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The Katherine Kelly Lang Interview – The Bold and the Beautiful

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As fans of The Bold and the Beautiful witnessed in September, Brooke and Ridge got married … again!  But this time there was a twist, and it didn’t happen in front of the camera, it happened behind-the-scenes.  Ronn Moss’ unexpected and seemingly sudden decision to leave his role as Ridge Forrester after 25 years, made these on-air nuptials all the more meaningful and shocking.  And, for series star Katherine Kelly Lang (Brooke) it meant an end of a huge chapter for her – both on-screen and in the workplace – having to say goodbye to her long-time scene partner and friend.  But with that news, came more! Katherine also learned another one of the original “core four” cast members of the CBS soap will depart the series too, when Susan Flannery (Stephanie) announced her plans to exit come the end of this year.

However, through all the changes, Katherine signed on the dotted line with B&B to continue giving fans worldwide an opportunity to see more of Brooke’s perils and experiences, and the new possibilities for her character.  On-Air On-Soaps sat down with Katherine to get her thoughts on all the upheaval, to give us some insight into what’s next for Brooke, how she handled her final tape day with Ronn Moss, and what she wants her fans, who have stayed with the love story of Bridge for 25 years, to know.

While B&B’s executive producer and head writer, Brad Bell, has teased a new love interest for Brooke, we wanted to know how Lang felt about it so soon after the Bridge “I do’s,” and you will find out her answer!  We also delve into Katherine’s remarkable success with the series, and why Brooke has become so beloved internationally, even though she has done some pretty questionable things in her past, or shall we say unknowing mistakes?  Whatever the case, one thing can be said: Let’s get this talented and beautiful star her long overdue Daytime Emmy nomination soon!   And with that, here is the effervescent Katherine Kelly Lang!

MICHAEL:

Last month, we saw your final episode with Ronn Moss, when Brooke and Ridge got married once again in front of family and friends.  Those tears streaming down your face when you looked at Ronn were so touching and heartbreaking, all at the same time.  I heard from Ronn and Brad Bell, how emotional that day was.  How was it for you?  And, how did you get through it?

KATHERINE:

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I did not want to go to work that day, and I was dreading it.  It was hard to believe, and it’s still hard to believe, that Ronn is not here.  And that was the last day tape, and we were supposed to be getting married on-screen and being happy about it.  But meanwhile, Ronn and I tried that whole day to avoid each other while saying to each other, “Let’s just do our job and get through this!”  I remember when I walked down the aisle and I really had to look at him and engage, and then it was over.  I just stood in front of him, and we just couldn’t look at each other before that, because we knew what would happen and we would both fall apart.  But we just waited.  Then even in rehearsal, I had to take a moment because I started crying, and then we went back and we taped it.  And of course, I was crying when we taped.  But, you can cry at your own wedding! (Laughs)  But I tried to make it happy tears, even when everybody who watches the show knows he is leaving!  It was a very emotional day, and sad, and it was hard.

MICHAEL:

When we all learned of Ronn’s decision’s to exit the series, I was concerned for you and how you would take the news of his departure.

KATHERINE:

It was weird.   It felt lonely, and like a family breaking up after all this time.  I feel like Ronn was definitely a part of my family, and then he’s gone.  Working so closely together for 25 years, he was Brooke’ soul mate!  Ronn and I have a great friendship and that will continue, but it’s just sad not to see him here.

MICHAEL:

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As I told Ronn, I think it would be a lot worse to have made the announcement he did and then sticking around at B&B for months longer.  So in that way, perhaps a quick exit was better.  It may have made it unbearable, otherwise.

KATHERINE:

It would be worse for him, and maybe a little bit easier for all of us to get used to the idea, but harder for him to stay.  Once you make up your mind and make a decision, you just want to do it.  It worked out the way it was suppose to.  Change happens … it’s a part of life.  We will just make the best of it, and the shows goes on.

MICHAEL:

Katherine, you are now the backbone of the show as Brooke.  Do you feel more of the weight on your shoulders with the exits of Ronn, and then coming up, Susan Flannery (Stephanie)?

KATHERINE:

No.  I don’t feel the weight on my shoulders, but I do feel it will definitely be different. John McCook (Eric) and I will be the original people here, and Hunter Tylo (Taylor) has been here a long time too … but it will still be different.  The whole feeling about the show in general has already changed, and that is great because the young group we have on the show are fabulous.

MICHAEL:

What did you think when you heard that Susan Flannery was also leaving?

KATHERINE:

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Oh, my Gosh!  Double whammy!  Susan has been saying for years she is going to go.  And I would say, “Susan come on!”  Now she was like, “No. I am leaving!”  So it’s taken some years for that to happen, but it’s sad.  I just have to make a point to see her and Ronn outside the studio.

MICHAEL:

Susan and Ronn were your scene-partners, your touchstones, in which so many stories were generated through Brooke’s relationships with Stephanie and Ridge.  So, it will be quite an adjustment for both Katherine and Brooke.

KATHERINE:

Actually, this past year I have more scenes with Kim Matula (Hope) as my daughter, and what she was going through, and Brooke looking out for her.  So there has already been a transition of my scene partners.  It’s just the history that was there, and all the memories that will be really missed.

