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Viola Davis Talks Her Emmy Acceptance Speech With Ellen DeGeneres & Notes To NY Times She Was Aware Of Nancy Lee Grahn's Thoughts On It!

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Last night was the second season kick-off of the highly-acclaimed series How to Get Away with Murder on ABC.  And if you caught the opener it was a doozy, and quite the  jaw-dropper!

Series star Viola Davis, who became the first African-American actress to win the Lead Actress in a Drama Series last Sunday at the 67th Annual Primetime Emmys this week visited Ellen.   

During her visit, Viola discussed her acceptance speech which has continued to be much bantered about, because of it’s content.  She noted, when she started to talk about white women and crossing over the line, her husband mentioned to her after her win: “‘V, I didn’t know where you were going with that! I really didn’t! When you were saying those white women with their arms stretched out over the line, I was like What is she doing?’  But he said, ‘When you said Harriet Tubman said it, I was like, ‘Oh my God, thank God.’”  Ellen DeGeneres chimed in and said she thought Davis was drunk when she started the speech! Viola laughed and admitted to drinking prosecco before the show as she was getting ready for the red carpet at home.

Viola’s speech was also brought up by an interview with her in the New York Times where they  about her reasons for her choice of words in the speech on, and the issue some of taken for lack of inclusion for all women in it.  Davis said: “If there has been any backlash, it’s that all people want to feel included in a speech. I know there has been some backlash with an actress who didn’t feel she was included.”  The reporter went in on it and said, “You mean the soap opera actress (Nancy Lee Grahn, GH), who argued on Twitter that Ms. Davis’s speech was misleading because she was part of an elite group of actresses who had never been held back by discrimination?”  To which Viola replied:  “Yes. I don’t know that I want to say more about that”

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So, what do you think about the comments made by Viola’s husband and Ellen regarding their initial thoughts on  Viola’s Emmy speech?  And the HTGAWM star’s acknowledgment that she knows of General Hospital’s Nancy Lee Grahn’s tweets and thoughts on it?

Watch Viola on Ellen discussing her speech after the jump.  Then weigh-in!

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clh
clh

Personally I don’t think the Emmy’s was the forum for her speech. I love her and the show but I tune in to the Emmy’s to enjoy seeing the people in the shows I enjoy win an award for their efforts, not political commentary.

Was she right in what she said? Maybe, I don’t know I don’t work in that environment, but I’m not interested in listening to political statements, from anyone, when I tune into an entertainment show to be entertained. I myself watch all the shows that were in that category and I think Taraji should have won.

As far as Nancy, she has the same right as Viola to express her opinion, right or wrong, but again I would want her to do it on the Emmy’s. How about you thank the people that watch your show, making the award possible, and move on.

clh
clh

I (wouldn’t) want her to do it on the Emmy’s

Abruzzfan
Abruzzfan

Well said dh!

tsyent
tsyent

I agree

k/kay
k/kay

They have been doing it for years that is why viewership is down for the award shows. Now I am going to catch hell on this but here goes it is hard for me to get all worked up for anybody no matter what color you are in Hollywood they live in a fantasy world. so when they come out on stage in their very expensive gowns and tell the average doggie about your trials and tribulations you are going “Huh”? As for NLG she insults everyone all the time I am shocked that one of her buddies did not call her and tell her get off the computer now.

Anacarrie
Anacarrie

Well if I can humbly state my opinion; you are right. Everyone has the right to express their opinion; however I can’t help but notice that Nancy had a problem with Viola’s speech but she would have had NO PROBLEM with it if she talked about the struggles of all women. If it is not a platform for a black woman to express her feelings on such a historical momentous occasion, then it is not a platform for what Nancy said either.

The issue is that Nancy Lee Grahn failed to acknowledge that this is truly a big accomplishment, not just for Viola Davis, but for African American actresses. They have never won in this category for 67 years! It has nothing to do with the struggle for ALL WOMEN, because women, in particular white actresses, have been winning this award for decades. Prior to the show, it was all over the news, internet and other entertainment media that this was the first time in history that 2 black women were even being recognized to be nominated! It was also mentioned that if Viola or Taraji won it would be a first. So even if Taraji won (who I LOVE BY THE WAY AND HAVE LOVED SINCE LONG BEFORE EMPIRE) she too would have acknowledged this win as a victory for all black actresses as it is long overdue. Everyone has a right to express how they feel but I do believe in discernment as well. Nancy failed to exercise discernment in her comments. Our world is still progressive and prejudice, lack of opportunies and many forms of discrimination exist for all men and women of color so when we have overcome even a small bit of the large pool that still exists, we should applaud it instead of being critical. And for her to presume that Viola has never been discriminated against AND TO PUBLICLY VOICE IT….well that was a disaster waiting to happen.

Virginia
Virginia

I could not have said it better.. The media was making a big deal about two African American being up for the award. The speech was good, that was her opinion, nobody knows her struggle on the ladder of success. Good win…..

SZima
SZima

Excellent response Anacarrie!

Even though I groaned a little when Viola was talking, she certainly had a right to say what she wanted, and it was an important moment for her.

Nancy needs to learn to keep her tweeter shut and quit the drunk tweeting.

Beth
Beth

Viola is being classy and keeping the focus on her achievement.

The media blew this up so HUGE and now she and NLG are permanently associated together which is the last thing NLG intended, IMHO.

NLG just said what she always says: speak up for women. Both want the same thing and love the same art form. Lesson learned. Let’s move on.

Harry
Harry

Beth, I respect and appreciate your opinion but would ask you to read NLG’s Tweets. They were mean spirited, and appeared to be written by a green eyed monster. They were horrid.

Beth
Beth

Bro, I was there as it happened. I follow NLG. I thought they were the kind of catty comments you make to your BFF at home while watching and imbibing adult beverages, certainly not something you tweet to 127K followers.
BUT
I do not believe NLG understood the impact or how they would be received and I certainly don’t think she is a racist. Just my opinion. I think NLG has suffered enough. If Viola isn’t mad about it, that is the end of it for me. Thanks for being respectful.

Jimh(leave it to beaver)
Jimh(leave it to beaver)

ILL pass on commenting, many overly sensitive people might misconstrue what im saying and take offense…lol

Ces
Ces

Ha, I agree!
I have to throw in that I think it’s stupid that NLG went upside down & backward to apologize for something she meant to say. Own up to it; don’t apologize 😉

Harry
Harry

Jim even during the rare times we might disagree, you are never ever offensive.
Of course I cannot smell you from here.
But seriously, don’t you think that ABC should impose some kind of Twitter guide lines for its actors and writers? When teachers earn their credentials they are often warned to either stay off Twitter and Facebook period or to be very careful about what they post or Tweet because it could come back to bit them. Even before this I found myself disliking the character of Alexis because I had read some really aggressive and annoying Tweets coming from NLG. Yes, like it or not it subconsciously does cross over. I never cared for Morgan but reading Bryan Craig’s aggressive and ignorant Tweets made me dislike the character even more. GH is struggling and the actors who post offensive Tweets need to stop before they push the send button or wait until the light of sobriety arises with the dawn’s early light.
Maybe we don’t need are every unfiltered thought and feelings exposed for public consumption. Maybe we need to keep some of our thoughts to ourselves.I think some people are addicted to social media and they are shooting themselves in the foot while hearing Charlie Sheen’s voice ricochet in their heads,”I’m winning.” Then they wake up.

Harry
Harry

I mean, ‘our’ not ‘are’ and forgive the other mistakes and typos please. I am no good typing from my phone.
Two days ago, I realized that there are two people I am grateful not to be: 1. The Volkswagon CEO and 2. Nancy Lee Grahn.

su0000
su0000

well,
she messed up bringing Harriet Tubman and her words into an acceptance speech..
She should have used her words thanks and honor and not brought heavy into it..
even if she didn’t know it it put discrimination in her acceptance.
Anyways, who cares.. It’s dumb stuff..
now days- bad/nasty twitter’s gives a public figure more air time more acknowledgment and a lot more attention.
It works great for Trump lol

Margie
Margie

Oh, I was just waiting to see what suoooo would say. You never disappoint.
NLG was the discriminator here.

Harry
Harry

I agree, Margie. Miss su000 always manages to out do herself. Yes, we as a society need to stop being so irony challenged and thin skinned but we also need to to be able to discriminate between the aforementioned and when someone has really crossed the line.
I believe NLG crossed the line with her Tweets again and again……and again. Quite frankly, it came off as an attack.
How dare she say that Viola Davis has never known discrimination when she doesn’t know the woman nor her history? She also Tweeted that Viola needed a script writer for her speech and that Viola is very lucky to earn the roles she had won. So, I guess being a highly skilled Julliard trained actress has nothing to do with it. NLG went on to Tweet that she would kill for her role. Oh yes–I guess Nancy wanted to play a Black maid in The Help.
Yes, all women of a certain age have to fight for their roles but women of a certain age and of color have to fight even harder and are governed by racial stereotypical borders. NLG cannot even begin to know the struggles Viola Davis has endured and should not presume to know. As the writer from Ebony magazine said, “The white privileged need to stop auto correcting the black experience.” Indeed.
I know she has apologized but she seems to have apologized because she finally got caught and the end result was a shit storm. This is not the first time NL has misbehaved on social media but I think it might be the last.

su0000
su0000

Harry, she can fight for rights all she desires. She had many interviews where she could voice have spoken up.
It was not the right time.
Be gracious and say your thank yous and leave the controversy for another time and place..

