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The Hollywood Reporter Puts Out Report On The Ratings State Of Y&R!
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In a special report, that was in the online edition of The Hollywood Reporter late last week, and is currently in the print edition for October 31st, the Tinseltown mainstay attempts to analyze the ratings performance of The Young and the Restless over the last several years, despite the fact that the number one soap opera has had spurts of growth in Total Viewers, and key demos: Women 18-49, and Women 25-54, recently.
THR cites, “Y&R has been declining lately, falling to a 1.4 rating among the key demo of women 25-to-54 this season, compared to a 1.9 in 2009-10. And the slide has coincided with increases for CBS’ The Bold and the Beautiful and ABC’s General Hospital.”
The report also interviewed CBS Daytime Chief Angelica McDaniel who stated: “The show historically was struggling and was going down but we were able to plateau that.” Angelica also told THR that Y&R viewing on the web on the CBS.com web platform is up 60% this year, and that the show has done very well for itself with its same day repeat broadcasts on TVGN (now rebranded as POP)
THR comes back to say that “rumors persist that CBS wants its soaps to fade so they can be replaced with lower-cost talk shows.” McDaniel responded: “That’s hilarious, and anyone who says that is greatly misinformed. While some say the numbers are softening, we feel the numbers are very strong. They’re up about 5 percent from where we were last year.”
Analyst Brad Adgate, Senior vp research for Horizon Media also interviewed for the piece noted as far as Y&R’s fate, Nothing last forever,”but as long as they are in first place, they’re OK.”
So, is THR misinformed here? Does it seem to you that CBS wants the soaps to fade away with lower-cost talk shows, when their entire line-up has found great ratings success throughout 2014? Share your thoughts on the statements contained in the article below!
the stories need to get so much better and too many darn new ppl which is irritating and recasting.
The past 6 weeks have moved painfully slow…. Then we will get some action with Sweeps….
Yes thank goodness November is sweeps month. We need some story lines sewed up!
Th reporter is Tommy Garrett and he is a strong supporter of the Bells. That being said if MAB had paid attention to her father-laws legacy by bringing back Kay Alden and others who had worked for BB maybe she would still be there but as the late Jeanne Cooper even said she was too busy with her art shows etc to pay attention to this show. She let the fox get into the hen house !
Highlight Hollywood is Tommy Garrett’s publication. The Hollywood Reporter is an industry bible along with Variety. It is well respected in Hollywood.
Paula I agree I am just simply saying MAB has to take some blame for the Bells losing any control over their show. She got her foot back in the door and she blew it now good luck with a Bell ever getting control back. It was not a slam to Tommy Garrett simply an observation that Maria has to take some blame and she does not.
I’m with you, K/Kay – Maria Arena Bell was at the helm of the ship when it was steering towards the iceberg! She told lousy stories (especially her lame-ass WHODUNNIT murder mysteries), SORAS’ed way too many of the younger characters and introduced characters nobody liked or cared about in the least. The worst S/Lsunder MAB was the horrid “Who Killed Diane Jenkins?” tale and of course, the debacle that was the “Susan Smythe/Sheila Carter” mess that brought the worst character in the history of “Y & R” – DAISY!!!
Oh let’s not forget the worst Shictor/ Sharon & Victor ruining a father/daughter type relationship. The character of Sharon is still trying to recover from that. She is also responsible for us losing Brad & Colleen Carlton and who can forget Phyllis & Sharon in the field with the crop duster! As time goes by we forget just how bad it was. Yes with JFP we have lost three good actors but they might have left even if she wasn’t there and remember we gained Steve Burton, Steve Burton and did I say Steve Burton. Lol
Y&R is generally good right now but it could be better.
Agreed, Mark – I’ve been watching Y & R for over 32 years and there is much room for improvement. It’s watchable, but lacking involvement. While Bill Bell was known for long, drawn-out stories, at least they were involving, character-driven and there was a payoff in the denouement.
It’s still the only soap I watch, and I hope new co-EP/Head Writer Chuck Pratt doesn’t do a lot of damage.
I find Nikki to be almost un watchable lately–and yet she is in front burner stories consistently. Her breathy manner of speaking, her redundant issues….it all has rather a somnolent effect on me.
