Interviews
THE ALLEY MILLS INTERVIEW – THE BOLD AND THE BEAUTIFUL
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TV SOAP:
Were you surprised to find out that Pam was returning to “B&B” this time as a whack-job?ALLEY:
I was somewhat surprised. I did not know at first, it started with Stephanie being shot. I was just coming back and thought maybe I was just still in love with Eric. I did not realize I was quite nuts until I read the scripts. Nobody really told me.TV SOAP:
So, you figured out that Pam must have been on some sort of medication for a mental illness?ALLEY:
Of course, not many people sit by somebody’s bedside and squeeze it like a pillow like an Alfred Hitchcock movie, with foam practically dripping from their mouth. Then I went, “Oh, she is taking a turn!” Then I read ahead. Ann, Betty White’s character says, “Have you taken your medication?” Then I went, “Oh, I love it.” So, that is when I realized I was on medication the whole time and somewhat normal.TV SOAP:
So the meds are the great Pam “neutralizer”?ALLEY:
It’s so much more fun to be off your medication and in life.
(She laughs)TV SOAP:
The last time we saw you and your alter ego, Pam, was during the shooting of Stephanie storyline.ALLEY:
After the shooting of Stephanie, I stayed on the show quite awhile as a suspect. Then my mom, Ann, says, “You better come home darling. What have you been doing?” I was sitting there with my dog, which was eating my sandwich.TV SOAP:
Pam has quite a dog as her sidekick. How is working with the dog?ALLEY:
“Tiny”, is the dog. I love working with the dogs. There are actually two dogs. There is one that growls and grits its teeth, but he is the sweetest thing and his name is Hudson. Then, there is another dog playing Tiny, who leaps at the suspect. Jennifer Gareis, who plays Donna, is actually terrified of dogs! And in recent episodes that aired in the States, this time Stephanie and Eric are on the outs and Eric is with Donna. Theoretically, I think I am helping Stephanie by saving Eric from Donna. But of course, in Pam’s deranged mind she likes Eric too, and she hates Donna. In the scenes I shot with Jennifer I had to use this wonderful man named OJ, who is this 60-year-old African American wrangler, because the dog would leap and Jenn could not be in the scenes.TV SOAP:
What kind of dog is “Tiny”?ALLEY:
He is a Doberman Pincher. I am not afraid of dogs, but at the end of the scenes where I leap at Donna and leap at her again, I’m holding the dog by the leash, and OJ goes, “Good boy!” Then, he takes this fake arm that “Tiny” has been holding onto the whole scene. The dogs have really huge jaws, so it was quite scary.TV SOAP:
So, how on earth, did you tape the scenes between Donna and Pam and “Tiny”?ALLEY:
During the entire dialog, it’s a close-up of me. OJ would be in Jenn’s spot, and I would be talking and the dog would leap at OJ. Then, what we did was tape the whole thing without the dog. I pretended to lurch forward with an empty leash going backwards and forward. It is really hard though, because you have to remember what people did and where they were positioned.TV SOAP:
How crazy is Pam going to get?ALLEY:
It’s pretty deranged, but I put a tea bag in my mouth. My husband, Orson Bean, who is a comic said, “Make sure to make the string hang in your mouth as long as possible.” My husband helps me with the comic side of being crazy. The crazy part I have already explained to Donna, is how I get obsessed and how I am borderline psyzophrenic. I have told this to her to freak her out. I am mostly keeping normal around other characters. It’s mostly around Donna that I am freaking out.TV SOAP:
Does Stephanie know what is wrong with Pam?ALLEY:
Stephanie does not know what I am doing, and she does not know about the fact that I am off my meds.TV SOAP:
How far will her insanity go?ALLEY:
I don’t know. Who knows? Brad Bell (creator and head writer, “B&B”) knows. Everyday you pick up a script and go, “Oh thank you Brad.” You just don’t know. I know I am just going to mess with Donna with her exterior. Pam is trying to get Eric uninterested in her. Pam basically thinks all that Donna has going for her is her sex appeal, and wants Eric to just notice that. Her main motivation is to get Eric turned off.TV SOAP:
Is Pam adversarial with Sister Stephanie, at this point?ALLEY:
No. Stephanie and I are having fun. I tell her that I am responsible for everything that I do to Donna. So this is what I do: I turn her hair green, I keep her in a tanning booth for 15 minutes or so… so she turns black, and her teeth gets stained. So she loses her confidence. Stephanie thinks it’s really fun, but she does not know I am mentally unbalanced, but I think she might know. She knows that Pam has had a really rough childhood. So, my excuse for me being mean and crazy is what happened to Pam as a child.TV SOAP:
For those who don’t know, please recap the childhood abuse that caused the problem for the Douglas sisters.ALLEY:
Even though Stephanie was the one that got abused by our father, Ann, our mother, would make me play piano in the next room while Stephanie’s beatings were going on. Even though it’s just soap, the show got so many calls from South American countries from people who had been abused. They had an abuse hot line, which was used a lot. I think Brad was freaked out by it, and it turned into a very serious thing. I don’t think people talk about that in their lives, especially in other countries. So, when I first came on the show, the whole thing was very serious. The childhood was very bad. As bad as it was for Stephanie that our father was creepy and hit her, it was left vague what he really did to her. But Pam heard her screaming and saw the blood on her back. I am six years younger than her and was always left out of what really happened. Pam has lived with her mother her whole life, which is pathetic. I think Pam has probably been on medication her whole life, and Ann has repressed everything. She let her little girl get hurt in the next room.TV SOAP:
