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The Maria Arena Bell and Paul Rauch Interview – The Young and the Restless

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As of this week, with more than 9,330 episodes aired on network television, and having ranked as the #1 daytime drama for 21 consecutive years (that’s over 1,100 consecutive weeks, for anyone who is counting) in the soap genre, The Young and the Restless has set the standard for quality and excellence.  In a time where doomsday reports continue to signal that the soap genre is becoming an endangered species, Y&R is still going strong. The series will celebrate its 37th anniversary next month, on March 26th.  So what are the secrets to success that keep Genoa City on the map?  On-Air On-Soaps sat down with two of daytime’s greatest creative forces, Y&R Co-Executive Producers, Maria Arena-Bell and Paul Rauch, better known as “The Dream Team,” to get some answers.

But before we begin, let’s take a look at a bit of the background.  As many know, Maria Arena Bell, (daughter-in-law to Y&R’s late creator, Bill Bell) back in 2008, also took over the head writing reigns.  She began to restore the glory of Y&R without comprising the integrity of her cast, characters, and the history of the show.  Enter Rauch, who with tenures as head honcho at Another World, One Life to Live, Guiding Light and Santa Barbara, and whose classic soap values lends itself to Y&R’s on-screen culture, was a perfect match for Bell’s sensibilities.  So how do the duo work in synergy?  You’ll find out.  And, we discuss the topics that have been on many fans minds, the re-casting of Stephen Nichols in the role of Tucker McCall, and Darius McCrary in the role of Malcolm Winters… plus, the duo’s thoughts on the health and prosperity of the current state of the genre.
This is a must read for any long time viewer of The Young and the Restless, as we take a look from the inside at the inner-workings of the number one show on daytime.

MICHAEL:

Part of what the two of you have accomplished together, is that you seemed to have restored the historical value of Y&R, and continued where creator, Bill Bell, had left off.  Was that the plan?

MARIA:

When I came back it was during the strike, and it was fairly sudden that I stepped in.  The only way of storytelling that I really knew was what I learned from Bill Bell, when I was here before and when I was at B&B.  It was all about these character driven stories and rich characters. The minute I got here, it was those characters I knew as a fan and loved, that were brought to the forefront again because I knew the value of those characters and the history of them.  I knew by mining the history and really building story out of character that it was really going to be successful for the show, because that is how this show has always been done.

MICHAEL:

Can you give me an example when you came in and re-plotted the path of a legacy storyline?

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MARIA:

There were a few things I noticed immediately that seemed wrong to me or did not feel right.  One of those was Jill and Katherine relating as mother and daughter.  That was something that immediately felt false to me, and because I did not believe it, I kept thinking in my heart, “I just know they are not mother and daughter.”  And that was how that storyline was born, because watching them together felt false.  I had watched all of the 80’s with the two of them fighting viciously and the 90’s, too.  It was such an incredible relationship that I just don’t feel it or believe it on some intrinsic level.  I think there were a lot of people in the audience who did not feel it 100% true.

MICHAEL:

Jeanne Cooper (Katherine) in past interviews was vocal about it.  She had always spoken that she wished the relationship was switched back to Jill and Kay not being related. Does an actor’s preference or thoughts ever influence you or the writing?

MARIA:

I can tell you when I started feeling it, I did not know about Jeanne’s position on it.  However, I met with Jeanne and she was not shy about saying that it felt false to her, and in some ways I think it felt false to Jess Walton (Jill), too.  Not that they did not play the story beautifully and believably, it’s just those of us who knew their characters were like, “Really?  They are mother and daughter?   I don’t know about that.”  It was more of my gut instincts than anything.  But, Bill Bell would have told you in his era, that the actors had zero influence on the show and that was the Bill Bell way, to be honest with you.  It’s one of those things where people say, “Are you exactly like Bill or are you not?”  The truth is, I am not exactly like Bill because I do like talking to the actors, particularly the people who have been in these roles for so very long who understand the characters so very well.

MICHAEL:

I am sure the show veterans have great insight into their classic soap roles.

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MARIA:

There was a one time where Peter Bergman (Jack) was nominated for an Emmy and in reviewing his submission reels he would say, “You know, I can’t find anything I can really sink my teeth into here.”   He was not sure of what storyline to submit and we were talking about it and he said, “I just want the Abbott family together.”   Peter was talking about wanting the actors back together, but that is really true to who Jack Abbott is.  He has this vision of the Abbots being back together and owning Jabot, and that comment alone drove the storyline for me.  It clarified, of course, that that is intrinsic to the character and the actor, and that has been Jack’s guiding dilemma.  He gets really close and then it moves away.  It’s sort of been something we have done for the last two years, and that definitely came from Peter.

MICHAEL:

Paul, you have been at the helm of many a soap opera.  Did you come to Y&R and put the Paul Rauch stamp on it?  And what do you feel you contribute to the overall process?

PAUL:

No, the show had its own stamp and Maria has put her stamp on the show.  I think the single most important thing that I got accomplished when I came here, was to make good the relationship between writing and production and to establish proper communication, which there was a lack of.  Maria was having a hard time getting through to production and she needed to be way more involved than she was and consulted a lot more than she was.  I think we took care of that in pretty short order.  I think Maria has great taste in acting, and great taste in actors. I think she and I are in sync with everything we do.

MICHAEL:

What do you feel is the single most important element for Y&R’s success?

PAUL:

It all comes from the writing. Maria has the whole show in her head and in her hands, and it comes through every single week.  My job is to get the performances from the actors, get the nuances from the actors, realize the subtext, and give the writers back what they have given to me in large measure.

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MICHAEL:

Paul, we hear you are pretty hands-on at the set.   Are you in the production booth most of the time?

PAUL:

I am there, and I am in the control room all the time, and Maria is here in her office.  We communicate.  If she does not like something, she will let me know, or if I don’t like something I will let her know, and we take care of.  It’s good synergy.

MICHAEL:

Working with the actors and giving them a slight shift or note on their performance is something you are known for on the set.  Can you give me an example of how that works and helps the scenes?