I also find her daughter Victoria to be dull as dishwater–add to that list: Lily, Abby, Summer and her husband.
I truly believe that if the characters are fleshed out in a good and compelling way that the stories will follow.
Wish them luck if they even try to go the way of ABC. I barely watch CBS now. No one wants more talk shows they all fail.
In fact from the same above article it revealed after a ratings glitch was resolved General Hospital ‘s audience dropped about 8 percent overall and about 14 percent in the key demo of women 25-to-54.
Sadly it looks like this is exactly what CBS wants by having the team of Jill Farren Phelps and Charles Pratt who have cancelled every show they have been a part of
. I cant understand why . Isnt the point of being a network to want people to tune into your network ? Doesnt look like too long until I will be boycotting all 3 networks 🙁
JFP has never been the EP of a show when it was cancelled. She was gone from GL for 15 years before it was cancelled…..OLTL 9 years….and AW and Santa Barbara at least 2 years each. She can hardly be blamed ,,,,esp. for GL and OLTL.
Thank you. I hate the fact that she has that rep when the shows had multiple chances to recover after her tenure. Especially GL.
Sorry–I’m going to disagree with you in the case of GL. Despite the fact that the cancellation came many years after she left, she was responsible for the death of Maureen Bauer, and the show never really recovered from that. The structural damage from that one decision had ramifications all the way through the next decade and a half, until P&G finally pulled the plug. The show never recovered from it.
On OLTL, I agree with you; she left it in good shape (ratings-wise), and I can’t think of any damage she did that was long lasting; in fact, it was still in pretty good shape when it was cancelled, and the real blame for that would have to be ABC’s stupidity. I think it’s less clear cut in the case of AW–she was responsible for some incredibly damaging choices there too–but AW’s death was more like a bunch of slow cuts bleeding it to death; it’s hard to say she did more damage than other people did. She didn’t help, that’s for sure, but trying to pin the cancellation on her is a pretty tall order. In the case of SB, I think she did damage it, but she wasn’t the main damage–that was NBC taking control away from the Dobsons and locking them out–and I think it’s unsupportable to blame her for the cancellation.
I do think her reputation as a soap killer is justified. OLTL is the only show she left in better shape than, or at least as good shape as, it was in when she inherited it. The degrees of damage she’s done elsewhere have been varied, but even where she hasn’t been directly responsible, she’s been a contributor to the deaths of several shows. Should GH be cancelled anytime in the next 5 years or so, she’d have to be counted as a strong contributor to its death as well. The verdict is out on her contribution to Y&R. That’s not exactly a record to be proud of.
@Michael (not Fairman) while the death of Maureen Bauer hurt. The show had ample time to rightc itself. No one character can make or break a show. Sorry it always comesdown to wwriting and tone and I remember the surreal Paul Rauch year that hurt the show as well.
If GH is cancelled that is soley on FV. You can’t say that he saved GH an brought up ratings and then let him skate and blame the previous regime if it gets canceled especially if the ratings fall again. That is all on him.
To do that is just piling on JFP.
Nicole: Unfortunately, in the case of GL and Maureen Bauer, there was no way to right it. You can’t just pluck a character that fills the place she filled out of nowhere. GL was lucky in the first place that when Charita Bauer (Bert) passed away, Maureen was well positioned to be that warm, central, moral force that every show needs. When JFP decided she was expendable, there was absolutely nobody to fill that crucial place–and people warned her about it, and she still went on and did it. The show tried later, I think, with Mary Stuart (Meta) and came closer than anybody had a right to expect, but that was derailed when the actress died. I certainly remember, like you, some terrible periods afterward–and not just from Paul Rauch; I thought the John Conboy period was even worse–but those were like bad decorations on a Christmas tree that was already dead. I suppose you could argue that P&G just didn’t pick the right people to fix what JFP did, but even if that were something you could “prove,” it would be like saying they didn’t find the right doctors to pull out the bullet JFP put in the show’s head. It doesn’t change the fact that she’s the one that put the bullet there.
