General Hospital
General Hospital's Michelle Stafford Delivers Bravura Performance As Nina's Schemes Catch Up With Her!
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Did fans of General Hospital just watch Michelle Stafford’s 2014 Daytime Emmy reel on today’s episode?
Now while it’s a bit premature to predict that annual race, or who might choose what scenes for contention, Stafford’s performance ran the gamut of emotions and if edited together to show the range of her acting in one episode … this could be a strong possibility!
In story, Nina Clay is turning out to be totally certifiable! After being confronted by Silas (Michael Easton) for all of her schemes and lies to break up his relationship to Sam (Kelly Monaco), she admits to them! Thank God ,Silas finally let Nina have it for her horrific deeds!
Later, as she tries to say that her caregiver Rosalie (Linda Elena Tovar) suggested she fake paralysis to get Silas back and to hold on to her husband and more, Silas can’t listen to it her one more second. However, one minute Nina is shedding tears for losing her husband, and being put in a coma by her mother for 20 years, and in another, she is screaming at her husband for how much she loathes him for having an affair with Ava Jerome (Maura West) and that she had his baby… Kiki (Kristen Alderson)!
Nina later confesses it was she that destroyed and ransacked Silas’ apartment many months ago, not Madeline (Donna Mills)! She even gets caught about her “revenge list”, and while at times she rationalizes her actions, at other times she is so angry, other times vindictive and cruel, and yet other times plain scary, to other times showing signs of deep pain! After Silas figures out that Nina is not playing with a full deck, he suggests they go to couple’s counseling to which she looks like she is about to kill Silas for the near mention of that!
Major kudos to Michelle Stafford on this one folks! Who else could play the roller-coaster of emotions in what is turning out to be one hell of twisted character!
Now, let us know what did you think of Michelle’s performance on today’s GH?
michele is killing it in every scene she is in and i just love Rosalie, she should be up to a contract player, she’s just as great as michelle.
I agree…they are both phenomenal. So glad Michelle is on GH
she is incredible … and so in shape. tall lovely redhead woman. i wish i can stay that slim, tall long legs tone arms,her face hair just gorgeous imo,natural beauty.
lil make up on at times,only bring out her beauty more.late forties she look great. but i am getting sick of NINA using the death of her child,allegedly caused by her own mother,she keep bringing this up etc. just tired of it now. and i want silas free of her.
Michelle Stafford rocks that role. The scene you are talking about was intense as she ran the gamut of emotions. It was an incredible scene….and as far as Rosalie goes, together they are magic. Keep going!
The scenes with Nina and Rosalie are really magic. They bring out the best in each other. Also don’t overlook the range of well played emotions Nina went through early in her return, very convincing. A very accomplished and complete actress.
Love Rosalie!
It’s weird that a character so clearly wacko can still engender some sympathy. And, I like how Nina’s scenes contrasted with Madeline revealing some of her backstory so the audience could hear different sides of her history. If we’d only heard Madeline’s side, there would still be doubt because viewers would think she’s just trying to push Nina aside for the money. But, when you see Nina cracking, we know there is actual truth in Madeline’s story. The episode was so well-structured, btw them, Sabrina, Franco, Carly & Sonny. GH is on FIRE now, with so many characters adding their own sizzle to a growing bonfire! LOVE IT!
About that, Kansas. At least Nina is mentally ill, I will concede that…but, brought about by her mother.
Sonny is straight out evil. I just can’t get over how someone can plan another human being’s death as if he were making a grocery list. Seriously, who’s the sick one????!!!!!
You’re right…GH is HOT, HOT, HOT right now.
Yes, Kansas. Nina did scream out an angry and resentful admonishment to Maddie about (when a child) sending Nina upstairs to her room with the nanny while she (Maddie) drank champagne downstairs. Was Nina suggesting that Maddie went around the block a few times with a variety of men? Or was Nina suggesting that Maddie was/is a drunk?….once an alkie, always an alkie.
You are so right; through her angry and desperate ranting and raving Nina is reliving, rehashing and REVEALING her childhood with a despicable mother. JMO…..No wonder she lost it then and now.
So much more is left to tell. Can’t wait !!
I like Rosalie, too-I think she is very funny and I do enjoy her scenes with Michelle.
Michelle is wonderful!! I get real upset if she is not on the program for even one day. She can sure shift her emotions fast. I wonder what she has to draw on to be able to do that so well. I can’t get that nuts even when I am really pissed.
And then are people like myself, Darlene, who cannot abide this obnoxious, odious character and breathe a huge sigh of relief when we have a day blessedly free of her! To each his/her own…..
Totally confused. Yesterday there were many posts disagreeing that MS and Nina are all of that, but they’re gone. Why is that? I have a lot of friends that think this is horrible acting, and a creepy character.
Margie, with all due respect, your friends are entitled to their opinion……ergo the reason for this site….TO OPINE, as I annoyingly and constantly repeat. LOL
I am beginning to sound like Su….this is ” the stuff GH is made of “. Then again, I enjoy every scene Michelle is in….no matter what…LOL
Lawd!!!! Where are the people dressed in white with the straight-jacket when you need them the most?
Michelle Stafford is a whirlwind of talent..
She can take it in every direction with perfection!!
I love how her character is developing..
there are so many more changes to come, can’t wait for the end project..
She is in so much mental and heartache pain..
She is confused how to deal with a world that has passed her by for two decades..
A horrific loss..
I feel her pain and can see how she is full of revenge.. it is logical.
But- she will not always be as she is now.. Love Michelle Stafford !!
Love how ME/Silas woke up and also gave a great performance, he knocked it put of the park!! (applause..
I like Nina with both Silas and Franco!!
It is hard to look away when Michelle is on screen, like her character or not.
You know, Mark, you’ve summed up Nina’s character accurately. MS is so good, we can’t help but be enthralled with a wackadoodle. She makes Nina real instead of cartoonish. This is how core characters are built – great acting.
they had to go and make another Heather Webber out of her. What’s left for the character, a brain tumor?
I do not think you are grasping the hidden story, curacaoman. No tumor…just a lifetime of heartache. No Heather Webber either…no comparison whatsoever, sir. What you are gleaning is human emotion —full-force from a woman whose brain has been imprisoned for two decades….she needs to catch up, physically, mentally and emotionally.
As Su said….this is NOT the real Nina…get ready to be treated to a kaleidoscope of talent from none other than Michelle Stafford.
It’s a kaleidoscope of something, alright.
harry….do I detect some levity here? I do appreciate facetiousness ,when tastefully said , as much as the next person. But, I do not appreciate sarcasm meant to insult. I have tried being as respectful as I could possibly be with you, but your sarcasm is meant to insult. I hope I misconstrued your intent, harry. I have said many times, I bite back.
Mr Fairman disallows certain comments where he feels are inappropriate, but he seems to give license to read-between-the-lines insults.
I may step out of line and get carried away sometimes with my pungent remarks about characters….BUT I never insult the actors/actresses or fellow-posters. Enjoy your day, SIR.
Mental illness is a real issue and unfortunately for this show they just make characters “crazy” for the sake of the plot– to do horrible things that only “crazy” or “evil” people would do. It would be a nice change of pace if this show actually did a decent story line of someone inflicted with a mental illness, suffering a breakdown– then see the real process of recovery– I can envision great scenes with this character and the character Kevin– as they journey to make this wounded broken soul whole again. But this being GH I fear what you said will be true, she will be the new Heather Weber or they will just explain her illness away with a new drug that cures her instantly or something as equally unrealistic.
Yes, Mary SF. You make a just and significant point. Mental illness, in different degrees , is a very serious disease which affects more people than any of us realizes.
To depict the disease and the disturbed person in such a way where both appear to be ridiculed and be called names is unconscionable and inhuman.
You are so right. There should be a serious segment on mental illness where the ‘ill’ character is treated with kid gloves and not like a marionette in a freak show.
GH puts it out there and we, the viewers, talk about it, and some of us demonize the character etc.
I am very glad you brought this up. Leave it to you, Mary, to be so intuitive and always the voice of reason.
What about Gina Tognoni on Y&R? She’s been amazing and deserves credit.
This article is about Michelle Stafford. It has nothing to do with Gina Tognoni. Did Gina join General Hospital too? Get a grip.
Stafford rocks.
Hey, who made you the staying on topic police? I wish Gina T were on GH instead of MS. How’s that for staying on topic?
Yes, Gina is excelling in the role of Phyllis. But,my his GH. And, we are talking about Michelle Stafford.
Gina Rocks.
This is not about Gina Tognoni or Y&R!!! 🙂
Beacon can point out what a fabulous job Gina is doing as the nu Phyllis if she wants to. Geez, people–if the moderators thought it was okay then it should be okay with y’all.
But I doubt they will think this post is okay.
Yes Gina Tagnoni rules as the New Phyllis, Gina is a wonderful actress. I smell an emmy for Gina next year. I love her so much as Phyllis Summers. Also I LOVED her on Guiding Light in the role of Dinah Marler, Gina won 2 daytime emmys on Guiding Light.