PAUL:

First off, the actors have always been fabulous.  I haven’t made them better actors, but I can help them realize certain things.  For example, I was playing a scene with Tucker McCall, our new billionaire, and Jill Abbott.  They have had a sexual relationship, and it had morphed into a business relationship with sexual over and undertones.  Tucker said, “You can work anywhere you want and anywhere in my division.  I will even start a company up for you, if you want.”  She played it as if she wanted Jabot only.  Instead of realizing this man was really reaching out to her, because of the relationship they had…the personal relationship.  He was making an enormous offer, which for him was a tribute to their relationship, as well as everything else going on.  I asked Jess to play it, and she took her time with that, and Jill was gratified by the offer and she was pleased with him as a man.  So, we can get extra value in those moments just by me talking to the actors about that moment, in addition to what is on the page.

MICHAEL:  

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Stephen Nichols was quickly recast as Tucker McCall, and William Russ who had just started, was let-go.  How did you come to make a decision like that, and why was the switch made so early on during Russ’s time with the show?

MARIA:

I think we wanted to play the character originally in a different direction.  This is an incredible cast and it’s all about the chemistry between everybody on the screen, and as much as I think William Russ is a fantastic actor, when I watched the scenes it was not exactly how I wanted Tucker to be.  It was not exactly how he was conceived to be, and rather than walk down the road where you are thinking, “Well, it’s not quite right, but maybe…”   It felt like it was going to be better to make a decisive move early on.  I figured the audience would accept it better, if it happened very quickly.

PAUL:

So, it’s not as much of a blow.

MARIA:

Honestly, in watching Stephen in the role, he is Tucker McCall.  He is the character we had created.  It was one of those things that was not fitting with what that character needed to be.  There is no accepting what is not quite right, and the way it was going to impact the storytelling was what is important to me.

MICHAEL:

Recently, you re-cast the role of Malcolm, played originally by Shemar Moore who was so identifiable in the role, with another actor, Darius McCray.  Fans have been unsure of why that choice was made.  He looks so different from Shemar.  How do you make these decisions to recast a major role like that, with someone who is a complete 180 from what the fans might expect?

MARIA:

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I remember I was here when we cast Shemar, and the role of Drucilla.  I was working for Bill then.  I remembered how those characters really popped.  What I remembered of the character of Malcolm was, he was conceived as a guy who had spent some time where he had been on the streets.  He was artistic, he was edgy, and Shemar was phenomenal. When we went to cast for it, we looked at what the original conception of the character was; not about casting an actor who would do an imitation of Shemar doing Malcolm, but an actor who would own the role, who would be Malcolm.  It’s a classic story of the brother who is the good guy who always achieved everything, and went to Stanford and got an MBA, and is now running a company, and the other brother who struggled and made something out of his life, but is more the creative type. It’s such a core of the show to bring that brother back and to have Malcolm come back, and be inhabited by a new actor, and have it go back to the origins of the character.  I think he can play this edgy, creative, young maverick that Malcolm should be.  I think Darius is going to pop off the screen in that role and be a very popular character.

MICHAEL:

When the two of you are in auditions together, do you know immediately when the right actor walks in for the part you are casting?

MARIA:

We have been really in sync, such as the character of Daisy.  When Yvonne Zima came in to read for that role, it was like, “Wow, did she pop!”  She made us go, “Oh, my gosh. She is fantastic!”  You just feel it…. that everything we have talked about in regards to that character, and then that person walks in, you know it.  It was also true of Darius.

PAUL:

The Darius McCray audition was one of the greatest the network had seen in 20 years.

MARIA:

The quality of the actors that were up for the role was extraordinarily high.  Everyone who came in for the final audition, and there were four in the finals, they were all fantastic.  They were all very different from one another, and in the end, it was about this kind of special quality that Darius had.  We just felt that “Star Quality”.

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MICHAEL:

Do you ever face challenges where you have a more difficult time writing for certain characters?

MARIA:

You have to be careful when you write story not to write them into a corner where it becomes difficult to play them.  I think one of the most challenging things to play is a happily married couple.  I think that is one of things that is a challenge for everybody in this business.  For instance, the fans love seeing Lauren and Michael together.  They are a couple people absolutely love.  So if you are going to tell a story with them, the jeopardy needs to be external and about something else.  They do not want to see them fighting or having marital problems, because that is a couple they can believe in.  So, it does not mean it’s less inspiring to write for them, because for one thing they are two of the more fantastic characters on the canvas on the show.  But it does mean you have to think about how you tell story a little bit differently, which is not a bad thing.  It challenges you and pushes you in a different way.

MICHAEL:

Do you use fan focus groups as input to how stories and characters are working with the audience and use their feedback to alter or determine story?

PAUL:

We do focus groups.  I think you can take certain things from focus groups but you cannot rely on them.  I know people from shows and executives who rely too much on them, but I don’t think that is the case here.  But it’s always good to get a taste of what the audience is feeling or thinking. You take what you can or want out of it.

MARIA:

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I think what is interesting is going back to how Bill thought about focus groups.  He thought it was old information because we have moved past that in storytelling, and the audience is actually commenting on what they are seeing now.  It was things like that, which made him feel it was inaccurate.  What has changed and has made it really interesting is the ability to poll people immediately online – the stuff CBS.com and SONY has done on their websites to see immediate responses of what happened the day of air and that does make us more nimble.   Now that does mean we can sense how the audience is feeling.  I am not saying that I would pull a story totally out if it was not working, but I certainly see the negative feedback.

PAUL:

I will also know if something will work instinctively…. if I am on the floor.

MICHAEL:

So what happens if you are on the floor, and you go, “this is not working”?

PAUL:

Maria will know before I will.

MARIA:

It’s like I can tell when there is a story I need to segue out of because it’s been played out, or it’s not as strong a story as I had hoped, and it does happen.  It happens very rarely though on Y&R, because production is so strong and the actors are so incredibly strong. You write a storyline and it’s almost always better once it’s produced, even than it was in your own head, as opposed to having this great concept in this head, and going, “Oh, geez! That was not what I really had in mind.”  Instead, I am constantly astounded on this show on how the production is.  I am constantly going, “Wow, this is fantastic.  This is better than my draft.”

MICHAEL:

Do you feel pressure to keep this show at number one?

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PAUL:

I provide my own pressure.  It’s more difficult when all of the shows are cutting back because of their financial situations.  I would say for Maria and myself, while we struggle with it, we are winning the battle.  Maria is winning the battle on the writing side, and I don’t think anybody is seeing a diminution of production values.  The pressure for us comes on trying to get the show done on time, get the performances that we want.  But we streamline it, and make it as efficient as we want. We still get it done and maintain the same value.

