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Y&R’s Courtney Hope Talks On Sally Losing Her Baby, The Emotional Scenes, Adam & Nick, and the Story’s Profound Effect

By Michael Fairman

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A mother losing her baby has often been told on soap opera. However, the aftermath as executed on last week’s episodes of The Young and the Restless, was, in particular, heartbreaking.

At the epicenter of it was Sally Spectra (Courtney Hope), pregnant with Adam’s (Mark Grossman) baby, and with her current boyfriend and Adam’s brother, Nick (Joshua Morrow). nowhere to be found (he was off saving Sharon and Faith from the clutches of Cameron Kirsten), it was Adam who had to step up and make the decision … save the life of Sally, or their baby? He chose Sally, and the baby died, leaving Sally absolutely devastated and blaming Adam for his choice.

In magnificent performances by Courtney Hope, along with Mark Grossman, Sally’s pain and trying to cope with the loss struck a nerve in so many viewers, both men and women alike, who have at some point suffered the loss of a child, from whether a baby was stillborn to losing a child later in life.

Michael Fairman TV spoke with Courtney on: playing the scenes that were so emotionally-draining, working with Joshua and Mark in key moments in Sally’s loss, if she sees Adam as Sally’s true love, and some recent online theories that maybe the child is somehow alive. Hope’s work is also our choice for the Power Performance of the Week. Here’s what she shared on the moving storyline and more.

This performance of yours has been just amazing and gut-wrenching. I was looking on my site and I haven’t seen anything quite like this in a really long time. People are sharing their stories of losing a baby in the comment section after what you had written your Instagram story about portraying the loss of a baby. That’s what can be amazingly powerful in this medium, to know how affected viewers were on the portrayal and the story. I will share what one woman said: “I lost my baby girl.  She was taken from me, and my husband at the time made the decision for them to take my girl and save my life and I refused to let her go. I had the nurse being there to hold and sing a song to her. She’s always with me. This episode was so epic for me. I never forgave the doctor or my husband. I cried and left the hospital 70 pounds lighter. I wouldn’t eat, I didn’t take the drugs. I died inside. Thank you for your portrayal. This is a great story. You did a terrific job. God bless all mothers who’ve lost their one and only.”

COURTNEY: I’ve received so many stories as well. It’s just been beautiful to witness. Some women, they’ll post about it and then someone else will comment on theirs and then they end up in a dialogue. It’s just very profound.

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At what point did you know that Sally was going to lose the baby? Did you know this from the beginning of the storyline, or did you find out when you opened your script one day?

COURTNEY: No, I found out about a month before it happened. When I found out I was heartbroken, and when I found out it was right before I was about to shoot some scenes. I remember after I got done, I was getting ready to drive home and I actually cried a little bit.  It was so sad. I wanted that baby for Sally for so long and with Adam.

In hindsight, you probably wish you hadn’t known about it, but they had to tell you.

COURTNEY: I know! When they called me to tell me she would lose the baby, I was like, “What? You’re kidding?” One of the producers is the one that told me. I was like, “Oh, my God.” Then, they told me how it’s going to happen. Not in detail, but like “this is the synopsis of how it happens.”  I just was immediately heartbroken. I am glad that I did find out because I immediately that night went to the drawing board and really started to gather other people’s stories and really sat with it.  I was able to have that month to really sit in that loss and what that would look like.

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It was anguishing just for the viewers. How did you get through the actual taping and then how did you feel afterwards? Were you like, “OK, I’m going to go home now,” or were you so deeply affected and that couldn’t get back to your own life?

COURTNEY: My body absolutely went through it. I was exhausted. I know the last day when Sally says, ” I would like to see my baby now,” my brother and his girlfriend actually messaged me right before I went on set and said, they were at a nearby restaurant. They said, “We wanted to surprise you and take you to lunch because we know you’ve had a really rough couple of weeks at work.” When I got done with the scenes, I just like sat in the hospital bed for a second, and they moved sets and started to film at another set. I just had to sit there for a second.  When I went over to meet my brother and his girlfriend, I actually felt like I was going to pass out.  I eventually came home and slept. My body didn’t understand the difference. My brain knew it wasn’t real, but my body just didn’t. I definitely wanted to pay respects to the loss of a child as a whole, a stillbirth or losing a child mid to late term. Then, what it’s like and all the details of it, right? I wanted to kind of encapsulate it as a whole. I just really tried to, during those couple weeks, just anytime I wasn’t at work, take care of myself.  I knew that my body was going to go through it. That’s what we sign up for as actors and it’s what I love to do and that’s tell stories. Sometimes that means, me being that vessel. It’s not always an easy story to tell, but that’s life, right? That’s what’s written. When I wasn’t at work I was really meditating and doing breathing work, eating healthy and drinking lots of water. I was talking to myself like. “Hey, you know, I’m going to take care of you. You got this.” When it was finally over and I had taped all the emotional scenes, that weekend I just went to my parent’s house and just really vegged out.

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There were so many hankie-inducing moments in your performance when Sally found out she lost her baby.  However, the one that really got to me was when she rang the call button and said, “I’m ready to see my baby now.”

COURTNEY: That was the hardest moment for me. I don’t even know if you can really see it in the shot, but my body was shaking so bad, that my chin started chattering and it was crazy. I don’t think my body’s ever been through anything like that. My chin is chattering uncontrollably out of this stress. I kind of just went into all those scenes going, “Whatever happens, happens. I know, I’ve done the work. I’m just going to allow myself to just be here and, and be open to whatever’s going to come.”  It was rough. Originally, I was like, “Are they going to write a scene where Sally holds her baby?” Afterwards, I was really glad they didn’t.

