The Young and the Restless
Y&R’s Jermaine Rivers Sounds Off on Toxic and ‘Mean-Spirited’ Fans, and Asks, “What Happened to Watching Soaps For the Love of It?”
Jermaine Rivers (Damian, The Young and the Restless) has a point and a serious question to ponder, “What happened to watching soaps for the love of it?” We all have been privy to some fans who take to social media and use it as a platform to just spew negativity, and to take it to the extreme, as opposed to those who may offer up constructive criticism.
For Rivers, who debuted on the top-rated soap opera as Damian Kane back in February of this year, being on a daytime drama comes with some things that take getting used to, including: reading threads of sometimes venomous comments on social media, about you, your show, your castmates or other shows, and the genre as a whole.
On Tuesday, Jermaine took to his account on X and shared his sentiments, explaining his take on the situation: “I’m convinced that most (Not all) of today’s so called soap fans are far removed from the sweet old ladies who watched it back in the 70’s 80’s and 90’s. The internet has created some Straight Savages who are mean spirited and tune in to just complain about the show’s they watch. What happened to watching Soaps for the love of it? Why are Y’all so mad, hateful and triggered for?”
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As fans joined in the thread with their comments on Rivers initial post, one wrote, “To be fair, lets put some of this on the shows esp, Bold who’s given us much to complain about. When the shows are good we praise them.”
Jermaine replied, “It comes down to Emotional Intelligence… if someone gets triggered by watching a Soap there’s a deeper problem that’s not being addressed in their personal life. It’s clearly evidence of some unhealed trauma that the viewer hasn’t worked through. Let’s not place blame on a fictional TV character or storyline that’s being played out for entertainment purposes as an excuse for toxic behavior. We’re not dodging accountability over here!”
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Later, soap fan, Stini the Great responded, “I blame social media. It allows a person to hide behind a keyboard (or phone) and say things that they would never dare to say to someone’s face.” To which Rivers, replied, “Bingo” with an accompanying applause gif.
Later, Rivers qualified that the reason he took to X to air his grievance with the online haters is not about hate he may or may not be receiving about the pairing of Damian and Lily. Rivers responded, “I’m not talking about me… I rarely look at the comments and when I do I shrug it off. But looking across the board … the stuff that I’m seeing online about all Soaps in general is just nasty work. There’s a lot of toxicity out there.”
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After his initial comments and the remarks made by fans in his thread, Rivers concluded and posted, “Love the fact that we can all have an open, honest and respectful discussion. This is what Social Media is supposed to look like.”
So, what do you think of the point Jermaine is making? Do we all need to go back and remember why we watched soaps in the first place? Is there too much negativity towards the shows and its cast members? Share your thoughts via the comment section.
I’m convinced that most (Not all) of today’s so called soap fans are far removed from the sweet old ladies who watched it back in the 70’s 80’s and 90’s. The internet has created some Straight Savages who are mean spirited and tune in to just complain about the show’s they…
— Jermaine Rivers (@JermaineRivers) July 1, 2025
Hey, I am beginning to like the character and I can see him with Lily. He can hold his own and I think can exist outside of the Dumas/Cane storyline. The brother is handsome and has a strong personality. I loved it when he put Audra on notice! I hope he is not one of the victims in the coming week/weeks.
I agree. I took a disliking to him when he was so harsh with his mom and Nate at the beginning. I also did not like the way he seemed to almost leer at Lily from glance one.
From those inauspicious beginnings, the actor has slowly won me over. He’s very good and I am now enjoying the character as well. I can see Damien with Lily as well, he is quite handsome. Damien and Lily would be beautiful paired together.
I must say however, that I do have a soft spot for OG Lane. It will be interesting to see how it plays out.
There are too many miserable people who only get joy when they can bring others down.
Oh please, fans are allowed to express their opinions. Treating fans like this actor does it. No but seriously, he thinks he’s who. What would happen it if fans stopped to watch ? And of course that comes from a newbie. Actors portraying longtime characters never would act like that. No they even like & retweet our posts. They understand our feelings because they know the show is bad. We don’t blame the actors, we blame the writing. Fans aren’t forced to love the characters or everything they make or every storyline.
