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THIS WEEK ON GH: "The Whole Truth And Nothing But The Truth!"
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All systems seems to be a go for General Hospital’s explosive deception around Jason (Billy Miller) to finally come to light this week on episodes of the ABC soap opera.
Now that the stage had been set by Sam (Kelly Monaco) for Liz’s (Rebecca Herbst) and Nikolas (Tyler Christopher) lies to come back to haunt them, lives and couples look to be forever changed, but will they?
Sam has just told Liz she knows she has hid Jason’s true identitfy from him for months! Jason is getting close to a major confrontation with both Sam and Liz. Patrick is ready to move forward with his life with Sam, but no matter what she says, she is deeply in love with Jason!
In this week’s promo for the series from ABC: They tease, “The whole truth and nothing but the truth” as Sam, Jason, Patrick, Elizabeth, and Nikolas lives are about to go through some pivotal moments! Watch it after the jump!
Let us know … are you so ready for this secret come out already? Do you think Jason is going to go back to Sam? Will he still want to make things work with Elizabeth? Will he decide to go it alone? Sure looks like it’s curtains for Patrick and Sam too, since Robin (Kimberly McCullough) will be more in the picture in the days ahead! Share your comments below!
Unexpected surprises are in store for today’s #GH. Don’t miss out on them!
Posted by General Hospital on Tuesday, December 8, 2015
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This whole thing makes no difference since he doesn’t remember anything so there is no full impact really. It would be different if he had his memory back as he would know the players and the reason the truth is so important.
A person he just met last year (Liz)lying to him really means nothing in the scheme of things. It would be a whole other story if a person (Liz) he has this huge history with did this. No history means no impact.
Right, clh. I don’t know what else to say that hasn’t already been said. What a stupid, useless scene. Exactly what did it accomplish? Oh, yeah…Jason is mulling over what Sam disclosed…chews on it, but he doesn’t swallow it. No surprise there. The twist would be if he remembered right then and there while asking Liz if what Sam said was true. BAM!! Hit him like ice-water. He should be INTERROGATING Liz!! Jason is such a wuss. I said it before and I’ll say it again. Might as well put on one of Liz’s skirts.
@Shay.
Why, thank you, my lovely. If Nathan ever leaves I will go on a hunger strike for an entire meal. Ha!
Yeah, Dante, the loverboy, is reverting back to his teen years, along with Sam and Liz. I only wish for him to come to a rude awakening when his hot blood simmers down; but, it’ll be too late.
Say, Shay, lol….were Lulu and Johnny ever an item? What are the chances they will hook up? I don’t normally condone such payback behavior….but, just this once, I want Dante to get his. Ohhh, that would be grand.
And, I will go into the wine cellar ( where no one can hear me) and scream next time I see “Valerie is beautiful”, in print. She has a great derrière; smokin’ in that cop uniform….. that’s about it! I look at the face first! Bye, bella.
@CeeCee…Sweets,,.Who wants to be in a relationship with a
Manipulating, habitual liar… Whether he’s been with her short/
planned too be with Elizabeth long term she LIED BIG TIME.
What he can remember is all the lies that led too this major
coverup. She cajoled him repeatedly into leaving the past
behind, that it was of NO importance it held no weight in the
life they were building together in the here & now….Lies all
Lies….Little Jake can attest to it…Laura held on to it out of
love and loyalty….regretfully it has come to a head for
Elizabeth, who committed a bigger crime than Nick in all of
this nastiness. Robin is coming to town…she’ll bring with her
the ability to help Jason put the pieces back together…….
@Fanny.
Exactly, my sweet Fanny. We are in sync. I have been saying what you just said verbatim; and so have you. I could never continue living or trusting anyone where the relationship was built on a lie. I do not know women like that, but I’m sure they’re out there. And my experience with men is limited (just my husband), so, perhaps I am not the right person to speak on this. But, I know what’s right and what’s wrong. And, what Liz is doing is WRONG!! So, I do hope that the writers are able to make this point, when all is said and done, whether Jason remembers or not. There should be a moral to every story; a lesson learned. Perhaps I’m thinking as a teacher right now, but, soap or not, we should always derive a sense of satisfaction from every storyline. Luv-ya.
finally somebody else gets it – i could not agree with you more!!!
i have been saying the same thing since day one – what difference is it going to make who knew what when if jason has no memory??
I really don’t follow your reasoning, with all due respect, elm51. In my opinion, it makes a life or death difference. I’m not sure to whom you are directing your comment, but if it is to myself, you have completely misinterpreted my message. Just because Jason does not remember his past, does not mean or imply to leave things status quo. If anyone, such as Liz, Nik, and now Laura and Hayden know something as crucial as Jason’s identity, then each has a moral obligation to tell him the truth. This part has nothing to do with Jason’s memory. It is a matter of honesty and not subterfuge. These people have no right playing God with someone else’s life, for selfish, personal gain. It goes against everything that’s good in nature. Perhaps any truths from his past that Liz herself, or anyone else who knew him personally and intimately could have related to him may have ‘awakened’ some distant thought or memory, opening the door a crack to his dormant memory. However, you are entitled to express your feelings on the subject. I just wanted to clear up any misunderstanding of my words.
Maybe , Sonny will be the one to tell Jason who he really is…
I really want nu-Jason/Jake to stick around. I was so over mobster Jason ages ago, even while Steve Burton was playing him. Was hoping Jason’s brain tumor from years ago would return him to the sweet, pre-med Jason we used to know before his accident. This Jason is closer to that personality than mobster Jason. And Jason Q. was just as loyal and good a friend as Jason M. (so take that Carly).
I think it does matter, big time, even if Jason doesn’t remember. This woman was supposed to be St Liz to him. But to then find out “he had a huge history with” her in past life makes it a double betrayal.
Ch, of course it matters…regardless of whether Jason remembers his past. His entire relationship with Elizabeth has been based on lies, deceit, manipulation. She knew he had a wife and son, she knew Monica is his mother, she saw him every day tortured and confused as he struggled to shrug off his past. She tried to persuade him not to dig into his OWN LIFE…all so he wouldn’t leave her. She deceived him every day they were together since she found out the truth…and let him go on in the mystery of his own identity.
And you think none of what she did matters?
Well said Rebecca1!
Team Liason all the way. The chemistry between Becky and Billy is so magnetic.
Not really…. sorry to say! Chemistry seems forced to me.
I agree. I never saw the chemistry, beebee ( I’m CeeCee, now, all we need is deedee, lol). There is no passion. Liz gets little brotherly pecks. Do you remember when Hayden was pretending to be Jason’s wife? Yes, he did act somewhat standoffish, but there definitely was tension within that bed. I don’t think it was all due to the fact that they were complete strangers. I felt something. Perhaps if I say it often enough and long enough, the writers will get the hint and put them together. Besides, This Jason is honorable and found himself in a quandary….yet, he was compelled not to betray Liz’s trust. But, Lizzie was doing her PSYCHO thing, regardless. This is also another reason why Jason will take her deception hard. He gave her his all, yet she betrayed him instead, over and over again, with her silence.
Zero chemistry !
I agree. I see no chemistry between them.
ITA, Billy and Becky are magic together! There hasn’t been such a romantic pairing on GH in ages. I think it’s mainly the way he only has eyes for her. The intensity, the romantic things he says (“you’re all I want, I’ve memorized your entire face, I don’t have a ring but I have my love for you” is all going to be ruined for me if he rejects Liz now and falls for Sam. I can’t root for a guy who was madly, DEEPLY in love one day and in love with someone else the next. At least I’ll still have Nathan & Maxie to root for, he’s been constant in his love as well. Fickle guys do nothing for me.
I wouldn’t call a guy who woke up with no memory of himself, lost and confused…who possibly fell for Liz because she provided hearth and home when he didn’t know he already had one, fickle….when he finds out his heroine was actually manipulating, lying and plotting to keep him from finding out the truth…HIS truth. I’d say he was emotionally held hostage, unbeknownst to him. He’d be crazy to stay with her…not without some heavy duty therapy for Ms. Liszt.
Rebecca, if she’d been lying from the start, I’d agree with you. She wanted Jake LONG before she knew he was Jason. Jason was wrong when he said today that Liz was waffling between him and Ric and only chose him when she found out he was Jason. She chose Jake over Ric a few months before that, and they were about to make love. But then Hayden showed up, saying she was Jake’s wife. And Liz, thinking Jake was married, went back to Ric. When Carly exposed Ric’s lies and machinations, Liz was so excited, confessing to Nicholas she could finally find happiness with Jake. BEFORE Nick told her. This whole “lie” thing was contrived just to make people root for Jasam, and it stinks to high heaven. Because they didn’t have to do this. They could have had Jake have “feels” for both women from the start. Instead of making it clear his only love was Liz. And he turned to Sam ONLY because Liz deceived him and broke his heart.
“correction… Lizzy
@Maddiehayes
that is one of the – best – chronological posts; ever ! whew!
I’ve been trying to intimate as such
I realize that it may have been or built on lies ???
this is my perspective
from a mans point of view
“we” like romance just as much; we may never fully explain what that is… or even remark as such
but it’s their; right in front of all of us
and when it’s the truth! I think it’s all right their for he and she or for… any one who feels
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point taken GH Writers; this is playing out for all the layers of emotion to render
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be that as it may; the obvious heart murmer swell and beat… is Jason and Liz
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I can rest now ! LOL…
nicely said
when the thread stated.. that Jason told Liz.. that she broke his heart
that’s putting a humane spin on it for sure
even amongst all the prodding and amnesia
it’s still going to hurt all parties involved…
ugh! my Liz will mend and find a way out of this and persevere, triumph, and hopefully… as i’ve posted… Liz is no longer the sweet put upon taken for granted stand back …. and shadow herself… with her boys
this is the ultimate time for the GH writers to give Liz a backbone… and cull from her steely reserve and remain steadfast and LOVE right back… if her heart pulls in that direction… he’ll know
Maddie…none of that matters…
Yes it’s true that Liz was falling for him before she knew his identity. That’s all well and good.
Then…she DID know his identity. From that point on she had every moral obligation to tell him who he is. In real life any sane person would do so. You don’t live a lie lie that.
To my mind there’s no debate. One can root for Liz and hole he forgives her, Shi h I petal.ally think would be just as ridiculous, but it’s a soap, so who knows…
As for choosing.g Jake over Rick, let’s not forget she dumped Rick for lying to her…for deceiving “Jake” with Hayden. Tad of irony in that…no?
If Liz had never known the truth, it might have been interesting to see if Jason, when and if his memory comes back, remained with her even with his returned feelings for Sam. The way it was written…I. stand by my original feelings in this thread.
See u next post… 🙂
Lol…and “hope” he forgives her…
I have no clue what the next sentence I wrote was…probably, “I think if he forgives her and stays with her that would be ridiculous”…I’d rather she forgive Rick!
thank you Patrick 🙂
Bottom line if you handed RH/Liz the phone book and told her to read it out loud she would have chemistry with it. She is that good of an actress every actor they throw at her she makes it work. I may not always agree with Liz’s choices but she sells it.
