Laverne 100 %

I will grant that I am perhaps a tad naive. I always try to see the good in people. I used to VDR THE VIEW on a regular basis because I liked the idea of women exchanging thoughts. I did not always agree with the panel’s opinions. But, I have a more than open mind….always giving the benefit of the doubt. It seems I have a lot of growing up to do . I will admit that the show’s sails have lost most of its wind, but I am all for having a second, third and fourth look-see. Comedians people hide under the cloak of comedy? Perhaps, but in my naïveté, I never looked at it that way. I wish I knew what these lies were? First time I have heard this….

Robert Seganti…you nailed it!!!!!!!

Ps and lol…I meant to say…I love Mario, Jeremy.
@Robert. Joy Behar Shares her VIEW, as you are doing right now. We all have our opinions….she makes me laugh, but i always thought her jokes were within the realm of decency. ‘Different strokes for different folks’. However, with all due respect, if anyone is spewing hate and venom on another human being, it is you, sir. Live and let live.

I’m all for “live and let live” but Joy Behar and Rosie O’Donnell spread lies and engage in uninformed (stupid actually)character assassination.Sharing her views is fine but not lying and slandering and then hiding ,as does Bill Maher,behind the fact that “it’s only comedy”.

As Sherri Shepherd pointed out The View lost 30% of its audience when they fired Elizabeth Hasselback.The daytime audience is not interested in the far-out ,paranoid,left-wing views of Behar,O’Donnell or Whoopi Goldberg.

Robert…you MUST be kidding! You’re offended by Joy Behar, Bill Maher, Rosie…but you like Sherri Shephard and Elizabeth What’s-her-face? Elizabeth thought she was on the Billy Graham show .The View was not a platform for her self-righteous religious beliefs and asinine comments. One in particular that I loved…and I say this in full sarcasm…she asked an Italian Catholic actor if it bothered him that people think he’s Jewish. Donu have any idea how anti Semitic that comment is ??? She also said she wouldn’t send any Jewish people Hannukkah cards because it’s not her hoiiday. I’ve sent plenty of Christmas cards to friends because it’sTHEIR holiday! She’s an attention-seeking, opinionated, full of herself loud mouth. Sherri? Ditto for her constant talk of religion and race. The whole show is way too focused on racial issues…but if it’s to survive Mario would be a great addition.

Robert Seganti…you are correct on ALL counts!!

What meant about hiding under a cloak of comedy is that Joy Behar,Whoopi Goldberg,Bill Maher,Jon Stewart are able to say vicious,dreadful,malicious and,most importantly,FALSE things about major and minor public figures and get away with by having others say “they’re only comedians-it’s a joke”.If someone who is not identified as a comedian says the exact same thing it might be actionable in a slander suit in court.And when comedians enter into political discussions in a public forum they should state their views freely and debate fairly but not hide behind the facade of their comedy careers to evade responsibility for their words -state their honest opinions but don’t
expect the latitude (because they are comedians )to lie and slander and pretend it was “comedy”.

Don’t forget Fran Drescher.

I thought Jenifer Tilly was a cartoon character.

I never said I liked Sherri Shephard or Elizabeth Hasselback.I simply recounted that Shephard that said that the View lost 30% of its audience when Hasselback left.As a matter of fact I find Sherri to be obnoxious and Elizabeth is a bit of an air-head more suited to her current early morning job.
But the far left views of Goldbergand especially,O’Donnell and Behar are offensive to a large percentage of the American viewing public and when no conservative counter balance is present a hefty percentage will and do find the show unpalatable.Nichole Wallace is billed as a conservative but she,of course,is not.Her primary role seems to be to dish dirt on Sarah Palin.

Robert…my point of “view” is that the show is way too political overall. And by that I don’t mean political as in govt politics but both politically correct and incorrect ad nauseum. The show should either be an authentic discussion with people who have more than their own opinions that they try to pass off as fact. Either they are too liberal and certain groups get a free pass for anything and everything…or they’re spewing their religious views as if it’s the only valid faith, etc. the show ceased to be entertainment years ago…just a bunch of people given a platform to yap about things from their own perspective and an audience that’s prompted to applaud for each slanted “view” they have. Hoping it’s tossed off the air and replaced with a less offensive offer.

