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The Don Diamont, Scott Clifton and Darin Brooks Interview – The Bold and the Beautiful

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On The Bold and the Beautiful, the Spencer family continues to expand with the emergence of never-before-seen, or heard of, Wyatt Fuller (Darin Brooks)!  As it turns out, Wyatt just happens to be the biological son of Bill Spencer (Don Diamont) and Quinn Fuller (Rena Sofer) whom apparently Bill thought was never born, after giving Quinn money to have an abortion many years ago.  When handsome and seemingly good guy, Wyatt finds out all this new Intel, his whole world is turned upside down … his father is the rich and ruthless Bill Spencer, and his mother was never supposed to give birth to him!

Elsewhere, Bill’s other son Liam (Scott Clifton) who many times has made his father cringe with his less-than-Spencer-like indecision and “antics” is trying to woo back Hope Logan (Kim Matula) after dumping her for Steffy Forrester (Jacqueline MacInnes Wood) quite a few times! But there is only one problem this time … it ain’t going to be so easy!  Wyatt has his eyes set on Hope, too!  And he has made it quite clear to his newly found brother that he will win the affections of Hope, leaving Liam the odd man out!  And through all of this, Bill is seeing that Wyatt, while seemingly inheriting some of the more macho, determined, aggressive, and even cutthroat side of himself, still wonders: can he even trust the guy?

On-Air On-Soaps sat down in this exclusive interview, where for the first time actors Don Diamont, and Daytime Emmy winners Scott Clifton, and Darin Brooks, chatted together about the complex relationships between these three Spencer men, and where it’s all headed!  Plus, Darin and Scott weigh-in on the fan response to who should ultimately be the guy to sweep Hope off her feet?  Clearly, Wyatt has a head start, because he is the new guy in town, but can Hope ignore her deep history with Liam?  Don Diamont cautions: don’t count Liam out just yet!  We found Don, Scott, and Darin to be witty, charming, at times incorrigible, and extremely intelligent when talking about their roles. We would expect nothing less from the men who play the Spencer clan!

MICHAEL:

What did you think Don, when you found out Bill had another son that would show up on B&B?

DON:

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Till I found out who it was going to be I thought it was great!  (Laughs)  When I first heard about it, I said, “Really? A grown son is just going to pop up?”  And actually, it is really true to Bill’s history.  I don’t think he was discriminate.   There are probably more Spencer men and women running around!  (Laughs)  So, I can complete buy into that a son could show up in this guy’s life.  I don’t even think that it is particularly “soapy”.   That is the reality of youth misspent, or something like that! (Laughs)  In terms of the story, it works great.

MICHAEL:

So it wasn’t in your contract Don, that you couldn’t have a son over 20? (Laughs)

DON:

No, no!  The more Spencers the better, and I thought it was great.  I also thought it was wonderful for Scott to have a new conflict on the series.

MICHAEL:

And when you found out it was Darin Brooks who got the role … what did you think?  Did you know who Darin was?

DON:

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Honestly, I did not know who Darin was, but Scott had read with Darin, and told me that of all the actors he was the one that made the most interesting choices with the material.

MICHAEL:

Scott, why were Darin’s choices so good during the audition process?

SCOTT:

There were four guys that came in to do a chemistry read with me.  The scene is after Liam is basically in his underwear and has a confrontation with his dad.  It was the one I submitted for the Daytime Emmys this year.  They took that scene and re-wrote a lot of stuff in it, and instead of it being a scene between father and son; they made it between brother and brother.  But it was with similar lines like, “You’re a Spencer.  Be a man, Liam!”  That kind of a thing.  The other three guys who tested were being macho and being very charismatic.  But, Darin was the only one, who even though he was telling me off in this scene; it looked like it killed him to do it.  It looks like it hurt him to do it.  In all of Darin’s choices, there was love, and that to me meant so much more.  If we are going to do this thing and have some longevity, there needs to be at the core of this love, and Darin was the one who brought that.  So after all four actors auditioned, our executive producer Brad Bell asked me which one I thought was the best. And I said, “Darin”.  Obviously, Wyatt and Liam are in this conflicted storyline right now, but what is important about that, I believe, is this exact storyline won’t be going on a year from now.   Maybe Wyatt and Liam will still hate each other, but you still have that basis, and that connection, that makes it interesting.  As long as you have those layers, the relationship can sustain whatever mountains, or valleys it goes through.  It just makes it more interesting to watch.  Darin was the only one who played it with the potential for that kind of longevity.

MICHAEL:

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Wyatt seemed like a nice guy when he initially aired, and then he finds out Bill is his bio-father and at first he is shocked, and then he is really pissed!  Was that the turning point for the character?

DARIN:

When Wyatt found out about that he has a father, everything sort of came crashing down on him at that moment.  He has been told all these lies, and it can really put your mind in a tailspin, and then you find out you have a brother, and all these families’ members, and this hidden life that has been kept from you.   So he is angry, and he wants to know why? Then he finds out that Bill had given Quinn money for the abortion, and that hurts, too.  Wyatt is the type of guy who goes after what he feels, and he doesn’t care!  I think that is the similarity we wanted to bring with Wyatt and Bill.  There is that “bad boy-ness” but there is something about it that people are left wondering and guessing, and being a loose cannon, and all those sorts of things.  It keeps people guessing what is he going to do next?  During that storyline, all these emotions were running through Wyatt.  He did not know what do to, so he is lashing out.  I loved that scene where Bill and Liam come in and go, “We are going to go with you and go camping!”  And Wyatt is like, “What? Why are you?  This is ridiculous.”

MICHAEL:

Is Wyatt methodically working against his father, Bill?

DARIN:

I think ultimately, these shows are about love in some way and different relationships we have with a father, brother, mother, stepmother, stepbrother, nephew … everyone is sorted of related in a way.  But it’s always going to be about love and power, and the family being hurt by one another.  That is what the basis of soap opera is in general.  Wyatt has always wanted love from his father, and he feels after all this lost time, he wants to prove himself and be loved.  He has always wanted a love from a brother, but he finds it fun competition for him right now in trying to get the girl!  So it’s kind of power and love at the same time.

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SCOTT:

I don’t mean to imply that right now in the storyline Liam and Wyatt love each other, they don’t. But, they will.  You have to assume that at some point they will.

DON:

You have to separate the biological relationship from the emotional relationship.  This guy shows up and you go, “Hey, I’m your brother.”  That does not create any feeling of love at all.  It’s just a person who happens to be biologically “my brother”.   They are just two people getting to know each other, but there is no connection there, certainly at this point.

MICHAEL:

Bill has had a real problem, and been very disappointed in Liam that he was not more in his own image.  He is always reprimanding him about the way he handles things so un-Spencer like!

SCOTT:

And he still is!

DON:

I will argue that that while it was frustrating for Bill, a major part of that was Bill’s issue, not Liam’s.   At the time when Liam stood up for what Liam believed in, Bill was really proud of him.  When Bill can step back and realize that those are the moments that are important in our relationship, and he realizes that is not the way I would have handled that situation, but proud of Liam still the same, that works well.  In fact, Bill has even said that on the air shows.

MICHAEL:

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But in regards to Wyatt, does Bill see him more like himself?

DON:

Bill absolutely does see where he shares more of his personality in Wyatt than Liam, at least on the surface.  They are more obvious with Bill and Wyatt.  But I think, Liam shares some traits too, but they are just different.  Liam’s moral compass is different, but he will still stand up for what he believes in, as well.  Wyatt is more like Bill in that his scruples will come into question.  He might not necessarily be thinking he is doing something that’s wrong, but by how society sees things it may be deemed as wrong.  But while initially Bill thought, “Hey, look at this kid, he’s great!  Built in my own image!” Bill also realizes that may not be such a good thing.  We might not be too much alike.  There’s only room for one Spencer, and that’s me! (Laughs)  Liam is Bill’s conscience, and Katie’s been Bill conscience. Those people that feed into the other side of Bill tend to get into trouble.  Bill has those moments where he is lucid and has that awareness.  But it’s a constant battle that goes on: “This is who I have been for 45 or more years, and this has worked for me. And that is why I am who I am.”  Yet at times, being that way does not work for Bill, and often times Liam makes him see that.  Katie will make Bill see that, too.  But he’s always easily drawn back into what makes Bill … Bill!

SCOTT:

To that point, in the grand scheme of things, Wyatt is still brand new.  We have so much to still learn about him.  Wyatt and Bill have not even had a good chance to flesh out their relationship. There are plenty of times to discover what are the littler things that they do disagree on, and where do they butt heads, and where their differences really lie as it pertains to the real world around them.  When Liam started on the show, he was not a completely fleshed out character, so we have a lot more to learn about Wyatt and what kind of Spencer he really is.

