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CASTING SHOCKER: GH dumps Drew Garrett brings in new Michael Corinthos!
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In a surprise twist that no one saw coming, the pivotal role of Michael Corinthos who is at the center of the current Claudia Zacchara murder trial on General Hospital has been recast, which means Drew Garrett is out! This official statement from a GH spokesperson went out this afternoon that stated, “We are recasting the role of Michael Corinthos Jr., the son of Sonny and Carly, with actor Chad Duell (Wizards of Waverly Place and Suite Life On Deck). His first airdate is Tuesday, April 20th.”
The statement goes on to say, “The continuing storyline will have viewers on the edge in the weeks leading up to May sweeps as Michael and his father frantically try to hide the truth that he murdered his stepmother Claudia. We want to thank Drew Garrett for his time with General Hospital and wish him well in all his future endeavors.”
Drew’s former co-star Steve Burton (Jason) tweeted the following when he found out about the casting change upon his return from some east coast personal appearances. “Worked today and heard bad the news about Drew. Sucks!Sucks!Sucks! My best to him. Drew’s a good kid who will land on his feet.”
See image of the new Michael, Chad Duell after the jump.
Chad Duell’s image is pictured here. So what do you think of the decision? Until Chad hits the airwaves it’s hard to tell, but something is definately going to be different. Could the show be planning a more dastardly Michael C.? Stay tuned.
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‘General Hospital’ SORAS’s Scout Cain and Casts Kayden Brenna Tokarski in the Role of Drew and Sam’s Daughter
In General Hospital casting news, none other than Scout Cain just grew up right before our eyes! In a case of SORAS (Soap Opera Rapid Aging Syndrome) the daughter of Drew Cain (Cameron Mathison) and the late Sam McCall (formerly played by Kelly Monaco) has been recast.
According to Soap Opera Digest, Kayden Brenna Tokarski takes over the role from Cosette Abinante who has played Scout since 2022. If you caught yesterday’s GH 16,000 episode on set cast celebration video, you may have witnessed Kayden at the festivities. The young actress will make her debut in July since GH tapes about six weeks ahead of air.
Taking to her Instagram on Tuesday, June 2, Kayden confirmed her casting by posting: “A DREAM COME TRUE. So honored to be joining the General Hospital family!! Biggest thanks to Mark Teschner (casting director, GH) and Frank Valentini (EP, GH) for giving me the opportunity of a lifetime to work on this iconic show.”
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The decision to make a sharp turn with the age of the character was for upcoming story purposes, and to open up Scout for more teenaged and young adult storylines; especially since Drew Cain is eventually going to come out of his locked-in state and perhaps Scout can go at war with Willow (Katelyn MacMullen) for what she did to her father? Stay tuned.
SCOUT CAIN READY FOR TEENAGE ROMANCE?
As General Hospital viewers know, Scout was born in 2017, which makes her about 9 before the SORAS occurred. Some rumors are circulating that a more teenaged Scout could become a love interest fo Finn Carr’s Rocco Falonceri? Previously, the two characters bonded over Sam’s death, since at the time Rocco’s father, Dante (Dominic Zamprogna) was engaged to Sam, and the two, along with Danny Morgan (Asher Antonyzyn), tried to stick together as “brothers and sister,” after her mom passed. But will that relationship dynamic change?
Tokarski who is 16, has an impressive acting resume which includes: Gaslit on Starz. Lifetime’s My Professor’s Deadly Secret, where she played Lauren the on-screen daughter of Passions and Y&R alum James Hyde (ex-Sam and ex-Jeremy Stark, respectively) character of John, and another Lifetime thriller, Killer in the Woods.
More recently, Kayden completed production on the indie thriller Quads & the Kicker, and can be seen in the upcoming Curse of Vandor starring Dee Wallace (ex-Pat Spencer, GH). The actress has also appeared in numerous national ad and branding campaigns including being featured opposite Joey Fantone in a Red Lobster commercial and voicing the part of “Wednesday Addams” in a Wendy’s commercial as a tie-in to the Netflix series Wednesday.
