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OWN's Summer Fling with All My Children & One Life to Live Ratings Revealed! What is Your Take On the Numbers?

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Oprah Winfrey’s OWN cable network announced its Summer Fling with the Soaps a few weeks ago and thus All My Children and One Life to Live found a television home for the first time after being axed by ABC a few years back!  On OWN, the first 40 episodes of the revival of both series from TOLN, starting with episode #1, are being broadcast.

So just how did the first week of episodes do  on OWN? Well, we have published the numbers below released by TV Media Insights for the week of July 15th -19th.

Check them out and let us know what you feel about the numbers? Do you think the shows are performing well? Under performing in the cable landscape afternoon in which it is in? Or, do you think it would help if more fans of both shows tuned in to watch episodes they may have seen before? Goal of course is: for OWN to want to carry more new episodes of All My Children and One Life to Live in the future, after this ten week exclusive TV deal!

Asterisk (*) indicates new episode to OWN

ALL MY CHILDREN

* Mon July 15 12:30PM 0.1 HH, 144,000 total viewers
* Mon July 15 12:30PM 0.0 HH, 154,000 total viewers
* Mon July 15 1:00PM 0.1 HH, 152,000 total viewers
Mon July 15 1:30PM 0.1 HH, 129,000 total viewers

Tue July 16 12:00PM 0.1 HH, 101,000 total viewers
Tue July 16 12:30PM 0.0 HH, 38,000 total viewers
* Tue July 16 1:00PM 0.1 HH, 84,000 total viewers
Tue July 16 1:30PM 0.1 HH, 61,000 total viewers

Wed July 17 12:00PM 0.1 HH, 66,000 total viewers
Wed July 17 12:30PM 0.0 HH, 24,000 total viewers
* Wed July 17 1:00PM 0.1 HH, 73,000 total viewers
Wed July 17 1:30PM 0.0 HH, 40,000 total viewers

Thu July 18 12:00PM 0.1 HH, 52,000 total viewers
Thu July 18 12:30PM 0.0 HH, 46,000 total viewers
* Thu July 18 1:00PM 0.1 HH, 138,000 total viewers
Thu July 18 1:30PM 0.1 HH, 62,000 total viewers

Fri July 19 12:00PM 0.1 HH, 78,000 total viewers
Fri July 19 12:30PM 0.0 HH, 54,000 total viewers
Fri July 19 1:00PM 0.1 HH, 105,000 total viewers
Fri July 19 1:30PM 0.1 HH, 106,000 total viewers

ONE LIFE TO LIVE

* Mon July 15 2:00PM 0.1 HH, 123,000 total viewers
* Mon July 15 2:30PM 0.1 HH, 102,000 total viewers
* Mon July 15 3:00PM 0.1 HH, 103,000 total viewers
Mon July 15 3:30PM 0.1 HH, 66,000 total viewers

Tue July 16 2:00PM 0.1 HH, 55,000 total viewers
Tue July 16 2:30PM 0.1 HH, 54,000 total viewers
* Tue July 16 3:00PM 0.1 HH, 66,000 total viewers
Tue July 16 3:30PM 0.0 HH, 38,000 total viewers

Wed July 17 2:00PM 0.0 HH, 18,000 total viewers
Wed July 17 2:30PM 0.0 HH, 47,000 total viewers
* Wed July 17 3:00PM 0.1 HH, 136,000 total viewers
Wed July 17 3:30PM 0.1 HH, 109,000 total viewers

Thu July 18 2:00PM 0.0 HH, 32,000 total viewers
Thu July 18 2:30PM 0.0 HH, 26,000 total viewers
* Thu July 18 3:00PM 0.1 HH, 150,000 total viewers
Thu July 18 3:30PM 0.0 HH, 44,000 total viewers

Fri July 19 2:00PM 0.0 HH, 50,000 total viewers
Fri July 19 2:30PM 0.0 HH, 25,000 total viewers
Fri July 19 3:00PM 0.1 HH, 93,000 total viewers
Fri July 19 3:30PM 0.1 HH, 118,000 total viewers

Comparative data from previous weeks on OWN
July 8-12, 2013 12-2 PM: 84,800 viewers
July 8-12, 2013 3-4 PM: 145,200 viewers

June 25-29, 2013 12-2 PM (includes movie on June 27 12-2:30 PM): 106,800 viewers
June 25-29, 2013 3-4 PM (includes program on June 29 2:30-3:30 PM: 113,200 viewers


HH: Household rating. A 1.0 household rating is equivalent to 1 percent of all U.S. T.V. households.
All Times Eastern & Pacific
Source: Nielsen Media Research

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Sharon
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Sharon

Other than the initial promotion when the shows were first announced, neither OWN nor Oprah have done ANY advertising of the shows. Not on Facebook or Twitter. So anyone who finds out that the two shows are on OWN are finding out from other soap fans and soap sites or by pure luck. What a shame that neither OWN nor Oprah could be bothered to promote them once they got them!!!

