Interviews
The Farah Fath, John-Paul Lavoisier & Austin Williams Interview – One Life to Live

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For those who have been tuning into One Life to Live in recent months, you have seen the carefully plotted, and true to life front-page news type storyline unravel before your eyes. The soap which has always been at the forefront of telling social issues of the day, during its 43 year history, took on a subject that has seen young high school and college students take their own lives, after being bullied endlessly by their peers, roommates, or class mates. Over the last several months, the rash of teen suicides via bullying in the United States has become staggering. But unfortunately this is nothing new, for teen suicides because of bullying have gone on for a very long time in our society, just perhaps, slightly more under the radar.
In January of this year, the powers-that-be in Llanview, executive producer, Frank Valentini and head writer, Ron Carlivati began to embark on telling the tale of teenager Shane Morasco being both bullied and cyber bullied. Later it would turn out that Jack Manning (son of Todd and Blair) is behind the horrific situations that Shane found himself in. Eventually, feeling all hope was lost and alone in the world, Shane decides he has nothing to live for and feels he needs to end his life. So he decides he is going to jump off his high school rooftop. Even though those scenes aired a month ago, the story is still playing out with all the ramifications and complexities of this delicate subject.
Three performers at OLTL were handed the ball to make this story come to life. And we have to say, all three have brought us all to tears, and made us take a look at what is going on in the world, not only with young children, but their parents, too. We can only be talking about Farah Fath (Gigi), John-Paul Lavoisier (Rex) and Austin Williams (Shane). OLTL has done an admirable and inspiring job taking a look at how bullying and attempted suicide affects not only the child, but the parents, and how do they deal with this most dangerous, unthinkable, and saddest of situations.
On-Air On-Soaps wanted to speak to all three key participants to discuss playing out the major rooftop scenes, the fallout, and how they have personally been affected, from being part of this very serious and important issue of the day. And now with One Life to Live’s unfortunate and ill-timed cancellation, the integrity and quality of work that this storyline continues to bring to the series again begs the question, “ABC, what were you thinking?” That being said, here is our very special conversation with Farah, JP and Austin!
MICHAEL:
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I want to begin by talking about the cancellation of One Life to Live that was handed down now three weeks ago by ABC. I know it is a sad loss, and that the cast was told before you went on a week hiatus. Now that everyone is back, and has had a little more time for the news to settle in, how are you doing with the news and what is the outlook of everyone over at One Life these days?
FARAH:
I think my grandfather puts it best when he says, “It is what it is.” That is the most comforting saying you can think of when something bad happens, or you have something you need to wrap your head around. It is out of our control. The fans can do as many campaigns as they want and write to the advertisers. But at the end of the day, we all just have to continue to try and put out the best episodes we can and stay focused on our current storylines. We still have a lot of show left to tape. So we are not trying to get depressed about it, as that is just going to be a waste of energy. We are trying to be upbeat and not miserable the last six months of work.
JOHN-PAUL:
Everyone at work knows that the dust has sort of settled. At least in the studio, it seems to be a lot happier and nicer… almost. There is a sense of peace now. For the past year, we have lived with all these rumors. Not a day went by in the daytime community where somebody wasn’t talking about somebody hearing something from somebody that the show was being canceled. So it was this funky energy ever since we moved into the new studio. Now that we have been given this seven months notice, it lets people sort of plan their life personally, professionally, and geographically. And there is sort of a sense of peace in that we know how we can move forward from this in our own ways. Obviously, people are not smiling or happy at all because the show has been canceled, just for their own ability to move forward.
FARAH:
Unfortunately for the viewers, they are not going to have that hour of the day to look forward to when they come home from work and watching their Llanview characters. But as far as the cast and crew go, everyone is starting to be positive. It is not a dreary place to be. We are making jokes and laughing, and still having a good time.
MICHAEL:
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One Life will have a very special place in your hearts, JP and Farah, because you met there. It will and has become very historical for you, in a way.
FARAH:
Llanview will always be a very special place to me and John-Paul.
JOHN-PAUL:
I just talked about this with Farah the other day. I am not a big Internet guy, but I hope there is a YouTube type platform when we are old so we can go there and watch the stuff we used to do and go, “That is how we met. Look at us meeting!”
FARAH:
It’s already weird to look back at 2007 and 2008 in clips, even now.
JOHN-PAUL:
Our first kiss was on TV…and now it’s on the Internet!
MICHAEL:
The performances in the bullying storyline have been tremendous from each of you involved. I dare say the best work you have done during your time on the series. When they told you that One Life to Live was going to embark on this very current hot topic storyline and that the three of you would be the characters used as the device to tell this story, what went through your minds?
AUSTIN:
I think I found out at casino night for ABC with Farah and JP! I saw Frank Valentini, our executive producer that night, and talked to him a little bit, and I am pretty sure that is when I found out. I was really excited and happy that I would get to be a part of such an amazing and powerful storyline.
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FARAH:
At first, I felt a little weary because it was a ripped from the headlines’ story. I felt it was little bit Law and Order! But with each passing script I got I would think, “This is working.” It had a nice built up and it wasn’t too sudden, and it also wasn’t dragged out too long. I think it climaxed at the right time. It has been fun as an actor, but a sad and scary place to dive into as far as playing it all out. I think the chemistry between myself, JP, and Austin is good. We have a nice connection going. Austin has grown as far as being a nice little actor. This has been a well-written storyline and something everyone can relate to, and that is what makes connecting to the characters right now a bit easier. I was bullied in school; John-Paul had some situations. Everyone has a little taste of that at some point in their lives. You hear the stories in the news and it makes you feel so sad for these kids that are tormented so badly that they think the only way out is suicide. I applaud the writers. I think it’s all been executed really well. In fact, the story has not concluded at all. It’s going to escalate even more come next month. So you have not seen the end of the bullying storyline!