So, what do you think of General Hospital casting Kayden Brenna Tokarski as the new Scout Cain? Let us know your thoughts via the comment section below.
Monday, June 1, ABC’s General Hospital celebrated yet another milestone in their iconic history with the taping of their 16,000 which will air on July 13th. To mark the occasion the cast and crew took some time out to acknowledge the big day.
General Hospital’s Instagram and social accounts posted a video of the cast cavorting on the set where it was revealed that longtime favorites, Steve Burton and Finola Hughes are back in action and taping all-new episodes of the series in their signature roles of Jason Morgan and Anna Devane.
Today marked Steve Burton’s actual return date, while according to Soap Opera Digest, Finola Hughes has already been back for some time. As GH fans know, Steve went on an extended hiatus from the show in February, his last episode till now aired on March 25, but the two-time Daytime Emmy promised to be back in June and here he is.
THE WHEREABOUTS OF JASON AND ANNA
In story, Jason took the fall for Rocco Falconeri (Finn Carr) who shot WSB director Ross Cullum (Andrew Hawkes) who was attempting to kill Jason and Britt (Kelly Thiebaud). Now that Cullum has figured out Rocco is the one who shot him, Rocco fled Port Charles along with Britt and they remain MIA. Might they find Jason, while they are on the run?
As for Anna Devane, the character was last seen on-screen in February. Hughes was written out after Anna was kidnapped and given hallucinogens by Sidwell (Carlo Rota), Cullum and company believing that her nemesis Cesar Faison (Anders Hove) was alive. Eventually, a gaslighted Anna wound up at a mental health facility in France, tried to break free, and was captured again and put back in the facility.
Recently, Congresswoman Willow Cain (Katelyn MacMullen) helped ensure that the French authorities would drop any legal charges against Anna potentially paving the way for Anna’s return to Port Charles? We shall see!
Below you can check out the special video marking General Hospital’s 16,000 episode with the accompanying words, “There’s nothing like celebrating a milestone with family, friends, and cake to cure a case of the Mondays. 63 years and 16,000 episodes later, we’re still going strong thanks to all of you! Thank you so much for watching.”
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Today on June 1, General Hospital marked another milestone with the taping of their 16,000 episode. And along with that, came some very intriguing casting news when actor Dean Geyer was spotted in the social media video that made the rounds of the cast celebrating on set.
As it turns out, and according to TV Insider, Geyer has joined the cast of the ABC soap opera in the contract of role of … wait for it, Tristan Roberts. If you think it’s a nod to the late great Tristan Rogers who passed away on August 2025 and who played Robert Scorpio for decades you would be correct!
Tristan Rogers hailed from Australia, and Dean is also from Australia by way of South Africa. Geyer moved down under at 15. So, yes, “Tristan Roberts” will indeed have an authenticate Aussie accent.
GLEE AND NEIGHBOURS ALUM
GH isn’t the first soap Geyer has appeared on having played the role of struggling musician Ty Harper on the long-running Australian soap opera Neighbours from 2008-2029
Dean may look very familiar to primetime fans having appeared in some major television shows including: Terra Nova as Mark Reynolds, Glee as Brody Weston, Zoey 1o2 as Todd, plus 9-1-1 as Zane Williams.
The talented Geyer is also a singer/songwriter having appeared on season 4 of Australian Idol, where he came in third. In 2007, Dean released his album titled Rush.
Look for the 16,000 episode to air on July 13 since General Hospital tapes approximately six weeks ahead of air.
You can check out the music video for Geyer’s track, “If You Don’t Mean It” released in 2007 below.
As well, look below for the video that surfaced today where General Hospital shared on their latest milestone, “There’s nothing like celebrating a milestone with friends, family, and cake to cure a case of the Mondays. 63 years and 16,000 episodes later, we’re still going strong thanks to all of you! 🎂 Thank you so much for watching.”
