Thank you, Patrick….even though I realize this is all just “make-believe,” there still remain limits as to what constitutes the realms of good taste, as well as basic human decency….and for me, that line was once again crossed on GH. (As always, it was a treat to hear from you in your own inimitable literary fashion….please keep those wildly-creative streams-of-consciousness regarding Port Charles coming our way! They are such a joy to behold….)

I agree hunt.

A soap takes the best and worst of society and heightens it. The whole contrast
of good vs evil is why we root for the characters that we do. (Or in this case evil vs evil…though I love them both).

I was effected by the death of Jake and I wish they hadn’t killed him off. Similarly I was sad that Danny was sick. But these things happen in life…it’s gut-wrenching in reality and in fiction.

But thankfully Danny has a happy outcome…Maxie was given a heart (in her childhood heart problems) and so on.

Ava getting hers is long overdue. She’s taunted, tortured and murdered. I have no problem with revenge coming at her in all directions…it makes for great drama and ties in a lot of characters.

I must say on this i’m not sure if the writers think having a Corinthos/Jerome child will make a better story…or killing off the unborn child would…not knowing is one of the reasons I keep comin’ back!

“…along with the many talented thesps who portray Dr. O., Madeline, Silas, Franco, Heather, Anna, and especially the magnificent Billy Miller as nuJason….there have been too numerous to mention top-notch performances as of late. The only place I part company with perennial posters here is regarding Nina…..I cannot abide the character nor her portrayal by MS….it has all the delicacy and finesse of a bull in a china shop, and the oft-repeated rotation of acting affectations is simply ”

Bravo… hands down… reading is a treat…. yours does this

Nina : I’m relaxing on her , act… finally… GH production seems to be steering away from Silas and Sam… and are culminating in Nina psychotic behaviours

and that’s OK for her fans…

it’s extreme… and like you… i’m waiting an intervention… that Franco/ Madeleine/Aunt Leisl CAN

20 years without… and a love that permeated your senses…. wow.. how good is that…

a complete breakdown…. a relapse… an unhinged… a loss penetration….

TEARS

will MS’ Nina… breakthrough… of course she will… Fans delight in her persona

a full on human trait is what she embodies… gusto… relished delight for the audience to invite intrigue

whet the appetite… our senses are piqued : Michelle Stafford

be it Phyllis or Nina…. she’s finally bearing in and on

it’s time for a sensitive moment… therein rests Nina resistance… Franco/Madeleine/Aunt Leisl and

Harry! You haven’t!!!???? Blasphemy!!!!

I finally caught a show. Yes, Franco was great fun. Anyone who can make Carly look like a horse’s ass is okay in my book.
Shay, I don’t get the feeling anyone can call you humor challenged, nor am I ever accused of suffering from the same malady. However, watching Reptile Woman threaten Ava with the needle displeased me. Meanwhile, Nick Tortelli, er, I mean Sonny, is telling his son Morgan that he is “gonna take Ava out” after she gives birth to his baby. ( I assume Sonny doesn’t mean take Ava out to a dinner and a movie.) Instead of recoiling from his father in moral horror, Morgan basically says,”Gee, Dad, That’s a swell idea.” Wasn’t Morgan in love with this woman once upon a time?
Yes, I understand this is supposed to be good, campy, comic book fun but as a former comic book junkie, I can tell you that I never once ran across a story in which the Joker was plotting to kill Catwoman after she gave birth to his kittens. Nor did I see the Riddler ever plot to kill her unborn child.
Call me a cantankerous, joyless, humorless old grouch, but the plotting against mother and unborn child just feels unseemly to me.
The rest is all good fun.

@su0000….I must respectfully disagree with your assertion that I overthink GH ….as a matter of fact, the reaction I described was totally visceral, which is actually the exact opposite of consciously making a judgment about something which simply naturally repels one. (Kind of like that “Crypt Tryst” which we so widely discussed some months back…..) It’s not a choice….it just is. Furthermore, I don’t dissect “everything” about GH…..quite frankly, I ignore much of what transpires until something particularly riveting or revolting enough upon which to comment comes along…that can mean a little or a lot depending upon the vicissitudes of the program….for me, it’s either feast or famine when it refers to this show. Still, I’m glad that you—as well as many others—are so obviously enchanted and enthralled by all the “great fiction(al)” Port Charles happenings!!!! Also, thank you for taking the time to respond to my thoughts…especially since you pointed out that you cared not about what I wrote. ; )