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I was worried we were going to get that scene, too! I thought Mark Grossman was so great in this as well. In one of the scenes, you’re supposed to be there with your eyes closed sleeping, and Adam is at Sally’s bedside professing all of to her including the thought of losing her. Adam says, “We may not be together, but I can’t imagine a world without you.” He adds “You need to know that I dreamed of this baby, too. I loved who she would be, our spicy little girl.” Adam also admits, “I knew the choice that you would want. You would choose her because you love her, but I choose you because I love you.” So, here is Mark acting his heart out, and you’re hearing all this, but can’t really react. Although, later we find out Sally did hear what Adam said to her.

COURTNEY: It was heartbreaking. There were a couple moments when I had tears in my eyes. I thought to myself, “Please don’t have a tear fall from my face because I’m supposed to be asleep.” (Laughs). Mark is just brilliant and wonderful as an actor. To be there with him, and to know the story that we’ve created, and the relationship we’ve built around Adam and Sally and to also know that Sally does love Adam and she knows that he lost a child, too. Sally just can’t get past the reality that’s right in front of her, and so hearing him say those things definitely made it hard to not respond. I remember, there was a scene a couple weeks ago where right before we went to the hospital, where Adam kind of tucks Sally in bed and then he goes to walk away and I go and grab his hand. I kind of had that same urge to want to pull him close, but then also have that moment of just being still really angry at the situation as a whole, which is being reflected on him. So, there was a lot going on through it. I just kept thinking, “Please don’t let a tear come out of this closed eyeball right now, because they’re going to have to shoot it again, and I don’t want to have to do that to Mark.”

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What was the rehearsal process like for you and Mark? How did you take it from rehearsal to the set? Were many of the emotional scenes shot in one take?

COURTNEY: We ran lines it a lot and we sat a lot with it, too. We actually got on the phone that week too, a couple times, before we would go to bed and just kind of FaceTimed what we were going to portray with it because we both knew how impactful this story was. We both wanted to do our due diligence about it. Both of us have experienced loss in our lives and we wanted to band together and figure out how we get this story across in the most authentic way possible. It was also important to work on the difference between a male and a female, a father and a mother and being ex’s, right? They’re not together. Sally’s with Nick. So, how did that look rather than being a husband and wife who lose a baby. There were just so many details. Then, when we got to set, we would run the scene, but we also spent a lot of time kind of just in silence, sitting in that moment. When they yelled “action”, it became about allowing whatever happened to come about. I found myself getting even angrier in those moments. I remember afterwards, Mark saying it really brought up in him this need to calm me down and wanting me to be okay. We didn’t do that many takes on everything. Mostly one take, maybe two tops on a couple of the scenes. Sometimes, the rehearsal was vastly different than the take because it’s different just every time you do it. There were so many emotions surging through you, and each time a different one might come to the surface. We were just kind of along for the ride.

The sad part is, Adam so loves her. It was so apparent that he loves Sally even though they’re not together. Do you think Sally really loves him, but she just can’t bring herself to admit that?

COURTNEY: I, personally, truly believe that she is still in love with Adam. That’s how I’ve been playing it. However, Adam did hurt her last year, and so she’s still kind of holding onto that. She then fell for Nick, and loves Nick. and knows of Adam’s history. I think that especially with the baby and in those moments, Adam really showed up and was there for her. I could see through time the deepening of her love again for him, but right now she has Nick there, and she really loves him too.  I think that, mixed with the hormones, there was this back and forth of sometimes she would just be really irritated with Adam, but some of it was just irritation within herself. I just truly believe that she really, really loves Adam, but she’s afraid. She’s scared. Now, with this whole thing that came about and with the baby and the choice, I think it’s just another deep pain for her to have to go through. But again, I do believe she loves Adam. That’s the way I see it. I don’t see how she couldn’t. They’re so similar, but she does love Nick and she wants to respect and honor Nick.  She’s in a predicament!

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There was also a great scene with Joshua Morrow when Nick comes to Sally in the hospital, and tells her to please give Adam a break.  Nick tries to get her to understand that Adam was trying to be there for her, and he was defending his brother, while Sally shut him out.

COURTNEY: I thought it was great. I thought Joshua did a really great job and. Nick has his own drama going on with Sharon and Cameron and Faith. I remember he walked into our scenes, and we’d already done almost all the them, I loved that Nick got to support his brother and to show his vulnerability. His tears came to the rise instantly the second talked about the loss of a child. Everyone was great including Brytni Sarpy (Elena). They were really present and really there, and really committed to telling the story.

You heard the online rumors that Elena may have actually taken Sally’s baby?

COURTNEY: I did! I did read that and I was laughing really hard, but I also was like, “Actually, that would be great though.” I also saw another theory that Victor (Eric Braeden) sold the baby. You just never know!

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I don’t love that kind of storytelling a lot of the times, because it does sort of unwind or then negate what we just saw. I kind of like the drama of, “Oh, my God. This is so heartbreaking.”  

COURTNEY: I completely agree with you.

You are one lucky girl. You’ve got Joshua and Mark as your leading men.

COURTNEY: I’m very fortunate. I think they’re both absolutely amazing actors. They’re both amazing men.  I’m beyond blessed and they’re both so fun to work with, too. They have a really great balance of taking their work really seriously, but are also playful and they make it fun to where we can go from crying to laughing in a heartbeat.

Sally wanted the baby to be Nick’s, correct? That is what she really was hoping for?

COURTNEY: I think she definitely did. I think it would’ve just been easier. However, I think in time, she settled into the realization and being okay with the baby being Adam’s, especially because he was so attentive. He was present and they had many moments of just really wonderful banter, especially, in the beginning. The last thing I think that she wanted at all was to have the baby be her ex’s, which is also this new guy’s brother, right? It’s hard when you’re having a baby with someone. What I witnessed through this storyline is you are going to gravitate to connecting with them. For instance, when Adam and Sally are looking at the ultrasound and Nick’s feeling uncomfortable as a third wheel. It’s hard to find that balance. I really tried to do that with Sally. It was definitely a tough and challenging triangle to play.