Fans should always express their opinions but far too many behave as though they cannot distinguish between a scripted series and reality. So many mean spirited comments are targeted at the actors when they are simply doing a job like anyone else. I understand fans being invested but that doesn’t give license to be cruel or inconsiderate. It’s as if soap viewing causes some fans misery and if that’s the case they need to seek entertainment elsewhere.
A M E N!!! You hit the nail on the head.
But too many fans express their opinions disrespectfully. That’s the problem. People have forgotten to be civil and that actors and, yes, the writers are also human beings with feelings.
Agreed, SonniOrSolita (and yes, I’ve been around to get the reference, ha! good for you!). I’m going to be civil and respectful, or try to be, anyway, but I’m also going to tell the truth. I’ve been watching soaps since the mid-1970s, and most of what’s being put on the air today is far inferior to what we were seeing back in the 70s, 80s, and even the 90s (though the decline in storytelling quality had begun by the middle of that decade). Maybe those “sweet old ladies” (not-so-sweet old man here, but I was a young and middle-aged man watching back then, and I take a little umbrage at his characterization of the audience, which wasn’t entirely female–plus, unless he’s much older than he looks, he wasn’t even alive in the 70s or much of the 80s, so I’m not sure how he’d know) were sweet old ladies because what they were watching didn’t give them so much to be cranky about. The real decline in quality began about the time the internet became accessible to a wider group, so it’s hard to say which caused which; I think it’s true that the anonymity of the internet brings out the super-nasty side of some people, and that’s been appalling to see, but I think it’s also true that the internet started letting previously isolated soap viewers compare notes and realize that, hey, “I’m not the only one who thinks what I’m seeing on my screen is crap compared to a few years ago.” So those “sweet old ladies” might not have been so sweet by the 2000s, regardless. Beyond the Gates is restoring my faith that good soap CAN be made in today’s environment, but that has the corollary effect of making me wonder–AGAIN–why the other four shows have storytelling styles that range from uneven, at best, to absolutely awful. I don’t blame the writers; I suspect they’re doing the best they can to deal with what the networks dictate (as well as doing their best to get hired on BTG, if they’re smart). I don’t blame the actors, who, as others have noted, are just trying to make the scripts work (with even less rehearsal time, apparently, than they used to get).
I think it’s worth pointing out, however, that sometimes, even if you’re civil and respectful in the way you express yourself, sometimes the truth is going to hurt. There are tons of talented actors on the soaps, but there are some genuinely bad ones as well, and I’m not going to pretend otherwise when a show hands a big storyline to an actor who’s not remotely capable of carrying it or when somebody clearly starts phoning it in (though I do have some sympathy for the latter). I think most of the writers are much better than they get credit for, but I’m also not going to pretend otherwise when what I see on the screen isn’t working at any level or when a show’s or character’s history has been so badly violated that I’m looking at my TV and thinking, “This can’t be happening. She’d never say that, she’d never do that” or “Wait a minute; that isn’t what happened” or just plain out “WTF?” I can do a better job of not being quite so blunt sometimes, and I work on that; there are multiple ways to say the same thing, and some of them are softer than others but make the same point less stridently. But even without some of the outrageous nastiness I see in some of the comments, some of what needs to be said simply isn’t pretty or pleasant. “Watching soaps for the love of it” is hard when there’s not nearly as much to love as there used to be, especially if you’re in my position, you’ve watched them for years and you KNOW they can be considerably better than they currently are.
Like a lot of “oldies”, I started watching daytime dramas around 1980 with my mom (who swears she never watched…okay mom, I know better). The shows were very well done back in those days. I was mainly a CBS viewer: Capitol, ATWT, Guiding Light, Y&R and Bold. I would catch a little of some of the other shows when they had storylines about the LGBT community and stories about HIV/AIDS (after all, I’m gay). Slowly, a lot of the older shows were dropping like flies. Watched the series finales for Capitol, the beginning of Bold and the ends of GL and ATWT. I kept on watching Y&R and Bold until Brad Bell at Bold did the unthinkable….he fired Krista Allen from her role as Taylor. That was when I stopped watching Bold for good. I don’t know why he felt that it was necessary to fire her (she was doing a great job I might add), although rumors and gossip was basically saying that Katherine Kelly Lang (Brooke) told Brad to get rid of her. Whether or not that’s true, who knows. Then, practically a year after KA was let go, her comes her replacement Rebecca Budig! I mean seriously!? She is way too young for that role. I still refuse to watch Bold.