Gmbenet
Gmbenet

Maybe if instead of mentioning Harriet Tubman, Viola had mentioned Sojourner Truth, then maybe Nancy Lee Graham would have felt included!

Sojourner Truth, was an African-American woman who was born in slavery in the state of New York, and gained her freedom in 1927. On May 29, 1851, Sojourner spoke at a Women’s Convention in Akron, Ohio. Her speech is commonly known as, “Ain’t I A Woman?” The speech addressed the rights of women in general and not the rights of African-American women. However, when she spoke, Sojourner Truth could not help but speak from her experiences as an African-American. However, as I said, she was addressing the rights of women in general.

My point is you cannot separate a person’s perspective from their experiences. Viola’s speech reflected her perspective based on her experiences in this nation as a woman, an African-American, well as an actress in the Entertainment Industry. To expect a person to disregard their perspective based on their life experiences is silly!

Viola’s speech was not a political one. She was sharing her perspective based on her life experiences.

Let’s not be hypocritical here. If it is not a big deal that an African-American actress won the Emmy for Lead Actress in a Drama Series, why is it constantly mentioned when ever Viola Davis is mentioned as the Emmy winner in that category. Viola will forever be labeled as the “first African-American Actress to win an Emmy for Lead Actress in a Drama Series” whether she wants to be or not! That alone is reason enough to give a speech that reflects her perspective based on her life experiences.

It is wrong to expect a person to not speak about their life experiences just because their experiences, heritage and culture makes you uncomfortable. And if the truth be known, that is really what this so called “controversy” is about. Some people are uncomfortable when African-Americans speak about unfortunate things that have happend to their race in this country. Well it happened just as the American Revolution did to. It is all a part of AMERICAN history!

Viola Davis is not the first actor to use the platform of an award show to share what is on her heart. That is also a practice at the Oscars, given in speeches by non-African-Americans.

sonniorsolita
sonniorsolita

Brilliantly put. It is NOT political or controversial for an actor to speak about the challenges of their career at a ceremony honoring them for their contribution to the field of acting. All these people telling Viola Davis what she should have or should not have said make me shake my head. It was her honor to win, and her right to respond in a personal manner that she saw fit. Her speech was moving and raised such interest because it was personal.

Patrick
Patrick

trials and tribulations of the acting craft…

personal trials… are fitting

interviews and auditioning

come hither… damn yourself… belittle… spank… rise… coax… not right

the field is amass… so many energies to contest

yet… a mine field? a smoking gun… an hour glass let… black or white

shades of grey

all in the writing

if Viola Davis word wasn’t captured…
if Nancy Leigh Grahn emoted embroiled…

I can’t get between that

but muster

two humans bespoke

two rights followed

two lines
two paths

intertwined

speak

Patrick
Patrick

I don’t know

I love Viola Davis’ MORE

NLG comes in second

the end

cautioning?

absolutely not

my road is not

yours traverses

mix melds turns and does reach

Gmbenet
Gmbenet

ST gained her freedom in 1827 not 1927 (by then Abraham Lincoln had signed the Emancipation Proclamation!) Please excuse the typo.

Adam
Adam

Viola gave an amazing speech, and as a minority in this country where its still hard to be accepted whether your black, Hispanic are another nationality besides being white, I am agree with all she had to say, it was classy and down right the truth.

We all have to fight but the minorities have to fight harder and we should not have too we should be seen as equal.

Harry
Harry

Absolutely, Adam. And her decision not to comment on NLG’s embarrassing Tweets proves that Viola Davis is a class act.

Elizabeth
Elizabeth

Nancy repeatedly crossed the line with her tweets, which could also be considered “rants.” She publicly targeted politicians and religious groups. Her fans may consider her clever and witty, but many consider her tweets to be rude or offensive. Even her apology for the racist remarks were inappropriate. Well now she has finally gone too far and is deemed a racist. Words hurt, don’t they Nancy?

What is going on over at ABC? Do they have a publicist? You would never see Laura Wright in a verbal mess like this, but Bryan Craig, Nancy Lee, and now Ryan Paevey need help. Actually, we could add Maurice to the list with his comments at the GHFCW. Perhaps Jane Elliot is the smartest of them all…she doesn’t have a Twitter account.

Cathy
Cathy

NLG overstepped like she always does. She needs to be muzzled. ABC is a disgrace for letting her get away with it. It was Viola’s acceptance speech therefore she can say what she wants whether anyone agrees or not. This isn’t the first time NLG opened her mouth. NLG dudn tg gave to go on twitter and make h er opinion kniwn.

Cathy
Cathy

NLG didn’t have to go on twitter and make her opinion known. She didn’t just comment either. She went on and on.

Margie
Margie

Right, Cathy. I counted 30 offensive tweets before she started to get that she’d angered a LOT of people.

Jane
Jane

Soap actors aren’t taken seriously enough but this show certainly doesn’t belong on Prime Time Television with those questionable scenes. HBO or Showtime maybe.

Tristan
Tristan

I am really surprised by the anger so many viewers have expressed about Ms. Davis’s mention of Harriet Tubman. Why are so many white viewers so offended by this? I am an African American myself, old enough to remember a world where our civil rights were not a given and had to be fought for. I remember as a child in the 1960s that we “Negros” considered successes on the platform of the arts an expression of our integration into and acceptance by white society: Sidney Poitier’s Oscar, Motown acts on Ed Sullivan, Dianne Carroll starring in “Julia.” We cheered all “firsts” because it was a signal to Negros (as we called ourselves) that progress had been made. White people may not think of these things as progress, because for whites they are the norm! For the whole of the history of the Television Academy the Best Actress in a Drama Emmy was given to a white woman. So, for whites, eh, no biggie. For the first time in 67 years an African American woman won. In her speech Ms. Davis was celebrating yet another milestone that reminds African Americans that we too are part of the polity. If she had used the speech to rant racist cant and damn white people for making us wait, I would understand your anger with her speech. With all the racism today, the shootings (of folk who wouldn’t have been shot if they had listened to the cops) and the hostility they have created from black and whites, what is wrong with an African American celebrating our inclusion in the realm of acting recognition? She was celebrating inclusion, not spouting race hate. For many white people Ms. Davis’s award meant nothing, yet they are angry that it meant something HUGE to Ms. Davis and to many African Americans. It was meaningless to whites, but big to blacks. Why is it so offensive that she marked what to us was a big deal: further proof that racial barriers have fallen? Isn’t this something that all good Americans should celebrate? Something good happening in the realm of race? And if you parse Harriet Tubman’s comments, they are about whites helping blacks make progress!!!! That was the point!!!!! It was racially inclusive and a celebration of one woman’s inclusion, which she took to be symbolic of a people. It seems that these younger generations have little grasp of history. In the lives of many of us still alive: we couldn’t go into certain stores, or ride buses where we chose, or be dramatic leads on TV shows. Ms. Davis was acknowledging progress in our great country, which was undercut by so many people angry that she alluded to the progress. As Americans, any sign of racial progress — no matter how meaningless to those historically unsophisticated — should be cause for celebration. Had NLG just waited one day to make her points no one would have cared. She unwisely chose to piss on a moment that… Read more »

sonniorsolita
sonniorsolita

Excellent sentiment. Thank you for your well-written thoughts. Much needed perspective.

Patrick
Patrick

I can only imagine

that, her Harriet Tubman quote:

as she spoke… about the white woman(s) reaching out
and I just can’t get their

when roles are made available.. on an equal measure… and it’s a just free for all

and it’s no holds barred

then i’ll race
i’ll equip myself ready

i’ll stampede my worth

I’ll reach you

Rose
Rose

Really appreciated your incites in your comment. As for Nancy who I’ve liked as an actress, I’ll have a hard time not thinking about her badly timed tweets when I see her play Alexis.

Trophy Lady
Trophy Lady

Viola’s speech was PERFECT!!! She commented on her experience, and the experience of many black actresses in this country.

People who find a problem with her speech really make me laugh. These people also make me question their own morals and values. Viola commented on her experience and how it’s affected her in the industry. These same people who find fault in Viola’s speech by saying it “wasn’t the place” to bring up race issues — well, please tell me, where EXACTLY is the place to bring up racism issues about actors TO ACTORS, DIRECTORS, and PRODUCERS??? Where was she supposed to talk about this? Or should she have just acted like racism in the industry doesn’t exist? Should she have just shut up and said nothing at all? Just be happy she won and be about her merry way?

You know, these same people who find fault with Viola’s focus on “racism” would have literally PRAISED her in the SAME speech if she’d spoken about:

1) Gay Marriage/LBGT issues

2) The war in Iraq or anything about veterans

3) ALL women deserving equal pay OR ALL actresses over 40

Somehow it’s perfectly okay to talk about any of those things. Somehow, when it comes to those issues, EVERYONE should always speak up!!! Your voices need to be heard because you need to stick up for others when it comes to those issues. Well, who’s sticking up for people like Viola? If Viola didn’t stand up for the cause and plight of Black actresses getting the shaft, then who would have???

So that’s exactly what she did — because she could! She spoke about what PERSONALLY affected her because it was HER TIME to shine. She shouldn’t have to represent others if she doesn’t want to. And she shouldn’t have to say or NOT SAY something to ensure that others don’t feel “uncomfortable” about an issue that should be addressed.

Just complete LUNACY — Nancy Lee Grahn, and all the others who believe that ANYTHING Viola said was wrong! Gimme a break, and wake up!