Regarding GH, I actually don’t think I’ve ever said FV saved GH, though I do think he had some success in the first year or so in repairing some of the damage. (Less so since then.) If GH is cancelled, he’ll have to take his share of the blame, but that won’t change the damage JFP and Guza did (with the help of Brian Frons), and they bear some of the blame as well.
I don’t pile on JFP. I recognize when she’s wrongly blamed (e.g., OLTL), and I also recognize she does some things right (for example, she’s been more of an advocate for multigenerational storytelling, and stories for older characters, than most people give her credit for). But she’s also got serious problems in the way she manages shows and people, and she makes the same mistakes over and over and doesn’t learn from them. She’s certainly not responsible for all of Y&R’s current problems, given the mess that she inherited, but I don’t see that she’s done much to fix it yet, either, in two years she’s been there. (Although if you’re going to say that FV is solely responsible for the current state of GH, then I’d have to argue that JFP is solely responsible for the current state of Y&R; the two situations are actually pretty comparable.)
Networks probably want lower cost crappy talk shows but i say if the remaining four get cancelled im totally done with daytime…i believe they will last but not past 2020…the networks will fade too…too much of the same stuff…no variety any more is what hurts…remember network movies of the week, variety-music shows, westerns and family drama…just 3 networks that once gave you a wide choice to choose from but not anymore…tv is crude and rude and not as creative as it once was…i find very little that entertains me…cable is terrible…too many reality series…im cutting the cable cord by the end of the year and internet shortly afterward…cost is too high anyway and i get so little in return…i may be in a minority here but thats fine…jmho!!!
Bottom line, THR is right. Y&R’s core audience is made up of the elderly. As they pass, there is no audience to replace them. They aren’t building an audience of younger female viewers because the show is boring and dull. All soaps suffer from the same situation and eventual fate. Angelica McDaniel is using CBS Daytime as a stepping stone in her career. She’s a TV executive and they will say anything that will make themselves look good. Daytime soaps are a dying genre. Only four of them are left. That says it all.
I don’t believe a word that comes out of Angelica McDaniel’s mouth. CBS & Sony have turned Y&R into a shell of itself. Anyone who has watched it over the years can see just how bad it has become. Phelps accelerated the show’s decline and Chuckie Pratt will finish the job. Y&R’s days are certainly numbered.
Excuse me, talk shows haven’t been very successful either : Katie Couric Show, Bethenny Frankel and the dreaded show with Kris Kardashian – Jenner . Yes, Y&R could be better, but we should not start the cancellation craziness again. Have we not learned anything from AMC & OLTL? If we aren’t happy with the direction of a shorw, be vocal and let your opinions be heard. Not the time to abandon the remaining soaps. We need to show the networks that we do care, love and support our shows.
“… we should not start the cancellation craziness again ”
I know, right
here, here
it’s anxious enough to keep 4 afloat
leave well enough alone…. these Serials are a constant…. a staple…. a belong
these 4 serials should be heralded and given all opportunity to thrive… regardless of budget constraints…. LOL tall order
it’s just that soap opera has been at the top and pinnacle of all of daytime
it would never be the same without
have to agree with JimH… I too would have to move on without daytime when the crash hits
Amen to you Lew, We need to support the remaining 4 soaps. We dont need anymore talk shows. Last year The young and The restless got renewed for 3 more years, until 2017. But I am enjoying watching Y&R again, Gina Tagnoni is kicking ass as the new Phyllis. Gina is a wonderful actress, I love watching her and I cannot wait until November 5, Justin Hartley first air date as the new Adam Newman. We need to watch and enjoy our soaps. If we dont watch at all, the soaps will be dead.
I couldnt agree more!
CBS wants Y&R to fail, there is no doubt in my mind. JFP is known throughout the industry as “The Soap Killer”. How this woman still has a job is beyond me.
Agree. Phelps was hired purposely by Steve Kent of Sony (he and Phelps go back 30 years). Sony is bleeding badly…huge losses…they have to get out of soaps. CBS holds only a minority interest so Sony calls the shots. The future of Y&R is bleak. And most assuredly by hiring Chuck Pratt it will be sooner than later.