MICHAEL:

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What did you think of the recent scenes where Wyatt has a major declaration to Liam that he is going after Hope!  As he says, “Game on, brother!” (Laughs)

DARIN:

I think he is really going for Hope.  I think for him it’s the fun challenge, and for Wyatt he is going to test the boundaries, and see if Liam is a worthy adversary.  It’s competition between brothers, and it’s fun.

MICHAEL:

Is Wyatt going to be under-handed to get Hope permanently away from Liam?

DARIN:

Maybe, who knows?  (Laughs)

SCOTT:

Everyone has their own sense of morality.  Bill is consistent with his principles.  People may see Liam as weak and pathetic, but he has principles.  Wyatt also has principles, and he will not violate them … for example, when Wyatt said to Liam, “I do”, and, “When I hear Hope say those words that is a line I won’t cross.”

DON:

I thought that was great in that scene between the two of them, that Wyatt made that statement.  It’s fair game till then.

MICHAEL:

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When Wyatt said that, it made him a bit more redeemable, and if Wyatt hadn’t said that, he would just be an all out jerk!!  And out of that, Liam will become quite defensive from all accounts?

SCOTT:

Right, and out of that you will see Liam being backed into a corner, and seeing him behave in ways you may not have seen him behave before, necessarily.  I think you are going to see Liam start to spiral a little bit.  Personally, I would like to see Liam genuinely lose for the first time, and see what that does to him.

MICHAEL:

Do you think they are crafting a story so the audience does not know which brother to root for in the race for Hope’s heart?

DARIN:

I think that is sort of the goal.  That is what makes it even more exciting for the audience to watch, that they agree with some of Wyatt’s principles and some of Liam’s principles, where it’s not just black or white, but everybody’s gray.  When everybody is gray, it can be very relatable to audience members, as opposed to the character always being one thing.  It’s good to have that balance of who to root for … and, who not to root for!  That is what is fun about a triangle. To make a good soap opera triangle you have to have that.   I think it is written great for that.

MICHAEL:

What are B&B fans saying about your characters on Twitter?

DARIN:

People are saying nice things about me, and the people that are saying bad things about me don’t put my name on it.  I see things when people don’t like Wyatt.

SCOTT:

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People have no problem telling me they hate Liam.  In fact, just the other night someone mentioned me on Twitter and said, “Liam is such a pathetic character, and the actor who plays him should be ashamed.”

DON:

You got my tweet? (Laughs)

SCOTT:

I am so stupid!  I get caught up in this stuff and I tweeted back, “It takes a strong actor to play a weak character.”

DON:

I want to kill you right now! (Laughs)

MICHAEL:

Don, you are not on Twitter!  Why not?

DON:

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I don’t tweet, or go on facebook.  I have zero interest in doing that.  Heather Tom (Katie) would go on Twitter and see what is being said, and sometimes it would really bother her.  Why do that to yourself?  Just do your job and follow your instincts.

SCOTT:

For those of us who do keep a finger on the pulse of the Twitterverse, (laughs) what I am noticing, and this is important, fans are overwhelming favoring the Wyatt character.  I think that tells us where to go with the storyline.  Me, as a viewer, I want to see Wyatt and Hope’s relationship go somewhere.  I want to see, for the first time, Liam looses everything.  Liam has always been about, “Oh, which girl?”  I hope that this triangle resolves with Wyatt triumphant, and Liam hitting rock bottom.

DON:

It’s not surprising that the audience is overwhelming in favor of Wyatt at the moment, because Liam was in the catbird seat for three years waffling between two women.  So of course, this guy comes along and he wants to make Hope the sole focus of his world, and calling Liam out on his behavior.  Of course, the audience is going to side for now with Wyatt.

SCOTT:

Yes, and the gift there, and the opportunity that is there storyline-wise, is (and this is me selfishly thinking of my character) what does Liam take away from this?  How does it change Liam, and how does he grow from this?

DON:

Well, he will screw it up! (Laughs)

MICHAEL:

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What does Kim Matula (Hope) think of all this?  Having two guys vying for her affections?  Do you think she likes the way the story is being told?

DARIN:

I can’t speak for her, but I think she is having fun.

DON:

She is in the eye of these gentlemen’s affection.  She is the one being pursued.

SCOTT:

I don’t presume to speak for Kim, but I can tell you from my conversations with Kim, just as it’s hard for me to play Liam fighting so hard for something he has clearly blown a long time ago, it’s challenging for Kim to play as if these two guys are equally desirable. Here you have Wyatt, who has a clean record and adores her.  The one issue Hope has ever had with Liam is that she had to share him.  Wyatt completely compensates for that. So I think it’s hard for Kim to play really torn between these two.

DON:

In what way?  You think she would go right to Wyatt because he presents the best scenario for her?

SCOTT:

I think so!

DON:

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I would argue that he is the flavor of the moment, and he is giving her all his attention, you betcha.  But, can she trust that?  And given her history with Liam, it’s, “Can I trust this?”  Liam was like that too, and then he wasn’t like that.  Hope has emotional history with Liam.  This with Wyatt is all skyrockets, and it’s new, and it’s making her have that little tingle inside, but she has got real history with Liam.  I don’t think it’s just, “OK I am going to dump Liam and go with this guy whose clean cut, because he is telling me everything I want to hear.”  Now, this is just my opinion. (Laughs)

SCOTT:

Well, that would be cool, but they are not writing that.  It’s true what Don says, when you have been in a relationship for so long, and as poisoned and tainted that relationship may be, that history can pull you back, because of the comfort of it.  If anything, that is what Liam has over Wyatt … that familiarity.  But, what the Hope character is playing right now is, “Huh … do I have to choose between somebody who reliably hurts me?  Or, take a gamble with this new guy, who seems to adore me and nobody else?”

MICHAEL:

Does Wyatt really adore Hope … or is there a bit of revenge to it in gaining her undying love?

DARIN:

I would say it’s legitimate.  The one thing I try to do with Wyatt is that when he is with Hope you see Wyatt for who he is, but then when you see him with other people who pissed him off, or crossed him a little bit, then you see he might be playing them.  So far it’s been good with Hope and his mom.  Those are the two people where you have seen him be genuine.

MICHAEL:

What if Wyatt slept with Katie?  That would be a great twist in the story!

DON:

It could happen!  You never know?

MICHAEL:

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I think it would be hot, sexy, and create plenty of drama for the Spencer men.  I’m not a betting man, but I am feeling strongly that could happen somewhere down the line.

DARIN:

That would make for an interesting family dynamic.

DON:

There is some history for something like that on this show, isn’t there?  (Laughs)

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SteamySteffyfan

Loved the interview. Hoping down the track their will be love between Spencer brothers it would be great. Darin I think your awesome I haven’t seen anything negative about your character I think your a great addition to the cast have always been a fan since your Max Brady role on DAYS. Scott love you to bits no matter what Liam is doing I think your an amazing exceptional actor and you have great talent and I think you should stop worrying about responding to negative people and respond more to people like me you is one of your biggest… Read more »

4everDAYS
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4everDAYS

He made a mistake by not going back to Days of our Lives.
B&B is almost as bad as YawneR.

judith
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judith

Well, his B&B character seems more interesting than his Dool one so actually, it seems he did good moving on to Dool..after few years away from Dool anyway..Max Brady was too much a goodie goodie..not really interesting to watch and TO PLAY and Darin seems to also think that..

DawnElicia
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DawnElicia

Good Interview. I want to say Yuck no to Katie and Wyatt sleeping together. That’s Brooke’s job. It pains me as a Brooke fan to say that.

I do love Hope and Wyatt together. I hope that Hope does choose Wyatt and Liam to come out the loser. He needs to realize what its like and be alone for a while.

judith
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judith

Katie is not really better than Brooke..the Brooke is ‘evil’ all pain, disasters, global world crashing is her fault..IS GETTING SERIOUSLY OLD !

Patt
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Patt

I love my Spencer Men!