Dylan
Dylan

I absolutely love your posts!!!!!! You are spot on! If she had spoken about gay marriage, she would have gotten a teary eyed standing ovation….and possibly a Nobel Prize. It was a personal moment for her to say what her life and career had meant to her up until that point!

Trophy Lady
Trophy Lady

Thank you, Dylan!

And, yes, if Viola had spoken about gay marriage EVERYONE in attendance would’ve stood up and bowed at her feet! But because she spoke about racism, somehow, that topic was deemed inappropriate! Somehow, there is “a proper time and a proper place” to speak about racism but that’s NEVER the case when it concerns gay rights. Or, as NLG wants you to believe — ALL WOMEN’S RIGHTS! Somehow, speaking about ALL women is okay — just not black women. Really? I amazes me that people believe and actually defend NLG’s crap, but don’t see that this is about NLG’s own agenda. She didn’t want Viola to speak about what NLG deemed “inappropriate,” but if she’d focused on what NLG wanted, then all would be well. What a joke!

Rebecca Zertuche
Rebecca Zertuche

I think that it’s time to let it go. Nancy Lee Grahn has apologized repeatedly, if you’ve never said anything that unintentionally hurt someone then you’re ahead of the game.

Beth
Beth

No one should ever stomp on another person’s moment. Period. It’s so completely ungracious and takes away from what they accomplished,
I do not believe NLG set out to do that. She shot off some thoughtless tweet, and this has happened before, BTW, and kaBOOM people went cray cray.
She apologized and has suffered complete humiliation and personal attacks and ridicule in retaliation.
Enough! Give the moment back to Viola Davis and stop associating them together,
As to the suggestion that ABC begin coaching their cast members on social media etiquette. Amen to that. The View, OY! Stop offending the audience you are courting.

Patrick
Patrick

“.. Give the moment back to Viola Davis and stop associating them together,”

yeah

two totally separate entities

two viable women
two humane interests

Dylan
Dylan

You’re right!! Why is it always GH staff who drink too much and then sound off on social media? That is usually the domain of delusional, self entitled Hollywood people like the Kardashians and Taylor Swift. ABC must not care because controversy brings publicity. And any publicity is good…right?

Elizabeth
Elizabeth

I think there are three reasons why people can’t let this go.

1. The timing of the tweet. That moment was clearly Viola Davis’. Let her have it. Don’t be an attention whore. It’s like people who get engaged at someone else’s wedding reception.

2. The tweet was not an isolated one, but one in a pattern of thoughtless, offensive tweets.

3. It appears that once again ABC has done nothing to reprimand one of its actors.

downtownla
downtownla

I’m glad Viola said something meaningful. Instead of rattling off a bunch of names (agents, publicists, etc.) that would go in one ear and right out the other with me, she gave me a glimpse of who she was as a person and what it took for her to get there.

Priscilla
Priscilla

I don’t think Viola Davis speech was out of turn at the “Emmys,” in fact in was due to Her Historic Win of the Emmy, for “Outstanding Lead Actresses in a Drama Series, “The FIRST Black Woman or Woman of Color to do so.” that lead to Her Speech. I think it was a classy & well thought out speech, that was based on the fact of Lack of Roles, especially Lead Roles on Tv (also Movies & other Media) for Women of Color. It wasn’t like she made a out-of-left-field, nothing at all to do with the Emmys Political Statement. As for Nancy Lee Grahn, Yes! she does has the right to freedom of speech, as do We all, but as with Us all that freedom does come with consequences if You say something others feel is wrong, stupid or controversial. I think what Ms. Grahn said was very self-centered, I think she was selfishly trying to put the spotlight on herself & her lack of work, like “Look at Me, poor pitiful Me & my lack of roles, etc…” Where as Ms. Davis’ speech was for & inclusive of ALL Women of Color & their struggle to get work as Actresses due to the actual & factual LACK of Roles for Women of Color. For NLG, to say that Viola, never experienced discrimination & was part of an elite group of actresses that isn’t held back by discrimination, was totally uncalled for & not based in fact. NLG, does NOT know what struggles Viola has or hasn’t experienced in her Acting & personal Life and it is NOT Ms. Grahn place to question or speak of Ms. Davis struggles or lack of. All Nancy Lee Grahn ended up doing by her Twitter comments, is come across as a JEALOUS BITTER BITCH!!

Patrick
Patrick

i’m leaving this be : but not duly noted

“… For NLG, to say that Viola, never experienced discrimination & was part of an elite group ”

wow… earned your stripes

learned from you past

risen from the lesson learned

geezus… cliches abound

courage

Patrick
Patrick

*but not

should marquee : duly noted

Belle
Belle

I want to scream everytime someone says let it go about Ms. Grahn’s twitter rant. Even though she apologized and deleted her flurry of hateful tweets, she went on and on into the early morning even after people let her know how vicious her comments were. She is not a young person and I would think she would have some decorum. Ms. Davis’ speech was for every person of color who finds it hard to find parts in Primetime tv. We will move on to the next thing, but I hope next time, Ms. Grahn will think before she tweets.

Trophy Lady
Trophy Lady

And another thing that bothers me about Nancy Lee Grahn’s comments — she acts like there are Black women ALL OVER GH!!!

Like there are LITERALLY more black women in lead roles on GH than there are white women.

Like NLG had to “fight” for the role of Alexis Davis because they were only auditioning black actresses at the time.

Like NLG had auditioned for MILLIONS of roles, but they ALL went to black actresses instead!

What in the world is this chick talking about??? Seriously, Viola has NEVER been discriminated against, but poor, sad, woe-is-me NLG has??? Gimme a break with her pure and utter FOOLISHNESS!!! I truly DESPISE people who are idiots — and NLG is, without question, an idiot. And she shouldn’t have a problem with that being said about her, right? I mean, free speech and all, right?

Patrick
Patrick

I readily reply

original post… ie: NLG : 203 posts

this thread : 32 and count

you know… Viola Davis is aware of NLG emote

Women.. will traverse and meet eye to eye and battle…

I laud that…

Men fight to the dogged dearth…

just saying…

eye to eye mix

relating

Dylan
Dylan

Lol. You’re funny!! And blunt! Find my post below, and see if you like it.

Trophy Lady
Trophy Lady

Thanks, Dylan! Yeah, I just don’t see any reason to beat around the bush. We all know what this issue is about — whether people want to admit it or not.

I say all of the time, when it comes to gay issues vs. race issues — people are ALL for gay rights/gay issues being discussed and dealt with. But somehow, when it comes to race — that issue is just “too touchy,” “inappropriate,” or “people are just so sensitive.”

No one tells gay people that they are “too sensitive” about LGBT issues! So, why is it that black people are constantly told that they’re being too sensitive? It’s like if you’re against gay rights, then CLEARLY you’re stuck in the dark ages. BUT when it comes to race issues, well, everyone should understand that some people are “really uncomfortable” talking about such things. And, furthermore, you can’t expect people to change overnight when it comes to race. You have to give people time to grow (or die!) where racism is concerned — but you shouldn’t push them because everyone comes from different places. JUST PURE BOLOGNA!!!

rebecca1
rebecca1

@Trophy Lady. You’re doing the same thing you accuse Nancy of. You ASSUME because she is white she’s never faced discrimination, which comes in all forms including religious, age, beauty, weight, health. No one here knows how many roles Nancy was rejected for…was she not young enough, thin enough, blonde enough…black enough?

She spoke out of turn by assuming…but she’s for ALL women in an industry that she apparently feels are too harshly judged. That includes middle aged women of all ethnic backgrounds who have historically been cast aside.

Trophy Lady
Trophy Lady

Rebecca, I’m really not doing the same thing as NLG. NLG said that Viola had never been discriminated against — even though Viola has said on MANY occasions that she has been. What I said was that NLG wants us to feel sorry for her because she says she has been discriminated against because she is a woman.

My point is that, sure, NLG has probably been discriminated against because she is a woman over 40. BUT Viola has been discriminated against because she is a woman over 40 AND A BLACK WOMAN OVER 40! Not only was she discriminated against for being over 40, Viola has stated that even when she was a young woman, she was discriminated against because she was black.

I think the key element here is that NLG wanted Viola to focus on ALL women in the industry — typical feminism rhetoric. The problem with “typical feminism” rhetoric, is that it COMPLETELY dismisses that RACE place just as much of a role in feminism as well. Therefore, the white woman experience simply isn’t the same as the black woman experience just because they are both women. White feminism and Black feminism are not the same thing — and that is what “typical feminists” like NLG completely FAIL to realize.

Anacarrie
Anacarrie

Nancy’s comments were completely inappropriate. Bottom line, this moment was not a only a big win for Viola Davis, it was a big moment for AFRICAN AMERICAN ACTRESSES. To say it should be about all women who don’t get recognized or acknowledged makes NO SENSE because white actresses have been acknowledged for their craft and have been awarded this honor for SEVERAL DECADES! This moment WAS AND STILL IS HUGE and for her to try to take away from it and attempt to negate this historical moment is very disappointing. One can argue that she is entitled to her feelings but to go on a public platform and share those thoughts?! I have to wonder, in light of her comments of feeling unrecognized, did she do it to get attention? If so, she chose a HECK of a topic. But if she did this simply for the reason that this is how she feels, then I am sad for her. It takes a lot of gall to not only presume but to say that Viola has never been discriminated against; to even comment on any black person’s experience is out of line because she will NEVER know what it is like to be an african american woman in the entertainment industry and most importantly this world.