Then along came a brand new daytime drama in the form of Beyond The Gates, the brain child of Michele Val Jean!! After finding out was being cast on the show, I was like….yessss mama! I’m here for it! What took me completely by surprise was the network was more than ready to back a new show that ALSO had the blessing P & G and the NAACP! I was hooked from second 1! Haven’t missed an episode!!
I do agree 100% with Jermaine Rivers and the personal attacks that some of his cast members are getting and attacks that were uncalled for. These are human beings who are playing characters and saying dialogue that is questionable at best.
Now, let us all stop being cruel to the actors….PLEASE! It’s not their fault that the writing is bad (looking at you Brad Bell and Josh Griffith). Let just enjoy the show(s). Because we never should take them for granted….they’re on our screens one minute and gone the next.
agree.
Well said. He speaks out of insecurity. He knows he is too old for this role and not a sexy bone in his body. Wrong character role. As I have sad many sites ago. He is almost as old as his mother. He does not turn my head.—Holden fits this role to the max. He is fire. . ❤️
Damian’s arrival in GC is a very good thing. Jermaine’s portrayal has a similar essence to when Neil arrived, though not saying anything about him replacing KSJ. I think his arrival is finally moving the Younger of YandR generation forward. He’s grounding yet complex. This character is developing nicely, and yes, he will be a good choice for Lily.
I’d like to see Sally end up with the “new” Cane – I fully see Courtney Hope and Billy Flynn rocking that combo.
And it seems that Chance will probably be the one departing to the heavens since Connor is taking over the DOOL role of Chad DiMero that Flynn left.
I just want to see some on-screen chemistry – not so interested in all of the business sellings and acquisitions.
Agreed with everything you ve mentioned! Hes given the Winters a worthy male head of the fam. Devon wasnt cutting it. Jermaine s been a excellent invaluable addition since the moment he arrived with an attitude, charm and some real acting chops!
I hope he and Lily become a solid couple!
Good for him. Too many soap message boards are full of people making nasty comments and arguing savagely over fictional characters. If you’re full of that much hatred, find another outlet to vent!
Nothing to do with hate, but everything to do with opinion—-Seems to me YOU are expressing hate. This is an opinion piece—If you don’t like it, don’t read it. I can express whether I think this actor fits the role. He definitely does not. It is my truth and you do not have to like it.
Fortunately, I have not seen the nasty comments and don’t want to. People should not be saying nasty stuff. I don’t always enjoy the stories or actors or characters, but I like my soaps overall.
Sorry, but calling/insinuating “most” mentally ill was a poor choice of words. It really was. The concept of what he’s talking about rings true… but his execution was entirely too poor and leaves a poor taste in my mouth.
Saying that someone lacks emotional intelligence is not the same as saying they are mentally ill. You are putting words into his mouth and might want to re-read that statement again.
This started with “participation trophies”. Everyone being coddled to. Now when things don’t go the way they want, they throw a temper tantrum to get their “trophy”. Add that to social media allowing people to have no filter (or decency) in the name of free speech and it has all gone crazy!
I’ve watched Y&R since it’s inception in the 70’s. As I’m getting closer to retirement, I have a little more time to record or watch online to see what’s happening in Genoa City. I remember the days they left you with a cliffhanger on Friday, and you couldn’t wait til Monday. Not just Y&R, but mostly all of the soaps were written so much better years ago. We got hooked on soaps not because it was something to watch on tv, but because the writing was so good. The script writers knew what they were doing. People tuned in.