MICHAEL:

Do you have a Brooke and Ridge moment that is closest, or special to you, in your heart? Clearly, it couldn’t be the way the relationship just ended so abruptly …  over a text message debacle! (Laughs)

KATHERINE:

(Laughs) I don’t know if the fans love a particular moment, but we could be anywhere, in our bedroom, in the office, or on the beach, and what they like is that chemistry and that spark that is so sincere, and so honest.  It’s just real, fun, and sweet.  They appreciate that.  They have always been diehard fans, because they think it’s so romantic, and so real at the same time, and that is how easy Ronn is to work with.  Ronn is very accessible.  I could look into his eyes and there is a connection there.  He made it so easy and comfortable.  Brooke and Ridge had a great relationship.  So that is all very special to me.

MICHAEL:

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I saw your tweet in your initial shocked reaction to Ronn’s departure.  Did you know at all what was going on with him, and that he may leave?

KATHERINE:

We kind of knew what was going on … but I was still shocked!  I was shocked that it was all happening the way it was happening.  It’s not something you picture happening, and it happened, and so it was shocking!  You know, we probably all thought we would be here together and be one big happy family forever.  Then when it starts changing, it was like, “This can’t be happening, but it is, and it’s OK.”

MICHAEL:

Brad Bell has teased a new love interest for Brooke.  In new episodes, she is going to be helping Bill locate an MIA Katie, leading many fans to speculate that perhaps Brooke and Bill might be a romantic pair down the road.   How do you feel about having another love interest, no matter who it might be?

KATHERINE:

My question to that is why?  Why does it always have to be about a man?  I would like Brooke to have her own story about something.  There is no way, after being with the man she loves for 25 years, she is just going to fall in love and have sex.  I think it’s just weird.  I am just hoping whatever it is, it doesn’t happen that fast!  I hope it takes time to develop.  I was on the set and I was flirting with Adam Gregory (Thomas) today!  And Adam and I do that and pretend, because of the Berry storyline, and so we were doing that today! (Laughs)  Maybe things could happen there, I don’t know.  But again, I ask, why another man?

MICHAEL:

Jon Hensley is working on the show in a recurring capacity right now as Dr. Meade.  What would you think of a Hensley/Lang pairing on-screen?  I think it would be kind of “hot”!

KATHERINE:

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Jon Hensley is fabulous.  He is handsome, sexy, and talented and that manly character that would fit in well with this show.  I can see Brooke with him!  Jon is a sweetheart and I like him a lot.  To work with him would be fabulous.

MICHAEL:

Katherine, amidst all the contract talks with three of the core four members of B&B, you decided to re-up and sign a new contract that has been reported to be for two years.  Was deciding to stay, after all the turmoil behind-the-scenes, a difficult decision for you?

KATHERINE:

I love this show and I love being here, but it was at the moment a little difficult.  I am like, “Wait! Don’t leave!”   The show allows you time to do other things and have a life, and so my thing is I want to do both.  Our new schedule gives us freedom and time where we can sort of plan to do things, sort of.

MICHAEL:

The Hope/Liam/Steffy triangle had gotten so much airtime this past year, while many legacy characters were back-burnered.  What do you think about that?

KATHERINE:

I have done so much for so many years that it was kind of nice.  I liked what my character was doing.  She was being a mom and really caring for someone else other than herself for a change.  So that was fine, and also other people then had a chance on this show, and a chance to develop their storylines for those characters that are sticking around, and to build the next generation.  So it makes sense, until I read one too many comments that people wanted to see a story that involved other people as well.  Then I thought maybe the fans have a point.  And now I can say it’s coming back around to that, which is good.  It’s just involving different kinds of stories that incorporates everybody.

MICHAEL

On to an outside project:  You just completed working on the production of Crystal Chappell’s (Dani, B&B, Gina, Venice) upcoming new web series, The Grove!

KATHERINE:

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I loved working on The Grove and being a part of it.  I was there behind-the-scenes as an associate producer on the show.  I worked with Crystal Chappell on some location scouting, and trying to hook her up with the right people.  It was doing whatever needed to be done, and then being on set, and on script, and watching the monitors to see if the shots were blurry and framed right, and checking on the booms.  We had three monitors set up, because we were shooting three different cameras.  It was fun to be a part of that process, and Susan Flannery was directing.  It kind of felt like being at B&B!  I did not want to act in it.  I wanted to get into the producing side of it.  It is something that I could learn.  My step-dad is also a producer, so I have seen him through the years do what he does.  It was kind of nice doing that, and being more on that side of the business, and not having to memorize lines and be in front of the camera!

MICHAEL:

How did the shoot for The Grove ultimately go?

KATHERINE:

Actually, the shoot for The Grove went amazing!  Crystal is amazing and a great businesswomen and such a creative person … and too is Hillary B. Smith (Ex-Nora, OLTL, Stacy, B&B, Venice, Fumbling Thru The Pieces).  These are very talented people that were involved in it.  I was very happy to be a part of it.  I would love to do more of that.

MICHAEL:

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What you do know of your upcoming “story” on B&B?  What can you tell us?

KATHERINE:

I know my story to an extent.  I have an idea of what is happening and the basic story.  And yes, it will be with people that I am very excited to work with.  I think there will be some major drama ahead.

MICHAEL:

Sounds very encouraging!  Then can we pick your Emmy reel with this new material?  I am determined to get you an Emmy nomination!