MICHAEL:

Y&R was known for those long arduous scenes back in its heyday, and now it seems to have quick shorter scenes or snippets.  Did you intentionally change the pace?

MARIA:

As far as that goes, look, the pacing is certainly different than it was 21 years ago, especially historically.  There were longer scenes.  If people watched it now they would be surprised at how long those scenes were.  The change is the pacing has evolved in a nice hybrid, and it’s not like we are attempting to be primetime and cut to that level and be a feature film.  We are still a daytime serial, and we are intimate, and it’s still about character, and sometimes you do create movement in a show through editing and the alignment of the scene.

PAUL:

Everyone would say and agree that the show has maintained its integrity and become more streamlined.  I think this show kind of rocks right now.

MARIA:

That is the goal to keep it as engaging as possible in this day and age.

MICHAEL:

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What are your feelings on the state of the genre and the stability of Y&R?   We know it’s been renewed for two more years, but CBS just cancelled in the same year both Guiding Light and As the World Turns.

MARIA:

I think it’s still a viable genre and still unique, and what we do here at Y&R sort of defies the odds; in that we led the year in every demographic, and primarily winning the youngest demographic, which is the most volatile.  Look, I think it’s a totally viable art form, and it’s totally unique, and it’s the only art form where you get into these characters to the extent you can.  Where else can you have this epic storytelling unless you are reading a Dickens novel?

MICHAEL:

With game shows and reality shows taking over television and daytime, it feels like we are losing must-see appointment television, which soaps are!

MARIA:

We were both saddened to see any daytime drama cancelled.  It’s really disappointing for all of us, because we want to see them all stay on the air.  That being said, we are very fortunate with this show to be in the position we are.  And we have shown it’s possible to have gains or hold your own, and stay viable with the audience.  And I think we have proved that.  So, when you ask about the pressure to be number one, I don’t think about it as I am telling the story or as I am doing my job.  Because at that point, I am thinking about doing the absolute best that I can do and am capable of, and bring my team together to do the best we can do, and it’s an incredible group effort.  We want to achieve the excellence we can for ourselves and for our fans.  The fact that we are number one is fantastic and it’s not to be taken for granted.

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MICHAEL:

One of the things Y&R does differently than the other soaps is truly hold back storyline shockers so they do not leak out too early to ruin the big surprise.  ABC lets some of their story out a month or so before it airs.  Is this part of the ingredients to your successes?

MARIA:

Sure. You have to tune in.  We have managed to keep some very must-see things a secret till it’s time to reveal them.  Really hard secrets to keep….we have blacked out names in scripts, changed names in scripts; brought in people after hours… we have done that.

PAUL:

We cast all contract parts by other names!

MARIA:

Sure, and even beyond that.  For instance, when we were bringing back the character of Phillip III with Thom Bierdz, Thom was just an incredibly beloved guy in that role when I was here in the 80’s.  To me, he always captured that spirit as to what that role was.  I still stand by that story.  I loved bringing him back and having him on the canvas.  I wanted to keep it a shocker surprise.  So, poor Thom was sworn to secrecy, and everyone in the building was sworn to secrecy.   I think Thom was a great partner in making it a surprise.  I remember meeting him to talk to him about the role at some coffee shop like, “I will meet you by the third pillar and we will talk about this.” (Laughs)  Because it’s about shocks and surprises… this is about what is going to happen next… this is about cliffhangers.   I think one of things I think I instilled back into the show was building towards that Friday tag, and wondering what’s going to happen over the weekend and having that burning curiosity of  “Oh, my God!”  And that goes back to the classic soaps and days of radio, and that is what soaps are about.

MICHAEL:

Now, don’t you also try to get big moments to happen during the week so they are not only in Friday tags?

MARIA:

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In the storytelling I try to do that, but my team is sort of addicted now to the Friday tags.  They are like, “But wait, should we do that at the end of the week?”  I am like, “No, you have to have surprises on other days, too.”   Everyday is a Friday is my motto, but I do like the idea of audiences on pins and needles over the weekend.”   I love what fans are doing on the message boards going, “OMG!  What’s going to happen?”

MICHAEL:

Do you read the message boards?

MARIA:

I do, of course.  And so does my writing team, and Paul does.  And is it sometime tough when there is negative feedback?  Yeah, it can be tough to read that.  But on top of it, not only do we read it and listen, but also we are not always dictated by what the fans say, because as you say, sometimes you do want to do something that pushes them to the edge.  And right now that is the character of Adam.  Is he a hate or love to hate?  People are obsessed with when is this guy is going to get his comeuppance!  They scream, “I can’t take it anymore!”  I get it and I understand, and I know it’s driving you crazy, but that is the point. We want you to like, “Argh, when is it going to unravel?”  Because, when it does, and it will, it will be huge!

MICHAEL:

Has there ever been a time where an actor comes to you and goes “I don’t like this. What is going on here”?

MARIA:

Sure, most often.  I have never had a meeting where actor does not walk out going, “Ok, now I get it.  I get that it’s a journey.”

PAUL:

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You don’t tell the actors their entire story because they have to play it in the moment and you don’t want them to anticipate the end of the story of what they are playing.  You need that degree of spontaneity from the actor, and the enthusiasm from the actor is important.  I had an actor come to me last night going, “Why won’t you tell me what is going on here?”  I looked at him and said, “You have got to play the moment and the spontaneity of it.”

MICHAEL:

What happens when actors want to know their storylines a year out so they know how to play something?  It seems some actors I have talked to say they know story quite in advance, and some don’t know at all.  Do you let them know?  Do they leave you alone on that since you are the writer?

MARIA:

Quite the opposite, I get grilled!   They go, “Am I going to be with so-so?”  I won’t answer!  I tell them, “I can’t tell you.”  I mean there are times when somebody is really concerned about a direction their character is going in and selectively we talk about it. But in general, that’s part of the ride and being on this side, and the group of people we have now, they have faith in the standards of the writing, and so they are not questioning a lot.

MICHAEL:

Victor/Nikki, Sharon/Nick are some of the true super couples of the show.  Don’t you think romance is a key ingredient to Y&R’s integral success?

