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TV Guide on Why ABC lost Hope for Its Soaps!

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Today TV Guide has an analysis and commentary on why ABC lost hope for its soaps and decided to pull the plug on One Life to Live and All My Children. And the cost analysis of putting on a daytime soap per week as opposed to the new reality shows, The Chew and The Revolution. Here are the key ‘takeaways’ from the news item below!

“Greater choice and audience fragmentation have meant lower ratings for all programs. The daytime soaps built their cost structure during a time when the networks had little competition. The ratings have reached a point where even after cutbacks, ABC was on a path to lose money on All My Children and One Life to Live if they stayed on the air next year. The cost of producing each ABC soap ran from $750,000 to $1 million a week.

The new shows that will replace them will each be $575,000 a week or less. There’s The Chew, a food-centric lifestyle show hosted by chefs Mario Batali, Michael Symon, Top Chef‘s Carla Hall and nutrition expert Daphne Oz, and The Revolution (working title), a health and lifestyle show with Tim Gunn. And unlike soaps, the episodes can be repeated.

CBS is already seeing higher profits for its new daytime chatfest The Talk, even though the ratings are slightly below those of As the World Turns, the soap it replaced. When CBS recently gave multiyear renewals to The Young and the Restless and The Bold and the Beautiful, it was at significantly lower license fees.  Many viewers will miss the soaps, just as some miss the variety show, the big-budget miniseries and other TV fare of a bygone era. It’s the price viewers pay for living in a multi-channel world, where they can watch what the want when they want.”

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Chris
Chris

All I know is when AMC and OLTL goes off the air my TV will turned to NBC Days of Our Lives and CBS Young and The Restless. I have no interest in watching these replacements.

Brooke
Brooke

When AMC goes off, I will be watching Y&TR to see many of my GH faves who have or are on their way their. In fact, I have begun recording it already. I already only have ABC on during the hours that all three soaps air. I used to watch Dr. Oz and Oprah right after, but not since this decision was made.
Before and after, I tune to another channel.

EVERYONE should boycott ALL ABC programming EXCEPT for the three soaps!

GLORIA mULLEN
GLORIA mULLEN

We should all boycott abc Ireally looked forward to watching these shows I will chage to another channel so all other programs on after them will also loose their ratings Ill have to see what channel 5 has to offer!!!! Thumbs down abc

mike
mike

The ABC soaps downturn was due to Brian Frons. They could still be viable under the right leadership.

moneek
moneek

Absolutely!

Rob
Rob

I hope Brian Frons Chokes on the Chew.

lew
lew

HA! I like that!

Allie
Allie

That was beautiful.

GLORIA mULLEN
GLORIA mULLEN

This is what america really need another food show isnt america to fat now!!!!Down with abc

Brooke
Brooke

Michael, why do you bother directing us to yet another ABC apologist? Why give them the press?

david
david

Here’s another take on the TV Guide story that is worth reading:
http://daytimeconfidential.zap2it.com/2011/04/25/cheap-crap-abc-daytimes-replacement-shows-to-cost-under-575000

Quoting from the above link: “As for The Revolution, that show is having to be completely retooled, because it sucked donkey balls, according to my sources. Instead of telling Frank Valentini, “Look man, I need you get the budget under $600,000 a week. I know it will be tough, but it is what it is,” ABC is going to tear apart a show that is turning out stellar episodes and is Number 3 among women 18-49, for a show that wasn’t good enough for the fall? I’m sad about AMC’s fate, but what’s being done to One Life to Live is flat out criminal.

Let’s reflect again on the many, many failed reality/talk projects Brian Frons and Co.attempted to get off the ground at SOAPnet. . . .

I don’t care how many ways they try to spin it, I’ll never be convinced it makes good business sense to allow Brian Frons to oversee the transition of ABC Daytime away from soaps to programming women are allegedly clamoring for more of. This is the man who was surprised by Kathy Brier’s success on One Life to Live because she doesn’t look like a Playboy Bunny. Guess what, neither do most American women. Now Frons wants to micromanage a weight loss reality show? Really?

We’re talking about the guy who put amazing talents like Jackie Zeman, Leslie Charleson, Catherine Hickland and countless other veteran actresses out to pasture fo no other reason than they got older. I have a question for Frons: If actresses’ freshness expires at the age of 50, what about executives? What’s good for the goose oughta be good for the micromanager. I’d say Frons is well past his sell by date.”