KATHERINE:

Yeah! (Laughs)  Someone jokingly in the B&B office said, “Oh, Katherine will win sometime. There are only four shows left!” (Laughs)   But that cracked me up!  It’s kind of good motto to go by!  Even if I don’t win then it’s O.K.  Look to me, it’s about working and people enjoying your character, and me being happy with the job that I do and what I put into it.  There are so many actors, both men and women, who have not won a Daytime Emmy through the years that deserve them.  It’s just that I have been on a lot and so long, and have not gotten nominated. (Laughs)  But honestly, there is no animosity there.

MICHAEL:

You have to admit, there has been more behind-the-scenes drama on the soaps over the past year, that it has become much more interesting to fans than what is airing on the shows themselves!

KATHERINE:

I have always said, real life in general is a lot crazier then what goes on in the soap operas.  Some people don’t believe that! (Laughs)

MICHAEL:

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In my recent interview with Ronn Moss, he thought the future of the soaps would not be on network television, but on the Internet.   How do you see the future of the daytime drama?

KATHERINE:

I am concerned about the future of network television. There is too much money involved in network TV. And as far as what Ronn was saying in regards to web series, and having just working on recently, you see the quality you can do now for a lot less money, and everybody’s heart is still in it.  There are going to be people flocking to do web shows … and they already are!

MICHAEL:

Katherine, all over the world you are on magazine cover after magazine cover.  You have become so iconic and synonymous with B&B globally, and a fan-favorite here domestically, as well.  You have to pinch yourself on all this!  What is like to be you?  Is this the dream you had?  Did you want to be that actress who was on all the covers?

KATHERINE:

I wanted to be a movie actress, not a TV actress.  I kind of looked down on all TV, not just soap operas.  I really wanted to just do movies, and stick with that career path and see what happens.  But, you have to make a living also.  Now seeing the career that I have had?  It’s pretty amazing.  I have to say, “Wow.”   I will give myself a pat on the back for that one.  It’s pretty good that you took the job and you stayed there, and you did what you did with the character, and it became what it has.  And … B&B is one of the biggest shows in the world!

MICHAEL:

And might I add, Brooke is beloved!  She can do all those ridiculous things or missteps, and still is adored by the fans!  The audience of this show cares about Brooke.  So whatever it is you have done storyline-wise, fans worldwide have come to love and care about her, I would say, more than any other character on B&B.

KATHERINE:

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I am kind of that way as a person.  I try to be really positive and not put out any negativity, and put that out in my own life. You then in return, get so much more back and more happiness.  People gravitate to that and so appreciate that.  They so look to you for that kind of energy, whether it be through your character, or as a person.  I see that a lot now because of Twitter.  It still is amazing to me that kind of social network outlet is there.  I get so many comments or tweets from fans.  I love how you can have so many conversations with people around the world, all the time, and anytime of day.

MICHAEL:

What do your fans and followers tweet to you the most?

KATHERINE:

They all say they love the show, Brooke, or Bridge.  But, they appreciate me for who I am and the work that I do, and that makes me feel really good.  It’s not just about the work.  It’s about what you do for others, and that you mean it.

MICHAEL:

Do you see yourself at some point exiting B&B, as your co-stars just recently did?

KATHERINE:

I can at some point, but it could be who knows how long?  It could be many, many years down the line.  It is hard for me to look too far in the future to assess things.  As of now, I see myself at B&B for a long time, as well as incorporating other things in my life.

MICHAEL:

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You appeared on the season three premiere of the CBS daytime talk The Talk.  And, with the panel of co-hosts, along with Y&R’s Michelle Stafford (Phyllis) and Melody Thomas Scott (Nikki) you were on the air with no make-up!  Knowing you as I do, I don’t think that was a big deal for you.   How was it?

KATHERINE:

It was great and a lot of fun.  I have never been in a room with that many women wearing no make-up.  And the audience had no make-up on and all wore the same robes we were wearing on the panel.  You never go to a function, or even a spa, and see that!  Even in a spa, women still have their make-up on! (Laughs)  At The Talk, all the women on the panel and everyone in the audience looked beautiful!  And, you can really look at them and talk to them for who they are.  Sometimes it’s weird.  Make-up does give you a bit of a mask and a bit of a cover up.  You may not really see who that person is then for who they are inside.  Actually, I feel more comfortable without make-up.

MICHAEL:

You have always been this natural and outdoorsy beauty.  You never wear a lot of make-up.   So how do you feel when you have to get made-up?

KATHERINE:

I have been really made-up on the red carpet for the Emmys, but it goes with the whole look.  You have too!  I mean, can you imagine?  No make-up and you are wearing this gown?  (Laughs)  It just doesn’t really go together, and your face will just get lost.  So you have to kind of go with the whole look.  There have been times where I have gone to events, not a red carpet, where I just don’t feel like wearing make-up.  Then I go and kind of regret it.  I feel so out of place, because everyone there is so “done”.  So, it can be sort of awkward sometimes.  But in my real life, I just don’t wear make- up.  I like to be more down to earth and natural.

MICHAEL:

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Before we end our conversation, what would you want to say to the fans of Bridge, who rooted and stood by this couple for years and are having a tough time with the departure of Ronn Moss?  And, what that in turn means for you on-air?