K/Kay, ITA. And Rebecca, just for the record, I was never a Jasam or Liason fan. I’ll admit I like Liz more than Sam, always have. But I never thought Jasam should break up. I hated John McBain coming between them, that was the stupidest thing! When “Jake” arrived in PC, I assumed he’d start reconnecting with Sam and Danny. I was surprised they went with Liz and Liz ONLY. I blame this whole fiasco on Carlivati wanting to stir up the Jasam/Liason war again. He was SUCH a troll, LOL. But I’m sad the new writers decided to continue making Liz look like a desperate loon. She’s a GORGEOUS woman and a mother! Seriously, she could have her pick of guys. She didn’t have to resort to this. Nah, sorry, what Rick did was much worse. He went out of his way to hire people to deceive Jake. Liz merely kept a secret. Rick continued his sleazeball ways by trying to “gaslight” Nina. And sleeping with her mother – ugh! I never want to see Liz with Ric again. Bring back Greg Vaughan to play Lucky. 😀
“…See u next post… 🙂 ”
too cute
ie: bringing back Greg Vaughan to play Lucky… WOULD really up the ante and fire up everything!
it’s as K/Kay says… Liz can read the phone book – she’s exquisite
it’s nice to see johnny Z back in the fold… i wonder for how long? it certainly seems like Dante and Lulu are seriously done… Now, I truly see no way out of this one… Dante, my man! what have you “gone” and done ?
watching Big Mac back on the scene w/Anna…. Magic
he should be Anna sidekick…. just to see more of him… to take that brother in law stand and do what he does best… take care of everyone… dang it tho
Diane has told Jason… he’s a wealthy man many times over…. ???? sure seems like this is setting up to be a power play betwixt Jason and Nicholas! let’s go
as for @su take that perhaps Hayden can reconnect back with Jason? I can’t believe how much she stirs…
she’s magical with Nicholas… now that she no longer has a secret to lord over Nicholas… I hope her true feelings emanate and these two find a truce… and connect…. MOVE you two… chess piece the Cassadine Empire…. here comes Jason
I always though (or hoped anyway) that the point of dragging out this Jason story would ultimately end with “our” Jason returning. As Sonny said yesterday the “Corinthos” family have never needed him more. His return to the fold and specifically to Sam’s arms is, in my opinion, central to this Soap and it’s future. Thus far neither the old nor the new writers have provided ANY satisfaction for those of us who have so patiently endured this never ending saga that is now quite boring.
Mobster Jason and mobster Sonny and enabler Carly brought GH to the brink of cancellation. So, no, “his return to the fold” is NOT central to this soap and its future. Far from it. They need a way for Jason to be in the adventure mix without any more of this mob nonsense. He can be a P.I. with Sam, or join the Police Academy. But going back to the Mob-centric Jason/Corinthos show is a recipe for disaster.
Well, the PCPD could certainly use Jason’s considerable talents, Tristan! Just look at its currently pitiful state, what with the totally clueless and ineffective Jordan at the helm, a distracted, personally-bereft Dante acting like the walking wounded—even though he brought his sorry situation onto himself—-and, of course, the homewrecking maneater, rookie Val-Chops, who I wouldn’t trust to go buy donuts, let alone protect and serve the public. (Although I suppose she could prove handy for the vice squad….just tart up her wardrobe and voila! She obviously already possesses the “skills” to “grab” a man, just ask Dante!) As for the new year, my resolution for this police department is that they either get the Divine Devane back as commissioner, or at least Mac as an interim replacement….and needless to say, bringing Robert or Frisco to Port Charrles in that capacity would be just peachy!!!! P.S. Hey, CeeCee, you’ll notice I spared your beloved “Studly Do Right,” (Nathan) a dose of my sarcasm….that’s your Christmas present from me, and yes, you are quite welcome! LOL….
Totally agree with you Tristan. Jason Morgan was one of the reasons I took a 7 year break from GH. I was sick of Robot Jason. I am the Enforcer. I kill people for Sonny. I have no thoughts of my own. I am a robot. Billy Miller is a fantastic actor – much better than Steve Burton. I hope GH takes full advantage of his acting abilities. I have no issue with him getting with Sonny and/or Sam. But I want it to be a different dynamic. And I want Jason to be the one to take ELQ back from Nick and lead that company.
Or he could go back to his goal of becoming a doctor.
I do not want him to go back to being Sonny’s enforcer and Carly’s errand boy
I fully agree with you, Tristan. However, I do not want to see Billy in this ‘futile’ role either. Jason is hen-pecked. Either the writers make him snap out of this state of confusion and give him a life, or just allow him to be Liz’s lap dog. I would even settle for a mastiff. Billy Miller is one of my favorites; has been since AMC. What TPTB are doing to him is an injustice. Please, deliver Jason from these clucking chickens or deliver Billy from GH.
Right. LOL, sharon. Sonny also said he never makes the same mistake twice. Okaaay….he married Carly how many times? Boy, how monumental of a mistake is that?
And so the story goes….”the Corinthos have never needed him more”. It’s always about the invincible Sonny, who incidentally and ironically happens to be in a wheelchair while his Yenta wife is gallivanting throughout town trying to save Jason, instead of her own kids.
Jason will never be the same, again..
The SB’s Jason will RIP..
This Jason is meant to be a mix, and that is good thing..
Billy Miller will make his Jason his..
I am looking forward to the new/different Jason’s arrival ..
Stone Cold is Steve B’s character, not Billy Miller’s character …
( way I see it..
A slap upside J&S head for what they have done to Sonny!
Poor neutered guy all whimpy in a wheelchair being a love guru.. blah!
And– The Corinthos family is a loveling messed up dysfunctional family that is who & what they are, not roses and poetry holding hands hugging in kumbaya, sigh..
The Corinthos have great love for eachother, they are the Corinthos!
it was shameful to turn them into phoney mushers ..
@su.
I got a good laugh su. You know why? One thing you said stands out in my mind. “Poor neutered guy all wimpy in a wheelchair being a love guru”. I had not idea Sonny went to the Veterinarian, LOL. When you say wimpy…..to what/whom are you referring? I am very naughty, I know. I suppose Sonny has no choice but to be a love guru, since he is sexually incapacitated. he should pursue a career in love-advice. Is he numb from the waist down? Poor Sonny, indeed, su. It must be hard for him since he is used to spreading his virility hither and yon. What about Carly? Can she survive without some boudoir exercise? How the mighty have fallen!!!!! Can’t stay down too long, though. He is the unconquerable, inimitable, untamable, undefeatable Sonny Corinthos. Only Jason can save him now. Right!!!! As Jimh said, Sonny needs a little love from Jason. Now, that’s true love. Yeah!!
YES I am so ready! I think Jason will take time to himself which is what he should’ve done all along. Liz should be in a straight jacket for a very long time and Sam should also take time to herself.
Wise words, Rose. That is the very first I said when Jason re-emerged. Actually, so did su. After he remembers, he should find himself….free of apron strings of any kind.
Lol…Liz in a straight jacket. If I remember correctly she was institutionalized in the past. They had her doing art therapy…painting.
I see Franco in her future….
Completely agree Rose.
Hi Rose…I’m the other Rose and so agree with you. He can then spend some quality time with the boys. Especially Jake , who I think, Cee Cee(or Bee Bee or DeeDee?) thought a while back was going to possibly have some real problems …possibly brought on by Helena conditioning, or just living alone without other kids on her island.
I agree with all the above, Jason does need to be alone and sort out his feelings, it does seem there is something there for Sam. Ultimately I would love to see Sam and Jason back together.
Elizabeth has no chemistry with Jason, I know a lot of people disagree and that is just my opinion.
I also love Billy Miller and think he could make this Jason his own.
However he will probably not spend to much time alone, that is not in the cards on soaps.
Good idea him and Sam being PI’s together.
Lol. That would be I, CeeCee. I said way back when, little Jake should have been Liz’s first priority instead of big Jake. The kid still needs help. So far, I have heard Liz indicate to Jason that Jakey needs help, only once. And, that’s after TPTB probably read some of these comments by many fans. Yet, nothing happens.
He will go back to his one true love…Sonny Corithinos!…and as Jason Morgan!…lol
hey Jimh..
yes! Sonny & Jason are a super couple!
they are bonded to the death!
I hope Jason can find Sonny’s cojones before Sonny buys his 1st cook book..
That is hilarious, su. It seems to me Sonny and Jason really need each other, as they both lost their cojones. Jason’s are on a leash.
Finally. I hope Jason really rips into Liz. No one is more deserving!
I AGREE WITH YOU…LETS GET HIM OUT OF LIZ”S LIES…
I’m glad the Jason slugged the Prince and now I cannot wait for Sam to slap the porcelain off Liz’s face! Oh, and I hope Ric is there to see it and laughs in Liz’s face!
I don’t know how I feel about that. Nikolas told Elizabeth the truth about Jason with the expectation that she would tell everyone. She decided to keep it secret so she could take Jason for herself and Nik kept the secret because he loves Liz. He keeps talking about how she has been through so much and deserves to be happy. His love for her has been the main reason he has been keeping Jason’s identity a secret.
I don’t think Nik lied for altruistic reasons, Tatiana. I do believe he did it because of ELQ. Jason AND his shares could turn Nik’s scam on its head.
Yes that’s true CeeCee. He did lie because of his ELQ scam but he told Liz the truth thinking she would expose this lie. I think he has since kept it secret mostly for Liz so she can have what she wants.
Finally. Now Sam can shut up ..
yiks!
I never want to have to see Sam with Jason..
I luv Billy/Jake .. And when the horribly irritating Sam is sniveling and begging Jason to love her I might have to FF just to get Sam off my screen and that will really p-me-off ‘cus I luv seeing Billy..
((the Jason reveal has been and is, stale…
I really would have expected, at the least, a couple of surprising WOW moments)))
0ohh well, long live GH !!!
You go, girl!!! Su, I don’t want to see Jason with Liz either. I want him with Hayden; after some time off from all these shrews.
CeeCee!!!!!
Yes yes yes! great thinking!
Hayden & Jason would be awwwwwsome!
Oooooohhhh, noooooo, CeeCee! I’m sorry, Girl, I simply cannot abide that slick slag Hayden….she’s bad enough with the equally-repellent Nik, but keep her away from the dreamy, charming Jason! His “Jake” already failed to have any chemistry whatsoever with her, amnesiac-state aside. Plus, what was it she said today? That she is a former Wall Street….broker? Hah, hardly…..now a former Wall Street hooker???? Yeah….that sounds about right! That one I could “bank on!”
I’m liking this version of Hayden a lot. Watch out Nick !
I like Hayden with Nik. They have awesome chemistry. Its funny but I do not see Sam as sniveling at all. I am not a huge fan (wish she would dress like a grownup) but if anyone snivels, its Liz. Sam has been remarkably patient with Jason’s refusal to remember anything about who he was and their life together, and his stubborn loyalty to his boring as hell fiance.
@tatiana.
I never called Sam sniveling. I never called her anything. I said she and Liz were both shrews.