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This week in an upcoming episode, Sally really unleashes on Nick and she also blames him for not being there for her when she lost the baby.

COURTNEY: I’m really glad that does happen too. I think Sally’s got such a history of not getting what she wants, being left out to dry, being left alone, abandoned, all of the above. I think there is a safety in Nick that she really was holding onto. She was afraid and scared, and the last thing she wants is to get it into with Nick because she does love Nick. However, he was gone dealing with Cameron’s return, and him always saying to Sally, “I’m going to be there for you.” I think it was also the harsh realization of he does have an actual family, an ex, ex-partner, ex-wife, a child. Nick has had to save many children in general throughout his life, and for her she kind of feels left out. I think it was just another core wound for Sally to have salt poured into, plus her hormones are all over the place. She definitely unleashes on Nick. In addition, Sally has always been like the underdog, the one that fights back. Even in the midst of chaos or trauma or whatever, she’s always risen above. Sally has definitely gotten the short end of the stick a lot of times. It was hard for me, at first, to see that fight kind of dwindle out of her in the midst of all of this. I think it was essential to kind of have her lash out at Nick and kind of have this moment of pointing fingers and, and losing that grounding and that chutzpah that she’s always had from her great aunt Sally and her grandmother. It was sad to see, but she’s human. It was different for her to lash out Nick like that because they’re always so lovey-dovey. They never fight.

What do you think the near future looks like for Sally? Do you think she’s going to be wallowing in the grief of losing her child? Is she going to want to get back to work to work and kick ass?

COURTNEY: Sally is slowly but surely going to find her way back to herself and that fire that she’s always had. This loss is only going to make her stronger. It’s going to ground her even deeper in her mission. Sally has become very dependent over the last year and not wanting to be alone. I think growing through this loss and this experience will really bring her back to herself. It’ll be interesting to see what happens; where she ends up, and where she doesn’t end up.

Did you watch back the episodes back of your performances that aired last week? 

COURTNEY: I did watch it, because the most important thing for me was that I just portrayed it as best as I could and people could relate. I had a few people in mind from my personal life that have lost children in different capacities and I just kept saying, “If I can honor these three stories of a child loss, a miscarriage, and a stillbirth that I know of, if I can honor all three, then that’s what matters most to me.”

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Courtney, it was just amazing and beautiful and just touched so many people. I just have to give you just kudos.

COURTNEY: I appreciate it. I also have to say The Young and the Restless did a great job too of it too in the writing, and trusting me with the story. I also appreciate you sharing that story in the beginning of what that woman said. It makes me happy that people feel safe enough to be able to open up about their stories and feel like they’re not alone. I have to say too, Mark and I have had this conversation during our rehearsals. Both of us actually have lost our brothers and witnessed our families go through that. We were just saying recently, that it’s interesting that we both got this story because one of our main missions in life, in general, is derived from that loss when we were so young, and what it did to us and our families, and really wanting to make the most of life and to tell these stories when someone’s going through something, and being there. I said, “Isn’t it crazy that we both had this experience and then this is the story that we get?” Obviously, it just thrusts us even more into going, “We’ve got to do this justice” and for our families as well.  I’m glad that a lot of people’s stories are coming to light and that people are able to share it, because sharing can really bring the healing. I’m thankful to be a part of it.

What did you think of Courtney Hope’s performance as Sally loses her baby, blames Adam for it, and tries to come to grips with the harrowing truth? Do you want Sally to wind up with Adam or Nick? Share your thoughts in the comment section, but first check out the scene where Sally asks to see her baby which was one of the most heart-tugging performances in the story.

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Courtney took it to a whole other level. It was actually a great week for acting on Y&R all around. All performance and such tough stories. I can tell you the run of Linden Ashby was just to short but brilliant. I’m definitely team Sally and Adam.

Adam and Sally are like dry paint total zero chemistry.

Are we watching the same show?

Good answer!!!!

Absolutely not… She and Adam completely belong together.. Sally and Nick are the paint drying.. lol.. they are to forced.. and just an odd couple..

Well said!!!

I agree

I’m sorry. Only a person that’s emotionally numb could miss feeling the chemistry between Adam and Sally. It literally jumps off the screen.

Definitely team sally and adam already . Team nick and sharon

Absolutely….Nick and Sharon ….Adam and Sally. But…..Don’t change the actor of Adam again. Please!!!Fake world why not have their baby alive????

Team Sharon and Chance

I love Sally & Adam together! Adam really loves Sally! They have been so much heartache together! Adam was very good to his mother and has alot of her qualities. Nick is much older & has had so many relationships & several children. I think he’s more of a protective father figure to Sally. Did everyone forget how many times Nick cheated on Sharon! He wasn’t a saint either. I’m for Sally & Adam together & hoping the baby is still alive!

She saw her dead baby how can it be alive and Elena is such a good doctor and trustworthy person. It would look bad on her part for a baby. She would need a good reason to do this crazy thing

I absolutely agree with you. It definitely would be a Y&R mistake to write a scene as that. Courtney Hope deserves a Daytime Emmy!

I agree, what would be her motive to do something like that? What could she possibly gain from it? If it were Victoria and Nate then maybe, but Sally and Adam???

Coming from a parent who lost my baby girl after 24 hours, please do not bring the baby back. Sally’s mourning was so real it would be disrespectful to bring Ava back for any reason.

I think Sally and Adam are 2 firecrackers waiting to go off. I hope she ends up with Nick and they can have a life like Lauren and Michael. I hope Nick and Sally will have the chance to be together and have babies of their own.