MICHAEL:
Austin, did you have any trepidation playing a kid who is bullied, when you were still in high school yourself? Did it cause any problems for you?
AUSTIN:
It definitely mirrors real life, but my school is not tolerant of that type of thing at all. So, I didn’t see that much of it. But you definitely see it online – cyber bullying – is very prominent right now and very true to life. Then, I think everything the kids did to Shane is so true to real life, because kids will find anything and go after you about it. And it can be very random like that.
MICHAEL:
One of the things I recently shared about myself to the online readers of my website is that I was bullied terribly as child, and like Shane, I was an asthmatic. I too, wanted to end my life at one point as a kid. I shared that One Life to Live saved my life, since that is how I would escape the bullying and find a safe haven to take my mind off of it. So when I saw that Shane was going to be bullied and the way it went down, I can attest it is very true to life. Now, of course, when I was a child there were no computers so it was all emotional and physical abuse and not on the Internet. But the Internet adds a frightening complexity to all of this. But I have to say, that Shane immersing himself in comic books, etc as his world to escape into is dead-on. So Austin, I personally wanted to congratulate you for doing such an amazing job with the material.
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AUSTIN:
Thank you. I tried my hardest to make it as realistic as possible. I pretended that these things were happening to me, and that worked, while trying to make myself at the same time as sad as possible.
MICHAEL:
It also made great sense that the writers chose Shane, of all the kids on the canvas, to be picked on. He was ripe for it, if you think about it. He had gone through leukemia, had asthma and came from a blue-collar family. He was not the rich kid and in the “in crowd” like Jack Manning.
AUSTIN:
He is definitely weaker because of always being sick with asthma, and the one line that he said on the roof really rings true for him: “He does not always want to be that kid that is sick with cancer or asthma.”
MICHAEL:
John-Paul, the speech Rex gave in the hallway of Llanview high, after Shane’s suicide attempt, was so riveting and something that I know any kid who was bullied mercilessly by their fellow students would probably stand up and cheer! Rex screamed at the kids and the teachers! What did you personally think of that scene?
JOHN-PAUL:
It was such a real speech. It was a speech any parents would want to shout! Kids should not be allowed cell phones, and kids should not be allowed to do all this none school stuff when they are in school. When we all went to school from 8AM to 3AM, you were paying attention to the teacher. Then you get your time in the lunchroom and at recess to socialize and play with a stick and a swing set… not a computer, where you are typing in and watching videos and doing all this crazy stuff. It’s basically pointless! You have the rest of the day to do that, and you should not be allowed to do all that crap in school. So it was true and I felt it. There should be no social networking from 8-3. It is not going to help you get a job or go to college. I want to say to the kids, “Stop it!”
MICHAEL:
There is such poignancy watching the struggle of Rex and Gigi. Here are two very young parents that truly don’t know how to deal with this situation that was happening literally under their nose the whole time. Rex seems so lost at times.
JOHN-PAUL:
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He is lost! He does not know what to do. Rex is guessing his way along with Gigi on this, and they are trying to be a strong team for their son.
MICHAEL:
Austin, what was the hardest scene for you to tape in all of this?
AUSTIN:
I would say the roof scenes were the hardest. Now Shane is improving and therapy is helping, but every scene that you have to put yourself down like that is pretty hard to do.
MICHAEL:
JP, in the scene in the hospital where Rex breaks down in front of Bo, is one of the moments that will forever resonate with this story. Everyone loves to see the dynamics between you and Bob Woods (Bo). But since these were such high emotional stakes that we seldom get to see you do, was this more challenging for you to play?
JOHN-PAUL:
It wasn’t hard to do because of what I was talking about and the situation, and of course, it was not hard because I was working with Bob Woods (Bo). Now perhaps if it was an actor who I had never worked with before and was a stranger, I don’t think I could have done it as well. The hard part of it, other than I could not relate to it (because I don’t have a kid who tried to commit suicide, or anyone I know tried to commit suicide) was we taped out of order. We had not taped the pivotal roof top scenes yet. The hospital scenes we taped weeks before the roof top scenes, so I did not have the visual in my head.
FARAH:
I really wish we could have done the reverse order. The scenes where we come into the hospital and I am suppose to break down with the nurse, and John-Paul was suppose to break down with Bo, we had nothing to really go off of, and it was our first time taping anything in that storyline. I had no idea that being up on that roof, and seeing Austin Williams in that situation, was going to be as gut-wrenching as it was. I felt so desperate up there. All of us wish we had the opportunity to film those scenes first. It would have changed our choices in the scenes that followed.
MICHAEL:
…Which is amazing to think about because those moments came off so real to me, and were portrayed beautifully. It was just two parents… devastated, frightened, and helpless.
FARAH:
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Thankfully, it all came together OK, but imagine how much better it would have been.
MICHAEL:
Have you received or been aware of any reactions from family members, friends, or parents or kids, who have come forward that have lost a child via suicide to bullying, or a child who had been badly bullied?
AUSTIN:
My parents watched it, and they were like, “Oh, my God. I am so proud of you.” It was tough for them to watch, too. I know my grandpa would not watch some of the scenes. He was so hurt by them, since they were so sad.