Well, I stand, er sit, corrected.
Thank you moderators.
Gina is the bomb, wow that woman can act. I am so happy that she is back in daytime, where she belongs. Michelle Stafford, what can you say terrific actress just like Gina Tagnoni.
Agreed, both Michelle and Gina brought their own great spins on the character of Phyllis. Aside from Michelle, I think Gina is perfect for the role. I really like her scenes with Jack and Summer. And as for MS as Nina on GH, she’s just as amazing as she was as Phyllis on Y&R. Both these ladies deserve Emmys for their work.
I still believe Nina was never in a coma…i believe Mother Mad had Nina committed to a mental hospital…Nina was somewhat unbalance to begin with and money hungry bad Mad drugged Nina to make her seem even crazier…in the asylum Nina gave birth to Lauren ex-Kiki and gave the baby to Ava…the Nina Nathan had seen at the clinic was either a lookalike imposter or Nina’s unknown twin Tina who was jealous of her sister and helped her mother for a portion of Ninas loot…Tina was disowned for some unknown reason by her father and was sent away with Mad secretly supporting her then when the father found out he wrote Mad out of his will and left everything to Nina, Tina was so cleverly kept secret that Nathan didnt even know about her…Mad kept Silas from seeing Nina in fear he would learn the truth!!!
Yeah, she could have been drugged all these years so Madeline could control her life, baby, and money.
LOL, jimh….wow…what a storyline. Identical twins, Nina and Tina. Good one.
I wish this story was true…then we could wonder…is this one really Nina or is it Tina who is the unstable one who thinks she is Nina while the real Nina IS in a coma and hidden away somewhere???
While you’re at it, why don’t you just clone her into an army of amazons-courtesy of the Cassadines….you could have Dina, Gina, Lina, Bina….OMG, what am I saying???? Simply the one of this wacked-out woman is already too d@#n much!
Jim & CeeCee– Well, we don’t have a DID story on GH, and Ron’ s crew was very good at writing that for OLTL. Wonder if Nina/Tina will be the next Vicki/Nikki? lol
Okay, I love GH…now I am really laughing…that’s funny. And it could happen. I actually miss Vicki/Nikki. LOL.
I hope so…lol
Shay, be careful what you comment here…Ron might read this and do a clone storyline…lol…i actually liked the clone story on GL years ago but i can imagine GHs if done: an army of Nina clones each confronting Silas, Ava, Lauren, Sam and Mad at the same time or in a group attack…lol
Tell me about it, jimh!!! Although an army of “Nina Clay-clones” would certainly make tackling that obnoxious hit “list” of hers easier to tackle!
Michelle is a superstar and I told GH fans who were not familiar with her stint on Y&R to watch and see. She is the best. How good? Did you see her bring Michael Easton back to life! Her and Sila’s scenes were epic!
Well, Timm, I disagree about Stafford but always thought Michael Eastman was underrated as an actor. He was fabulous as the tough cop with a streak of vulnerability running through him on OLTL.
But I feel sorry for Silas. All these months of watching him sniff, sob and wax poetic about the sweet, innocent Nina, his invisible friend, and he ends up with a psycho bitch on wheels. He looks rather foolish and I suppose he’s embarrassed when he thinks of how he sniffed and snorted with grief over her alleged death to Sam. He painted a picture of a young girls wearing a private school uniform, bobby socks, saddle shoes skipping through the fields picking forget-me-nots. Instead, it seems she was really Rhoda from The Bad Seed. Poor Silas!
You make a good point. I really hate to say this but GH should have let the OLTL people go when the Prospect Park BS hit the fan. All good actors but what the hell is a Franco, Kiki, or Silas! Alll three of these actors are probably embarrassed!
Of course, that is your point of view, harry. Poor, poor Silas, who couldn’t keep it in his pants.
How do we know that all these mental issues did not arise from all the wrongs done to Nina?…and, from her mother also, no less. I feel nothing for Silas. He may have suffered, no doubt…but he lived …he went on…while Nina lay there, dead to the world. And whose fault was that? It all goes back to Maddie.
So many seem to forget that the story was Maddie trying to take Nina away from Silas for her own good. If Nina was do nuts, Silas would not have had even an inkling? When someone is off base, one cannot hide it for too long, I would assume.
Now, suddenly, Nina was so crazy and carrying a child to boot, that she was fit to be tied?
Nah…something’s gotta give. We shall see.
Thank you, Rebecca. Yes, of course I was feeling sorry for Silas. PLus the whole Silas Nina story has really amused the heck out of me.
Due to his stories of Nina, Silas created a great disparity between reality and illusion. I actually like Michael Eastman–I always have.
Cee Cee, you cannot apply real psychology to this storyline. There isn’t even a drop of realism infused into Nina’s case. Don’t get me wrong–I am not complaining, but no one should watch a soap thinking there will be a little psychology 101 infused into the scenario. Real psychosis, be it bipolar disease or schizophrenia, is organic to the individual’s brain chemistry and it’s usually a genetic inheritance. Then if the environment is such, it can trigger the psychosis. Many people argue over environment vs biology but the truth is despite the old saying, NO ONE can drive someone insane. It’s not Silas’s fault that Nina is psychotic anymore then it is his fault that Sam McCall is a fashion victim.
Absolutely, Timmm. I never saw goody-two-shoes, oh-so-loveRly(purposely spelled this way) -Sam do that. Nina got a rise out of Silas, perhaps not the same rise as pussy-cat Sam, but, Nina brought Silas home…
Timm, while I agree that the reintroduction of the OLTL was not initially a success, those storylines planted the seeds for much of what is on the canvas today, which I am enjoying very much.
I can’t imagine GH without at least a few of the following: Julian, Ava, Nina, Silas, Nathan, Madeline, Franco, Kiki, Lucas, Morgan, Rosalie, Jordan, etc. all of whom were either brought on or brought back as a result of the Franco, Kiki, and Silas stories. Heck, the Ava character alone has been very popular – she never would have been introduced without the Prospect Park mess.
I don’t think Harry was saying Michael Eastman shouldn’t be on GH…I think he was agreeing that his scene with Michelle was good…that he is underrated…he did great work on OLTL and finally had something to work with here.
I don’t think Michelle brought Michael to life where Kelly Monaco couldn’t. Obviously, the scene was high impact emotional drama that gave ME/Silas a chance to actually act. Hope he gets to keep the momentum…
Michelle is both very good at crazy and caring (for Franco). Now that the three GH looneys are on the warpath…Franco, Nina and Heather..should be a bad moon a risin’! (In a I can’t-wait-way!)
I agree with you, Nick, very much so.
CeeCee….Nina may have brought Silas “home,” but tragically it was to her own personal “house of horrors!” (And by the way, aren’t you the saucy one with your take on words regarding Sam’s “effect” on Dr. Clay? Naughty girl! LOL.)
CeeCee…i remember a while back you said you didn’t find Silas attractive and wondered if others did. You said something about maybe back in the day or whatever…I pointed out that in my opinion she’s still incredibly attractive, hot, sexy with a killer bod (and yes, I’m straight but I can see that! LOL)…and I mentioned she’d been on the cover of Maxim and did a layout I believe in Playboy. But…so what?
I don’t think she’s objectified on GH…nor does she use her “assets” in any of her dealings with the people of Port Charles. She is a great mom (LOL…when we actually see Danny)…she was protective over Rafe, she had undying love and loyalty to Jason, she’s a wonderful, caring sister …you get my point.
Your seeming dislike of this character looks like it’s tied to your love for Michelle Stafford. That’s fine! It’s just a soap and we all pick our “teams.” But just saying that I personally think “Sam” is a great addition to GH…yes, she’s kinda monotone…soft-spoken…but that’s how I’ve come to “know” her. She is who she is…just like in real life everyone’s different…so in soaps.
So. As clever as the rise/rise comment…I think Silas is in love with Sam…not just sleeping with her. They’ve been through a lot together; he saved her son’s life and held her together emotionally every step of the way…they shared a guardianship of Rafe…she went with him to Manhattan to uncover the secret of Nina’s then whereabouts…This couple, which looks to be over…had substance. Sam was/is no sloppy seconds to Nina…nor did she step between a married man and his wife.
I always feel funny about defending an actor/actress…so I always defend the character. I have no idea what I’d think of the former if I actually met/knew him or her. So, my loyalty lies with the fictional person….
Sam…not Silas.
@rebecca. Yep, I remember saying that about Sam. And, I do agree that she is very sedate and not trashy. I was not implying that…albeit she does or has slept around quite a bit. I know that’s the norm…I am just in the minority, I guess. When I said that I meant that because she took it all off and then some, for PLAYBOY, I meant that the perception may be one which makes the ‘ vox populi’ say she can act….one thing has nothing to do with the other. I have yet to see Sam in a scene which makes me do a double take or say, ‘Wow, what a performance’.
I can do a better job when I want something from my husband…..I always win, BTW… LOL.