KATHERINE:

I don’t know what to say to make them feel better, because I know most of them are very upset.  But, I can say that I think the Brooke and Ridge wedding was great, even though how sad it was that day to tape, but in the end, as I said, I think it was a really nice wedding.  I think the fans will be in tears over it whenever they see it.  Somewhere in the back of my mind, just like Brooke thinks, I think Ridge/Ronn will be back!  I just don’t want to believe it!  So somewhere deep down inside, I am hoping he will be back.

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Sophie
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Sophie

Great interview! KKL is B&B. I love Brooke, she is my fave character on the show. But I did not like Bridge. I wanted Nick and Brooke to be together!

Jan
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Jan

I agree. Bricky always was the only real couple for me- one of the best in daytime, IMO.

Sophie
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Sophie

Bricky was HOT. JW and KKL have SO much chemistry, the best couple on B&B ever for me. And on Daytime, other than DAYS’s E.J. and Sami.

I miss them so much and spend tons of time on Youtube, watching old Bricky clips.

Now I currently root for Bill and Katie. Team Logan all the way.

cathy
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cathy

I also agree, Brooke and Ridge WERE the show..up and down, in and out..and just had that SPARK! She is an amazing actress, at a point cried too much..but she is just so emotional. I can relate!
Go Logans! I love them..more REAL people.

teamsteffyceo
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teamsteffyceo

Mr. Fairman, I really do enjoy the interviews you do with different cast members from the Bold and The Beautiful. You do a great job in asking the right questions us fans of the show want to know. I have a problem with this particular interview you did with Mrs. Lang (Brooke Logan). Brooke does have fans around the world, but everyone who watches the show is not a fan of Brooke Logan. In this interview, I was under the impression (from your questions) that the entire audience loves Brooke. As a long time viewer of B&B Brooke Logan was… Read more »

Bonstertm
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Bonstertm

I agree! This show has become a Logan Fest and not everyone is a fan of Brooke. We’ve been begging for more Forrester and less Logan! Give Eric, Thorne, Taylor, Thomas and Steffy something to bite into besides being the props for the Logans. I love this interview. I am also a very long time B&B fan. We need more fashion and not based on a virgin teenage who cannot get married in 1 year.

L
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L

“I personally don’t see how anyone with a conscience and a soul could favor this character.” -WOW! First of all, it’s a soap and everyone is entitled to like whoever. It’s subjective. Brooke is a FICTIONAL character. Questioning REAL people’s “morals” or “conscience” or “soul” for their personal preferences is very extreme, to say the least. It says a lot more about you as a person than those that you’re accusing. Second, how about being a bit more forgiving, being more compassionate and less judgmental? Doesn’t your religion teach you that (assuming that you’re a christian)? If only people actually… Read more »

Momduxx
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Momduxx

I concur with the above comment. Brooke Logan is not beloved by everyone. In fact she has a big following who hate the character. I also would like to address where you said that KKL was the series star. I dont think she is and there are many who agree with me. She is one of a number of outstanding stars on B&B but not “THE” series star. A lot of us were happy to see Ronn go & Bridge die as we hated Bridge but we would have preferred KKL left to Ronn.. Tridge was the true couple. And… Read more »

Sophie
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Sophie

Oh PLEASE! As if KKL needs SF and RM to leave to be front and center :-)! Brooke has been a HUGE part of B&B since day 1 and continues to be.

As for Tridge being the true couple? That is HILARIOUS!

Go KKL! Go Brooke!

brookefan
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brookefan

What a load of tosh, tridge…really…oh come on.. ridge and brooke they went better together, I never really saw what they saw in him, but i liked taylor even less, she is so false, I loved brooke.

Susan
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Susan

OMG what show is this moron watching? KKL and her fits? I think you are mistaken as it is Hunter tylo who is known for her hissy fits and law suits…blah!

charming
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charming

what a nasty thing to say, kkk is not the character brooke is y would she b happy that two of her closet friends r leaving. She has sept 25yrs with these 2 people and togather they have produce some priceless storylines. Wow! it’s so sad that we speak so badly about people who have entertain us for years, who took a character and protrays her so well that we can geninuely hate not the character but the actress. KKK has being on the front burner from day one, she has made the show interesting, if Brooke did not exist… Read more »

Momduxx
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Momduxx

Oh please! A bunch of delusional whore lovers. I never watched the show to see what the whore would do next. I enjoyed the Forresters and the fashion. Not the whoring around of one Brooke Lowgan & art seems to imitate KKL’s real life. Are you people all inside of a box and don’t read what is and has been happening? KKL has taken over this show & its been going downhill ever since. READ PEOPLE READ!!! As I have said many times before, a person that enjoys a good whore or even a bad one is most likely one… Read more »

Cory
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Cory

Michael

Another brilliant interview!!! You really are good at this!!!!

And Kelly was so great with her answers. I’m soooooo ready to see what B&B is going to do with Brooke.

Thanks for sharing!!!!

Robin
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Robin

Michael:
You are brilliant at what you do. You ask the questions we all want to know. I’ve always been a huge Brooke fan! She is the show! Love reading your interviews. Thanks 🙂
xo
R

ANGY
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ANGY

how much and beautiful Brooke you can tell me something more of his/her private life and if with ridge it will always be all Ridge

Arlene
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Arlene

For me Brook and Ridge were the show, will definately miss Ridge and Stephanie also, have been watching since day 1 and will continue to do so…Love B&B…

Carole
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Carole

I like Brooke , KKL is a great actress. But thank your for interview .

kay/kay
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kay/kay

Does Jack Wagner need a job so bad he would go back when he was not even given an exit story as for the character of Brooke , sorry Ms. Lange your only storyline for 25 years has been laying on your back. Why would anything change. And for those of you who get all hysteric over the comments I am talking of the character I could care less about the actors temper tantrums off the set.

kay/kay
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kay/kay

That is Lang not Lange sorry for the misspelling of the name.