Jamesj75
Jamesj75

It’s clear that Davis was mum on NLG because she is extremely perturbed with NLG and didn’t want to make matters worse. I will ignore the larger, more important, issue of race relations and dive right into social media.

Social media will lead to the downfall of society. Look at the tremendous backlash to NLG for her tweets. In a sense, I suppose that our interactions here at the Fairman site are a part of social media. Yet I have seen much divisiveness and harmful effects coming from FaceBook, Twitter, and their ilk. I was briefly on FB but left when I realized it wasn’t for me. Exposing such great detail about personal matters to a world wide web audience is dangerous. In a real-world setting, would any of us leave our home doors open for any and all to view and enter? If not, then why do so many do so figuratively in social media? And the reliance on social media in lieu of face-to-face interactions has psychological ramifications.

NLG used the twitersphere platform for her opinions to ill effect. We are all entitled to our opinions, of course. Any opinion is bound to alienate at least one segment of society. One can opine that the sky is blue, and there will always be those who disagree.

Rose
Rose

James…I agree with your the “open door” comment about social media. And I really don’t know why someone wants to share all of the things they put out there. But what has really amazed me about the social media phenomenon is it has uncovered some very negative, disturbing thoughts and trolls in society that we wouldn’t have known existed before. In a perverse way it’s been a wakeup call that not all is not well in a larger population than we might have guessed. Just wish we knew what to do about it.

Jamesj75
Jamesj75

Rose, thanks a million for your thoughtful reply! You bring up a valid and interesting point regarding the negativity that has been exposed through social media. In its extreme, terrorists have spread propaganda and enlisted sympathizers and activists (the worst kind of trolls), even on the US shores.

Dylan
Dylan

I posted a long post about this under the original column. Simply put…it was Ms. Davis’ speech. (Ironic that Nancy Lee Grahn plays Alexis DAVIS.) If Nancy had to post about the speech , it should have said CONGRATULATIONS ON A WELL DESERVED WIN. Nothing more. Mixing tequila and twitter is NEVER A good idea! I would like to coin a new phrase for celebrities who imbibe and then go to Social Media. TWIQUILA.

Trophy Lady
Trophy Lady

I agree! It seems that NLG never learned the old adage, “If you don’t have anything nice to say, then don’t say anything at all.” If she’d done just that, she wouldn’t have to defend herself. But since she wants to be so mouthy — well, there are consequences. Now people know exactly want kind of a “woman” she really is.

sonniorsolita
sonniorsolita

“Twiquila” … love it! Ms. Grahn is not the only celebrity who needs to lay off the Twiquila!

Adam
Adam

Nancy Lee Grahn’s tweets were so uncalled for really? Now she had to go back and apologize, which was good, but still, never been fan of her’s and never will. GH good luck with this actress on your show, well there’s hardly any minorities on GH anyway, so she want have to worry so much!

Belle
Belle

Anacarrie, Tristan, and Trophy Lady were excellent with their comments ; I can’t add anything to what they stated. Bravo ! Tremendous! Superb!

Tristan
Tristan

Thank you so much, Belle!

Trophy Lady
Trophy Lady

Thank you, Belle! 🙂

Rose
Rose

Food for thought…Everyone has their own way of accepting an award. Viola had hers, and I can’t say I blame her…certainly not on racial grounds. It was 75 years ago Hattie McDaniel graciously accepted her Academy award as best supporting actress in Gone With The Wind. She was incidentally the first negro, as she was called then, to receive one, in a segregated venue where her director had to get special permission for her to be admitted and given a table. Since then there has been Sidney Poitier, Denzel, Whoopi, Harry Belafonte, and others that have won awards, and continued to pave the way with more and more challenging roles. But always with other nominees and audiences over-whelmingly white.

And other actresses have been vocal about the roles available, and offered to women.

Nancy has a right to think and feel what she tweets about, but in this case the timing was all wrong. It was Viola’s night…her party.

Carlos
Carlos

NLG ‘s comments , Tweets, should have not her send button, if she had a 5-10 second delay, we would never know her thoughts about race, discrimination, women, equality……it would have been some other actor, actress, who would have taken her place in voicing the same or similar remarks. This usually occurs when there is an award show, and a “milestone” is or may occur. Hollywood, the Television Academy, has for a very’ very long time, failed to recognize gifted talented actors, because they put them in a box with respect to their gender, race, and the few people in the positions of creating roles, scripts, and opportunity for actors to do their craft, is because it’s a club that they create and control, because they can. The only reason why Meryl Streep, and Sandra Bullock can do what they do so magnificently is because they create and control their acting themselves, i.e, roles for movies. Jane Fonda is a genius, and a very talented actress, despite being blacklisted by Hollywood for years, and she found On Golden Pond, developed it herself, and had two of the best actors on the planet, her father and Katherine Hepburn. But it was her production company that produced that movie. Viola Davis knows the game, she is a class act that’s why she didn’t need to respond to the NLG tweets, bu the next award show the Globes…,it will fade from the news cycle, and we will be writing about who was snubbed by not being nominated…

Gmbenet
Gmbenet

I want to address what the article above said that Nancy Lee Graham asserted that Viola Davis was a part of an elite group of actresses that had never been held back by discrimination.

In 2014, Oprah Winfrey had a special on OWN where African-American actresses were invited to come and discuss their issues and experiences trying to get work in Hollywood. They also talked about how those experiences had affected them personally. The participating actresses included Viola and others who Nancy would probably consider elite.

After reading many of the comments on this page and comments on the initial article posted about Nancy Lee Graham’s tweets, I am understanding that the special that aired on OWN was not seen by a lot of non-African-Americans. If they had seen that special and heard the discussion among the participating actresses, they would have understood Viola’s speech. If Nancy Lee Graham had seen the special maybe she would not have gone on a rant the way she did.

I am not saying that Nancy (and other non-African-Americans) would have agreed with everything said on the show but it would have given them a better understanding of the perspective Viola was articulating when she won her Emmy.

I think this so called controversy would have never taken place.

Now I will tell you exactly how I feel about persons who do not like it when African-Americans speak about their experiences in this nation and tell us to “shut up” about it. I am tired of it. As far as I am concerned whoever does not like it can go jump into the hole of the nearest port-a-potty! I for one will continue to speak about the African-American experience whenever and wherever I feel it is relevant to the topic at hand. Anyone who does not like it can… You know!

rebecca1
rebecca1

I still think the reaction to Nancy is ridiculous..However, I don’t think she helped get her point across by stating her opinion that Viola wasn’t discriminated against. Perhaps she was at some point before she got on Times 100 most influential list or before her numerous awards including the Academy Awards, Tony Awards, Emmy….among others.

Still, I’d like to know how many expert witnesses here gave her a breathalyzer test whilst condemning Nancy and calling her a racist.

Darrick
Darrick

Before taking to twitter perhaps Nancy should have asked herself besides Debbi Morgan, how many African-American actresses have had the privilege to work in daytime for 30+ years? It seems Nancy has forgotten her own “elite class” including the likes of Deidre Hall, Susan Lucci, Katherine Kelly Lang, Kristian Alfonso, Melody Scott (I could go on and on and on…) It should take nothing more than a look at her daytime community to understand the need for diversity. If Nancy is such a champion for human rights and women’s rights she should understand and celebrate Viola’s much deserved accomplishment.

Trophy Lady
Trophy Lady

Darrick — isn’t that just plain common sense on NLG’s part? She’s done all this talking about Viola being “elite” and “not being discriminated against,” yet NLG has had a prominent place in daytime for more than 20 years! So, what is she talking about? NLG may not be the “hot, young seductress” any longer, but she is still a LEAD on GH! Where are her Black actress counterparts? They are certainly NO WHERE TO BE FOUND on GH — or on ANY daytime soap! She really doesn’t have a leg to stand on — at all.

And, furthermore, if she is so about ALL WOMEN, then why isn’t she shouting from the rooftops at ABC that there needs to be more diverse women on GH? Why isn’t she making a stink about this at ABC? So, she won’t speak up in her own house on GH, but EXPECTS that Viola speak up on NLG’s behalf when Viola wins her Emmy? Really, chick?! She sooooo needs to be talked to.

rebecca1
rebecca1

Once again, Trophy Lady, you’re assuming that NLG hasn’t asked for more racial equality on GH. Maybe she has, maybe she hasn’t. Don’t know; neither do you. What I do know is she has felt that prior to Ron coming over to GH, she and Jane Elliot had discussed how they, felt, as women over a certain age…that they were invisible.

You know what I’d like to see? I’d like to see characters and families on TV…including soaps… as well as film…Jewish. How many non Jewish actors, including non Jewish black actors…are demanding that? And if this were a primarily black site…how many would be in favor or supporting Jewish actors wanting to be represented. I’m “assuming”…not many.

Trophy Lady
Trophy Lady

Rebecca, why should Viola be “responsible” for speaking up for ALL ethnic groups? Why should she speak up for Jewish actors? She’s had a hard enough time as a black actress, now she’s responsible for all of the other ethnic groups as well?

I’m not saying that she shouldn’t — if that’s what she wanted to do with HER TIME at the Emmys. But, the idea that because she won, she needs to represent any other group other than what she wants to, is simply ridiculous. You’re basically saying the same thing that NLG said — NLG wanted her to speak about ALL women getting the shaft instead of focusing on Black women. By focusing on ALL women, Viola would’ve COMPLETELY ignored the fact that she has been affected by being a woman, and being black. You can’t separate those two things.

