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L.A. TIMES: Moving Soaps (AMC/OLTL) from TV to Web: Easier Said Then Done!

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The Los Angeles Times weighed in on the big announcement that sent shockwaves through the industry and fans of the soap genre late this week.  We can only be talking about the news that One Life to Live and All My Children have been given new life, when they go off network television, and will land on the Internet.  It all centers around a deal brokered by ABC and Prospect Park.  But according to the L.A. Times, the situation could be fraught with some large hurdles to overcome for it to be successful. Here are some key points below from the article on the Prospect Park- One Life to Live/All My Children online venture that are thought-provoking!

LATimes: “The economics of such a move wouldn’t be easy. Soap operas have large casts, writing staffs, producers and lots of sets. In other words, they’re not cheap. A soap can cost as much as $50 million a year to produce.

The announcement from Prospect Park — an entertainment company whose partners include former Disney executive Rich Frank that has aspirations of creating a Web entertainment giant — was very sparse on the details of how it would pull off moving the two soaps from broadcast television to the Internet.

It is also unclear who from the two soap operas is actually on board with the plan. ABC is licensing its soaps to Prospect Park, but that doesn’t necessarily mean the entire cast and crew are involved. Neither ABC or Prospect Park are commenting beyond their news release. Prospect Park will have to cut deals with the talent of the two soaps, who would probably have to take pay cuts if they want to be involved in the new versions of the shows.

Both soaps average about 2.5 million viewers, a number that may be hard to reach online. Also advertising online is not as expensive as advertising on television.  Until the Internet as a distribution system and — more important — advertising on the Internet reach parity with television, the idea of network-like programming on the Web may be a plot better left to soap operas.”

So what do you think about the issues this article raises? They bring to light many of the things that many in the industry and soap fans have been pondering with no direct answers yet since this news broke!.  Stay tuned for more updates on this developing story in the coming weeks.

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Amy
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Amy

I am a realist and realize that a move like this would involve some loss but I will say as far as the cast…soaps have always had an everchanging cast…always…I don’t see the same people on OLTL or AMC that I did 20 years ago for the most part and so if not everyone remains I am okay with that while I recognize that each show has staple characters that must be present for at least a couple years of the transition for the show to be viable before they can afford to lose them. I have watched soap opera… Read more »

Kim Goodwin
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Kim Goodwin

Amy I agree with you 100%. I know Agnes has told us that she is going to help Prospect Park write the stories and she knows a lot more of the details. I trust her word and I know she would never tell the fans of what is her baby (AMC) that these shows will be better than ever with the same quality and just as it is now if she knew that they couldn’t afford it. This new company could also be expanding internationally as this project has been in the works for awhile and they got a large… Read more »

brian
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brian

yes, i would agree that more than 2.5 million watch OLTL, please find a way to include us Canadians! Look at OLTL’s ties to Canada, aka Bree Williamson, Nathan Fillion, etc…

Michael Smith
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Michael Smith

The question becomes: What will this new internet incarnation look like? If some pallid, amateur version of either show is the best that can be accomplished, they may be better off having a dignified finale.

I did find a glimmer of hope in the news, but the number of questions generated and a glaring absence of answers is troubling.

Kim Goodwin
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Kim Goodwin

being told that it is going to be better than ever from Agnes so I trust her. Not ABC/Disney and the fact they still have power to make them go away is scary but I just hope that they won’t. The facts are we don’t have anything but a brief blurb of what is happening. Told one hour long same quality and hopefully same charactors. Good writing with Agnes on the sidelines helping. We just have to hope nobody is being given any false hope but he actors sound happy once they had the following day to discuss with their… Read more »

liz
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liz

These are the exact same things I was worried about too. I would gladly pay to watch oltl, if they continue to make it as good as it has been lately. The bully storyline really captured my heart and reminded me of a time where there were valuable lessons that could be learned from soaps. Although, anyone who sees a soap and aspires to be like that may want to consult there therapist, the social issues that they deal with are really amazing. From rape, to abuse, to bullying, they have the ability to send a profound message to a… Read more »

Robin
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Robin

I’ve often wondered why soaps didn’t pare down their cast and find better writers. A lot can be done in a half hour, at a cost that may not be as exorbitant as what the hour long soaps incur.