So, what do you think about the casting of Dean Geyer in the role of Tristan Roberts and the nod to the beloved Tristan Rogers? Who could be Tristan’s love interest when he gets to Port Charles? Weigh-in via the comment section below.
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What now? Why is GH doing this? I tthink Drew is doing a very commendable job. They ought to be concerned about the Cassadine baby switch. And haven’t we had enough of Helena and her machinations over the years. It ‘s so obvious every time they bring her back that evil will be apparent. I’m getting tired of it all. Boring……
Here I finally start watching GH again and they disappoint me by replacing one of my fav characters. This new guy won’t be the true michael….
Well, the Michael you say you have gotten so use to has only been on for less than 1 year! Guess we will get us to this one too.
Deb E we bonded with Drew in this one year and no won will ever take his place!
please sign this petition to get drew garett and aaron back on as michael & morgan on general hospital!!! and spread the word!!!!
https://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/keepdrewandaarononGH
The whole Helena thing is the worst! I am sick of Helena too. And I am tired of Lucky being in the dark ALL the time! This new Helena plot is boring and I hope Lucky finds out about the paternity way before the new baby is born!
This new guy will never be as good as Drew. Drew had good chemistry with all of the other characters. This new guy looks high off his horse. Drew played a good Michael and I’m dissapointed that they re casted.
Holly your right. I will never watch GH untill DREW comes back!!!!!! Thanks everyone!! Bring Drew Back.
They do not want the young people to watch (or why would they get rid of our young James Dean??) So we wont untill Drew Garrett comes back.
i totaly agree drew made a great michael the new guy sucks he is a disney channel star he is not cut out for soap oprah work.
Me too and helena i what her gone I don’t like her anymore
I am very very upset that GH is getting rid of an excellent young actor who could grow with the show over the years. Everyone thinks he is doing an excellent job. He is up for an award and how very sad for him to be doing such a great job and to be canned for some kid from Disney. This really stinks in many ways. I am just very sad that he will not be on Gh anymore. There is no reason to recast someone who is perfect for the role.
WE WANT DREW GARRETT BACK AS MICHAEL AND WE WILL NEVER STOP!!! BUT WE HAVE STOPPED WATCHING GENERAL HOSPITAL!!!!!!!!
he is leaving no one tell me that not good
GH is on its downward spiral and has been for some time. Guza, Phelps, and Frons have created a one trick pony with the monster they created in Sonny. The enitre show revolves around one character and his many illegitimate offspring, Boring. They have ditched the history of the show and the characters the fans have grown with over decades in favor of revolving door plots and characters. Its by far the worst daytime show on and laughable at times. This current GH does not hold a candle to the innovative history making program it once was, what a waste to have all that history to work with and to destroy this once great show.
Could not have said it better myself!!! All my favorite characters of the 80’s and 90’s have been killed off or had their characters destroyed!
OMG Ive watched G.H since I was 8 I know all about history. If its such a terrible show how did you even find this bored to post your poor excuse of a comment on. Most of the people of the past have moved on to do bigger and better things and I cant think of many of those people who havent been back over the years to pay there respects. So Tom if its such a bad show its won alot of emmys more then any other soap
The premise of soap operas is about relationships and families. Due to the length of time these shows run 40-50 years producers and writers honor the characters and viewers by their long time viewership. Some actors have moved on, most have been pushed out. The Young and The Restless is a wonderful example of a show that has honored its audience by keeping long time characters around and giving them front burner stories. When Guza and Phelps came into GH they destroyed the history of the show, destroyed long time characters and changed what had been a show of great history and story telling. Most of the emmys you speak of were not won during the tenure of this writing and production team, but was the accomplishment of others. The show is now a selfish vision of a writer that doesnt have the talent to write a relationship/character driven story, its all about bad gimicks and I dont feel the front burner characters on today show any positive attributes that the viewers want to route for. The name of the game is ratings and all the proof I need as to how bad this show has become can be reflected in the number of people tuning in to watch. So Heather thanks for your opinion but its really not a valid response
that is interseting story
I’ve been waiting for this! Great news. He’s a terrible actor! Has been from the very start. Now, please get rid of that stupid Spinelli. Now that is the worst acting! I’m so very happy for this change. Anybody will be better than Drew Garrett. What a loser.