My theory is obvious, that Ann has been medicating and drugging Pam her whole life! What are your thoughts on that?ALLEY:
It has not been said that Ann was drugging Pam to keep her in check. She just said, “Pammy have you been taking your pills? You know what happens when you don’t take your pills!” You get the feeling that Ann is the regulator.TV SOAP:
But, you have made the whole crazy scenario a little like Lucille Ball from “I Love Lucy.” Is that on the money?ALLEY:
Yes. It’s really interesting, because Brad had kind of made it comic like a Lucille Ball, trying to get Donna. I love that! It’s really fun and it’s fun to be funny. If it were too cruel and too mean, it would not be the same thing with Donna. Everyone likes to get the bimbo! It’s fun! The truth is, in real life I have a friend who is a lot like my character. But the truth is, the manic factor of this disease is actually quite fun. When you are around people who are really manic, it’s fun. The other side of it is not fun. It’s really, really dark. Brad has it in the writing that, “If Pammy does not take her pills; she goes to a really dark place, Donna. I am going to take you with me, if you don’t back off!” My threatening to murder her was pretty nasty. You just never know where this is going to go.TV SOAP:
How long will you be back on the show this time?ALLEY:
It’s been six weeks since I have been doing this story with Donna. Then, you never really know till Brad wakes up in the middle of the night! He gets these ideas and then the next thing you know… Pam is off her medication! Last time, I was after Eric, so he changed that.TV SOAP:
How is working with John McCook (Eric)?ALLEY:
John is a doll, great to work with, and hysterically funny!TV SOAP:
How is it working with Susan Flannery (Stephanie)?ALLEY:
When I started working on the show, she was so powerful in the child abuse storyline.
Susan is an amazing actress. I like her as a person and to hang out with her in her dressing room, running lines.TV SOAP:
Do you run lines with her and go through a certain rehearsal process?ALLEY:
She does that everyday, which is fantastic. When you arrive at the studio, the first thing you do is blocking, even before make-up and hair. Susan wants every one of the actors in her scenes to get together, whether it’s one or four people. In this case, Susan had the four of us, John, Betty, her and me, and we would run every scene three times. Then we would talk to each other about anything that we didn’t think felt real. Then, Susan will change lines to make it real if she has too. She says, “Be free.” You know if you run the scenes three times, then it’s not a free-for-all in front of the camera.To hear this audio snippet, click back to The Global sections,
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How do you feel about working with you new on-screen rival, Jennifer Gareis (Donna)?ALLEY:
I think she is great! She will let me make fun of her without hurting her feelings. That is the thing that gets kind of tricky, when you get into something. I, as Pam, don’t like Donna, and Jenn is a very vulnerable girl. She is young. I keep forgetting at times that she is. But, I want to make sure she doesn’t think I hate her. I want to be free to feel it when we are taping. So, I try to have lunch with Jenn and stuff so she knows that I like her as a person, and then I can be really nasty to her on stage. Jenn is getting her MBA at Pepperdine, so she is not an airhead.ALLEY:
Most actors I know would not be able to go and learn lines this fast. “B&B” tapes four days a week now. So, we tape one and half episodes per day right now. There is a luxury in that you get a long weekend. If you are in a heavy storyline, it’s a lot of lines, and if it’s emotional scenes where you want to be there, then you have to get them under your belt before then. I am doing a play by J.M. Barrie who wrote “Peter Pan.” It is called “Alice Sit By the Fire”, and every Thursday through Sunday I am in that, too. So, it’s been a challenge to do both things, but I am alive! (She laughs)TV SOAP:
Have you been to Australia yet?ALLEY:
I have never been to Australia. My husband lived there and the kids went to school in Melbourne. I want to go really badly, and he has promised me he would take me. We have really good friends that live there in an Arts Colony where a lot of people from the television business live. It’s called Daylesford and it’s in Victoria.TV SOAP:
In closing, by your best guestimate, what do you think is coming down the pike for Pam?ALLEY:
My guess is maybe we are going to get another facet of Pam; the inside of her… of what this whack job is really going through. I never know till I pick up a script. It all depends upon the pill jar. Do you know what I mean? (She laughs)TV SOAP:
Now that you have spent time on a daytime soap, how is it stacking up against your other primetime work, such as “The Wonder Years”?
Love the dress you wore to Ridge’s and Taylor’s wedding (July, 2011). Wondered if you can reveal the label? Enjoy your part very much.
General Hospital
GH and OLTL Alum Patrick J. Gibbons Reveals the Story Behind Writing Trina’s Song on ‘General Hospital’ (Exclusive)