GLORIA mULLEN
GLORIA mULLEN

I agreee totally!!!!!!!!!!@

Kristin
Kristin

While obesity is a major health problem in the U.S. and Canada, why would we want another tv show on FOOD. There are some of us out here that prefer to watch other shows. You waste our time on Reality shows which are getting more trashy per new show. Not everyone out here watches these types of tv shows either. I am in my mid- 50’s and I am not “old”. I have watched soaps forever. Several different ones in fact. I have watched AMC since forever. It has been the one steady soap that has been on forever. I watch soaps for entertainment purposes, to get away from the real world. Not to be brought down by people fighting, arguing and thinking they are better than the rest. I do not need to watch someone else’s personal life.

GLORIA mULLEN
GLORIA mULLEN

I cant begin to think I want be able to see my soaps. what a sorry decisionI’M 62 you will put a gap in a lot of peoples lives

Christina
Christina

I will NOT WATCH The Talk as it replaced my much loved soap As The World Turns and I will make sure NOT to watch these new shows either. Too bad we can’t get more people to tune out these low budget, low entertainment shows. TV is going to crap!

GLORIA mULLEN
GLORIA mULLEN

I agree abc is turning into crap!!!!!!

GLORIA mULLEN
GLORIA mULLEN

abc please reconsider saving our soaps or your rating in general will fall the so willyou losse big time with this horrible sorry disgusting stupid decision

Carole
Carole

The only daytime program that I watch on ANY network is All My Children, which I dvr daily. Boo hiss ABC, Disney, and the pathetic Brian Frons. CHEW on your respective derrieres.

Cathy
Cathy

I have Dish Network – over 100 channels but what do I watch during the day – All My Children and One Life to Live. Your brought garbage in (Brian Frons) and he is putting garbage out. To Brian Frons: when the cast of AMC took a pay cut – did you? I bet not. ABC/Disney, you had better look at the moron you have running the show. You are losing millions of viewers. I will never watch another ABC program – EVER. I am more than happy to give my viewership to NBC or CBS. At least they don’t have idiots at the helm.

moneek
moneek

With Cheaper substitutions…more money will be put in Fron’s pocket. ABC and Disney are cancelled ..Sorry Johnny Depp!

Karen Green
Karen Green

their stupid they don’t care about their ratings they already know they stink both programs are flushed down the toilet where these turds with feet walked up from the sewer. They won’t sell the rights to our soaps cause they know both shows will not be accepted and their not I don’t watch either of them and I never will. I have tuned in elsewhere to watch soaps in the daytime. We won’t quit abc we won’t quit that alone makes us the winners and your right your all the biggest losers!

Judi
Judi

I have not watched ABC sincw the cancellation of AMC and OLTL. I do not even watch disney channels or anything that is ABC related. I got to watching CBS and now I leave my TV on that Channel during the day. I read more with the noise in the background of the TV. The soaps were a release from the strains of everyday life. My viewership used to be with ABC but now their programming is not worth watching.

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8 Years To The Day Of All My Children & One Life to Live Being Canceled; Still Considered By Many Worst Move For Daytime

It’s hard to believe that 8 years ago today on April 14th, 2011, the soap world, its fans, and the cast members, learned of the heartbreaking news that ABC, in one swift move, decimated its daytime line-up when they announced the cancellations of long running series, All My Children (which would end at its 41st year), and One Life to Live (which would ends its run in its 43rd year).

At the time, ABC announced it would move to more lifestyle/entertainment series to replace these dramas.  In its place came The Chew and The Revolution, neither show is still on the air today.  Executives at that time pointed to research saying that times are changing and that their decision was “guided by extensive research into what today’s daytime viewers want,” and blame, in part, “the changing viewing patterns of the audience” for the axing of AMC and OLTL

Then ABC Daytime President, Brian Frons had joked to Deadline about the big announcement that he: “Pre-entered the witness protection program prior to today’s events.”  He added that “The demise of the two venerable soaps was actually a year in the making.  A year ago, we started to look at our projections where the ratings for the soaps would go.  When those projections came in pretty discouraging, the network began to aggressively develop replacement shows, 15 of them.  Four of the 15 were picked up to pilot: The Chew and The Revolution and two others, a talk show and a dating show. Originally, the idea was to cancel only one daytime drama.  The way the ratings developed and the pilots turned out, the ratings developed negatively and pilots developed positively, so we decided to make a bigger shift.”  Of note is that when it went off the air, One Life to Live was in third place among its competitors in the ratings.

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The press release that came with the cancellations stated: “To honor the core, passionate audience and their rich history both shows will conclude in a manner that respects their legacies and the longstanding hopes of many of their viewers.”

