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THIS WEEK ON GH: "The Whole Truth And Nothing But The Truth!"
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This whole thing makes no difference since he doesn’t remember anything so there is no full impact really. It would be different if he had his memory back as he would know the players and the reason the truth is so important.
A person he just met last year (Liz)lying to him really means nothing in the scheme of things. It would be a whole other story if a person (Liz) he has this huge history with did this. No history means no impact.
Right, clh. I don’t know what else to say that hasn’t already been said. What a stupid, useless scene. Exactly what did it accomplish? Oh, yeah…Jason is mulling over what Sam disclosed…chews on it, but he doesn’t swallow it. No surprise there. The twist would be if he remembered right then and there while asking Liz if what Sam said was true. BAM!! Hit him like ice-water. He should be INTERROGATING Liz!! Jason is such a wuss. I said it before and I’ll say it again. Might as well put on one of Liz’s skirts.
@Shay. Why, thank you, my lovely. If Nathan ever leaves I will go on a hunger strike for an entire meal. Ha! Yeah, Dante, the loverboy, is reverting back to his teen years, along with Sam and Liz. I only wish for him to come to a rude awakening when his hot blood simmers down; but, it’ll be too late. Say, Shay, lol….were Lulu and Johnny ever an item? What are the chances they will hook up? I don’t normally condone such payback behavior….but, just this once, I want Dante to get his. Ohhh, that would be grand. And, I… Read more »
@CeeCee…Sweets,,.Who wants to be in a relationship with a Manipulating, habitual liar… Whether he’s been with her short/ planned too be with Elizabeth long term she LIED BIG TIME. What he can remember is all the lies that led too this major coverup. She cajoled him repeatedly into leaving the past behind, that it was of NO importance it held no weight in the life they were building together in the here & now….Lies all Lies….Little Jake can attest to it…Laura held on to it out of love and loyalty….regretfully it has come to a head for Elizabeth, who committed… Read more »
@Fanny. Exactly, my sweet Fanny. We are in sync. I have been saying what you just said verbatim; and so have you. I could never continue living or trusting anyone where the relationship was built on a lie. I do not know women like that, but I’m sure they’re out there. And my experience with men is limited (just my husband), so, perhaps I am not the right person to speak on this. But, I know what’s right and what’s wrong. And, what Liz is doing is WRONG!! So, I do hope that the writers are able to make this… Read more »
finally somebody else gets it – i could not agree with you more!!!
i have been saying the same thing since day one – what difference is it going to make who knew what when if jason has no memory??
I really don’t follow your reasoning, with all due respect, elm51. In my opinion, it makes a life or death difference. I’m not sure to whom you are directing your comment, but if it is to myself, you have completely misinterpreted my message. Just because Jason does not remember his past, does not mean or imply to leave things status quo. If anyone, such as Liz, Nik, and now Laura and Hayden know something as crucial as Jason’s identity, then each has a moral obligation to tell him the truth. This part has nothing to do with Jason’s memory. It… Read more »
Maybe , Sonny will be the one to tell Jason who he really is…
I really want nu-Jason/Jake to stick around. I was so over mobster Jason ages ago, even while Steve Burton was playing him. Was hoping Jason’s brain tumor from years ago would return him to the sweet, pre-med Jason we used to know before his accident. This Jason is closer to that personality than mobster Jason. And Jason Q. was just as loyal and good a friend as Jason M. (so take that Carly).
I think it does matter, big time, even if Jason doesn’t remember. This woman was supposed to be St Liz to him. But to then find out “he had a huge history with” her in past life makes it a double betrayal.
Ch, of course it matters…regardless of whether Jason remembers his past. His entire relationship with Elizabeth has been based on lies, deceit, manipulation. She knew he had a wife and son, she knew Monica is his mother, she saw him every day tortured and confused as he struggled to shrug off his past. She tried to persuade him not to dig into his OWN LIFE…all so he wouldn’t leave her. She deceived him every day they were together since she found out the truth…and let him go on in the mystery of his own identity. And you think none of… Read more »
Well said Rebecca1!
Team Liason all the way. The chemistry between Becky and Billy is so magnetic.
Not really…. sorry to say! Chemistry seems forced to me.
I agree. I never saw the chemistry, beebee ( I’m CeeCee, now, all we need is deedee, lol). There is no passion. Liz gets little brotherly pecks. Do you remember when Hayden was pretending to be Jason’s wife? Yes, he did act somewhat standoffish, but there definitely was tension within that bed. I don’t think it was all due to the fact that they were complete strangers. I felt something. Perhaps if I say it often enough and long enough, the writers will get the hint and put them together. Besides, This Jason is honorable and found himself in a… Read more »
Zero chemistry !
I agree. I see no chemistry between them.
ITA, Billy and Becky are magic together! There hasn’t been such a romantic pairing on GH in ages. I think it’s mainly the way he only has eyes for her. The intensity, the romantic things he says (“you’re all I want, I’ve memorized your entire face, I don’t have a ring but I have my love for you” is all going to be ruined for me if he rejects Liz now and falls for Sam. I can’t root for a guy who was madly, DEEPLY in love one day and in love with someone else the next. At least I’ll… Read more »
I wouldn’t call a guy who woke up with no memory of himself, lost and confused…who possibly fell for Liz because she provided hearth and home when he didn’t know he already had one, fickle….when he finds out his heroine was actually manipulating, lying and plotting to keep him from finding out the truth…HIS truth. I’d say he was emotionally held hostage, unbeknownst to him. He’d be crazy to stay with her…not without some heavy duty therapy for Ms. Liszt.