Actually, I think Hayden and Nik are hot together as well….very sexy and passionate together. However, it would be a great twist, sweet irony, indeed, if Jason and Hayden ended up together. I apologize if my writing does not seem to impart what I mean.
@Fanny.
Thank you, my sweet lady. Why is it that we are not allowed to have favorites? Hayden/Rebecca is spectacular, and that is my opinion. Sam and Liz are doing or have done a lot worse. Hayden is supercalifragelisticexpialidocious (as is Nina). Hayden is turning with the tides…in a good way. She will get her wings soon, LOL. A bientot.
Yes, yes and YES! I will be the first to admit that Billy Miller can do NO wrong in my eyes. But I do feel awful (just a little bit) for Elizabeth (Rebecca Herbst) — all her dirty lies and schemes and cover ups just for the sake of having a man who really never wanted her. She is just so believable as a pathetic bird. I actually feel bad even when she deserves what she gets. I hope it was all worth it for her because you don’t want to mess with Jason. I love GH so much right now. They are firing on all cylinders. Can’t wait for this week.
I am still unsure about what motivates Liz, Mateo. Is it really her strong love for Jason, or the idea that she can take him from Sam? From what I hear there has been a long-standing rivalry between the women. Is it about winning? Liz’s love doesn’t seem that convincing to me. She strikes me as a floozy. I have been watching for a year and a half, and she has fallen in and out of love with at least three men. That is not a stable woman. I know, it’s a soap.
I think she does love Jason…she has in the past. As well as this one, and that one, etc. Wouldn’t call her a floozy, but she sure is needy and insecure. Always has been. But it doesn’t show in her public face. Rather pristine, sweet best friend, and poooor Elizabeth.
I’ve been preparing myself for Liz to start getting bullie/ beaten up by the hollier then thou group of Sam and Carly . It probably won’t be pretty I hope if JASON is going to dump her that it’s done quickly, Liz will learn her lesson, and send them all to hell and move on. I’m over they all fighting over JASON please.
IF, Liz had told Jake he was Jason, it would have meant nothing as he/Jake has zero memory of Jason..
Jake would have been in a year of hell knowing he was a hit man, a stone cold killer, when he/Jake was not..
He should thank Liz for sparing him from the suffering ..
Jason will stay with Liz.. he loves her, has a life & family with her..
Jason will be very mad with Liz but still loving Liz , his anger will fade.
even when he remembers that does not mean he will be the same Jason or that he will love Sam.. much time has passed and both were in love and marry others, one can never go back to what once was..
And- the way it is now;
Jake does not want to be Jason, he likes his life as Jake..
He doesn’t want to live Jason’s life..
He will not be the Jason that was, he won’t be Jason, ever again..
He is mixed- Jake and Jason and holding onto Jake and Sam is not in Jake’s life and I doubt that Sam will be Jason’s love, again..
Awww, shucks, su. Are you getting all mushy and philosophical on us? LOL….
….fact is, we don’t know in which direction the writers will take this. At the back of my mind, I keep thinking that if Patrick leaves for good (no recast), then, Sam’s door is left wide open ; enter Jason. We do not really know this brand new Jason, so he may not be so forgiving towards Liz, whether he has his memory or not. Most men do not like to be any woman’s fool. That is exactly what Liz did….made a fool of him. I asked my husband, and that was his answer. Lol. But, I will grant you that, in time, if he really, really can’t see himself without Liz in his life, then yes, he probably will forgive her.
Now, as I said on another site, what if Jason realizes he still loves/wants Sam, once his memory returns? And, there’s no doubt in my mind that it will.
No, no, no, my friend. I would rather face the truth, head on, than be lied to just to be spared? Thank Liz? Su, that’s so illogical and twisted, if Liz did it for that reason. And, more importantly, Liz’s motive was more nefarious than that. She could care less about ‘sparing’ Jason any heartache. She did it to feed her warped, selfish needs, su. Yes?
Im with you…tired over two weak needy women fighting over some guy!
Waste of time and energy, Jimmy. You would think that at this age, these women would have settled down their ‘chasing’ instincts….they are mothers, for goodness sake…not High Schoolers. These writers should get out of that rut and start writing gripping, age appropriate storylines. I wish the ELQ takeover storyline would still be pursued….add some intrigue and mystery. What happened to the Tracy-Hayden ‘partnership’ to bury Nik? Let’s have some of that! …..Or, involve Jason, with or without his memory, in re-enforcing a strategy to get back what belongs to him and his family. It would be a lot more interesting than these overgrown teens fighting over a lost cause. Bah humbug!!
That’s WHY they should use Johnny Z. WISELY… He’s
a huge asset.
Exactly, Aria. I said the same thing. Get over it; act your ages; pay more attention to your kids and move on. WRITERS; please enough of this feathers flying nonsense.
Are any of you actually interested in watching a soap? C’Mon guys!By definition soaps are about love and lust…jealousy, rivalry, angst, unrequited love. Alan and Monica back in the day…cheating all over each other. Rick
Sam, Ned, Sonny, Brenda, Jax.,,it goes on and on. Its a huge part if soaps…if some viewers want maturity, home, loyalty…Adele out Little House on the Prairie…some 50s Ozzie and Harriet…
Lol. Soaps would be so interesting if we took out the rivalries and complicated relationships and had all the soap mom’s being good girls and just taking care of the kids…
So true, CeeCeeGirl! But then, isn’t nearly everyone in Port Charles acting as if they’re afflicted by arrested development? It’s not simply Liz and Sam fighting over a guy like two high schoolers…what about that idiot Dante forsaking his wedding vows and behaving no better than a hormonal teenager with the only too willing Val-Chops, or worse yet, the ever-ready hot-to-trot granny Alexis indulging her unquenchable urges with “boyfriend” Julian, not to mention her almost always inappropriately revealing attire????? Or Sappy carelessly getting “in the family way” and then lying about the babydaddy because she prefers the “rich pretty boy” to the “low-class hoodlum?” And what of Lulu….is she about to pull a “big get even” by dallying with Johnny or Dylan? Plus, how about Nik’s unsavory antics with Hayden in full view for Spencer to witness? I could go on and on, but the point is, all of these people are parents who should be setting moral examples for their children instead of acting like devil-may-care kids…..there are precious few real adults in Port Charles these days…you know, the ones who acknowledge their mistakes, try to make amends for them, and actually show some responsible child-rearing abilities, meaning first making the best choices for their offspring, and not themselves. There are barely even any other characters who call out this consistently bad behavior…some mature, sage voices of reason are so sorely needed. Laura made some efforts to discuss Nik’s personal failings, but she lost most of her credibility when she joined him in covering up the truth about Jason. I did like how Olivia launched on Dante today…she was fantastic when she chewed out her disgusting son and his cheap bit on the side as she told it like it was!!!! Applause, applause! (And as an aside, her claret shawl-collared wrap jacket was also quite fabulous!) We need at least a few more like her, and I don’t mean former hooker Bobbie sympathetically giving Val-Chops a pass for wrecking her niece’s home just because she herself was a total tramp in her youth….WHAT was that???? Well, you get what I’m saying, CeeCee….there’s truly just TOO much of these tawdry antics going on in these poor children’s lives…..not a one is currently the product of an intact two-parent union blessed by marriage. Whilst that may sadly reflect much of today’s society, there should be a minimum of a few stable families left in Port Charles to look up to, since the reality is that there are still many parents providing traditional upbringings and bucking the trend toward more and more broken homes.
I think hes going to want time alone to absorb all these revelations coming to light and he’s also going to be hurt and MAD AS HELL
I am so looking forward to Liz getting busted for all her lies and manipulations. I cannot believe her snarky attitude with Sam yesterday like she had every right to play with people’s lives. I hope that Jason dumps her azz but I have a feeling it is not going to be that easy. Jason is really not the same man that he once was. I can’t believe that he is been walking around for weeks now without making any effort to find out who he was. Spend time with people he used to love and cherish (like Sonny and Sam). He has become as cowardly and boring as Elizabeth. He might actually forgive her pathetic actions and lies.
The curious thing out of all of this Liz is in the medical field it never occurred to her that some day he just might get his memory back and it would all blow up in her face. Just think now we get months on end of Carly big mouth running around town in Liz’s face non stop. Just how many secrets have Carly and Sam kept this saga should have ended a long time ago. I was just wondering if the roles had been reversed would Sam have told the truth?
Good question Kay. These women are all of questionable reputation and low on the morality scale. So, who knows?
@Timmm.
I agree. From the beginning I said that little Jake, the actor, played the automaton like a pro. The first thing that came to mind was that although he looked healthy, his mind had been ‘toyed’ with. I even used the words, “Lord only knows, what Helena did to him”. Many of us, I believe including yourself, suggested Liz seek help for her son. As a medical professional she should have recognized the signs; however, her focus was to rope Jason, reel him in and brand him. Good bye, little Jake, you’re not as important as Jason. That is the message I got. Later.
Hey there, CeeCeeGirl! I enjoy a fine double entendre as much as anyone else….one can be totally saucy—yet completely genteel—-at the same time….it all depends upon the perception of those on the receiving end! So whilst I really wasn’t initially trying to be “naughty”—as you say—when the thought first came to me, well, yes, I later was quite aware of the possibility that my comment could be interpreted in a number of ways….some more innocent than others!!!! I also knew I could rely upon you to catch on….and you certainly didn’t disappoint, oh clever one! LOL!
@Shay.
Lol, Shay. Thank you . I’d like to think I’m clever, but, this time my mind was not as clean as it should have been.
You’re tight, though. It’s a matter of interpretation. ‘Ins and outs’ could be referring to relationships. I mean, the bed-hopping on these soaps is dizzying. Now they’re in; then they’re out; over and over. Everyone has been in bed with everyone else, without giving it a second thought. I’ve always been such a good girl, Shay…albeit I do have a naughty mind. LOL. Pathetic, right?
I know you don’t think much of Nina, but, other than Lulu, she seems to be the only woman to keep her knees together. Speaking of which; how long do you think Lulu will maintain this abstinence? Very rare phenomenon, indeed. I suppose she’s too busy devising ways in rearranging Valerie’s face….teeth and all. Do you think Lulu will have a few shots and cave to her
baser carnal needs? I mean, the liquor is just a precursor to that same indulgence, yes? Ha!!!! I will be most surprised if she does not sleep with either Johnny or Dillon. But, more than that, she will have my admiration for a long time if she does not. I think it would be so refreshing if, for once, the writers would have a character keep her/his integrity and dignity and not fall prey to revenge sex, or whatever one may call it. Sweet dreams, bella.
I don’t think Sam would.
Well, by the same token, k/kay, how is it that another so called “medical professional,” namely Sappy, has managed to have two “unplanned” pregnancies in as many years???? One would certainly think that she should be aware of the “ins and outs” of contraception!
@Shay I think you are going to get your wish concerning the character of Sabrina. I think she will be exiting soon with the baby Daddy Carlos I think otherwise they would have tied her to Michael Q. Just a guess! As for Liz I will be glad when the torture is over never have I seen three women Carly, Sam & Liz and for that matter Robin be so stupid over a man. Tragic!!