I miss soaps, but knew there was nothing for me to see after ATWT said goodbye. I wish people would crunch the numbers, the talent and hire some amazing writers!

I don’t think I’d pay to watch other AMC or OLTL, but I’m thrilled for soap fans that there is hope!

Jan
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Jan

I truely dont know what to say, I’ve admired the work of theses people.
Soaps are hard to do, script have to be learned fast.
What pisses me off are actors come and go ruining storylines, having to force SOAPS
to putting terrible storylines in their stories place.
OLTL was the last show I real watched last October of 2010.
STARR & COLE.

mike
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mike

Soaps went to hour long formats because the cost was only a fraction more than the half hour but the profit was double. I think we all know this new venture will fail, the hope is that one or both of the shows might come back to ABC after the new “reality ” shows fail badly.While there is life, there is hope.

Todd Bennett
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Todd Bennett

Wow “Mike”. You make a statement that “I think we all know this new venture will fail”. Jeez, the announcement was JUST made…give the plan a chance. There are surely alot of details that cannot be released yet as I would think contracts must be renegotiated among alot of other details. These full plans are not going to be released until all that is finalized. So, that doesn’t mean “it’s going to fail”. The transition hasn’t even come close to happening yet. I’ve watched OLTL since almost day one (Viki was still residing with her father at Llanfair and sister,… Read more »

Reed
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Reed

I do not put much stock in what the LA Times has to say. First off, they say that both shows only average 2.5 million viewers. Where do they get this number? Well, from the ratings. Ratings which only reflect people who watch live or same day DVR viewing. This does not take into account people who watch on Soapnet, Abc.com, utube, other various third party websites, or people who simply wait til the weekend to watch the DVR recordings. The ratings system for TV is and always has been flawed, whereas the Internet “ratings” are not because an Internet… Read more »

skyangel
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skyangel

what happens to the older people in nursing homes that do not have internet they are without their shows and the people on fixed incomes it is not fair . this is so not fair to the other people we can watch our shows there are people that are going to be left out we have to fight for them

harlee
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harlee

I think this is wonderful news for this genre. Prospect Park is being pioneers as soaps was in the beginning. Yes, cuts will be coming but I don’t think it will be jarring and not as expensive as network television. People that has made a living by being involved rather actors, writers, producers etc.. that is a love for this genre to succeed. There are passionate people in this industry who has a deep love. As one poster suggested Amy soaps can do some amazing realistic, character driven stories, not be confined and put more grit with internet and that… Read more »

skyangel
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skyangel

ok what about the older soap fans that have no internet ? Because they are in Nursing home or on fixed income can we just say ok we have our shows I can not just forget about them. Can we still fight for them?

harlee
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harlee

I’m older, 50 and now the shows have been saved comes well I don’t have internet? There is always a way if wanted to watch the soaps, either by grandchildren helping their elders, which they should, nursing homes (I work in dietary) have computers. The nursing home where I worked is going to install a desk top in the multi-purpose room so the residents can watch “their” shows. Listen the residents pay for nursing home services they can demand to internet. This is a flimsy excuse, just another reason to have something to complain about…..senior centers are free and have… Read more »

mo
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mo

I hope they thought of some of these things before the deal was made. Where will the shows be filmed? Will PP lease space from ABC to continue as is? I think if I were one of these shows and I had already made plans past cancellations or had prospects, I would go with that. Seemed like hoorah at first, but all the technical stuff is quite overwhelming. And I think the cast will really have to be pared down. Plus, I don’t know about the rest of people, my computer chair is not as comfy as my TV chair.… Read more »

brian
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brian

Mo, it is so easy to hook your pc to your tv, assuming you have a flat screen tv. Most have a vga input, or pc input, or an hdmi input, if it has any of these, any pc can be displayed on it.