Rebecca, if she’d been lying from the start, I’d agree with you. She wanted Jake LONG before she knew he was Jason. Jason was wrong when he said today that Liz was waffling between him and Ric and only chose him when she found out he was Jason. She chose Jake over Ric a few months before that, and they were about to make love. But then Hayden showed up, saying she was Jake’s wife. And Liz, thinking Jake was married, went back to Ric. When Carly exposed Ric’s lies and machinations, Liz was so excited, confessing to Nicholas she… Read more »
“correction… Lizzy
@Maddiehayes that is one of the – best – chronological posts; ever ! whew! I’ve been trying to intimate as such I realize that it may have been or built on lies ??? this is my perspective from a mans point of view “we” like romance just as much; we may never fully explain what that is… or even remark as such but it’s their; right in front of all of us and when it’s the truth! I think it’s all right their for he and she or for… any one who feels ——— point taken GH Writers; this is… Read more »
when the thread stated.. that Jason told Liz.. that she broke his heart that’s putting a humane spin on it for sure even amongst all the prodding and amnesia it’s still going to hurt all parties involved… ugh! my Liz will mend and find a way out of this and persevere, triumph, and hopefully… as i’ve posted… Liz is no longer the sweet put upon taken for granted stand back …. and shadow herself… with her boys this is the ultimate time for the GH writers to give Liz a backbone… and cull from her steely reserve and remain steadfast… Read more »
Maddie…none of that matters… Yes it’s true that Liz was falling for him before she knew his identity. That’s all well and good. Then…she DID know his identity. From that point on she had every moral obligation to tell him who he is. In real life any sane person would do so. You don’t live a lie lie that. To my mind there’s no debate. One can root for Liz and hole he forgives her, Shi h I petal.ally think would be just as ridiculous, but it’s a soap, so who knows… As for choosing.g Jake over Rick, let’s not… Read more »
Lol…and “hope” he forgives her…
I have no clue what the next sentence I wrote was…probably, “I think if he forgives her and stays with her that would be ridiculous”…I’d rather she forgive Rick!
thank you Patrick 🙂
Bottom line if you handed RH/Liz the phone book and told her to read it out loud she would have chemistry with it. She is that good of an actress every actor they throw at her she makes it work. I may not always agree with Liz’s choices but she sells it.
K/Kay, ITA. And Rebecca, just for the record, I was never a Jasam or Liason fan. I’ll admit I like Liz more than Sam, always have. But I never thought Jasam should break up. I hated John McBain coming between them, that was the stupidest thing! When “Jake” arrived in PC, I assumed he’d start reconnecting with Sam and Danny. I was surprised they went with Liz and Liz ONLY. I blame this whole fiasco on Carlivati wanting to stir up the Jasam/Liason war again. He was SUCH a troll, LOL. But I’m sad the new writers decided to continue… Read more »
“…See u next post… 🙂 ” too cute ie: bringing back Greg Vaughan to play Lucky… WOULD really up the ante and fire up everything! it’s as K/Kay says… Liz can read the phone book – she’s exquisite it’s nice to see johnny Z back in the fold… i wonder for how long? it certainly seems like Dante and Lulu are seriously done… Now, I truly see no way out of this one… Dante, my man! what have you “gone” and done ? watching Big Mac back on the scene w/Anna…. Magic he should be Anna sidekick…. just to see… Read more »
I always though (or hoped anyway) that the point of dragging out this Jason story would ultimately end with “our” Jason returning. As Sonny said yesterday the “Corinthos” family have never needed him more. His return to the fold and specifically to Sam’s arms is, in my opinion, central to this Soap and it’s future. Thus far neither the old nor the new writers have provided ANY satisfaction for those of us who have so patiently endured this never ending saga that is now quite boring.
Mobster Jason and mobster Sonny and enabler Carly brought GH to the brink of cancellation. So, no, “his return to the fold” is NOT central to this soap and its future. Far from it. They need a way for Jason to be in the adventure mix without any more of this mob nonsense. He can be a P.I. with Sam, or join the Police Academy. But going back to the Mob-centric Jason/Corinthos show is a recipe for disaster.
Well, the PCPD could certainly use Jason’s considerable talents, Tristan! Just look at its currently pitiful state, what with the totally clueless and ineffective Jordan at the helm, a distracted, personally-bereft Dante acting like the walking wounded—even though he brought his sorry situation onto himself—-and, of course, the homewrecking maneater, rookie Val-Chops, who I wouldn’t trust to go buy donuts, let alone protect and serve the public. (Although I suppose she could prove handy for the vice squad….just tart up her wardrobe and voila! She obviously already possesses the “skills” to “grab” a man, just ask Dante!) As for the… Read more »
Totally agree with you Tristan. Jason Morgan was one of the reasons I took a 7 year break from GH. I was sick of Robot Jason. I am the Enforcer. I kill people for Sonny. I have no thoughts of my own. I am a robot. Billy Miller is a fantastic actor – much better than Steve Burton. I hope GH takes full advantage of his acting abilities. I have no issue with him getting with Sonny and/or Sam. But I want it to be a different dynamic. And I want Jason to be the one to take ELQ back… Read more »
Or he could go back to his goal of becoming a doctor.
I do not want him to go back to being Sonny’s enforcer and Carly’s errand boy
I fully agree with you, Tristan. However, I do not want to see Billy in this ‘futile’ role either. Jason is hen-pecked. Either the writers make him snap out of this state of confusion and give him a life, or just allow him to be Liz’s lap dog. I would even settle for a mastiff. Billy Miller is one of my favorites; has been since AMC. What TPTB are doing to him is an injustice. Please, deliver Jason from these clucking chickens or deliver Billy from GH.
Right. LOL, sharon. Sonny also said he never makes the same mistake twice. Okaaay….he married Carly how many times? Boy, how monumental of a mistake is that?
And so the story goes….”the Corinthos have never needed him more”. It’s always about the invincible Sonny, who incidentally and ironically happens to be in a wheelchair while his Yenta wife is gallivanting throughout town trying to save Jason, instead of her own kids.
Jason will never be the same, again.. The SB’s Jason will RIP.. This Jason is meant to be a mix, and that is good thing.. Billy Miller will make his Jason his.. I am looking forward to the new/different Jason’s arrival .. Stone Cold is Steve B’s character, not Billy Miller’s character … ( way I see it.. A slap upside J&S head for what they have done to Sonny! Poor neutered guy all whimpy in a wheelchair being a love guru.. blah! And– The Corinthos family is a loveling messed up dysfunctional family that is who & what they… Read more »
@su. I got a good laugh su. You know why? One thing you said stands out in my mind. “Poor neutered guy all wimpy in a wheelchair being a love guru”. I had not idea Sonny went to the Veterinarian, LOL. When you say wimpy…..to what/whom are you referring? I am very naughty, I know. I suppose Sonny has no choice but to be a love guru, since he is sexually incapacitated. he should pursue a career in love-advice. Is he numb from the waist down? Poor Sonny, indeed, su. It must be hard for him since he is used… Read more »
YES I am so ready! I think Jason will take time to himself which is what he should’ve done all along. Liz should be in a straight jacket for a very long time and Sam should also take time to herself.