At the conclusion of today’s August 21 episode of General Hospital, Trina Robinson (Tabyana Ali) sings a lullaby to baby Dez, that went into a montage to close out the episode as her father Curtis Ashford (Donnell Turner) reports to Pentonville and winds up in his jail cell.
However, in a fun fact, the song entitled, “A Lonely Heart To Give” was actually written by none other than former One Life to Live and General Hospital actor, Patrick J. Gibbons.
Daytime fans first met Gibbons as Sam Manning on One Life to Live. At the time, when he started on the soap, he was just 5-years-old. Gibbons played the part from 2010-2013 on ABC and Prospect Park’s editions of the show. Fast-forward to 2018, Gibbons shows up on General Hospital as Wyatt Hoover, the scout who seemed always be injured, but in the thick of the drama. Patrick had appeared on GH multiple times as Wyatt including: 2018, 2019, 2021, 2022, 2023.

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FROM HIS GRANDMOTHER’S DEATH CAME THE INSPIRATION FOR HIS SONG
Now in 2026, General Hospital fans are getting to learn about another side of Gibbons’ talent as a songwriter and guitar player after “A Lonely Heart to Give” debuted today! Michael Fairman TV caught up with Patrick, who is now a senior at Penn State entering his final year as a finance major, to get the back-story of how his song wound up on GH!
Gibbons explained he wrote the song in honor of his grandmother who passed away a few years ago with whom he was, very, very close with. “Randomly, my grandmother had a downfall and passed away during the second semester of my sophomore year. I was in my dorm a lot and I was just playing with my guitar. And at the time, I was really into finger-style playing. I wrote the lyric and music to it (with a little help from my guitar teacher Lou), and my mom showed the rough demo to Frank Valentini (EP, General Hospital). He’s like an uncle to me. Frank loved it so much he said, “Finish that up. I want to hear the whole thing, and I want it on the show.”
MAKING MUSIC FOR GENERAL HOSPITAL
Gibbons and his parents took the next steps! “So now, all we needed was a female voice, because I thought that would fit the song well,” Patrick shared. “At the golf club we go to my parents were at a dinner. They liked the singer that was performing and spoke to her about the song, and she says she would like to bring it to her ‘boss’ who ended up being Eric Bazilian of the Hooters fame!” (Bazilian also wrote the smash hit song “One of Us” for Joan Osborne).
Next, “We went in the studio and recorded it and the song came together and it was beautiful. We loved it. They loved it at General Hospital and now they’re putting it the show and they are coming in with a piano, instead of a guitar. Paul Glass, the GH musical director, has been keeping us updated over the last six months of how it was coming along, and when it would air, and how GH put their own arrangement to it. I can’t wait to see and hear what they did with it.”