FARAH:
For the first time in my entire daytime career, I have gotten compliments from people that I don’t know. I just made a facebook page and people are messaging me on there. I am hearing from women who have literally had children kill themselves. They tell me, “Gigi’s life was their living nightmare five or ten years ago.” I just could not believe it. They told me what a good job I was doing, and that just brought me to tears. For people who have actually experienced it to tell me that I am doing a good job for playing what they felt, that is the highest of compliments. Also my family– who are hard to get compliments out of, like my sister and my mom – they watch OLTL and I never hear anything from them. Well this time, I got phone calls and emails from my dad, my mom, my aunt, after the roof top scenes telling me it was the best work they had ever seen me do, and that hopefully, I will get pre-nominated next year for a Daytime Emmy, and those are my scenes. I have never gotten that kind of feedback from them. My sister particularly, is my harshest critic. She will point out my bad habits, and she tries to get me to do better all the time. She even said she was so proud of me. So between my family complimenting me and the messages and letters that I have gotten from mothers who have been in the same boat, it’s the biggest response I have ever had in the last 12 years, and it has been really fulfilling. I am glad in this last year of OLTL I have gotten to be part of this great story.
JOHN-PAUL:
My mother has been complimenting me a lot. She complimented the Bo scenes. She complimented Farah more. (Laughs) I did a personal appearance a few months ago at the beginning of the storyline where I was doing a Q&A from the stage, and one woman in particular commended the show in general for tackling this very current and relatable subject. And what was so startling was she lives in the town where they had recently had a teen suicide from Internet bullying. There have been three of four storylines of mine in the 9 years I have been on the show, and this is definitely in the top three in the biggest feedback. In the past, fans would say, “Oh, it’s really fun when you went to Texas,” or, “It’s really fun when you and Bo outed Daniel Coulson.” But when the show is over, this will be one of the top three which I saw was a hit with the audience the most. And, it’s a good storyline and it’s great to be part of it!
MICHAEL:
Austin, did any of your younger castmates, such as Eddie Alderson (Matthew) or Shenell Edmonds (Destiny) come up to you and give you kudos for the rooftop performance?
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AUSTIN:
Yeah, I was just on set the other day and I saw Shenell and she said, “Oh my God. You did such a good job!” I was so happy and laughing whenever I hear that, because it’s fun to hear! I remember Kassie DePaiva (Blair) said something, too. Everybody is very supportive at OLTL.
MICHAEL:
What did you think, JP and Farah, when in a major story point turned out to be Rex who hired thugs to beat up Jack Manning! People thought it was Clint for a bit!
JOHN-PAUL:
I was surprised, I was shocked, and I went, “I did do it? Well, OK.” But, I justify it with the fact of Rex still very much being a kid at heart. Look, if jail did not exist Rex would kill Jack, and beat the crap out him with his fists. This has made Rex in a slight way digress. Rex is having to fight inside himself actually becoming a 14-year-old boy walking on to the recess yard and beating up Jack and all of his friends, and not caring about the repercussions. He would strangle Jack to death! So the fact that he hired these people does not surprise me. It makes sense. I agree with it, and as an actor, I have justified it.
FARAH:
Listen, I do not know what it is like to be a parent, but as an older sister, I was in a situation one time where I went to the bathroom and was coming out of the bathroom – we were in a public place – and a woman started to beat up my 16-year-old sister. I had never been so enraged in my life! I can imagine if you are seeing your 16-year-old kid being beaten up! I don’t think you care who is beating up your child; you are going to jump on that person and defend your child. You don’t care how old that person is, as your emotions just overcome you. I asked John-Paul’s mother for a little bit of advice before the storyline got going. I said, “If you think back to when John-Paul was a freshmen in high school, and you found out that all these horrible things were happening to him and he was being picked on so badly that he wanted to kill himself, how would you feel? Would you be sad, or would you be so pissed off that you wanted to strangle someone?” And she said, “I would be so pissed off. I would go to their house and be banging on their door. I would scream at them and tell their mothers what was going on, and be madder than I have been in my life.” So, I thought, “OK, so there is my answer then.” As an adult, you don’t think about the consequences when you are seeing your precious child being abused. You can’t think rationally like, “This might put me in jail.” In fact, you probably don’t even care if you end up in jail, because you want to protect your baby.
MICHAEL:
Now that Rex has had Jack roughed up, is Shane fearful that Jack and his young goons will become more aggressive for Shane ratting them out to his parents?
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AUSTIN:
That was one of the main fears for Shane at the beginning. He was afraid to say anything to his parents, because he thought it would make things worse. But to me, it seems like Shane is starting to get his confidence back.
MICHAEL:
Will we see major confrontations between the families? Will we see the Mannings vs. the Balsoms clashing to protect and defend their children?
FARAH:
The Mannings and the Balsoms meet up in the hospital one day, and you will see the Mannings on one side and the Balsoms on the other side, and you kind of see the families go head-to-head for a minute.
MICHAEL:
How is Andrew Trischitta (Jack) to work with, Austin? What goes on behind-the-scenes between takes after he is being really mean to you when the cameras are rolling?
AUSTIN:
Andrew is so much different than his character in real life. He is so cool and so much fun to hang out with. It is weird when he goes from that to someone who does such bad things on the show. For the most part we talk to each other between takes. He does not stay in character and bully me when we are not taping! (Laughs)
MICHAEL:
What about scenes between Rex and Todd? Now those should be some complex exciting scenes to watch. Can you preview anything?
JOHN-PAUL:
I just worked with Trevor St. John (Todd) yesterday and this is actually going to air next month, and as far as I have been told, this is going to spark a lot of stuff between Todd and Rex. To my knowledge I am going to be having quite a few scenes with Trevor, which I have not had in awhile. So the answer is yes, we will be working together for the next few months.
MICHAEL:
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What did you think of Austin’s performance on the roof as Shane, when he delivered the sad and emotional speech?