Wise words, Rose. That is the very first I said when Jason re-emerged. Actually, so did su. After he remembers, he should find himself….free of apron strings of any kind.
Lol…Liz in a straight jacket. If I remember correctly she was institutionalized in the past. They had her doing art therapy…painting.
I see Franco in her future….
Completely agree Rose.
Hi Rose…I’m the other Rose and so agree with you. He can then spend some quality time with the boys. Especially Jake , who I think, Cee Cee(or Bee Bee or DeeDee?) thought a while back was going to possibly have some real problems …possibly brought on by Helena conditioning, or just living alone without other kids on her island.
I agree with all the above, Jason does need to be alone and sort out his feelings, it does seem there is something there for Sam. Ultimately I would love to see Sam and Jason back together.
Elizabeth has no chemistry with Jason, I know a lot of people disagree and that is just my opinion.
I also love Billy Miller and think he could make this Jason his own.
However he will probably not spend to much time alone, that is not in the cards on soaps.
Good idea him and Sam being PI’s together.
Lol. That would be I, CeeCee. I said way back when, little Jake should have been Liz’s first priority instead of big Jake. The kid still needs help. So far, I have heard Liz indicate to Jason that Jakey needs help, only once. And, that’s after TPTB probably read some of these comments by many fans. Yet, nothing happens.
He will go back to his one true love…Sonny Corithinos!…and as Jason Morgan!…lol
hey Jimh..
yes! Sonny & Jason are a super couple!
they are bonded to the death!
I hope Jason can find Sonny’s cojones before Sonny buys his 1st cook book..
That is hilarious, su. It seems to me Sonny and Jason really need each other, as they both lost their cojones. Jason’s are on a leash.
Finally. I hope Jason really rips into Liz. No one is more deserving!
I AGREE WITH YOU…LETS GET HIM OUT OF LIZ”S LIES…
I’m glad the Jason slugged the Prince and now I cannot wait for Sam to slap the porcelain off Liz’s face! Oh, and I hope Ric is there to see it and laughs in Liz’s face!
I don’t know how I feel about that. Nikolas told Elizabeth the truth about Jason with the expectation that she would tell everyone. She decided to keep it secret so she could take Jason for herself and Nik kept the secret because he loves Liz. He keeps talking about how she has been through so much and deserves to be happy. His love for her has been the main reason he has been keeping Jason’s identity a secret.
I don’t think Nik lied for altruistic reasons, Tatiana. I do believe he did it because of ELQ. Jason AND his shares could turn Nik’s scam on its head.
Yes that’s true CeeCee. He did lie because of his ELQ scam but he told Liz the truth thinking she would expose this lie. I think he has since kept it secret mostly for Liz so she can have what she wants.
Finally. Now Sam can shut up ..
yiks!
I never want to have to see Sam with Jason..
I luv Billy/Jake .. And when the horribly irritating Sam is sniveling and begging Jason to love her I might have to FF just to get Sam off my screen and that will really p-me-off ‘cus I luv seeing Billy..
((the Jason reveal has been and is, stale…
I really would have expected, at the least, a couple of surprising WOW moments)))
0ohh well, long live GH !!!
You go, girl!!! Su, I don’t want to see Jason with Liz either. I want him with Hayden; after some time off from all these shrews.
CeeCee!!!!!
Yes yes yes! great thinking!
Hayden & Jason would be awwwwwsome!
Oooooohhhh, noooooo, CeeCee! I’m sorry, Girl, I simply cannot abide that slick slag Hayden….she’s bad enough with the equally-repellent Nik, but keep her away from the dreamy, charming Jason! His “Jake” already failed to have any chemistry whatsoever with her, amnesiac-state aside. Plus, what was it she said today? That she is a former Wall Street….broker? Hah, hardly…..now a former Wall Street hooker???? Yeah….that sounds about right! That one I could “bank on!”
I’m liking this version of Hayden a lot. Watch out Nick !
I like Hayden with Nik. They have awesome chemistry. Its funny but I do not see Sam as sniveling at all. I am not a huge fan (wish she would dress like a grownup) but if anyone snivels, its Liz. Sam has been remarkably patient with Jason’s refusal to remember anything about who he was and their life together, and his stubborn loyalty to his boring as hell fiance.
@tatiana.
I never called Sam sniveling. I never called her anything. I said she and Liz were both shrews.
Actually, I think Hayden and Nik are hot together as well….very sexy and passionate together. However, it would be a great twist, sweet irony, indeed, if Jason and Hayden ended up together. I apologize if my writing does not seem to impart what I mean.
@Fanny.
Thank you, my sweet lady. Why is it that we are not allowed to have favorites? Hayden/Rebecca is spectacular, and that is my opinion. Sam and Liz are doing or have done a lot worse. Hayden is supercalifragelisticexpialidocious (as is Nina). Hayden is turning with the tides…in a good way. She will get her wings soon, LOL. A bientot.
Yes, yes and YES! I will be the first to admit that Billy Miller can do NO wrong in my eyes. But I do feel awful (just a little bit) for Elizabeth (Rebecca Herbst) — all her dirty lies and schemes and cover ups just for the sake of having a man who really never wanted her. She is just so believable as a pathetic bird. I actually feel bad even when she deserves what she gets. I hope it was all worth it for her because you don’t want to mess with Jason. I love GH so much right… Read more »
I am still unsure about what motivates Liz, Mateo. Is it really her strong love for Jason, or the idea that she can take him from Sam? From what I hear there has been a long-standing rivalry between the women. Is it about winning? Liz’s love doesn’t seem that convincing to me. She strikes me as a floozy. I have been watching for a year and a half, and she has fallen in and out of love with at least three men. That is not a stable woman. I know, it’s a soap.
I think she does love Jason…she has in the past. As well as this one, and that one, etc. Wouldn’t call her a floozy, but she sure is needy and insecure. Always has been. But it doesn’t show in her public face. Rather pristine, sweet best friend, and poooor Elizabeth.