Following the cancellations daytime reeled. The mainstream was sure it meant the endings of the soaps, period.  However, four shows illustrated that is not true at all.  For Days of our Lives, General Hospital, The Bold and the Beautiful and The Young and the Restless all remain, and still whether they are up or down in their numbers/ratings, they remain relevant and important to the enduring daytime viewing audience.

Sadly, as with any shows, the end of ABC’s AMC and OLTL meant loss of jobs for so many working in front of the camera and behind the scenes. One Life was the last soap opera in production in New York at the time.  AMC was already being shot in LA to cut costs to save it.

Still in 2019, if you venture on to social media, especially Twitter, you see fans constantly missing its stars and the towns of Llanview and Pine Valley, wanting this wrong rectified.  Although Prospect Park tried to revive the show with their online versions, eventually after legal battles that went on for a few years, ABC now retains the right to these properties,

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The good news is that many favorites from AMC and OLTL have found success and been hired on other soap operas, bringing their followings with them, whether it be on-screen, or in the writing, producing, directing or crew departments.

So, do you think the loss of AMC and OLTL consolidated daytime and made the remaining shows stronger so they would not be touched or canceled?  Do you think ABC should try to mount a resurrected AMC and OLTL or an amalgamation of the two?  Do you remember where you were when you learned the two soaps were cancelled? Was this the worst misstep of all-time for daytime? Share your thoughts and theories via the comment section below.

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The premise of Wild Cards is based on the sci-fi anthology series edited by George R. R, Martin, best known for writing the “Song of Ice and Fire” novels, on which HBO’s Game of Thrones is based.  Riegel’s husband, Andrew Miller is the showrunner attached to the upcoming series.

On Martin’s website he teases the set-up of the “leaked” video clip:  “This was not supposed to go public.. Everybody (Well, everybody that has been paying attention knows that we are developing two Wild Cards as a series for Hulu  Andrew Miller has taken the reins as showrunner, a writing staff has been hired, and they have been hard at work for months.  What was NOT supposed to be known is how far they’ve come.  Not only have some scripts been finished, but the first show has gone into production and has been shooting.  That was supposed to be a deep dark secret, however.   We wanted to surprise the world. It’s hard to keep secrets in Hollyweird, however.  And now it appears that some of the rough footage has been leaked by person or persons unknown”

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Meanwhile, Riegel sent out a series of tweets: “Hooo boy…cat’s out of the bag! Fans, please don’t judge our show based on these leaked videos!! The effects are going to knock your socks off. And my costars, and , are doing the best work of their lives!”  That was followed by, T”hank you for the chance to work with you on your first foray into soaps! I am humbled and honored. We won’t let you down.” And then, “I’m probably not allowed to share this with all the NDAs I signed, but damnit I’m just so proud of the team!  think we are breaking new ground for soaps. So proud to work with you!”

Now below, check out the Wild Cards “leaked footage” and let us know if you think of the …. um … drama! Comment below.  And one more thing … Happy April Fool’s!

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On Monday’s episode of ABC’s Strahan & Sara, the show welcomed several stars of the beloved All My Children for a reunion, of sorts. Joining hosts Michael Strahan and Sara Haines were Susan Lucci (Erica), Walt Willey (Jack), Cady McClain (Dixie), Jacob Young (JR) and Jill Larson (Opal).

While it was wonderful to see the stars from Pine Valley again, it was also a painful reminder that this network, ABC, canceled the show, and had put in its place – The Chew, and now Strahan & Sara – since canning the series.   In fact, as you will see on the clips below, many of the crew who work on this talk show were once the crew for All My Children.

During the segment, Susan Lucci was tested to see if she remembered all of Erica Kane’s wedded names.  Later, Walt Willey and Susan re-created the final scene of the ABC version of All My Children between Erica and Jack, where Jack walks out on her.  However, this time, they have Jack changing his mind and coming back to Erica and sealing their relationship with a kiss – a moment of closure that never happened (since the show moved to online via Prospect Park).

In addition, Cady McClain and Jacob Young re-created the infamous Dixie “dying from eating poison pancakes” scene, as JR watches his mother die, only this time she lives.

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It’s always great to see these veteran performers, but Strahan & Sara is trying to capture the soap viewers to put eyeballs on their show by bringing in talent from the show that sadly and wrongly went off the air.

Watch the clips below from the All My Children reunion below.  Then, let us know what you thought of it via the comment section below.

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