Todd Bennett
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Todd Bennett

Correct, Brian. Even if you have your laptop on the floor…using an HDMI cable from the laptop into the TV…will basically make your TV a very large PC monitor…you still use the mouse or laptop pad to make your way to the website this will be hosted on and then once it’s playing…you watch on your TV.

skyangel
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skyangel

OK but what if you do not have any of that we all do but what if you lived in a nursing home or just had t.v. no internet cause you were on a fixed income alot of people do not have internet so they will be out and now we will not be able to record our shows and is this their way of getting back at us for causing a riot to put it on the internet and make us pay for it I think it is. Now they fired most of the cast on OLTL think they… Read more »

Amanda G
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Amanda G

While I am happy that PP had the faith in these shows to give them a chance and move them online, I am also saddened by the fact that MANY viewers will be left behind and on the day they show ends on TV is the day it ends for them, for many different reason. It’s great for the ones that have internet access. But many rural areas are still dial up coverage. I know in the area I live over a year ago that was my only way to get online was Dial up. I also worked in a… Read more »

Linda Dowell
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Linda Dowell

I would pay a fee each month to watch these soaps at my leisure – I do believe this will be the end result – it won’t be computer advertising.

And, I’ll pay………and I would guess I’m not unique – most die hard soap fans will.

brian
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brian

agreed, Linda, I will pay to for OLTL, even in Canada

Gmbenet
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Gmbenet

The only way this will work is if advertisers are willing to pay for it and there are actors who are willing to work cheap. This might be a good opportunity for aspiring actors who need a chance to showcase their talents. I do not see veteran soap actors doing this under contract because the pay would be too low. They (the veteran actors) could use the demise of AMC and OLTL to pursue other interests that would be more lucrative. Something could be worked out regarding sets. I don’t know about wardrobe, hair and make-up. So ultimately, the shows… Read more »

Linda Dowell
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Linda Dowell

I don’t know the costs involved of internet broadcast – I believe it must be cheaper in some form because it’s being pursued – ie Netflix and Kevin Spacey – but, if each person paid $25/month to watch AMC/OLTL, and there’s 2.5 million people watching – which we believe to be low – that’s revenue to the org of $62.5mm each month. Plus whatever they may get from internet ads – which may have some significance due to the size of the audience. They may lose some audience – but – they may also gain audience of the young and… Read more »

david
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david

These shows have the potential to reach tens of millions of more viewers over the internet. Broadband is better developed and cheaper in Western Europe and parts of Asia than the US. Initial financial limitations will be overcome as millions of new viewers begin watching from all over the world. This is a smart strategy and investment. This is the future of video.

Todd Bennett
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Todd Bennett

I thought of this as well. Will some of the highest-paid actors (Erika Slezak, Robert S. Woods, Robin Strasser) be open to what I would think would be large pay cuts? Same for Head Writer Rob Carlivati and those behind the scenes?
Another point I thought of is being on the internet–new stories could be explored that might not have been approved by the bosses at ABC daytime. Partial nudity a possibility? R rated type language? It’s all a possibility as the “soap opera” of yesterday becomes tomorrow’s new daytime serial!

monday
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monday

I’ll watch online soaps, but I hope AMC & OLTO do better with their story lines. When AMC brought back Greenley it was a big disappointment, the story line between her and david was so boring, there was no chemistry between the two and with ryan either (IMO). I like Cara, but not with Tad, no chemistry, I like Griff, but not with Kendall and I don’t like what they are doing with Marissa & Bianca. Madison & Griff would be a good match up and Cara should be paired with Ryan.

mike
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mike

I think the viewership of the shows is more than what Nielsen reports. The current rating system must be changed. I think Prospect Park is using the shows to jump start their company. They are using the shows in the way Direct TV used Passions a couple of years ago, to get sign ups they hope will stay even after their show is dropped. I do hope I’m wong. I have watched OLTL since the first days of Doris Belack,Antony Ponzinni, and the Storm Brothers as the Wolek Family, Nat Polen as the fatherly Dr. Jim Craig, Ellen Holly as… Read more »

John F
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John F

It’s all about cost, and production costs would be significantly lower for soaps going to the Internet as opposed to television.

Alice G
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Alice G

I am happy they are being saved but I hope these two new shows fail because we have enough reality and cooking shows already, Soaps are unique most of us have watched them since we were teenagers. If these show fail they will return our soaps without a doubt. I don’t think AMC and OLTL will be successul on the internet. I think ABC should reconsider because we the soap watchers are the ones watching TV at that time and we want our soaps in the afternoon!!

jp
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jp

I hope oltl can continue online for a short time and that a cable network like usa or tnt can buy the rights for the show. It can be done. I just found out that Dallas is coming back to tnt in the summer of 2012. Keep believing OLTL fans.