I’ve been preparing myself for Liz to start getting bullie/ beaten up by the hollier then thou group of Sam and Carly . It probably won’t be pretty I hope if JASON is going to dump her that it’s done quickly, Liz will learn her lesson, and send them all to hell and move on. I’m over they all fighting over JASON please.
IF, Liz had told Jake he was Jason, it would have meant nothing as he/Jake has zero memory of Jason.. Jake would have been in a year of hell knowing he was a hit man, a stone cold killer, when he/Jake was not.. He should thank Liz for sparing him from the suffering .. Jason will stay with Liz.. he loves her, has a life & family with her.. Jason will be very mad with Liz but still loving Liz , his anger will fade. even when he remembers that does not mean he will be the same Jason or… Read more »
And- the way it is now;
Jake does not want to be Jason, he likes his life as Jake..
He doesn’t want to live Jason’s life..
He will not be the Jason that was, he won’t be Jason, ever again..
He is mixed- Jake and Jason and holding onto Jake and Sam is not in Jake’s life and I doubt that Sam will be Jason’s love, again..
Awww, shucks, su. Are you getting all mushy and philosophical on us? LOL…. ….fact is, we don’t know in which direction the writers will take this. At the back of my mind, I keep thinking that if Patrick leaves for good (no recast), then, Sam’s door is left wide open ; enter Jason. We do not really know this brand new Jason, so he may not be so forgiving towards Liz, whether he has his memory or not. Most men do not like to be any woman’s fool. That is exactly what Liz did….made a fool of him. I asked… Read more »
No, no, no, my friend. I would rather face the truth, head on, than be lied to just to be spared? Thank Liz? Su, that’s so illogical and twisted, if Liz did it for that reason. And, more importantly, Liz’s motive was more nefarious than that. She could care less about ‘sparing’ Jason any heartache. She did it to feed her warped, selfish needs, su. Yes?
Im with you…tired over two weak needy women fighting over some guy!
Waste of time and energy, Jimmy. You would think that at this age, these women would have settled down their ‘chasing’ instincts….they are mothers, for goodness sake…not High Schoolers. These writers should get out of that rut and start writing gripping, age appropriate storylines. I wish the ELQ takeover storyline would still be pursued….add some intrigue and mystery. What happened to the Tracy-Hayden ‘partnership’ to bury Nik? Let’s have some of that! …..Or, involve Jason, with or without his memory, in re-enforcing a strategy to get back what belongs to him and his family. It would be a lot more… Read more »
That’s WHY they should use Johnny Z. WISELY… He’s
a huge asset.
Exactly, Aria. I said the same thing. Get over it; act your ages; pay more attention to your kids and move on. WRITERS; please enough of this feathers flying nonsense.
Are any of you actually interested in watching a soap? C’Mon guys!By definition soaps are about love and lust…jealousy, rivalry, angst, unrequited love. Alan and Monica back in the day…cheating all over each other. Rick
Sam, Ned, Sonny, Brenda, Jax.,,it goes on and on. Its a huge part if soaps…if some viewers want maturity, home, loyalty…Adele out Little House on the Prairie…some 50s Ozzie and Harriet…
Lol. Soaps would be so interesting if we took out the rivalries and complicated relationships and had all the soap mom’s being good girls and just taking care of the kids…
So true, CeeCeeGirl! But then, isn’t nearly everyone in Port Charles acting as if they’re afflicted by arrested development? It’s not simply Liz and Sam fighting over a guy like two high schoolers…what about that idiot Dante forsaking his wedding vows and behaving no better than a hormonal teenager with the only too willing Val-Chops, or worse yet, the ever-ready hot-to-trot granny Alexis indulging her unquenchable urges with “boyfriend” Julian, not to mention her almost always inappropriately revealing attire????? Or Sappy carelessly getting “in the family way” and then lying about the babydaddy because she prefers the “rich pretty boy”… Read more »
I think hes going to want time alone to absorb all these revelations coming to light and he’s also going to be hurt and MAD AS HELL
I am so looking forward to Liz getting busted for all her lies and manipulations. I cannot believe her snarky attitude with Sam yesterday like she had every right to play with people’s lives. I hope that Jason dumps her azz but I have a feeling it is not going to be that easy. Jason is really not the same man that he once was. I can’t believe that he is been walking around for weeks now without making any effort to find out who he was. Spend time with people he used to love and cherish (like Sonny and… Read more »
The curious thing out of all of this Liz is in the medical field it never occurred to her that some day he just might get his memory back and it would all blow up in her face. Just think now we get months on end of Carly big mouth running around town in Liz’s face non stop. Just how many secrets have Carly and Sam kept this saga should have ended a long time ago. I was just wondering if the roles had been reversed would Sam have told the truth?
Good question Kay. These women are all of questionable reputation and low on the morality scale. So, who knows?
@Timmm. I agree. From the beginning I said that little Jake, the actor, played the automaton like a pro. The first thing that came to mind was that although he looked healthy, his mind had been ‘toyed’ with. I even used the words, “Lord only knows, what Helena did to him”. Many of us, I believe including yourself, suggested Liz seek help for her son. As a medical professional she should have recognized the signs; however, her focus was to rope Jason, reel him in and brand him. Good bye, little Jake, you’re not as important as Jason. That is… Read more »
Hey there, CeeCeeGirl! I enjoy a fine double entendre as much as anyone else….one can be totally saucy—yet completely genteel—-at the same time….it all depends upon the perception of those on the receiving end! So whilst I really wasn’t initially trying to be “naughty”—as you say—when the thought first came to me, well, yes, I later was quite aware of the possibility that my comment could be interpreted in a number of ways….some more innocent than others!!!! I also knew I could rely upon you to catch on….and you certainly didn’t disappoint, oh clever one! LOL!
@Shay. Lol, Shay. Thank you . I’d like to think I’m clever, but, this time my mind was not as clean as it should have been. You’re tight, though. It’s a matter of interpretation. ‘Ins and outs’ could be referring to relationships. I mean, the bed-hopping on these soaps is dizzying. Now they’re in; then they’re out; over and over. Everyone has been in bed with everyone else, without giving it a second thought. I’ve always been such a good girl, Shay…albeit I do have a naughty mind. LOL. Pathetic, right? I know you don’t think much of Nina, but,… Read more »
I don’t think Sam would.