I love Sally but Adam needs a new love interest bring someone new in

Where was her best friend and partner Chole during all this you would think she would be there for Sally

I’m tired of this never ending triangle.

Courtney zhope and Mark were just amazing in those scenes. Spot on acting. I hope they when an emmy. I cried as my sister had lost a baby,and my niece recently lost her baby at birth. Very sad. Job well done!!

I have played the scenes over and over again and I cry each time. I lost a baby 40 years ago and the pain is still there. Courtney and Mark were remarkable! I definitely want Sally and Adam back together. They are meant for each other plus the reunion will be epic!

That baby was speculated not to be Adams since he was never tested Sally should return to B&B and start a romance with a returning Oliver Jones played again by Zack Conroy.

Her acting rock it! She was amazing !!!!! Keep it up, she a great actress!

I cried with Sally. Her portrayal of a grieving mother was brilliant. I lost my first child, a beautiful baby girl when she was nine weeks old. I also lost my 34 year old son 5 years ago. I felt every tear that Sally cried. Adam was also amazing. I would love to see Adam and Sally together again. ♥️

First and foremost, my deepest condolences in the loss of your children. I certainly feel Courtney Hope deserves a Daytime Emmy. Her exceptional talent came through with absolute brilliance!

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Courtney was amazing. I felt her pain and cried for her forgetting for just a moment she was acting! Really hope Sally can forgive Adam and finds her way back to him.

I want Sally and Adam together and Nick and Sharon back together

Courtney and Mark did a great job. You could feel the pain. I felt they were friends of mine and I wanted to take their pain away.

This is some of the best acting I have seen in a long time! Courtney should be with Mark. They have been through so much and truly love each other. There could be some really good stories with the two of them together!!!!

If she does end up with Adam I hope it won’t be like an affair relationship, I would hope that she just lays it out on the line with Nick. But I’m still Nick and Sally together forever.

With adam

Sally and Adam was great! I want them back together!

Yep we needed another baby on this show JG shut it down now can we stop we stop with JM at almost 50 being thrown into baby triangles ! And let’s discuss the matter of Christian you know the kid that JFP thought we needed. The show is horrible address the issues write it off move on. Might not be smart to pair MG up with a new leading lady he has a problem with being professional has to carry on with his leading ladies

You know the old saying…it takes two to tango! Don’t just Blane Mark!!

How about Sally can’t forgive Adam or Nick so she focuses on herself & her business ONLY for the next year or so!

Miss the “old”Sally. She has lost all her spunk and vitality since being linked with the Newman boys.

I really think Courtney Hope did a really good job with the acting on losing a child I’ve been watching the young restless ever since it came on and I’m 70 years old and I lost a child when he was 8 years old he was hit by a drunk driver and didn’t make it so I know the feeling of losing the child that lives in a baby while it’s still inside you is totally different but I just want to say Sally did a fantastic job and I could not help but cry when all this happened so keep up the good work Courtney and Adam

That was an Emmy Award winning performance! Phenomenal job!

Brilliant acting! I’m hoping Sally and Adam get back together and have a successful birth.

I want Sally and Adam back together just loved their Chemistry together…I think they will be fierce as a couple and if they went into business together people better watch out..really was hoping their daughter would of Survive but had a feeling with all the stress she was going through she was going lose the baby.

The absolute best performances ever! I was hurting for Sally, yet I wanted to comfort Adam, such intense emotion and so well done. I also felt the struggle within Nick, as he tried so desperately to say the right things. VERY well done!!!

The performance by Courtney Hope in portraying a woman who lost her baby was realistic and riveting, I cried for her. Mark Grossman’s, and Josh Morrows performances were also wonderful. I hope Sally and Adam get together. Adam obviously loves Sally intensely, and sorry I think Nick and Sharon are destined to be together.

OMG! Courtney and Mark deserve Emmy awards. Having to play that loss, and both did it so well, no other performance on TV or movies have been acted as well. Not even Eliot losing Kathy-on SVU could compare.

Please go back to Adam!

I want Sally & Adam to have a second chance. I hope they will be able to have a baby!!

I really wish Adam would have walked in Sally’s hospital room while she was saying goodbye to Ava and the moment would have made Sally give into her feelings for Adam.❤️

Sally and Adam must get back together. They are a powerful couple and to witness Adam going through this;he and Sally are an amazing power couple…

I did not mention earlier that Courtney’s performance brought me to tears. Outstanding performance Courtney! Mark and Joshua were great as well!

I thought that courtney hope did such a great job and she deserves an award heck she deserves an oscar

I think Sally and Adam should be together because they truly love each other. And, she ðoes not need to move in with Nick!

I’m team Sally and Adam. They both we’re so committed to this and in my opinion nailed it. I know Adam loves Sally and in time she to will realize that Nick is not her world she once thought he was.

I think Salley deserves to be with Nick he has a genuine love for her and this will allow her to become her true self With Adam it will be more about himself and his life drama and constant need to be in opposition with his family. She needs to be her own person and Nick can give her the empowerment and love she needs to become the SALLY SPECTRA / NEWMAN who gets it all in the end 😉 !

Oh I 100% agree. Spot on.

I love her with Nick!!He balances her while Adam is too much like her. Nick is so caring. I love both the actors. Courtney is beyond lucky!

Yes yes yes ❤️

The acting was great but the baby wasn’t Developed enough to survive so blaming Adam for making those decision was stupid. Elena knew that the baby wouldn’t survive and for her to tell adam to make a decision that was so lame. she knew it wouldn’t have lived anyway. Someone messed up on that scene and to let someone that wasn’t her family to make that life and death decision could only be family. I love watching this show, but some of it was far fetched even though they did great acting.

I’m with you Linda
I like Courtney’s acting but the continual whineing and blaming was getting on my nerves.

