Yeah…i agree…no real shocker here…i also seen twin switches on Dark Shadows, Return To Peyton Place, and Days Of Our Lives-all those shows were better at it!!

and there is never ever really any soap happy endings!!!

Not far enough!!!-lol

Love, not live, story

really, “strong” post

I will reiterate…. I have grown to adore Sabrina

first and foremost… I will always want more people of color
2ndly… I wanted a relationship with Michael… if this solidified her belong

I’ve made no bones about how uninterested I think the character Michael

lightning struck… not as strong as heat induced or come hither

but a chord of semblance… a chemistry WITH two characters

so yes… for all it’s worth… I like these two characters together…

where else could either of these two go ?

it would seem… and I’m still interested that she and Dr. John could… flirt with togetherness… I LOVED CARLOS passion and love for “his” son and sublime believe in his love for his lady love Sabrina

I know it worked

Sabrina has grown on me
Nathan has grown
Michael is much more interesting with finally at last a pairing that is a sensitive portrayal that he the actor can work with… I buy it

pairing Sabrina with Tracy always helps… anyone

I don’t know… I sometimes think.. the actor who portraits Sabrina… is doing a bang up job

a “Latina” and/or Puerto Rican who is finding her way… I root for her

she has a strong back up going for her… and I do not see it as trying tiresome or lack

so… for all it’s worth… Sabrina w/Michael… just like : dante/lulu, maxie/Nathan

go their

Thanks Patrick. i always liked Sabrina. She was sort of like Emily. Sincerely sweet; no ulterior motive which some had accused her of when she was with Patrick. She was supposed to be a stark contrast to Britt who was the gorgeous bitch…Sabrina the mousey nurse with a heart of gold. The problem is even though I like her they STILL haven’t evolved her into someone I feel connected to or look forward to seeing in an episode. On the other hand the show needs balance and it has very few truly good people. Michael and Sabrina, IF allowed to develop, could be a hot chocolate on a cold, winter day. Lol…a comfort couple. Home and hearth couple with baby makes three. They could continue living with Tracy and Monica, Dylan…and start bringing people to the house again. Sabrina, like Emily before her and Lila before her could be the ” heart” of the Q house if Michael took his rightful place in the Q family and they got married.

I always liked Michael. The original, adorable little red-headed actor who was the Spencer of his day…to this adult Michael. First, I think he’s good looking. And honest, sincere, compassionate, loyal. He’s just one of the good guys, untainted, miraculously considering his manipulative mom and mob “dad.” Of course I’m beyond pissed that he forgave Sonny AND Carly with what they did to AJ…the murder of course but EVERY rotten thing they did to him. There should still be some visible conflict in Michael even as he continues a relationship with Carly and Sonny. There should still be inner turmoil…

I agree about Ryan Paevy/Nathan. I think his acting has improved tremendously. I like the actor and the character.

LOL

absolutely

there has to be some menace to machismo his MOVE

i’m giddy reading all the posts

whenever I’ve read his stuff in SOD… or whathaveyou

it’s really endearing to read how .. he genuinely cares about this craft as an art form

I’m happy he’s happy to be in this genre

Hey, Rose.
You’re such a nice person. I really don’t care about the Joss kidney story. Proverbial needle in a haystack?
The only way this story would turn my head would have to be something astronomically out of this hemisphere. Who is the donor….someone we could never have imagined? Let’s see; Sonny? Another gold medal to add to his lapel and more fodder for his already swelled head.
As far as Joe, I agree. He has that aura of mystery which is so typical and ‘familiar’ to soaps. I think he is still in love with Sabrina. Carlos ‘stole’ her from him. Now, there is another obstacle…Michael.
But, I think jimh may have a great point; that is, Joe was Carlos and vice versa.

Celia I see merit in Jimh’s suggestion as well. Maybe thats why I sensed something under that calm demeanor. No one can account for all of Carlos time, where he’s been, and who he saw. So a real cameleon?

I’m back to take credit again…hey, we all do it! 🙂 I said on a previous post Joe might be Carlos! Not sure what I believe which is half the fun, but the thought immediately came to mind. Either way he’s probably trouble.

I know you always make sense, Rose. And, if truth be known, I felt the same undercurrent. But, not in a bad way…only that he wants Sabrina.
Then, again….the possibility that Joe and Carlos are one and the same, is the elephant in the room. There is that!!!

And, Rebecca. I see nothing wrong in taking credit. You did say this first. It is what it is.
Just as I will, eventually, take credit if Naomi is, indeed, Liz’s mother. I said it first. LOL.

Celia, Rebecca, & others…Isn’t it nice when we can all have a chance to be brilliant once in a while?!?

Yes Rose, it is! We’re actually brilliant all of the time. We just proclaim it every now and then. 🙂

Thanks CeeCee, but if it doesn’t turn out that way, I’m going straight to denying I ever even thought it! 🙂

What do you mean, once in a while? I am always brilliant! HaHa!!!!
I need your feedback, Rose. I am just joshin’, Rose. The camaraderie on these boards is the best thing, guys!!

Very well phrased, Shaybelle. I like what you say about the probable reason for bringing Parise back. Not because he fits in a pertaining storyline, but because he is a fan-fave.
I wish it could always be thus….what fans want, fans get.