Rodd
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Rodd

I don’t claim to totally understand ratings, but I think (hope) the ratings are respectable for what they are. A lot, if not most, fans of AMC and OLTL have already watched these shows on Hulu or another device; thus they are repeats to many. I think there would be a significant jump in the ratings if they had been first-run shows. All in all, they did OWN a good bump up.

Annie
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Annie

I have been watching OWN, but have been a loyal OLTL fan on Hulu+ since April 29th. These numbers only track Nielsen viewers, correct?

Robert in Jersey City
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Robert in Jersey City

does this mean we’re doing as good as when it was on ABC?

Robert in New Orleans
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Robert in New Orleans

GH has on average a little over 2,000,000 viewers per day. Keep in mind this is on cable and most fans have already watched the first run of these episodes on the net.

Tali
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Tali

When OL was on ABC it pulled the most views, which I believe were 2.1 – 2.3 million. It was better than GH at the time of cancellation!

Barbara Weaver
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Barbara Weaver

These soaps should be on abc. I don’t think Oprah has it.

Karen
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Karen

It’s all well & good that Oprah has done this & I think that its a good thing..but its not available on the OWN network in Canada, so Tell me how is that fair to Canadians, who already have a tough time getting online content from some networks?…just sayin’..

lisa
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lisa

I`m with you on this one Karen….I was so excited when FX Canada was carrying the shows – then the ball dropped when that was cancelled because they changed the viewing of AMC and OLTL . I wasn`t about to pay a hundred dollars to iTunes Canada for 50 shows either. Then came the news that Oprah was going to run the first 40 episodes of each show on her network…..but not Canada. As a fan I feel ripped off and repeatedly smacked in the face. At least I can still see Roger Howarth on GH albeit not as Todd.… Read more »

JeffyJC
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JeffyJC

As I understand it one of the problem the IATSE union had was that it was airing on FX Canada. The claimed that violated the contract the union had with them. If that is true then that would be the reason why it is not in Canada. I don’t know when they will be able to broadcast internationally.

Rose C
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Rose C

I think it is wonderful that it is on OWN television, and more fans have acess to the show. I am watching it on the computer, only because I already saw the other episodes, and don’ t care for repeats nor do I want to miss the new ones. But happy for others, and will watch where ever I have to to get my “fix” of OLTL and AMC 🙂

Tali
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Tali

Disappointed with the numbers. I do understand that you have to be signed up with Nielsen ratings for the numbers to count. I am NOT and surely there are a lot like me. I’ve already watched them on hulu, but watching them again. Just another nail in ABC’s coffin for me, they should of never canceled them!!!

MC
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MC

If you go by only the new episodes then it’s not so bad. 110K for AMC/109K for OLTL. But once you start factoring in the other episodes totals go down to 85K for AMC & 73K for OLTL. Any way you slice it, OLTL is losing viewers in the timeslot for the network. AMC is doing better or the same as the previous week. I guess the question would be how many new viewers did the shows attract to the network? If by airing the shows OWN could increase their reach, that would be an added value to to the… Read more »

Kiki
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Kiki

One Life is not losing viewers, it is doing great on hulu, and is an AWESOME show, better that it was on ABC.

MC
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MC

No one is saying that OLTL is a bad show. I was just going by the numbers published. When you take the average, it is less than what they reported for the week before. I don’t have access to anything other than what was in the article, and then I did the math.

I love OLTL. Liked on ABC & like it online. Like it on OWN.

Vanessa
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Vanessa

I think the rating for both shows need some improvement. However, I don’t think these ratings include the people who DVR it and watch later. I am curious to see how they would do with a show that people haven’t already seen.

moshane58
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moshane58

What I read last week is they are the same as the show on before they put the soaps on.So all us soap fans who are tuning in didn’t raise rating at all…HUM…I know I never watch OWN beofre the soaps and so is alot watching that didn’t before.Where are we at in the ratings.Another thing TOLN and Oprah needs to pay for advertising on networks where people watch soaps.Alot still have no clue these soaps are back.We can’t do much more on the internet trying to get the word out.We don’t have the means to advertise them.Some people said… Read more »

Johnny
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Johnny

I think that many people just don’t receive OPRAH’s network – I already pay for HULU Plus just to watch AMC and OLTL – both of which by the way are not up to par to what they were on abc-tv.
ABC-TV should be ashamed at what they did to these two iconic soaps.
If there is any justice abc should re-insert the shows into their afternoon schedule.

boes
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boes

One thing is immediately clear. When it’s a “new ” episode, the numbers go up – for both shows.
An older acquaintance of mine is watching on OWN and got confused by the repeat episodes each week. Now she watches, but only the new ones. I don’ think there are very many people out there who have either the interest or the time to watch very many repeat episodes – either on OWN or online.

rebecca2
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rebecca2

I think A) a lot of people need to pay to get her station and B) many won’t watch her station because of her original attitude.