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PATRICK’S ONE LIFE TO LIVE FAMILY
Everyone knows that the One Life to Live extended family share a very tight bond, and Patrick said he does stay in touch with a few of his former One Life to Live co-stars, especially those from the Manning family! “I stayed in touch with Kassie DePaiva (ex-Blair) and sent her little videos here and there. She was like my second mom for five years. We keep in contact with Kristen Alderson (ex-Starr) over X the most, and she can’t believe how big I’ve gotten. Like, none of them can! (laughs). I also loved working with Roger Howarth (ex-Todd) and Trevor St. John (ex-Todd and Victor Jr.), and to me since I was so young, they were just my friends, ‘Roger and Trevor,’ not Todd Manning or Victor Jr.”
It was a trip to California and a visit to Port Charles that ultimately led to Gibbons second soap role of Wyatt Hoover. Patrick explains, “In 2016, Frank Valentini invited us out to Los Angeles to visit the set of General Hospital. I think he heard me say, ‘This is so much fun. I miss being on the set.’ He goes, ‘You should come out. I’ll bring you on the show. We can make you a character.'”
A few years later, Patrick’s dream became a reality! “Then, by the summer of 2018, I was playing Wyatt, the scout, and shared scenes with Wes Ramsey (Peter August), and the best was when I shared a scene with Roger Howarth and Michael Easton (ex-John, OLTL and ex-Silas, Finn et al, GH), it was like chemistry from the old days.”

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IT’S ALL IN THE NUMBERS
As to his future aspirations, it’s a career in the finance game that has piqued Gibbons’ real-life interest. But never say never to a return to acting. Patrick explained, “I’ve always enjoyed numbers. And on top of that, one of the biggest parts of finance is being personable and outgoing.”
He continued, “That’s one of the greatest skills I developed growing up. I really love the markets. I’m super interested. I’m never going to close the door to acting. I’m always open to that because I just love it so much. It’s such a great art.”
Take note! If there are any investment bankers or private equity folks among the GH faithful looking for a young analyst next year, Patrick’s DMs are open. You can find him on X at @PatrickJGibbons.”
So, what did you think of the song sung by Trina on today’s GH that was written by Patrick J. Gibbons? Did you enjoy Patrick’s performances as One Life’s Sam and GH’s Wyatt? Would you like to see him back on GH at some point? Let us know via the comment section.
General Hospital
‘General Hospital’ Alum Chad Duell Admits That He Didn’t Expect the Role of Michael Corinthos to be Recast, and Would Consider Working on Another Soap (Exclusive)

Chad Duell, the Daytime Emmy-winning actor, who stepped away from the pivotal role of Michael Corinthos on General Hospital, opened up about: his previous decision to leave the series after nearly 15 years, where’s he’s at now after time away from the demands of a daytime soap opera, and took a stroll down memory lane with some of Michael’s most-acclaimed storyline during his run, during a livestream chat on August 19 on You Tube’s Michael Fairman Channel.
Viewers last saw Duell on-screen as Michael in January of 2025, and with his successor in the role, Rory Gibson making his debut at the GH Nurses’ Ball in episodes that aired later in May. It was clear that during the conversation, Chad was a bit surprised that the GH brass decided to recast him when he thought he was just taking some much needed time off.
Burn-out of the daily grind of being on a soap was definitely a part of Chad’s decision to take a break. Duell explained “People know when you’re doing something for so long or your character is kind of in the same place for so long or doing the same stuff over and over again, you do get a a little burnt out, you get a little stiff, stale, a little stiff at times. I didn’t want that to be any sort of lasting impression. I have 15 years of a body of work of I’ve done on that show, which is fantastic.”