That list should include Hate-den-lol

Me three, Timmm!!!!….Plus Sabs, Teduardo, Nina, Alexis and Hayden!

The only question is just how did she land in the middle???? Did she buy “Baby Rachel” from the almost supernaturally fertile Heather, unbeknowst to Papa Jeff????? (Meaning did Ms. Webber have another child or children under the radar just like with Franco? She supposedly suffered a miscarriage during her second pregnancy with Jeff.) It would seem that twins with Liz being the other child isn’t the answer, or this nuttier than fruitcake character would have been raising the red flag when her son expressed a romantic interest in Elizabeth…..so maybe there is only a half-sisterly link between Hayden and Nurse Webber? Or Naomi had Jeff’s twins and these two are full-on siblings, but then how does Heather enter into the equation??? Perhaps whilst she was participating in her own maternity ward hijinks during the Jason and Franco births, she happened upon Naomi’s own “special deliveries????” It still doesn’t explain Jeff’s past in the equation….when first he left Port Charles, he headed for Nevada, then overseas. Did he meet Naomi in Vegas??? I’m sure whatever scenario is conjured to set up this storyline, it will be as full of holes as most others!

@Shay.
Hey, babes….,
Well, now; this ‘Jeff-business’, as you know, is virgin territory for me. I am assuming Jeff is Lizzie’s Daddy?
LOL, Shay, as soon as Heather entered the ‘equation’, a few thoughts entered my mind….not as sophisticated as yours due to the fact of my limited knowledge……I find myself quite handicapped when many of you get nostalgic and take a trip down memory lane…… yet, I wondered.
If Nutty Hetty did not react to the news that her son is interested in Lizzie is perhaps for the simple reason she had not borne Hayden or Liz. Just speculating here. It is impossible to give a judicious guess on these soaps……so, ultimately we accept whatever is served on our plates.
So many scenatios: Liz and Hayden could be twins, fathered by this Jeff person, as I said. Naomi kept Hayden and gave Liz to the Webers. Daddy Ray was cockooled, and was never the wiser. As the Italians say; he is “cornuto”…. Wearing horns ( when a wife cheats on her spouse).
OR: the women are half-sisters, which would have no bearing on Franco doing the no-no with Liz.
On the other hand, if they are hanf sisters, and Heather did give birth to Hayden ( the father being Ray), then Franco and Hayden are half siblings.
Is it possible Heather ‘gave’ the baby to Ray and Naomi?A reverse situation could be applicable here. HaHaHaHaHa. Now, I am taking this to the utmost extreme……the imagination gallops, Shay. I hope you are following me because I can’t seem to follow myself, LOL.
Nonetheless, there is a definite ‘something’ between Naomi and Heather. Undoubtedly, the storytellers don’t have the plot within their grasp yet. Will it fizzle out like Fluke’s?
Whatever happens, I am just glad to see Heather. She is simply and indubitably a riot to watch.
Accidental pun. Later.

We should wait a minute because you are correct sweetie, Hayden is FINALLY getting interesting courtesy of Liz’s suggested mother. Hayden and Liz can scratch their eyes out and then Sarah Webber rolls into town to put BOTH of them in their places and THEN Richard Dean Anderson reprises his role as Jeff Webber AND HE is connected to Laura. GH is back!!!

@CeeCee…..Well, one can never underestimate Heather’s powers of duplicity….she is a seasoned pro nonpareil! You know, I had another thought about her lack of concern for a Liz and Franco physical pairing….just suppose she really isn’t the Franckenbirth mama after all….since she’s lied about nearly everything else when it suits her purpose, why not the truth regarding this mad artiste’s real origins??? That would clear the way for her to have produced baby Liz (and/or Hayden)…..just a notion! (I’m hoping against that first suggestion….I mean the lovely Liz as Heather’s daughter???? Ohhhh nooooo! Now Hayden, I would believe as this shedevil’s spawn, given she definitely has exhibited similar tendencies!) Honestly, even though I was pretty much privy to all of Ms. Webber’s inspired lunacy during the ’80’s when her antics were heavily featured onscreen, the modern day regimes have already so incorporated major revisionism into the past lives of all our beloved legacy characters that anything is now possible!!!! It seems as though Heather has lived most of her life in the shadows, and has plenty of skeletons in her closet left to unearth! As for the details of Jeff and his Heathers I/II, I had to check online for details, because I never really “knew” them…..perhaps I briefly saw them through some flashbacks, which soaps once heavily utilized—and would be an excellent means of bringing people up to speed today—but I still needed to fact check on specifics about these characters. Even with such information at hand, there are still plenty of major loopholes and lapses left open to interpretation…..and you can bet the showrunners will shamelessly exploit them! Let’s just pray this twisted family tree tale isn’t as convoluted as the “Clusterfluke!”

Joe Rivera alright for now. Maybe he’ll give Michael and Sabrina something to do.

@Timmm….I second that motion!

Edwardo, what a freakin joke! Edward is spinning and spinning! He is NOT Michael’s kid! Edward hated Sonny and would NEVER accept this thug as a grandson!