Maybe if she actuallly apologized for her original condescending refusal…..instead of acting like she’s come to some great realization and is “listening” to the fans like she’s doing them a favor…more people would tune in and it would be a win/win. Although of course the apology would be insincere but at least make ti instead of acdting like you’re “hearing” the fans.

Johnny
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Johnny

I know, it’s true, I can’t stand when she screams out ” WE HEARD you!” like she’s Santa Claus in a dress ~ I dislike the fact that she tries to come across like the giant Savior of Soaps.

rebecca2
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rebecca2

LOL. agree!

Soapy
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Soapy

SHE IS!

su0000
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su0000

Considering the soaps are reruns, it is doing very well..
Most people do not watch a rerun when they already know the outcome..

The biggest mistake;
Putting them back on daytime air times ..

PP should have dealt to air them during the evening 9pm`ish

People are not home nor have the time for daytime tv..

Only the Retired, Disabled, Mothers on assistant and Millionaires are home during the day to watch daytime tv..

((daytime watching is what is helping kill the soaps, people are not home))

rebecca2
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rebecca2

PP doesn’t need to put them on at night. You can watch them on Hulu round the clock. There’s no set time.

Nancy
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Nancy

Thank you. That is exactly when I can watch, after 7:00 pm or between 4:30 to 5:00 am before I go to work. I had always picked the shows up on Soap Network in the evening.

Jody
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Jody

Ditto….totally agree…..there is a reason that there are only 4 left on network; daytime viewership has dwindled

JeffyJC
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JeffyJC

Yes did not make sense to me. If they started them at 3pm even they would not be competing against another soap.

Linda
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Linda

I don’t know if the ratings are just based on Nielsen boxes alone or if other factors are used as well. Most people have already watched these episodes AMC & OLTL online or on iTunes. While others watch Y&R, B&B and Days during the 12:30-2:00 time frame. Also there are those who still don’t know AMC & OLTL are on OWN. It would be nice if OWN advertised the soaps more and if Oprah had said yes back in 2011!!

Dani
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Dani

Are these good or bad? Someone please clarify.
Either way, it was me who had to tell my mother in law about it being on OWN and she even gets Soap Opera Digest. My news came from Michael and FB.
I think some promos are needed asap.

Susan
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Susan

I have a lot to catch up on Hulu. After the first 3 weeks I got lazy. I can’t help it I like watching on tv. As soon as the episodes I haven’t seen come on, I will be watching on OWN

Kat
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Kat

My cable company does not offer OWN on HD so the video quality is not good on my HD TV. The audio isn’t great either. Plus, I’ve already seen all the episodes on Hulu so am less inclined to watch the repeats on OWN. If OWN was in HD and the shows were first runs, I would DVR them and watch at night when I get home from work. I’ll bet a lot of people have a similar situation.

Angela
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Angela

I was happy the shows were being broadcast on OWN because I fell behind and I really didn’t like watching on my laptop. However, I do not understand how they are showing the past episodes. The first week I must have seen the same one episode 4 times! I don’t know if someone has goofed I just don’t understand why they keep repeating the same episodes over and over. Can anyone explain this to me? I would really appreciate it.

David
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David

Angela the new episodes of AMC are on at 1PM EST and repeated at 1:30pm EST

The New episodes of OLTL are on at 3pm EST and repeated at 3:30pm EST.

All other episodes aired at other times are repeats

Lisa M.
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Lisa M.

Well I have checked out the numbers and honestly I don’t know if they are good, bad or fair. I watch all new episodes on huluplus every Monday and have no desire to watch them again but I encourage everyone who has not seen them to support OWN. We all know that Oprah is continuously trying to get her numbers up and with the help of her good friend Tyler Perry, Iyana Vizant and so many more it is happening. So if we can put how we feel about Oprah behind us and move forward and support AMC & OLTL… Read more »

kathyj
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kathyj

wow i thought the ratings would be much better just wish thy would not have the repeats from the days before

Nick
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Nick

Folks, no matter how you slice and dice these numbers, they are just not good even for a cable channel like OWN, compared to what aired there before. That can’t bode too well for PP’s plan to find a regular TV home for the soaps after they are produced for the Internet. I realize that lack of advertising could be an issue, as well as confusion as to the order of episodes in each half hour, not to mention that some people may have seen the episodes already. But you really do have to wonder just how many mainstream people… Read more »

Kelly
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Kelly

I agree with you Nick. These #s do not bode well. They overall lower than what was being shown before on OWN. Given this, I doublt OWN will want to keep running these shows or even have these “fling” specials. And I’m afraid other cable outlets will be looking at these # and figure that if Oprah can’t get them to work, why even bother. I’m just hoping that PP can still continue producing them online after the initial year since they were hoping to offset some of the production cost by airing these shows somewhere. Not good news at… Read more »