Morgan
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Morgan

I think that a slow start up of a cougar storyline of Thomas and Brooke is worth looking into. Why? Berry-boink island. The storyline was never explored as it should’ve been because his dad was still alive and Brooke was loyal to Ridge. Also, Thomas wouldn’t have done anything while his dad was alive. Yet, there are feelings on Thomas’s side and who BETTER THAN BROOKE to guide Thomas on his way? The “Brooke’ character has guided the lives of the men of Forrester since day 1 for better or worse but they all learn something and are enriched by… Read more »

Morgan
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Morgan

Thank you for this interview. It was the longest and most intense look at the “Brooke” character.

Susan
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Susan

LOVE KKL…so down to earth and sweet!

bc
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bc

a 50 something actress flirting w/ a 20 something actor who’s abt to be a father. shaking my head.

Susie
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Susie

Kelly and Susan have always been the heart of this show. Great interview. Kelly’s honest and down to earth. I was a Bridge fan until they brought in JW, and I became a Bricky fan. I just hope that with Ronn gone Bell doesn’t trash Brooke.

Rita
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Rita

First of all let me tell you I love the show and of course all of themembers but liek the way you and Steohanie have become friends its super. I always knew tha tyoua nd Ridge belonged together but he needs to come back at the farwell party of him mothe5 and at th end of the episode they both should hold hands and embrace just give me another day to cry as I will miss them bothe. Please the rest of you’ll stay.
Gods Blessings to all of you.
Happy retirement Stephanie
Ridge one more appearance please.

Rita

vfocused
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vfocused

Hope Kelly tries to get her friend Ron back for one episode of the party. It will really look bad if Ron Moss is not there. I think he will also regret and B&B, Mr. Bell will regret not getting him back to send Susan off the right way for the fans sake! It will not make any sense to bring someone else in or no have ridge there at all. That would be just wrong! Please Kelly if you are reading this, try to make it happen. You all are the core 4 that have been there from the… Read more »

Laura
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Laura

I love KKL. Brooke & Ridge were the show for me and I’ve watched since day 1. As for Brooke & Thomas….just no!

joanmarie
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joanmarie

I absolutely love KKL! She is just beautiful. I love her and Ridge together, but I actually preferred Brooke with Nick (Jack Wagner). Those two had hot, beautiful chemistry! It will be interesting to see what Bell has in store for Brooke now. KKK, PLEASE STAY!

Ziyal
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Ziyal

Thank you so much for this interview, Michael. Yes, there is still a bitter divide between the Bridge and Tridge fans, but Brooke is my girl and KKL is absolutely wonderfully down-to-earth that it’s disarming. Wonderful interview; it is obvious that you enjoy the show as much as any other fan and that is great to have in an interviewer.

Ernest
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Ernest

I already know that she and Ronn Moss (ex-Ridge) have a strong relationship offscreen. They have been working together for over 25 years. Plus, they have a connection to the other 3 actors John McCook (Eric), Hunter Tylo (Taylor), and Susan Flannery (ex-Stephanie).

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B&B’s Scott Clifton and Don Diamont Talk on the Plight of Liam & Bill and Their Cover-Up of Vinny’s Death

If you are watching current episodes of The Bold and the Beautiful then you know that Scott Clifton (Liam) and his on-screen father, Don Diamont (Bill Spencer) have been spending plenty of time together in scenes in very dramatic and intense fashion.

In story, Liam is guilt-ridden over running down Vinny Carter (Joe LoCicero) by accident when he was driving Bill’s car.  Since the moment that Vinny was killed, Bill leapt into action, destroying any evidence tying the two to the scene of the crime and continually demanding that Liam let this go and move on with his life, or the implications for the both of them could certainly be a long jail sentence, or worse.

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Now as Liam is finally making headway in a reconciliation with Hope (remember his last secret – sleeping with Steffy – was quite the doozy), this new secret of what he has done, and hiding, could up the stakes even more and take him away from his family for good … or would Hope (Annika Noelle) after finding out what Liam did be the nail in his coffin that ends their relationship once and for all and kicks him to the curb?

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Both, Scott Clifton and Don Diamont chatted virtually with Michael Fairman exclusively for You Tube’s Michael Fairman Channel to offer up for viewers and fans of The Bold and the Beautiful: an inside look at what goes on when they tape their scenes, how they see their characters motivations, and they serve up a preview of what may lie ahead in this tangled web that Bill and Liam have unfortunately weaved.

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Check out the humorous, candid, and enlightening conversation with two of the leads and mainstays of this CBS Daytime drama series below.

Then let us know; how do you think Liam and Bill can get out of the mess they find themselves in? Will Liam crumble and spill the beans? Will everyone in town get on to them and figure out the secret they have been keeping? Share your thoughts and theories via the comment section after taking a look at the virtual conversation.