Hi Chrystie,
It is one thing to call a show stupid, or a character on a show, but, completely another to call a real person stupid, as Robert S. has.
Your perspective is not as personal as Robert’s. I “hear” the hate in his writing….it reverberates. You, on the other hand, put your point across gently; you say what you must, how you feel, without that horrid undercurrent. Robert S. attacks, period, which makes me very uncomfortable. Perhaps I am the only one who feels this way, but I doubt it. I try to stay away from angry dispositions as much as I can….mocking someone sarcastically is one thing but intentionally crucifying is something else. JMO.
I do agree with you that I do not like when the women talk over each other…that is just rude on their part. That has gotten better since Barbara left. Yet, the show is falling. I am so disappointed because I FEEL I have to watch out of loyalty…..silly, isn’t it? Peace. Later.

I referred to the stupidity of tv executives who continually reward failure and make dreadful decisions ou of stupidity.e.g. canceling One Life to Live and All My Children to make way for the Chew and the Revolution (this type of show should be on an off-beat cable channel not on a broadcast network).Th stupidity of saying that one Live to Live was too expensive to produce and then canceling it to produce a show with Katie Couric -proven ratings poison at NBC and CBS-and then pay Couric and her producer Jeff Zucker (who previously had driven NBC’s ratings down the drain) obscene, astronomical salaries equaling nearly the total budget and entire salaries of the hundreds of people who were put out of work at One Life only to watch that show fail miserably in short order.I did not say “everyone is stupid”
As to Rosie O’Donnell it is apparent that she is a disturbed,unbalanced woman who does not belong in a high pressure situation with debate and heated differences of opinion.She,herself,acknowledges her emotional difficulties.I don’t know how you read anger and worse still “hate”in what I said.I was simply offering my opinions and my observations-I’m not angry-I don’t hate

Thank you and good luck to you
I’m sorry if I came on too strong

I neither watch nor care.

Thank you for your thoughtful reply to my comments. I do agree with you about the older folks having either their own babies or else adopting. It seems unfair that a child growing up has a parent in their 60’s and 70’s when still in school. Even my grandparents were a bit older than that when I was in school.
However, I do believe the last infant Rosie shared with her now gone partner, was one her partner gave birth to herself. When I read some background of Rosie’s, I recall that fact being stated.
Seems more suitable that the infant would go with the biological mother, don’t you? And obviously she is much younger too.
Still fame, money are contributing factors in these celebrities lives and I guess they have these children thinking they can provide well for them. It seems Rosie is trying to do this to the best of her ability, hence her leaving The View. Although there may well be some other reasons for the departure which include difficulties with the other hosts. Again, we will never know.