Uh-oh! ‘Ins and outs’, in quotations, no less. You know I’m naughty, Shay….you know where my head just went…..LOL. double entendre, indeed. You are naughtier than I thought, Shay. I love it, babes.
I think Sparkle Pony is on an exit strategy too, Kay.
She’s taking knitting classes after realizing that knotting booties for baby hooves is nearly an impossible task for the knitting novice.
I agree with Kay. Shay, remember I said the same thing as soon as Carlos ‘walked’ back on stage? He came specifically to take her away. His reemergence was contrived/devised to accommodate Theresa’s maternity leave. Later, babes.
Correction: you’re right; not tight….oh, Lordy Lord. Lol.
Oh, k/kay, Harry and CeeCee….I do so hope you are all correct! Seeing Sappy (permanently) trot off into the sunset with Carrrrrr-LOS!!!! is at the top of my Christmas wish list! By the way, k/kay, it’s lovely to see you posting more frequently once again…I know you recently went back to school, but I’m assuming your holiday break is allowing for a bit more leisure and soap viewing? Great timing, too…this month’s GH may actually prove to be worth the effort it takes to watch! Today’s episode finally had the feeling of the show that I once knew and loved….cannot wait for the arrival of Robert Scorpio! (And welcome back Johnny Z…..looking good!!!)
Well I have made time to watch this at nite because I wanted to see how it played out. Amazing generally it would have been Y&R I would have made time for but everybody is acting like a pod over there so I said nope going to keep my promise to myself and leave it alone. Take care Shay hope you get your xmas wish!
Jake may not want anything to do with Liz after the truth comes out, but he’s going to have to stay connected to her because of whatever is about to come to light with ‘little robot Jake’. Somebody needs to help that poor kid! LOL!
“Little Robot Jake” has become a better actor since Miller has been around.
I don’t think his acting was ever off. When we first met him he was traumatized, shocked and who knows how he was treated by Helena. He was a little “stone cold” just like dad. And, a tad off…which he still is. There’s a lot going on with him…he’s not a “kid”…there nothing childlike about him because of his experiences. I think.k he plays “strange” and reserved very well. I’m hoping we’ll get to his story. Should GH survive and remain on years from now, he’d be a great character to expand upon.
Your right. They all cannot be little Spencers from the start. The kid is getting better, for sure.
“Little Robot Jake” is the perfect Steve Burton mini-me. They’re so much alike, it’s spooky.
@Shay..you’re SO right…mini me, mirror image.
@Fanny….And the same deadpan delivery, too. “Stone Cold,” indeed!
Yes Canny, I agree. said so above. I actually think this kid is great…
Lol…Canny.
Yes, the reveal is so overdue. Jason will need time for himself to sort things out. In the end, I hope he stays with Liz. Sam annoys me. Carly and Sonny expect Jason to be their Jason. They are wrong. I think I think this Jason is a fusion of Jason Quartermaine and Jason Morgan. I like him much better than Jason Morgan.
ITA, Sam and Carly are SO annoying, pushy and NEEDY. But then, so is Liz, lol. None of these women are coming off smelling like a rose, and I like that. Liz and Sam both made some good points during their argument. Yes, Liz keeping Danny from his father was wrong. Trying to marry Jason when she knows darn well he’s already married – wrong! Pathetic! Yes, Sam stringing Patrick along while she tries to get Jason to remember her is wrong. Glad this story is not going to be just “pile on Liz” time. Oh yeah, she’s gonna get hers .. at first .. Jason may even hook up with Sam for awhile, but his love for Liz is a thing of beauty. And he fell in love with her BEFORE Liz found out he was Jason. There’s going to be angst, but I don’t think he and Liz are over. Not by a long shot. They do have a son together. And a history. And I, too, hope when Jason gets his memory back, he remembers ALL his past. And Monica gets her son back.
Forgive me, but I must disagree with you, maddie. I am no fan of Sam, but she had every right to push herself headlong on both Liz and Jason. She is his wife. Apparently they had this great love; she needed to know ‘where do we go from here’. Sam’s rage is well justified. And, yes, Liz and Jason also had a great love, but calling it a thing of beauty is a bit over the top, for me. That expression is reserved for poets where there is honesty and purity involved. From what I have gleaned, Lizzie always managed to ‘claw’ Jason within her orbit by not-so-virtuous means. Thus, any beauty becomes marred; abused; dirtied. So, where’s the beauty (pardon the double entendre) in that? All these women are tainted. But, I do agree, and I have said this all along, Jason may forgive Liz, given time. She strikes me as so flighty, though. Is she capable of being faithful? Are any of them? Perhaps being true to one’s spouse/mate is an alien concept for any soap character. I will not tell you what my Gran calls them… The Scots have very colorful (for lack of a better word) adjectives. I am sure you would blush, if I were even allowed!!
Hey CeeCee, I guess I should’ve specified, JAKE’s love for Liz was a thing of beautly. He was so expressive, just laid everything out there, adored her with everything that was in him. No eyes for anybody else, not even Sam, which is strange, because he should’ve been attracted to both women. But he wasn’t! His heart belonged to Liz from the moment he opened his eyes in that hospital room. Gosh, I loved the way he loved her! Now I suppose he’ll forget all about her and fall in love with Sam. That’ll make the Jasam fans happy. But it makes no sense to those of us who were not Jasam or Liason fans but fell in love with “Lake”.
hi fginaspy..
Jake is Jake, the only life he knows, he is Jake..
but-
He will struggle with being Jason/Stone Cold and he is also a Quartermain..
To make this story good and really intriguingly great, that will depend on how good the writers are, if or if not they can deliver high intriguing drama….
— we will see
((so far Jason’s revel has been a snore, uneventful, no intrigue, no mystery, no much of anything …
It’s been more about Liz and Sam than about Jason.. he has been left out of his reveal LOL ,,
I totally agree
Happy to see Anna, Mac, Monica, Tracy, Laura…
Sonny lecturing Ava on morality and parenting is ironic. Pot meet kettle.
MB … It was soooo nice to see Mac! 🙂
A nice, unexpected surprise! Hope to see the vets more frequently.
I am so looking forward to the truth “finally” coming out. Clearly, in grand soap opera fashion, he will not run into Sam’s arms. He will ponder all of the new info that comes to light on his own, and as we have already heard, he will turn to Sonny, which is fitting. I do think that ultimately, he will end up with Sam (which I am all for), but I believe that will not happen for a while.
I can’t wait for Jason to leave Liz she is completely pathetic, and selfish. The real Jason would never forgive her because he always wanted the truth and he was in love with his wife, so they should find they way back to each other, they were the loves of each other’s lives
Poor Liz can’t seem to win in the love department. Maybe she should think about becoming a lesbian.
Poor Liz could have been happy with her first love Lucky. Cheated on him with his brother. Could have been happy with Rick…dumped him for manipulating abd lying, which is what she has done abd is still doing. She could have been happy with AJ, but abandoned him when he was accused of Connie’s murder. Poor Liz…not. She does have phenomenal skin…I’ll give her that! 😉
Please get off of my cloud.
Team jasam all the way…put him back with Sam Carly sonny ..bring the excitement back ..sick of the boring long drug out storyline
I havent watched todays ep yet but I really want someone to to bitch slap Liz real hard! I hate this manipulative lying tart. Sam is the only one that sees this chick for exactly what she is. She should just let her have Jason because they have made him into an idiot anyway for trusting her so much! that said, hope we can all move on now!
If I may digress…I loved seeing Mac yet at the same time it was a letdown having him pop in…after theres been no mention of either him or Felicia for months. Its ridiculous. The new writers have got to strive for more continuity.
Happily surprised long overdue…
Yes but give the new writers credit for remembering to write for Mac! Just like Bobbi and Valerie’s scenes. Loath Val BUT it was nice seeing Bobbi and it kind of works with Bobbi supporting Val because like Bobbi said, she was no saint either!
As much as I hate Val and FF through all of her scenes, I sucked it up and watched the scenes with Bobbi. Still hate Valerie, but it was great to see Bobbi.
Loved seeing Mac. He and Anna would be a great crime-solving team.
Perhaps I didn’t express myself correctly…I’ll clarify. I loved seeing Mac! I was surprised..didn’t read on this or any site he was making an appearance. But it didn’t work for me. He just showed up with that soap “save”…Felicia and I were worried about you…just Was so obvious that these two characters just disappeared off the show…and magically he’s back.
Its more realistic to me when someone returns…its pack acknowledged they’ve been gone…ie Dillon, Paul, Johnny, Laura…than not mention Mac at all and suddenly there he is.
I’d love if Mac, Lucy, Bobby, Scottie were regularly seen. As it is, they just throw in the o occasional familiar face…
I don’t care how it ends as long as Sam does not end up with Jason. She is no better than the rest of them knowing she wants Jason but hurting Patrick and little Emma.
I don’t understand why anyone wants Jason with someone clearly mentally ill like Liz. No one who is stable and sane would do what she did. She deserves to pay for her actions and for purposely keeping Jason away from his wife and son. I don’t even care if he ends up with Sam or someone new, but I sure as hell don’t wish Liz on him. He can do way better.
Jason does not know he has a wife and son, he is void of Jason, he is still Jake..
No matter what the name is- he is Jake, Jason is gone..
I doubt Jason will ever be written as fully being Jason..
SB Jason/Stone Cold is gone..
Liz has not kept Jason away from his wife and son, in Jake’s world he has no wife and son to be kept away from..
He looks at Sam and he is blank, void of her..
Su, that is not the point, fully. The point is, Liz made a decision that was not hers to make. She took away Jason’s right to his ‘self’. Regardless of the fact he had no memory; knowing his identity would most definitely give him a sense of being, and direction. Outwardly, Jason seemed content. He was in love and lived with the woman with whom he planned a future. Great….all well and good. But this abyss of a quagmire in which was dragging him further and further down; the struggle of keeping afloat would eventually have taken its toll. This was not Liz’s or anyone else’s choice to make. The only time this secret could possibly be acceptable would be if the truth would have hurt Jason in some way. Matter of life and death. Byeyyyy, Suzie Q.
Yup!! Like your post, mlgh.
Agree much. It boggles my mind that some think because he can’t remember there’s.o “crime” committed by keeping him in the dark. Amazes me actually.
I’m starting the countdown clock for Jason’s next brain injury / head trauma. So many whacks to the head that by now he should be left to babbling while playing with Lego.
Doesn’t matter who he picks. He’ll get whacked in the head during sweeps and the fun starts all over again.
OH MY LORD!!!!! Too funny, Torqumada.
I’m so over this over due storyline! we need to get someone like Shonda Rhimes writing team and even Shonda herself in there consulting these writers/producers. Disturbing how long this storyline has gone on…
Why does everyone talk about “Sam and Jason’s son” and completely forget about the son Jason and Liz have. Danny is not the only off spring of Jason’s. I don’t know why the writers had to turn Liz into such a beotch but they did. Sam isn’t much better. Jason fell in love with Liz first, long before Sam showed up in town. Now once again he fell in love with Liz. He is not the same moron he was, thankfully, and hopefully will not return to “stone cold”. Perhaps he will return to medicine and we can move away from all this ridiculous mob crap. The name of this show is still General Hospital. I have watched since it started and believe me the premise of this show has radically changed, and not for the better. If it wasn’t for my FF button, I would rarely tune in.