Michael
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Michael

Well, prior to their cancellations, I believe that All My Kids pulled in just under two million viewers, with One Life close to the same. I watch One Life on Hulu Plus (on my ipad), but I’m glad to see the shows on OWN. There has been zero publicity for the OWN experiment. It is important to note that the above ratings only reflect the cable TV viewers, and are not inclusive of Hulu and Itunes. One Life rocks- I h ope they get more viewers on OWN, before Oprah pulls t he plug on the ‘summer fling’.

su0000
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su0000

The only viewers that count are the ones watching via HuLu, pay or free, for the ”new” episodes.
the reruns on Oprah are just another way for people who have fallen off or behind to catch up..
Our soaps will remain on HuLu, until they die.. And the viewers on HuLu will be the numbers that, that we do not see and never will see, but they exist, are the ones that count/mater.
Reruns are not the numbers that hold any real importance for PP only for Oprah ..

This is for 10 weeks, only..
If that would change, it is still reruns..

Laura
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Laura

I’m glad OWN is showing AMC because i just am not into watching it on my computer, but why is OWN showing the same episodes over and over? They repeated the same episode back-to-back – yawn. Why show 4 episodes per day if half are repeats of the ones you just showed? Still, I’m happy it’s on tv, but show more episodes without repeats.

Cher
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Cher

Does this count any that were DVR’d? Had issues with DVR, and only got the first episode of the day. I have since changed that.

su0000
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su0000

It makes no difference how many watch the ”reruns” on OWN/Oprah.. It is only the new episodes on HuLu that count.. Reruns are a whole different thing.. They do Oprah good for her network OWN, and hopefully PP will get some new viewers from OWN airing reruns.. PP wants to air the reruns so the people who are behind can catch up and to hopefully get some new viewers, also. The mistake PP made was airing the soaps during the daytime when there way fewer viewers than they could get during the evening. The network soaps are going down because… Read more »

Char
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Char

I don’t have cable. It makes no sense for me, so I can’t participate. Many of us watch programs on iPad, from iTunes. I mean, I watch cable shows, but I buy them. Like Walking Dead, DowntonAbbey etc. Cable does not represent those of us who are more par4ticular about our choices and don’t buy cable “just in the off chance” I use it.

Lawrence
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Lawrence

Serves oprah right with these ratings. thats what she gets trying to profit off reruns.

d.w. mckim (Mupp Freek)
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d.w. mckim (Mupp Freek)

I’d consider these good numbers. If anyone was expecting network-comparable numbers, they’d be bound to be disappointed. But both PP & OWN would have more realistic expectations: — They’re on daytime cable — They’re on a station that’s in most places, a higher-tiered cable station, not part of the most basic cable package in most areas. — These had all been previously available online. There may be a few viewers here and there that had already seen them online tuning in to support the tv airings but these viewers largely represent those who hadn’t seen them online previously. So these… Read more »

Brett
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Brett

These figures don’t look that great, but we really need to take a few things into account when analysing these figures: 1 A lot of people do not get OWN 2 The episodes are shown several times so we need to add up the ratings for each screening to get a true picture (I don’t know why they show them so many times) 3 Even before the first screening on OWN, they are in essence re-runs, as most fans have already watched them online. As loyal as some people want to be, not every one has time to watch episodes… Read more »

Lisa Z.
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Lisa Z.

It is difficult to get a true reading on these statistics. All of these episodes are reruns. Each episode is shown on OWN more than once. The schedule would be somewhat confusing for the casual viewer of OLTL. First an OWN rerun is shown then a “new” episode, and then a rerun of that “new” episode (I think). On my Time Warner cable guide, the description of the OLTL did not match the episode when I watched it. One day it said that a “MORE” episode was being shown, and that was incorrect. I boycotted OWN after Oprah made those… Read more »

kcphilly
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kcphilly

The “new” episodes seem to be doing decently. I don’t get why they are rerun so much unless she is trying to fill up airtime cheaply. In response to a comment I saw above about putting the shows on at night, I believe the person was talking about OWN putting them on at night, not the hulu because of course those are “anytime” viewing. That’s not PP’s issue though. That’s whoever does programming at OWN. I wish they would just do the “new” episodes during the week and then a marathon of each weeks episodes on the weekend like soapnet… Read more »

Mike
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Mike

No only what they have done to our OLTL on ABC but GL on CBS and the other soaps they have cancelled.. It is so sad! Thank you PP for getting this online and it keeps getting better everyday. OWN should have step up when all the Soaps were starting to be drop by our dear network execs.!!!!! A day late and a dollar short!

OLTLfan
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OLTLfan

I am not really well versed in reading what the numbers mean but if these are considered mediocre, then there are factors involved. Number one, these are reruns so for that many to be watching reruns may not necessarily be a bad thing. Second, many folks who have watched them on Hulu are not watching so their numbers are not added in. Third, many cable providers may not carry OWN depending on where you live. So all of those things can play a part, but that is just my take. If fans are not watching due to being angry with… Read more »

brian
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brian

Please Please Please understand that to most OLTL / AMC fans, these are REPEATS !!!