MARIA:

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I think it’s not just the couples. Victor and Nikki is one of the most powerful love stories on the show and even through when they are not together they have this pull, and even when they are married to other people, there is this pull that will never end.  It’s an incredible larger than life, grand love story.  But I think as much as those relationships, it’s the family and friend relationships that are just as crucial.  I think that intense rivalry between Jack and Victor, and that incredible friendship between Victor and Katherine, and the links that she had to John Abbott and how that translates to Jack, if you really examine it.  It’s all these relationships that are pivotal.  It’s the families on the show.  I think that is something that is at the core of storytelling in the genre: their histories and their rivalries and their alliances.  One shining example of that was recently within the Victor and Jack rivalry, and then the Abbots facing that difficult decision of Colleen’s heart, and giving an absolute beloved child of that family to someone who has been their sworn enemy in many ways.  It really showed how those rivalries change and morph and are still there, and it sets up these incredibly strong dilemmas.  That is just as important.

MICHAEL:

Y&R has a legacy of great psycho and twisted characters like Sheila, and now Patty.

MARIA:

Stacy Haiduk as Patty/Emily has been great in every single one of the morphs she has had to play on the show.  I think you need catalysts that make things happen, which are a little twisted or a villainess perhaps, or a little off, or a little crazy, to inject into a grounded realistic group of characters and that does add some spice and excitement to it.

MICHAEL:

Social issues have been a big part of Y&R’s history, and in 2009 you tackled the gay issue with Phillip Chancellor returning some 20 years later, announcing he is gay to his family.  He is now off the canvas.  Will Y&R address same-sex relationships in the future?

MARIA:

I would absolutely like to do more with that, and I loved and love the character of Phillip, and his son, Chance, is still on the canvas.  Nina is on his canvas, his mother and grandmother are on the canvas, and he will be back.  The truth of the matter is I wanted to do those relationships in this very organic way.  So, I absolutely think there will be in the future, love for everyone in the show at some point.

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MICHAEL:

Your closing thoughts on why Y&R is so unique in the soap world?

MARIA:

The thing that has made this special is still these characters.  I think there is something magical about this show, and the magic is still there and I think that is why people are tuning in.

PAUL:

You’ve got to have magicians.  Well, two magicians! (Laughs)

For more on Y&R with Maria and Paul look for an upcoming issue of CBS Watch! Magazine.  You can subscribe here.

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Rob
Rob

I can’t believe a word out of their mouths, especially when they praised Yvonne Zima to the high heavens. That girl cannot act to save her life! She needs to be off Y&R, they should recast Lily, and for heaven’s sake, bring Victoria Rowell back as Dru.

TEXAS woman
TEXAS woman

There will never be another Nikki and Victor! Hell the Nikki and Victor we have now is no where near where they used to be!! He is abusive to her and she is submissive!! why would need another couple like that!! and Nick and Sharon are old school, old news and DIVORCED!!!! Why can’t they fade into the land of all of the other divorced couples in the soap world!!! They sucked as a couple for 10 TOXIC years!!! We don’t want them back together!! When will TPTB finally listen to the fans and move forward instead of trying to relive the past!

preity
preity

They need to bring romance back starting with Nick and Sharon, they truly are a supercouple. They don’t need to have stupid surprises every week the need better writing and more character driven storylines instead of stupid plot twists. They also need to stop dumbing down vetren characters to prop the stupid new ones ie..Daisy and Lauren, Adam and Sharon

Sadie
Sadie

Sharon IS a vertaran actress; NOT a “new character.” You must be new to the show.

gman
gman

What I think the post meant to do was give examples of how veteran characters have been twisted in order to accommodate new characters, Lauren being snowed by Daisy, and Sharon being tricked by Adam

preity
preity

THANKS GMAN THAT IS WHAT I MEANT

Bill
Bill

I think they should bring back Dina!!!!

JimTolkien
JimTolkien

In Jan 2008, Y&R had almost 6,000,000 viewers, it’s now Feb 2010 and Y&R is just barely above 5,000,000. And this is called a success, pfttttt!!! I am not even going to comment on parts of this interview because it is clear MAB & PR believe in their “own brilliance” **rollseyes** while the viewership downturn and dissatisfaction says otherwise. It’s not worth it to comment. I am probably more embarassed for CBS really the #1 network for quality, (my favorite network aside from CNN), that they are scraping so far at the bottom and so desperate that they actually think this Y&R product is a good thing!!! It’s embarassing what passes for #1 these days – doesn’t say much for soaps, does it! Yvonne Zima got a WOW and she pops onscreen, Darius McCrary, the best audition the network has ever had, really Maria ?, really???? Sounds a bit more defensive and overcompensating for just how terrible those choices were/are.

But more than anything Michael being a a big fan of yours, the only thing that this interview caused was that you have a lost a lot of credibilty with me. I can’t believe you did not ask any tough questions here. It’s as if the soap press takes it easy on Y&R because they know the genre is dying off and don’t want to rock the boat further. The genre is full of recycled stories and recycled fans who move from soap to soap and they have no way of garnerning new viewers who can prolong it or writing for those longtime viewers who actually don’t mind the silliness now and then, but we are a lot smarter than you give us credit for and all this does in the long run is drive us away, bit by bit.

And not to make a bad analogy here, this entire interview reminds me so much of Toyota right now, it’s only a matter of time before the implosion occurs. We can only be strung along for so long. I thought perhaps maybe I was complaining too much about how poorly Y&R is being written and produced, a show I have watched and loved for over 30 years – MAB just confirmed for me that she hasn’t got a clue, she is NOT CREATIVE enough to think outside the box with her stories. For every story aside from the BRILLIANT CHIPMUNK malarkey **rollseyes**, I can go back in time and remember exactly how Bill Bell wrote it. And all she has done is go back into the archives, dig up his stories and made a MOCKERY out of them.

MAB & PR should stop trying to re-create the past because they suck at it..and it’s not healthy to live in the past anyway!!!!!!!!!

Fans of The Young and the Restless
Fans of The Young and the Restless

Great article. Although I may not agree with the progression of certain storylines and casting choices, it is nice to gain insight from the inside. Thank you.