I realize I am probably in the minority here, but I found Ms. Clay’s monu–“mental” meltdown to be JUST…TOO…MUCH. I give total credit to ME for his standout performance in this mega-melodramatic denouement, but I simply could not abide that over-the-top tour de force of Stafford’s….you could see it coming a mile away and it was every bit as predictable, explosive and egomaniacal as I expected…..I simply wanted it to stop….I cannot stand this capricious character, and so want her to be gone already. She has more than served her nefarious purpose….I wish we could now move on without her, not to mention that mouthy, obnoxious co-conspirator, Grossalie. Just not my cup of tea, that Nina….
Oh, Shay, Shay, Shay. When you call Nina capricious, it suggests that she acts thus on a whim.
No, no, no !!! She is a tortured soul, NOT WHIMSICAL ….If she seems volatile, it is because she is scared. You must admit Michelle is doing her job well if she can extract such a reaction from you, yes?…LOL.
Sorry to disappoint you, but Nina will not be gone any time soon. You know who will be gone? This Nina will be gone. The Nina we see now, this moment, this week, this month, or coming months.
As always, Shay, your writing just amazes me, I never tire reading your eloquent words…….sparring with you is always a treat. So, my comments are always ‘transmitted’ with the utmost respect. I count the days until you , at least, like Nina a little bit…LOL.
CeeCee…You shall be counting ’til the end of ”pi” before I come around on “LaNina,” but I welcome each and every opportunity to enjoy your ardent efforts to convince me otherwise! (It will only be a fraction less futile than rebecca1′s many valiant attempts to soften my stance on “Snappy!”) Having said that, I do admire your devotion to this wild woman….your immense loyalty to her is laudable…alas, I cannot share your enthusiasm for the methods of madness MS employs to bring her lunacy to life. The repeating….repeating….repeating of words….words….words for emphasis…emphasis….emphasis….is trite….trite….trite….and tedious….tedious….tedious! It wears on my every last nerve…..my….every….last….nerve! And although I must reluctantly concede that “Le Neurotic Nutcase” is going nowhere in the near future, that doesn’t mean that I won’t dearly wish for her departure every time she darkens someone’s door in Port Charles. As for my use of the term “capricious,” it was factually sound…while its commonly held notion is one of fanciful whim, the emotions can also extend to that of the unpredictable, volatile, erratic and/or impulsive, which certainly describes “Phyllina’s” behavior “to a T,” n’est-ce pas? (Maybe “mercurial maniac”would have better sufficed in that particular instance. What can I say? I do love my alliteration-LOL!) At any rate, let’s just call it a draw for now on our dueling declarations regarding GH’s most recent marauding menace….I strongly suspect there will be ample examples in the future upon which to base our debates, which are always a pleasure to behold, CeeCee! P.S. Did you perchance receive a response from me incorporating my male equivalent of “jolie laide?” It didn’t post, but as long as it arrived in your inbox for personal perusal, that’s all that matters. If not, let me know…I saved it, so I can attempt a resend. Thanks!
Shay…as you know I’ve come to like Nina. I think she’s a great character that opened my heart to Franco (who I made known I didn’t originally like…and so wanted to like because I love Roger.) But their friendship was the reason I turned the corner for both of them. I think they add great drama, humor, with a huge touch of pathology and pathos.
As for Rosalie…love her! Didn’t like her when she first arrived…but I’ve come to find her too verrrry funny…her bite and comic/sarcastic timing is precise. She’s sharp, sassy, adorable-looking…and I’m curious to know what her secret is.
You need to open your heart to the new neighbors. LOL…if you could only knock on their door to borrow a cup of sugar and get to know them…perhaps you’d be more welcoming. 😉
Well, rebecca1, since you have compared the acceptance of soap newbies to welcoming those to one’s own street, allow me to use this analogy-Occasionally, new arrivals are a wonderful, delightful addition to your life, but other times they cause you to lament “There goes the neighborhood!!” Enough said…. ; )
touche (put an accent on the e…can’t seem to figure it out on my mac!!!!) but that was good…even though I’m not nominating you for the welcoming committee..gotta give credit where credit’s due!) 😉
Hah!…Good call, rebecca1!!! Although I have to admit if I take to someone, then I’m my own personal “Welcome Wagon!”….No group effort required…LOL..
Shay,
You probably will not get this post…there have been many sent to you from me that just get greedily gobbled up by the MM ( Monster Moderator)…… But, yes, I can be very naughty. My husband loves that side of me…LOL.
Seriously? My point is that Sam is such a fixture, ‘it’ is the only thing she can bring to the table…or rather, ahem…the bed…..later.
Even Michael Easton, not the greatest actor, put in a good performance alongside Stafford. She seems to bring out the best in actors. Totally agree that Linda Elena Tovar is a real find as Rosalue. Can’t wait to see Stafford paired up with Donna Mills today. That should be epic!
Are you kidding me? This actress is so “over the top” it’s like she is acting on a telenovella. Her style is… cringeworthy.
GH & telenovelas are both done in the same style – high camp, just like UGLY BETTY & DESPERATE HOUSEWIVES. GH has been doing this style since Gloria Monty.
I stopped watching during Monty’s switcheroo from traditional soap to sci-fi. Not for me.
Loved Stafford on YR, but at times, yes she could go over the top. On GH it seems they’ve given her free reign. Works for some, but not for a lot of us.
Ditto!
Kudos to Silas! Finally he is showing that side of the actor that I love. His sensitivity as a human being, his fairness, his understanding and his objectivity.
The other day, we saw his frustration and his blindness to how sick Nina really is. He went on a barrage of a screaming binge against Nina, which I thought was unfair, but it seems to have dawned on him that she needs tenderness and help.
Michelle Stafford, as I said from the onset, is showing her stuff.
Nina is running scared. She would have never knocked Silas cold if she did not feel as trapped and cornered as a rabbit. The fact that she flinched and resented Silas for grabbing her arm suggests much. In her mind, she probably felt that he was going to do her bodily harm. Did Maddie abuse her as a child and beyond? There’s a story to be told …..!!!!!
Nina is in SILAS’S world, not hers. She trusts no one except Nathan….so, she runs to him where she knows she will find solace….but, lo and behold! Who does she find ? Sacchubus !!!!
I am sure that Mad will try to commit Nina again. This is getting good. And, jimh, I am starting to suspect that you are right. Maddie is a baddie.
What Nina is exhibiting are her defense mechanisms. It is a natural, God-given instinct which all of us possess. Nina will fight with everything she’s got. So, get ready and hold on to your seats…you ain’t seen nothin’ yet.
I will concede that I favor Nina/Michelle which, therefore, leaves me VERY partial towards her. I see her through Rose-colored lenses. I am simply smitten. Did I say I had a girl-crush on her???? LOL.
There was no abuse. Do you remember when Nina was talking with Franco at the hospital? I think it was Franco; might have been someone else. Any way, she told a disturbing tale of a young girl watching someone & fantasizing about hurting them. This chick has had a screw loose for a while. She’s Heather Webber 2.0…with money. I completely believe Madeline. I’ll even go a step further & say that Madeline might eventually admit that the thought of Nina having a child terrified her to the point where Madeline would not have minded if Nina had died because she wanted to prevent another sociopath from walking the earth. Everyone accuses Madeline of doing it for the money & hating Silas. But, I think it goes back to Nina terrorizing her family. Madeline might have even adopted James to create some kind of loving buffer, which only worked for a little bit.
Kansas…it was a RHETORICAL question….not intended to get an answer……we are discussing…speculating…assuming…we DO NOT KNOW.
I partly agree with you Kansas. But I think Mad was afraid for her unborn grandchild in the hands of an unstable Nina…so she gave kiki to Ava with the stipulation that Silas never know the child is his…which is why Ava told kiki her father was Franco. As for Nathan…Dr.O didn’t want to raise him because of who HIS father is…which we still don’t know (and she didn’t want to pass him off as Faison’s or perhaps not want him to know she’d slept with someone else at the time). James/Nathan is about 20 years younger than Nina so I don’t think the adoption had anything to do with Nina’s erratic behavior; not sure why Mad would do her sister such a huge favor…
Rebecca1- I think Faison IS Nathan’s father and that Dr. O didn’t want Nathan controlled and destroyed by him.
@I love gh…I don’t think so…two reasons:
!) Dr. O is sooooooo madly, blindly in love with Faison I don’t even think she’s views him as demented/controlling.
2) She would do anything to gain his love which is why she presented him with Ben/Rocco…so that he’d have a male heir.
I think if she tried to pass off Nathan as his and he demanded a test she’d be screwed.
I was so sure it was Victor’s…thought even at the end she killed him so that he couldn’t get his hands on Nathan…thinking she switched the lab results at the last minute to make him think Nathan wasn’t his. But then she said she killed him so that the secret would die with him…because his real father was worse. Could it be another Cassadine?