Nancy
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Nancy

I really like the character of Wyatt and I hope the writers continue in the direction they are going with the Wyatt and Hope story. I’m one of those viewers who has ceased caring for the character of Liam. I applaud B&B for writing such a heartwrenching story with the loss of Liam and Steffy’s baby. It’s one of the few storylines that was written with so much realism that women were able to connect with it and feel the pain of both Steffy and Liam. This is a real pain that many viewers of B&B have faced in their… Read more »

SteamySteffyfan
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SteamySteffyfan

I totally agree the writing for Liam’s character has been horrendenous and even go as far as saying stupid after Steffy lost the baby after all the beautiful memories they shared even if Jacqueline was taking a break that didn’t have to be written that way, Scott and Jacqueline have amazing chemistry on screen as a couple and I am hoping that when Jacqueline returns which she said she would that Brad Bell and the writers do a better job at writing for these two exceptional actors, Jacqueline will always be my favourite she is amazing and a have a… Read more »

Kay
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Kay

Thank you Nancy, I read ur comment and I totally agree with u. I use to love Liam but now no thanks the way he treated Steffy was just plain wrong (and hope). Liam should lose everything the same way Steffy did. Just so he can know how it feels. I am hoping that Steffy will return with a man that truly lives her (and only her) and that she’s. Pregnant. And I’m hoping that Hope wakes up and goes for Wyatt and they have a baby. Liam can hurt the same way he’s made both Steffy an Hope hurt… Read more »

judith
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judith

Most of the time the one at the middle of a soap triangle (even on prime time shows actually) is maybe the one pursued on screen but he/she is the one receiving more backlash from fans..Even more when it is not a full-on black/white story with the big bad villain as the interloper..in this case the villain receive the backlash and at the end automatically lose or lose AND is killed off (just see the Michael/Lauren story with Carmine being killed off on Y&R such a waste and total awful cliche storytelling..puke). So yep Liam is the one who is… Read more »

kathy
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kathy

I think liam is doing hope a great favor by trying to keep her away from those
two nut jobs Quinn and wyatt

Sophie
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Sophie

As if Brooke would even bother with Wyatt. She didn’t go after Liam or Oliver, did she?

Anyway, great interview. I LOVE how SC is realizing that there is nothing much to Liam and LOPE anymore. Why can’t Bell see that?

k/kay
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k/kay

Brooke had wall sex with Oliver thinking he was Ridge. Another one of Brad Bells crappy stories.

Ashley
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Ashley

I wanted BB to give Hope her own love story and I love the Hope/Wyatt story. I do not care if Wyatt is a naughty guy. With Hope he is genuine in his love. I only care that Wyatt genuinely loves Hope. I’m an EX Liam and Hope fan who cried for Steffy when Liam reminded her that she had been pregnant. I wanted to hug Steffy. Liam and Hope ended for me in the Spring when Steffy/Liam got married and were having a baby. I did not like how Hope kept chasing Liam. I thought Liam had made his… Read more »

judith
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judith

Wyatt is just coming on the show..give him time..he will be worse than Liam i bet lol..and he will make less years to achieve that..of course i don’t write this show but it is almost in the cards..come on..For now Liam is the scapegoat because his waffle writing and wait for what is coming for new shiny toy Wyatt..lol

Nancy
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Nancy

I have been watching the love triangle with Liam/Hope/Steffy for so long. It really became old. I wanted Liam and Hope together, but now I do not want Liam to win Hope back. Liam is a weak character at this point of the show, too much waffling between women. I know this is a Soap, but how can you go from loving one to another so fast. He needs to grow up and loose for awhile. I think when Steffy returns will definitely influence all the Spencer men. I think Liam and Steffy will eventually be together, they did have… Read more »

judith
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judith

I LOVE Brooke and Bill. Brooke doesn’t need AGAIN a new man, on the other hand Katie needs one ! That being said, from what Don seemed to subtly imply in this interview Bill and Katie will reunite pretty soon..which is a TOTAL SHAME to me..This reunion will make Katie a TOTAL PATHETIC doormat..Bill well i don’t know..it will be like he kind of settle because it is the ‘moral’ and ‘right thing to do’ and being kind of a choice by from made from pity..LAME and again we will have a Bill is straighted out by nice and moral… Read more »

Cubsfan3
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Cubsfan3

I think that Liam has to be alone for the character to grow. I think it will be amazing for SC as an actor. I loved Hope and Liam and to me they were the couple before being interfered with. I think perhaps it’s best for Liam to be put with a NEW female character down the road. I find no amazing chemistry with Leffy – at all. Steffy being “cool” with whatever Liam did – does not a great couple make. If Steffy came home and Liam went right to her – that defeats the growth for the Liam… Read more »

judith
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judith

And then you will have Wyatt ‘suddenly’ being interested in someone else whereas he is with Hope and once again the same story but with Wyatt instead of Liam in the middle of a young love triangle..just watch..lol

Mimi
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Mimi

Liam and Steffi need to be back together and happy. I think if Bill found out the real reason she left Liam, he would move mountains to find her the best medical care. Her situation is not irreversible, no matter what the small town doctors might think. Of course, there is always IVF! I can’t believe that never came up as an option from the doctors. As for Hope, I have never thought she was a good choice for Liam. She is not mature enough and, while the writers have been trying so hard to make her seem more mature… Read more »

4everDAYS
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4everDAYS

Were you a fan of MiMi on Days of our Lives?

judith
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judith

On my screen Bill seems TO NOT GIVE A DAMN about Katie and i buy totally his lust (yep) but also connection with Brooke. We don’t seem to watch the same show..and DD seemed pretty cool with his new pairing with Brooke in recent interview..however from this new interview he seems to know that Brad Bell will make his character reunite with Katie..talking all about Bill’s connection with Katie and how she is his sounding board who can make him do ‘the fight thing’ lmao..this reunion will be totally lame..but sadly it is in the cards..it will be a bore… Read more »

judith
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judith

‘the RIGHT thing’ my bad..(this expression is so corny and dumb..lollolololololo)

knighthawk
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knighthawk

Great interview with the Spencer men! The Liam and Hope pairing is what brought me back around to Bold after taking a break for a bit. I loved that sweet couple and hated the way the story was written with Steffy and Bill interfering and more than that, I started to dislike Liam for being so weak and unable to stay away from Steffy. It started to get better, and the writing was always ambiguous enough to believe as a viewer that Hope was Liam’s true love. But the pregnancy and second marriage to Steffy made it impossible to root… Read more »

Kay
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Kay

I too was a BIG fan of steam and in a way I still am but still don’t like how Liam done the whole loss of Steffy & baby scenes. I am a STEFFY fan Big fan of JMW and I am praying she will return to the show soon. As for Brooke & Bill that’s just SICK anyway u look at it. When it comes to the scenes of Brooke & Bill I want to throw up. Brooke needs to be alone or with a new different man that’s NOT MARRIED or have a woman.. loving the HOTT scenes… Read more »

Miette
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Miette

Do what I do, Kay. Whenever Brooke & Bill are on screen together, especially if they are in bed together, I pick up my Blackberry and start playing solitaire on it. Definitely MUCH more interesting than watching Brill together!!! And I don’t become nauseus either.

darnlarry
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darnlarry

i am very disappointed that hope has forgiven liam after the hell he put her through over steffy. he claim to be in love with hope and yet his indecisiveness simply proove his not ready for a commitment to anyone. hope needs to move on to someone like wyatt who can love and cherish only her. and as far as muturity she is more mature than steffy and liam has ever been. Brook and bill should both be condemed to hell!

Susie
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Susie

Liam s ruined, and i can’t see him being redeemed. I started watching the show again after years away when Hope came on. I loved her with Liam but the day Liam put Hopes ring on steffy’s finger ended my love for Lope.
I now want Hope with Wyatt, I want them to both be happy, I don’t care if Wyatt is the bad guy, I’m more interested that he loves Hope and only Hope.
Liam will never change, if steffy comes back(which I don’t believe she will) Liam will start waffling again.

knighthawk
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knighthawk

The only way I’d accept Steffy’s return is if she found some cure for her condition in Europe and came back to reunite with Liam, particularly if Hope is with Wyatt, and Liam says no thanks, Steffy…like he should have done the day he slipped that still warm ring on her finger.