JOHN-PAUL:
Yes, you mean “…having to make up friends and the comic books.” I know. We could have done the rooftop scenes in the studio, since as you have seen we do rooftops scenes in the studio all the time. But it helped, and it was really good that we were on the roof. (Even though, it was our ABC studio roof in the back lot.) It felt real. We are on a roof and it felt high above the ground, and the wind made it so you had to shout and be loud to communicate, and our hair was blowing, and it felt so real. I commended Austin afterwards. I said, “Really good job, good for you. You do snot really well. I cannot do snot.” (Laughs) Austin’s face just bleeds snot. He had boogies. (Laughs) I can’t do that. (Laughs)
FARAH:
His dialog was heartbreaking to the point where in the one scene where I had all of those lines, I got stuck. It was Gigi’s turn to so desperately spill her guts, and tell him how much she loves and needs him, “I need more minutes, baby…” etc. Now Austin was so good, and even though I had read his dialog before hand, hearing him say it and see his little face so crushed saying those lines, my jaw was on the ground. I thought, “Oh my God. This is so sad.” And then I went blank. I could not remember anything I was supposed to say, because I was so caught up in listening to him. I was at the point in Gigi’s speech where I discuss when I got pregnant at 17, and how that was not cool. Gigi goes on to tell him, “People laughed at me and pointed at me.” But, I just could not remember anything I was supposed to say. I was blank and I felt so bad, because Austin was doing so well. I felt like I screwed it up for everyone because I could not remember my lines. But thankfully, the stage manager fed me my line, so we just did a pick up right there where we left off and continued on. Bottom line: Austin was so good that he made me go blank! (Laugh)
MICHAEL:
Austin, the roof top scenes where Shane wanted to jump and end his life, and watching him so sad and breaking down in front of his mom and dad, gave all of us in the viewing audience a lump in our throats, and we grabbed the hankies. How did you prepare for the big episode to deliver this kind of a performance?
AUSTIN:
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I had known for a month that this was coming, while they figured out when they were going to shoot the remote scenes. I only found out we were going to be shooting on the roof of the studio a day before. The day of, I woke up, went over to the studio, had breakfast, and then did not talk to anybody. I tried to make myself as sad as possible and get really depressed, because that is how Shane felt. He was really sad and did not know what to do. Eventually, I saw the episode. I was in school when it aired, but I did watch it on SOAPnet later. I thought it was really good and JP and Farah did an amazing job, too. It was really weird seeing myself in that situation, though.
MICHAEL:
Speaking of how good JP and Farah were in those scenes, Austin, how has it been to play their on-screen kid all these years? Clearly, they are very impressed with your acting! It seems like all of you have a love and a mutual admiration society going on!
AUSTIN:
They are both so amazing and so nice. I have worked with them so much, and it is always fun to know that I have more scenes coming up with them. They are such amazing actors and they are awesome to hang out with, and they are like a second family to me.
MICHAEL:
You also got to work with Daytime Emmy winner, Kim Zimmer (Echo) as your grandma in some big scenes. How was that to work with her?
AUSTIN:
She is amazing, too! I am kind of sad I have not worked with her for a while. It’s been a few months now. I was hoping I would have more scenes with her, but soon maybe there will be more.
MICHAEL:
Have your classmates said anything, or seen you on OLTL in the bullying storyline?
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AUSTIN:
For the most part… no. One Life to Live is on while we are in school, but one person just posted on my facebook that they were out sick from school and turned on the TV and saw me! I pretty much keep my school life and work life separate. I am not going around going, “Watch me!” For the most part, I don’t acknowledge it, and just hang out with my classmates and be a normal kid. But then when it’s time to film, sometimes I have to leave school early and be like, “See ya everybody!” Then, I get to go off and become Shane.
MICHAEL:
Austin, many times kids who are bullied grow up to be bullies. Many times they don’t, and are extremely sympathetic to those who have gone through this. Where do you think Shane falls in all of this? How do you think he will be affected long term by the bullying?
AUSTIN:
I don’t think it will change who he is. I always think that Shane will be this really nice kid, but I think things will be different for him. However, I don’t believe it’s going to change his personality.
MICHAEL:
Now that all of you have experienced this bullying storyline and seen the feedback, and the importance of this issue, would you be open to speaking publicly for an organization that helps kids who have been bullied, or to a group of parents who have lost children via suicide this way? I know GLSEN is a wonderful organization that helps kids, and also I know One Life worked with STOMP Out Bullying, too.
AUSTIN:
That would be amazing, and that is what is so amazing about this storyline. That is, it can make a difference and can help people that are going through this, and hopefully stop people who are hurting other people and bullying them. Yes, that would be very exciting to speak and a great opportunity.
FARAH:
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I would love to. As I mentioned earlier and I don’t want to have a pity party for myself, but I was bullied very badly when I was in the eight grade. When I entered ninth grade, all I wanted to do is get out of school and go to L.A. and become an actress. It drove me to want to be an actress. I think acting was my escape, because I could forget about Farah’s torment, and try to be somebody else, and that has helped me get through. I would love to talk about my time as being the bullied kid, and share my experience of playing a mother to a bullied kid. I have now learned even more about the subject in the last few months of working at One Life to Live.
JOHN-PAUL:
They wanted me to speak at an event recently, and its not that I don’t want to speak, it’s just there is no way I could write the speech. I could easily do a Q&A talkback and would love to on this topic. But I will never steal Ron Carilivati’s (head writer, OLTL) job from him! (Laughs) I don’t know how to write anything. I just cannot step up to a podium and read something that I have written. I could not even write a toast for a best man’s speech.
MICHAEL:
Speaking of weddings, I loved the nice moment recently where Rex went down on his knees and asked Gigi to marry him, again. What did the two of you think about it?