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WHILE CHAD WAS AWAY GH RECAST MICHAEL CORINTHOS WITH RORY GIBSON
Chad shared, his mindset when leaving GH was, “I’m taking some time away, we’ll see what happens.” Then he added, “Obviously, they decided to go in a different direction with Michael when I was gone. I didn’t think they were going to bring somebody back in my place. But you know, it’s the business. You never know what can happen.”
Duell also shared he has not watched a single episode of General Hospital since he left the series, but now feels he reenergized following the loss of his father and stepping away from the GH, “I’m in a place now mentally, where I’m ready to sink my teeth into it again.”

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Even though he is no longer Michael on GH, Chad was very happy with his final storyline where Michael was set on fire when a bomb exploded at Sonny’s (Maurice Benard) penthouse. “It was fun to put him in a dangerous situation, because I was wanting Michael to be in something scary instead of trying to be a hero character or just things happening around him, but to be the center point of tragedy happening to him. (I always saw) Michael as the heart of the (Corinthos) family.”
When Michael was badly burned the show chose not burn his face, which normally a soap does when they are recasting role and switching actors. Chad weighed-in, “They didn’t burn my face because I told Frank Valentini (EP, GH) I’m willing to come back. It was just a little bit of a break. So, I assumed that if they would have burned my face, they could have brought somebody back looking different than me… if that’s what their plan was.”

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MEMORABLE MICHAEL STORYLINES
One of Chad’s most memorable performances was the in the storyline of Michael’s rape while he was sentenced to prison in 2010 and the confession of it in 2011. “It was so well-written and I was very nervous,” recalled Chad. “When I get really nervous about something, it ends up being really good when I do it, because it just means I care a lot about it”
“I have to put a lot of effort and work into it, and I really want it to be good. I was working with Dominic Zamprogna (Dante) and Steve Burton (Jason) a lot during those scenes, and Laura Wright (Carly). It was great working with Steve and Dominic, especially, during that storyline.
A NEW SOAP ROLE FOR CHAD?
As to a future soap opera role, Chad is open to the idea and would love to jump back in to a juicy role, “I know people over at The Bold and the Beautiful, and The Young and the Restless. They know that if they’re interested, I would love to come in for a screen test or something, and they can see what I’m doing.”
Meanwhile, Chad has been busy putting out new music under the moniker Duelly and during the interview he explains how he creates his EDM tracks and much more. You can stream his latest single, Static in the Quiet Room on Spotify, Apple Music and You Tube Music.
You can check out the full conversation with Chad Duell below.
Now let us know: what show would you like to see Chad cast on down the line? BTG, DAYS, B&B, Y&R, or a new role on GH? What did you think of his thoughts on the casting switch while he was away in the role of Michael? What was your favorite Michael storyline during Chad’s 15-year run on the ABC soap opera? Let us know via the comment section.
Interviews
‘The Young and the Restless’ Eric Braeden Talks Daytime Emmy Nomination, State of Nikki and Victor’s Marriage, and His Co-Stars (Exclusive)

Eric Braeden has been playing Victor Newman on The Young and the Restless for 46 years. The iconic star of the #1 rated daytime drama series has thus far won once for Outstanding Lead Actor in a Daytime Drama Series back in 1998 in a ceremony he did not attend. Fast-forward to 2026 and the 85-year-old Braeden is once again nominated in the category for the upcoming 53rd annual Daytime Emmy Awards.
Earlier this month, Eric, along with 4 other actors learned they were going for gold at the ceremonies on October 30. In a twist of fate, fellow co-star and also Lead Actor nominee, Christian LeBlanc (Michael, Y&R) and Braeden submitted the same scenes which centered around Victor firing his longtime attorney and friend, Michael Baldwin.
In a new interview, now on You Tube’s Michael Fairman Channel, Braeden shares: his thoughts on the nomination, if he will attend daytime’s biggest night of the year, what he thinks will happen with the current cracks within the relationship of Y&R’s Nikki (Melody Thomas Scott) and Victor, his reaction to the heartbreaking scene where Nick (Joshua Morrow) admits to Victor that he has a drug addiction, and much more.