But, Jason is acting like a moron, rcraig. If he had a brain, he would not jump into moving in with Liz, engagement rings, and entertaining marriage. If he had any sense at all, he would put his head and house in order first.
Hi CeeCee,,
well, the writers wanted Jason hooked-up as soon as possible.
imo- He need to be free to search and find himself have a couple of adventures on his journey to him..
–, he was nowhere ready for an instant family..
but– J&S are love couple writers.. they write couples and their love problems (( BORING! but that’s what is ..
@su
Well, my dear, su. J&S are wrong. LOL. We all appreciate being in love with love, but, the writing needs to be reasonable and sensible and sensitive. Now that the truth is getting closer and closer, these writers need to rethink their writing strategy.
When Liz first started lying to “Jake” he only had a son with Sam. Liz and Jason’s son Jake was dead. Jake was found alive in the summer and it just served to make Liz feel justified in lying to Jason to keep him with her. Elizabeth has always been a bit of a beotch, she got worse and more selfish this year. Her self righteous attitude towards Ric lying to her about Hayden is so hypocritical. I hope that someone calls her on it. Yes, Jason and Liz were in love once but she decided not to be with him because his life was too dangerous. When she told Jason she loved him the last time and could be with him, he chose Sam. He was no longer in love with Liz when he died. He was madly in love with Sam. And he was “stone-cold” because his first brain injury damaged his emotions. It was a physical impediment, so unless this latest brain injury (or Helena) somehow fixed that, he should be less emotional than he has been.
I disagree that Jason finding out Liz aided Nik in keeping his life from him won’t have an impact. If it’s written the way it should be it will devastate him. I think that’s exactly how they’ve been setting it up. He says he didn’t want to be Jason but the minute he found out he punched Nik & screamed about finding out who STOLE his life. Thought he didn’t want it? He DOES want to know, he’s just in denial. Liz is the ONLY person he has trusted fully for over a year! He trusts Sam some but he’s been w/Liz longer than friends w/Ssm. He will know the weight of what she’s done because he will start remembering how much she knew & when & how many times he mentioned a possible family, kids & she lied. There is no good reason she lied. She will say it was to keep him & Danny safe from the mob but that’s not true. She let him walk around w/Sonny’s second hit on him when Shawn screwed up the 1st one. All she had to do was tell Sonny not to shoot because it’s Jason but she didn’t. She wanted him DEAD or alive! As long as Sam didn’t get him. Danny has been exposed to the mob his whole life as Julian Jerome is a hands-on grandpa to him & he has more mob enemies than Jason ever had, regardless if Julian has “retired” (yeah right!)
If not for himself, at the very least he’ll be furious over her hesitating for Danny&Jake to have play dates. Now he’ll know why. She didn’t want him around Danny&that’s cruel. He’ll be furious she aided Nik in taking over ELQ while he was fighting to keep it for Michael. Her actions have hurt others who he knows and cares about. Hayden’s lies basically just hurt him & Liz by keeping them apart. Liz & Nik’s lies will impact many.
I’ve always felt his memories & feelings for Sam & others were right under the surface. I could list the examples, right up til that weird, awkward kiss/hug Sam & he had at his bachelor party. Something was up between both of them there. He didn’t mention to Liz he kissed Sam passionately a few wks either. Did he ever tell her he pretend remarried Sam “filling in” as Jason at Noodle Buddha? Why does he not mention these things? He KNOWS Liz has been acting odd but can’t really go there but now he’s been pushed. I think his devastation will trigger his memory. He’s already gotten it back once when he was going into surgery to get the chip removed. It’s still there. Why do folks not remember that?
I completely agree Laurie. There have been so many times since Jason has been back where it was quite obvious that Jason felt things were familiar or had flashes regarding Sam and his previous life. Not only did he stand in for “Jason” at the pretend ceremony with Sam at the Noodle Buddha but he kept prowling around the backyard while Sam was talking with the owner. It was so obvious that it was all familiar to him but he couldn’t say why. Something has been up with Sam and Jason since the beginning. He instinctively trusted her to help him find out who he was while he kept the search secret from Liz.
How anyone can root for Elizabeth and Jason after what she has done is beyond me. She has lied to him, to his kids, to his wife, to his mother, to his nephew, to his friends. These are all people who he cares about. How can he ever trust her again? If he forgives her then we know that the character of Jason has been irrevocably changed and diminished. Trust and honesty were always very important to Jason.
Ditto and ditto!
Also I really like the scenes these past few days. I like the way they’re setting up & that he finally grew a brain & went to get answers from Sam. How many times now has he disappeared on Liz w/o telling her? Why didn’t he tell her he kissed Sam & remarried Sam at Noodle Buddha? These things matter. Something inside of him instinctively knew not to. He maybe doesn’t trust her all that much but wouldn’t dream it’s as bad as it is.
Many folks aided in this disaster. But for folks to think what her & Nik’s doing isn’t as bad as it’s being written is nuts. This is NO love story. The first few months they were together on screen was sweet. The love story ended at Nurse’s Ball. Liz KNEW she would never get him back even for a little while if she told him so she lied as long as she could to keep him. Why not, right? She knew one day she’d lose him again.
Majority of fans know Liz & Nik are wrong. It’s stated all over social media. Quite frankly, it’s the same folks on these boards & twitter over & over proclaiming this a great love story for Jason & Liz. I’d revolt if I was a fan of their coupling. I’d be fighting mad. I think how they ruined their developing friendship & love was disgusting & unnecessary. If Liz didn’t know he was Jason it would’ve been a better triangle or quad. Don’t care much for Jason but have no doubt, esp after Liz ruined everything, that Sam’s the love of his life that he will remember again. Regardless if they reunite. Don’t think he will ever be w/Liz again. They’re just writing it that way, IMO. They’re writing for it to destroy him & they’re aren’t even being subtle about it. Either I’m blind as a bat or can see it coming a mile away. That’s all. Not picking sides. Just stating facts as I interpret them.
I think Liz will either get pregnant by Nik & say it’s Jason’s to get him back or turn her sights on Nik after Jason dumps her & will work to eliminate Hayden from Nik’s life.
I think GH has been very good last few wks. Hope it keeps up. This is more like sweeps than sweeps was, IMO.
Good post. I agree with you that it’s just the way they are writing this story. It would have been better if both Nik and Liz didn’t know who Jake was, but it looks like they have been sacrificed in the name of propping more Jasam and Carly/Sonny…exactly what we got tired of seeing years ago.
I hope Jason gets the truth soon about Liz’s concealment but am not sure what I want him to do. I hope he doesnt go with Sam as I am tired of her ranting. I hope Patrick doesn’t marry her as she is not serious about him in my opinion and he is leaving.
Since I dont see Jason remembering himself as either version of his past self, why not just let him be Jason Doe and become a new him. Like he has done this past year. Monica is his mother, Carly is his friend and he probably will take a liking to Spin again BUT thats where it should end! Let him be his own new Jason with a new job and a new girl. Billy Miller has too much talent to stay in this ridiculous fog!
Completely agree.
Makes sense to me, Timmm. As long as Jason, in his ‘new self’ will come to love his mother and appreciate his family name and what it represents. In other words, fight to get ELQ and its integrity back. Later.
Thats the nail on the head Cee, become Billy Miller’s Jason BUT he knows he is a Q and his mom loves him and misses him so dearly. She has been through hell and back and he should move into the Q mansion and take ownership of his position in that household and be a dear son. The hell with Liz and Sam! Jason, enjoy your sons and find a new love. Oh Liz and Sam would have a cow if Jason started seeing someone else!
This ridiculous fog is a man’s quest to find his past. It’ something we’d all want to know, have a right to know. What he chooses to do with his memories will then be HIS choice, not Elizabeth’s. He can revert to his old ways, or choose a new path. A rebirth. Again.
But I don’t know why anyone thinks Billy ‘s being wasted. He’s been the center of the show for over a year…he’s played lost, confused, forlorn, strong, controlled, funny, charming…all the while trying to build a life out of nothing.
Perhaps it took too long…especially for those of us who want the reveal to happen. But I’m not quite sure what meatier role he could have…I never saw him as Billy Abbott but when we compare actor’s old characters that we grew attached to we’re bound to be disappointed. Have to separate Roger from Todd to appreciate his Franco. I’ve come to love Franco. Same vein some have to let go of Billy ‘s “Abbott.”
I dont think Billy has been wasted either. As you pointed out, he has gotten to play many different emotions in many different positions. Its weird but I never thought of him as Billy Abbott either. Miller is just that good! I do think the fans just got tired of him walking around in a haze and like I always point out, the longer Jason was Jake the sooner Billy Miller’s contract will expire and he will be in “Mission Impossible Six” or something!
Yes, Timmm. The someone else Jason should be with is Hayden. Can you imagine that?? Kill three birds with one stone….a crow pie in the face to Liz, Sam and Nik. HaHa. Bye, luv.
I thought of Hayden to BUT she has so much sexual fire with the Prince!
@Timmm.
I know, my Timmm. Nothing beats the sexual fire with the right person. But, is what she has with Nik temporary? We don’t know how magnetic Hayden and Jason would be. A lot more passionately and breathtakingly ‘back-scratching’ than the tame love he has with Liz.
However, my point is , my love, …..imagine the clucking, wing-flapping and running around in circles going on within the chicken coop. Ha! Luv-ya.
Ugh…I just want this whole storyline to END! Frankly, I am quite over Carly and Sam, two of the towns biggest biotches to be throwing stones at Liz. Sam had evolved into a more reasonable person over the past few years, but let’s talk about Sam’s transformation into some holier than thou shrew casting stones. I think some viewers have selective memories regarding her. I mean, can you honestly say that Sam wouldn’t have done the same thing if the shoe was on the other foot? I do. In fact, viewers witnessed Sam do worse things in her times of desperation that included and were not exclusive to her witnessing little Jake being kidnapped (and doing nothing), and hiring goons to terrorize Liz and her children. Sadly, while the shiot will likely hit the fan when everyone finds out about Liz’s lie which is being made out to be the crime of the century, the horrible things Sam did were all brushed under the rug (and Sam never apologized to Liz for these things) and I have to wonder what the town of Port Charles including Monica and Laura would think of Sam as a result of learning these things. When Jason found out, he threatened to kill her if she ever did anything like that again. Liz of course should have been more forthcoming to Jason about who he was and it was selfish and wrong, but in retrospect, this lie did not endanger any lives, especially the lives of children and Sam telling Liz that she is worse than Helena is ludicrous. This coming from a former con-woman who has a rap sheet on Who’s Who in Port Charles that is longer than most other GH characters throughout its history.
I agree Liam that if you go back into these women’s past you will find that each of them have done reprehensible things. However, Sam did pay for what she did to Liz many times over. She was the town pariah for a while and she also apologized to Liz several times over the years. She mentioned it even recently when she admitted to not being in a position to throw stones. That behaviour is in her past and you will agree that Sam has made an effort in the last few years to be honest and mature because it has bitten her in the butt with Jason in the past.