seriously? you don’t like him so he’s a loser? hmmmm
uhm no drew garrett is THE BEST ACTOR OF OUR GENERATION YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.. THERE ARE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE WHO DISAGREE WITH YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WELL NOW YOU HAVE TWO FREAKEN SPINELLI’S BECAUSE THE NEW MICHAEL LOOKS LIKE SPINELLI POPPED OUT A FREAKEN BABY!
100% with Jesln. How many people have started to watch General Hospital becouse of Chad maybe his family? How many people have stopped watching becouse of Chad thousands & thousands. DO THE MATH.
I LOVE Spinelli… He makes me laugh and cry!!!
I think Drew Garrett is a really good actor, but as you know when a charcter on GH has a serious personality change the actor sometimes has to change too. Could anyone really be able to imagine Tamara Braun as Carly Jax? I know i would have been pissed had they kept her as Carly. She was the best Carly Corinthos but I dont think she would have been convincing as the wife of Jasper Jax. Maybe later on Drew Garrett will be back maybe not but he will have a good career reguardless i’m sure.
OH and one more thing… haha Synthia Hernandez says: he’s a loser… thats not cool man… who are you?? Dont be mad cause you’re thinking about him and he’s not thinking about you. Drew do your thing man… don’t sweat the haters k =)
I totally agree w/ you. Calling Drew Garrett a loser b/c she dislikes his acting is pretty silly.
That sucks!! I like Drew as Michael! He has been doing an amazing job, and for GH to recast him is just ridiculous! He even looks like a younger version of Jason! Bad move GH, bad move! Shame on you!
I still can’t get over the fact that they replaced the old Michael (the red-head). And now this. I really like this one…….as I did the other one. I wish they would quit messing around!
I DID NOT WATCH GH ALL LAST WEEK WITHOUT DREW AND WILL NEVER WATCH AGAIN
This is very sad news Drew is Michael i cant picture anyone else in the role plus hes really good he reminds me of a younger JOnathan jackson i am just shocked, what shocked me even more was when i called to complain at GH they hung up on me! I think GH just lost my neilson point why should i watch their show they obviously dont care what i think
This is a shock.What is GH doing!! This kid is a great actor. He took over a hard role, being aged. A lot of viewers loved the Michael b4 him. He came in and won us over. At times stealing the scenes. With summer coming up, and teens being out od school you think they would want to keep one of the best teen actors they have around. Dumb move GH!
I hate that they are replacing Drew as Michael. He does not look preppy as I have read in some blurbs. He looks more edgy and more like a Corinthos than this Chad kid. Chad is the one with chipmunk cheeks and looks very “high school musical” to me. Definitely a BIG mistake GH. I like Morgan too, but I understand it was HIS choice to pursue other roles. Back to Michael. Drew/Michael has a repore with all of the other actors/characters and is VERY believeable as Michael. I was sorry to see Dylan Cash go as the original Michael. He was actually very believable also – especially when he started to get all gangster like his dad in his dark long coat. If GH could have held out for a while longer to give him time to mature…he would have been very good to keep the role. They wanted to age Michael and Drew was an excellent choice. Michael is NOT aging now – so what is with this GH. Boo-hiss!!!! Just my 2 cents.
Wow! Do I agree! One thing though…Dylan Cash was ok as a young actor but was totally unbelievable as a Mobster’s son wanting to carry on in the family business. He was always a poor actor in myu opinion except for the times he was the protective older brother. When Drew first came on I wasn’t sure where they were going with such a massive change in looks and style, but my God, it only took a few episodes and I was hooked! The vehemous way he plays the Mobster’s son os amazing! The onlt other roles in the 33 years I have watched this show that were as great are the fitting change of Carly-shocking at first- and the wonderful casting of Dominic-a perfect fit from day 1! Drew even looks like Carly (unlike the chubby cheeked, short redhead) with the tall, slim build and the facial features. He sooo acts like her when they each get on their “high horses” too! This Chad is already soooo unbelievable- I KNOW he killed Claudia and even I didn’t believe him when he took the blame and tried to convince Dominic. Possibly a good actor for a supporting role, but absolutely horrible in an “adult” lead role. Another poor choice (as is the Helena repeat crap again) for a storyline that is bound to chase off viewers. I now watch less than half the show at a time.