Sharleen
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Sharleen

I agree with what you said about hoping that when Steffy returns with Quinn who I can’t stand that Liam finally says no to Steffy as he should have long ago. I stopped watching for a long time because every time Liam and Hope were finally going to get together it was ruined. I turned it on for just one day when Ridge was suppose to come back and in just one day I could see that Quinn is a busy body who wants to make sure her son wins Hope. It’s like Quinn has taken Bill’s place in that… Read more »

AJ
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AJ

After 2 years of getting into Bnb (was ABC transplant), I quit watching BnB, the Friday that Steffy had the motorcycle accident. I unliked the fan pages and moved on. Ran across this article and see that you are still attempting to fight the good fight for better storylines and character development. Waste of time, they never listen! After learning that Jacqueline Woods was leaving, I guess they had to end the relationship, but this storyline like we said in the old days was “tore up from the floor up.” Nothing can replace that chemistry. Alas, BnB only does and… Read more »

4everDAYS
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4everDAYS

Do yourself a favor, watch Days of our Lives.

k/kay
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k/kay

AJ I went into the bathroom with Taylor on July 3rd and never been back. Don Diamont has been all over with interviews trying to sell Brooke and Bill I guess Brad Bell cuts his steak for him before he eats it too.

judith
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judith

It is pretty clear that Brad Bell is planning a Bill and Katie reunion..therefore DD has to sell once again Bill and Katie..just see..he did not even mention Brooke in this interview and while talking about Liam he add several times Katie and her connection to Bill..so so obvious..which is lame..imho..but well i bet it is already filming..Let’s hope now the show will not be once again a BORE, Bill and Katie pairing is not great soap opera, nope nope nope Brad Bell…zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

jenette
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jenette

i love wyatt and hope togather they are good used to love hope and liam but i am changeing my mind get your women wyatt

bc
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bc

It’s the new eric and ridge and thorne w/ the same storylines abt fighting for women and fighting for a company and fighting for whatever stupid and tired storyline. Same old from the day sudsers and same old from the night sudsers too. Seldom any racial diversity from day and night sudsers. Buh bye to this backwards genre of sudsers.

jaybird369
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jaybird369

At this point, Liam is such a MORONIC TOOL!!!!! Hey, here’s an idea/solution: Put Liam and that whiny-ass ice princess Caroline together as a so-called couple. PROBLEM SOLVED!!!!!

judith
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judith

They are related..i know B&B is kind of incestuous and known for that but still..too much is TOO MUCH..They will probably hire a new gal for Liam..while the new shiny couple Hope and Wyatt will enjoy their romance for FIVE SECONDS and then Wyatt will show his interest for someone else and Hope will talk and whine and rant about her destiny but this time not with Liam (old news) but Wyatt ! lol

arnease
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arnease

I never liked the fact that Liam’s character had not backbone or mind of his own. Whatever Bill wanted he did and forgave him. For a while I left B&B. Now that they have decided to put Brooke and Bill together I must say goodbye because this story line offends my moral senses. I can’t imagine anyone in real life wanting to see their sister with their husband or ex. It just doesn’t fly.

judith
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judith

‘moral sense’ you are joking right ?
Soap operas are MADE of drama like cheating, romance between sister’s husband, brother’s wife ect…Ah, yes there are also some little ‘things’ like murders, attempted murders, drugging,coming back from the death, evil twins, baby-switch, rape ect..i guess all these soap opera staples don’t ‘offend your moral senses’ ? Right ? RIDICULOUS.
Brooke is certainly NOT the only one soap character banging the EX-husband of her sibling..actually MOST of soap characters did or DO IT !

jaybird369
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jaybird369

Judith…I totally agree!!!!! And, on soaps, let’s not forget the following: multiple marriages, all kinds of REVENGE, murder trials, rape trials and NON-STOP love triangles. Back in the day, remember when B & B’s Ridge, um, volleyed back and forth between BOTH Brooke and Taylor? Over the years, Ridge ping-ponged the ball to death (or whatever) in going back and forth from Brooke to Taylor over and over again…LOL!!!!! And, if Bill and Brooke do get married, their, um, marriage probably won’t last all that long. After all, it’s a S-O-A-P!!!!! Period.

Becky
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Becky

What are you doing by putting Bill with Katie sister hasn’t she slept with enough of the man on B&B. let Liam and Hope be happy let them get married whatever you do don’t let her go to Wyatt.

Pam
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Pam

Liam has no clue who and what Hope needs and he’s been with her for 3 years. I think it’s time for Wyatt to take over and show Hope what a devoted man who loves only her is like. Liam never seems to get it. He always finds a way to hurt Hope and will continue hurting her because his feelings are divided between two women and has no ability to feel and understand anything until it’s too late. He’s too insensitive to be serious with anyone and his marriages never last more than 5 minutes so why bother if… Read more »

Betty Dean
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Betty Dean

No Joshua and H;ope if I wanted someone I would know all the right things to say to them to specially especially when they are complaining to me all the time about it I would know exactly what to say to.hope and Liam together and go from there get rid of Josh

Donna
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Donna

I feel like a lot of peeps watching this show & I have watched since almost the beginning am tired of the Brook Logan show..I don’t really think she is all that anymore..I have heard that she is on the writing team & she wanted to work with Don Diamont so there you have it…Whatever Brook wants Baby Bell gives…It’s not fair & that is why the ratings have tanked in this show..Lets face it Heather is the one who won the emmy cause she has the acting chops besides not having to sleep with every Tom, Dick & Harry… Read more »

Betty Dean
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Betty Dean

The Bold and the Beautiful, I’m with the rest to you I am tied of Brook Logan she has played out.please find another Star role. Put Hope and Eing together get rid of the new guy Joshua. Bring Ridge back,don’t matter who and put him with somebody else. please get red of Bill Spencer. He played out years ago on the Young and the Restless.

Luv wyatt
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Luv wyatt

Lol at someone saying
Ratings tanked! The show is doing so much better now that Steffy and her psycho mo
Are gone.

Steffy winning all the time, with all her lies was ruining the show. Liam is ruined after the second wedding.

It was smart to fire Steffy and Taylor. They were to evil and hated.

Plus, they both were strangely obsessed with Logans.

KKL is awesome!! Brooke is the best.

Barbara
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Barbara

I haven’t taken to the character of Wyatt. I find his acting a little over the top. He seems to mug for the camera to me. Also, I like Hope with Liam better. I find myself looking away sometimes when he is on,. Also, the character is like his mother – dishonest & capable of doing whatever is to his advantage, or what they think is to his advantage.

Interviews

Y&R’s Peter Bergman Talks On Dina’s Death & How It Will Impact Jack, His Final Scenes With Marla Adams & Taping During COVID-19

The Abbott family is reeling from the death of their mother, Dina Mergeron, who passed away from complications from Alzheimer’s disease at the end of last Friday’s episode; signaling the end of an era for Dina’s portrayer, Marla Adams.  In a pivotal and heart-breaking scene, Dina shares one last goodbye with her children: Traci (Beth Maitland), Ashley (Eileen Davidson) and of course, Jack (Peter Bergman).

Today, the drama continues as the Abbott’s grieve Dina’s death and its aftermath while they remember the life of their flawed mother. This puts Jack at the epicenter of the family, and like it, or not, the new head of the clan.  What does the future hold for him now?

Michael Fairman TV chatted with three-time Daytime Emmy winner, Peter Bergman, who has embodied Jack for over 30 years on the top-rated CBS Daytime drama, to get his thoughts on: how Y&R needed to handle Dina’s death within the confines of the coronavirus pandemic and its safety protocols, what he felt about playing those final scenes with Marla Adams and the significance of the ‘teardrop of love’, and a preview of what fans can expect in the coming days as the impact of Dina’s death will be felt by the Abbott children and extended family.

 

An actor’s actor, you can always expect a conversation with Peter to be forthright, candid and enlightening, and this one was no different.  Here’s what one of the genre’s absolute best had to share about the significance of this story and more.

How has it been returning to Y&R during the pandemic?  I bet you never thought in all of your years in daytime, that you would be doing your scenes socially-distanced, sitting or standing, so far apart from your castmates.

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PETER:  Just getting back to work felt great, loved that.  I wasn’t involved really in romantic scenes at this point, so that I didn’t have to do.  So, all in all, I was very happy to be back, and socially-distancing didn’t really bother me at all, and then Dina died.  Doing that from six feet away was just awful.  You saw the limits at a time where not any of us could be within six feet of each other; where you would usually hold a hand, stroke a brow, and talk softly.  So, I think the writers did what they needed to do to make it work for Dina’s exit.  We are in the middle of COVID, in case anybody forgot, and so you have to ask, ‘Does America really want to watch an elderly woman die in the middle of the Abbott living room or anywhere else?’  So, we had to have Dina’s exit without looking at a dead body, out of respect for the times we are living in.  We had to do a strong, powerful, pivotal scene with our hands tied behind our backs.

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It’s so interesting that you say that because that’s how I felt watching it, knowing what it would have been like, if Jack, Ashley and Traci would have been with Dina at her bedside, up till the end, for instance.  But all of that said, Peter, I got so choked up in your last moments with Marla.  Jack is just sitting there and Dina is telling him how much she loved him and you’re doing the thing that only Peter Bergman can do as the tears well-up in your eyes.  As we have talked about previously, my mom died from complications from Alzheimer’s, so these are always tough types of scenes for me to watch.  I am sure it was also for those in the audience, who have lost a loved one to this disease, many of whom reached out to me on social media following its airing.

PETER:  It’s got to be tough for you to watch.  I get that.

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Yes, so I felt for Jack and Dina in the moment as a son and his mother.  But what did you think about how the scene was written, and what Dina was saying to Jack and his sisters as her final goodbyes to her children and their reactions to it?