Of course I could be wrong but that’s where my thoughts are…
LOL…Nathan is sooo not an “it.” I meant to write “he”… 🙂
I don’t think for one minute Nina thought Silas was going to harm her. She’s a loon, CeeCee. Justified or just plain nutz…she’s capable of violence…as witnessed by knocking Silas out, threatening to kill her mother, and looking like she wanted to snuff the life out of Rafe before he did her the favor and died. That’s not a hurt flower…that’s a twisted mind. No one, including Silas, should have to be saddled with her. She needs help. Will she get it? Probably not…or at least not for a while so she can create more havoc…with and without Franco by her side.
Rebecca, I am not well versed in the Cassadine family history. Nonetheless, I agree with you when you say that Nathan’s father is a Cassadine….but, whomever he is, is overwhelmingly worse than Victor, according to Liesl…..which struck me as humorous that she can actually differentiate between good, bad, worse and worst. Ha Ha…..sweet irony….really spooky .
Now, my question is; who was the Cassidine patriarch? Helena’s husband? Could the man who fathered Nathan be the ‘Capo’ of the Cassadine family? Was he as diabolical and as fiendish as the rest of this unholy tribe?
This is an example where we wholeheartedly agree, rebecca1! Silas’ wife is one sick Mrs. and the sooner he washes his hands of her, the better….the man deserves to be paroled from his Nina-centric prison cell for time already served! Despite CeeCee’s well-put, passionate pleas to the contrary, there is simply no circumstance in which I will ever believe that that bad-to-the-bone broad wasn’t born that way….she was mentally-disturbed from the very beginning, no trigger required!!!! Additionally, if Madeline were such an awful maternal figure responsible for her daughter’s despicable downfall, how is it that James/Nathan grew up to be such a well-balanced, wonderful gentleman??? These “siblings” had the same “nurturing,” so their differences can only come down to “nature.” Gee, who would have ever thought that Liesl would have been the one capable of reproducing the more normal and stable offspring of these two “Swiss Sisses?”
Did you notice Carly’s quick reference to Bobbie about Bobbie’s marriage one time to Stephan (“What happened to that guy, anyway?”) …. could Stephan be returning to the canvas and playing part of the storyline about Nathan’s parenthood?
Shay…I’m not sure that the paternity test would say anything other than not a match.
@CeeCee…Helena’s husband, Mikkos, was frozen to death onscreen in 1981, along with his brother Tony, during the chilling climax of the “Ice Princess” caper…since that time little has been said of either of these Cassadines. Their deaths happened so far back, that there has never been a hint of possible resurrections, which in order for Nathan to be sired by either, would be necessary….unless we are getting set up for more strange science circa a freeze-dried “test-tube” Cassadine heir with roots in the Reagan era! Besides, if Victor had seen the results of the DNA analysis and they indicated a “familial” link instead of the expected positive match to his, then I should think his reaction would have been far more rage-filled at the hint of Liesl’s “infidelity” with one of his own relatives. Additionally, other than the supposedly late pair of Stefan/Stavros and the still-unseen Valentin, it would appear that we are fresh out of possible Cassadine baby-daddy sperm-donors…provided yet another illegitimate one doesn’t crawl out of the woodwork? Having said that, I also don’t buy the notion that Faison is Nathan’s father….it probably has to be yet another nefarious character that has trod the GH canvas of the past. An interesting choice would be an Alcazar, since there is a history of them in Europe prior to appearing in Port Charles, not to mention a passing physical resemblance between Ted King and Ryan Paevy, but that is mere supposition at this point!!!
Hi Kevin…
Yes! I absolutely heard that comment about Stefan and wondered if that was a foreshadowing of things to come. I absolutely LOVE Stefan and his portrayer, Stephen Nichols!
Wow, Shay. You certainly have a knack of putting everything in perspective. Merci beaucoup, mon amie.
The name Valentin keeps popping up now and again. Is he another of Victor’s brother?
Also, is it possible that all three Westmore offspring share the same father/sperm donor?
A good part of the Cassadine saga happened before I was even born and none in my family watched or watches GH. That leaves me getting my info from the internet…I get lazy, sometimes….LOL…or, I depend on you guys.
I was thinking that TPTB don’t even know themselves who this infamously abominable being, who fathered Nathan, is…..the character is, perhaps, yet to be created. Yes?
Shay…Ted King, the actor who played Alcazar was rumored to be returning to GH after the demise of OLTL…thus the whole girlie trip of Blair and Tea (OLTL) to find out if Tea’s brother Tomas Delgado and Alcazar were one and the same. According to King, he was open to coming aboard GH but unfortunately because of the Prospect Park/ABC suit he couldn’t. Another actor I REALLY like! Hope they are able to release these actors/characters but I’m sure it’s going to be a long, complicated legal battle.
As for him being Nathan’s father…you could be right but I personally don’t see an Alcazar being worse than a Cassadine.
Ahh, Shay…why did Nathan, having been raised in the same environment as Nina, turn out mentally stable? Well, now. Nathan lacked the one thing Maddie wanted to control..MONEY…lots of it.
Now, Nathan’s story is another enigma. How does the issue of Dr. O and a mysterious father who is ‘ badder ‘ than bad, turn out so angelic, both physically and spiritually? It defies logic. But, there you have it !
Maddie, most likely, did not torture or abuse Nathan. There was no need to feed him pills or inject him with whatever. (That is a form of torture) .
I do agree with you that even siblings may be as different as night and day. It is nature. They are born with the Cain and Abel syndrome…LOL.
I will fight tooth and nail for Michelle…for her sanity…LOL.
Michelle did a great job yesterday! Love the look in Silas’ eyes – like, what am I dealing with here??
It’s been a great week for GH when they deal with real people and real stories. I really wish Helena Cassadine would stay dead and Jerry Jax too. Whenever the story switches to them or Robin again, I lose interest.
Looking forward to Franco’s Halloween wedding surprise too 😀
I know what you mean, Ces. Helena and Jerry are like the plague….except we can rid ourselves of that disease with fire….not with these two…indestructible …LOL.
That part of GH gets old – the same old resurrections back from the dead.
No doubt about it, Michelle is killing it. However, I hate the character so much and have no idea where they will go from here. Nina is despicable.
Does anyone know how long Michelle’s contract is? Is it possible she only signed on for a limited run and that’s how CarToony got her on the show?
Anything is possible SZima. I really think, though, that with the help she so desperately needs, Nina will be a completely different character. Also (I may eat my words in the long-run), I believe that the much-needed help will come from none other than Silas himself….followed closely by Franco.
Rumor is Michelle signed a 1 year contract.
SZima..
How long have been you watching soaps, a newbie?
We all know Nina will not be as she is now forever, she will have have her ‘change’
The chosen ones , the good turn bad the bad turn good the meek turn strong and crazies get saved.. (except for Heather she is the Queen of crazy and perfection..
Nina will go on her change journey,she is a chosen for the change, that is obvious, and I’m gonna love it..
Michelle is with GH for a loooong time, enjoy her journey ..:)
GH is far from cartoon whatever, you just are use to sleepers that are year long love and illness dying sad stories, GH is not that breed of soap .. it is very unique.. 🙂
I always thought she was over the top on Y&R, but that now seems restrained compared to GH. The histrionics do not make the character believable, in my opinion. I can’t get past all of the extreme acting to actually enjoy the story that is being told, and just as a counterpoint, much prefer RH’s subtle approach to his similarly troubled character.
Love Roger. He played Todd the same way…devious, hurt, menacing but with a glance, and innuendo, a rant and then calm…
You could not make more sense if you tried, rebecca. Everything you say is true…absolutely sacrosanct. Sam is blameless, Kiki is a victim of circumstance, and, if she is indeed Nina’s daughter, it will be devastating for her also, a double whammy! But, not so Silas. I am very adamant about that rebecca…only because we do not know how much damage, to an already bruised brain, Silas betrayal did…especially if Nina’s ‘illness’ was inherently intrinsic.
Nonetheless, if we are to believe that this is a genetic phenomenon, then why do we so easily exculpate Maddie? Like mother like daughter? How about, monkey see monkey do? How could a mother do that to a daughter, who according to her had a frail mind? She could not have been that sane herself. I still stand firmly in my position…that Maddie used Nina’s hurt and violation of trust from Silas as leverage….an edge…the advantage she needed to have her sedated and tell doctors Nina was emotionally and mentally irrational…CRAZY. Why is it so hard to have had it happen this way…LOL.
As I stated above, you make all the sense in the world and I agree. But, don’t you think something dramatic and traumatic happened in Nina’s childhood which may have triggered, now as an adult, after being dormant for twenty years, a Bertha Mason quality to an already vaporous and deranged mind? …..with the exception, rebecca, that I assimilate Maddie to Rochester and not Silas. I mean, Rochester did keep Bertha, his wife, locked up…..that’s Maddie…that’s exactly what she did…..LOL
I know a healthy mind does not conjure up ways of hurting people or making lists of names. But, maybe that’s her way of letting out steam and not act on it. In my dreams, right?
I do love these sites, rebecca…it’s nice to exchange ideas, thoughts and opinions without abasing one another…thank you….later.