Well, by the same token, k/kay, how is it that another so called “medical professional,” namely Sappy, has managed to have two “unplanned” pregnancies in as many years???? One would certainly think that she should be aware of the “ins and outs” of contraception!
@Shay I think you are going to get your wish concerning the character of Sabrina. I think she will be exiting soon with the baby Daddy Carlos I think otherwise they would have tied her to Michael Q. Just a guess! As for Liz I will be glad when the torture is over never have I seen three women Carly, Sam & Liz and for that matter Robin be so stupid over a man. Tragic!!
Uh-oh! ‘Ins and outs’, in quotations, no less. You know I’m naughty, Shay….you know where my head just went…..LOL. double entendre, indeed. You are naughtier than I thought, Shay. I love it, babes.
I think Sparkle Pony is on an exit strategy too, Kay.
She’s taking knitting classes after realizing that knotting booties for baby hooves is nearly an impossible task for the knitting novice.
I agree with Kay. Shay, remember I said the same thing as soon as Carlos ‘walked’ back on stage? He came specifically to take her away. His reemergence was contrived/devised to accommodate Theresa’s maternity leave. Later, babes.
Correction: you’re right; not tight….oh, Lordy Lord. Lol.
Oh, k/kay, Harry and CeeCee….I do so hope you are all correct! Seeing Sappy (permanently) trot off into the sunset with Carrrrrr-LOS!!!! is at the top of my Christmas wish list! By the way, k/kay, it’s lovely to see you posting more frequently once again…I know you recently went back to school, but I’m assuming your holiday break is allowing for a bit more leisure and soap viewing? Great timing, too…this month’s GH may actually prove to be worth the effort it takes to watch! Today’s episode finally had the feeling of the show that I once knew and loved….cannot… Read more »
Well I have made time to watch this at nite because I wanted to see how it played out. Amazing generally it would have been Y&R I would have made time for but everybody is acting like a pod over there so I said nope going to keep my promise to myself and leave it alone. Take care Shay hope you get your xmas wish!
Jake may not want anything to do with Liz after the truth comes out, but he’s going to have to stay connected to her because of whatever is about to come to light with ‘little robot Jake’. Somebody needs to help that poor kid! LOL!
“Little Robot Jake” has become a better actor since Miller has been around.
I don’t think his acting was ever off. When we first met him he was traumatized, shocked and who knows how he was treated by Helena. He was a little “stone cold” just like dad. And, a tad off…which he still is. There’s a lot going on with him…he’s not a “kid”…there nothing childlike about him because of his experiences. I think.k he plays “strange” and reserved very well. I’m hoping we’ll get to his story. Should GH survive and remain on years from now, he’d be a great character to expand upon.
Your right. They all cannot be little Spencers from the start. The kid is getting better, for sure.
“Little Robot Jake” is the perfect Steve Burton mini-me. They’re so much alike, it’s spooky.
@Shay..you’re SO right…mini me, mirror image.
@Fanny….And the same deadpan delivery, too. “Stone Cold,” indeed!
Yes Canny, I agree. said so above. I actually think this kid is great…
Lol…Canny.
Yes, the reveal is so overdue. Jason will need time for himself to sort things out. In the end, I hope he stays with Liz. Sam annoys me. Carly and Sonny expect Jason to be their Jason. They are wrong. I think I think this Jason is a fusion of Jason Quartermaine and Jason Morgan. I like him much better than Jason Morgan.
ITA, Sam and Carly are SO annoying, pushy and NEEDY. But then, so is Liz, lol. None of these women are coming off smelling like a rose, and I like that. Liz and Sam both made some good points during their argument. Yes, Liz keeping Danny from his father was wrong. Trying to marry Jason when she knows darn well he’s already married – wrong! Pathetic! Yes, Sam stringing Patrick along while she tries to get Jason to remember her is wrong. Glad this story is not going to be just “pile on Liz” time. Oh yeah, she’s gonna get… Read more »
Forgive me, but I must disagree with you, maddie. I am no fan of Sam, but she had every right to push herself headlong on both Liz and Jason. She is his wife. Apparently they had this great love; she needed to know ‘where do we go from here’. Sam’s rage is well justified. And, yes, Liz and Jason also had a great love, but calling it a thing of beauty is a bit over the top, for me. That expression is reserved for poets where there is honesty and purity involved. From what I have gleaned, Lizzie always managed… Read more »
Hey CeeCee, I guess I should’ve specified, JAKE’s love for Liz was a thing of beautly. He was so expressive, just laid everything out there, adored her with everything that was in him. No eyes for anybody else, not even Sam, which is strange, because he should’ve been attracted to both women. But he wasn’t! His heart belonged to Liz from the moment he opened his eyes in that hospital room. Gosh, I loved the way he loved her! Now I suppose he’ll forget all about her and fall in love with Sam. That’ll make the Jasam fans happy. But… Read more »
hi fginaspy..
Jake is Jake, the only life he knows, he is Jake..
but-
He will struggle with being Jason/Stone Cold and he is also a Quartermain..
To make this story good and really intriguingly great, that will depend on how good the writers are, if or if not they can deliver high intriguing drama….
— we will see
((so far Jason’s revel has been a snore, uneventful, no intrigue, no mystery, no much of anything …
It’s been more about Liz and Sam than about Jason.. he has been left out of his reveal LOL ,,
I totally agree
Happy to see Anna, Mac, Monica, Tracy, Laura…
Sonny lecturing Ava on morality and parenting is ironic. Pot meet kettle.
MB … It was soooo nice to see Mac! 🙂
A nice, unexpected surprise! Hope to see the vets more frequently.
I am so looking forward to the truth “finally” coming out. Clearly, in grand soap opera fashion, he will not run into Sam’s arms. He will ponder all of the new info that comes to light on his own, and as we have already heard, he will turn to Sonny, which is fitting. I do think that ultimately, he will end up with Sam (which I am all for), but I believe that will not happen for a while.