FARAH:
I thought it was nice. Gigi thought it was odd timing, but Farah thought it was good timing. I think that Rex and Gigi should get married. They love each other, and they have a son, and they want to be a family forever.
JOHN-PAUL:
It’s a third time Rex has asked Gigi, so I did not really think anything was in Rex’s mind. It was not like, “Here we go again,” but in John-Paul’s mind it was. It was very serious and important for Rex, so I went with it and played it as such.
MICHAEL:
On tomorrow’s episode, there is a big group therapy session for the Morasco/Balsoms. What can we expect to see?
FARAH:
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Gigi confesses to stealing the tape and Rex confesses to the thugs. We just admit our faults and we make a bit of progress at being open and honest with each other.
JOHN-PAUL:
When Gigi and Rex go to see the doctor it’s interesting, because Rex and Gigi are two adults with a teenage child, yet they are sitting in front of this doctor going, “We don’t know what to do. Please help us help our son.” So it’s really about these two people who should know how to take care of themselves, but don’t quite know how.
FARAH:
The therapist, Dr. Buhari, starts to apologize to Rex and Gigi because Shane’s tape went missing. Gigi is feeling really guilty and she thinks that Dr. Buhari is on to her. She thinks Dr. Buhari is saying all these things in the session to get Gigi to confess, when in actuality, Dr. Buhari has no idea that Gigi took the tape! But Gigi fesses up and says she is sorry and was wrong. Rex hands the tape right to her. Dr. Buhari had asked Shane to step out of the room, because she did not want Shane to know his tape was missing. And then when Shane comes back into the room, that is when we confess our wrong-doings.
AUSTIN:
Shane and his parents want things to get better now, and they feel therapy is the best way for him to get past it and just move in. There are some scenes where it’s individual counseling, and some where we have therapy scenes together. But it’s very interesting what happens.
MICHAEL:
Austin, what would you say is the one key message you would like to say to kids going through this, now that you have depicted one on television?
AUSTIN:
Hurting yourself is not the answer. Please try to find ways to make yourself happy. Like, Shane’s thing is doing comics and that is what made him happy. No matter what it is: drawing, music, watching TV, anything that you can do to be happy and be yourself, and you will get past it. Having someone to help back you up is so helpful, like your parents, friends or anybody. They can help you get past it and be a healthy and happy kid. I would say to not shut down. You really do need to tell somebody. They really can help you.
MICHAEL:
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In closing, what you would say to the fans about the bullying storyline? Will it dovetail and continue into more story for all of you?
AUSTIN:
Now that his parents know, which is huge, it’s not only his secret anymore. Things look like they are getting better. We will see if Jack continues to bully him, or if he has learned anything from this, or if he finds away to continue bullying Shane.
FARAH:
It has had a climax, but the worst is yet to come…if you can imagine.
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‘The Bold and the Beautiful’s’ Heather Tom Talks Daytime Emmy-Nominated Scenes and What’s Behind Katie’s Deep-Seated Issues with Dylan (Exclusive)

The Bold and the Beautiful’s Heather Tom (Katie Logan) is heading into the 53rd annual Daytime Emmys next month with a chance to win not one, but two gold statuettes to add to her collection of six!
Heather is once again a nominee for the Outstanding Lead Actress in a Daytime Drama Series, and for the first time a nominee as part of B&B’s writing team in the Outstanding Writing for a Daytime Drama Series category.
Currently, Heather is tied with One Life to Live icon, Erika Slezak (Ex-Viki) as the actresses with the most wins in Daytime Emmy history. An acting victory by Tom would break the tie, although Slezak’s wins have all been for Lead Actress, while Tom literally grew up before our eyes over 35 years in daytime, and has won in all three actress categories: Younger, Supporting and Lead.

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Whether Tom wins the gold this year, next year is looking even like stronger lock with Heather delivering some of the best work of her career, over the last several months. Who can forget Katie’s showdown with her sister Brooke (Katherine Kelly Lang) over the creation of her own fashion house named Logan, that slap from Brooke, and eventually being disowned from the Logan family by Brooke and their sister, Donna (Jennifer Gareis).
This fall, Katie is in full momma bear-mode and being overprotective of her son Will Spencer’s (Crew Morrow) heart and pocketbook. In story, Katie has a massive distrust of Melissa Dylan, who has made her move on her son, while Will is still trying to deal with the break-up with the love of his life Electra Forrester.
During a live chat this week on the Michael Fairman Channel, Heather opened up on a myriad of subjects, including why Dylan gets under Katie’s skin in such a major way, and what scenes earned her a shot at Lead Actress gold at the October 30th Daytime Emmy ceremony.

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HEATHER TOM’S DAYTIME EMMY SUBMISSION
In daytime, Heather Tom does it all, she acts, directs and writes for The Bold and the Beautiful. When deciding what material to submit for Emmy competition with its eligibility rules of episodes from 2025, it relayed heavily on scenes with her longtime B&B scene partner, Don Diamont (Bill Spencer).
“I submitted material having to do with the Luna (Lisa Yamada) storyline and having to do with Katie and Bill. I love that Katie and Bill have been really trying to find their way back to each other for, honestly, five years. He’s been trying to woo her back. Katie’s been like, ‘No.’ However, they come together, especially over their son, Will (Crew Morrow) and they have a very real relationship-type of discussion. It wasn’t an argument. It was more about, ‘I know you. Don’t do this.’ That’s always kind of been Katie’s relationship with Bill. The scenes with Don Diamont were about Katie and Bill’s history, the pain, and the drama, and especially about their son, seemed very familiar to me.”