LOL CeeCee…excellent analogy with Bertha…Rochester…Jane Eyre. I’ll take it a step further and say it could be Nina, Silas, Sam. Funny because I was just thinking as I read all the comments that they way some of us analyze these silly soaps you’d think we were in English Lit critiquing Dostoyevsky.
The thing is no matter how you cut it I trust Silas. I doubt he did anything brutal to her…I don’t know why he cheated on her but perhaps he was very unhappy in his marriage…perhaps he saw a side of Nina he couldn’t deal with and succumbed to another (Ava)…we don’t know. But what we DO know is that Silas isn’t evil…he was devastated and guilt-ridden…and he sacrificed all when she came back to support her. Nina’s treacherous…and Silas just woke up out of his coma…the one he seemed to be in while she schemed and lied and tricked (no pun intended) her way into his bed, broke up his relationship and manipulated the whole scenario with Patrick’s confession of wanting to end Rafe’s life.
Madeleine is obviously evil. Regardless of whether she’s telling the truth or not about Nina’s pre-coma mental state…she killed the pharmacist and tried to kill Sam. Obviously the entire brood is a tad off…from Dr. O to Mad to Nina. At least Dr. O and Nina share the wonderful gift of gab and maniacal humor! I can listen to them ramble for hours!
Yeah, rebecca. I particularly enjoyed, THE IDIOT. Who fits the role of Prince Leo the best? Franco, wouldn’t you agree? I DO make this comparison with the most complimentary intentions.
The title belies the content.
Annie: have you never read/seen THE THREE FACES OF EVE?
With all due respect? The reality is quite believable. WHY? Because it’s REAL.
Again,……fiction is based on reality.
And, as far as Franco is concerned, it is not the actor’s approach. He is playing a role. Also, not every person with mental disease displays the same characteristics, I would assume.
@rebecca. Love your second paragraph explaining Sabrina’s temporary lack of judgment to Shay.
Now, why can’t the same apply to Nina?. I pretty much keep paraphrasing what you wrote, only about Nina. Her baby was ripped from her by her mother. Whether Maddie meant to hurt the baby or not is moot. The point is losing a baby, unborn or otherwise, will be a painful cross to bear for a mother forevermore.
So, thank you for explaining it exactly the way I see it…..I look at Sabrina in a different light; however, I can forgive because I can understand her state of mind…she has, I hope, seen the error of her ways, per se.
It’s so hard to concentrate, SATURDAY NIGHT is on…. (this segment is so ridiculously funny), so please excuse any typo.
CeeCee…
It could…if it were temporary insanity as one could possibly argue for Sabrina. Nina has been “acting out” for quite a while now…she tore apart Silas’ apartment, drugged him to sleep with her, tried to kill Rafe, wants to kill her mother, lied about her inability to walk, has a “hit” list…her mind is completely committed to revenge. Additionally, none of the people on her “list” actually caused her coma other than her mother. She’s been projecting the blame on to innocent people…particularly Kiki.
Yes, it’s devastating to be cheated on. But it’s only a person who has lost all control of themselves who would physically hurt another…it’s crazy to want Rosalie to sleep with Michael to hurt Kiki…it goes on and on. I’m sure any of us would be devastated…and that would doesn’t even come close to the emotional dismay/turmoil one would feel if in reality they were asleep for two decades of their life, lost a baby…and it was all caused by mommy dearest. But that rage has to be contained and directed at that one person…Mad…
I’m the epitome of empathy. I can UNDERSTAND all the rage/hurt/devastation…but I also happen to like Silas, Kiki and Sam. They’re innocent. Unlike you, I don’t blame Silas for anything that happened to Nina. The man grieved for a very long time…he fought her family to be able to see her, he was haunted by guilt and memories. Finally, and long overdue…it was his turn to live. You say he did…well, when we first met him he was a closed-off person, distant, off-putting…he only started to regain his life by taking in Rafe, finding love with Sam and his daughter. He deserves his life. Nina’s problems were not his to suffer.
I’ve come to like Nina as I told you. I think the storyline and the actress is a great addition to GH. But that doesn’t mean I don’t think she’s nutz. What I think is there’s a soul in there somewhere…as evidenced by her love for her brother and her attachment to Franco. I think Madeleine might be telling the truth…that’s she’s always been a wild card. If she stays on the show perhaps she’ll be redeemed…maybe Kevin will find some psychiatric problem that others missed. Or, perhaps Mad is the psycho. She did try to kill Sam and she killed the pharmacist. Then again, she’s probably just another murderer like so many other residents of Port Chuck.
Classic episode Thursday. Had to watch it a second time. The pacing, storylines, acting, dialogue, music – everything was excellent. Not a big event episode but the kind of episode where I feel like I get my money’s worth – more than any other show in recent memory.
Good to see Roger back engaged with the material – his scenes with Michael were awesomely played. Fun to watch Sabrina unravel and wonder (I am spoiler-free) whether this huge about-face in character is an exit storyline or a mere turning point for her character. Great reaction by Sonny when Shawn threw Maxie’s name out there as potential patsy for Franco’s potentially untimely demise. Shawn should know better. Have warmed up to the child actress who plays Joslin – she has a Brady Bunch quality to her that’s been missing in daytime. Madeline and Nathan – these two have powerhouse family chemistry. Donna Mills is putting in one of the best performances of her career – why has this not yet gone viral.
Random thought: Can we bring Spin and Ellie back a little more often – like a couple times a year (as often as Heather, Jerry, etc.)? What do we need to do, start a collection?
Michelle Stafford? Should have the Emmy locked up. In addition to this episode I’d recommend she look at the episode where she first asks Silas for a baby. She had tremendous range in that episode as well and the material was in my opinion slightly stronger.
I never saw Michelle Stafford give an extraordinary performance as what I witnessed her giving yesterday on GH ..
It was dynamic and jaw dropping.. An astounding performance.. BRAVO!!
Michelle Stafford really accelerates on GH in her role as Nina as I never seen her do with Phyllis on Y&R..
((Emmy!!))
Donna Mills is fantastic! My mother watched her on Knots Landing, she loved her back then and she loves her now. As for Nathan, well, he’s growing on me, but I’m still not a fan of Ryan Paevey in the role.
As for Roger Howarth, I am so glad he’s getting decent material to work with; chill, art-therapy Franco wasn’t cutting it for me. I love RH and I think he’s finally going to start to shine in this role.
RE: SpinEllie – I’m not a huge Ellie fan, I really loved Spinelli and Maxie together but not so much him with Ellie, even if they are very alike and quirky. But yes, I would very much like to see them back, soon!
As for Sabrina, good lord, I sincerely hope this is her exit story because I can’t stand her, she’s full of revenge and hatred for the completely wrong person, and there is no way to justify killing someone else’s unborn child because yours died, how is that human in any way? Why would you want to put someone else through that pain after being through it yourself? She needs to go, STAT.
And of course, Michelle Stafford is gold. She’s rocked it since day one as Nina, just like she rocked it as Phyllis. The Emmy is definitely hers to lose.
Thank you, Jimmy!!!! Kudos to you on your take of Sappy/Snippy….(Heck, I think in future I will just do a hybrid version of that moniker and call her “Snappy,” since she has been quite “snappish” as of late….LOL.) I also have long loathed this insufferable miss, but now that her felonious pharmaceutical farce is about to be revealed (we can only hope….) the notion that she is all of a sudden conflicted about her too-clever-by-half prescription switch is patently absurd. One minute the “Snapster” is staring daggers at Ava’s bulging baby bump and holding candle-lighting ceremonies to justify her bizarre behavior, then the next she’s whining to Felix (now, her co-conspirator/accomplice, but hey that’s what friends are for, right?) about her little “mistake.” Mistake? Good God, you nauseating nurse, you have planned and perpetrated a murder plot unto an unborn life, and you are finally having second thoughts? Get real!!! As if that sudden touch of conscience weren’t enough to make this absolute annoyance sufficiently exasperating, then she goes right back to being arrogant, condescending and self-righteous with genial gentleman, Michael? Oh spare me your mood swings, you galling git! Needless to say, I also am eagerly anticipating the end of this captious, insipid character, and as a cherry on top of that satisfying “Snappy Go Bye-Bye” sundae, I would love to see it at the hands of Britt and her mama, Dr. O with “h#!! to pay for this conniving caper. Wouldn’t that just provide a delicious and perfect symmetry to the well-deserved end of the road for this deplorable dipstick????
I like “Snappy”… You are a funny girl, Shay. ….made my day…gotta run…later.
Totally agree about Roger Howarth being utilized to the potential he is capable of. He has been languishing in something I can’t put my finger on but I’m sure Roger was crawling out of his skin for the past few months!! Thrilled to see him back in it and wrecking havoc. SO looking forward to him bringing Carly & Michael to their knees with his revelations!
Michael with his stuffy self-righteous attitude and Carly with her “gotta protect my cub” attitude are both annoying!
I still don’t think Donna Mills is that great. She’s very nighttime TV’ish …. I don’t dislike her, but I don’t think she’s done her best work on GH.