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Kevin Spirtas Talks ‘After Forever’s’ Digital Special ‘Riley’s Unforgettable School Project’, The Loss of Michael Slade, and a Chance to Reprise DAYS Craig Wesley

The coronavirus pandemic has put to the test many content creators on just how they would keep their projects moving forward in ways they never dreamed of. However, out of that situation has come some of the most compelling, unique series, specials, and features currently streaming for viewers. One of which is Riley’s Unforgettable School Project, brought to you by the team from the six-time Daytime Emmy Award-winning series, After Forever.

Former Days of our Lives star, Kevin Spirtas (Ex-Craig Wesley) has starred in and created the first two seasons of what has become the most honored Emmy-awarded LGBTQ-themed drama series on any platform.  Along with his ‘After Forever’ writing/producing partner, the late Michael Slade (DAYS, OLTL, Passions, Another World), the two also conceptualized and delivered this latest documentary-style offering now on Amazon Prime Video.

What makes Riley’s Unforgettable School Project so noteworthy is not just how they were able to execute the series based on fictional 11-year-old Riley’s virtual school project and utilize its cast, which includes: Spirtas, Cady Huffman, Jamison Stern, Lenny Wolpe, Erin Cherry, Anita Gillette, Christopher J. Hanke, and Finn Douglas, but that it was made while Slade was succumbing to his battle with cancer, and that this special marks the final script from this talented writer.

 

Michael Fairman TV spoke with Spirtas about making the special during Covid-19, how the death of Michael Slade has made a lasting impact on his life, what After Forever has personally meant to him, and how an official third season is still in the works, and … if he would consider a return to Salem and Days of our Lives, should they come a-calling.  Here’s what Kevin had to say about it all.

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I think the entire story of this digital special has become even more meaningful with Michael Slade’s passing. What was the genesis of the concept? You wanted to continue the telling of the story of After Forever … but we are all in the middle of a pandemic?

KEVIN:  Yes and… when we filmed season 2, we had the scripts for season 3 already completed. It was our hope and desire to film them at the same time, back-to-back, so that we would have had all of our cast and crew together, and we could have gotten through it because we’ve always imagined this story being told in a trilogy so to speak – a beginning, middle, and end to Brian (Spirtas) and Jason, (Mitchell Anderson) and Brian’s healing or his steps towards healing through grief.  Schedules turned out that they couldn’t really work out for us to hold all the people and hold all of the sets for that amount of time.  So, we thought, “We’ve got the scripts for season 3 ready.  We’ll come back to it in the following year,” and that was always the intention, and then the pandemic hit.  So, it was shut down immediately that we weren’t going to do anything, but we wanted to stay current, and instead of going back in and telling the third installment of After Forever as a Covid-19 story as well, Michael and I sat down and looked at a way of staying relevant and current with a story within COVID, and there was born the idea to do this documentary style story/special about the characters of After Forever told through the lens of the character of Riley, the 11-year-old boy, who is now being homeschooled during the pandemic. He gets an assignment to do a project about the most unforgettable person he has ever met, and he, of course, chooses his best friend, the late Jason Adams, and he enlists all of Jason’s friends and family to join in.  Michael actually said, “What if we tell a story about Riley being homeschooled?” And, not only is Riley a technical genius at 11-years-old in the story, but Finn Douglas, who plays Riley, is a technical genius.

And didn’t Finn perform and write the song “Forever There” contained within the special?

KEVIN. Yes. He is this incredible musician.  Michael thought, “What would it be like if we asked to have the character of Finn sing a song for Jason?”  I said, “Well, what kind of song would we have him sing?”  Finn could play anything, I’m sure, because he’s self-taught, he plays by ear – guitar, piano, and drums.  Michael said, “What if we ask him to see if he could write a song?” and when we heard this song, we all called each other and we all got on Zoom and went, “Can you believe this song?  Can you believe this came out of this 11-year-old?”  It’s pretty incredible.  Michael did a gorgeous job of weaving the stories in and out and how they just sort of dove-tailed into each other, and then it was framed by Riley opening the project and ending the project.  During the Zoom reading we wanted to hear the song out loud.  We said to Finn, “Would you want to sing the song?”  We all just watched everybody on that Zoom call just fall apart.  It was just so beautiful. He’s an amazing talent.

Where is your character within this?

KEVIN:  I still stand in the center of the story of Jason because my character, Brian, was married to Jason, and it sort of connects us all, and through Riley’s understanding of how we all connect to Jason, is how we are all sort of spread out throughout the story.  Michael jokingly said, “You know, you’re not going to be the star of this special,” and I said, “I don’t think it’s about being the star.  It’s really about the storytelling.”  The beauty of Riley’s Unforgettable School Project is that we get to see moments of each person’s relationship with Jason, which Riley sets out to say, “Answer these three questions: What did you like most about Jason?  What did you like least about Jason? And what’s your favorite memory?”  Those three things, cut back and forth is where we all kind of fit in.  Nobody has more of a story than the next person, and it’s all telling honest portrayals of how they’re dealing with their loss of their good friend, or their child, or partner.

It’s a very inventive idea during Covid-19 to continue it in a way where you weren’t having to go shoot a full season of episodes.