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Beloved Soap Stars Left Out of 2021 Primetime Emmy Broadcast In-Memoriam Tribute

Last night, during the presentation of the 73rd annual Primetime Emmys broadcast on CBS, the annual In-Memoriam segment brought with it so many households names in a year that saw so many legacy talents and more pass away.

The tribute was performed by Leon Bridges and Jon Batiste to Bridge’s song, “River”, and as the images of the departed played across the screens from Cloris Leachman to Cicely Tyson, to Ed Asner to Michael K. Williams, and more, it was clear that several of the major late daytime soap stars were not included in the on-air tribute as well as other omissions.

Now granted, we know they will all be a part of next year’s 49th annual Daytime Emmy Awards in-memoriam segment, but still these actors were a part of this community and not only appeared on the soaps, but other shows as well.

Those that daytime fans noticed were not included were: Michael Nader (Ex-Dex Dexter and Dimitri Marick, Dynasty and All My Children) Stuart Damon (Ex-Alan Quartermaine, General Hospital), Ray MacDonnell (Ex-Joe Martin, All My Children) and Jay Pickett (Ex-Frank Scanlon, Port Charles).

From primetime MIA action were: Michael Constantine (Ex-Room 222), Tanya Roberts (Ex-Charlie’s Angeles), Director, Richard Donner, writer Larry McMurty, and DMX, to name but a few.

However, the Television Academy did list all of its members who died on their website in the In-Memoriam section, because due to time constraints, they could not possibly showcase everyone.

What do you feel about the omissions of Nader, Damon, MacDonnell, Pickett, and more from the In-Memoriam tribute? Let us know in the comment section, but first watch the segment.

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AMC Alum Sarah Michelle Gellar Reflecting on Her Time on Soaps: “Anything I Can Do to Continue the Legacy I’m Very Proud Of”

Daytime fans knew of Sarah Michelle Gellar her way before her Buffy the Vampire Slayer days, when she stepped on to the small screen as Erica’s (Susan Lucci) troubled daughter Kendall Hart on ABC’s All My Children. 

Gellar played the role from 1993 to 1995, and made a brief return in 2011 as the show came to its conclusion on ABC. Additionally, Sarah won a Daytime Emmy for her performance in the Outstanding Younger Actress category in 1995.

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Sarah has partnered with Lysol for their brand’s Disinfecting Wipes “Buy One, Donate One” program. where now through September 26, whenever a pack of Lysol Disinfecting Wipes is purchased, another pack will automatically be donated to an under-resourced school through the Kids In Need Foundation.

The program is aimed to help curb the spread of illness-causing germs in schools this back-to-school season, a total of up to 16 million packs of Lysol Disinfecting Wipes will be donated to Title I schools across the country.

The program is the latest component of Lysol’s HERE for Healthy Schools initiative. Started in 2019 with the mission to help curb the spread of preventable illness and to help kids miss less school so they are able to learn, grow and thrive, HERE for Healthy Schools has provided educational materials for students and Lysol disinfecting supplies for educators and administrators to more than 49,000 schools across the country. This year, HERE for Healthy Schools is focused on helping to protect children, educators and parents as they make their big return to in-person learning in light of the COVID-19 pandemic.

Speaking with TV Insider on the partnership, Gellar recalled her time on the soaps and how it changed her career and outlook, noting: “it was the training ground for the rest of my career.”

She went on to say: “I made incredible friends at that time and I learned incredible work habits, and soap operas are an intense amount of work, and I’m incredibly grateful for that time and the people that I met.  We live in a world now where my kids don’t even really know what a soap opera is, so anything I can do to continue the legacy I’m very proud of.”

So, do you remember Sarah’s time on AMC? What do you think of her thoughts on her time on the soaps? Comment below.

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‘Dynasty’ and ‘All My Children’ Co-Stars React to the Death of Michael Nader

UPDATED: Yesterday, Michael Fairman TV broke the news of the passing of Michael Nader (Ex-Dex, Dynasty and Dimitri, All My Children).  As reported, Michael died on Monday morning of an untreatable form of cancer at his home in Northern California with his wife, Jodi, and his beloved dog, Storm by his side.