And by the way, most people are aware that MANY Jewish people are actually in many powerful positions in entertainment industry — in front of and behind the camera. I don’t think that Jewish people are really feeling “underrepresented” in Hollywood.

Rebecca1
Rebecca1

Trophy Lady…your reply to me was EXACTLY the sentiment I knew it would be. So…here we go… I never said VIOLA DAVIS should have addressed the fact that there is very little portrayal of Jewish life in the media. I simply stated there isn’t. That’s a fact. There’s not. But that’s something I’d like to hear addressed. I said on several other posts I would have also welcomed a speech about the lack of diversity portrayed in the media regarding other people in society…the overweight, the disabled, actors such as Peter Dinklage, the dwarf who won Best Supporting Actor for his excellent work on Game of Thrones, and so on… I don’t want to hear another speech about the lack of black roles in TV And film. Why? Because we have a black president. Because we have EXTANT, BlACK-ISH, EMPIRE, HOW TO GET AWAY WITH MURDER, SCANDAL and a host of other great shows starring black actors…all of the aforementioned I watch and love. Some of the highest paid celebrities in the world are black…Lebron James, Sean Combs, Jay Z, Beyoncé, Kevin Durant, Kobe Bryant, Drake ( though he’s Jewish, too), dr. dre, Pharrell…etc Yes, the above list encompasses sports figures and musicians, as well…and let’s not forget Oprah. I’ve heard people say…when there’s maybe one more of perhaps a handful of movies about The Holocaust…”oh, man, can’t the Jews get over it..it was sixty odd years ago.” Many of those complaining were black. A lot of anti semitism from black people…which is ironic to me since many Jewish people marched and died for civil rights…and I believe was the largest white population to vote for Obama. But I digress… Look up one of the many Jewish philanthropists who created The Rosenwald Schools, 5000. Schools…So that black children could get an education. People like Maya Angelou went to one of the Rosenwakd schools. Funny how many, if not most in the black community don’t think of Jewish people like Mr Rosenwald when speaking of Jewish people but instead… …Reiterate anti Semitic rhetoric like the “Jews run the media” Which is basically what you just insinuated…as I knew you would once I “dared” state that there were no Jewish roles. See? I didn’t say there were no Jewish people IN the media…I said being depicted. When was the last time a soap opera had a Jewish character? Ever see a character wear a Jewish Star! Hanukkah anyone? No? That’s because there aren’t any… I remember a few times when GH made a holiday seasons video. Except it was just one holiday…Christmas. Even though Sean Kanan (AJ) is Jewish…Kristen Alderson (Starr, Kiki) is half Jewish, etc… For your enlightenment, last I looked ( the management might have changed) not one news operation is currently headed by a Jewush executive. And Jewish people are not the majority in Hollywood like in the 20s, 30s and 40s like so many anti Semitic pgeople continue to perpetuate about the ” Jew run media.” Thanks to… Read more »

Trophy Lady
Trophy Lady

Rebecca — a few things: 1. I am glad we are having this discussion because I think far too many people shy away from racial issues. Why not discuss and voice your thoughts?! 2. As my response was what you thought it would be, in the same vain, your response is very much what I thought it would be, as well. So, let’s discuss… You mentioned that you don’t want to hear any more talk about the “lack” of Blacks on TV because there are such shows as Empire, Extant, Black-ish, How to Get Away with Murder, Scandal, etc. You also mentioned some black celebrities like Puffy, Beyonce, LeBron, etc. You also mentioned the fact that the President is black, as well. My question to you is do you now believe that the playing field is equal? Do you think we are in a post-racial society? I ask because even though you named a few shows and few successful black people in the industry, do you think that comes ANYWHERE CLOSE to the number of whites in those same positions? Those few black shows and few black celebrities PALE IN COMPARISON to their white counterparts. People often say, “There’s BET — what are you complaining about?” That’s ONE BLACK CHANNEL compared to how many that focus on the white experience? Furthermore, why should black people be solely relegated to that one channel if they want to see more black people on TV? Shouldn’t ALL those channels and shows available on TV (and movies!) be much more inclusive than what they are? The bottom line is that no matter how much you may want to believe it, the entertainment industry simply isn’t equal. Sure, you see more black people on TV, in movies, or even the President — people you never would’ve seen in the past. But these people are still very much in the minority — which is what Viola was speaking to. The door has been opened, but by no means is EVERYONE allowed to come in. Hollywood is still VERY SELECTIVE about how many Black people they will let through the door — especially in non-stereotypical black roles, like that of Viola’s “Annalise Keating” on HTGAWM. Blacks in sports or music don’t have the same challenges that black actors have. 3. I know you thought you knew what my response would be regarding Jewish people vs. black people, but you have misunderstood. I simply said that I didn’t think that Viola should be responsible for speaking up for all ethnic groups. I honestly don’t have a problem with you wanting to see more Jewish people on TV. That’s fine — and I think more Jewish people should speak up about that if that’s what they want. Viola spoke up for black actress; Jewish actresses should speak up for other Jewish women. As far as blacks and Jewish people — I’m not sure what you’re talking about. I’ve honestly never heard ANY black person saying that Jewish people should… Read more »

rebecca1
rebecca1

Trophy Lady…

I, too, welcome a respectful dialogue. Unfortunately, if one was to expressive what they truly think on these complicated issues, civil could turn hostile on a dime.
While I understand all you’ve expressesd and I understand the emotion and passion you feel…I don’t agree with Viola’S speech. I’ll tell you why. I Don’t agree that doors aren’t open to black actors. I DO AGREE that there is still a disparity between the racial spectrum in terms of how many people we currently have starring on TV and film. The difference is, the message was already received. As long as there is an audience…and people tune in to watch ANY good actor, show, film…and the networks and studios are making money…there will be a demand, and thus more roles.

With the success of the black actor featured shows already mentioned, the success of Oprah which led to Whoopie, Tyra, Steve Hardy, Michael Strahan…the list goes on and on. It’s happening…and hearing Viola’S speech sounds like she’s the exception. She’s not. Whether black people get more into the production, creating end of it and hire more black actors as is done on EMPIFE, or non black creatives keep the hiring trend going…it’s already in progress.

Couple that with Sharpton and a new march of the month…sorry…this is where it gets touchy…

A white acquaintance mentioned Viola’s speech to me the other day. She rolled her eyes and just said, regarding the context…”I’m so over it…”

As for the Jewish people…it’s a culture that is notoriously liberal and speaks up, contributes, marches and donates time and money for the rights of others, even in the face of bigotry against their own religion, culture. I have no sympathy for a group of people who, like the Jewish people, have been oppressed, yet have not been supportive of the Jewish community. I’ve heard inflammatory comments about Jewish people…personally…and have had to hear anti Semitic crap from Farrakhan, Spike Lee, Whitney Houston, Jessie Jackson, Sharpton…

Sorry. I maintain my individual likes and dislikes. I judge people on their own worth. I’m going to say something completely cliche but I mean it…some of my best friends have been and are black. In one day I might run into five strangers..,three might be white and hateful…two might be black and wonderful. Its individuals.

But as a collective group…I am sooo over the speeches, marches, people bending over backward not to offend the black community. My mom used to watch The View. I used to ask her to turn it off because I couldn’t take one more half hour long gripe about who said what to offend a black person. If there was another group offended or insulted..if it got five minutes discussion it was a lot.

Oh…and none of the great shows mentioned, as well as others not mentioned, are relegated to BET.

mike
mike

N LG made a mistake, she sounded jealous to me. I don’t think she meant to sound racist. I’m an African American I’ll give her a pass, people say stupid things sometimes.

Josh
Josh

Twitter and Facebook are pernicious awful platforms. That said, I applaud Nancy, and no, speaking the truth as one sees it is not racist. Like I said in another post about something different, this country now is about groups, which is the total antithesis of our philosophy as different people who choose a common set of values, liberty, individualism and hard work, not ethnicity or nationality. Being an actress in Hollywood and winning an Emmy are luxuries and privileges of an elitist few, many who aren’t any more talented than anyone else. People need to grow up and stop looking for reasons to be offended. If most people in this country alive today were here a century ago, we would have NEVER won the two world wars, and the world may not even be here as we know it today. Hollywood is a bunch of pampered elitists who have zero clue how reality works, so it’s very easy to spout off lazily thought-out ideals that mask our real problems of ignorance, laziness, self entitlement, apathy and lack of a work ethic and can-do attitude that made this county great. Now we’re a bunch of apologizing weak feckless crybabies laughed at by the rest of the world. That’s why I don’t support Hollywood and I only watch scripted programming in daytime serial format. Start preaching, and I’m done. Oh by the way, before anyone responds with some hateful liberal rhetoric, I’m gay, Catholic, white skin from European background, and dark features from my native American background. I don’t want to hear about victims. Everyone has been challenged. Accepting challenges and defeating what stands in your way, no matter what your background, is what makes us, as individuals great, because every single one of us is a minority. Mob/group/demographic mentality is primitive and un-American and un-civilized. Unfortunately, America is on that path that cannot be reversed, and I’m glad I’m over half way to the goal line, because an angry, offended, fractured nation of lazy-minded victims doesn’t appeal to me.