The networks (at least CBS) seems to have little interest in improving the products because in the world of daytime, they are still number 1. But the writing has suffered, especially on Y&R. Story lines start and stop on a dime, some with no resolutions. Having the same person be the Executive Producer AND Head Writer is a big mistake. I always hope Y&R gets better. The actors are top notch. But they are only as good as the material they are given, and frankly, the material over the last few seasons has been mediocre at best. Sorry if those of us who complain bother some posters, but we really do care about the QUALITY of the show, and it’s severely lacking. The fact that Y&R brought in a new wardrobe person to spruce up the actors is good, but it doesn’t solve the problem with poor story telling.
Michael did you forget your interview with Jeanne Cooper? It was on July 26, 2012.
This is what she said:
When there was the ‘Who Killed Phillip?’ storyline and our characters were in court, and being thrown about, a faction of fans lined up at CBS with posters marching, and this group flew in from the east coast. And they were pro- Brenda (Jill). Then, I in turn said to her, ‘Well all these people must have gotten pregnant by someone else’s husband.’ They had to get us out of the studio because we had death threats! They would say that I or she ‘deserved to die.’ Oh, the studio was very quiet about that, and they had police stand there. It was wild!”
Viewers were like this from day one! They were flying across the country and threatening actors and protesting stories in person. It’s no worse now. Social media
I tend to be patient when my soaps enter a period of lackluster writing. It helps that the acting on the shows is almost uniformly excellent. When you consider the tremendous pressure and workload that is presented by preparing more than 250 fresh hours (mostly) of drama each year, it’s truly remarkable that these shows ever achieve aspired heights. That said, while I deplore attacks on specific actors, I think that it’s useful for the producers of these shows to have a way to monitor how their stories are impacting their fans and allow for adjustments. There is tremendous value in constructive criticism, and I urge my fellow fans to focus on that.
Maybe, it’s because you are in the wrong role, sir—I , for one, do not question your performance. I question TPTB trying to couple you with Lily—no tension, no sexiness—Holden would have been a better choice. My opinion.
Not a good look when you bite the hand that feeds you. He makes some good points, but don’t attack your customer base!
Previews
‘The Young and the Restless’: New Co-Head Writers Talk Drama, Romance, and Intrigue Ahead in Genoa City on the Eve of Their Debut Script
Tomorrow on Wednesday, November 11 will mark the airing og the highly-anticipated first material and script from the new co-head writing team at The Young and the Restless, Jamey Giddens and Dan O’Connor.
The scribes will mark a turning point on Y&R after Josh Griffith was head writing the show since 2019. Now, they shared a look into their storyline plans with TV Insider ahead of the big day!
Let’s walk you through some of their thoughts on the key characters and their future in Genoa City.
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First, the steamy romance of Victoria and Kyle
Jamey Giddens explained, “This show has such a great history of these larger-than-life dynasties that are intertwined, and we also inherited this amazingly juicy, salacious story with Victoria (Amelia Heinle) and Kyle’s (Michael Mealor) affair. One of the things we wanted to look at is, ‘Well, how do we deepen those stakes?’ They are in the throes of this fun, frolicky, romp, but this could really be bad for these two if his uncle (Billy), who was her ex-husband, finds out about this.”
He continued, “We really wanted to harken back a little bit to the fact that Victoria experienced these things with Nikki and Cole (J. Eddie Peck). They battled over a man, and it’s like history repeating itself. And even though Claire (Hayley Erin) and Kyle are not currently romantically involved, no young woman’s going to want to find out that her mother is with her first love.” O’Connor added, “And Claire will be justified in having an opinion about that.”
Speaking of Claire, look for her and Audra (Zuleyka Silver) to go at it in the old-school style of Katherine and Jill!
Giddens shared, “They are kind of giving us our young adult Kay versus Jill rivalry. Seeing what Josh Griffith had set up, we were like, ‘Ooh, we like this.’ So, we really ratchet up the tension of these two women goading each other until one of them goads the other one a little too far, and it becomes a full-blown war that will cross from the boardrooms to their bedrooms. We see them as a really good next-generation Young and the Restless rivalry.”