If CBS were serious about keeping Y&R viable they would’ve hired Kay Alden as head writer instead of Charles Pratt.
NO MORE TALK SHOWS – they are boring and PLEASE keep Y&R life would’n’t be the same at 12;30 without Y&R coming on, just tune it up once and awhile.
Aware of Y&R and peek at it occasionally, but this article could be true of each of the four remaining soaps. The bottom line is that each show needs to continually dig deep to be the best they can be. AND the networks would be fools to cancel any more soaps. Soap fans are VERY loyal and they will not transfer from their soaps to a talk OR game show. The networks would only be wise to support the remaining four soaps and help grow them. To me, that’s their only win-win.
Id rather watch reruns than watch a talk show
Me, too.
No more talk shows!
No more reality shows!
There are already too many, UGH!
The four remaining soaps are on borrowed time, a few more years? They are not moneymakers anymore and scripted drama is expensive to produce.
The current regime seems to have forgotten that Nicki has M.S. Instead, they’ve given her back her alcoholism. Anyone familiar with M.S. know that M.S. and alcohol do not mix well, but Nicki must be Wonder Woman because alcohol seems to have no effects on her M.S. Amazing. JFP is bad, adding Chuck Pratt to the mix, devestating.
When you gut the show, the show goes into the gutter! Women demos are very important. Women LOVED Billy Miller and Michael Muhney. They are off the show. Enough said!
ABC has named their ‘Bachelor’ for the upcoming 30th season of the reality series. Sam Hartman, a 27-year-old NFL quarterback who plays playing for the Washington Commanders, will be handing out the roses as he searches for love.
The upcoming season of The Bachelor will premiere in 2027 on Sunday, March 21 at 8 p.m ET. on ABC and streaming the next day on Hulu and Hulu on Disney+ for bundle subscribers in the U.S.
The announcement was made, and Hartman’s first interview was on the Friday, November 13 edition of Good Morning America, where he shared with cohosts Sam Champion and Rebecca Jarvis: “I’m excited but also very nervous, I have a tough time holding conversation with one girl. 30 is going to be pretty tough.”
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WASHINGTON COMMANDERS QB WRESTLED WITH THE NOTION OF BECOMING THE BACHELOR
Hartman also revealed his initial thoughts on appearing on The Bachelor: “Honestly, at first, I was like ‘no way. The connotation of it − I don’t know.” Ultimately the QB was swayed to take on the reality franchise lead for its upcoming season.
A Charlotte, North Carolina, native, Hartman played for Wake Forest and Notre Dame in the college ranks. It was there he set ACC records, including most career touchdown passes and 300-yard passing games. Sam was also featured in the documentary series QB1: Beyond the Lights. Currently, on the NFL’s Washington Commanders, he serves as a quarterback on their practice squad.
FORMER ATHLETES THAT ALSO GAVE OUT THE FINAL ROSE
The pick of Sam Hartman aligns with pro athletes who have appeared on the show in the past including: now ‘Bachelor’ host, NFL quarterback Jesse Palmer, former soccer player Juan Pablo Galavi, ace car driver Arie Luyendyk Jr. and former NFL practice squad player Colton Underwood.
The Bachelor is executive produced by Scott Teti, Jason Ehrlich and Andy Frank serve as executive producers.
You can check out Sam Hartman talking about being cast as the series lead for the upcoming season 30 of The Bachelor with GMA below.
Now let us know, will you be checking out the 2027 season of The Bachelor featuring Sam looking for love? Let us know your thoughts via the comment section.
General Hospital
‘General Hospital’s’ Cynthia Watros Honors Former ‘Titus’ Co-Star Stacy Keach Following His Passing
General Hospital star Cynthia Watros, who can currently be seen in on the ABC soap opera in the role of Nina Reeves, has had a enduring career in television. That included her time on the 2000-2002 Fox sitcom, Titus.
In Titus, Watros starred along with Stacy Keach as Erin Fitzpatrick and Ken Titus, respectively. After the November 10th news that Keach had passed away at 85 while living in Poland, Cynthia took to her Instagram on Thursday, November 12 to pay tribute to the great actor.