Heidi
Heidi

Well, that was interesting. I believe they have often compromised the integrity of characters. Cane would never have let Lily suffer by thinking that the baby was his. That whole rewrite was the sloppiest thing I have ever seen and it was all done to bring back P3?Maria still stands by that horrible story? The scenes maybe shorter but the stories seem to drag on way past their prime. That chipmunk fiasco seemed never ending and this Sheila/no Sheila has lost my interest. I complain but all and all I still love the show. My main complaint is that we see some actors/characters 5x per week and others 1x and that seems unfair. Not everyone adores Billy Miller and at times it seems to be the Billy Miller show .

TEXAS woman
TEXAS woman

preity – we had 10 years of Nick and Sharon!! TPTB need to move forward with the show and not go backward! Nick and Sharon were NEVER a supercouple and never “romantic”! TOXIC yes!

MAB is her own worst enemy, she destroyed Nick and Phyllis to attempt to re-unite Romeo and Juliet, hey Maria!!!! Romeo and Juliet are DEAD!!! their story was never a romance, it was a TRAGEDY! just like SHICK!! dead and buried, please leave them in their casket.

amazed_at_this
amazed_at_this

I can’t believe that they read the message boards and listen to the fans but the fans still aren’t seeing a change. It’s one thing to be dictated by what the fans want, but it’s another thing when you’re reading the same things over and over and REFUSE to do anything about it. The way the fans feel about the show is reflected not only on the message boards but in the ratings as well. But I see that MAB and PR are not particularly invested in promoting romance with couples as they think and further stated that “But I think as much as those relationships, it’s the family and friend relationships that are just as crucial”. They put a lot more focus on the family/friend relationships/feuds than into romance which is, in my opinion, the basis of soaps – the romances, forbidden loves, affairs etc. Sure we like the business aspect of the show, the intrigue and so on, but it’s not what will take the show forward – it can’t.

amazed_at_this
amazed_at_this

I agree with TEXAS woman. While I am not a great fan of either pairing, Sharon and Nick were great in their day, but you have to admit that their marriage was less than solid. It was pretty empty and it seemed after a while when they continuously cheated on each other, that the love they had for each other in the beginning was not there anymore. It was pretty easy for either of them remain committed to the other.

Nick and Phyllis – I must admit I loved the way they came together. I loved that the writers took time to build on their relationship and they weren’t just shoved together. They showed immense passion when they were on opposite sides of the fence during the “Daniel on the run” storyline and that passion transcended and ignited when they both realized they were attracted to each other. This relationship has gone down the tubes now, thanks to MAB and her team and they aren’t even a couple worth rooting for anymore. The few times that Sharon and Nick were thrown together BOMBED in the ratings. What else is needed for these writers to get a clue that Nick and Sharon are old news?

preity
preity

I’m sorry I disagree I find Nick and Phyliss boring as hell. All they ever had between them is Sharon, she get’s both there motors running. Phyliss is better when she is the fiesty in the villian role, this stepford wife routine is so boring she should go back to her villanous ways at least then she would be interesting. Truthfully Nick is the one that is bringing down both women. But romeo and juliet story is the story that brings in the viewers. I believe they still have a lot of story to be told. If done properly, otherwise Sharon deserves way better.

Perry
Perry

Right on!

HEATHER
HEATHER

All I have to say is that Y&R is doomed! MAB is no William J Bell. That man was creative ,innovative and cared about the actors of the show as well as the fans. He wrote this show with intelligence and created storylines that involved romance, intrigue, social issues such as AIDS, bigotry, cancer, teen pregnancy, mental health and more. And most importantly he knew how to write for strong characters such as Drucilla Barber Winters and Neil Winters, it just goes to show you that it’s not necessary to have a black writer to created a well written story for afican-americans! W J Bell made that happen. Paul Rauch makes me utterly ill. He helped with contributing to the demise of Guiding Light back in 1997 that began with the firing of the late Michael Zaslow. He created the Reva clone and other bizzare SCI FI plots that don’t belong on a daytime lineup. MAB needs to listen to the fans! We are the ones that keep these show going by supporting them. Listen to the cast as well. Did Jess Walton and Eric Braeden almost leaving the canvas not teach you anything? If the remaining daytime shows don’t shape up they will meet the same fate as the proctor and gamble programs.

Whynot
Whynot

If MAB and PR continue the way that they have been they then Y&R is doomed. The reason that most of the viewers still tune in is because of the legacy left by Bill Bell he created such a rich tapestry of characters, families, friends, enemies and storyline and all it seems as if MAB has been doing is trading on those storylines and re-writing those storylines over and over and over and each times she re-creates that storyline she loses something in the process and the heart of the show beats a little more faintly.

Most of the fans from the show do not care if Victor and Nicki are EVER together again because we have seen it so many times and Victor Newman is one of the most abusive men that I have ever seen. He does not care anyone or anything and they have turned Nicki into someone who is mindless just to be able to tolerate him.

When the veiwers are asked about their favorites storylines or couples the ones that they name are not from the MAB era, they are from before that era and from the legacy that Bill Bell, and the other writers before MAB, created. MAB’s legacy is to re-use and milk Bill Bell’s storylines and to destroy every couple the fans have ever cared about because she has not been able to create a couple that the fans have cared about during her years on the show.

Renaee2006
Renaee2006

I agree, Mr. Bell would have never split sharon and nick up the way this writer is doing.HOW COULD YOU MAKE SHARON SEEM SLEEZY AND MAKE PHYLISS SEAM LIKE THE VOUNDERABLE ONE . Young and the restless should have left phyliss with jack . phyliss and nick just don’t fit. It is to fake. Sharon and nick will always be the number one couple under victor and nikki. I hate you new writers teasing us with nick and sharon .I guess it is the way phyliss stold nickwhile sharon was greiving the lost of cassie. Y ou have a lot of loyal fans that want to see their number one couple nick and sharon back together. THE NEW WRITERS WILL ONLY HAVE THEIR SELF TO BLAME FOR YOUNG AND THE RESTLESS LOOSING THE RATINGS AND THE SHOW GOING UNDER. I remember when i could not wait to see y&r now i can’t wait to see gh. Do you writers really expect for us to believe that nick love is not strong for sharon? I can not see no chemistry in phyliss and nick but all nick and sharon have to do is hug and you see all kind of chemistruy.. Put nick and sharon back together . Phyliss just seems like a third wheel.

Disgusted in Denver
Disgusted in Denver

This show has gone so far off the cliff that I don’t think they can save it now. What a crock that they read message boards and talk to the actors.