And a “BRAVA” right back at ya, CeeCee!!! You have just returned to your hectic schedule and yet you took the time to post such a gracious reply to little ole me ….well, “molte grazie, amica mia!” (I’m touched!) I guess we both hail from a “different planet” because that cunning, cold-blooded child-clutching caper of Nina’s is waaay too far out there for me, too…..most certainly too uncivilized to be considered entertaining in any manner of the word. It’s deplorable and disgusting in its depth of depravity, and today’s episode did little to change my convictions regarding that subject. I found it to be just as wince-inducing and stomach-churning as that served up on Monday’s menu. I won’t get more specific until you have the chance to view the most recent show, but suffice to say I was hoping that Silas and Nathan would arrive to save the day by kicking down the door and putting a bullet in Nina, as I think death is the only means by which to permanently vanquish those demons that darken her sickened soul, whatever their origins. Alas, that did not happen, but I truly pray that the life of this most innocent of infants is not long imperiled by the perturbing presence of this monomaniacal madwoman.

sigh. birthing…not bithin’…not bitchin’…

Hello again, CeeCee!!! Welcome to the weekend…..I guess you survived your return to the halls of academe? Do tell….was it tough to kick the “daytime viewing habit?” (Hey, just had to ask…..LOL.) Concerning your assertion that Port Charles “harvests psychos,” well, yeah, it always has, but historically we were normally treated to no more than one to two per season….now they convivially concur and congregate with alarming frequency at the hands of Ron C. And speaking of the “unbalanced,” (to put it kindly….) I absolutely agree with you that Nina went overboard, but then for me, that’s nothing new….I continue to be extremely underwhelmed with the off-the-chart contrivances and heavy-handed hamminess employed by MS to convey her character’s heights of hysteria….LaNina is simply not in any way, shape or form to my liking—I know, I know…we part company on this integral issue, CeeCee!—but the sight of that corrosive crackpot cloyingly clutching and cradling Ava’s precious bundle made me completely queasy…as all the while the calm, cool and collected Madeline just stood by and took it all in!!! My my, I pray that bedazzling blonde beauty of a barracuda has something up her soigne’ sleeve (or in her bichen black Birkin Bag of tricks….) to finally put an end to this annoying Nina-esque nonsense once and for all….if ever there were a doubt that her daughter was deeply disturbed and defective from day one, there shouldn’t be any longer. (Magda….and Mutta!….were right on the mark regarding the maniacal Mrs. Clay!!!!) However I would be remiss if I didn’t offer high praise to MW….while her typically vicious, avaricious Ava seldom appeals to my senses, she truly gave a pitch-perfect performance filled with restraint, nuance and finesse….no overly dramatic scenery-chewing for Ms. Jerome this time around, just a subtlety and grace under pressure that demonstrated even the most self-serving and sinister of she-devils can be motivated by maternal instincts. Although it certainly didn’t make me an apologist for all the appalling acts attributed to this highfalutin hitwoman, it did allow me to regard her as human for the first time and champion her efforts to not only reclaim her child, but exact revenge for that loathsome lunatic’s inexcusable indignities that were imposed upon this mother-to-be and her newborn….and oh yes, “Baby Corinthos” was rather bouncing in birth weight given her premature status, yet I found myself immensely relieved that she emerged as a real…albeit rather full-term….infant and not that grotesque “rubberino bambino” that I had feared would be making an encore appearance! In terms of the “Kiki Revelation,” I am about as weary of waiting for that as “Fluke’s” real identity to be unveiled……I am eagerly anticipating that both bombshells should be shortly forthcoming? As for my “Italian,” I am not conversant in the language, just an interested admirer of it….I actually took French in college— over a year’s worth during a single summer quarter, hence, not enough for my taste remained on the brain—but I am entirely enchanted by these most romantic of the romance languages, and regularly watch Mhz International television programs from both France and Italy (with English subtitles) where I tend to quickly pick up on words and phrases. Also, a bit before you joined the MF ranks, we had a most delightful East Coast poster who went by FAS (aka “Alina”)….she was much like yourself in wit and intellect…..extremely well-spoken, too. We hit it off and spent many a thread debating and discussing our in-depth analyses of all things related to Port Charles. Alas, this brilliant lass (of Italian extraction…) departed to Milan for med school some months back, and she is still sorely missed. Long story short, I often peppered our “conversations” with expressions in “Italiano” and it made for some wonderful back and forth. Following her absence, FAS’s gracious grandmother “Nonna” briefly joined us, too, before she summered on the Amalfi Coast, I believe it was? Now that autumn is upon us, I often wonder how she and her gregarious granddaughter are faring. Therefore, if either of them stumble onto this particular post, “Ciao! Come sta? Mi manchi molto! Non ti santo da una vita!