I can’t wait for Jason to leave Liz she is completely pathetic, and selfish. The real Jason would never forgive her because he always wanted the truth and he was in love with his wife, so they should find they way back to each other, they were the loves of each other’s lives
Poor Liz can’t seem to win in the love department. Maybe she should think about becoming a lesbian.
Poor Liz could have been happy with her first love Lucky. Cheated on him with his brother. Could have been happy with Rick…dumped him for manipulating abd lying, which is what she has done abd is still doing. She could have been happy with AJ, but abandoned him when he was accused of Connie’s murder. Poor Liz…not. She does have phenomenal skin…I’ll give her that! 😉
Please get off of my cloud.
Team jasam all the way…put him back with Sam Carly sonny ..bring the excitement back ..sick of the boring long drug out storyline
I havent watched todays ep yet but I really want someone to to bitch slap Liz real hard! I hate this manipulative lying tart. Sam is the only one that sees this chick for exactly what she is. She should just let her have Jason because they have made him into an idiot anyway for trusting her so much! that said, hope we can all move on now!
If I may digress…I loved seeing Mac yet at the same time it was a letdown having him pop in…after theres been no mention of either him or Felicia for months. Its ridiculous. The new writers have got to strive for more continuity.
Happily surprised long overdue…
Yes but give the new writers credit for remembering to write for Mac! Just like Bobbi and Valerie’s scenes. Loath Val BUT it was nice seeing Bobbi and it kind of works with Bobbi supporting Val because like Bobbi said, she was no saint either!
As much as I hate Val and FF through all of her scenes, I sucked it up and watched the scenes with Bobbi. Still hate Valerie, but it was great to see Bobbi.
Loved seeing Mac. He and Anna would be a great crime-solving team.
Perhaps I didn’t express myself correctly…I’ll clarify. I loved seeing Mac! I was surprised..didn’t read on this or any site he was making an appearance. But it didn’t work for me. He just showed up with that soap “save”…Felicia and I were worried about you…just Was so obvious that these two characters just disappeared off the show…and magically he’s back. Its more realistic to me when someone returns…its pack acknowledged they’ve been gone…ie Dillon, Paul, Johnny, Laura…than not mention Mac at all and suddenly there he is. I’d love if Mac, Lucy, Bobby, Scottie were regularly seen. As it is,… Read more »
I don’t care how it ends as long as Sam does not end up with Jason. She is no better than the rest of them knowing she wants Jason but hurting Patrick and little Emma.
I don’t understand why anyone wants Jason with someone clearly mentally ill like Liz. No one who is stable and sane would do what she did. She deserves to pay for her actions and for purposely keeping Jason away from his wife and son. I don’t even care if he ends up with Sam or someone new, but I sure as hell don’t wish Liz on him. He can do way better.
Jason does not know he has a wife and son, he is void of Jason, he is still Jake..
No matter what the name is- he is Jake, Jason is gone..
I doubt Jason will ever be written as fully being Jason..
SB Jason/Stone Cold is gone..
Liz has not kept Jason away from his wife and son, in Jake’s world he has no wife and son to be kept away from..
He looks at Sam and he is blank, void of her..
Su, that is not the point, fully. The point is, Liz made a decision that was not hers to make. She took away Jason’s right to his ‘self’. Regardless of the fact he had no memory; knowing his identity would most definitely give him a sense of being, and direction. Outwardly, Jason seemed content. He was in love and lived with the woman with whom he planned a future. Great….all well and good. But this abyss of a quagmire in which was dragging him further and further down; the struggle of keeping afloat would eventually have taken its toll. This… Read more »
Yup!! Like your post, mlgh.
Agree much. It boggles my mind that some think because he can’t remember there’s.o “crime” committed by keeping him in the dark. Amazes me actually.
I’m starting the countdown clock for Jason’s next brain injury / head trauma. So many whacks to the head that by now he should be left to babbling while playing with Lego.
Doesn’t matter who he picks. He’ll get whacked in the head during sweeps and the fun starts all over again.
OH MY LORD!!!!! Too funny, Torqumada.
I’m so over this over due storyline! we need to get someone like Shonda Rhimes writing team and even Shonda herself in there consulting these writers/producers. Disturbing how long this storyline has gone on…
Why does everyone talk about “Sam and Jason’s son” and completely forget about the son Jason and Liz have. Danny is not the only off spring of Jason’s. I don’t know why the writers had to turn Liz into such a beotch but they did. Sam isn’t much better. Jason fell in love with Liz first, long before Sam showed up in town. Now once again he fell in love with Liz. He is not the same moron he was, thankfully, and hopefully will not return to “stone cold”. Perhaps he will return to medicine and we can move away… Read more »
But, Jason is acting like a moron, rcraig. If he had a brain, he would not jump into moving in with Liz, engagement rings, and entertaining marriage. If he had any sense at all, he would put his head and house in order first.
Hi CeeCee,,
well, the writers wanted Jason hooked-up as soon as possible.
imo- He need to be free to search and find himself have a couple of adventures on his journey to him..
–, he was nowhere ready for an instant family..
but– J&S are love couple writers.. they write couples and their love problems (( BORING! but that’s what is ..
@su
Well, my dear, su. J&S are wrong. LOL. We all appreciate being in love with love, but, the writing needs to be reasonable and sensible and sensitive. Now that the truth is getting closer and closer, these writers need to rethink their writing strategy.
When Liz first started lying to “Jake” he only had a son with Sam. Liz and Jason’s son Jake was dead. Jake was found alive in the summer and it just served to make Liz feel justified in lying to Jason to keep him with her. Elizabeth has always been a bit of a beotch, she got worse and more selfish this year. Her self righteous attitude towards Ric lying to her about Hayden is so hypocritical. I hope that someone calls her on it. Yes, Jason and Liz were in love once but she decided not to be with… Read more »
I disagree that Jason finding out Liz aided Nik in keeping his life from him won’t have an impact. If it’s written the way it should be it will devastate him. I think that’s exactly how they’ve been setting it up. He says he didn’t want to be Jason but the minute he found out he punched Nik & screamed about finding out who STOLE his life. Thought he didn’t want it? He DOES want to know, he’s just in denial. Liz is the ONLY person he has trusted fully for over a year! He trusts Sam some but he’s… Read more »
I completely agree Laurie. There have been so many times since Jason has been back where it was quite obvious that Jason felt things were familiar or had flashes regarding Sam and his previous life. Not only did he stand in for “Jason” at the pretend ceremony with Sam at the Noodle Buddha but he kept prowling around the backyard while Sam was talking with the owner. It was so obvious that it was all familiar to him but he couldn’t say why. Something has been up with Sam and Jason since the beginning. He instinctively trusted her to help… Read more »
Ditto and ditto!