General Hospital

GH’s Steve Burton & Bradford Anderson Give The Lowdown on Their New Series ‘7 Questions’ & Their Creative Partnership

What started out as an unlikely on-screen pairing and friendship several years ago on the daytime drama, General Hospital has flourished, and become something even much greater than that. Knowing they struck gold with their characters being the antithesis of each other – one’s a hit man for God sakes, and the other an awkward computer geek, Steve Burton (Jason) and Bradford Anderson (Spinelli) began to conjure up how they could parlay their on-screen and off-screen friendship into other creative avenues.

As fans of the popular soap stars know, these guys travel around the country performing their comedy act, Stone Cold and the Jackal to packed houses. They have a weekly podcast, now on the Podcast One network, That’s Awesome and have also been concentrating on delivering even more content to their audience via their You Tube page, with their latest collaboration 7 Questions with Steve and Brad; where the two take on some questions and answer them with some clever elements wrapped up inside of each installment.

Not a week can go by without Steve and Bradford releasing something new to whet the appetite and keep engaged their enduring fan base. While everyone is facing together the disruptions in our normal everyday lives due to the coronavirus pandemic, Steve and Bradford are using this time wisely to expand their reach while creating even more fun content within their wheelhouse.  So, who know what could be next, right?

Michael Fairman TV chatted with Steve and Bradford to get the Intel on their success, their new You Tube series via their page, and more.  And of course, we couldn’t let this opportunity go by without putting them in the hot seat and asking our own ‘7 Questions’.  Check out what they had to say below.

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How did the idea originally come about for 7 Questions with Steve and Brad?  What was the inspiration behind it?

BRADFORD: We want to put out as much content as we can and as much entertainment as we can for people, especially during this time.  We’ve done a lot of work on our Facebook page, and we realized that we make so many videos, why the heck aren’t we putting them on our YouTube page?  With that, Steve kind of had this idea. Steve will talk about his inspirations for the visual component of it, and it was kind of a no-brainer.

I just also would like to know whose idea it was to have the MTV-ish voice-over gal for the interstitials of ‘7 Questions’.  That’s one of my favorite parts, by the way!

STEVE:  That’s me! I’m a kid of the 80s.  I love the 80s.  It’s what our brand has been.  We use a lot of colors that are 80s, and that’s our demographic. They relate to it.  With ‘7 questions’, I had no idea what it was going to be, really.  Bradford and I talk multiple times a day, and we are always thinking of ideas. We do our podcast, “That’s Awesome!” and then, we do a bonus podcast now every week that is 15-20 minutes, and that we put it up on YouTube as well.  With the way things are, we want people to laugh and have fun.  Now, usually Bradford does all of the heavy lifting with the technology.  He edits the podcast, he uploads it, he does all of that stuff, and I’m like, “Let me just try it.”  So, I do the sound effects and graphics in these.  I’m laughing while I do it, so I’m hoping people laugh, too.

BRADFORD:  In the beginning, Steve kind of wanted to make it like a morning show, and it my head, I thought he meant like a morning TV show, so I was a little confused by that! (Laughs) What he meant was like a disc-jockey from the 80s on the radio – the kind of show where they use the silly horns when there is a joke, or a lot of ‘whiz-bang’ sound effect, and stuff like that.  It’s fun to see Steve’s creative self come out and play.

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STEVE: The ‘7 questions’ episode out now with Josh Swickard (Chase, GH), is amazing.  Well, it’s amazing because of the sound effects I put in of course, but it’s also amazing because Josh Swickard is on it. (Laughs)

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You guys have been able to get along so well it seems from your podcast, to your YouTube videos, to your regular on-screen relationship at GH, and then, you do comedy clubs appearances around the country together.  Why do you think it works so well between the two of you? 

BRADFORD:  That’s a good question.  I think we have very similar goals.  We understand each other’s instincts a little bit.  So, we can navigate.  Sometimes, I can tell when something is going to frustrate Steve.  I steer that around him, and he certainly does the same thing for me.  He knows what frustrates me, and he’ll take care of that.  The cool thing about us is that neither of us are combative people.  We never bring our outside crap into our relationship.  We’re not that kind of people.  We are very positive people, and I think that really helps.

STEVE:  It’s always dangerous to get into business with friends.  That’s the first thing I can say because in the past that’s happened to me, and it hasn’t worked out.  I think Bradford and I just have a great mutual respect for each other.  I don’t want to say that it’s almost like a marriage, but it kind of is, because we are together so much.  We work together, we talk every day, and we are always collaborating on things.  There are always things that come up.  Most people wouldn’t even know the stuff that comes up with the podcast or with the live shows, and it takes a really special partnership to forge through that and still have fun.  That’s what the key is because I know plenty of people who are in business relationships who aren’t happy.  They’re just doing it for business.  If we ever get to that point, he and I just need to walk away.  It’s just a really great relationship where we are continually pushing each other, and where we are continually growing.  I never have to worry about what he is doing, and he never has to worry about what I am doing.

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BRADFORD:  That’s a really big deal.  I’ve never even thought about that because we’ve never had a ‘come to Jesus’ moment where it’s like, “Hey man, you’ve really got to start pulling your weight here.” (Laughs)

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Ok guys, I have a lighting round of ‘7 Questions’ for you.  Here we go! Question number 1! What one word describes your initial impression of each other when you first met?

BRADFORD:  “Muscle-y”

STEVE:  That’s not a word, dude!

BRADFORD:   It is.  I made it.

Steve, what’s your one-word initial impression of Bradford when you first met him?

STEVE: “Interesting…”  Can it have an ellipsis after it?

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Question number 2: When rehearsing your comedy show, which one of you has the most trouble remembering what comes next?

BRADFORD:  I’m going to say Steve, but there is a caveat.  The way that his set is designed, he does about 20 minutes of just talking.  Mine is song, talk, song.  So, there’s an order for mine… but for Steve, remembering half an hour’s worth of stories is hard.  That’s what I would say.

STEVE:  I would say me, too.  We are both pretty on it with our structure and what comes next pretty naturally, but there’re times when Bradford is like, “Hey, over here.”  What the audience doesn’t see is I go, “Oh yeah!  Hey!”

BRADFORD:  But we’ve been doing this for so long that we’ve both had our senior moments.  Neither of us is immune to a hiccup here and there.

Question 3: You both are super-high energy guys. After your performances, who has more trouble decompressing and coming down to earth after the adrenaline rush of playing in front of a crowd?

BRADFORD:  I can sleep anywhere at any time… so can Steve.

STEVE:  Usually, I can sleep anywhere, but after a show, I’m hyped!  I’m like, “Let’s go!  Where are we going?” Bradford’s like, “Give me a glass of wine, and a nice meal, and I’m going to bed,” and I’m like, “Oh, no, you’re not.  You’re not going anywhere near a bed!  We’re going out.”

BRADFORD:  Part of the problem is that we drink a Five-Hour Energy before the show, and our show is only 3 hours.  There’s that extra 2 hours. (Laughs)

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Question 4:  What do your wives; Kiera and Sheree think of your ‘7 Questions’ and your comedy show? 

BRADFORD:  I was nervous the first time my wife came to our comedy show, because she’s actually a pretty talented comedian.  She knows comedic timing really well.  The first time Kiera ever saw our act was when she helped us do a GH Fan Club Weekend show.  She told me afterwards, “I don’t want to hurt your feelings, but I had kind of low expectations, and you guys are hilarious.”  You know, I was a guy who kind of waited for the phone to ring because that’s what the life of an actor kind of just tends to be, and now what’s been so wonderful for me is becoming a creator, becoming a collaborator, and how it has really just changed my approach to work in general.  So, my wife is proud of me, and thankful to Steve for that.

What does your wife think, Steve?

STEVE:  My wife saw 7 Questions, and she loves that.   She’s seen some comedy bits that I have shown her on my phone, but she hasn’t seen a full comedy show yet.

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Does Sheree like the comedic side of you?

STEVE:  Yeah, I don’t know if most people know that I may have a sense of humor because literally when we go to the shows, people are looking at me like I’m an alien like, “What the hell is going on up there?”

Right! It’s such a departure from what they envision as this image of you from your role on General Hospital to when they see you do something different. 

STEVE:  Right.  I’ve always kind of been kind of high-energy, and I don’t want to say funny, but I at least have a sense of humor and can crack jokes.  That was one of the first things that kind of connected my wife and me.

BRADFORD:  On stage, Steve’s a great storyteller, but what we’ve done over the last couple of years is really try to hone those stories in a specific way, like really make sure that the timing is there, that the setup is there, and all of that.  I think at the beginning, both of us were a little self-conscious about that because it was new to us.  I could sing a song and not be self-conscious about it because that’s what I did for most of my life.  This is new to us, and what I have loved seeing over the last couple of years, is Steve’s growth as a performer.

STEVE:  Thank you, buddy.

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Question 5:  Do your kids understand what you do for a living? What do they think that you do?

STEVE:  My kids aren’t sure.  My daughter who is 16, she gets it.  My son, he hasn’t seen a lot of scenes from GH, but I showed him once he was able to understand some and he was like, “What do you do?”  I said, “I’m the Fonzie of daytime.”  He said, “Who’s Fonzie?”  (Laughs)  My 5-year-old really doesn’t know.  She thinks I go on the road more than I go to work.  She’s like, “Oh, are you doing your thing with Bradford?” She sees me working on my stuff with Bradford, and she’ll be like, “7 questions with Steve and Brad!”  She’ll walk around the house and say that.