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Next, Sharon, Nick, Matt, Phyllis
“Matt Clark (Roger Howarth) has traumatized this trio in very different ways,” shared Giddens. “By the time we started writing it, the audience doesn’t know what Nick (Joshua Morrow) did to neutralize that threat. And the mystery of that is really going to unite Phyllis (Michelle Stafford) and Sharon (Sharon Case) in a way that they’ve never been united before. There’s going to be a reckoning of sorts in terms of how Phyllis realizes just what Matt put Sharon through all of those years ago, and it’s going to reset the tone of the story a little bit.”
Dan O’Connor added that it appears Phyllis and Sharon might be Thelma and Louise-ing it? “Phyllis and Sharon are on a quest together, and the ultimate destination of that quest leads to a lot of surprises and maybe a few familiar faces popping by.”
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Then, Billy, Sally Spectra, Adam, Chelsea
O’Connor stated, “Ever since Adam helped deliver Sally’s baby, it has reignited the connection that the two of them have. But at the same time, Adam and Chelsea are in the throes of another corporate battle at Newman Media that’s going to have a surprising player mixed into it. And Sally is in the midst of figuring out how to deal with Billy’s hunger for Chancellor Industries. He promised that he would table all of this until after the baby was born, but now, the baby is born. And where does that leave their relationship and their marriage now that Billy is back on the hunt?”
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Newbie, Dr. Andrew Bishop
“He’s a bit Dr. House-esque in terms of his bedside manner and any fantasy Nate (Sean Dominic) had of returning to medicine, and it’s going to be easy, think again, shared Giddens. Apparently, “Dr. Bishop (Fareed Ward) is here to thwart those dreams.
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Changes ahead for Abby, Roxanne and Devon
We already know something is wrong health-wise with Abby Newman, but what? Meanwhile, Devon’s first love, Roxanne come back to Genoa City! Giddens teased, “We’re excited about this new actor, Tetona Jackson. She’s amazing. Dan came up with the idea to bring Roxanne back, and I fell in love with it immediately. Devon dumped her because he thought she was a gold digger because he had just inherited Katherine’s money. So, what if that inspired her to go become a self-made woman?”
Roxanne’s arrival complicates the relationship with Devon, but also will open up more drama between Jack and Victor. “Another little wrinkle to this is we really wanted to weave Abby back into the fabric in that she’s a Newman and an Abbott. And that was something that Mr. Bergman and Mr. Braeden, when they spoke to us, they were like, ‘We really would love to play more with Abby. She’s connected to both families.”
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Abbott Sisters
Could we be getting some Eileen Davidson in story? Dan O’Connor shared, “Ashley’s history of working in the Jabot lab is going to play a pivotal role in a storyline coming up very soon.” Meanwhile, Daytime Emmy winner, Beth Maitland (Traci) will have a story that, “returns Traci to her writer roots,
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Dan O’Connor offered up “As we go into 2027, there’s going to be a big event on New Year’s Eve that’ll bring the entire town together and it will kick off a bunch of different stories for everybody on the canvas. And we’re so excited for you to see what Sally McDonald (EP, Y&R) and our amazing directors and team put together.”
So after reviewing Jamey and Dan’s plans for some of the character on the Y&R canvas, what are your thoughts? Are you encouraged by what’s to come? What piques your interest the most? Let us know in the comment section.
On Tuesday, November 10, Matt Cohen (Detective Burrow, The Young and the Restless, and formerly Dr. Griffin Munro, General Hospital) stars in a new holiday rom-com alongside soap alum Brittany Underwood (ex-Langston Wilde, One Life to Live) in Christmas at the Zoo.
The holiday movie streams beginning today on Tubi. In story, an entrepreneur brokering a sponsorship for a zoo’s new Humboldt penguin habitat finds herself caught between business and romance after falling for a compassionate zookeeper during the holidays.
Cohen visited ABC 7 Chicago’s Windy City Weekend and chatted with hosts, Josh McBride and Val Wilmer about his role in the story which was filmed in Chicago at the famed Brookfield Zoo.