I agree with you. I know losing a baby is hard. But blaming everyone else when really Sally body wasn’t strong enough to carry to term.

Right on! I was wondering when someone would come to that conclusion. Elena should not have been involved because of her own emotional upheaval of dealing with Nate and Vitoria, so how could she have given Adam the advice she gave him, to make a choice between Sally and the baby.

I’m sorry to ask this but how far along was Sally when she lost her baby? Thank you.

Thought the whole story line was HORRIBLE. the baby was no where near developed enough to live. So utterly absurd to play the blame game. I had a miscarriage in between my daughters and I never sought to blame anyone. I know the hurt and the pain but her over the top hysteria makes me cringe. Courtney blew the chance to make this believable. I will also point out that a Dr would never lead her to believe that the baby would survive that early.

I want Sally and Adam together. I want them to be the forever couple like Victor and Nicky. I want the baby to be alive but stolen or another clever storyline. One thing going on I do not like is all the drinking of alcohol. Everyone who has an unpleasant experience hits the bottle. With today’s mental health issues and substance abuse issues this is not smart. Everyone on the show except for Sally, Sharon and Summer are going to end up in a rehab and AA.

So true. I told my husband when does any of their work get done at their jobs.zyou also need a replacement for Summer and Victoria. They are horrible actresses.

So heart rending and touching with Sally as well as danger for Sharon and Faith! Edge of the seat for sure! My heart aches for Adam and I would love to see Sally fall back in love with him and Nick end up with Sharon, where he’s always belonged.

I balled my eyes out. I nearly lost my baby, spent months in bed to delivery day. I told my Husband before my 14 hr labor. “If there’s a choice to be made, I want the baby to live”! I honestly don’t know how a person faced with that decision, would be able to. Excellent acting Courtney & Mark!!

I really hope the baby is alive and some crazy nurse took her,not Elena. I am definitely team Adam and Sally.

I think Adam and Sally belong together! They were great together!!!

I think it was heartbreaking that they lost the baby but it wasn’t Adam’s fault he loves her that’s why he made the decision to lose his baby girl too but he still had Sally you can have more kids but it’s nothing like your first and to lose your first is still a bit hole in your heart I think she should forgive him and get back with him because he do loves her and I think Nick and Sharon should get back together

Team Sally and Adam all the way. Courtney and Mark brought so much depth to this storyline. I had a full term stillborn son Travis in 1975. I never got to see him, hold him or bury him. I never got a certificate of death, it’s like he never existed. I didn’t received a box like Sally did to take home. Just empty arms and a hole in my heart. I think of my son every day and wonder what life would have been like if he had lived. Courtney and Mark you did an amazing job portraying all of us who have lost a child. Bravo!!! I hope somehow Adam and Sally get back together again.

I think she did an amazing job of portraying such a very sad and vulnerable time in someone’s life. I think the cast that was involved in the telling of this storyline were very sensitive to the issue.

I think this will bring Sally and Adam to find closure and bring them together. They both have been through so much. Also, I think Nick and Sharon belong together. They keep finding their way back to each other.

This was so emotional for me. She did a perfect j performance. I lost a child 40 years ago & this brought back all of how I felt back then. It was like it happened yesterday. It was so sad She is a terrific actress. I feel for Adam & Sally. Thank you for such an emotional show

The acting was superb! Kudos to all. Respectfully, the relevant script was a bit long for me, however, that is easily overlooked considering the quality.

Respectfully, once again, for me, Sally’s fingernails dominated one of the most precious and lovely scenes. I fall into the category of feeling she was not far enough along for anyone to be asked should circumstances require a choice, which one should survive. Is it now proper protocol to offer gifts under such a delicate circumstance?

Comments are rather petty considering what a gift it was to watch and feel the presentation. Thanks to both Sally and Adam.

Replying for myself. The presentation by Sally, mostly, and Adam was outstanding. The overwhelming consensus has been for Sally and Adam to get together. I saw a chemistry between the two actors long before knowing a real thing was happening with both of them. That kind of changes my thoughts regarding what happens next.

Not to get too real here remembering this is a Soap, but the expense of Sally’s “room” must be at least $250 a day if dreaming. Nick could offer a space to live with no “ties.”

Everyone needs to decompress! Give this tim

Please finally put Sally & Adam together!! Nick belongs with Sharon! Also Kyle doesn’t deserve Summer. I hope Audra really screws him over. He deserves it acting like he’s never made a mistake. His mother did worse because he was just a child. At least Phyllis’ children are adults.

In all honesty, Adam and Sally should definitely be together….. Nicholas is just like his dad, he’s been with every woman in Y&R!!!
LET ADAM AND SALLY BE HAPPY FOR ONCE!!!! Damn

I agree most wholeheartedly, and he is also like his sleep with anything mother NICKY!!!

Courtney… I am just in awe of you.. Your beauty, intelligence and acting prowess.. I was bawling my eyed out and am still emotionally connected to your scenes..I love Mark and yourself together and wish it were true outside of Y&R.
Thank you for you xxx

Excellent performance from both Sally and Adam. So sad that they lost the baby. I was so cheering for them and hoping this brought them back together. I want them together more than Sally and Nick. Sally and Nick do not have chemistry at all. Such a tragic story they portrayed and they did it with such style and grace. I hope it was of help to others who may have gone through the same tragic situation.

I think Courtney did a fantastic job as did Adam.. it was so totally heartbreaking the day she lost the baby… i couldn’t believe it..how sad.. I think I am still crying… And would also love for her to go back with Adam… They are meant to be.. her and Nick do not have the chemistry that her and Adam have..