Since then, several of Nader’s former Dynasty and All My Children co-stars have taken to social media with their reactions and remembrances after having learned that he has no longer with us.

From his leading ladies, Joan Collins and Susan Lucci, to Emma Samms and John James, Eva LaRue, Finola Hughes, Maxwell Caufield, Vincent Irizarry and more, so many are taking a moment to share their grief and outpouring of love for Michael.

Michael Fairman TV will continue to update this post throughout the day as more remembrances are posted.

Here are what several of Nader’s former co-stars and colleagues shared below:

Susan Lucci (Ex-Erica, All My Children):”MICHAEL NADER—so handsome, so talented—so wonderful and beloved as All My Children’s DIMITRI MARICK—and a great love of “Erica Kane”. I am so lucky to have played opposite Michael—playing some of the most romantic scenes ever—dancing in palaces in Budapest, our gorgeous Greek Orthodox wedding, complete with crowns. Michael was a doll to work with and to know.  RIP, Michael💙💙💙🙏🙏🙏”

Joan Collins (Ex-Alexis, Dynasty): “Very sad to hear of the death of my onscreen husband and lover #michaelnader aka #dexdexter – I loved working with him and his character was a wonderful mixture of tough and tender. #alexis was crazy to keep on rejecting him! #rip #ripmichaelnader”

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Emma Samms (Ex-Fallon, Dynasty): “Incredibly sad news about Michael Nader. What a blessing it was to have had his participation and support for our Dynasty Reunion fundraiser back in March. Thinking of his wife Jodi and sending condolences to all of his many fans.”

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John James (Ex-Jeff, Dynasty): “I’m so sad to hear, that my dear friend Michael Nader passed away. We shared some great laughs together and I will miss miss you buddy. Sending prayers to the family.”

Finola Hughes (Ex-Alex, All My Children): “Oh #michaelnader sweet man. I worked with him so briefly, but he cared about his craft and his fellow actors. Sending much love and condolences to his family ❤️”

Eva LaRue (Ex-Maria, All My Children): “So heartbreaking to hear about the passing of Michael Nader! The sweetest man, with the best stories and the funniest out takes! Thank you for the endless belly laughs around that Wildwind dining table at #AMC ! You will be remembered with so much Love!😢♥️ All my prayers and sympathy to his family🙏🏼♥️ Rest peacefully sweet man♥️”

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Cady McClain (Ex-Dixie, All My Children): “Michael was always a joy to work with, and one of the funniest human beings I ever met. I feel so blessed to have crossed his path and been able to watch him work his magic. I know he felt the love and appreciation of his colleagues and I’m grateful our discussions were always deep or kind. #RIP #michaelnader Photo by @stevenbergman29 💕 (note his book and bookmark! Only Michael would carry it on the res carpet. 😂)”

Maxwell Caufield (Ex-Miles, Dynasty): “That #MichaelNader in the arena many seasons with both @Joancollinsdbe and #SusanLucci – quel hombre.”

Dondre T. Whitfield (Ex-Terrence, All My Children), who commented on Eva LaRue’s post: “Wow. Haven’t seen him in years. So sad to see the Brother. He was very mice to me during my “Pine Valley” time. RIP Nader.”

Vincent Irizarry (Ex-David, All My Children), who commented on Eva LaRue’s post: “OMG, my heart is breaking!!! Loved dear Michael, working opposite him in both “Pine Valley” and in Jackie Collins’ ‘Lucky Chances’. So so sad to hear of his passing. Yes @evalarue, the sweetest man, and ABSOLUTELY the funniest outtakes…”

Sean Kanan: (Ex-AJ, GH, Deacon, B&B) “I was so sorry to hear that Michael Nader passed away. He and I played father and son in Perry Mason: The Case of the Maligned Mobster. We spent some time together and he was a very authentic person. My sincerest condolences to his family. RIP Michael.”

Share your thoughts and remembrances of these wonderful co-stars with Michael throughout his years on Dynasty and All My Children via the comment section below.

 

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