Also I really like the scenes these past few days. I like the way they’re setting up & that he finally grew a brain & went to get answers from Sam. How many times now has he disappeared on Liz w/o telling her? Why didn’t he tell her he kissed Sam & remarried Sam at Noodle Buddha? These things matter. Something inside of him instinctively knew not to. He maybe doesn’t trust her all that much but wouldn’t dream it’s as bad as it is. Many folks aided in this disaster. But for folks to think what her & Nik’s… Read more »
Good post. I agree with you that it’s just the way they are writing this story. It would have been better if both Nik and Liz didn’t know who Jake was, but it looks like they have been sacrificed in the name of propping more Jasam and Carly/Sonny…exactly what we got tired of seeing years ago.
I hope Jason gets the truth soon about Liz’s concealment but am not sure what I want him to do. I hope he doesnt go with Sam as I am tired of her ranting. I hope Patrick doesn’t marry her as she is not serious about him in my opinion and he is leaving.
Since I dont see Jason remembering himself as either version of his past self, why not just let him be Jason Doe and become a new him. Like he has done this past year. Monica is his mother, Carly is his friend and he probably will take a liking to Spin again BUT thats where it should end! Let him be his own new Jason with a new job and a new girl. Billy Miller has too much talent to stay in this ridiculous fog!
Completely agree.
Makes sense to me, Timmm. As long as Jason, in his ‘new self’ will come to love his mother and appreciate his family name and what it represents. In other words, fight to get ELQ and its integrity back. Later.
Thats the nail on the head Cee, become Billy Miller’s Jason BUT he knows he is a Q and his mom loves him and misses him so dearly. She has been through hell and back and he should move into the Q mansion and take ownership of his position in that household and be a dear son. The hell with Liz and Sam! Jason, enjoy your sons and find a new love. Oh Liz and Sam would have a cow if Jason started seeing someone else!
This ridiculous fog is a man’s quest to find his past. It’ something we’d all want to know, have a right to know. What he chooses to do with his memories will then be HIS choice, not Elizabeth’s. He can revert to his old ways, or choose a new path. A rebirth. Again. But I don’t know why anyone thinks Billy ‘s being wasted. He’s been the center of the show for over a year…he’s played lost, confused, forlorn, strong, controlled, funny, charming…all the while trying to build a life out of nothing. Perhaps it took too long…especially for those… Read more »
I dont think Billy has been wasted either. As you pointed out, he has gotten to play many different emotions in many different positions. Its weird but I never thought of him as Billy Abbott either. Miller is just that good! I do think the fans just got tired of him walking around in a haze and like I always point out, the longer Jason was Jake the sooner Billy Miller’s contract will expire and he will be in “Mission Impossible Six” or something!
Yes, Timmm. The someone else Jason should be with is Hayden. Can you imagine that?? Kill three birds with one stone….a crow pie in the face to Liz, Sam and Nik. HaHa. Bye, luv.
I thought of Hayden to BUT she has so much sexual fire with the Prince!
@Timmm.
I know, my Timmm. Nothing beats the sexual fire with the right person. But, is what she has with Nik temporary? We don’t know how magnetic Hayden and Jason would be. A lot more passionately and breathtakingly ‘back-scratching’ than the tame love he has with Liz.
However, my point is , my love, …..imagine the clucking, wing-flapping and running around in circles going on within the chicken coop. Ha! Luv-ya.
Ugh…I just want this whole storyline to END! Frankly, I am quite over Carly and Sam, two of the towns biggest biotches to be throwing stones at Liz. Sam had evolved into a more reasonable person over the past few years, but let’s talk about Sam’s transformation into some holier than thou shrew casting stones. I think some viewers have selective memories regarding her. I mean, can you honestly say that Sam wouldn’t have done the same thing if the shoe was on the other foot? I do. In fact, viewers witnessed Sam do worse things in her times of… Read more »
I agree Liam that if you go back into these women’s past you will find that each of them have done reprehensible things. However, Sam did pay for what she did to Liz many times over. She was the town pariah for a while and she also apologized to Liz several times over the years. She mentioned it even recently when she admitted to not being in a position to throw stones. That behaviour is in her past and you will agree that Sam has made an effort in the last few years to be honest and mature because it… Read more »
First off, Liz is not always so self righteous; however, those sound like words Carly or Sam would say after doing something stupid themselves. Secondly, Liz has not always been sneaky and manipulative. I’m not sure what show you have been watching, but it doesn’t sound like the same GH that I have watched (since the late 70’s) and I have continued to watch throughout Liz’s entire tenure. When she first arrived to GH, she was a teenager who DID act sneaky and manipulative, but that personality changed for the most part once she was raped. Sure she’s done things… Read more »
you want jason to “smack” down liz? are you advocating violence towards women? do you really hate liz that much? i love the character and i do want her to feel shame for what she’s done, i just don’t want her getting beat by the likes of sam or carly who have done worse not just to liz but other characters. this two girls sam and carly are mean or turn really nasty when things don’t go their way, so i’m all for liz but not necessaryly am i for her “winning” jason. i want liz to feel really guilty… Read more »
Aria, of course I am not advocating violence against women and I am pretty sure you know that. Giving someone a smack down is just a term that means telling them off pretty severely which is exactly what she deserves. Its funny how you keep seeing hate and even violence in my words when I never once said that I hate Liz. I do think her actions and behaviour in this Jason debacle are disgusting and reprehensible. And I also never said that I root for Sam or Carly. If you would stop comparing Liz to Sam or Carly, you… Read more »
Hey, tatiana. I get what you are saying. “A smack-down” is used as an idiom; an adage, per se. Same as, “I am so hungry; I could eat a horse”. English Class/Grammar/Lit 101.