Oh honey,,,, theres not enough meds to make Nina even half way normal….
It really doesnt matter to me about the emotional revenge or what,, this side of Franko is just enough,, , hopefully they will dial him back ,,, the sooner,, the better
Oh lord,,,, if I hear ” I lost 20 years of my life “,,, one more time,,, im gonna hurl!!!! Really??? Kinda overkill to me,,,
There is just too much insanity going on for the Nov sweeps,,, not a fan of the complete disgusting way Avas baby was brought into the world,,,,, I just hope there isnt any crazy ass people out there thinking this is a way to get a baby,,, , think about it,,, people are flipping NUTS!! For a person who has had 3 miscarriages, , this was beyond disturbing

Oh yes, rebecca1, I do recall James Franco’s stint on GH….it put me off the show for at least a good year or more. I couldn’t bear to watch his cold-blooded barbarism either, so at least I’m consistent! Hence, even while I get RoHo’s Franco is supposed to be one and the same character portrayed by the original actor, he is now infused with much less darkness and evil, and more mirth and merriment, which is why he works for me when the former incarnation did not.. That difference also explains the reason that some of the crazies that plague Port Charles bother me to a much lesser extent than others. They are so broadly played with campy humor in far-fetched plots that there is nothing remotely literal about them….think Dr. O., Faison, the Cassadines, Jerry Jacks, even Heather…their foibles and farces are so fantastical that only the most mentally unbalanced amongst us could take their antics seriously. Those are the ones I can laugh along with and for the most part, enjoy….but reprobates like Nina, Ava, Sonny, Carly, Carlos, et al, are less palatable and tolerable to me because there are true-life counterparts to these characters out in our present-day world, and their deplorable deeds tend to reflect reality, even if they are depicted in a soapy, over-the-top fashion. In defending the presentation of such miscreants, you have previously made mention of “Misery” and other popular movie or television choices that also have featured extremely violent and/or disturbing storylines, and I agree, yes, they are out there and some people derive pleasure by watching them, but in doing so, they are purposely seeking out this particular form of gore and grossly inappropriate actions in said entertainment vehicles …they want to see exactly that. However, when those of us follow a particular soap opera, that is an entirely different matter. Many grew up viewing these programs and while there have been some pretty memorable moments of bad behavior in every show’s history, they have also been quite decently balanced with themes of romance, mystery, and touching family drama which have been part of our everyday lives for year upon year….most long-time fans did not sign up for the sort of debauchery and depravity that we now regularly seem to witness on GH. That distasteful content is precisely what I find troubling when it comes to the current Nina escapades and other recent examples of offensive offerings.

Uh, the baseball season is over. Besides, there was much more exciting and compelling action at this thread over the past weekend than any sporting event I could ever name. Epic. Catfight!!!! My sincere compliments to both of you ladies (aka, rebecca1 and CeeCee)….you each really held your own….I was riveted!!!! And I say that with true affection….. ; )

If you remember Shay…James Franco’s Franco was as depraved as Nina…that was one twisted tale. But…I liked it! I don’t think Nina’s storyline has been “an affront to ANYONE with a modicum of human decency.” I think a lot of us have cringed and still enjoyed the intensity/pathos of the drama. Reactions are subjective just like anything in life, be it to a work of fiction or art or something experienced in reality. While no one would approve or applaud Nina’s actions, there are those of us who think her psychotic break is the culmination of everything she’s been through and a natural progression from when we were first introduced to her. Doesn’t mean we, the viewers who aren’t so morally outraged don’t think the entire thing is barbaric and abhorrent. It is. But it does mean we take it for what it is… a story about a deranged woman and a mob moll and their inevitable conclusion.