William Russ’ portrayal of Tucker was dead on and they got rid of him, and the “actor” (and I DO use that term loosely) they brought in to replace him is just a cold recycled attempt to make yet another Victor-like character.

The whole Scooby gang (Ryder/Daisy/Kevin/Jana/Amber) makes me switch the channel every time they are on.

However, it really doesn’t matter – TPTB are going to do what they want. You, as a viewer, have control though – switch off the set or make your comments known by writing them. But don’t write your comments on the message boards – posts are being deleted, and payoffs are probably being made to the moderators to make everything think everything is great in Y&R delusion land!!!

StephenisTuckerMAB
StephenisTuckerMAB

Are u 1of 30 or so people LOL that kept ruuning around all over the Message Boards calling Stephen names maybe that why your post our being Deleted its ok we the Stephen Nichold Fans still love u

isa2009
isa2009

Excellent post! ITA with everything you’ve said here. I’ve tuned out for several years and started to watch again off and on when they were suppose to reunite Shick. I’ve continued to tune out most often and once in a while watch now. Just like you, I’ve tuned out and watched other shows while the “Scooby gang” is on…lol It’s sad to see that this soap has gone down hill and it’s not what it use to be. Very sad in MO!!

melissa
melissa

I agree…the old Tucker was really really right on for the show, I LOVED that guy!!!! The need help with writing more romance, and Phyllis and Nick are so over-played, I am so sick of Phyllis Summer and Nick!! How about if when all this stuff hits the fan, a REAL ROMANCE BETWEEN TUCKER AND SHARON CAN DEVELOP?? That’s what I’m looking for, a REAL Princess wedding, and horse drawn carriage, NICK is not a good enough guy for Sharon…Once Tucker makes up with his mother, he can be a good guy.

HEATHER
HEATHER

Also I hope Drucilla is brought back soon. As for the Actress that plays Daisy I am not liking the character as all , but it’s nothing personal against the lovely youg lady that plays her. Ohh and before I go I just want to say that as much as I love the character of Shelia Carter, that storyline has been played out. With MAB writing it it will be a disaster. What will happen is that Shelia wont be played by the talented Kimberlin Brown it will be played by Melody Thomas Scott LOL. Tracey E Bregman is a wonderful actress she has proven that she can carry her own weight without the character of shelia carter involved. Okay I am done ranting LOL.

Perry
Perry

Yes, bring back Drucilla. The lady has some edge. Make the new Malcolm go away – he is a walking cliche.,

isa2009
isa2009

I find it sad that MAB said they read the message board, yet they don’t listen to the fans. What’s the sense in that? I disagree with those that say that Shick should be “dead”. Shick should have NEVER ended to prop up a sick couple such as Phick to begin with. Here’s some new flash….most fans don’t care to see a horny old woman sexing up a young man every second of the day and in every corner looking like a “dog in heat”. That is NOT romance, but simply lust and nothing more. You’ve dumb down Nick in order to make Phyllis look better….here’s a flash folks….Phyllis is a socio that will NEVER be BETTER. Don’t try to sell it to us, we find it sick and won’t buy it any more. I think if they were to put back Shick with their child Faith, this soap would be great once again. There are more Shick fans than there were ever Phicks and to keep dangling Shick in the fans face is silly. As for Victor and Nikki, they’ve lost the look of love due to his abuse over the years. Either pull them apart for good, or keep them together for the rest of their time on the show. MAB needs to do better than that!

Lex
Lex

The demise began when Kay Alden, Bill Bells right hand and protege was let go along with Jack Smith. They knew this show and had managed to keep it above where we are now. They knew the characters, they knew how to write character driven storylines. LML came in with a single vision of creating her own show, with her own couples. She destroyed Nick and Sharon to give us the cheapest couple that ever dis-graced TY&R. Whatever sexual chem Nick and Phyllis had was not enough to expound on and try to make into some sort of daytime couple and as a result it ruined Nick beyond measure. Phyllis should have been left with Jack or at the very least left to be the capable villain with a heart that she was moving towards under KA’s writing. Lauren has also been compromised and now she is nothing more than a prop to hold up Michael and the boring as hell Baldwin clan. MAB has no clue what she is doing and instead of correcting things that seriously hurt the show, she’s only focused on dong what doesn’t feel right to her. This show moves so fast now that beats aren’t played and the audience is treated as if we are all stupid. Go ahead and keep patting yourself on the back Maria, the late great WJB would not be pleased with any of this.

20+Year Fan
20+Year Fan

I agree 100% with your post. LML tried to turn Phick into something they could never be – a believable, viable, long-term couple that most fans could root for. Now MAB is still trying to hold onto this couple despite the fact that the many, many fans – both the volatile and stalwarts, prefer Shick over Phick. True romance is a staple of any soap and Phick just doesn’t have that crucial characteristic and is why many soap press do NOT consider Phick a true super couple. MAB says they read MBs and talk to the actors, but clearly she isn’t listening. Perhaps she and Paul need to go back and seriously study what the previous writing regimes from Bill Bell up until LML hijacked the show were doing because THEY obviously knew how to mix the ingredients for a successful show and MAB and her writing team clearly are still clueless about what is staring them in the face. So yeah, let lthem keep praising themselves while the ratings continue to drop compared to where they were a year or two ago.

Sadie
Sadie

I have watched Y&R from day one, but I have to say, if it wasn’t for Adam/Michael Muhney, I’m not sure I would still be watching. He is the best thing that’s every happened to Y&R. And pairing him with Sharon Case was genious! They are the best couple I’ve ever seen on Y&R; a true Supercouple.

I hope Michael stays with Y&R for years to come so I don’t have to give up my soap. Adam and Sharon are the only reason I tune in these days.

Whynot
Whynot

I liked Adam and Sharon at first and I find myself liking them once in awhile now. They are the first couple to come along in years that I could care about but the way their romance has been rushed for the sake of another storyline makes it harder to like them.

I do think that Adam is one of the few reasons to watch the show.