PETER:  As written, something in this necklace triggers something in Dina that brings her out of a stupor, brings her out of the murk, the fog for a brief instant to tell the people who she cares the most about that she loves them in slightly different ways.  I have, with everything in me, a struggle to always add in there, “I have a complicated relationship with my mother.”  I’ve added that line in there so many times over the years, you have no idea.  It was a complicated relationship because by the time she dies, there is no kind of straightening that out, there is no kind of Jack looking for answers. The depth of what Ashley is feeling, what Traci is feeling, what Jack is feeling, were kind of lost because of the way we had to do it. The writers had to do it, so I’m not blaming anyone, but because of the way we had to do it, there was no, “Wow, why isn’t Ashley crying?  Why is she just so stoic that this isn’t touching her at all?” because she can’t go there. Traci feeling like she found her place in the family simply by Dina saying, “You’re the beating heart of this family,” and Jack, who is doing the right thing, “She should leave peacefully, she should leave feeling loved, we should all be here, we should give her nothing but love,” damn, this is complicated.  You couldn’t have any of those things.  .  Hopefully, some of that slid in there and we wedged some of those complexities into it, but it was hard to write a complex scene with the situation as it was.  We needed to get it done it one day.  We did not need to drag this out.  Again, were it not COVID time, sure, let’s drag it out.  Let’s spend some time on this.  People die.  Let’s watch the family process a death.

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I just think of what it all means for Jack moving forward.  Dina basically tells him, “You’re in charge of the family. Look after the family.” That’s kind of where it’s been going for Jack this whole time.  I don’t know if that’s what Jack wanted, but that’s where he is ending up.

PETER:  Right!  That’s where he ends up, and you know, this has been a long time coming.  Dad dies, and it is pretty clear that he’s got to step up, and his mom comes into town, and she’s not just his mother.  She’s Ashley’s mother; she’s Traci’s mother, we’ve got to look out for her and give her the dignity and things like that.  Now, there is just no getting around it.  Jack is the head of the family.  That’s the way it fell.  Twenty-five years ago, was Jack ready to be head of anything?  Absolutely not, but I think enough has happened to Jack now: enough heartache, enough growth, enough introspection, enough losing people, that Jack might just be ready for this job.

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When Marla Adams came back to Y&R 2017, and they started telling the Alzheimer’s storyline, it brought up such abandonment issues for Jack and rightfully so, about how a mother could just leave her family and children,  Throughout all that,  you did such poignant work.

PETER:  I wanted that to be in there at the very end.  One of the powerful parts in this whole thing is that Jack wanted to scream at Dina every bit as much as he wanted to hug her.  That was there for quite a while, and Jack had to kind of come to terms with, “Hey, you’ve been leaning on this excuse for quite a time.  She’s here.  She can’t do you any harm.  She feels bad about what happened.  What do you want, Jack?”

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One of the highlights of this storyline was when Y&R explored the history and relationship between the siblings, Jack, Ashley and Traci.  We saw their younger versions as the show flash-backed to when Dina left John and the Abbott family.

PETER:  Between the writers and Peter Bergman, we built this story that the night that Dina left, Dad was upstairs with the girls, they were weeping inconsolably, there was no fixing it, there was no telling them that everything was going to be all right.  He didn’t want to lie to them and say she will be right back, he told them, “She’s not coming back,” and he comes downstairs, and Jack is fourteen-years-old, and a little confused, but decided to say to his dad, “Hey, can I help?”  He looks across the room, and his dad is weeping, first time he had ever seen that.  His father is weeping, and he said, “Jack, you’re going to have to help me with the girls.  I can’t do all of this,” and it changed Jack’s life forever.  Jack was a parent to Ashley for a good part of their relationship.  So, all of this stuff with Jack’s identity, all of the fighting with Ashley, all of the Jabot madness is Ashley finally getting to say, “I don’t need a father!  You’re not my father.  Stop talking to me like you’re going to fix things for me!  I’m sick of it.”  All done by Dina … all truly caused by Dina.

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In my interview with Marla, she told me that at the end of her last scene, you and many others came back to the set to pay tribute to her.

PETER:  We did.  The show had arranged it, and Tony Morina, the executive producer, stepped out on the soundstage with a microphone, and Marla sat on the sofa in the Abbott living room. Tony began telling a lovely, lovely story about how far back his relationship with her goes because Marla and Tony wife’s, Sally Sussman (Ex- head writer, Y&R), also had a long-standing relationship.  Tony was just so grand and gracious in saying that there are some people who, if they weren’t an actor, they’d be this or that or the other thing, but that Marla was born to be an actress.  That’s what she is, and it was so generous.  I think she got three and a half years that she didn’t expect to get out of this.  It was supposed to be a six-month storyline, and four years later, she was still there, and it was a good thing for her, and a unique story turn for the rest of us.  It really was.  It was a powerful thing, and now the Abbott family has a new shape.  There are three adults there: Ashley has established her independence, she is not around as much, she is back and forth between Paris, and Genoa City, Traci is trying to be as supportive and kind as she can be, but essentially, Jack is in the big house by himself.

Yep!  Well, now we’ve got to find Jack a good woman.

PETER:  Yes, or a bad woman.

… Or a bad woman!  I’ll take him in a relationship with someone to stir things up.  I also hear coming up, there will be the reading of Dina’s will.  Is there anything you can tease about that?

PETER:  There is a will read, yes.  No one knows what to expect, and Dina … in the end… comes through for almost everybody…

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Well … that ought to be good.

PETER:  Yep… really comes through for almost everybody, and you know, the Abbott children are wealthier, and all three of them are alone, and in no small thanks to Dina for that.  These are three adults who have been very unlucky in love.  Of course, this is the next challenge.  I don’t mean to assume that I have any idea of what you went through in losing your mom, but there is a point at which you also have to let go and say, “Okay, now it is just me, and what do I want to do with this life?  I’ve used this as a reason not to move forward for a good while.  What am I going to do now?”  I think the next turn in the Jack Abbott story comes pretty organically.  Dina’s death frees Jack to be just as alone as he has ever been.

No matter what Jack does, including the bad things, you always see the inner-pain that is very palpable within him, as you have portrayed him.

PETER:  Yes, but he really has grown in the last 30 years.  Jack is hungry for more right now, and he couldn’t really be that way with Mom in the house.  He didn’t have time for that.  Now he has all of the time in the world.  So, we’ll see what he does with that.

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I understand there is a funeral for Dina, but it will be off-camera?  I guess, because of COVID, it is better that way.

PETER:  That’s true and it’s off camera, that’s correct.  What’s important at most of these things isn’t what happens at the gravesite, it is what happens at the reception afterwards, and that is also a fun turn.  So, they all agree as a family they are going to do it at Society, and they kind of close the joint and make it their own little party, and someone shows up who isn’t expected, and it throws a really, really different vibe into the whole thing, and everybody has to adapt.  It’s actually fun, what it turns into.  It turns into a memory fest with crazy stories of Dina.

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Do you have a favorite moment, or memory, of a scene you played with Marla?

PETER:  I think I had a day where Jack tried to get through to her and tell her, “Do you realize the damage you did?  Do you realize?” and she wasn’t able to take it in, and he went to Traci, and he said, “I want to shake her.  I want to yell at her… and I want to protect her.”  I thought there was something just so rich about that.  That was my favorite moment, my favorite part of it, when Jack finally said, “She’s going, man.  We’ve got to get this conversation done now.  We’ve got to talk this through,” and he was too late.   She was too far along with Alzheimer’s.  She wasn’t up to it.  She couldn’t do it.

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And now here is Jack; and his parents are both gone.  There is no Jerry Douglas or Marla Adams on the show as both John and Dina have passed on within the history of The Young and the Restless.

PETER:  Again, you were generous enough to share your own personal experience, but isn’t it amazing?  Wow, you’re the grownup now.  Isn’t it amazing?  That’s what the Abbott’s are going through: just what you went through.  There is no older generation to turn to for anything.  We are the older generation.  It’s powerful stuff, and I’m really, really grateful for anytime that Ashley, Jack, and Traci are together talking about those things, talking about, “Wow, okay, that just happened… where do we go from here?”  It’s going to be really interesting.  If you asked me, “Over the last 30 years that you’ve played Jack Abbott, have there been many times where you’ve thought, ‘I’ve got no idea where this is going!’”  I would say, “Yeah, right now.”  I’ve got no idea where we are going with this.

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There has been much speculation that the “teardrop of love” necklace will lead Jack to a new romance, or some new adventure in his life.  They spent a lot of time mentioning it in short order, that it would seem it’s not just to bring Dina some closure.  What are your thoughts on it?

