Y&R suffered in a huge way. It hasn’t had a stable regime in eight years. Now you have someone in charge that made huge mistakes on other shows before. But somehow Jill Farren Phelps still managed to get employed.
This is Bill Bell’s legacy we are talking about here. And while I was a fan of Angelica McDaniel in the beginning, it’s not the time to go completely silence while fans are concerned only to come out on protect Phelps in such an idiotic matter. Very disappointing and a sad day for all Y&R fans who thought that McDaniel was Y&R’s last hope.

Last but not least, while Passanante and Phelps haven’t worked together on GH, they share a past. Jean was an associate head writer from 1997 to 1998 on OLTL, while Phelps held the EP position. Just sayin’.

Y&R has Cynthia Watros and she is not playing Phyluss?? Yup this soap has gone mad

I hope that these new writers bring some balance to the storytelling on YR but I’m doubtful. The show seems all about one certain FOJ and that’s Steve Burton and his Dylan. I’d like to see tptb take an interest in telling the stories of all in GC. I think they should take a cur from the new GH about how to tell stories that include all characters.

I don’t know– it just seems sad to me that they are taking the lazy route to creating drama by killing off a child. Of course it will be heart wrenching how cannot not be— but that’s my point, in lapse of any real creativity– they go for some so base, so primal to our souls– that it almost smacks of manipulation as if daring the viewer not to cry over this one. It was a bad idea when they killed Cassie, and then Colleen– and I think in the long run this newest tragedy will be in the league as them. It is just so unimaginative — so unnecessary. And then using to that death to “cure” Connor blindness– even less inspired– I am sure many visually impaired viewers would have love a long term story on coping and living with blindness– that drama could have lasted years to come, but again pulling the same stunt they did with Colleen, using her death to save Victor– it’s been done— so I am not impressed or as optimistic as the head of Daytime on the team she’s got in place. Yet, I do applaud them using their time to worthy cause in real life—kudos for that.

I dont take much stock in what she says. I dont care who they bring in as long as they do stories as long as they dont have to rewrite history for a story to work. Or even just to make sense. And if anybody can make sharon better I’m for it. And stop dumbing down characters.

I must admit that the past two months on Y&R have vastly improved, especially in pacing and storytelling. I’m glad to hear that the writing regime will continue to focus on real relationships and family rather than making everybody miserable.

Honestly, and with all due respect for her highly-touted passion for daytime, she seems like part of the problem where Y&R is concerned. She appears to love publicity from ALL the red carpets she’s on (with the same handful of actors) to the recent prominence of all CBS Daytime in social media, including her personal twitter account where I’ve seen her applaud the ratings when they’re good, admonish Canadien viewers for “spoiling” predictable storylines when actors and others often provide more than enough clues for smart viewers to figure it out weeks ahead of air date, and explain that “they” like to save the budget for cast rather than a special song for Nikki & Victor’s wedding or to even occasionally see the characters’ pets (never mind a new pet was just added ).

But how much do all the new sets cost? Or all the new cast members? Was it necessary to replace the music and wardrobe people(guess “one big family” doesn’t apply to all). How about some real answers for once? Is she really proud of a show where rape is glossed over nearly once a week? Or one where women are minimized in their roles , both at home and in their careers? She’s the President of CBS Daytime, yet the show once known for its businesswomen is all about the boys. That isn’t ironic; it’s disgraceful, especially for someone who acknowledges that women make up their key demo.

And as far as her defense of Jill Farren Phelps. Exactly what was her last success as an EP? I won’t comment on the new writers until I’ve seen their work, but Ms. Phelps? Oh, I’m familiar with her. Too bad she doesn’t seem too familiar with Y&R. Yes, I may be harsh on both women, but I hold them to no higher standard than I hold myself. I think neither has an easy job, but good things are never easy, and great things are a hell of a lot harder, as I’m sure Bill Bell could attest to.

This is just spin and b.s., as far as I am concerned. The fact is these people AREN’T that good. If they were, generally speaking, they wouldn’t be going from one failure to the next. Folks, that is corporate and government America: a revolving door of people who know each other rewarding each other and protecting each other from the fallout of failure. Y&R is a rich legacy that was built from the ground up by Bill Bell but has been systematically destroyed by the last three show runners with three names each, coincidentally. The destruction of daytime’s crowning jewel is unforgivable. We’re almost to the point of no return with this show, but it’s not too late to let someone who understands Bill Bell’s legacy soap, its history, its characters, and can navigate this show out of these dark years, rebuild that legacy.