And, yes….each of them has indulged in vile behavior, one time or other.
liam you rock, i agree with you, especially when liz hater try to bring up that she was once a manipulator, really? she was a teenager, that hardly counts, and now she’s looking out for herself, like sam and carly don’t do the same, please, they’re worse. I do hate the show trying to make liz so desperate but still compare to sam and carly she’s tame in my opinion. And liz is right about carly what kind of sick perversion does she have with jason? does she want to be his best friend like brother and sister from another… Read more »
Liam and Aria : whew! it’s simply just great to see “Liz” fans…
this trio is REELing ! I just don’t think it’s going any where near … for “all” the Liz and Sam fans
I’m bowled over… but not undone… by all the spewing of vitriol
@Liam “many” thank you’s; over and over first and foremost…. of the two LEADing Women to choose from… it’s Rebecca Herbst from the get go i’m going to let this ride out now… because; I totally agree, with; what you said above… the GH production team… is going full steam ahead, with ; Jason and Sam & Carly and Sonny. two dull couples all being led by a screeching sexually frustrated trapped in middle age plus, Carly… she just doesn’t know whats fun anymore Sonny… who , LOL… is the king pin… but hasn’t really done any thing… as befitting… Read more »
I find it amusing that Liz supporters can only support her actions when comparing them to Carly or Sam. Really? So Carly and Sam have become the moral barometers of the show? Wow, that is pretty sad. Carly is probably the most annoying and hypocritical character on the show but she is right about Jason. He should be making an effort to find out who he is before he makes life changing decisions and shackles himself to Liz. Elizabeth has always been self righteous but I agree she has not always been manipulative. I actually used to like her way… Read more »
I do not think anyone hates Liz, Aria. You love using that word so loosely. I love the actress, loved the character, as well. I do not like her actions at this point. I am not well-versed on any of these characters. So I call ’em as I see ’em. I like neither Sam nor Kelly M. I do not like Carly, but I love the actress (Laura). I stand my ground. Jason should be with no one. I think the writers should have given Jason the chance to get to know both Sam and Liz and then have him… Read more »
I like to see Jason become a Quartermaine and a wsb agent
Absolutely my point, Allen.
I know … right , Allen? this would make everything, right… and calm both “fandom’s” if that’s how this is? ugh! as I’ve always said… if the writing stinks…. watch the actors… hence why we get caught up in… “fandom” and looking at whos paired with who for chemistry. easy to do altho… I think he’d have better story as a doctor; doing, his internship at General Hospital. question : for any of the women who choose to answer…. is it possible that women hold women up to higher standards ???? I just feel like Liz is being dragged over… Read more »
p.s.: when Billy screamed out… to Sam as she was disrespecting him and Liz in their own house
“Get OUT” get out of our house, i’m done with you”
YES… at that instant in Sam; eyes you could tell… there may not ever be a chance ( even; when, he went back, later that night, to apologize) and now knows the truth.
I need to rephrase that: a woman is going to look after her own; first… because of love and family
bearing in mind… both Sam and Liz… knew in their heart… Jason love(s) them
neither of their relationships ended badly… thereby giving each woman a heart rendering
To a certain extend, yes, Patrick. Women, those who hold themselves to a higher standard, do expect other women’s dais to be rsised a notch. Then, there are those women, in real life, with loose morals ( there are nouns in which I could use to describe them, but I will not) who find exception to what Liz did. But, this is not real life. Rebecca H is a fan favorite, which includes myself. She’s a great actress. So, it sort of becomes hard for some to descriminate. I can pick characters apart most of the time, whether I like… Read more »
he’s got the skill why not use it for good instead of for sonny.
at the very least
geez louise: the much lauded back to back Leading Man Emmy winning performance
to see his command ??? what…
almost like pandering… beneath him… to be left to serve, if you will
Sonny and Carly
I saw yesterday’ ep: Sonny… ” we need him more than ever”
and Carly, once again… (along with Sam) “what are you afraid of? why hiding? the real you is in their… you needed to know the truth
this is not the way to go
ok-
This is to be Jake/Jason’s story, finding out who/what he is, finding himself.
yet, the Jason revele has been about everybody buy Jason..
It’s liz and Sam, Patrick and Sam, Laura, Nik, Hayden, Carly and poor Jake/Jason has been left out of his story/reveal..
The writing is horrible ..
su0000…You make a really good point. It has been about everyone but Jason. But that’s also because Jason has made the decision not to investigate his past. He has been in denial about who he is since he found out.
No matter what happens one thing is for sure: Sam is going to be “processing” it for weeks to come…
Too funny, Allan. She should process the ideal intonation of her voice.
I want liz to tell the truth about jason…its been a while…whatever happens then thats it…if jason chose her though she lied thats good but everything will change…i hope it will end those lies and tell him that nickolas knows it
I propose that if they put Jason back in the mob, that those of us who disagree with this move, pick one day out of one week and we boycott the show. Just for that one show during that one week and only on that one day. Don’t you think that would get the writers attention and cause them to listen to the fans!? I mean if one show dropped dramatically in viewership it would raise more than eyebrows! Anyway too soon to jump the gun. We don’t know where this is going just yet, so until then I’ll keep… Read more »
Maybe they could cut Valerie and some other dead-weight and bring back Greg Vaughn as Lucky. I always liked his Lucky. (Not to mention his hotness) Move Jason into a new orbit, preferably away from Sam, Liz, Carly and Sonny. He could team up with Michael, Tracy & Monica and fight Nickolas for ELQ. (And maybe Hayden?) I’m liking her much more than I thought I would. I could take or leave Greenlee on AMC. I don’t necessarily dislike Sam or Liz but this would be a good time to put some new life into Jason. I truly came to… Read more »
Any legit fan of GH knows Sam is Jason’s Best Friend. Hayden is a non factor..why even entertain that idea. Liz loves every man who wants her. If there was anything real before between them before, Jason would have married Liz. He didn’t. He never TRULY loved Liz..she is a damsel in distress and guys fall for her fairness. If Jason can’t remember his past..it’s not fair to Sam or Danny to watch Liz be a family under the circumstances. Jason should reconne t with his blood..the Quartermaine’s..and work on his injuries. Love has no room in Jason’s life. He… Read more »
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