below.

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The Los Angeles police department is ramping up its search for to the whereabouts of the three thieves, who got away after one fatally shot former General Hospital cast member, Johnny Wactor (ex-Brando Corbin) in the early morning hours of Saturday, May 26th in downtown Los Angeles.

Law enforcement sources told the LA Times that police are trying to pull fingerprints from Wactor’s vehicle and are looking for video from the area. They also are checking to see whether there are any connections to other nearby catalytic converter thefts.

The thieves were attempting to steal the catalytic converter from Wactor’s car at the time of his death. Sadly, the LAPD investigators shared they have seen an uptick in violence when these types of thieves are confronted.

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Catalytic converters contain precious metals in which thieves can make hundreds of dollars selling them to auto parts suppliers or scrap yards, where they can be melted down and the valuable metals extracted.

In addition, on Tuesday May 28th, the LAPD shared more on the incident that took Wactor’s life, stating, “Without provocation, the victim was shot by one of the individuals. The three suspects involved were wearing all dark clothing and driving a dark-colored sedan. The suspects fled northbound on Hope Street. Central Bureau Homicide is investigating this case and is requesting the public’s help.”

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If you have tip: y0u are urged to call LAPD Detectives Gonzales or Martinez at Central Bureau Homicide, at (213) 996-4142. During non-business hours or on weekends, calls should be directed to (877) LAPD-24-7 (877-527-3247).

In addition, Anyone wishing to remain anonymous should call the LA Regional Crime Stoppers at (800) 222-TIPS (800-222-8477) or go to http://www.lacrimestoppers.org.

Wactor played General Hospital’s Brando Corbin from 2020 to 2022. According to the LA Times, “Wactor recently had been exploring opportunities in screenwriting while working as a bartender.”

Share your thoughts on this developing story as the LAPD tries to seek justice for the death of Johnny Wactor via the comment section below.

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