COME ON! drew is the best michael! That other kid could barely act on Wizards he is a fruit loop. He sucks at acting bring drew back. I think i may be done watching my favorite soap now cause this stupid MISTAKE!
I totally agree! Whoever made this decision was not thinking about the people who are actually WATCHING the show. Dumb, Dumb, dumb!
Drew Garrett was wonderful as Michael, but as usual the writers are writing Sonny and GH as the Sopranos…Why would they not want an actor to go from his teens on as did Jason, Emily, Robin , Elizabeth and Lucky for the next Generation…The soap was better under Wendy Riche…God bless her…Sonny continues to be out of control and why the veneration of Luke for God’s sake!!!! Except for his “My Way” facing death gig, he’s the same old, same old…Hope the writers stop writing like wanna-be gangsters and get Sonny back to someone with redeeming qualities…Jason sacrificing himself yet again shows Sonny’s selfishness continues unabated…If Jason goes off the show, I will not watch General Hospital and break a 45 year love of the show…If Jason is taking a break for awhile to pursue his private business and then return, I’ll hang on. I feel that Domenic and Drew and Olivia are the greatest additions to the show in years…Oh, and could you lose the actress and role of Lisa…She is so not up to Robin and Patrick et al……….
Why would you lose such a great actor, please do someting abc, my daughter and I want him back
This is probably the stupidest character switch you all have ever done!!! Drew Garrett played the role of Michael so well and he was a perfect match as far as his appearance and his attitude. This new guy is a Disney Channel actor….how the hell is he gonna play the role of a Mob Bosses Son! Not smart casting director! Bring Drew Garrett back! I don’t even want to watch the new Michael.
Ive watched 10 min of the new one and i hate it…Drew was 1000000% better…i dont think im such a big fan of the show anymore..never mind the fact that the Drew was a lot cuter then chad
I don’t know why they would “dump” Drew. I thought it was dumb to change him from Michael Cash, but Drew did a fantastic job. And now that we all love him they go and do something stupid like that. BUT, that is not the only stupid thing they have done this month. Instead of letting Keifer get his “Just desserts” you killed him off. It needed to be shown that just because his parents thought he was the greatest son, he wasn’t and needed to be punished for what he did to Christina. Thank you for your time.
Totally agree! I loved Dylan Cash as Michael, wasn’t sure if I would like the aged Micheal but Drew Garrett was on point. He held his own against Laura Wright, Maurice Bernard, and Steve Burton. And that is impressive for someone so young because they are all superb actors. And the repoire with Kristina, Morgan, and Molly was excellent. I was really starting to love these kids as the next generation of GH. I watched the newest Michael the last two days and I just don’t think he has it. And I really think GH messed up even more by not letting Drew finish this current killing Claudia storyline. This was his story and Drew should have been allowed to conclude it. I didn’t feel anything when the Chad guy was telling Dante about killing Claudia. He is just not right for this storyline. I don’t want to have to watch someone grow into a role when there was already an excellent young actor who doing great in this storyline. I am not buying him as Michael Corinthos.
I couldn’t have said it better myself! This is what I was trying to say when I posted, but you definitely stated it clearer. I was equally impressed with Drew’s performance in all scenes with the other already established actors/actresses, but he was exactly “on” for the role and the position that Michael is now in. I was so happy they aged him and brought in a more mature actor to play a much moodier and deeper Michael, but now we are right back where we started with Disney Chad. I don’t buy it either!