PETER:  I think it has legs.  I think you’re going to hear about it again. There is something in there, and I don’t know if it’s the teardrop’s magic charm or that its history is not what it was, or it gets stolen.  I don’t know, but I think we have spent enough time saying ‘teardrop of love’, that there could be a story there.

In Dina’s final moments where Jack brings her the ‘teardrop of love’, wasn’t it symbolic to her because it was her acknowledgement of having her family back together and with her at all times? There is a back-story to that piece of jewelry as well.

PETER:  The point of the necklace is, “This was when I was truly happy, when I had this necklace, when it is all back together,” and maybe we are to know something more about the teardrop…?  I don’t know.  So, this was a gift to her before Jack was born.  She wore it home from the hospital when she brought him home, but we don’t know exactly what year she got it, and we don’t know exactly what year she lost it.  It was stolen, and it was on the black market for a while, and Victor (Eric Braeden) was looking into it.  It was clear that it was very important to Dina.  So, Jack, against his own wishes, said, “No, I’ve got to do the right thing.  I’ve got to try to trace this thing down.  It clearly means something to her.  Maybe she is trying to tell us something.  God only knows.”  So, he did the right thing, not because, “I want to make Mommy happy,” but because he forced himself to do the right thing, to find the damn necklace, and to see what this is about.  Then, we saw the affect it had when he gave it to her.

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It’s always good to chat and check-in with you during these key and historical moments in the life of the character of Jack Abbott.  There have been many throughout your time on Y&R, and it will be interesting to see where this goes from here.

PETER:  It will be, and I’m telling you, this is a real moment.  Normally, we just go from one story into the next, into the next, and this one has been hanging for so long that, “Okay, now that it is over, wow, what is going to happen to Jack?”  I’m just as curious as everybody else.

So, what do you think will happen next for Jack?  Did you reach for the hankies in Peter’s final scenes with Marla Adams?  Share your thoughts via the comment section below.

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Marla Adams Talks Her Final Scenes As Dina Mergeron, The Alzheimer’s Storyline, and Her Touching Farewell

Today on The Young and the Restless marks the end of the enduring run of Marla Adams in the role of Dina Mergeron. In story, Dina passes away from complications from Alzheimer’s disease. It’s a storyline that started four years ago when the CBS Daytime drama brought back the character and Adams; and one that has deeply affected many in the viewing audience who have also had their own personal experience of losing a loved one to this dreadful disease.

If you have not seen today’s episode yet, you may not want to read any further, but needless to say, make sure you have the hankies ready for Dina’s final moments with her children and how she leaves this earth, which will be remembered for quite some time to come.

Marla originated the role of the rich and spoiled Abbott matriarch back in 1983 and portrayed the role on and off for what amounts to five decades. Her classic scenes with Jerry Douglas (Ex-John), Eileen Davidson (Ashley) and so many more from the iconic soap, always made for great and complex stories.

 

With this her final airdate on Y&R, it also puts an exclamation point for Marla on an incredible daytime career having also appeared on: The Bold and the Beautiful. Capitol, Days of our Lives, Generations and The Secret Storm

Michael Fairman TV chatted with Adams in this very special conversation where she shared with us how it was to play these heartbreaking last scenes, the importance of the ‘teardrop of love’ necklace to the story, how Y&R gave her the most overwhelming and beautiful send-off, and her ‘thank you’s’ to all of you, who have been her extended family and are sad to see her go. She is one-of-a-kind …and now, here’s Marla.

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Marla, I am so glad we have the opportunity to chat in this full-circle moment as you have brought the character of Dina to a close.

MARLA:  It’s such a joy to talk to you.  It seems like yesterday and an eternity as well.   I thought of you so much, and I remember talking to you specifically with all of the different interviews over the years, when I was at the studio.  But I will always remember the interview you did with me and Beth Maitland (Traci), my darling soul sister, and you talked to me about your mother who has since passed on from Alzheimer’s.  I’ll never forget what you had to say all those months ago

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Yes, and when as audience members we watch these stories unfold with characters we have loved, or watched on our screens for years, and there is a death, we feel connected to them as well.  And in this case, as a child who has lost a parent to Alzheimer’s, like many in the audience, you ask yourself first, “Can I watch this?” It hits very close to home, but I’m sure when people watch today’s episode of Y&R and see Dina pass away, they will be extraordinarily moved.

MARLA:  Oh, my gosh.  Wait until you people see Friday’s show.  I know they will be moved.  They should be!  I’ve got friends who I’ve already said to, “Get your Kleenex box out.”  It’s so beautiful what happens at the end of the episode.

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How did you feel about playing Dina’s final scenes?

MARLA:  It was wonderful because it showed her lifetime of sorrow and regret, and what was so wonderful was the fact that the hero of the whole thing is the kindness and respect that she really did have for her whole family.  They had the most beautiful sendoff for me.  They sent me a limo!  I went to the studio, and dear Patti Denney (Make-up artist, Y&R) was there, of course with all kinds of makeup and everything else, and she looked like she was entering the ER room for Covid-19, because of all the safety protocols we must have.  It was unbelievable, the kindness that was served to me.  After we finished taping my final scenes, I came back to the soundstage and they totally surprised me.  Dear Tony Morina (executive producer, Y&R) and Sally Sussman (Ex-head writer, Y&R) were there, and Tony spoke about me, and so did my Y&R extended family and on-screen children: Peter Bergman (Jack), and Beth Maitland, and Eileen Davidson, and much of it was put on tape (see excerpts in video below).  Afterwards, Tony gave me beautiful flowers.  I was driven back home after this, and I felt really special, and it was just amazing to me. I had written Josh Griffith (Current head-writer and co-executive producer, Y&R) a ‘thank you’ for writing the show with his wonderful people, but I never heard back, but when I walked in my apartment, the phone was ringing.  Guess who?  It’s Josh!  He said, “I waited until I knew you would be home to thank you,” and I felt so lovey-doved up, I couldn’t believe it.  I want to read something to you that I received in the wonderful flowers that came the next day from CBS Daytime executive Margot Wain and others.  The flowers were so big that they didn’t fit on the bar!  The card read: “Thank you for bringing the amazing force that is Abbott matriarch, Dina Mergeron to countless fans of The Young and the Restless.  Your vast contribution to Y&R and CBS for more than five decades is unparalleled.  We are forever grateful for all you’ve brought to Y&R as both a consummate professional and a cherished co-worker.  All our best wishes.”  I was just so touched by the sentiments.

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I also want to share something with you.  When it was revealed in the promo that came out last week that this would be your last show, I received so many notifications on social media, saying, “Oh, my God!  We love Marla!  You have to interview her!”  You are loved by the Y&R fans.  I hope you know that!  They’re sad to see you go, because you’re a legacy character to them, and soap fans have deep connections to characters that have been on their favorite soaps for decades.

MARLA:  Five decades!  My God!  I’m eighty-freaking-two.  I can’t believe it.

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In story, Jack was on a mission to get the ‘teardrop of love’ necklace back to Dina before she died, hoping that she would have one last moment of lucidity and would recall it and it would hopefully make her happy.   He moves heaven on earth to get it, and does, and brings it to her and viewers saw her reaction. 

MARLA:  The necklace had never been anywhere before in story except recently, but I said to myself that I would play it ‘quietly and graciously’, because it made for such a beautiful moment for Dina with her children.

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For Dina, the necklace was a symbol of remaining connected to her family and her children, even when she was not with them all of those years.  In your final scenes, Dina had these moments to say goodbye to each of your children.  Do you remember looking at Eileen, Traci, and Peter taping those highly emotional beats?

MARLA:  Yes, they were so there for me.  They are an extended family that is so precious to me, and playing this iconic character has been, too.  I remember when Sally Sussman told me a few years ago, “ I’m going to bring you back on The Young and the Restless, but you’ve got Alzheimer’s,” and I said, ‘What!?  You’re bringing me back so you can kill me off?’ and she said, “Oh no, it’ll be about a year.”  That dissolved into four years, and now five decades had passed and I was still on Y&R.  I am beyond grateful.

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As an actress, was it hard to play Dina’s final moments when she goes to the light to join her beloved, John?

MARLA:  It was heart-wrenching for me.  In the story, Dina died when she went outside and to the front door of the Abbott home.  They did not tell me before-hand, and that’s why it was so wonderful.  I hope they came in for a closeup of that because I had no makeup on, it was beautiful, and then, Dina said, “Oh, John.”  I’ve done everything from movies, to daytime, to nighttime, to Broadway, but that was the iconic moment for me, to do this gig with wonderful, wonderful actors and friends, and to do this particular storyline.