Heather added, “There’s also a couple scenes with Will and Luna, when Katie finds out that Luna is pregnant. Katie was like, ‘Nope! Our son is having a baby with somebody, and we’re going to figure this out. We’ve got means and the ability to do this. I don’t care if we have to take this baby away from Luna because she’s crazy, we’ll figure it out.’ They were some really good scenes that I felt very proud of. I thought to myself, “OK, this is Katie really taking a stand for her son, and having these conversations with Bill where I just felt they were real and honest.”
In conclusion to standing by her choices of scenes, Heather explained, “It was nice to see Bill and Katie operating as a parental unit and have her be like, “Yep, we’re not doing this. You know, you can’t force Luna to do anything, so let’s just figure out how we’re dealing with this.” Katie was kind of the adult in the room. Then, the scenes where Bill says to Katie, “You have to come back to me and I need you,” while Katie shed a few tears, she still didn’t take him back, not yet.”

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DYLAN BROKE THE ‘GIRLFRIEND CODE’
There are specific reasons why Katie has it out for Melissa Dylan. In fact, Dylan went so far as to get her mother Darcy Dylan to town to shut down Katie’s suspicions of her, but it still isn’t swaying Katie away from her stance on the matter. Heather revealed how she is playing the scenes.
“So, here’s the deal. It’s multifaceted,” began Tom. “This girl pushes Katie’s buttons. She reminds her of her sister, Brooke (Katherine Kelly Lang), and what Katie’s going through with her sister right now is very unpleasant. I think she looks at this girl and says, “This girl is going to crawl over anyone to get what she wants. And right now, she wants my son, and she’s willing to throw her best friend (Electra) under the bus.”
Heather also said, “Honestly, there’s something known as the ‘girlfriend code.’ Would you like to know what the girlfriend code is? ‘The girlfriend code’ is if your girlfriend, who is also your best friend, dates a guy and is especially in love with him, it doesn’t matter if you break up, that guy is off limits. You need to find yourself another guy.”
KATIE’S TROUBLES WITH BROOKE AND DYLAN MAKE HER TAKE A STAND
Katie clearly draws a similarity to her sister Brooke and Melissa Dylan which is also driving her attitude, which Heather confirmed. “So to Katie, it’s like Dylan broke that code. She is someone who follows her heart just like Brooke and leaves carnage in her wake,” said Tom.
She continued, “I think Katie looks at her and goes ‘Okay, one, you were living in your car. You didn’t call your mother who clearly loves you and ask her for help, but you were more than willing to take help from this, lovely rich guy.’ I think Katie feels like the fact that Dylan has been so expressive of how in love she is with Will, I think she finds that a little weird. She’s telling him that she’s e in love with him, and he doesn’t say it back to you. So, clearly he’s in not in love with you.”
In story, Katie can’t trust a young woman, who knows her son doesn’t feel the same way about her and yet is still hanging around. Heather shared Katie’s viewpoint to Dylan: “He’s clearly in love with your best friend. So, isn’t it a little unsettling that she kind of keeps saying she’s in love with him? So that’s my multifaceted reason why Katie doesn’t like her. It really has nothing to do with the fact that she came from humble beginnings because Katie did too. That being said, the Spencers are billionaires, so she would have to also look out for that. However, I don’t think that’s the main reason why she doesn’t like this girl or doesn’t trust her. I really don’t.”
You can check out the full conversation from our livestream conversation on the Michael Fairman Channel below.
Now let us know, are you rooting for Heather Tom to win the Lead Actress Daytime Emmy? What did you think of the scenes she submitted? Will Katie be proven right about Melissa Dylan, or will her distrust blow up in her face and she will wind up respecting Dylan when all is said and done? Weigh-in via the comment section.
Interviews
‘The Bold and the Beautiful’s’ Kelly Sullivan Talks Becoming Darcy Dylan, Who’s Melissa’s Dad, and Future Love Interest (Exclusive)

Kelly Sullivan made her triumphant return to daytime on recent episodes of The Bold and the Beautiful in her new role as Darcy Dylan, the mother of Melissa Dylan (Sydney Bullock).
In story, Melissa, better known as just “Dylan,” phoned home to her mother to come to Los Angeles, in an effort to calm the waters with Will Spencer’s (Crew Morrow) nosy mother, Katie Logan (Heather Tom), who doesn’t trust Dylan one iota.
Soap fans remember Sullivan from her previous Daytime Emmy-nominated role sas Kate Howard/Connie Falconeri on General Hospital and as Sage Warner on The Young and the Restless. During a livestream conversation exclusively on the Michael Fairman Channel, Kelly spoke about her time on GH and Y&R, and the wonderful co-stars she shared the screen with, and her excitement on her brand new role on B&B.

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As to her thoughts on if Darcy will ultimately prove to be a gold-digger, opportunist, but still has a heart of gold (as we saw in recent scenes with her daughter, seemingly), Sullivan explained, “Characters like Darcy can be dangerous. I think Darcy is a survivor and she can charm. She’s a flirt. She knows what she wants. Darcy is self-made, according to her, and she made it.”
THE DYNAMIC BETWEEN DARCY AND HER DAUGHTER, MELISSA DYLAN
However, Melissa plays a big role in what’s next for Darcy! Kelly explained, “She’s got this beautiful daughter and that was her entire life who is now making her way. Let me tell you, I don’t know what Darcy’s retirement plan is, but one would assume she doesn’t have much savings. This is a great opportunity for her to connect with her daughter and get the lay of the land.”
Finding out that Melissa has been dating Will Spencer from the rich and powerful Spencer family in Los Angeles, while initially a shock, could prove interesting if the mother/daughter were to work together for a common cause, their survival.