Hopefully they continue on OWN once new epsodes air. Then we will see the true ratings.

Tasha Jones
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Tasha Jones

I looked on owns website and my tv schedule and these shows are not listed? What has happened? Is it because I am in Canada? Help..lol

Sam Raven
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Sam Raven

If the soaps run new shows every day stop running them on Hulu while they are on OWN we might see a spike in viewership. Who will watch a show on tv that they have already seen on the internet? Also more promotion of the shows should bring in an audience of about 500,000 which would be nice and move on from there. People will watch both soaps even on OWN because of loyalty, they need to get rid of the reruns.

All My Children

‘Strahan, Sara and Keke’ Canceled by ABC; Show Aired In Timeslot That Once Housed ‘All My Children’

No matter a network tries to do, replacing All My Children, which ran for 41 years on ABC has remained as everyone that follows the world of daytime drama knows, problematic.  Now come word via Page Six that Strahan, Sara and Keke has been canceled.

The show hosted by Michael Strahan, Sara Haines and Keke Palmer if you recall, replaced the foodie show, The Chew which ran for seven seasons and was the first show to air in the timeslot that belonged for over four decades to All My Children. 

Back in March of this year, Strahan, Sara and Keke took a break to make way for ABC’s News  Pandemic: What You Need to Know, a daily coronavirus report anchored by Amy Robach, Dr. Jen Ashton and sometimes TJ Holmes.

However, because the show did well in that two-week experimental run it morphed into GMA 3: What You Need to Know.  The new version of the show also talked about hot topics in the current news cycle, as well.

ABC’s Catherine McKenzie began producing the “GMA3” show four months ago and the network officially announced her as Executive Producer of the program on Thursday.

While ABC has yet to officially announce Strahan, Sara and Keke is over, a spokesperson told Page Six: “We’re proud of our teams at ‘SSK’ and ‘GMA3’ and how quickly they transitioned to producing a daily show to give people the news and information they need during an unprecedented pandemic, and conversations continue about how the show will evolve in the months ahead.”

It appears that Strahan, Sara and Keke won’t be returning; the future as many of their staff have transitioned over to ‘GMA 3’ with producers from ABC News Live, (the streaming division), helmed by McKenzie.

As for the futures of Strahan, Haines and Palmer; Strahan will continues to host Good Morning America, and they are all actively under contract with the network.

So, what do you think of  ‘Strahan, Sara and Kek’e being replaced by ‘GMA 3: What You  Need to Know’?  How long do you think that show will last in the timeslot once taken up by residents of Pine Valley? Comment below.

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Eva LaRue Talks On Her Daytime Emmy Nomination, And Opens Up About The Loss Of John Callahan

For Eva LaRue, the past two months have been some of the most emotionally gut-wrenching and challenging of her life, following the passing of her ex-husband, father of her child, and dearest friend, John Callahan (Ex-Edmund, All My Children). The outpouring of support she has received not only from her former AMC cast mates, but the soap world in general illustrates just how dear Eva is to all of us, and how many people had special memories of their time with John.

While mourning the loss of Callahan along with their daughter, Kaya, there was some heartwarming and re-affirming news that any actress would love to hear. Eva was nominated for a Daytime Emmy in the Outstanding Guest Performer in a Drama Series for her work as Celeste Rosales on CBS’ The Young and the Restless, and she is great company as her former AMC co-star Michael E. Knight (Ex-Tad) is also nominated along with her for his work on General Hospital.

The coronavirus pandemic has hit our country and world hard, but through it All My Children virtual reunions emerged as fans were engaged by the content, transported to happier times that brought them back to familiar faces in Pine Valley in which Eva participated along with her good friends, Kelly Ripa, Mark Consuelos and so many more, thanks to the EW. com weeklong event which concluded on Friday.

Michael Fairman TV talked with Eva in this very candid, at times heartbreaking, and open conversation where she shares details into the final days of her beloved John, her last moments with him, and how she tried to plan a memorial in his honor during the COVID-19 pandemic.

For so many of us, 2020 has certainly seen more lows then highs, but in the end for Eva, to receive a nomination now (an award she was last nominated for back in 1997 as Outstanding Supporting Actress in a Drama Series for her work as Dr Maria Santos on All My Children) couldn’t have come at a better time. Here now is our conversation with Eva.

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I’ve been thinking so much about you.  I’m glad we could do this, and in the midst of the tragedy of losing John Callahan, and then receiving a Daytime Emmy nomination.  What was your reaction when you learned you were nominated in a category with none other than your former AMC castmate and good friend, Michael E. Knight (Ex-Tad, AMC, now Martin, GH)?

EVA:  Oh, I know!  He’s the first person I texted!  I was like, “Congratulations, Michael!  Did you ever in a million years think that you and I would be in the same category of anything?”  Then I said, “And when you win this, can I just borrow it for the weekend just to dress it up and take pictures with it… just want to borrow it, just babysit the trophy for a weekend, please?” (Laughs)

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What did you end up submitting that landed you the nomination for your role as Celeste on Y&R?