Elizabeth is always so self righteous and tries to come off as being so honest and forthcoming but she has always been sneaky and manipulative. That is the point that I think Sam was trying to make with Jason and with Patrick, who both thought that Elizabeth did not have it in her to high jack a life and be so manipulative. Its especially galling to see that level of deviousness from someone who pretends to be sincere and caring.
And if it had been Sam who lied to Jason over these last few months and high jacked his life, I would be hoping that she would get busted too. Liz even threw her son under the bus and did not get him the professional help he needs for fear that she would blow up her cozy little life with Jason. I have to admit it irks me to have fans try to defend Liz’s lies and actions of late saying that it didn’t endanger lives or that Sam would have done the same thing. It does not excuse her actions.
I do not understand how anyone can root for this character and for this couple after everything Liz has done. I do not understand Elizabeth`s appeal.
First off, Liz is not always so self righteous; however, those sound like words Carly or Sam would say after doing something stupid themselves. Secondly, Liz has not always been sneaky and manipulative. I’m not sure what show you have been watching, but it doesn’t sound like the same GH that I have watched (since the late 70’s) and I have continued to watch throughout Liz’s entire tenure. When she first arrived to GH, she was a teenager who DID act sneaky and manipulative, but that personality changed for the most part once she was raped. Sure she’s done things that have been selfish, but so has Carly, Sam, and many other GH characters. I find it quite remarkable that you do not understand how anyone can root for Liz, but am I to assume that you think people can or should root for characters like Carly and Sam considering all of the criminal and horrible things those characters have done??????
you want jason to “smack” down liz? are you advocating violence towards women? do you really hate liz that much? i love the character and i do want her to feel shame for what she’s done, i just don’t want her getting beat by the likes of sam or carly who have done worse not just to liz but other characters. this two girls sam and carly are mean or turn really nasty when things don’t go their way, so i’m all for liz but not necessaryly am i for her “winning” jason. i want liz to feel really guilty for what she did but no way do i want the likes of carly thinking she’s right about anything, this women should be the last throwing any stones at anyones direction.
Aria, of course I am not advocating violence against women and I am pretty sure you know that. Giving someone a smack down is just a term that means telling them off pretty severely which is exactly what she deserves.
Its funny how you keep seeing hate and even violence in my words when I never once said that I hate Liz. I do think her actions and behaviour in this Jason debacle are disgusting and reprehensible. And I also never said that I root for Sam or Carly. If you would stop comparing Liz to Sam or Carly, you would see that her actions do not deserve any compassion or understanding. There is no getting away from the fact that Liz was wrong lying to Jason for months.
Hey, tatiana. I get what you are saying. “A smack-down” is used as an idiom; an adage, per se. Same as, “I am so hungry; I could eat a horse”. English Class/Grammar/Lit 101.
And, yes….each of them has indulged in vile behavior, one time or other.
liam you rock, i agree with you, especially when liz hater try to bring up that she was once a manipulator, really? she was a teenager, that hardly counts, and now she’s looking out for herself, like sam and carly don’t do the same, please, they’re worse. I do hate the show trying to make liz so desperate but still compare to sam and carly she’s tame in my opinion. And liz is right about carly what kind of sick perversion does she have with jason? does she want to be his best friend like brother and sister from another mother as the saying goes or does she want him as her friend with benefits? carly is a ho, so its probably the ladder.
Liam and Aria : whew! it’s simply just great to see “Liz” fans…
this trio is REELing ! I just don’t think it’s going any where near … for “all” the Liz and Sam fans
I’m bowled over… but not undone… by all the spewing of vitriol
@Liam
“many” thank you’s; over and over
first and foremost…. of the two LEADing Women to choose from…
it’s Rebecca Herbst from the get go
i’m going to let this ride out now… because; I totally agree, with; what you said above… the GH production team… is going full steam ahead, with ; Jason and Sam & Carly and Sonny. two dull couples
all being led by a screeching sexually frustrated trapped in middle age plus, Carly… she just doesn’t know whats fun anymore
Sonny… who , LOL… is the king pin… but hasn’t really done any thing… as befitting a title… has every other hitmen do his bidding… and we are left with ??? Sonny spilling his seed , his romantic scenes with Laura Wright gag me! Both Sonny and Carly can cry over all their “children” and attempt to carry this show again…
Sam, acts like she’s auditioning for the lead in Love Story; as Ali MacGraw… so devoid of thought process to even stammer any thing intelligible… so bereft and put upon… her yearning and passionless expression… she lacks everything a man would get sick of
Jason… it’s not Billy Miller… he hasn’t been present on screen since he left Y&R… any one can count… on one hand… the number of scenes , near 5 ? that give any indication of BM true acting talent…
THESE new head writers.. have been on screen for upwards of 3 months now… me thinks GH production are relying heavily on these 4 mentioned… to carry the show… and theirs no promise of anything to anticipate
Carly, Sam, Liz, Jason, Nicholas, Sonny… all their past discretion and misdeeds… LOL
come to light ?
wouldn’t it be something… if they did go with Sam and Jason… budda bing budda bing… cherries on top… auld lang syne.. whoop de do… spiral dullsville… “what will Sam do then” prop her hot kittens and purr … we at least got to see Jason being sensitive, and, responding to Liz… back and forth… and a give and take… (in the works?)… perhaps Liz has been holding back some…
if Jason sees the light and still returns Liz affections…. fireworks Liz.. a no holds barred on how to get that man fired up
it’s been a treat nontheless to see Rebecca Herbst on screen
I find it amusing that Liz supporters can only support her actions when comparing them to Carly or Sam. Really? So Carly and Sam have become the moral barometers of the show? Wow, that is pretty sad. Carly is probably the most annoying and hypocritical character on the show but she is right about Jason. He should be making an effort to find out who he is before he makes life changing decisions and shackles himself to Liz.
Elizabeth has always been self righteous but I agree she has not always been manipulative. I actually used to like her way back before she cheated on Lucky with Jason and then later with his brother. She also bedded Zander who happened to be in love with Emily, her best friend at the time. And then tried to convince Ric that she was pregnant with his baby when it was really Zander’s. Shall I go on?
I’ve been watching the same show you have but I don’t judge the characters’ actions against each other. I judge their actions against what I think is bad behavior, regardless of who is acting out. Its funny how Liz supporters seem to forgive and forget her lies, her cheating, her manipulations (she always tries to use her “boys” whenever she tries to weasel out of a deserved smack down) and then say she is not as bad as other characters on the show! LOL.
I don’t care what other characters have done, Elizabeth deserves to get busted and dumped for lying to Jason. I am still waiting for the royal smack down from Jason she so richly deserves!
I do not think anyone hates Liz, Aria. You love using that word so loosely. I love the actress, loved the character, as well. I do not like her actions at this point. I am not well-versed on any of these characters. So I call ’em as I see ’em. I like neither Sam nor Kelly M. I do not like Carly, but I love the actress (Laura). I stand my ground. Jason should be with no one. I think the writers should have given Jason the chance to get to know both Sam and Liz and then have him make a choice…or make one at all.
Are you condoning what Liz did? Do you want her to go unscathed? I want her to pay the piper, not from hate, but for justice. There is always the chance that Jason will forgive her. But, not now. He needs time alone. And, I definitely do not want him with Sam and be bored to death. Honestly, Aria? I am not familiar with either the word nor the feeling of hate.
I like to see Jason become a Quartermaine and a wsb agent
Absolutely my point, Allen.
I know … right , Allen?
this would make everything, right… and calm both “fandom’s” if that’s how this is?
ugh! as I’ve always said… if the writing stinks…. watch the actors… hence why we get caught up in… “fandom” and looking at whos paired with who for chemistry.
easy to do
altho… I think he’d have better story as a doctor; doing, his internship at General Hospital.
question : for any of the women who choose to answer…. is it possible that women hold women up to higher standards ????
I just feel like Liz is being dragged over the coals… ala Ryans daughter… and will have to walk through town as if she’s been tarred and feathered to atone for her sins
posts say… just let the friggin story play out
LOL… sometimes one has to share
p.s.: when Billy screamed out… to Sam as she was disrespecting him and Liz in their own house
“Get OUT” get out of our house, i’m done with you”
YES… at that instant in Sam; eyes you could tell… there may not ever be a chance ( even; when, he went back, later that night, to apologize) and now knows the truth.
I need to rephrase that: a woman is going to look after her own; first… because of love and family
bearing in mind… both Sam and Liz… knew in their heart… Jason love(s) them
neither of their relationships ended badly… thereby giving each woman a heart rendering
To a certain extend, yes, Patrick. Women, those who hold themselves to a higher standard, do expect other women’s dais to be rsised a notch. Then, there are those women, in real life, with loose morals ( there are nouns in which I could use to describe them, but I will not) who find exception to what Liz did. But, this is not real life. Rebecca H is a fan favorite, which includes myself. She’s a great actress. So, it sort of becomes hard for some to descriminate. I can pick characters apart most of the time, whether I like them or not. I try to be fair. Until Liz showed this dark side, I was completely enraptured by her. Then, I felt deflated; betrayed, almost.
I also wanted to point out that, as a man, I know you do not want to be used as a patsy. It has something to do with the male ego and pride, no? Jason was hurt; felt betrayed, and for good reason, don’t you think?
At this point, as I indicated earlier, Jason is in a quandary….so am I. Who knows what the writers will have him do. Go back to Liz? Try to rebuild a life with Sam? Go to mommy’s house? Miraculously only remember his medical training? I can only hope he will be Jason Q. When I asked my husband, Patrick, he said that memory or not, one never forgets technical memories; never forgets studies (such as medical training)….or, just like driving a car, swimming or riding a bike…never forgets. Jason is riding his Harley D without a problem, yes? LOL.
However, I am a little confused. Do you find what Liz did inconsequential? Do you agree she has been a bad girl? What many seem to completely dismiss here is that honesty was stomped upon. That is the crux of the matter. I am sure Jason would have forgiven Liz much, if only she had met him half way and had been honest. That’s all, my friend. Bye.
he’s got the skill why not use it for good instead of for sonny.
at the very least
geez louise: the much lauded back to back Leading Man Emmy winning performance
to see his command ??? what…
almost like pandering… beneath him… to be left to serve, if you will
Sonny and Carly
I saw yesterday’ ep: Sonny… ” we need him more than ever”
and Carly, once again… (along with Sam) “what are you afraid of? why hiding? the real you is in their… you needed to know the truth
this is not the way to go
ok-
This is to be Jake/Jason’s story, finding out who/what he is, finding himself.
yet, the Jason revele has been about everybody buy Jason..
It’s liz and Sam, Patrick and Sam, Laura, Nik, Hayden, Carly and poor Jake/Jason has been left out of his story/reveal..
The writing is horrible ..
su0000…You make a really good point. It has been about everyone but Jason. But that’s also because Jason has made the decision not to investigate his past. He has been in denial about who he is since he found out.