Sullivan explained, “Darcy’s all about the tabloids and all about this life of illusion and the haves and have-nots, essentially. She would never shy away from an opportunity to see what’s around the corner. I think the interesting thing for me, that I’m excited about is to explore the dynamic between Darcy and Melissa and what is that going to become?”
From all accounts, Darcy is here to stay in Los Angeles, and fans will see much more of Sullivan on their-screens. “Darcy’s not going anywhere”, confirmed Kelly. “I always said to Sydney Bullock, Darcy didn’t buy a round trip ticket. If you think about it, Melissa could be her ticket. She might be Darcy’s only hope. There are serious stakes here if Darcy has been waiting for this moment.”

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SHARING SCENES WITH HEATHER TOM
Last week, Sullivan had her first on-screen confrontation with Heather Tom. In the scenes, Katie was disapproving of Dylan and let Darcy know it. Eventually, Darcy takes Dylan with her to leave Will’s beach house apartment, but Will stops Dylan.
Recalling the taping of the scenes, Kelly said, “Heather Tom is a real special artist. In the story between Katie and Darcy, you’ve got momma bear and you’ve got momma bear. You can’t fault either of these women for how they feel, and how protective they are of their children.”
There are many things viewers and perhaps the writers have not totally fleshed out about the Dylans. Are their Dylan sisters coming, or to be revealed to rival the Logan sisters? Who is Melissa’s biological father? Plus, some more nuggets as Kelly revealed.
“I think there is a juicy, juicy story there of the Dylans,” previewed Sullivan. “It would also be interesting if they decide who Melissa’s dad is. Who is that? I mean, that’s interesting. You know, when I auditioned for this role, it said on the page that the character was charming, from the Midwest, and dance skills a plus. and I was a Broadway dancer. So, I hope this means there might be an opportunity to dance on the show at some point.”

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DARCY DYLAN AND WYATT SPENCER PAIRING?
As for the men on the canvas, Kelly was asked what she thought of a potential Darcy and Wyatt Spencer (Darin Brooks) pairing? To which she responded, “That would be so much fun. I’m such a fan of Darin’s work. Oh, I would have a ball working with him. One of the things that really excited me about Darcy when I was coming into audition for her was that they said that they wanted her to have a comedic sensibility, comedic chops as they said it.”
Sullivan concluded, “To work with Darin, I would be so lucky. He’s such a great actor and he’s got great comedic timing and he’s just really present and phenomenally talented. He’s a great actor, so I would love that. I mean, anyone on the show would be really fun. You throw it at the wall (in daytime) and say, ‘Is there a thing? Is there something here?’ Chemistry is chemistry.”
Now below, and in case you missed it, you can check out our full video livestream chat with Kelly Sullivan below.
So, what have you thought of Kelly’s performances thus far as Darcy? Do you think Darcy will turn out to be an opportunistic woman, but who deeply cares and loves her daughter, or will it turn out to be a ruse? Would you like to see Kelly paired with Darin Brooks on-screen as a love interest, and who do you think truly is Melissa Dylan’s biological father? Weigh-in via the comment section.
General Hospital
GH and OLTL Alum Patrick J. Gibbons Reveals the Story Behind Writing Trina’s Song on ‘General Hospital’ (Exclusive)

At the conclusion of today’s August 21 episode of General Hospital, Trina Robinson (Tabyana Ali) sings a lullaby to baby Dez, that went into a montage to close out the episode as her father Curtis Ashford (Donnell Turner) reports to Pentonville and winds up in his jail cell.
However, in a fun fact, the song entitled, “A Lonely Heart To Give” was actually written by none other than former One Life to Live and General Hospital actor, Patrick J. Gibbons.
Daytime fans first met Gibbons as Sam Manning on One Life to Live. At the time, when he started on the soap, he was just 5-years-old. Gibbons played the part from 2010-2013 on ABC and Prospect Park’s editions of the show. Fast-forward to 2018, Gibbons shows up on General Hospital as Wyatt Hoover, the scout who seemed always be injured, but in the thick of the drama. Patrick had appeared on GH multiple times as Wyatt including: 2018, 2019, 2021, 2022, 2023.

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FROM HIS GRANDMOTHER’S DEATH CAME THE INSPIRATION FOR HIS SONG
Now in 2026, General Hospital fans are getting to learn about another side of Gibbons’ talent as a songwriter and guitar player after “A Lonely Heart to Give” debuted today! Michael Fairman TV caught up with Patrick, who is now a senior at Penn State entering his final year as a finance major, to get the back-story of how his song wound up on GH!
Gibbons explained he wrote the song in honor of his grandmother who passed away a few years ago with whom he was, very, very close with. “Randomly, my grandmother had a downfall and passed away during the second semester of my sophomore year. I was in my dorm a lot and I was just playing with my guitar. And at the time, I was really into finger-style playing. I wrote the lyric and music to it (with a little help from my guitar teacher Lou), and my mom showed the rough demo to Frank Valentini (EP, General Hospital). He’s like an uncle to me. Frank loved it so much he said, “Finish that up. I want to hear the whole thing, and I want it on the show.”
MAKING MUSIC FOR GENERAL HOSPITAL
Gibbons and his parents took the next steps! “So now, all we needed was a female voice, because I thought that would fit the song well,” Patrick shared. “At the golf club we go to my parents were at a dinner. They liked the singer that was performing and spoke to her about the song, and she says she would like to bring it to her ‘boss’ who ended up being Eric Bazilian of the Hooters fame!” (Bazilian also wrote the smash hit song “One of Us” for Joan Osborne).