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BRADFORD:  My 8-year-old, Juna knows that I’m on TV.  There’s been a couple of times when we have been watching the news over the last couple of weeks, and the California governor will have press conferences, and it will then cut right into General Hospital, and there was one time that it just cut into me.  It’s been a long time since they’ve seen me on the television.  So that was cool.  There are a couple teachers at their school who are fans of the show, so that gives the kids a bit of a chuckle.  Juna will say to my 5-year-old, Finola, “Hey, Finola, come over here.  We’re going to be on dad’s podcast.”  So, anything technical, any video, she calls “a podcast”.  She doesn’t quite get that part of it.  She probably thinks YouTube, and everything is a podcast. (Laughs)

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Question 6: If you guys could go on any late night TV talk show together, which show would it be and why?

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STEVE:  My sensibility would be The Tonight Show starring Jimmy Fallon.

BRADFORD:  I would probably say Jimmy Fallon too, although I love Jimmy Kimmel because he’s on ABC.  Also, our sense of humor is pretty dumb, and Fallon’s sense of humor is pretty dumb.  So, I think our senses of humor match up with him better than anyone else, probably.

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Question 7: On soaps, do you think more comedy should be injected into them?

STEVE:  Let me answer this, because when Bradford came on as Spinelli, he turned it into the comedy relief in a lot of ways.  We didn’t have a lot of comedy on the show.  Back in the day, you had some people like Steven Kay, who played Reginald, and you had people who had some comedic moments, but Bradford really kind of came in and was that.  People knew that once Spinelli was on the screen, something funny could happen.  Just with his encounter with somebody, or how he was going to try to approach me, or hug me, or how he was going to try to figure something out and spaz out, and people love that.  I think there needs to be comedy on a daytime drama.  There is so much heaviness all of the time usually, and that’s why I think Bradford (obviously he is a fantastic actor) is able to stay on for so long because he brought something new, something different to the table, and that’s what made him so valuable.

BRADFORD:  Thank you, Steve!  I think the best way for comedy to happen in daytime is through the organic instincts of each individual actor because the times where soaps try to be funny is where it doesn’t work sometimes.  That’s kind of a rule anywhere!  The best comedy is where it is found rather than planned.  So, when you look at someone like, for instance, Steve, when he moved the fuzzy balls the other day, that is the best kind of humor in our show because that is something that his character would do anyway, it showed a little bit of Steve’s personality, which I love, and it was just a little moment of levity.  You look at actors like Roger Howarth (Franco), Michelle Stafford (Phyllis, Y&R), or Maura West (Ava, GH), everyone that finds moments in their performance to do something that maybe wasn’t planned; it lets the audience breathe a bit.  That’s where I find that the best comedy is in soaps.

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Bonus question 8! Surprise! Which comedians have influenced you … and which actors have influenced you the most?

STEVE:  Oh, I love Jim Gaffigan.  I love Sebastian Maniscalco.  There are a lot of guys out there.  Acting wise, I’m a huge fan of Tom Cruise, and I’ll tell you why.  From what I know the guy’s work ethic is like nobody else’s.  That’s what always inspires me.  I’m like, here’s a guy who has made 500 million dollars and still gives 120% to this day!  So, there’s a ton of actors that I could pick, but Tom Cruise delivers.  Every performance that guy has done has been amazing.

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BRADFORD:  For me, it didn’t occur to me until later, especially thinking about my comedic influences as a kid.  What I love about GH and the way that they film is that I really can use my whole body.  It’s not just a shoulder-up kind of show.  They have four cameras.  They can catch pretty much anything that you’re doing.  So, I realized that when I think about the way I use my body that I was influenced a lot by Don Knotts.  When you see something on his face (and granted his facial expressions were amazing and huge) you also saw it in his whole body.   Not only do I love Don Knotts, but I also love Donald O’Connor from Singin’ in the Rain.  Now as for an actor, I’ve always talked about Gary Oldman, because I love character actors who, if they weren’t playing a character and they were just themselves, you don’t know what that looks like. You only know them as the characters they play, because every character they play is different.  , If you look at Gary Oldman in The Professional, he is playing a villain there, but he’s this Russian guy with slicked back hair, and then, you see him play Commissioner Gordon in Batman with a flawless Chicago accent, and then, you hear him talk and you’re like, “Oh, he’s from England.  He’s a British actor.  I had no idea.”  That’s what I love.  His physicality, his voice, everything is built from the ground up when he plays a character.  A comic that I love to watch is John Mulaney.  Even though he’s like a preppy little guy that says crazy things, it’s very smart, and I just love his style.

In closing, here we are in the middle of this COVID-19 pandemic, what would you say to your fans, some of who, may feel lost, isolated, worried, etc?

BRADFORD:  I would say watch General Hospital!  At a time like this, routine is very important.  One of the great things about General Hospital is that it is part of peoples’ routines.  It’s not just a plug to watch our show, but it’s something that is comforting in that it is there.  Then, outside of that, you know, we try to provide not just entertainment but connection too.  That’s what we are there for.  We’ve been going live a lot on our Facebook page, on our YouTube page, and our reason for that is that we know people are available, and people can actually talk to us in real time, and as I said, we are trying to create moments of connection.

STEVE:  The best compliment that we get is, “We had so much fun.” or “Oh, you guys made my day.”  I try to answer all the You Tube comments we get, and many of them are similar right now like, “Man, I needed to laugh today.  Thank you for putting this up.”  Obviously, we are all dealing with something crazy right now with this pandemic, but just to give someone even 10 minutes on 7 Questions where they can laugh 3 or 4 times and then go back to whatever they were doing, that’s really what matters to us.

So, what do you think of Steve and Bradford’s new You  Tube show ‘7 Questions with Steve and Brad’?  Have you seen their live comedy club appearances, and if so, what did you think of it?  Do you enjoy seeing GH”s Jason and Spinelli in scenes and hijinks together in Port Charles? Comment below.

 

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GH’s Eden McCoy Chats on Tackling the Role of Young Carly, Josslyn’s love life, and Her Co-Stars

The rivalry between Carly (Laura Wright) and Nelle (Chloe Lanier) has deep-rooted history in the past, not just the present, as viewers learn today on a special episode of General Hospital.  In it, we go back to the 90s, before Carly stepped foot in Port Charles.  This gave Eden McCoy, who usually plays Carly’s on-screen daughter, Josslyn Jacks, the chance to play a young Carly as fans of the ABC daytime drama series also see that the episode sheds come clues to a story that will play out in the present in the weeks and months to come.

McCoy got the opportunity to work with a different set of players than her normal scene partners in Port Charles in the episode – Cynthia Watros (Nina), James Patrick Stuart (Valentin) and young Willa Rose (young Nelle), who comprise the Benson ‘family’ in the flashbacks.

However, while Eden got the chance to travel back to the 90s, Josslyn is also in the dark in the present to that kiss shared by her best friends, Trina (Sydney Mikala) and Cameron (William Lipton).   If that lip-lock came to light to Joss, will that finally get her to admit she may feel more than friendship with Cam?

Michael Fairman TV chatted with Eden to discuss: the opportunity to play young Carly, having Laura Wright as her on-screen mom, and going to battle on-screen with her good friend, Chloe Lanier, plus if she would like to share more screen-time with Josslyn’s dad, Ingo Rademacher (Jax), and of course, the burning question, who has Josslyn’s heart? Is it Cameron? Find out when you read on as to what Eden shared below.

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On today’s April 8th episode of GH, we see you portraying a young Carly.  Tell me when and how you found out that you were going to play Carly, and what the experience was like for you taping those scenes?

EDEN:  It was really one of my favorite experiences at GH, hands down.  I think if I had to choose favorite episodes, this would be this one for sure. My other favorites prior to this have been: the fight scene with Nelle, the dance scenes I did, and the fake drunk scenes with William.  Those were all so great.  I found out that I was going to do this episode and play a young Carly from Laura Wright.  I ran into her on set for blocking.  We weren’t even working together that day, and she’s like, “Oh, I’ve been told that you’re going to play a young me in an episode,” and then she literally walked away – because she had to work.  So, I was like, “What?”  It was kind of this thing hanging in the air, and I rushed to tell my mom, because I was so excited.  I didn’t get the script until maybe a month after Laura told me.  I didn’t want to ask more about it before then, because I kind of wanted to be surprised, too. Then, when I got the script and read it, I was completely blown away.  Then, when I got the news that Cynthia Watros was going to play Carly’s mom and that James Patrick Stuart was going to play Carly’s dad, I mean, I just about had a heart attack! Those are two actors that I’ve watched and admired so much and haven’t worked with a lot.  So, it was this perfectly gift-wrapped opportunity to get to know my fellow castmates and dive into a whole other character.  Everyone was so involved in that episode.  Look at the set design, for one thing.  You can totally tell that it transported us into the 90s.  Everyone did an amazing job with that style of architecture ….everybody had been researching it …everybody pretty much except for me as I lived through the 90s!  The wardrobe was one of my favorite things ever, because the 90s, for me, is my favorite era of fashion.  I feel like my own wardrobe is heavily inspired by the 90s.  I have vintage pieces; my favorite jeans are 90s Levis. I watched Friends and obviously was obsessed with it.  The wardrobe team did an amazing job focusing on all of the 90s trends with the cardigans and the clogs and the jelly shoes and all of that.  I have three outfits in the episode, and we literally named them “Monica”, “Rachel”, and “Phoebe” after the women on Friends.  It was so much fun.

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What’s your take on what happened in the episode; as we learn about Carly’s troubled-past with her adoptive parents, and her past with Nelle?