EVA: I submitted a scene with Peter Bergman (Jack, Y&R), who I have been friends for 30 years, if not more, and in all that time we had never worked together.  I met him when I was married to John O’Hurley (Ex- Dr. James Grainger) because John was over at The Young and the Restless at the time.  I went to a Christmas party with John to Peter and Mariellen’s house, and do you know who else was there?  Lisa Rinna (Ex-Billie, Days), and it was before she had gotten Days of Our Lives. She was dating Peter Barton (Ex-Scott Grainger, Y&R) at the time. We both ended up on soaps at the same time.  So, I submitted a scene with Peter, who is amazing, warm and open and such a great actor. Then I submitted a scene with my on-screen daughter Sasha Calle (Lola, Y&R) – I love that girl, and another one with Michelle Stafford (Phyllis, Y&R) who has also been my great friend for a couple of decades. The other scene I put on my reel was with me and Jordi Vilasuso (Rey, Y&R) who I also adore.  He is awesome and such a sweetheart.  I only had two months worth of material to draw upon.  So, I just submitted the scenes that I liked the best, and they all were within story, and all made sense.

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Where is Celeste supposed to be now?

EVA:  She went back to Florida, and that was that. I would never say never to anything, but it was always supposed to be a short stint, and it was great.

So not only is it you and Michael E. Knight, but Jeffery Vincent Parise, Chrishell Stause, and Elissa Kapneck. This Guest Performer category is loaded!

EVA:  I know! I know and love, Chrishell (Ex-Amanda) because we worked together on All My Children, too, right before I left, and she is a doll.  She just might be the sweetest, kindest, girl on the planet.  She literally might be the sweetest person who ever lived!  I don’t know the other two nominees personally.  So, I’m excited for them too.  It’s such a diverse category.  It’s just really fun to be nominated with all of them.

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You were nominated before, though, for your work as Maria on All My Chldren during the emotional baby switch storyline; working opposite Susan Lucci (Ex-Erica) for a lot in it.

EVA:  Yes.  I was nominated for Best Supporting Actress for All My Children, and I was nominated for Best Original Song.  I wrote a song when Maria came ‘back from the dead’ to All My Children, with a producer friend of mine from Miami Sound Machine.

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So, you’ve been doing all of these All My Children virtual reunions, which is so interesting that in this pandemic, people are looking for content, and they dip back into these beloved shows.  Was it fun doing the EW.com Santos Family reunion with everybody?

EVA:  Oh yeah, it was really, really fun.  I only saw in the big picture everybody else’s photo who was a part of it, and the people who I actually do hang out with the most, and see the most, and talk to the most, are Kelly Ripa (Ex-Hayley), Mark Consuelos (Ex-Mateo), and Sydney Penny (Ex-Julia).  I don’t see Sydney as much, but I do see her probably once every two years at least, but Sarah Michelle Geller (ExKendall) I see all the time and talk to all the time.  Kelly, Mark, and Sarah are the ones who walked me through that first week when John Callahan passed.  They literally were on the phone with me, the three of them, almost every day, but I got beautiful outreach, from what seemed like everyone.  This is when no matter how many years have passed since you have been in daytime, that the daytime family as a group – there used to be fifteen shows, now there are four – and people have bounced around and they are on other shows- – but the entire soap opera community reached out,   I cannot even tell you how much that meant to me.  It was overwhelming, and it was really, spectacularly beautiful.

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I hope it was some solace to you knowing how much people loved John, and also that they love and care so deeply for you.

EVA:  I mean, people who did not even work with John reached out.  Every soap was represented by getting a hold of me, sending a text or a phone call, or if they didn’t have my personal information, they tweeted, or whatever it was… literally from every reach of soapdom.  It was amazing.

And your relationship with John was amazing with all of the ups and downs you went through; that you remained such dear friends.

EVA:  We remained really great friends all the way.

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I so remember when the two of you first got together and it was this storybook real life soap couple romance.  John was always so sweet to me.  I was so, so sad, and you know, my heart just broke for you.

EVA:  I think it was just such a shock.  I don’t think anybody, and even Kaya were talking about it, because she graduated this week, and her dad is not here.  We’re not having a graduation, because of COVID-19, which sucks on top of it, but we were just kind of talking through the feelings of it.  She said, “You know what’s weird?  I guess I never pictured dad getting old, and I always wondered why, and now I know.”  When I would get on John about his heart or his health, he used to always say, ‘Oh, don’t worry Evala, (he always called me “Evala”).  I’m going to be here.  I’m going to be here a long time.  I’m fine.  I’m going to be here to walk Kaya down the aisle and see her kids and all that.  Stop worrying,” Every time he said it to me, something in my gut said, “I don’t think he is.  I don’t think he is,” but I always just dismissed that.  But never in my wildest dreams did I think John wouldn’t make it to her high school graduation.  He was only 66.