I think Angelica is good in many ways for CBS and certainly has done a lot on social media to promote her line up. However, in regards to Y&R, my concern with her is that she doesn’t seem to see why JFP is polarizing with the soap fan base. JFP has more than earned her reputation and her commitment to repeating past mistakes on each show she helms reeks of arrogance and ego. It didn’t work before so why do it again? I agree with the poster who said Delia’s upcoming death is manipulative. They currently have little going on with the show that has me riveted and this story ploy is exactly the kind of gimmicky crap JFP does to propel her stagnant shows. We just lost a 40 year veteran whose real life death should have propelled the show into a creative zenith. Instead in the weeks following this loss we’re saddled with a crappy murder mystery and child dying. Forgive my bluntness here but JFP knows crap about producing long term compelling character driven drama. Then implying Passanante and Altman were hired because they are “really good”, in spite of the fact that they both were head writers who saw their shows to cancellation, is absurd. I found her last answer dismissive to the fan base. In case she’s wondering, yes, we’re tired of mediocre talent ruining our soaps and killing them off. There are only 4 soaps left and seeing the same garage sale talent hired and promoted is baffling. We have our legitimate reasons for disliking those people who’ve had a hand in destroying the once mighty soap opera dynasty.

Elephant in the room? Angelica McDaniel should not be helming YR. She & JFP let Josh Griffith be the fall guy for their mess. The content, of the show, has suffered horribly under her care. I seem to remember her making similar statements about Josh not so long ago. So, who is lying here? CBS needs to leave her overseeing The Talk, & TPIR, these shows are her forté, but she is NOT a storyteller, & she needs to be relieved of her duties at YR.

When this story was first done on daytime in 1994 with Maxie and BJ, it worked on evey level for many reasons. First…it was written by the magnificent supremely talented Claire Labine. Second, it was something daring, shocking and new. Third..it involved beloved characters in whom the audience was deeply emotionally invested. Fourth it was written with heart and humanity. Since then, every soap has told some variation on this story. All My Children did it twice with Gillian/Laura and Kendall/Josh. Guiding Light did it twice as well. GH tried to replicate it only a few years ago withawful results. Every show has been so desperate to recapture the brilliance and he magic of that story and it cannot be done. It was lightning in a bottle. Now every subsequent child who gets killed just seems more gratuitous, violent, and unnecessary. These characters are not beloved long time good guys like Bobbie, Tony, Felicia, etc were on GH. Chelsea has not even ben on for 2 years and she has been shown as a liar and a con artist. Chloe is an impulsive ninny who gives horrible advice in the name of friendship and parenting. Billy and Victoria are the emotional anchor here…and this storyline darn well better have her get pregnant and let them have their own child. The show is featuring an awful lot of death all at once…Mrs. C, Carmine, Delia. I am sure this story will result in stellar acting, a boatload of Emmys, and get a lot of people talking. But I question the wisdom of this. Delia is a legacy character. They already needlessly killed an Abbott daughter in Colleen. When will soaps learn that viewers do NOT want constant misery and angst all the time? We have enough of that in our own lives.

It stinks! Jean has worked on CBS for years so I can see that, knowing what CBS’s soaps are about, but Shelly & Tracy is from ABC and YR is looking more like an ABC soap not the opulent CBS stunner it once carried. I’m sorry and no disrespect but Ms. McDaniel hasn’t a clue what YR viewers want to see having no background prior with YR, but I guess viewers need to just shut up because evidently they could care less about us. They had recycled stories from GH, Delia dying, Bill didn’t kill off children for sweeps. His was natural & organic with beats being played for sweeps, is why our eyes from the viewers was glued to the TV. JFP, Tracy, Shelly, Josh have been more plot driven the last 4 months. My heart aches.

“…the reason people are “friends of …” is because these people are really good at their jobs.”

Hogwash. What a load of self-serving crap. It’s exactly this kind of attitude that has brought ruin to corporations, governments, and yes, television shows as a whole and soaps in particular.

It amazes me how many people defend JFP. Never liked her when she was EP on GH. Then when I recently found out that she fired Anna Lee (Lila, GH) a week before she died. If I had any respect for her, I certainly lost it after finding that out. YR needs to do something and fast. Because if they keep her, well, things are going to get worse. She should never be an EP of soaps because all she does is destroy them.