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VICTOR NEWMAN AND MICHAEL BALDWIN EMMY SCENES
On his Lead Actor Emmy-nominated reel, Eric recalled, “The show submitted it for me and I said, ‘Yeah, go ahead.’ Had I known Christian was part of it, I would’ve said, ‘No!’ I’m kidding. It’s difficult to do a scene with Christian without beginning to laugh in the middle of it. Anyway, he’s wonderful to work with and he did a wonderful job, and I’m grateful for the nomination.”
Braeden also shared plans for attending this year’s Daytime Emmys with his granddaughter making it all the more special, “I will go this year. You know why? It’s an honor first of all, and secondly, my granddaughter, when she heard about it, she says, ‘Opa, can I go? I already know what dress I would buy.’ I mean, it was so sweet. But you bet. Now, I’ll really go to the Emmys!”

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CAN NIKKI AND VICTOR’S MARRIAGE SURVIVE?
Over the past year, Nikki and Victor’s marriage has been on shaky ground, especially after Victor caught his nemesis, Jack Abbott (Peter Bergman) alone in a hotel room with his wife. Nikki went on a bender and Jack was her AA sponsor, but in order to help her, he almost OD’d himself. Victor believes the two hit the sheets.
Now in 2026, Victor was there after Nikki woke up after surgery to save her eyesight, and she has yet to see post-procedure. However, Braeden notes ‘not so fast’ on a reconciliation.
“I would say it will be a rocky road, because you don’t get over these things so quickly. You don’t,” teased Eric. “It’s jealousy and it’s a very, very deep emotion, and every time there’s something that reminds Victor of that incident, he will feel that emotion. It’s an emotion that is not taken seriously enough by people. Relationships are very difficult because of that sometimes.”

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JOSHUA MORROW DOING THE FINEST WORK OF HIS CAREER
Back in March of this year, in one of the most unforgettable in this, or any soap season, Nick Newman accompanied by his brother Adam (Mark Grossman), came to see Victor where Nick admitted he now has a drug addiction to fentanyl and how he is so ashamed of himself. In the scene, Victor goes to comfort his son, calling him, “My boy” while broken-hearted.
Eric recalled the taping of the scene: “It touched me deeply and it was one of those moments that a father and son don’t want. They’re horrified by that. I think Joshua made an enormous leap in acting in that scene. He showed what he is capable of. It was a very, very touching scene. We had some scenes after that, again, about the same thing. Now, there’s a whole deeper connection between father and son. Any father would almost have a breakdown knowing that his son is on drugs or his daughter. It was a very well-written scene.”

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ERIC BRAEDEN AND MICHELLE STAFFORD MUTUAL ADMIRATION SOCIETY
The Young and the Restless led the 53rd annual Daytime Emmy Nominations with 18, more than any other series or programs. One of the nominations belongs to Michelle Stafford (Phyllis) who nabbed another Lead Actress nod.
Recently, Eric and Michelle have shared much screen-time since Phyllis took Victor’s company from him. During the Michael Fairman Channel’s Daytime Emmy Nominations Special 2026 Live!, Stafford she loved working opposite Eric in the storyline, to which Eric has now responded.
“It’s mutual because I love watching her work,” exclaimed the TV icon. “I just don’t know what she’s going to do in a scene and I love spontaneous moments. I don’t like it to be set and adhered to. I like it to be improvised as much as possible. Michelle is just so facile, so quick, so smart as an actress. She’s wonderful.”
Check out the full conversation with Eric below.
Now weigh-in: are you happy to see Eric receive a Lead Actor nomination? Do you think Nikki and Victor will continue to have issues in their marriage? Did you like the scenes with Michelle Stafford and Eric, and of course the hankie-inducing moment between Joshua Morrow and his TV dad? Weigh-in via the comment section.
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