Shay…ummmmmm…nope! I see nothing different in what Sabrina did than 99% of soap characters across the soap universe that freak out and do out-of-character things whether it be from revenge, spite, grief, lust, hurt…take your pick.
Is going after an unborn child despicable? Need anyone answer that? Of course. But there are too many deplorable acts on soaps cumulatively that it’s kinda silly to just pick one. Can Sabrina’s actions be explained? Yes. Justified…perhaps to a grief-stricken mother seeking to avenge the death of her child at the hands of a murderess…a woman who is now prancing around ready to give birth…to have a beautiful, bouncing baby to love and cherish…the very experience that (in Sabrina’s mind) Ava robbed her of…as well as robbing her baby of his life. So, under that premise…I see Sabrina still a victim of her own grief. When brought to the realization that Ava was not the guilty party…the ol’ Sabrina emerged. She tried desperately to prevent Ava from taking the pills…she was ready to turn herself in.
Once again I see no duplicitous intent…just a confused, out of her mind, out for revenge young woman who suffered one loss too many. Doesn’t excuse it; but explains it.
Shay…Honestly? I’m not attached to this character. I like Sabrina…if she’s given an interesting story I’d enjoy watching her. If she leaves…I won’t feel the loss like I did with several characters…AJ, Spinelli, Scorpio. There’s no comparison. But all along, and I still stand by this…I always saw this character written as the epitome of good…and in this world (and a fictional one) bad things happen to good people as they say. It’s how we handle those situations. Some are fragile…some are overwhelmed with little support and react dangerously from despair. It’s the stuff that tragedy is made of…
By the way, Shay…I think you missed your calling. Since you’re so fond of alliteration…I think you would have made one heck of a writer on Batman. Holy smokes, Batman! Sanctimonious, sanctify me cry-me-a-river Sabrina is on my last sciatic nerve!
Hi Ces…
I agree with almost everything you said but I disagree where Michael’s concerned. I love him. He is sooooo earnest, so fair-minded, compassionate, intelligent…yet conflicted. He took the brunt of being Sonny’s son…Morgan was sent away and Dante never knew him. He’s been shot at, put in a coma, raped, compelled to kill…and STILL he’s the most decent of the lot! He was wonderful with AJ…gave his bio dad a chance even though Sonny and Carly tried once again to denigrate AJ. Torn in his loyalties…he’s been through so much and yet he continues to love all in his orbit….he finds a way to forgive or look away from the unforgivable.
I can’t wait for Franco to tell him the truth about Sonny…but not because I want him to be hurt…but because I want justice for Aj…I’d like to see Michael turn away from the Corinthos name completely and honor AJ…become a Q…as would have been the natural order of things had he not been ripped from AJ’s life.
There are several scenes that stand out for me, including the ones from the past 2 days. Exquisite. I also loved the scene after she got out of the jammed elevator w/Todd..I mean Franco. She was talking to Silence..I mean Silas, about their baby that died & how Ava got the life & family she never did. She was so human in that scene. The scenes w/Britt when she learns she’s menopausal were impressive too. My fav was her freakout “Say Something'” repeats at Rafe’s bedside at GH. She didn’t know if she was dreaming or if Rafe really woke up. Then T..I mean Franco, came in to help her. It was their 1st scene together and magic was born.
I notice a large number of rude comments about Nina, although it’s slowed down a lot in the last few months. Seems people either love her or loathe her & claim she can’t act. (I get a chuckle out of that every time). Well to each their own I guess, but I think many of the rude comments aren’t mad about her acting as much as they’re irritated she came from Y&R and gets a lot of air-time, seemingly over their favorites. I read this over and over. Before MS (Nina) it was MW (Ava) that got blasted. Now it’s BM’s turn! (Jason/Jake). ER (LuLu) too. (I mean, really though,, how can I take someone seriously who has decided already that they don’t like NuJason from his 12 lines of dialogue thus far over a 14 day period?) Fishy!
I hope MS stays w/GH forever, and now that she’s up from that chair, let’s give her a new shiny place to live all on her own, a job and friends. She has major chemistry w/almost every person she’s had scenes with. So I hope they write a bit better for her and I hope the Negative Nancy’s have to eat crow come Emmy Awards night! I would be stunned if she wasn’t nominated. Stunned.
Oh, my gosh, Laurie. Do we think with the same brain, or something? If you read my posts, we say just about the same thing. How can anyone who is not familiar with Michelle Stafford, or Billy Miller…their acting, make such generalizations and irrational comments?
It clear Nina has mental issues, but some posters take out their dislike for the character on Michelle, not Nina. Comments such as, over the top, sociopath, (which belies the fact that Nina has deep, heartfelt feelings, unlike a sociopath who has none), never liked her on Y&R, etc.. Ms Stafford is playing a part…she is bringing the character to life….but, no, many posters laud Kelly Monaco because she posed for playboy, which, therefore, makes her a better actress? Why? Because the expression on Sam’s face never changes? Because there is no inflection to her voice?
Laurie, as Franco and Nina were talking when they first met, I posted lickety-split , commenting on the fact that there was a spark there. Many disagreed, but soon after they started to see the spark also. These two are able to finish each other sentences, as far as I’m concerned.
I keep agreeing with Su…she knows what she’s talking about when she says that Nina will go over the mountain a changed character. I pretty much keep chanting the same litany.
Someone said Michelle is a superstar…TRUE. She has earned her stars…and stripes.
I doubt if she is only on GH for a year. Really? I would be sorely disappointed. There’s just too much story to tell and not enough time.
Yes, she’s out of that chair…and yes, let’s give her the penthouse in which she is accustomed…and, yes, the fabulous clothes…let’s show off the model-like , svelte and statuesque body of hers.
I can’t remember who, but someone actually said Ava was statuesque…no, Ava is voluptuous; Nina is statuesque. However, talent-wise, I believe these two are on par with each other. I study the expression on their faces….their facial expressions kill each and every time.
That would be me, CeeCee….I described Ava as “statuesque!” Since it literally means having a “tall and shapely form,” I find it to be befitting of Ms. Jerome. Not as much for Nina….she is also tall, of course, but I would consider her more willowy, even angular. All good things to be, by the way…..just different!!!!
Laurie….I hate to point out a snag in your theory about those of us making critical comments regarding MS and your simply putting it down to her previous home at Y&R….these opinions are coming from many of the same individuals who have already welcomed Billy Miller to GH with open arms, myself included!!!! Hello? Last time I looked, he also hails from good old “Genoa City!” At least from my own personal perspective, it’s not from whence a performer comes that is an issue, but what they bring with them to Port Charles and whether they can make a convincing and flawless transition….which BM successfully has, and some others have, well, not so much. Besides which, to blame our critiques on a bias against a particular soap opera is ridiculous….I can easily recall how much griping there was (and sometimes continues to be….) about the “Llanview Three,” of which I had no objections despite not being a fan of that show. When it comes to “newbies” I judge each upon their own merits….do I feel an instant like or visceral dislike toward them, and/or do they grow on me as time passes? Their previous places of employment are truly quite irrelevant to me.
Put heather Webber and Nina Clay together, maybe they can be lesbians together. I would love that lol.
BEST. RESPONSE. EVER.
That would be fantastic and would turn the soap world on its butt!
Maddie…”Is that any way to greet your mother?”
Nina……..”yeah, with a choke hold”. …classic…LOL
CeCe you’re absolutely right, “choke hold” line was CLASSIC.
Had to rewind twice I laughed so hard. Michelle Stafford is
brilliant as Nina.
MICHELLE HAS BEEN JUST PERFECT AS NINA. HER CHARACTER WAS A TOUGH ONE, AND SHE MANAGED TO DO HER PARTS THE BEST OF THE BEST. SHE’S SUCH A WONDERFUL ACTRESS. I’VE LIKED HER FROM HER FIRST DAY ON GH AS I KNEW SHE WOULD BE FANTASTIC. I DON’T LIKE WHEN SO CALLED FANS KNOCK A NEW CAST MEMBER DOWN THE ROAD. I HAD A CUT FEELING THAT SHE WOULD OUTDUE HERSELF, AND HAVE NO BAD REMARKS TO PASS ON, AS SHE MADE ME LAUGH AND MADE ME CRY BECAUSE OF HER CHARACTER. AND TODAY, I SMILE BECAUSE SHE’S ONE OF THE BEST.
Michelle has definitely proven herself (once again) as a very talented actress!
Mary, I think I love you…LOL.
Michelle Stafford is amazing, and she always has been. Phyllis wasn’t nearly as psycho as Nina is, but when Phyllis got mad, she god MAD. and when Nina goes crazy, she goes CRAZY. It’s amazing to see MS play such a range of emotions, very few actors and actresses can do this well. Every day I watch MS on GH it just reminds me how deeply Y&R lost out when she decided to leave the show.
I love Nina, as crazy as she is. And I really like her scenes with Rosalie! I really hope they keep Rosalie around for a while, and I’m really looking forward too watching Nina’s first scenes with Madeline! SO happy Donna Mills is back for this story, it’s sure to be amazing! And after that, I want to see more Nina vs. Ava, Michelle and Maura rocked it on Y&R as Phyllis vs. Diane, so I’m really looking forward to the confrontation here.