No matter what happens one thing is for sure: Sam is going to be “processing” it for weeks to come…
Too funny, Allan. She should process the ideal intonation of her voice.
I want liz to tell the truth about jason…its been a while…whatever happens then thats it…if jason chose her though she lied thats good but everything will change…i hope it will end those lies and tell him that nickolas knows it
I propose that if they put Jason back in the mob, that those of us who disagree with this move, pick one day out of one week and we boycott the show. Just for that one show during that one week and only on that one day. Don’t you think that would get the writers attention and cause them to listen to the fans!? I mean if one show dropped dramatically in viewership it would raise more than eyebrows!
Anyway too soon to jump the gun. We don’t know where this is going just yet, so until then I’ll keep running in.
Maybe they could cut Valerie and some other dead-weight and bring back Greg Vaughn as Lucky. I always liked his Lucky. (Not to mention his hotness)
Move Jason into a new orbit, preferably away from Sam, Liz, Carly and Sonny. He could team up with Michael, Tracy & Monica and fight Nickolas for ELQ. (And maybe Hayden?) I’m liking her much more than I thought I would. I could take or leave Greenlee on AMC.
I don’t necessarily dislike Sam or Liz but this would be a good time to put some new life into Jason. I truly came to hate that character and did the happy dance when Steve Burton left.
Any legit fan of GH knows Sam is Jason’s Best Friend. Hayden is a non factor..why even entertain that idea. Liz loves every man who wants her. If there was anything real before between them before, Jason would have married Liz. He didn’t. He never TRULY loved Liz..she is a damsel in distress and guys fall for her fairness. If Jason can’t remember his past..it’s not fair to Sam or Danny to watch Liz be a family under the circumstances. Jason should reconne t with his blood..the Quartermaine’s..and work on his injuries. Love has no room in Jason’s life. He needs to be there for his kids. Period. Forget Elizabeth..Sam is his wife and Jason should consider the damage caused by way Bing his father be with Elizabeth. Not good for the boys.
General Hospital
GENERAL HOSPITAL: Lucas Gives Wiley To Michael; While Willow Learns the Devastating Truth
Friday’s episode of General Hospital, brought the highly-emotional moments viewers had been waiting for all-week long; following the year and a half reveal that Nelle (Chloe Lanier) and Brad (Parry Shen) engineered a baby switch with Willow’s (Katelyn MacMullen) dead baby, Wiley being passed off as Michael (Chad Duell) and Nelle’s newborn, Jonah, and Jonah being raised by Brad and Lucas (Ryan Carnes) as Wiley. Now with the truth out, it was time for two of the heaviest beats of the story to be played out.
When Willow comes to at the hospital with Chase (Josh Swickard) by her side, needless to say she is dazed and freaking out that Nelle took Wiley. Chase tells her he has some things to tell her and it’s not going to be easy to hear. Willow braces herself and then Chase tells her the story of the baby switch and how her baby died a SIDS death while at Brad and Lucas’ and then how the babies were switched.
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In a heartbreaking and powerful performance from Katelyn MacMullen (yes, she is our pick for “Power Performance of the Week”), Willow struggles to come to grips with the truth and starts to realize all of Brad’s machinations, as she thinks back to herself how could she do that to her son … to trust him with Brad, only to have the little infant die. The devastation played by MacMullen, whose Willow, now must realize her baby never lived the full and happy young life she thought, was gut-wrenching.
Meanwhile, in yet another top-notch performance, William deVry (Julian) showed the pain and the need to unburden himself as Julian talks to his sister. Ava (Maura West) and spills what happened. He goes so far to admit to Ava that he knew what Brad had done. Ava cannot believe he did not go to Sonny (Maurice Benard) right away with this Intel, but Julian just could not do this to his son, Lucas and rip the baby from his arms. Julian says he will face-off with Sonny and not leave town, if it comes to that. Ava says they have to come up with a way to silence Brad … before Brad gives up Julian’s part in the whole baby cover-up.
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And in yet another masterful performance, we have to give it up to Chloe Lanier. Who can play Nelle and spin stories and the tears so well, that if you did not know this pathological liar you would think she is telling the truth. When in opposing holding cells at the PCPD, Nelle lays it on about Brad so that the guard can hear them. She blames Brad for being the instigator in the baby switch and taking advantage of her – a distraught new mother, confused and dazed on the route where the baby switch happened. It works! Brad is moved to a different cell and thinks look very grim for him. Nelle smiles through her crocodile tears!
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Then, in what we all knew had to happen, and even so, was still as heartbreaking as ever; Lucas spends his final moments with Wiley as his father in the kitchen at the Corinthos’ along with Bobbie (Jackie Zeman) and Carly (Laura Wright). Lucas starts to tell his mother and sister, all the things Wiley needs and likes, such as having a story read to him. All of this brings the tears as they know Lucas has to give the child back to Michael; who has been robbed of a year and half as the baby’s rightful father.
Michael tells Lucas they will work this out, so Lucas remains a constant in Wiley’s life. He also tells Sonny and Sasha (Sofia Matteson) he feels so badly for Lucas, but they tell him to be happy for this chance to have the son he grieved for. In the end, a tear-filled Lucas hands Wiley to Michael as everyone watches on in sadness for one father … and joy for the other. Ryan Carnes was poignant in the scenes; as was Chad Duell.
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So, what did you think of the performances from Friday’s GH featuring Katelyn, Ryan, Chad, William, Chloe and Parry? Comment below.
General Hospital
GENERAL HOSPITAL: Michael Blasts Brad As The Truth About Wiley Comes Out
FINALLY! On Wednesday’s episode of General Hospital, Lucas (Ryan Carnes) memory is jogged just enough that he clearly remembers Brad’s (Parry Shen) shocking words before their car crash; where Brad confessed that Wiley was Nelle (Chloe Lanier) and Michael’s (Chad Duell) biological son.
At the Corinthos home, Lucas stands up and announces to Michael that Wiley is actually his believed to be dead son, Jonah. Carly’s (Laura Wright) mouth drops and then she takes over getting to the root of the truth of the baby switch.
Brad is cornered and left with no choice but to fess up. He explains how Wiley died when he was no longer breathing, and how he was driving with him, when he ended up on the route where Nelle left Michael to die in the car he was driving (Michael recalls this bit of Intel in a flashback).
Then, Brad explains how Nelle appeared with her newborn baby and claimed the whole thing was engineered by Nelle … and how he was so upset and panicked, that he went along with her plan.
Michael lets Brad have it for all of his lies and machinations, and the pain it has inflicted on so many people for over a year and half. How on earth could he do that? Carly also lays into him.
Meanwhile, Sasha (Sofia Matteson) has urgently called Chase (Josh Swickard), who leaves “Wiley” and Willow (Katelyn MacMullen) behind, and heads to the Corinthos’ where he hears the whole sad truth about the baby switch.
With Chase gone, Nelle goes looking for “Wiley” who is with Willow, and the two get into a major throwdown catfight. Nelle comes out the victor and goes to get her baby ready to leave town with her son.
So, what did you think of how the truth finally came out? What did you think of Michael’s tirade on Brad? What do you think will happen next? Comment below.
General Hospital
GH’s James Patrick Stuart Talks on Valentin’s Downfall and Potential Rise to Power
After all his bravado, machinations and lies to keep the woman he loves, and believing he was the rightful heir to the Cassadine fortune, suddenly it all came crashing down for Valentin Cassadine (James Patrick Stuart) on recent episodes of General Hospital.
Payback can be a bitch, but for Valentin; who’s past has been fraught with numerous physical and emotional tribulations since his childhood, he now finds himself at the lowest point in his life; losing Nina (Cynthia Watros) who’s now taken up with Jax (Ingo Rademacher), realizing he is the biological son of the evil Helena Cassadine (Constance Towers), and not Mikkos, and having all his best laid plans and misdeeds backfire. (Remember, he shot and “killed” Nikolas, and set up the ruse that led Sasha to pretend she was Nina’s bio-daughter.) Now, enter Nelle Benson (Chloe Lanier), who could very well hold the ticket, to Valentin’s rise to wealth and power all over again.
Michael Fairman TV chatted with James Patrick Stuart to get the lowdown on: those heavy and emotional scenes opposite Constance Towers, working with Cynthia Watros as his newest Nina, if Valentin might really kill Jax the next time he thinks about it, and what about a potential relationship between Anna (Finola Hughes) and Valentin?
Not many can play bad as good as James in this industry. He does it so effortlessly and still brings out the humanity in the guy that has t-r-o-u-b-l-e written all over him. Here’s what James had to share about all of Valentin’s recent dramatic moments, a tease of what’s to come, and much more.
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Valentin’s world has imploded at the moment. When did you initially find out that he was going to turn out to not be a true Cassadine heir?
JAMES: Well, there were some clues dropped by Frank Valentini (executive producer, GH) back when we did the gallery auction where Helena’s portrait went up in flames. Frank looked at me and goes, “Hey, Jack Nicholson it up. Have some fun! You’re not going to be feeling pretty good for a while.” (Laughs) I’m like, “Oh … what are the plans?” He pulled me aside and goes, “Yeah, you’re going to lose Nina, but you’re going to try to take over ELQ. That’s when I started to go, “Wait a minute! That sounds to me like Valentin’s losing his money.” (Laughs) With the character of Nikolas (Marcus Coloma) coming back; it’s pretty great. I think the writing was on the wall there. I put it out on twitter the other day. I said, “Look what they’ve done to my boy.” Somebody chimed in, “They gave him a storyline!” (Laughs)
Who doesn’t love to see you, James Patrick Stuart, play tortured soul? They audience loves to see you get the opportunity to go to those depths in your performances.
JAMES: It’s been really interesting for me. I’ve had a lifetime of playing bad guys because the line was always shorter. (Laughs) Everybody wants to be Tom Cruise, but the Alan Rickman’s of it all, to me, were what was so interesting. Early on, you play one dimensional kind of twisting of the mustache, tying a woman to the train tracks. After a while, you start to watch the truly great actors. They start to take you on a ride. If you’re paying attention, you start to feel what it would be like to be that damaged, and that’s why you do it. Then you start to see the vulnerability. To me, I thought, “This is a great time in my life because I’m ready to do that.” A lot of people say, “I don’t understand. I feel like that makes no sense. because why would I root for a person who behaves like this?” and that to me, I feel is the greatest compliment of all.
So much happened recently to Valentin in one fell swoop; he overhears Nina telling Ava (Maura West) she kissed Jax, then he envisions shooting Jax and then he is drinking himself into oblivion and he gets a “visit” from Helena! But … the scenes between Valentin and Helena really summed up the bitter truth for him, wouldn’t you say?
JAMES: Yes. In the “Helena” scenes, it all basically is revealed. It all comes down in a moment where he “sees” her. I think he realizes with the DNA test; he’s not the person he thought he was, but he certainly had no idea that he had her blood in his veins. The truly tragic moment of the evening is when it dawns on him that he has a daughter with Helena’s blood in her veins. Now, he would kill her a thousand times over in that moment. He can’t do it. He’s fighting phantoms. That’s the bottom below the bottom, and things got worse than he ever thought they would get.