David Lightfoot
David Lightfoot

Michael, first of all, thank you for your e-mail on my reply to isa2009’s comments on Shick vs. Phick. Your reply came just as I started to type this. But please excuse me, for I am about to go into another rant mode. I am just here to set the record straight. First off, I can’t even believe the worlds that have come out of the words of Maria Arena Bell and Paul Rauch! This is the most laughable interview I’ve ever read and it makes me wonder what kind of stuff these people are doing. There are so many things wrong with that interview, I don’t know where to start. Ever since Maria Arena Bell came onto this show and Paul Rauch joined, this show has been worse than ever. While I’m not longing for Lynn Marie Latham to return to this show, (I at least hope she’s learned a few lessons on how to write a soap opera properly, but that may be wishful thinking) I must say Maria Arena Bell has had many chances to fix this mess, and she’s blown them all, AND have been given too many more chances to blow. In fact, she has ruined this show so badly, that I’ve come up with a new nickname for her, but I can’t reveal it out of fear that it may cause this post to fail modification. I’ve also spent more time at my volunteer work stint at a non-profit organization in hopes to avoid this show. I call tell you, I know what I’m missing. It’s pretty bad when all you care about on this show is which actors will be featured in the opening theme video. To begin with, if Bell is stating that she is writing character-driven stories, then I seriously don’t believe her at all. I see this show as a bigger plot-driven disaster than it was when Lynn Marie Latham was writing. We’ve seen Adam become an egomaniac as he first tried to make life miserable for both Nick and Victoria, destroy his own sight by taking disapproved medication, torture the hell out of Ashley, and become so antagonistic to his own family, that even Victor is disgusted enough to disown him. We’ve seen Ashley go nutsoid, suffer a miscarriage, and then crazily think that Sharon’s baby (who may or may not be dead) is hers in the psychatric ward; this baby switch can count as the Top 3 Most Bizarre Y&R Storylines. We’ve seen Sharon go just as psycho as Ashley when Nick went back to Phyllis, sleeping with anything that moves, becoming a kleptomaniac, and suffering a bigger meltdown than Mariah Carey did as a result of “Glitter.” We’ve seen Nick going back and forth between Phyllis and Sharon, something which Phyllis/Phick fans are beyond tired of seeing. Lily’s cancer storyline was basically a slap in the face to actual cancer survivors and their families. Need I go on? I could be typing until the end of this… Read more »

isa2009
isa2009

I’m sorry, am I missing something here, concerning your “response” to my post? I didn’t notice any reply to my post made.

pbannie
pbannie

I am so sorry I wasted my time reading half of your post. When I got to the part about Sharon Case being jealous of MS I realized I had wasted precious moments of my time reading drivel. And your saying ugly things about both Cane and Lily and dogging the church on top of that just made me rme. No wonder MB doesn’t listen to us posters when they go off on incoherent, unearthly rants such as yours.

Mandy
Mandy

This guy David’s obsessive hatred of Christel Khalil is crazy and scary. I hope she never meets him in a dark alley because this coward’s obsession is not reasonable and borders on insanity. He goes from message board to message board spewing hatred for a woman he doesn’t know all under the guise of pleasing Victoria Rowell. Another woman he probably has never met.

Doe
Doe

David… and your point is?….. You all are still watching the show like I am and yes I yell and scream at the TV when Y&R is on, but isn’t all of that and everyone’s complaints and vetting, part of the love and hate that all of us fans have have like our own mini soap? I don’t like many of the stories or characters, but I’m realistic with the fact that You and I don’t have any control what happens or with the writers either. I will still be watching tomorrow and after…….

isa2009
isa2009

I would rather watch a show that has story lines that amount to something rather than watch a show that looks like it’s intended for the purpose of soft porn material. YES, I’m talking about Phick/Phyllis. I know that most are upset that Phick is dead and has followed in the same fate of Shick in terms of lies and cheating, but that is what the writers intended when the did this to Phick. Shick isn’t any more “toxic” than Phick and IF that is what the writers intentions were when they mirror these two couples, then that was accomplished. As for MS not having the air time that some of her fans think she should have, that’s all hog wash. I’m quite thankful for little favors since all she does is SCREAM her lines, laugh through the whole thing and put her hands to her face/hair/mouth and annoy us fans. I don’t think MS needs a lot of air time, since Phyllis only reason for being on this show is to have sex 24/7 with her young stud. Sharon Case is a good actress, better than MS would or could ever be. I realize that the Sharon Case haters are not happy that MS hasn’t the same air time, but it’s obvious that SC has the bigger role since her character is the important one from the get go. I’d be totally fine if they got rid of MS, I have nothing against the actress, but I’m tired of watching her head flung from side to side, and her stuffing her face with donuts and eating like a pig on the show, I don’t watch for this, I watch for drama, action, love etc. Thanks.

Isla
Isla

Then stop watching so you can quit complaining.

isa2009
isa2009

Last time I checked this was a forum for comments and not to mention my freedom to write what I please, just like everyone else here. Thanks for coming out!! Maybe a better suggestion would be for you not to READ my post!!

David Lightfoot
David Lightfoot

isa2009, my first comment to you did not pass moderation, so here’s a more toned-down version for you. First off, I’m tired of hearing about how fabulous Shick is and the “sickness” of Phick! Nothing is further from the truth! For ten whole years, we, the viewers, have had to put up with Sharon and Nick’s endless parade of lies, cheating, finger-pointing accusations, Sharon’s “woe is me” act, and her lusting after another man when she doesn’t get the upper hand in the many fights with Nick and the Newman family. We all know that Sharon grew up on the wrong side of the tracks in near poverty with a struggling single mother, and the only reason why she went after Nick (when he was dating her best friend, no less) was because she knew his family was wealthy with lots of cash and privilege. That is not a woman of class, that’s what we dignified people call a golddigging tramp. Is it any wonder this woman has had animosity with Nikki the entire time Shick was married? And here’s a news flash for YOU… Sharon has cheated on Nick NUMEROUS TIMES during the ten years Sick was together! First there was Diego Gutteriez, whom Nick’s sister, Victoria was romantically interested in. Then there was Cameron Kiersten when Sharon just up and left her husband and kids for no apparent reason other than she “had to figure some things out.” Yeah right! She just left so she could have sex with some Playgirl model wannabe in a honky tonk bar in Denver! Then, there was the infamous mattress Macarena with Victoria’s HUSBAND (yes, I said HUSBAND), Brad, when the two were united in a hotel room in New York, followed by a heavy make-out session in a parking garage in which Nick caught them red-handed. We all knew Sharon wanted him from the get-go, the way she begged him to back out of marrying Victoria on their own wedding day. She even confessed her love for him over the intercom in the hearing of her second husband, Jack (whom she screwed one evening shortly after her dinner with Brad!) Oh, and let’s not forget her tounging Victor, which Nick also caught! And shall we get into the many men she had over at the ranch while sending Noah to all those sleepovers at Sam’s house, this so soon after Cassie died? Really, I’m surprised CPS didn’t intervene to take Cassie and Noah away. I worry that little Faith will suffer that very fate! And how does Sharon justify her actions? By telling everyone she was hurt, lonely, confused, and blaming everyone around her – Phyllis definitely included – for her actions and acting as “motivation” for her to cheat. Nothing is ever this woman’s fault, she takes no responsibility for her actions, and we Phyllis fans can see this crystal clear! If Sharon and Nick reunite with Faith in the family that you and all the Shicks want, it’s going… Read more »