I absolutely enjoying Michelle Stafford as Nina Clay! Michelle switches gears easily and effortlessly, it seems-one moment she is a betrayed, hurt wife devastated by her cheating husband-the next moment her entire demeanor changes and she becomes demanding, deceitful, and a tad bit evil. Michelle is a great addition to the cast-so very talented!
Ms. Stafford’s is a master class in the art of acting. Her choices on hand, eye, head placement while in character are brilliant!
A good actors tells the audience what is NOT in the script, but what is going on in their head. No one does it better. Young actors, watch and learn!
Ms. Stanford, thank you for sharing your gift!
And, I, Patricio, thank you for sharing that.
HA!
Only Ms Stafford can make this otherwise dull character and make it interesting to watch and entertaining..I am loving Nina..I am looking forward in seeing her revenge plot on Ava..That would be some kick butt acting between the two DIVAS…PLEASE Ron and writers, don’t forget that Ava is on Nina’s list, LOL..Need to see some fireworks between these two Emmy winners.
will she end up in the same place as Heather Webber? can you imagine those two scheming together! Port Charles would be doomed!
I couldn’t care less about Nina, her mother, her baby, or her ex-husband.
And just picture this: if they showed these clips on The Soup or Jon Stewart, the audience would bust out laughing. Because it is typical soap opera, chew the scenery “acting”. Which is not really acting at all.
Can’t stand the Nina, Silas story line. Let’s focus on the families and people we know of that make up Port Charles, not these newbies.
Hang on BH/lLiz is about to explode the screen with BM is their not one leading man she was paired with that she did not make it work? She is the reason to watch Gh
Okay, tml. You don’t like change. You like status quo. But, life is ever-changing. Nothing ever stays the same…c’est la vie. Storylines on soaps come and go….sometimes new characters are required. What happens when the actors retire or quit or are fired. There would be no one left in Port Charles.
GH has never in history been giving such incredible lead actresses all together at once: Finola, Michelle.
, Maura,Laura,Kelly,Nancy,Jane!! Its a dream cast and i must say Michelle is at her best!!! I am a very big Franco and Nina fan !!! Lets give them a miracle baby (hehe with those too biology does not need to be on their side)
Also, THE LIST should ne a new daytime spin off!!
That’s a very funny mock suggestion, Ghlover…cute, too…I like it…THE LIST…, yes, I like it !
Hi Michael Fairman…
Thanks once again for your lively, engaging site that gives soap freaks…LOL..ahem, fans…a place to debate, agree, rip each other apart (kidding…sorta) and have a place to go to share our soap (s) enthusiasm.
Just want to point out that recently some of my replies…and replies to me…have gotten lost on the page under an unrelated comment. Just wondering if there is a way to remedy this glitch?
Thanks and best…
rebecca1…Just wanted to clarify if some of those “misplaced” comments came from me. They are intentionally placed and here’s why: When someone makes an original post, there is always the reply “tag” immediately after it, and generally such is the case with most subsequent comments. However, it is not always so…and since some of my posts tend to get eaten by the “MM,” and don’t make it online, the fact that I took the time to respond will not at least be verified in the inbox of the person for whom they are intended….hence, I now try to send my comments directly to that person so they know I have appreciated the fact that they answered me and I am doing them a similar courtesy, should my comments not be published. I understand our every word will not make it to post…I am not taking issue with that, but I do like the person that I answered to get my response, which is why I sometimes send them out of sequence if a “reply” tag is not displayed within their more relevant message. Also, it would be super if every post had that reply mechanism…don’t know if it’s an oversight or just something that the webmasters choose not to do…and while I am speaking of this issue, it would be really nice if there were a way to identify the sender of a message when it does indeed make it to our personal inboxes. If the same comments are posted online, you can check, but if not, it is sometimes an abiding mystery…not so much with yours or even CeeCee’s and Jimh’s….you can pretty much recognize one’s personal style after you’ve spent some time here, but still, that little bit of extra identification would be nice.
hey Shay…no; it wasn’t your replies specifically but thanks! yes, it’s frustrating that each comment doesn’t have a reply option…I guess that’s why we need to address the person directly if we’re replying to their comment and not the original op. Ex…my comment…your responce…CeeCee commenting to you (not me) should be @Shay, etc…sigh. Such problems!!!! LOL..(We’d be mighty lucky if this was our biggest problem in life!) 😉
with that lament…I do sometimes find myself doing a name search on the page to see where I or another poster is mentioned to make sure I didn’t miss some scintillating piece of info!
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by the way, I am continuing to watch Forever…there’s just something about the show that’s missing for me…I very much like Ioan Gruffod (though I’d much prefer an easier name like Jake Daniels or something, LOL). He’s adorable, handsome (different…he’s both), charming, likeable…but Alana de la Garza as the detective is just not developed enough…there’s no quick banter between her or for that matter any of the characters as there was in The Mentalist. I don’t feel connected or that much interested in any of them. I think they need to develop more of a personal rapport between some of the characters…it’s just disjointed for me. We shall see…
I just discovered Witches of East End on Lifetime. Loving that…
@rebecca1…..Just wanted to address your concerns if my posts were involved….glad they weren’t necessarily the ones in question. As for “Forever,” I am still watching, as well, although the episode prior to this past week’s put me to sleep (literally….) I liked the most recent one much better, yet there is still room for vast improvement……disjointed is the perfect word to describe the show at this stage. Having said that, Ioan alone will keep me coming back, but you are right about Alana de la Garza….she is attractive enough but very detached…I did read that there was not going to be one of those “office romances” between Henry and her character, so perhaps that’s why she’s playing it the “strictly business” way. Just a guess….
OMG I just got to catch up with GH. Those scenes between Nina and Madeline were everything and more then I dreamed they’d be.. REPENT REPENT!!! Thank you Michele Stafford and Donna Mills for making my day. Can’t wait for Monday’s Episode!
Sounds like Phyllis to me. So why did Michelle Stafford have to leave the #1 show and perhaps the most important, provocative role on daytime television today to take on the same kind of role at a silly sub-par soap.
Breaking News
51st Annual Daytime Emmy Award Nominations: CBS Soaps Score Most, Eric Braeden, Dick Van Dyke, Guy Pearce Receive Nods
The National Academy of Television Arts & Sciences (NATAS) have officially announced on Friday, the full list of nominees for the 51st Annual Daytime Emmy Awards.
While Thursday brought with it four reveals of the nominees in the Outstanding Daytime Drama, Talk Show Host, Lead Actor and Actress categories (as presented by various entertainment news programs), today’s nominations include all the other categories not previously announced.
The Daytime Emmy Awards telecast is set to be presented live on Friday night, June 7, at 8 PM EDT /delayed PT, on the CBS Television Network, and available to stream live and on-demand on Paramount+. This will mark the 18th time that CBS has broadcast the Daytime Emmys.
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In addition, The Daytime Creative Arts & Lifestyle Emmy Awards will be presented on Saturday, June 8 at t9 PM ET/6 PM PT and streamed on The Emmys apps and at watch.TheEmmys.tv. The ceremonies will take place at the Westin Bonaventure Los Angeles.
Television icon, Dick Van Dyke has received his first-ever Daytime Emmy nomination in the Outstanding Guest Performer category for his touching portrayal of Timothy Robicheaux on Peacock’s Days of our Lives. The nomination makes Van Dyke the oldest Daytime Emmy nominee in history at 98-years-old. In addition, motion picture and TV star, Guy Pearce, is also nominated as Guest Performer for his longtime role as Mike Young in the reboot of Neighbours.
Speaking of Neighbours, the Australian soap opera also received its first ever Daytime Emmy nomination for Daytime Drama Series now that its a revival can be streamed on Amazon Freevee. In addition, The Young and the Restless iconic, Eric Braeden (Victor Newman) received his first Daytime Emmy nomination in more than 20 years in the Lead Actor in a Drama Series category.
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In the Daytime Drama series categories, CBS’ The Bold and the Beautiful and The Young and the Restless each scored 12 nominations more than any other show. Leading the acting nominations was B&B, who landed 7 performers in the various categories, a first in its 37-year history.
In a statement, Adam Sharp, President & CEO, NATAS expressed, “We are happy to once again honor the creative talent both in front of and behind the camera of America’s favorite Daytime programs. We look forward to celebrating the icons who enliven the days of audiences across the country.”
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Brent Stanton, Head of Daytime, NATAS added, “Producing the Daytime Emmys is a labor of love for all of us at NATAS. The huge popularity of these shows continues to be must-see viewing for their fans.” NATAS also revealed that Lifetime Achievement Honorees, Hosts, Presenters, and Silver and Gold Circle honorees will be revealed at a later date.
The Daytime Emmy Awards recognize outstanding achievement in television programming honoring work in a variety of categories, including daytime dramas, talk shows, instructional programming, hosting, culinary, and legal/courtroom programs. In 2021, NATAS and the Television Academy jointly announced plans to realign the Daytime and Primetime Emmy Awards to be organized by content genre, as opposed to program airtime.