I thought Courtney’s portrayal of losing her baby was so heart wrenching that it brought tears to my eyes. She is such a great actress but please Y&R put Sally back with Adam. Adam is always being cast aside while Nick and Victoria get everything they want. Spoiled little Rich kids

I agree

I hope Sadly returns to her spicy, bad ass self and lands with Adam! I hope they band together in love and business to make McCall Enterprises a HUGE rival for Newman Enterprises & take over Newman Media…. and more! But never split them up. They are on fire together, whether or not they end up being sincere & cunning or assholes is left to be seen!!

Great reply! The connection with the businesses is respected. To date, I cannot expand my thoughts that far. However, that is a great response! I too have been following the business possibilities.

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‘The Bold and the Beautiful’s’ Heather Tom Talks Daytime Emmy-Nominated Scenes and What’s Behind Katie’s Deep-Seated Issues with Dylan (Exclusive)

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The Bold and the Beautiful’s Heather Tom (Katie Logan) is heading into the 53rd annual Daytime Emmys next month with a chance to win not one, but two gold statuettes to add to her collection of six!

Heather is once again a nominee for the Outstanding Lead Actress in a Daytime Drama Series, and for the first time a nominee as part of B&B’s writing team in the Outstanding Writing for a Daytime Drama Series category.

Currently, Heather is tied with One Life to Live icon, Erika Slezak (Ex-Viki) as the actresses with the most wins in Daytime Emmy history. An acting victory by Tom would break the tie, although Slezak’s wins have all been for Lead Actress, while Tom literally grew up before our eyes over 35 years in daytime, and has won in all three actress categories: Younger, Supporting and Lead.

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Whether Tom wins the gold this year, next year is looking even like stronger lock with Heather delivering some of the best work of her career, over the last several months. Who can forget Katie’s showdown with her sister Brooke (Katherine Kelly Lang) over the creation of her own fashion house named Logan, that slap from Brooke, and eventually being disowned from the Logan family by Brooke and their sister, Donna (Jennifer Gareis). 

This fall, Katie is in full momma bear-mode and being overprotective of her son Will Spencer’s (Crew Morrow) heart and pocketbook. In story, Katie has a massive distrust of Melissa Dylan, who has made her move on her son, while Will is still trying to deal with the break-up with the love of his life Electra Forrester.

During a live chat this week on the Michael Fairman Channel, Heather opened up on a myriad of subjects, including why Dylan gets under Katie’s skin in such a major way, and what scenes earned her a shot at Lead Actress gold at the October 30th Daytime Emmy ceremony.

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HEATHER TOM’S DAYTIME EMMY SUBMISSION

In daytime, Heather Tom does it all, she acts, directs and writes for The Bold and the Beautiful. When deciding what material to submit for Emmy competition with its eligibility rules of episodes from 2025, it relayed heavily on scenes with her longtime B&B scene partner, Don Diamont (Bill Spencer).

“I submitted material having to do with the Luna (Lisa Yamada) storyline and having to do with Katie and Bill. I love that Katie and Bill have been really trying to find their way back to each other for, honestly, five years. He’s been trying to woo her back. Katie’s been like, ‘No.’ However, they come together, especially over their son, Will (Crew Morrow) and they have a very real relationship-type of discussion. It wasn’t an argument. It was more about, ‘I know you. Don’t do this.’ That’s always kind of been Katie’s relationship with Bill. The scenes with Don Diamont were about Katie and Bill’s history, the pain, and the drama, and especially about their son, seemed very familiar to me.”

Heather added, “There’s also a couple scenes with Will and Luna, when Katie finds out that Luna is pregnant. Katie was like, ‘Nope! Our son is having a baby with somebody, and we’re going to figure this out. We’ve got means and the ability to do this. I don’t care if we have to take this baby away from Luna because she’s crazy, we’ll figure it out.’ They were some really good scenes that I felt very proud of. I thought to myself, “OK, this is Katie really taking a stand for her son, and having these conversations with Bill where I just felt they were real and honest.”

In conclusion to standing by her choices of scenes, Heather explained, “It was nice to see Bill and Katie operating as a parental unit and have her be like, “Yep, we’re not doing this. You know, you can’t force Luna to do anything, so let’s just figure out how we’re dealing with this.” Katie was kind of the adult in the room. Then, the scenes where Bill says to Katie, “You have to come back to me and I need you,” while Katie shed a few tears, she still didn’t take him back, not yet.”

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DYLAN BROKE THE ‘GIRLFRIEND CODE’

There are specific reasons why Katie has it out for Melissa Dylan. In fact, Dylan went so far as to get her mother Darcy Dylan to town to shut down Katie’s suspicions of her, but it still isn’t swaying Katie away from her stance on the matter. Heather revealed how she is playing the scenes.

“So, here’s the deal. It’s multifaceted,” began Tom. “This girl pushes Katie’s buttons. She reminds her of her sister, Brooke (Katherine Kelly Lang), and what Katie’s going through with her sister right now is very unpleasant. I think she looks at this girl and says, “This girl is going to crawl over anyone to get what she wants. And right now, she wants my son, and she’s willing to throw her best friend (Electra) under the bus.”

Heather also said, “Honestly, there’s something known as the ‘girlfriend code.’ Would you like to know what the girlfriend code is? ‘The girlfriend code’ is if your girlfriend, who is also your best friend, dates a guy and is especially in love with him, it doesn’t matter if you break up, that guy is off limits. You need to find yourself another guy.”

KATIE’S TROUBLES WITH BROOKE AND DYLAN MAKE HER TAKE A STAND

Katie clearly draws a similarity to her sister Brooke and Melissa Dylan which is also driving her attitude, which Heather confirmed. “So to Katie, it’s like Dylan broke that code. She is someone who follows her heart just like Brooke and leaves carnage in her wake,” said Tom.