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Does Valentin have any idea then, who his biological father could be?
JAMES: I don’t think so. I don’t believe so. I know I don’t. I think once he realizes that Helena is in fact the mother, I think he’d rather just go into oblivion. I think at that point, he’s out of answers. Enter Alexis (Nancy Lee Grahn) …which is wonderful because I think the world of Nancy, and she saves the day. Alexis basically talks him out of hurting himself, telling him to count his blessings that he is not a Cassadine, etc, which was a really sweet moment.
I assume, when you have this kind of material to play, it must be exhausting, but exhilarating at the same time?
JAMES: I think that’s exactly right. As an actor, I think you want to do this stuff. Maura West and I compare notes all the time. I think it can be kind of emotionally draining. You do feel it, and I felt it when I had spent a lot of time with Nina and Valentin, and when the actresses changed, and we brought Cynthia Watros in. I worked twice as hard to make sure that Cynthia’s landing was as easy as possible, and I really grew attached to the Nina and Valentin connection. So, when Jax steps in, Cynthia’s love life means nothing to me, I don’t care about that, but Nina’s love life means a lot to me! And it bums me out, and I don’t know that I’ll actually be watching any future love scenes between them as much as I love them both! I have a deep attachment to the Valentin connection to Nina. So, the lines get burred because we just play these characters so long.
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What was it like sharing those tough scenes with Constance? No one can play icy, evil villainess like her … and yet in real life, she is such a gracious and kind-hearted woman.
JAMES: In real life, Constance is such a sweetheart, and she’s so grateful to be there. She was so ready to work, and rehearse, and play, and find the stuff, and she was great. I’d been in scenes with her before. Last time, we didn’t really talk to each other. I was with the hump. I was being Valentin pre-surgery. It was some sort of moment in a graveyard, but this time we actually got to interact with each other.
You look at Valentin, and he’s not had the greatest life. Do you bring his entire back-story into your performance; such as when he was deformed with the hump and how he had to literally reconstruct his life both in the physical and in emotional ways for many years?
JAMES: Absolutely. It’s the brokenness that he’s making choices from. He was never truly and authentic person to begin with which is why his love fell apart. He’s always been faking. He’s always been putting on a show. That’s not sustainable in matters of the heart. It was unbelievably easy for Jax to swoop in, because it was inevitable that things were going to fall apart. Of course, that anger and that brokenness were what lead him to want to kill Jax. There’s no question. He was prepared to do that. If you look in the eyes in the fantasy sequence in the shooting, he just wanted to watch him die. He wanted to watch the light go out in Jax’s eyes. He was so furious … and even more tragic is … that was all he could think of, and somehow, he realized in that moment that wouldn’t work, because he’d lose his daughter.
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Anna and Finn (Michael Easton) just kind of busted up. Do you think Anna and Valentin will hookup? There is a connection and a history between the two of them whenever they seem to be in proximity of one another.
JAMES: Personally, I’m waiting for that. I hope so! There is a finesse and elegance to that woman, and not only that, there is an effortless to the connection between Valentin and Anna, if one can say that about one’s own coupling. I love to look at it! I think we go together like a wink and a smile. I just find that chemistry really great. I think that’s mostly Finola, though. She can probably have chemistry with most anything.
Valentin was going to leave Port Charles with Charlotte (Scarlett Fernandez), after Nikolas revealed all and the fallout began. Interestingly enough, it was Anna who came to Valentin’s side and tried to talk him down from fleeing with his daughter and showed such compassion for him!
JAMES: Wasn’t that great? She was the one who got him. She was the one who was able to calm the beast. There was no one else he would have listened to. In the moment in the police station, after Charlotte had been kidnapped, and there is that moment where Anna has that bruise, I thought it was such a tender moment. I just said, “If I kiss my finger and touch your wound?” and she’s like, “Do it.” It was just this moment where we had been bitter rivals and enemies for so long, but he just adores her so much it’s undeniable that he sees her wounded and wants to make it better. It’s floating out there waiting to be done. I know that everybody knows it. It’s just a matter of what the right away to go about in the writing would be.
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So, you’ve worked opposite two acting dynamos in the role of Nina – Michelle Stafford and now, Cynthia Watros. Was the transition difficult for you when Cynthia came to GH?
JAMES: It wasn’t. It was scary because Michelle Stafford wasn’t just one in a million, I mean, she is one of a kind. The last thing in the world that I would ever want to consider doing myself was recast that actress. So, my deal was (and I’ve said this to Cynthia) I said, “I have no control over this. All I can do is make the landing as easy as possible for Cynthia.” We did a lot of photoshoots together, and I had flowers waiting for her, and I did everything possible to make sure that she knew that she had a friend and that she had somebody that was going to make it as easy as possible. It was rough because a lot of the trolls on social media were just awful to her… just brutal, and she goes, “I have thick skin. I can take it,” and then a week later, she goes, “I’ve closed all my social media accounts!” (Laughs) It’s been fun to watch those guys turn around and go, “You have a really special person.” That wedding stuff was just incredible! She came so prepared and she knocked it out of the park. Cynthia has been wonderful. I love them both. I love her the reddest, and I love Michelle the bluest, and together I love them the purplest. (Laughs)
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It’s interesting that all the women in his life such as Anna and Nina, all have a soft-spot for Valentin; even though they don’t necessarily want to be with him. These ladies are just drawn to this dysfunctional guy.
JAMES: Don’t you think? Is it that you want to help him, you want to fix him, you see the potential, you want to help him despite himself? I think that’s what it is.
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Do you think Valentin’s still going to try to win Nina back, or is that done?
JAMES: I don’t know. I do know that the Valentin I know will never shake Nina, and when he loves, he loves forever. He can be simultaneously in love with Anna whenever she’s near. I don’t believe he ever truly got over Nina hearing his story and his brokenness and still loving him twice as hard. Years ago, there was a moment where he said to her the stuff that he’s never said, and Michelle beautifully kissed my tears away and said, “You’re beautiful” to me. I think in that moment his fate was sealed. I think he knew that this was his woman forever. So, I just don’t think that that goes away. I think he will always carry a torch for Nina, for sure.
Do you see Valentin becoming darker and darker now that he had found out he is Helena’s offspring?
JAMES: Well, yes and no. I remember watching these scenes and we’ve done a lot of this stuff, and you know how easy it is to sort of go, “Let’s go dark, let’s go dark, let’s go more dark,” and after a while, I go, “You know, maybe he does learn something. Maybe there’s hope for this guy after all.” Of course, more bad stuff will happen to him, and he will do more bad stuff, because that’s just who he is. A leopard can’t change his spots, and those are his survival instincts, but there are some new colors, and it’s all a direct result of all of just these horrible things that have happened to him… mostly learning that he is part Helena and he can’t undo that.
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We saw that Nelle (Chloe Lanier) called and then goes to see Valentin, because she wants to sell her shares of ELQ. So, obviously he has the potential to become really rich here which is what would give him his power back. How do you think that will go over with the rest of the Quartermaines? (Laughs)
JAMES: (Laughs) A lot of the Quartermaine actors have been asking me that in the hallways of General Hospital! Isn’t that interesting how he’ll just sort of switch families? (Laughs)
Of all the people, just as Valentin’s life is in the gutter and he is at his lowest, who should show up with a sort of lifeline, Nelle! How will he go about attempting to gain control of ELQ?
JAMES: Valentin knows he has to get the majority shares to gain a control of the company, and he has to do it fast before people see that he’s doing it. So, that’s where Michael E. Knight (Martin Gray) has been. He’s gallivanting the states rapidly accumulating shares. (Laughs)
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It’s been so fun seeing you and Michael Knight on-screen and on a daytime soap together again, as so many remember you as Tad Martin and Will Cortlandt on All My Children. How has it been getting the chance to work with Michael?
JAMES: My God, are you kidding me? He taught me! He’s the guy who taught me. I didn’t know how to do this. Nobody instinctively knows… this is a very unique art form. It’s more Jazz than anything else, and he showed me how to do it! Walt Willey (Ex-Jack, AMC) showed me how to do my hair, and Michael Knight taught me how to break down a script! And, what’s so funny is he is still doing it. In a scene on GH, when he threw in that line, “From now on, you pay in advance,” I just about fell on the floor! I thought, “There he is! That’s the Michael I’ve always known and loved.”
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Who would have thought that you guys would get to share scenes like that again on soaps? You just never know in this life who may be wind up back in your orbit.
JAMES: It’s incredible. That’s what we say all of the time… “Who would have thought?” You could never plan something like this and that we’d still be doing it at this point.
Now with Lulu (Emme Rylan) learning that Valentin is not a Cassadine, and Nina apparently moving on to a relationship with Jax, what do you think it will mean for their relationship in raising their daughter, Charlotte?
JAMES: I think in the short-term, Valentin’s shelved any ideas of getting her out of Charlotte’s life. He’s sort of putting out the fires in his own personal life. Charlotte needs a mother in her life, and he’s quite willing to share custody as they always have been. She seems to be looking at this as an opportunity to paint him as an unfit father, and she wants full-time custody. So, we’re back to that again. It looks to me like Lulu is kicking Valentin while he’s down.
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It was so nice to see you, and some of your GH co-stars such as: Steve Burton (Jason) and Maurice Benard (Sonny) show up for Y&R’s Eric Braeden’s (Victor Newman) 40th anniversary on set celebration at CBS. It was quite the event; speakers galore, and so many from our industry and beyond in attendance.
JAMES: It was pretty profound. Eric has always been kind to me. I only worked with him on one movie, a western, called The Man Who Came Back, and that was probably 12 years ago. He has been so complimentary of me in interviews and in his book. So, if he does that with me, I can only imagine how many dear, dear friendships he has. So, the fact that everybody showed up like that from the president of CBS Entertainment to local councilmen, and that they were willing to do be there for 2 hours was really proof of how much they love him. Peter Bergman (Jack, Y&R), who I don’t even think was working that day, came in for it and spoke at the event. There was so much respect shown for Eric and what he has meant to this medium.
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Your album The Apple Tree was so well-received, and everyone always loves seeing you get the opportunity to sing on General Hospital as well. Will you continue to put out more music in 2020?
JAMES: Yeah, that’s the plan. I have another one that I’m working on. I have a bunch of songs. I’m in no rush to get it out. Unfortunately, I lost Glen Roven, who wrote the cello part for Book of Love, passed away right after the Nurses’ Ball where I played Book of Love, which is really heartbreaking, and then, Michael Sherwood, who helped me with a number of songs on the record passed away right after The Apple Tree came out. So, I’m a little gun-shy. But, I’m planning on having something out by December for Christmas.
In closing, what would you say the fans should look forward to in the weeks ahead from Valentin?
JAMES: Look forward to that moment where Valentin is so low that there’s nowhere to go but up! The comeback is going to be one for the books.
So, what do you think of how Valentin’s life hit rock bottom? Do you think he will ever win Nina back? Do you think he will takeover ELQ? Share your thoughts on James’ recent performances and his thoughts contained in this interview via the comment section below.
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