The 51st Annual Daytime Emmy Awards will be produced once again by NATAS and Associated Television International (ATI). Adam Sharp and Lisa Armstrong are executive producers from NATAS, while David McKenzie executive produces from ATI.
Congratulations to all the men and women in front of the camera and behind the scenes for their recognition as we take a look at who will be going for gold come June. Here are the nominees below starting with the Daytime Drama Categories.
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OUTSTANDING DAYTIME DRAMA SERIES
The Bay
The Bold and the Beautiful
Days of our Lives
General Hospital
Neighbours
The Young and the Restless
OUTSTANDING LEAD PERFORMANCE IN A DAYTIME DRAMA SERIES: ACTRESS
Tamara Braun, Days of our Lives
Finola Hughes, General Hospital
Katherine Kelly Lang, The Bold and the Beautiful
Annika Noelle, The Bold and the Beautiful
Michelle Stafford, The Young and the Restless
Cynthia Watros, General Hospital
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OUTSTANDING LEAD PERFORMANCE IN A DAYTIME DRAMA SERIES: ACTOR
Eric Braeden, The Young and the Restless
Scott Clifton, The Bold and the Beautiful
Thorsten Kaye, The Bold and the Beautiful
Eric Martsolf, Days of our Lives
John McCook, The Bold and the Beautiful
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OUTSTANDING SUPPORTING PERFORMANCE IN A DAYTIME DRAMA SERIES: ACTRESS
Jennifer Gareis, The Bold and the Beautiful
Linsey Godfrey, Days of our Lives
Courtney Hope, The Young and the Restless
Allison Lanier, The Young and the Restless
Emily O’Brien, Days of our Lives
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OUTSTANDING SUPPORTING PERFORMANCE IN A DAYTIME DRAMA SERIES: ACTOR
Robert Gossett, General Hospital
Bryton James, The Young and the Restless
Wally Kurth, Days of our Lives
A Martinez, The Bay
Mike Manning, The Bay
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OUTSTANDING GUEST PERFORMANCE IN A DAYTIME DRAMA SERIES
Linden Ashby, The Young and the Restless
Ashley Jones, The Bold and the Beautiful
Alley Mills, General Hospital
Guy Pearce, Neighbours
Dick Van Dyke, Days of our Lives
OUTSTANDING WRITING TEAM FOR A DAYTIME DRAMA SERIES
The Bay
The Bold and the Beautiful
Days of our Lives
General Hospital
The Young and the Restless
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OUTSTANDING DIRECTING TEAM FOR A DAYTIME DRAMA SERIES
The Bay
The Bold and the Beautiful
Days of our Lives
General Hospital
The Young and the Restless
OUTSTANDING LIGHTING DIRECTION
General Hospital
The Jennifer Hudson Show
The Kelly Clarkson Show
The View
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OUTSTANDING TECHNICAL DIRECTION, CAMERAWORK, VIDEO
The Bold and the Beautiful
Days of our Lives
Disney Parks Magical Christmas Day Parade
The Kelly Clarkson Show
OUTSTANDING CASTING
African Queens: Njinga
Days of our Lives
General Hospital
Start Up
The Young and the Restless
OUTSTANDING ART DIRECTION/SET DECORATION/SCENIC DESIGN
African Queens: Njinga
The Drew Barrymore Show
General Hospital
The Kelly Clarkson Show
The View
The Young and the Restless
OUTSTANDING COSTUME DESIGN/STYLING
African Queens: Njinga
The Bold and the Beautiful
The Jennifer Hudson Show
Sherri
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OUTSTANDING HAIRSTYLING AND MAKEUP
African Queens: Njinga
The Drew Barrymore Show
Sherri
The View
The Young and the Restless
OUTSTANDING ORIGINAL SONG
“Shine” General Hospital
“Unexpected Truth”Unexpected
“We’re Home” Reconnecting Roots
OUTSTANDING DAYTIME TALK SERIES
The Jennifer Hudson Show
The Kelly Clarkson Show
Tamron Hall
Turning The Tables with Robin Roberts
The View
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OUTSTANDING ENTERTAINMENT NEWS SERIES
Access Hollywood
Entertainment Tonight
Extra
OUTSTANDING CULINARY SERIES
Be My Guest with Ina Garten
Family Dinner
Selena + Chef: Home for the Holidays
Valerie’s Home Cooking
What Am I Eating? with Zooey Deschanel
OUTSTANDING LEGAL/COURTROOM PROGRAM
Hot Bench
Judy Justice
Justice For The People with Judge Milian
The People’s Court
We The People with Judge Lauren Lake
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DAYTIME TALK SERIES HOST
Joy Behar, Whoopi Goldberg, Alyssa Farah Griffin, Sara Haines, Sunny Hostin, Ana Navarro, The View
Kelly Clarkson, The Kelly Clarkson Show
Mark Consuelos, Kelly Ripa, Live with Kelly and Mark
Akbar Gbajabiamila, Amanda Kloots, Natalie Morales, Jerry O’Connell, Sheryl Underwood, The Talk
Tamron Hall, Tamron Hall
OUTSTANDING CULINARY HOST
Lidia Bastianich, 25 Years with Lidia: A Culinary Jubilee
Valerie Bertinelli, Valerie’s Home Cooking
Eduardo Garcia, Big Sky Kitchen with Eduardo Garcia
Emeril Lagasse, Emeril Cooks
Sophia Roe, Counter Space
Buddy Valastro, Legends of the Fork
OUTSTANDING DAYTIME PERSONALITY – DAILY
Frank Caprio, Caught in Providence
Kevin Frazier, Nischelle Turner , Matt Cohen, Cassie DiLaura, Denny Directo, Will Marfuggi, Rachel Smith, Entertainment Tonight
Deborah Norville, Steven Fabian, Lisa Guerrero, Ann Mercogliano, Jim Moret, Les Trent. Inside Edition
Robert Hernandez, Star Jones, Divorce Court
Judge Judy Sheindlin, Whitney Kumar, Kevin Rasco, Sarah Rose, Judy Justice
What do you think about the nominations for the 51st annual Daytime Emmy Awards? Who do you think deserved to get in that did? Who do you think got snubbed? Who are you happiest to see receive a nomination? Let us know via the comment section below.
Make sure to be with us live starting tonight Friday, April 19th at 8pm ET/5pm PT for the Michael Fairman Channel’s 10th anniversary edition of its Daytime Emmy Nomination Special 2024, featuring some of the just announced daytime drama nominees.
Breaking News
51st Daytime Emmys: Outstanding Daytime Drama Series Nominations
On Thursday, the 51st annual Daytime Emmy Awards revealed nominations in several key categories via four entertainment news programs: Access Hollywood, E! News, Extra and Access Hollywood.
Three of the four announcements were major categories in the field of Daytime Dramas.
The nominees in the Outstanding Daytime Drama Series category are: The Bay, The Bold and the Beautiful, Days of our Lives, General Hospital, Neighbours and The Young and the Restless.
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General Hospital won this category last year, and has the most all-time wins for a series in this category. For the first time, the beloved Australian-based soap opera, Neighbours is now eligible for competition due to its reboot which streams on Amazon Freevee.
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The 51st annual Daytime Emmy Awards will be handed out in ceremonies in Los Angeles and broadcast live on CBS and streaming on Paramount+ on Friday night, June 7th.
Previous categories announced tonight via the entertainment news outlet included: Lead Actor and Lead Actress in a Drama Series.
So, what do you think about this year’s nominee for the Outstanding Daytime Drama Series? Who do you think should win? Comment below.
Breaking News
51st Daytime Emmys: Tamara Braun, Finola Hughes, Katherine Kelly Lang, Annika Noelle, Michelle Stafford, Cynthia Watros Score Lead Actress Nominations
The nominations were revealed for the 51st annual Daytime Emmys. in the prestigious Lead Actress in a Drama Series category by Entertainment Tonight.
This comes ahead of tomorrow’s full list that is set to be unveiled at 12noon/9am PST on Friday.
In the running for this year’s Outstanding Lead Actress are Tamara Braun (Ava, Days of our Lives), Katherine Kelly Lang (Brooke, The Bold and the Beautiful), Annika Noelle (Hope, The Bold and the Beautiful), Finola Hughes (Anna, General Hospital), Cynthia Watros (Nina, General Hospital) and Michelle Stafford (Phyllis, The Young and the Restless).
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Previous winners in this category include GH’s Finola Hughes, Cynthia Watros and Y&R’s Michelle Stafford. Days of our Lives nominee had won in the Supporting Actress category twice in her career.
Earlier, the Lead Actor nominees were revealed and you can find them here.
Make sure to be with us Friday night, April 19th for the Michael Fairman Channel’s 10th annual Daytime Emmy Nominations Special beginning at 5 pm PT where we chat live with some of this year’s nominees.
So, what do you think about this year’s Lead Actress nominees? Comment below.
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