Very dissapointed!!! Drew Garrett nailed the role. Michael is Jason’s biological nephew and he looks just like the younger version of Jason. Not only was he perfect because of the resemblance…he played the role just like an edgy mobster’s son…I love Drew Garrett…PLEASE BRING HIM BACK. I’ve been a GH viewer for 30 plus years and I have to say this is one of my most dissapointing character changes.
Does anyone know why they recast Drew’ srole, I think he was an excellent actor and I have been watching GH ever since I was a little girl, sad to think I will have to stop now, I watched today and the new actor is completely opposite of the persona Drew portrayed……GH lost a fan due to this recast….I have stuck with them through all of them except this one.
they should keep Drew Garrett as Michael Corrinthos Jr, they need to stop changing him. I was finally getting used to the new Michael, Drew Garrett played a good Michael and they should keep him..
This is uif worst change ever this new guy chad sucks looks like a pretty boy
What are they thinking?!!! Drew Garrett does an amazing job as Michael don’t understand why he would be replaced. New guy will be hard to be believable in the middle of the story crisis right now. Big shoes to fill & looks way too innocent to be a bad boy!!
OMG!!!!!! WHAT THE HELL GH??? WHAT WERE U THINKING??? BRING BACK DREW GARRETT PLEEEEASE!!!!!! HE WAS PERFECT FOR THE ROLE AS MICHAEL CORINTHOS……THIS NEW GUY IS SOOOOOOO BAD. GIVE HIM A DIFFERENT ROLE I’M SURE HE’D BE GOOD, BUT NOT AS MICHAEL. DO U EVEN CARE ABOUT YOUR FANS???? IF U DO….RESOLVE YOUR ISSUES WITH DREW….SUCK IT UP…..AND BRING HIM BACK!!!!!!!!!!
Just one more voice that wants to be heard whether they listen or not…
Drew Garrett was the first believable male child actor this show had shown us. (Great job with Christina and Molly). The redheaded, chubby gifted, preppy Michael never fit the role, but the change to Drew was amazing and then back to another child-like “sweet” actor has once again killed the role. I will NEVER believe this kid could play the role as a “bad ass” Mobster’s son yet as a loving family man- hte same way you would have us believe Sonny and Jason have been all these years.
I think it sucks I really enjoyed Drew playing the part. It was finally a good match plus he had the edge. Just what we need playing the mob boss son disney boy. Come on is it to late to get Drew back?
Let Drew Garrett go was a bone-headed move! The powers-that-be need to get their heads out of the collective asses, admit they made a mistake and bring Drew back!
I swear Im this close to saying the hell with G.h. Why do soaps do dumb stuff? You got it right the first time with Drew get him back. Im over it and Lulu has turned into a bioth
I have not watched in almost 2 months. Why lose all these people for your pride! Just say you were wrong and bring Drew back! if you owe Chad money the fans will sent you 20$ or more you will make money! I spend that much a week calling you asking for Drew. first thing in the morning im calling again! we want Drew………..
Totally agree. This new Michael was quite a shocker. he looks looks too old to even be believable as Carly’s son. Short & chubby, too. I agree with Sheilah about killing off Kiefer. It would’ve been so much better for him to have been repremanded for domestic violence and teach a lesson to the young viewers that violence is not okay & needs to stop. but NO. Instead GH kills him off. Stupid move, stupid message. Two stupid decisions airing in the same month. Changing the role of Michael and killing off Kiefer. Way to go GH.
Bye bye Drew.
We barely knew Yew.
Your acting was Pew.
You had no clew.
Acting you couldn’t dew.
And so out we threw.
You know what to dew.
Go Eff Yew!
My guess is Micheal Eisner head of abc was stuck with Chad under a former contract. so decided to can Drew to save money and use this kid who was not working. Thats how it works at abc and disney
I am not happy at all with Chad a Michael. I can’t stand to watch GH now so I have moved to another Soap until they rehire Drew back as Michael. It makes me sick when they change characters for no reason. He was an excellent young actor and I can see him as Michael for years to come. What a shame. They lost me over it.