She continued, “I think Katie looks at her and goes ‘Okay, one, you were living in your car. You didn’t call your mother who clearly loves you and ask her for help, but you were more than willing to take help from this, lovely rich guy.’ I think Katie feels like the fact that Dylan has been so expressive of how in love she is with Will, I think she finds that a little weird.  She’s telling him that she’s e in love with him, and he doesn’t say it back to you. So, clearly he’s in not in love with you.”

In story, Katie can’t trust a young woman, who knows her son doesn’t feel the same way about her and yet is still hanging around. Heather shared Katie’s viewpoint to Dylan: “He’s clearly in love with your best friend. So, isn’t it a little unsettling that she kind of keeps saying she’s in love with him? So that’s my multifaceted reason why Katie doesn’t like her. It really has nothing to do with the fact that she came from humble beginnings because Katie did too. That being said, the Spencers are billionaires, so she would have to also look out for that. However, I don’t think that’s the main reason why she doesn’t like this girl or doesn’t trust her. I really don’t.”

You can check out the full conversation from our livestream conversation on the Michael Fairman Channel below.

Now let us know, are you rooting for Heather Tom to win the Lead Actress Daytime Emmy? What did you think of the scenes she submitted? Will Katie be proven right about Melissa Dylan, or will her distrust blow up in her face and she will wind up respecting Dylan when all is said and done? Weigh-in via the comment section.

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‘The Bold and the Beautiful’s’ Kelly Sullivan Talks Becoming Darcy Dylan, Who’s Melissa’s Dad, and Future Love Interest (Exclusive)

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Kelly Sullivan made her triumphant return to daytime on recent episodes of The Bold and the Beautiful in her new role as Darcy Dylan, the mother of Melissa Dylan (Sydney Bullock).

In story, Melissa, better known as just “Dylan,” phoned home to her mother to come to Los Angeles, in an effort to calm the waters with Will Spencer’s (Crew Morrow) nosy mother, Katie Logan (Heather Tom), who doesn’t trust Dylan one iota.

Soap fans remember Sullivan from her previous Daytime Emmy-nominated role sas Kate Howard/Connie Falconeri on General Hospital and as Sage Warner on The Young and the Restless. During a livestream conversation exclusively on the Michael Fairman Channel, Kelly spoke about her time on GH and Y&R, and the wonderful co-stars she shared the screen with, and her excitement on her brand new role on B&B.

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As to her thoughts on if Darcy will ultimately prove to be a gold-digger, opportunist, but still has a heart of gold (as we saw in recent scenes with her daughter, seemingly), Sullivan explained, “Characters like Darcy can be dangerous. I think Darcy is a survivor and she can charm. She’s a flirt. She knows what she wants. Darcy is self-made, according to her, and she made it.”

THE DYNAMIC BETWEEN DARCY AND HER DAUGHTER, MELISSA DYLAN

However, Melissa plays a big role in what’s next for Darcy! Kelly explained, “She’s got this beautiful daughter and that was her entire life who is now making her way. Let me tell you, I don’t know what Darcy’s retirement plan is, but one would assume she doesn’t have much savings. This is a great opportunity for her to connect with her daughter and get the lay of the land.”

Finding out that Melissa has been dating Will Spencer from the rich and powerful Spencer family in Los Angeles, while initially a shock, could prove interesting if the mother/daughter were to work together for a common cause, their survival.

Sullivan explained, “Darcy’s all about the tabloids and all about this life of illusion and the haves and have-nots, essentially. She would never shy away from an opportunity to see what’s around the corner. I think the interesting thing for me, that I’m excited about is to explore the dynamic between Darcy and Melissa and what is that going to become?”

From all accounts, Darcy is here to stay in Los Angeles, and fans will see much more of Sullivan on their-screens. “Darcy’s not going anywhere”, confirmed Kelly. “I always said to Sydney Bullock, Darcy didn’t buy a round trip ticket. If you think about it, Melissa could be her ticket. She might be Darcy’s only hope. There are serious stakes here if Darcy has been waiting for this moment.”

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SHARING SCENES WITH HEATHER TOM

Last week, Sullivan had her first on-screen confrontation with Heather Tom. In the scenes, Katie was disapproving of Dylan and let Darcy know it. Eventually, Darcy takes Dylan with her to leave Will’s beach house apartment, but Will stops Dylan.

Recalling the taping of the scenes, Kelly said, “Heather Tom is a real special artist. In the story between Katie and Darcy, you’ve got momma bear and you’ve got momma bear. You can’t fault either of these women for how they feel, and how protective they are of their children.”

There are many things viewers and perhaps the writers have not totally fleshed out about the Dylans. Are their Dylan sisters coming, or to be revealed to rival the Logan sisters? Who is Melissa’s biological father? Plus, some more nuggets as Kelly revealed.

“I think there is a juicy, juicy story there of the Dylans,” previewed Sullivan. “It would also be interesting if they decide who Melissa’s dad is. Who is that? I mean, that’s interesting. You know, when I auditioned for this role, it said on the page that the character was charming, from the Midwest, and dance skills a plus. and I was a Broadway dancer. So, I hope this means there might be an opportunity to dance on the show at some point.”

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DARCY DYLAN AND WYATT SPENCER PAIRING?

As for the men on the canvas, Kelly was asked what she thought of a potential Darcy and Wyatt Spencer (Darin Brooks) pairing? To which she responded, “That would be so much fun. I’m such a fan of Darin’s work. Oh, I would have a ball working with him. One of the things that really excited me about Darcy when I was coming into audition for her was that they said that they wanted her to have a  comedic sensibility, comedic chops as they said it.”

Sullivan concluded, “To work with Darin, I would be so lucky. He’s such a great actor and he’s got great comedic timing and he’s just really present and phenomenally talented. He’s a great actor, so I would love that. I mean, anyone on the show would be really fun.  You throw it at the wall (in daytime) and say, ‘Is there a thing? Is there something here?’ Chemistry is chemistry.”