EDEN:  It starts as a look into a young Carly’s everyday life.  She gets home from a job interview.  She is looking for work, and she gets the job, and Virginia and Carly are talking.  However, the conversation turns into how Carly wants to leave home, and have a very different life than Virginia, but she needs money to do it.  So, she leaves her mom, Virginia, to go find Frank, her dad, who, by the way, is a complete turnoff of a dad.  She thought he was going to have some money, and she could be rich, and get it from him, and move to New York, and see the world because that’s her overall goal.  Carly is a very passionate, goal-driven person as we know, so she goes to see Frank.  It will be a heart-wrenching moment for Carly as a character; and you will see how Nelle factors into this.   All of this in the past shows the internal conflict that Carly has towards Nelle as a person and as a character.  It’s not just that Nelle came into her life and hurt her kids and hurt her family, but it’s because it’s that desperate need for validation that Carly had growing up.  I think, she has had this resentment towards Nelle, because of it.

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How old were you supposed to be in the flashbacks as young Carly?

EDEN:  I was playing like 18-19 years old, and Nelle was around 6.  Willa Rose was such an adorable little actress.  She and James were so cute together, and James was phenomenal.  He just went 110% on this, and it was so, so fun to work against that.  Every take was different.  James was walking at this pace, or he was eating in this scene, and he totally took it to the place that I knew that he would take it.  Same with Cynthia!  Cynthia was amazing.   I’ve watched them together since Cynthia first came on the show as Nina, and I’ve watched James forever, so I totally scored.

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Has Laura Wright seen your portrayal of Carly yet?

EDEN:  I’m super excited to see what she has to say about it.  Frank Valentini (executive producer, GH) and I were discussing it day-of taping. We were kind of dissecting Laura’s mannerisms so that I could kind of plug them in to my performance. We used when Laura as Carly tucks her hair behind her ear, and Frank was like, “Oh, yeah!  Do that!”  I’ve grown up with Laura, and watching her, and acting against her, and people clearly compare us all the time and are like, “That’s insane.  Do you try to do that on purpose?” It’s like, “No, I’ve just been with her since I was 12, almost every day.”

You realize when working and talking with Laura that she truly gets and understands her art and acting in this genre.  She’s really one of the best there’s ever been in soaps.  She can dissect a scene and understand it from different points of view, etc.

EDEN:  Oh my God, I know.  She’s phenomenal to watch, and I am not immune to that whatsoever.  It hits me every time I see her act.   She’s just been the best teacher.  The comments I get the most are: how much I resemble her looks wise for one, but also acting wise.  So, I’m so excited to see what people have to say following the airing of this episode.

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What do you think about Josslyn’s combative relationship with Nelle?  I loved on today’s episode that we got to see the scenes where Josslyn clocked Nelle again!

EDEN:  I would love to slap Nelle again!  Chloe is one of my closest friends on that set.  Even though we haven’t worked together as much as we used to, we are still very close, and I learned a lot from her.  Scenes with her are always so juicy.

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Where do you think Josslyn is at this point in her love life?  Is she still really into Dev (Ashton Arbab)? Does she truly loves Cameron, but can’t admit it to herself? 

EDEN:  I think that’s it. With Dev, he was an intriguing character with a very different background than Josslyn.  They say opposites attract, and I think that goes along with this story a little bit.  He’s just something that’s new, and someone who she is intrigued by, and I think that’s realistic.  I know that’s happened to me in my love life before.  I’m not sure where it’s really going to go between Dev and Josslyn.  Then for Cam, I think she doesn’t want to admit the feelings that she has for him to herself because that’s a whole big can of worms. I think she feels that once she admits that it might – not necessarily ruin their friendship – but taint it.  Cam is such a safe place and such a home for Josslyn.  I feel like if she were to admit that to herself, she’d be like, “Oh, no.  I’m going to make this uncomfortable and weird, and I can’t lose Cam as a friend.”  That’s always kind of been where her head is at, but I think as she spends more time with him, her feelings become more and more clear.  You never really know what’s going to happen, and I don’t think she’s set on anything.  Teenagers are just all over the place with feelings, and one day they feel this and one day they don’t.  So, it’s always such fun to play because I know some fans are dying to see Cameron and Josslyn get together that and some people don’t want to see that.  It’s fun to hear everybody out and to hear everyone’s opinions on it.  For me, I just hope it can be something fun to watch.  That’s always the goal.

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So now Trina has shared a kissed Cam, and Josslyn doesn’t know that yet.  What do you think her reaction is going to be when she finds out? 

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EDEN:  It will be interesting to see how the writers do that when she does find out, because Trina has been a great friend to Josslyn, and Josslyn wants to be a great friend back, and of course, Joss is a great friend to Cam.  These are her two best friends.  She doesn’t really want to be anything but supportive.  I feel there is going to be a lot of internal struggle with that because I think that action is probably going to make her realize, and come to terms with some feelings that she has probably been avoiding, for sure.

Do you think that Josslyn has truly moved on with her life following her last boyfriend, Oscar’s heartbreaking death, so that she can welcome and accept new love into her life?

EDEN:  I think she’s moved on, at least I hope so!  That’s a pain that she’ll take with her for the rest of her life, and an experience that she’ll always have in her back pocket. That’s great as an actor … to have had a deep, influential experience because you can bring that into certain scenes and make them stronger.  Right now, I think she’s just trying to be normal and feel normal things, and that’s where I hope that her story will continue to go.  Life goes on, and we have awesome teenage characters that I’m happy to be a part of and working with.

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Whenever the fans have seen William Lipton and you together, they have noticed that you get along so well. What can you say about William?

EDEN:   We do get along so well.  William is the best.  He’s really like a sibling.

Would you like to see more scenes between Jax and Josslyn? Don’t you think he should be more involved with his biological daughter’s life?

EDEN:  Yes!  From day one of meeting Ingo five years ago, he just made it so comfortable for me.  We have had a complete connection.  We share so many similar traits.  For instance, we both love the beach and we have a similar drive.  I will say that our relationship outside of the scenes is what makes those scenes what they are and what makes them fun to watch, and why when you’re watching, you feel like, “How is this not real?”  So, that’s why he is one of my all-time favorite scene partners.

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Your mom was, and is, a big GH fan, right?

EDEN:  Yes, she grew up watching GH in her sorority house, and her two crushes were Sonny (Maurice Benard) and Jax (Ingo Rademacher), and I’m their kid on the show!  I remember when I auditioned for Josslyn.  I was given a fake script with a fake character name on it, so, we didn’t really know what my family tree looked like, or anything.  When my mom saw Maurice and Ingo in person for the first time, and I remember her freaking out.  I can’t even imagine what it was like for her.  My mom was just as excited as me to have this opportunity.

Are you at home quarantining, and taking care of yourself during this COVID-19 pandemic that we all find ourselves facing together? How’s that been going for you?

EDEN:  It’s going good.  I’m not complaining about staying in bed. (Laughs)  No, it’s been fun just trying new things and spending time with the family. You know, I’m usually so busy that it’s nice to have a little down time for a minute, but I naturally like to stay present and connect with people on social media, et

What are the fans saying to you most on social media that they want for Joss? 

EDEN:  I am hearing a lot about Cam.  It’s a big, “Is that going to happen?  Is that not going to happen?  Team Cam/Team Not Cam.”  That’s always fun because I love to have rivalries.  That means that people are invested in the story.  I get a lot of Jax things, like, “Where’s Jax?  We need more Jax and Josslyn,” and I completely agree.  However my dream, (and I think what a lot of people want to see) is Josslyn’s rebellion and gearing away from the goody-two-shoes person she is for a minute.

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That would be in-line and typical for the daughter of Carly, right?

EDEN:  Yeah, that’s what I’m saying.  When I hear about what Carly had done at my age and in the past, I’m like, “I have that DNA.”   Carly had a very painful upbringing with not a lot of parental supervision and support.  She had no father figure growing up, and Josslyn has had two. That really shapes a person and makes them who they are, but I do feel like with all of the pain the Josslyn has gone through; some kind of off-the-rails moment would be fun to play and will be hopefully in her future.

So, what did you think of Eden’s performance of young Carly on today’s episode of GH? Do you want Josslyn to end up romantically with Cameron or someone else? Do you think Josslyn should display a more rebellious side given that she is Carly’s daughter? Share your thoughts via the comment section below.

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GENERAL HOSPITAL: Nina Has a Feeling She Has ‘A Daughter Out There’

The latest promo for this week’s episodes of General Hospital has been released and from the looks of it – and a key episode set to air on Wednesday April 8th – the mystery surrounding if Nina’s (Cynthia Watros) biological daughter is alive, and if so who is it, looks to be kicking into high gear.

There is that necklace that Nina is looking at in the promo, Nelle (Chloe Lanier) who seemingly now is being given an opportunity to work with Nina thus getting closer to her who notices the necklace, and then there is Willow (Katelyn MacMullen), who many have thought could actually be Nina’s daughter given their original tense relationship.

And coming up on Wednesday, look for a special episode where the show looks at Carly’s (Laura Wright) past with her adoptive parents Frank and Virginia Benson before she came to Port Charles in 1996.

Look for Eden McCoy (Josslyn) to play a young Carly, Cynthia Watros to play Virginia, James Patrick Stuart to play Valentin, and Willa Rose to play a young Nelle.  What will we learn from that episode?

Now below watch the latest teaser from GH, and let us know if you think Nina will finally figure out who her real bio-daughter is via the comment section below.

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