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FALLING FOR THE PENGUINS
“There are not a lot of rom-coms that have been told like this, almost entirely about the Brookfield Zoo,” explained Cohen. “And if you know anything about Chicago, the Brookfield Zoo holds it down. This is a zoo that truly cares about the animals. The caretakers are amazing. And this movie’s going to make you cry. It’s going to make you laugh.”
Matt expressed he was touched by the animals during the filming, especially the penguins! “I’m in the mix of a lot of penguins and I knew them all by name,” the actor shared proudly. “I’ve got a real way with the penguins that would surprise you. I became like a real zookeeper during this thing. It was wild. I got passionate about it.”
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DOES THIS ZOOKEEPER FIND LOVE?
Explaining the epicenter of the story, Cohen shared, “The premise is very simple, It’s a man that works at the zoo. He care very much about these animals. The female lead comes in, wants to change things for the animals to make more money, make more profit. That hurts my heart. I can’t let that happen. I got to protect them during that process. Maybe we fall in love or maybe we don’t. I don’t want to spoil this Christmas movie. But, it feels good because the animals are the center of this thing. ”
At the end of the day, the rom-com is all about love for the animals, and if his character finds love! “It’s the center of this love story. It’s about helping them, not ourselves,” explained Cohen. “So, if were you an animal lover before this movie? I am a dog lover, a cat lover. I never knew I was a penguin man. I am a penguin man. I love giraffes. I love people. Go to the zoo. It feels good.”
You can catch Matt’s conversation on Windy City Weekend below and the trailer for Christmas at the Zoo.
Now let us know, will you be checking the movie out and would you like to see Matt have a more prominent role in Genoa City under the new head writing regime at Y&R, or if not, join another soap? Weigh-in via the comment section.
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Y&R’s New Head Writers Share Vision for Genoa City: Contemporary Homage to Bill Bell, Mixing Heightened Escapism and Grounded Reality
The Young and the Restless has remained the top-rated daytime drama for 37 consecutive years and soon to be 38 as of the end of December. So, it’s no small order to be named the head writers of the soap with the pedigree of its legendary co-creator and head writer, William J. Bell.
Now with Josh Griffith’s final stories playing out, new head writers Jamey Giddens and Dan O’Connor’s scripts and material begin to air this Wednesday, November 11. As with any head writing regime, it takes time to get out of the previous regimes stories and on to yours, but the two gentlemen with a vast love of soap operas are patient and excited about their plans for Genoa City in the very near future.
Giddens, who was an double Emmy-nominee this year for his work on the writing teams of Beyond the Gates and Days of our Lives, and O’Connor who spent a number of years on the One Life to Live writing team, which eventually led him to a co-head writer position at General Hospital and later a stint at Days of our Lives, sat down for their first major interview with TV Insider to share some of their goals their vision for Genoa City.
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GET CHARACTERS OUT AND ABOUT
First order of business is they want the town to have a more community feel and characters to mix and mingle with others more.
Giddens explained, “Sometimes when new regimes come in, it’s such a jarring change. We wanted to lean into some of the stories that we really gravitated to and write the next chapters. We wanted to bring a community feel to the show and cross some characters that might not have been playing together, and make it feel like a town, get these characters out and about.” That sentiment was echoed by O’Connor who added, “Make Genoa City feel like a real place.”
THE YOUNG, RESTLESS, AND THE MODERN
Key to Jamey and Dan’s storytelling will be to give the show a modern feel, while still harkening back to the classic storytelling of Bill Bell. Giddens shared, “We want to really pay homage to what Mr. Bell did with a contemporary feel for this modern era that we live in and to keep these stories fresh and sexy and young and restless for many generations to come.”
But will Jamey and Dan’s Y&R be high camp? Tension-filled? Romantic with lots of danger and intrigue? Plenty of Big returns and new characters? Stay tuned.
The head scribes did explain, “We want people to be able to just escape for one hour a day into this fantastical world that you also can relate to. We want to bring it back to heightened escapism and a mixture of grounded reality. “
So, Y&R and soap fans, excited to hear Jamey and Dan’s story perspective as the number one soap moves forward in the coming months? What story would you love to see being told with any of the characters currently on the canvas that ids? Let us know your thoughts in the comment section.
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