Now below, and in case you missed it, you can check out our full video livestream chat with Kelly Sullivan below.

So, what have you thought of Kelly’s performances thus far as Darcy? Do you think Darcy will turn out to be an opportunistic woman, but who deeply cares and loves her daughter, or will it turn out to be a ruse? Would you like to see Kelly paired with Darin Brooks on-screen as a love interest, and who do you think truly is Melissa Dylan’s biological father? Weigh-in via the comment section.

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GH and OLTL Alum Patrick J. Gibbons Reveals the Story Behind Writing Trina’s Song on ‘General Hospital’ (Exclusive)

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At the conclusion of today’s August 21 episode of General Hospital, Trina Robinson (Tabyana Ali) sings a lullaby to baby Dez, that went into a montage to close out the episode as her father Curtis Ashford (Donnell Turner) reports to Pentonville and winds up in his jail cell.

However, in a fun fact, the song entitled, “A Lonely Heart To Give” was actually written by none other than former One Life to Live and General Hospital actor, Patrick J. Gibbons.

Daytime fans first met Gibbons as Sam Manning on One Life to Live. At the time, when he started on the soap, he was just 5-years-old. Gibbons played the part from 2010-2013 on ABC and Prospect Park’s editions of the show. Fast-forward to 2018, Gibbons shows up on General Hospital as Wyatt Hoover, the scout who seemed always be injured, but in the thick of the drama. Patrick had appeared on GH multiple times as Wyatt including: 2018, 2019, 2021, 2022, 2023.

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FROM HIS GRANDMOTHER’S DEATH CAME THE INSPIRATION FOR HIS SONG

Now in 2026, General Hospital fans are getting to learn about another side of Gibbons’ talent as a songwriter and guitar player after “A Lonely Heart to Give” debuted today! Michael Fairman TV caught up with Patrick, who is now a senior at Penn State entering his final year as a finance major, to get the back-story of how his song wound up on GH!

Gibbons explained he wrote the song in honor of his grandmother who passed away a few years ago with whom he was, very, very close with. “Randomly, my grandmother had a downfall and passed away during the second semester of my sophomore year. I was in my dorm a lot and I was just playing with my guitar. And at the time, I was really into finger-style playing. I wrote the lyric and music to it (with a little help from my guitar teacher Lou), and my mom showed the rough demo to Frank Valentini (EP, General Hospital). He’s like an uncle to me. Frank loved it so much he said, “Finish that up. I want to hear the whole thing, and I want it on the show.”

MAKING MUSIC FOR GENERAL HOSPITAL

Gibbons and his parents took the next steps! “So now, all we needed was a female voice, because I thought that would fit the song well,” Patrick shared. “At the golf club we go to my parents were at a dinner. They liked the singer that was performing and spoke to her about the song, and she says she would like to bring it to her ‘boss’ who ended up being Eric Bazilian of the Hooters fame!” (Bazilian also wrote the smash hit song “One of Us” for Joan Osborne).

Next, “We went in the studio and recorded it and the song came together and it was beautiful. We loved it. They loved it at General Hospital and now they’re putting it the show and they are coming in with a piano, instead of a guitar. Paul Glass, the GH musical director, has been keeping us updated over the last six months of how it was coming along, and when it would air, and how GH put their own arrangement to it. I can’t wait to see and hear what they did with it.”

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PATRICK’S ONE LIFE TO LIVE FAMILY

Everyone knows that the One Life to Live extended family share a very tight bond, and Patrick said he does stay in touch with a few of his former One Life to Live co-stars, especially those from the Manning family! “I stayed in touch with Kassie DePaiva (ex-Blair) and sent her little videos here and there. She was like my second mom for five years. We keep in contact with Kristen Alderson (ex-Starr) over X the most, and she can’t believe how big I’ve gotten. Like, none of them can! (laughs). I also loved working with Roger Howarth (ex-Todd) and Trevor St. John (ex-Todd and Victor Jr.), and to me since I was so young, they were just my friends, ‘Roger and Trevor,’ not Todd Manning or Victor Jr.”

It was a trip to California and a visit to Port Charles that ultimately led to Gibbons second soap role of Wyatt Hoover. Patrick explains, “In 2016, Frank Valentini invited us out to Los Angeles to visit the set of General Hospital. I think he heard me say, ‘This is so much fun. I miss being on the set.’ He goes, ‘You should come out. I’ll bring you on the show. We can make you a character.'”

A few years later, Patrick’s dream became a reality! “Then, by the summer of 2018, I was playing Wyatt, the scout, and shared scenes with Wes Ramsey (Peter August), and the best was when I shared a scene with Roger Howarth and Michael Easton (ex-John, OLTL and ex-Silas, Finn et al, GH), it was like chemistry from the old days.”

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IT’S ALL IN THE NUMBERS

As to his future aspirations, it’s a career in the finance game that has piqued Gibbons’ real-life interest. But never say never to a return to acting. Patrick explained, “I’ve always enjoyed numbers. And on top of that, one of the biggest parts of finance is being personable and outgoing.”

He continued, “That’s one of the greatest skills I developed growing up. I really love the markets. I’m super interested. I’m never going to close the door to acting. I’m always open to that because I just love it so much. It’s such a great art.”

Take note! If there are any investment bankers or private equity folks among the GH faithful looking for a young analyst next year, Patrick’s DMs are open. You can find him on X at @PatrickJGibbons.

So, what did you think of the song sung by Trina on today’s GH that was written by Patrick J. Gibbons? Did you enjoy Patrick’s performances as One Life’s Sam and GH’s Wyatt? Would you like to see him back on GH at some point? Let us know via the comment section.

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