To break it down for you: Here are some facts: She used the book’s $3 million advance to establish her For All Kids foundation and promoted other charity projects, encouraging celebrities on her show to also take part. and some more facts about her philanthropy which up to this date with her Kids Foundation the total is correct:Charitable work[edit] Over her career, O’Donnell has developed a reputation for raising funds and her own philanthropy to charitable causes. In May 1996, Warner Books advanced O’Donnell $3 million to write a memoir.[85] She used the money to seed her For All Kids Foundation to help institute national standards for day care across the country.[85] Since 1997, Rosie’s For All Kids Foundation, overseen by Elizabeth Birch, has awarded more than $22 million in Early Childhood Care and Education program grants to over 900 nonprofit organizations.[97] On October 30, 2006, she was honored by the New York Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children.[98] “It’s our privilege to be honoring and hosting Rosie,” said NYSPCC president David Stack in a statement.[98] “Her Rosie’s for All Kids Foundation has awarded more than $22 million in grants to over 1,400 child-related organizations, and that’s just one of her many impressive activities on behalf of children.”[98] In November 2006, Nightline aired a video report about the opening of The Children’s Plaza and Family Center in Renaissance Village, a FEMA trailer park in Louisiana.[99] This was an emergency response initiative of Rosie’s For All Kids Foundation with the help of many local nonprofit organizations and for-profit businesses, all efforts were to assist the families displaced by Hurricane Katrina. San Francisco public relations firm Fineman Associates awarded top prize to Procter & Gamble’s designation of O’Donnell as “unkissable” in a promotion for Scope mouthwash on the 1997 annual list of the nation’s worst public relations blunders.[100] In response to the promotion, O’Donnell partnered with Warner–Lambert’s competitor Listerine who donated bottles of mouthwash to the studio audience and donated $1,000 to charity every time a hosted guest would kiss her in exchange for O’Donnell promoting their product.[3] On occasion, the guests would offer multiple kisses and People reported O’Donnell “smooched her way to more than $350,000.”[3] In 2003, O’Donnell and Kelli O’Donnell collaborated with Artistic Director Lori Klinger to create Rosie’s Broadway Kids, dedicated to providing free instruction in music and dance to New York City public schools or students. Rosie’s Broadway Kids serves more than 4,500 teachers, students, and their family members at 21 schools.[101] Currently programs are in Harlem, Midtown West, Chelsea, Lower East Side, East Village, and Chinatown. All net profits from O’Donnell’s 2007 book Celebrity Detox are also being donated to Rosie’s Broadway Kids.[44] In December 2006, at a one-night charity event on the Norwegian Pearl cruise ship, Elizabeth Birch, executive director for the Rosie’s For All Kids Foundation, confirmed that $50 million from O’Donnell’s five-year contract were donated in an irrevocable trust to charity.[102] She is also reported to have contributed several hundred thousand… Read more »

It seems your interest iin commenting further is to discredit my statements about the actual total in millions of Rosie O’Donnell’s philanthropic endeavours. With my last post, there were facts about involvements of hers in fund raising that were not numerical figures but obviously were events which raised millions more than all the figures I provided. It seems to me that you are requiring accounting results which of course is an impossible task. Be it known that this woman has raised millions, didn’t have to spearhead various endeavours at all. So, please do not attack me personally with your “inaccurate, preposterous numbers” comment as I find it bullying and just plain nasty.
Obviously you are out to discredit Rosie’s efforts for some reason unknown to me.
Perhaps put your energies into attempting to raise even $1,000,000 yourself for a good cause. That may get rid of your need to somehow attack my kind and complimentary comments about a side of Rosie O’Donnell which others may not have been aware as she is most modest about her fundraising.
Enough said. Please refrain from making any more aggressive comments on this forum, it is not appropriate.

If expecting people to be truthful and accurate is now somehow ‘nasty’ and ‘bullying” i must be a nasty bully.However in the real world it is just rational behavior.You are not the arbiter of what is ‘appropriate” in this forum or anywhere else.I made no” personal attack” on you-expecting and demanding accuracy i neither personal or an attack.But if you think thatTyra Banks is a source authority I guess a rational discussion with you would be fruitless.I will not refrain from demanding accuracy in public discourse and where i “put(my)energies”remains none of your business.

Thank you for your previous comments Aden.Glad we’re on the same page.

And helped to give “gay” a bad name.

I agree with James and Cee Cee. I have loved Whoopi Goldberg for forever it seems. However, I saw a side to her I did not like when Rosie came back on board and it wasn’t flattering to Whoopi at all. There was one time where Whoopi cornered Rosie on race relations. Whoopi shouted her down and gruffly yelled,”You’re a white woman, you do not know what racism is!”
Rosie looked like she was on the verge of tears because she believed she was on the side of righteousness.

Thanks, CeeCee and Harry for your replies! Harry, your assessment of the heated argument on race is spot on! Rosie was showing empathy and was not well received by Whoopi (to say the least).

Race has become the predominant topic on that show…has been for a while. My mom watches…I am beyond sick of racial discussions. The Talk never focuses on it and if the subject comes up it’s a very different dialogue.