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It was 1983 when you first appeared on Y&R.  And through the years, Dina did not do such great things! She had an affair with Brent Davis who was the biological father of Ashley that caused such a rift between mother and daughter for years.  She abandoned the Abbott children and walked out on them and her marriage to John, and that’s just for starters! Dina was a complicated character. Did you love the fact that she could be very selfish at times?

MARLA:  You think?  That’s why I loved her.  Of course!  I can be very selfish, too.  You have to be selfish if you’re an actor, good God. (Laughs).

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It was great that The Young and the Restless brought you back four years ago so that through the telling of the Alzheimer’s storyline that Dina was able to somewhat repair her relationships with her children.  Obviously, over the last many months the audience could not witness the more day to day progression and toll the disease took on Dina and her family in its final stages, but unfortunately with the way COVID-19 has affected shooting daytime soap operas, and all of our lives, including safety protocols, I am sure plans had to be altered,

MARLA:  Of course.  As an actress, this was the most important role of my life, and to have her final moments spread out in one day really is because of all of the fans who have been writing in and wanting to see Dina again,

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People were rooting for you to win the Daytime Emmy back in 2018 when you were nominated for Outstanding Supporting Actress in a Drama Series. That must be a nice moment to carry with you from playing Dina’s final storyline.

MARLA:  Yes, and I should have won!  Eric Braeden (Victor, Y&R) was furious. (Laughs)  He said, “What do you mean, darling, you should have won!  Goddammit!” He’s a wonderful man and a good friend.  He came to pick me up several times to go to the studio for my last few shows, and that’s the kind of mensch he is. So, I feel just so blessed and I feel great love and loss.  I would like Dina to come back as a ghost, but I have no idea, if that will happen or not. But if the fans would be interested in seeing Dina as a ghost … make sure to write in to the show and tell them!

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Speaking of the fans that have followed you for decades on Y&R, what would you want to say to them now that Dina has passed on?

MARLA:  Thank you, from the bottom of my heart for all of the love, the support, and the chance to play Dina out… and I’m thankful that you cared, and loved her, up till the end.

So what did you think about Dina’s final moments on today’s Y&R? Will you miss Marla Adams?  Share your thoughts via the comment section below.  But first check out the special behind the scenes tribute for Marla, followed by The Michael Fairman Channel’s interview with Marla and Beth Maitland from Y&R’s 45th anniversary celebration referred to during the above conversation.

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B&B’s Jacqueline MacInnes Wood Talks Steffy’s Opioid Addiction Storyline, The Emotional Scenes & Adjustments Made Due To COVID-19

If you have been watching CBS’ The Bold and the Beautiful over the last two weeks, you have witnessed the compelling and important storyline unfold with Steffy Forrester (Jacqueline MacInnes Wood) at its epicenter.  In a harrowing tale of opioid addiction that can so easily happen to anyone given the circumstances, the daytime drama took on a social issue prevalent and rising in our society today.

This story gave Daytime Emmy-winner, Jacqueline MacInnes Wood another chance to shine in some of the most deeply affecting episodes and scenes in soaps of 2020.  In story, after Bill Spencer (Don Diamont) accidently hit Steffy with his car while she was on her motorcycle; she became hospitalized to treat her injuries. Once there, she met new love interest, Dr. Finnegan or as the show calls him “Finn” played by newcomer, Tanner Novlan. Finn prescribes pain medication for her. But before you know it, once Steffy is out of the hospital and back at home she struggles with the pain and the isolation of her life, and the losses she has experienced over the last many months, and before you know it, she is addicted, and no longer getting the pills from her doctor, but by any means possible.

Last week, we named Jacqui’s work the ‘Power Performance of the Week’, but we are also giving it to her again this week for her masterful performance on Tuesday’s episode, where Steffy breaks down after being confronted by Finn, Liam (Scott Clifton) and her father, Ridge (Thorsten Kaye) and finally coming to the stark realization that she is an addict.

Michael Fairman TV caught up with Jacqueline MacInnes Wood after all the key scenes had aired to: get the inside Intel on what went down taping those moments, and how the show made some important decisions amid the coronavirus pandemic about the telling of this storyline. Here is what Jacqui had to say about: her co-stars, herself, and what she learned about those who struggle with addiction.

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How did you feel about being handed the ball to tell this important story, and how much were you told ahead of time?

JACQUELINE: Originally, I was told that we were going to tell this story, and that was before Covid-19.  So, it was literally the week before we went into lockdown, and we were about to dive into this story. Obviously, I am so grateful to be able to tell this story because traditionally The Bold and the Beautiful has a long list of social stories that we are known for telling.  It is something that that we need to talk about because it is happening, and it is happening everywhere.  Someone knows somebody – it is in our family, or our friends are dealing with this, and I didn’t realize how close to home it was for so many people.  I think that with our show, the way we balance drama, and romance, and real social issues that really touch people, is special.  I noticed that throughout this week with so many people reaching out to me.  People who are police officers, to people who actually work with people who are addicted, people who were addicted have reached out to me.  There have been a lot, but I’m very honored, again, to dive into this story.

A lot of fans and viewers remarked along the lines of “Wow, Steffy got addicted very fast,” because it felt like the story kind of accelerated itself, and some people are like, “Well, they just told it too fast.”  I wondered how you felt about that, knowing what you know about soap operas and research you may have done on addictions.

JACQUELINE:  I did some research on YouTube on opioid addiction from first-hand accounts of addicts and the effect on just them, but also on the grief it had caused their families. I originally had mistakenly thought, “It must take years to become addicted,” and I was very surprised by how quickly and easily one can be trapped in pain management, and many cases are heartbreaking.  You always think, with opioids, “Oh, this can’t happen to a lot of people,” but it’s not just, “Oh, the ‘crackhead’ down the street…”  It could be a mom, or these people who have a surgery, or an accident, and then they just get on these pills, and it happens so quickly.  Yes, the storyline happened extremely fast, but there is truth to it because addiction does happen very quickly in this world.  The other thing I have to say, I think what Brad Bell (executive producer and head writer, B&B) did so elegantly, is that we were going to tell this story, and we were going to tell this story for a very long time.  I love that he was very perceptive to this – that we are in a dark time right now.  It’s a dark world, and I think that it is important, again, to shed some light on this, but we didn’t want to necessarily drag it on too long because it’s like, you watch every news outlet, and it’s depressing, and it’s depressing everywhere.  Before Covid-19, this story would have been a lot longer, and I think it was kind of realizing, “Let’s take it back.  But, let’s dive into this.” I think we were also being mindful of the viewers because we are shedding light on this, but also, opioid addiction had now skyrocketed through this pandemic, and this quarantine.  I think, again, it’s important to tell this story, but we didn’t want to be another show that is just so depressing right now during such a depressing time.

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Right, so the story won’t be as elongated , but obviously, she will always have this addiction now, which is always great as a character, to delve back into, that Steffy will have in her physical and emotional make-up now.

JACQUELINE:  Absolutely.  She will always have that.  She will always have to be mindful of it.

What did you think about Dr. Finn in all of this?  Do you think that he should have caught on earlier that this was happening to Steffy?

JACQUELINE:  (Laughs) Yes, absolutely.  I think, Steffy was pretty good at hiding it from him, especially the last time when she invited him over, and she said she didn’t need the pills.  However, on Tuesday’s episode when there was that huge explosion, and he really got to see that visceral side of Steffy as defiant and angry, that was a lot for him to take in.  Tanner has been doing such an incredible job of diving into this and telling this story, but yeah, you wonder if Finn noticed, but again, I do think Steffy was pretty good at hiding it.

She was pretty slick, but when she got the pills from Vinny, I kept thinking, “What did he give her?”, because they seemed awfully strong, or laced obviously with another drug. 

JACQUELINE:  When Steffy got the pills from Vinny, that was the first thing I said, “Is this just opioids?” Now, she’s getting it off the street, and we just don’t know.  It’s laced with God-knows-what.  She has no idea because she’s not getting it from an actual doctor; she’s getting it from Vinny.

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So, when Tanner came to the show, did you read screen-test with him?  What was your initial thought of him and Steffy finally having a potential new relationship?

JACQUELINE:  He is absolutely wonderful.  It’s funny because we have a lot of friends in common, and he is a fellow Canadian, and we bonded over that.  He originally screen-tested, I think, a few days before we went into lockdown.  So, who knew that we were not going to be able to work with each other for months and months and months, but he has been completely added to the group, and it is a different world that we are navigating, especially with how we are filming on set and the 8 feet apart rules, and you have these emotional scenes, and you feel like you just want to grab someone, and hold them, and cry.  I have so many fans going, “My God, I just wanted one of the characters to hold you!” and then you’re like, “COVID,” and nobody can really touch me, so…

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Isn’t he kissing his wife though as your stand-in?  B&B alum, Kayla Ewell?