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I had heard you ended up running to Palm Springs to be near John.  I can’t even imagine what that must have been like.

EVA:  The only good thing about this pandemic is that we had been shut down for only two weeks at that point.  Kaya and I got in the car.  John had some heart procedures the day before, on a Thursday.  I called him in the morning before he went in for the procedure.  I said, “Call me as soon as you get out of there.  Call me as soon as you come-to again, and you’re good,” and he said, “Okay, I will.”  I said, “I’m going to send Kaya out to you on Friday for the weekend, just so you have somebody to hang out and watch you, and I might come out too,” And then, I said, “Maybe, I’ll come down too in case you are feeling weak, just to watch out for you for the weekend.”   So, he called me after the procedure.   I said, “I cannot believe they sent you home! You just had some major heart stuff done.”  He said, “Oh no, they said I’m fine.  It was just run-of-the-mill heart stuff, angiogram…”  I was like, “Are you sure?”  He said, “Yeah, I’m fine.  I’m just tired.  I’m going to go to sleep.”  I said, “Do you want me to send Kaya out tonight?” and he was like, “No, no, no.  Send her tomorrow.”  So, in the morning, I called him at 9:00am.  No answer.  I texted him.  He always texted me like Johnny on the spot, and then texts me immediately back.  So, I call him again at 10.  Nothing.  His best friend calls me about a half-hour later, “Hey, I talked to John at about 8:00 this morning.  He said he was feeling really, really shitty and was going to go back to the hospital, and then, I texted him again at like 8:30 to just tell him something, and he hasn’t texted me back, and he always texts me immediately back.”  I said, “Oh my, God, I’ve been trying to get a hold of him for two hours; he hasn’t texted me back,”   I said, “You know what, I’ll call you back.”  So, I called his friend who lives down the street from John, and I said, “Go to his house, please right this second, knock on the door, jump the fence, knock on his bedroom, he might be asleep, I don’t know.”  So, he gets there, nobody is answering.  I said, “Break into the house please.  So, he did, and John was collapsed in the bathroom.  They called the paramedics, and as soon as they called me back and said, “John is unresponsive in the bathroom,” Kaya and I threw everything in the car, and what usually takes us two and a half hours without traffic, we made it down there from Los Angeles in an hour and forty-five minutes.

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I don’t know how you made it down there in one piece. Thank, God!

EVA:  I drove so fast, like literally broke all land speed records and thank God because we got there just in time.  He was in emergency.  He hadn’t been put up in ICU yet, where we wouldn’t have been able to see him.  They weren’t going to let us in the hospital.  Thank God the person answering the door was an All My Children fan.  She was the one saying, “Sorry, no one is allowed in the hospital, no one can come in,” and I was like, “No, no, no, my ex-husband just came in.”  She said, “Was it Edmund?” and I said, “Yes, it was Edmund!”  She said, “Okay, follow me.”  Thank God for All My Children.  Thank God.  So, we followed this woman secretly, and we get to spend a half-hour with him in Emergency.  He was already on life-support, totally unresponsive, but we got to play John his favorite music, we got to just sit there and hold his hand and talk to him, and tell him how much we loved him.  Sarah Michelle Gellar called right when we were in the hospital in Emergency, and she said, “Put the phone by his ear,” so I put the phone by his ear, and she talked to John too, and she told him how much she loved him.  She used to always call him “GP”, which was short of grandpa, because she came on the show when she was 15, and she didn’t have a dad, and John acted like a dad to her – but she used to always call him “grandpa”, and he hated “grandpa”, so he was like, “You can call me “GP”, but not grandpa,” so she always called him GP.  I just put the phone by John’s ear, and what was crazy is that when she talked to him, his feet started twitching.  He started moving his feet.  Then, when Kaya was talking to him about Yankee season, he started moving his feet.  We were kind of hopeful that something was changing for the better.  We had about a half-hour with him, and then, they took him up to ICU, and then, we knew we couldn’t see him again.  They called us later that night that he had passed.

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I am just so thankful that you got to see John one last time.

EVA:  I thank God every day that we got to say goodbye, because if we hadn’t gotten there in time to say goodbye, I just don’t know.

It’s very rare that a couple after a divorce, who have a child, and went from romance to dear friends, end up maintaining that relationship so many years later in their lives.  I know so many people who were together at one point in their lives, for years, and they don’t even talk to each other now.