Next, “We went in the studio and recorded it and the song came together and it was beautiful. We loved it. They loved it at General Hospital and now they’re putting it the show and they are coming in with a piano, instead of a guitar. Paul Glass, the GH musical director, has been keeping us updated over the last six months of how it was coming along, and when it would air, and how GH put their own arrangement to it. I can’t wait to see and hear what they did with it.”

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PATRICK’S ONE LIFE TO LIVE FAMILY
Everyone knows that the One Life to Live extended family share a very tight bond, and Patrick said he does stay in touch with a few of his former One Life to Live co-stars, especially those from the Manning family! “I stayed in touch with Kassie DePaiva (ex-Blair) and sent her little videos here and there. She was like my second mom for five years. We keep in contact with Kristen Alderson (ex-Starr) over X the most, and she can’t believe how big I’ve gotten. Like, none of them can! (laughs). I also loved working with Roger Howarth (ex-Todd) and Trevor St. John (ex-Todd and Victor Jr.), and to me since I was so young, they were just my friends, ‘Roger and Trevor,’ not Todd Manning or Victor Jr.”
It was a trip to California and a visit to Port Charles that ultimately led to Gibbons second soap role of Wyatt Hoover. Patrick explains, “In 2016, Frank Valentini invited us out to Los Angeles to visit the set of General Hospital. I think he heard me say, ‘This is so much fun. I miss being on the set.’ He goes, ‘You should come out. I’ll bring you on the show. We can make you a character.'”
A few years later, Patrick’s dream became a reality! “Then, by the summer of 2018, I was playing Wyatt, the scout, and shared scenes with Wes Ramsey (Peter August), and the best was when I shared a scene with Roger Howarth and Michael Easton (ex-John, OLTL and ex-Silas, Finn et al, GH), it was like chemistry from the old days.”

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IT’S ALL IN THE NUMBERS
As to his future aspirations, it’s a career in the finance game that has piqued Gibbons’ real-life interest. But never say never to a return to acting. Patrick explained, “I’ve always enjoyed numbers. And on top of that, one of the biggest parts of finance is being personable and outgoing.”
He continued, “That’s one of the greatest skills I developed growing up. I really love the markets. I’m super interested. I’m never going to close the door to acting. I’m always open to that because I just love it so much. It’s such a great art.”
Take note! If there are any investment bankers or private equity folks among the GH faithful looking for a young analyst next year, Patrick’s DMs are open. You can find him on X at @PatrickJGibbons.”
So, what did you think of the song sung by Trina on today’s GH that was written by Patrick J. Gibbons? Did you enjoy Patrick’s performances as One Life’s Sam and GH’s Wyatt? Would you like to see him back on GH at some point? Let us know via the comment section.
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I think this will be one of the most important storylines in daytime this year. It is such an important story to tell, and I hope it helps many people. The acting from John-Paul, Farah, and Austin has been amazing. Their performances have been real and raw. This storyline and the acting involved is one of the reasons One Life To Live continues to shine as the best show in daytime right now. I am so saddened that it has been canceled, but I know the cast will continue to put their best efforts into this show and enhance the legacy it will leave.
I was bullied throughout junior and high school. The roof scenes really made me break down. Amazing work by Faras, JPL, and especially Austin. They have their reels for next years Emmys…..if they have the awards next year.
What a fabulous interview from three very talented actors…..my hat is off to all for such stellar performances on such a timely and important issue as bullying.
Great stuff !!
The storyline hits home, but I was in high school over twenty years ago, and school bullying was not near as bad then as it is now. I was bullied in high school, and I know how Shane feels, but not near as bad. I felt lonely and depressed a lot, and there were times I felt like killing myself, but then I thought of my parents, and I knew that they would be devastated if I did commit suicide. That is the only reason I did not do it. I was not bullied near as bad as Shane, and if I was I would of probaly killed myself without any hesitation. I’m just glad that Shane did not kill himself, and Jack Manning gets put into his place. I loved the interview between John Paul, Farah and Austin, and it should be interesting to see where this storyline goes.
at least u could had a good going off the air fornally this messed up
OMG! Big Props Must Go To Michael For Conducting An Informative & A Most Meaningful Interview With John-Paul, Farah, & Austin! Bless You All!
why didn’t u just let gigi and rex get married,give shane a family he deserve that.why did christen make that dum move, it shouldn’t end this way.
the roof top scene made cry I was alone watching watching it. I want the 2 main bullies Brad and Jack to be expelled and they should be,
My name is Lindley Pablo. When I saw the bullying story on OLTL, I really related to Shane.I was bullied from the time I was in 8th grade to the end of my 12th grade year in high school. Even a few of my teachers talked bad about me behind my back. I did not tell my parents. However they did figure out what was going on thanks to one of my best friends. I just want to say that Austin deserves an award for his acting. He had me in tears. When I heard Shane say “I don’t always want to be the sick kid,” that really choked me up. I remember telling my mom and dad that I wanted to be normal and liked by people. Basically the only friends I had were my band friends and my church friends. I also think Farah and John-Paul deserve awards. They reminded me so much of my parents. Rex reminded me of my dad and Gigi reminded my of my mom. My dad wanted all of the people that hurt me to pay for what they did and my mom was supportive of me. My dad was also supportive. If it hadn’t been for my mom and dad and my best friend Jordan, I probably would have committed suicide. I would have slit my wrists in the bathroom at school just like I was trying to and I would have bled to death. I just thank God every day that I am now out of high school. But some days I wish i could go back and get revenge on all of the people who hurt me. Thank you OLTL for showing this storyline. Bullying is real and it can happen to anyone. Thank you Austin, JP, and Farah! The three of you are such talented actors!
That second picture down is a picture I took New Year’s Eve 2009. So how could it be a JPI Studio picture? I don’t care if you used it though, just wanted to let you know.