KEVIN:  Well, we couldn’t. I have to say, Allison Vanore, who not only produced this special, but she also stepped up saying, “I’d love to direct this,” and I said, “Yes, please!”  She knows the characters.  She understands the story because she’s been a part of it for the last two seasons.  Allison also has this extraordinary amount of knowledge and expertise with the camera and what was needed for a remote shoot, and to also be able to organize filming 13 people in 2 different countries and 5 different cities… that’s just the technical side of it, but having that in our back pocket, knowing that it was a remote shoot, we had to send the camera, the computer, the ring light, and the microphone to each person’s house.  We had to location scout over Zoom.  We had to do wardrobe over Zoom.  It was all this big puzzle putting it together, and once you look at that board of storytelling and how we were going to do it, it kind of fell into place.  I feel blessed that a) we still had Michael with us, at that point, and b) Allison had the know-how to do this.  We all feel that at least this pandemic didn’t keep us from doing what we love.

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In terms of the contribution of Michael Slade in this special, was it the construction of the story, and how was he able to work and write this during his illness?

KEVIN:  Michael’s contribution to the special was no less than the contribution to season 1 and season 2, and the future of season 3, because the scripts are written.  We did everything on Zoom, and we worked around his schedule of treatment.  We scheduled 2 people per day, and we spread them out over two weeks.  He was very present, and when there would be a day where he would say, “I’m going to be an hour late, let’s just push that call time,” I would ask, “Is this too much right now?  We can shelve it; we can stop it.” He’d then say, “Absolutely not, otherwise cancer will win.”  He was determined to stay focused and to stay active because it took his mind off of what was happening to him.

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It would be lovely moment if you both were to win a Daytime Emmy for this project. 

KEVIN:  It’s our last collaboration together as a team, as I said, season 3 has been scripted, and it is on the calendar to get made.  We are just waiting for the COVID restrictions to lift a little bit and everyone to get vaccinated.  Michael was really hit hard with cancer – to stay healthy was so challenging for him.  Sadly, he didn’t make it to see the final edit of the special, and he died four days before we launched, but he had seen the cuts before that and was very approving of it, and had made some decisions, and offered some suggestions, and if God gives him an Emmy for this, it’s not because he died.  It’s because it’s great work.  It just happens to be that the work that was involved in this particular special was very tricky.  It brought up everything, like life itself to have to deal with.  Here we are dealing with the loss of a colleague, the loss of a friend, someone’s brother, someone’s son, this is life imitating art, imitating art imitating life. I can’t tell you the darkness that I went through just experiencing the need to stay focused on getting everything edited, and everything ready, and everything aligned for a release of this project that we had put into motion.  On top of it, our editor lost his mother just before Michael passed, and Allison’s mom was sick at the time, as well.  It took a lot of heavy deep breaths with Michael’s death, and the pandemic, and the loss has, for me, on a personal level, sent me back to really questioning my spiritual muscle and to help remind me that we have to come out of this better than we went into this.  I had many dark nights of the soul this last year, and December was probably the darkest.  I feel like I’m just kind of coming out of it now with the spring revealing itself.

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It must have been extraordinarily difficult for you to also go to New York during a pandemic and also knowing Michael did not have much time left.

KEVIN:  I will say this: I am grateful that I was able to stay in touch with my heart and my instinct and go out to New York to let that be my remote location.  Yes, maybe there was some risk involved.  I wore my mask; I was Covid-19 negative, and I was determined to be fine.  Once I got to New York, I would visit him very protectively with our masks and our gloves, and I’d sit across the room, and then I’d go back to the house I was at.  It was a gift that I was able to see him at that time.  We had some good talks then about how he was feeling, and I think he was still being optimistic, and then once we got the project in the can there was maybe this psychic letting go. That’s when everything really started to reveal itself as this could be the end.  I did go back to see him when he was in hospice.  I think I was there the last two days that he really was able to really stay coherent.  He would close his eyes and be at peace and quiet for a minute, and he would finish a conversation and sort of close his eyes, not to sleep and not to go away, but I remember watching him going, “Look how peaceful he is,” and then he’d open his eyes and he’d remember that he is in this body that has been given a time limit of life, and he’s on his way out.  I’d watch the fear go back in his eyes.  At one point, he did say, “I’m so scared,” and I just held his hand, and I said, “I’m scared too.  Let’s be scared through this together.”  I don’t know how to navigate grief like that.  We are all going to be in a position at some point where we are going to be on the other side of the hand holding.  The wonderful thing is that we were able to have honest communication about our feelings.  I thanked him for everything that he has done for me and how he believed in my talent and creativity and our partnership.  I will always take that with me.  I waved my finger at him, and I said, “Listen.  Now, we wrote a series about a man talking to his deceased husband.  You’d better talk to me!”  So, we laughed about that.

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You’ve done a lot of things in your career from Broadway to television, and of course, daytime fans know you best as Dr. Craig Wesley on DAYS.  How does the entire After Forever project stack up to you within all that you have done?

KEVIN:  Former DAYS casting director Fran Bascom, sought me out and offered me this 2-day role on Days of Our Lives, and those 2 days turned into 8 years, and unbeknownst to me at the time, the final 3 months of that contract of those 8 years, Michael Slade was brought in to write.  We didn’t cross paths at that point, but years later, when we did cross paths in New York, and then After Forever was born, that was that universal crossing point.  I am most proud of the fact that we were able create something fresh, and real, and personal to ourselves that we didn’t have to cater to any “powers that be” that had their vision and their tinkering, that they thought that it could be better in this way or that way.  Then for After Forever to gain such recognition, within the film festivals, and the Emmys, and then, just after Michael died, we won the GLAAD award for Special Recognition this year.  We don’t even fit into one of their categories!  They found a way to acknowledge this project.  If another Emmy happens again, that might be another one to put up on the shelf for After Forever that would be beautiful, and I couldn’t have done it without Michael.