Watros expressed, “My first prime time show was along side Stacy. I loved him instantly. What an amazing talent and man.❤️”
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In Titus, Stacy played stand up comedian Christopher Titus’ heavy-drinking, chain-smoking, five-times-divorced father who frequently pulled cruel pranks and tried to toughen his kids up. Cynthia played by Christopher’s level-headed, big-hearted girlfriend trying to build a normal life with him. In fact, Cynthia’s role on the sitcom was first series regular role after her Daytime Emmy run of Annie Dutton on Guiding Light which ran from 1994-1998.
STACY KEACH’S WIFE ON HIS PASSING
Keach’s wife, Malgosia shared the news of the actor’s death publicly in a statement with PEOPLE. Malgosia expressed, that Stacy had, “a long and difficult battle with a serious heart condition and heart failure.”
She added, “Stacy peacefully departed this world. He fought for so long, with extraordinary courage, determination and strength. He was a true warrior, facing his illness with the same remarkable spirit and resilience that defined his life.”
Małgosia continued, “Stacy was not only a legendary actor, admired and loved by audiences the world over, but also my beloved husband, my companion and the heart of our family. His passing leaves an immeasurable emptiness in our lives. But his extraordinary spirit, his unforgettable voice and the love he gave so generously will remain with us forever.”
Now, let us know do you remember when Cynthia made her sitcom debut in Titus? Share your thoughts via the comment section on Cynthia’s many TV roles and the passing of Stacy Keach in the comment section. But first, check out the very first episode of Titus with Cynthia Watros below!
Beyond the Gates
‘Beyond the Gates’ Emmy Winner Ambyr Michelle Wants to Compete on ‘Dancing with the Stars’: ‘Pick Me’ (Exclusive)
Soap opera fans are always clamoring for when Dancing with the Stars reveals their cast each season, that they would include a familiar face from daytime drama, but it rarely happens, if ever, anymore.
Over the last several years, the series has leaned heavily into casting celebrities with massive TikTok or Instagram followers, which in turn, have helped this season and last have their best ratings numbers in years.
But, how about for next season’s cast of Dancing with the Stars, that it could include newly-awarded Daytime Emmy winner, Ambyr Michelle (Eva Thomas) of Beyond the Gates?
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LOVE OF DANCE TO LOVE OF ACTING
Michael Fairman TV spoke to Michelle about her dance background and if she would love a shot at lifting the Len Goodman Mirrorball Trophy during Wednesday’s November 11, livestream chat on the Michael Fairman Channel.
Ambyr explained to fans (who joined in on the live chat), how she began her show business career. “I started off as a dancer, first and foremost. Acting wasn’t really something I wanted to go after. I did plays when I was younger, but it was just something we did in school, but I really wanted to be a dancer. I moved out to LA to dance, and I fell out of love with dance, which was so weird.”
This year’s Emerging Talent in a Daytime Drama Series winner, added, “I was like, ‘What is going on?’ I moved all the way out here for dance. I found I was forcing myself to go to dance class, and I just didn’t have the passion for it. I was working at this restaurant at the time, and one of my coworker was like, ‘What about taking an acting class out here?'”
Next, Ambyr took the coworker up on the idea. “So, I took an acting class and I fell in love with it that day,” shared Michelle. “I was like, ‘I want to do this for the rest of my life.’ I thought, I would love to book a role, of course, as a dancer, but I think acting has a little bit more longevity.”
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A SHOT AT THE LEN GOODMAN MIRRORBALL TROPHY
When the talked turned to if Ambyr would consider or be interested in appearing on the ballroom dance competition series, she piped up with, “I would love to do Dancing with the Stars! Pick me!”
As those in the live chat rallied around this idea, it made us think, Ambyr could be the first contestant from Beyond the Gates, and someone representing the soaps. It checks off so many boxes! To which Ambyr replied, “That would be beautiful.”
You can check out the full conversation with Ambyr below.
So, what do you think soap fans? Can we make sure Ambyr’s name gets in front of the producers and casting director for next season’s Dancing with the Stars? Would you like to see her in the competition? If so, who would be your dream pro professional dance partner for her? Let us know in the comment section.
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