EVA:  Well, you know, like any divorce, the first four years afterwards were super contentious but then, by year five, we kind of had this major breakthrough, and from then on, he was one of my closest friends, and one of the things we always kept alive for each other was we loved to  dance together. We fell in love, I think, dancing because originally our characters on AMC met at this country-western bar, and we had to take country line dancing lessons on the show.  They hired a choreographer for us so that during those scenes where we were falling in love, we would actually be able to do a two-step! So, we went out and practiced at Denim and Diamonds, which was a big country-western place in New York City at the time.  We used to go out with a whole group of us.  It was me, and Teresa Blake (Ex-Gloria) and Kelly Ripa, and her boyfriend at the time, Winsor Harmon (Ex-Del), sometimes Walt Willey (Ex-Jack); we just had a whole crew of us who would go out country dancing.  John and I also loved singing together.  He had the most amazing gravely kind of rockstar voice, but his real talent was harmonizing.  He could harmonize to anything.  So, when he would come over, we would sit in the kitchen and sing, and sing, and sing until the late hours because that’s what we loved to do, and that’s what he loved to do.  That’s one of my favorite last memories of us.  He was just over the month before, and Kaya’s bedroom is near the kitchen, so she came out and was like, “Can you two shut up?”  It was like two in the morning and we were still singing in the kitchen. (Laughs)  John was my dear friend and my confidant.

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Were you able to have some kind of service during this stay-at-home pandemic we are all dealing with, in order to mourn the loss of John?

EVA:  It’s been so crazy.  We couldn’t even have a funeral.  That’s what made it all the more heartbreaking.  There were less than twenty of us, and we just got on a Zoom call and memorialized John.   I thought we were going to do a big Zoom memorial, but it seemed so overwhelming and so impersonal, it just was rubbing us wrong in every way.  Every way we were looking at it, we were like, “Oh my, God, we just can’t.”  We wanted to invite everybody he had ever worked with, and we were like, “No, we want to do that when everything can open back up again, and invite every person, and have a party” because John was always the life of every party.  Maybe we can do that in the fall or next year.  I kept trying to write something for the small memorial we did do for three days.  I kept coming back to this one song, because John was always the consummate bartender, too.  I sang a song that Bette Midler sang on the very last episode of Johnny Carson.  It was “One for My Baby (and One More for the Road)” and it’s about a bartender who has got a big personality and a lot to say.   I changed some of the words around a bit just to reflect who John was, and so, I ended up singing for it instead of speaking.  We always talked about that last episode of Carson; how stunningly emotional it was when Bette sang that song to kind of sing Johnny off for of all of his years on the air.  So, that’s what I did and because we loved to sing together, it just made sense.

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I do think you touched upon something, earlier, too.  I don’t think any other genre would have that kind of unbridled camaraderie.  It’s such a family, like you said.  I don’t think you would find that quite like this; certainly in show business. 

EVA:  I really don’t think you can. Even though there is always a good amount of competition in the soaps as well; between the soaps it’s like they are any sports team, but there is always a level of respect, love, and familial connection within the community.  I think that is why they have stood the test of time.  I really do think that is what hooks our audience, that is what keeps them there after all of these years, even though unfortunately the genre is antiquated looking, there is something about it that is nostalgic, familial, and comfortable for people.

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Every time I talk about All My Children, why do you think everybody go ga-ga for it, when it’s been off the air for several years now?

EVA:  It speaks to people’s childhoods.  It speaks to how we grew up.  You can’t undo nostalgia.  You can’t.  It’s in the way we grew up, the things we loved, the things that we scheduled our lives around, the people we fell in love with on the shows that we watched, who we cared about and loved their storylines. I grew up watching All My Children, General Hospital, and Days of Our Lives.

It must have been a spectacular moment for you when you realized you were actually in Pine Valley and a member of the cast of All My Children then?

EVA:  It was amazing.  I was a fan when I got the show.  I was a straight up fan.  I fangirled walking through that dressing room hallway for the first time! I was trying to keep it in check, but you know … (Laughs)

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So, in closing, you would say, “Thrilled to be nominated”?

EVA:  Yes.  So fun.  It has really been a rollercoaster of a couple of months here.  That nomination was literally the bright, shining spot in all of this.

So, happy to hear Eva is in the running for a Daytime Emmy? Were you moved by Eva’s sentiments she shared on her relationship with the late John Callahan? Do you miss Pine Valley’s Dr. Maria Santos? Share your thoughts in the comment section below.

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It’s a big finale of the weeklong virtual celebration of the iconic All My Children.  On tap today in EW’s series to benefit Feeding America during the COVID-19, some major names from the history of Pine Valley and who had story with each other participating in the chat, premiering at 10 a. m. EST.

Taking part in the walk down memory lane are none other than Josh Duhamel (Ex-Leo), Ricky Paull Goldin (Ex-Jake), Chrishell Stause (Ex-Amanda), Cameron Mathison (Ex-Ryan), Rebecca Budig (Ex-Greenelee) and Melissa Claire Egan (Ex-Annie).

But that’s not all folks! Daytime Emmy winner, Debbi Morgan will participate in a live virtual chat with EW.com today beginning at 3 p.m. EST/12 p. m. PST.  Now will be your chance to hear from the one and only Angie Hubbard from the beloved ABC daytime drama series.

Over the week, EW.com has posted other virtual conversations with notables from Pine Valley, you can check them out here.

So, will you be checking out today’s one-two punch of AMC favorites? Comment below.

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