JACQUELINE: Yes, yes he is!  I just thought it was priceless that, how long have I been on the show, that Steffy has just been pining away for Liam for years, and years, and years, and finally gets the go-ahead, and she’s going to get a new love interest, and I’m like, “Woo-hoo!” and then, COVID happened, and I find out, “Your love interest is going to be a doll!”  So, he gets his wife, which is great.  My husband has been completely supportive, but my husband has not come in.  I don’t think it would work playing opposite him as Tanner, but his wife actually has a very similar look to me, which is great.  So, she’s been in a few times, which has been amazing!  I get the foam doll. (Laughs)

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I was just thinking it’s so funny, too.  Steffy FINALLY gets a new man, but she is with a doll! 

JACQUELINE:  I know, I know.

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What’s great about when you get to play these kinds of emotional levels in an addiction storyline … or anything that kind of flips the character’s mental state, is that you get to see the anguish.  You know, we’ve never seen Steffy discuss or really say anything about having Beth taken from her, whom she raised her as ‘Phoebe’, and then losing Liam to Hope, and this is kind of addressing her pain through this story arc, which I thought was really good, that it wasn’t just swept under the table.  The characters, the audience, and Steffy were realizing that she had emotional baggage and distress over those losses.  How did you feel when taping those scenes with the confrontation where she pulls out a switchblade on Brooke (Katherine Kelly Lang), Ridge, Liam and Hope (Annika Noelle)? Those were great scenes. 

JACQUELINE:  Thank you, thank you.  We didn’t know how we were going to be able to do these scenes.

Because of the social distancing?

JACQUELINE:  Well, yeah, social distancing!  We did it in one take.  It was a long 10-12 page scene.

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Well, the final 7 minutes of that episode were just a riveting; which included that knife scene, which in itself was gut-wrenching to watch, as I assume it must have been to play?

JACQUELINE:  It was a big scene, and it was a big, emotional week for all of us, obviously, and I couldn’t have done it without my cast.  They were so phenomenal as well.  We were trying to think, “How are we going to do this?”  Thorsten Kaye came up with this idea that Steffy should have a knife because Ridge would want to go to her and grab her, and the only thing that would maybe keep him away.  She is so angry, and she does have so much emotional baggage, and yes, she is in pain from her motorcycle accident, but I think that a lot of people saw in that phone call from Hope, where Hope said, “Oh, Kelly wants to spend another night,” that was that whole mental shift of, “Oh, my God, this is my worst fear.  It’s finally happening.  My daughter doesn’t want to stay here.  I am truly alone.  I don’t have anybody.”  Her life up to now has been about raising Kelly, and then that was that whole baggage unload – the pain of all of the years of what the Logans had done to the Forresters – it was just a domino effect. She obviously is not dealing with the pain in a pragmatic way.  I think Steffy was using the pills to mitigate her misery, physically and emotionally.

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I think there were two turning points … after the switchblade incident, when she finally realized, “Oh, my God, what am I doing?  I’ve got this knife,” and she gets rid of it.  She does seem to have these moments (in that episode and the one that aired Tuesday) where she realizes, “Oh, my God, I’m messed up,” which were heartbreaking moments.  Do you remember playing that moment of, “Oh, my God, I’m an addict,” where Steffy admitted it out loud?

JACQUELINE:  Yeah!  It was extremely difficult.  I’m really good at being able to work on set and being able to leave it behind.  That’s the one thing that people will say to me, “What is it like off of set?  It must be so emotional for you!”  Once we say cut, I’m done.  I don’t mentally check out from the scenes, but I’m just able to let go because we just have so many episodes and so many emotional scenes, but I have to say this took a little while to shake.  I had to get into my car, and I was still emotional, and I had to put some good music on, and blare it, and drive home.  To know that these things are happening in the world and it is happening to so many people, it just breaks my heart, and I still get emotional about it.  It is gut-wrenching to know that this happens.  When I have those emotional scenes, (especially like that) I can’t fake it.  That’s just not who I am.  I can’t just fake cry to get through it.  Yeah, I’m an actor, but even though we film so quickly, even though it’s usually just one take, even though we are crying all day with all of these scenes, I really like to emotionally get there.  Obviously, over the years, I’ve learned to get there quicker, and I am really proud of myself for that, but what you see is what you get.  Those are real emotions.  I am just as present as I possibly can be in that scene and just listening to Ridge, and Liam, and Finn and just taking it all in – then Steffy realizes that she is addicted, just that moment of everything breaking down; her whole world was falling apart.  I think it was an important moment, but we were just really there for one another in that scene.

 

Scott Clifton, I just really want to say, throughout that week, had to play annoyingly holier-than-thou with you as Steffy.  People were annoyed with Liam.  He was the perfect annoyance to get her really pissed off!

JACQUELINE:  Yeah, I know!  It was actually funny at one point because so many fans were like, “Steffy was out of her mind!  She was clearly on drugs!”  I love the Steffy fans who were like, “Liam is so wrong!”  You could see how loyal the fans were.

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They were!  It was great, but Liam was super annoying. That being said; did you watch back last Friday’s episode where after Steffy runs out, the camera pans to Scott, and Liam breaks down and cries?  So good. 

JACQUELINE:  Yep, yep.  I know, it was so good, and that was him!  That’s what I find so beautiful is that when you are in that scene, you don’t know what the reactions are going to be, and I know that was so true and authentic of Scott.  It was a genuine emotion that came out of him. I hadn’t seen him break down in a long time, but it was so unexpected, but I was glad to see it, really glad.

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We haven’t seen Bill Spencer come to Steffy yet.  How does she feel about that?

JACQUELINE:  That’s a good question.  I don’t know how Steffy is going to feel about that.  I think, obviously before the addiction happened, she would blame him for hitting her on her motorcycle, but you never know, things could change coming up with Bill and Steffy.

Well, he will probably blame himself now for the addiction, I would think, because he hit her.

JACQUELINE:  I think so, too.  That’s one of the things he may be playing in those scenes.  So, we shall see.

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Talk to me about Thorsten Kaye in those scene with you as the dad, because in the episode we saw Tuesday, there was a powerful moment when he just sat beside Steffy, but not holding her at the very end.  I thought that was a very nice touch given also Covid-19 protocols.  At that point they weren’t dragging Steffy out into a rehab facility.  We just watched him sitting there quietly while Steffy had this reckoning to herself. 

JACQUELINE:  I really liked it.  I liked that we had a lot of those chill moments of taking each other in. Thorsten and I get along so well.  We’ve just always had a bond, and I love working with him because in rehearsal, we do something one way, and then, again, when you’re filming, it’s always so unexpected, you don’t know what he is going to throw at you, which makes you be even more present.  It’s a tough scene.  I was feeding off of him and vice versa, and I’m sure he was putting himself in that situation of God-forbid if his daughters were in this situation, and you know, I’m looking at him in that father-daughter moment and seeing him become emotional for his daughter.  It just kills you, it really does, but it was a heartbreaking moment, but I like how we ended the scene: with something as very simple as sitting beside each other.

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Your fans and the soap pundits are saying that obviously you have your Emmy reel for next year, it’s done.  It’s right there.  This may just make you a two-time Lead Actress Daytime Emmy winner.

JACQUELINE:  Aw, that’s so sweet.

It is great for you because you have an arc of a story there to tell, and we’ve talked about this before – an arc of a story for a submission in Emmy competition seems what many of the judges like to see and can understand because they watch the performer in scenes from the progression of a story.   

JACQUELINE:  Definitely, and it was nice to know that I was going to do this story and that we were going to tell this story, but once we came back months later, I didn’t know that we were still going to dive into opioid addiction with Steffy, because again, with our show, and with a lot of soaps, storylines change all of the time. I am very grateful for it.

 

So, what can we tease?  Will Steffy get Kelly back, or will she be estranged from her for a little bit?  What do you think?

JACQUELINE: I think that Steffy is a strong woman, and I think she will come back stronger than ever, and I think she will get her daughter.

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You should be very, very proud of this work, Jacqui!

JACQUELINE:  Thank you.  I am.  During the week, when we had all of the dialogue to do, and it’s a different world now when you’re taking care of a toddler, and then with the Covid-19 protocols, and then you get the story, (and again, so grateful for it), but it was so much dialogue, and going back and forth, and making sure you’re bringing it emotionally, and it was extremely challenging, to say the least,  But, I am really proud of myself that come that Friday I was like, “Oh, my God, we did it.  We did it!”

What have you thought of Jacqueline’s performances in the opioid addiction storyline? Were you glad to hear the show decided not to drag out the story due to the times we are all in? Do you feel this storyline was powerful and could help those in need of help? Share your thoughts on the interview with Jacqui and more via the comment section below.

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