For the Daytime Emmys this year, what category have you entered Riley’s Unforgettable School Project?

KEVIN:  We are not a series this year, we are a daytime fiction special, and the “Daytime Fiction Special” category is a special class.  It’s anything that’s digital in the construct of less than 40 minutes.  NATAS (National Academy of Television Arts and Sciences) is being bombarded with so much content, they’re trying to find ways to put categories together.

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So, now, when we last saw Days of Lives’ Dr. Craig Wesley, where was he? (Laughs)

KEVIN: (Laughs) He was in a flash from the past or something in the DOOL app’s Last Blast Reunion series. I had a fun time working with Patrika Darbo (Nancy) and Nadia Bjorlin (Chloe), once again.

So, if they were to want Craig to come back to DAYS, would you be all for it?

KEVIN:  Hell yes!

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Now, what story would you want to be told involving Craig? 

KEVIN:  When Craig was first on the canvas in Salem, there was a lot of mustache twirling and a lot of hand wringing.  He was always plotting; most of the time with Nancy.  It was kind of this high drama, evil villain storyline being told, but when the writers created an opportunity for us to be on after those first three months by bringing on Chloe without a father, there was something real about it.  It may have been told under the construct of soap opera storytelling, but there was a reality-based story about, “You have a daughter, and we are just now finding out about it?”  Then, finding a cure to her health was another realistic story, and finding out that Craig was her real father.  Anything that’s reality based is what I’m getting to.  I would welcome any job that brings me back and gives me an opportunity to dive into something real.

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Would you welcome the opportunity to play a gay character on daytime; in a medium where there are very few represented in storylines?

KEVIN:  I’d have no problem with that.  Do you know anybody who is starting that?  Let’s do it!  (Laughs) First of all, there’s nothing to hide anymore.  There’s nothing to pretend you’re not anymore.  I would think that bringing in a storyline that deals with anything outside the norm that we are used to seeing would be interesting.  How many times can you retell a story?  How many times can you set the same story up with another couple?  So, why not be diverse and have a stylized story being told through the lens of a gay person.

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In closing, so many go through life without acknowledging people who had an impact them.  We don’t give pats on the back, often enough, and especially in Hollywood, where people can be very self-involved.  You have already paid tribute to Michael Slade in our discussion, but what gift from him is your personal takeaway?

KEVIN:  The gift that Michael really gave to me is to remember to be kind to myself and to others, and to acknowledge and salute the person who is in front of us, because we don’t know when we will have, or if we will have, another moment to do that.

Now below, check out the trailer for Riley’s Unforgettable School Project.  Then let us know, what do you think of its concept? Kevin’s thoughts on the passing of his collaborator on the project, Michael Slade? And, do you hope DAYS brings back Dr. Craig Wesley? Share your thoughts via the comment section.

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GH’s Kin Shriner Talks on Franco’s Demise, Scott’s Budding Romance with Obrecht, and His Enduring On-Screen Partnership with Genie Francis

One of the most beloved actors in the history of General Hospital, Kin Shriner, currently finds his alter-ego, Scott Baldwin, in a new budding on-screen romance with none other than Liesl Obrecht (Kathleen Gati).

This comes on the heels of Scott learning the devastating news that his son, Franco Baldwin was shot and killed, thus writing-off the ABC daytime drama series, for now, popular actor, Roger Howarth.

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Throughout his now almost 44-year-run on the ABC daytime drama series, Kin Shriner has brought his unique acting chops that helped mold the character of legal eagle Scott Baldwin into the humorous, at times cutthroat, endearing and many times heartbreaking character we have all come to love.’

 

In a brand new exclusive virtual sit-down interview with Michael Fairman on You Tube’s The Michael Fairman Channel, Shriner opens up about his history with GH and the times he stepped away to take on roles on Texas and As the World Turns, and then back again to the town of Port Charles and GH.

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As well, Kin reveals his reaction to learning the news that Roger Howarth would be exiting the show as his TV son and how he shot the key emotional scene where Laura (Genie Francis) tells Scott that Franco had died.  Shriner shares that he does not see how when Howarth returns to the show in as a yet-to-be-revealed character, that it would be a stretch if the two were some how related, but that he will miss working with the talented Howarth as a scene-partner.

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As to the women in Scott’s life, Kin addresses each of them from: Lucy (Lynn Herring), Bobbie (Jackie Zeman), Dominque (Shell Danielson), Laura (Francis), Ava (Maura West) – to which the character could never get that close to – and now Liesl (Gati), and working opposite all the powerhouse actresses who portray them.

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For fans of General Hospital who have watched the series for decades, Kin also shares memories of working with his late TV parents, Peter Hansen (Lee), Susan Brown (Gail) and his friend and former GH castmate John Reilly (Sean), plus backstage stories with his longtime scene partner, Genie Francis.

Watch the entire conversation with Kin below.

Now let us know, are you all for the Scott and Liesl romance? Will you miss scenes between Scott and Franco?  Would you ever want to see Scott and Laura reunite romantically? Share your thoughts in the comment section.

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