isa2009
isa2009

LOL, I like that old saying. If you don’t have anything good to say, then don’t say anything at all. That would help in the first place so the mods won’t block your post to me or anyone else. Just a word of wisdom for the future if you care to harken! There was no need for you to write me a book in response, I get the point that you don’t like the show very much at this point in time. I also understand from your previous full page rant that you don’t like Shick and prefer Phick. I also understand that you like MS and not SC. That is all fine with me as each and everyone of us has an opinion and we are entitled to that! We see things differently and you won’t change my mind and from the looks of things, you won’t be changing the writers mind either. They must have seen something in Shick to have them hold on to this s/l with Sharon and Nick over the past few years, while Phick is married. I like SC and I enjoy Sharon on the show. I think the writers see that SC is an outstanding actress and that is the reason they have given her such a huge role, that requires so much air time. I understand that you don’t like that and that’s cool too. Doesn’t change things one iota though! There are many aspects of this show that I don’t like, but I realize that I have the option of watching or tuning out, which I have chosen to tune out for years. Shick and Phick marriage suffer from lies, cheating, deception etc, so for you to rant over Shick is senseless in MO. Phick is only SEX and nothing more. No love, no communication, no affection, no comparison to Shick that at least had a marriage that lasted for 10yrs regardless of the hurts and pains. That would explain why Nick wants that back and would leave Phyllis for it. Phick is made up of deception and not to mention a murderous socio that is obsessed over a man that she stole. Ain’t nothing entertaining about that for me. MS isn’t worth air time in MO, she screams her lines, bites her fingers, tosses her head from side to side, laughs through her scenes, don’t know what personal space is and nothing that is worth my time. I prefer Romeo and Juliet to Phickness porn, but thanks any how. As for Sharon being a porn star, I don’t see her jumping on any desks at the office and being called a “dog in heat” by anyone. I don’t see Sharon doing the nasty with anyone in every corner of office space and begging for a man to stay with her when he tells her he loves someone else. NO, that would be Phyllis, a low life, that is out of touch with reality, that is heartless and unkind, uncaring and… Read more »

webkitty
webkitty

As my grandfather would say: “What a bunch of hooey!”

k4lane
k4lane

Okay, I have read the interview – which I laughed out loud at in several areas and I have read everyones comments and I have to say that MAB and PR have their dellusional blinders firmly in place. The bells are tolling for the end of Y&R if these two remain at the helm!! Let me just first comment on their stellar casting achievements of the girl who plays Daisy – next to the Scooby-Doo gang one of the most annoying and useless characters to hit Y&R. I’ll throw the Ryder character into that comment too – and she just ‘popped’ as Daisy, MAB??!! REALLY??!! And DM as NuMalcolm – ‘the best audition they have seen in twenty years’??!! REALLY??!! He is and always will be Eddie Winslow – no matter how low he tries to make his voice!! And his character is about to become a grandfather??!! Are you flipping kidding me??!! He looks and acts like he is barely older than twenty-one and he is supposed to be Lily’s bio-dad??!!! Sorry MAB and PR those were a couple of the worst casting decisions that you have made to date. Old Vic and Strip-Nikki are a super couple of the highest romantic estemes??!! He wished her dead in a coffin just over a year ago and now she is giving lines like ‘Well the King does deserve to be in his castle’ in reference to him getting the ranch back from Ashley – again are you flipping kidding me!! Adam pushes his then step-mother down the stairs killing her unborn child and as he is mopping up the remains he is plotting his next move – that was pretty sick IMO!! On top of that we have a LEGALLY BLIND CHARACTER reading the normal small print of a magazine – the latest edition of RS, without assisitance and being the key to discovering all the bids in the Jabot auction by breaking in opening all the envelopes in a way as to be undetected and reading scanning and then emailing them to dear old dad Vic – WOW he has better sight than I do and I’m 20/20!! (insert sarcasm there – LOL!!) We got Sheila or someone associated with Sheila back again – YIPPEE!! Cause that’s not over done or anything. Crazy Patti/Mary-Jane/Doctor Emily Peterson was interesting at first but now it just feels like a different version of Sheila and I actually really like the actress who is playing those multi-characters and apparently TPTB do to since they keep reincarnating her into someone else who still – well looks just like her… And I just love how everyone who meets the latest version of Doc Emily freaks out for a second and then it’s all okay because it’s totally normal to see someone who looks exactly like someone else who happens to be evil and think nothing of it – LOL! Now let me comment on MAB’s (in her mind anyways) ultimate coupe of bringing back TB… Read more »

pbannie
pbannie

Love it and your humor. Hopefully your post will be read by MAB and PR and they will take heed.

Trish
Trish

Ok, I read the interview and I have to comment. I have never in my entire life heard such delusional crap. They are even crazier than the characters they write, namely Patty and Sheila. And if they think that what they’re giving the audience is their BEST then Y&R is even closer to extinction than I thought! First of all let’s start with some of the characters they have brought on since MAB has been at the helm: Jeffery Bardwell (Mr. Magoo) – what were they thinking? There was no need to bring TS back to play the twin brother. He was killed off for a reason. Then there’s the sarcastic unemotional Troll, Chloe who serves no purpose other than to annoy. I have to ask, when is she going to pay for all that she’s done? She was allowed to almost destroy two lives and what punishment did she get? NONE! Everything was swept under the rug as if it had never happened. Now we have Ryder and Daisy – two of the worst, most useless characters in daytime history. And we are to believe that the girl who play Daisy just “popped” in her casting. Popped out of what? A birthday cake! BUT their coup d’etat is DM as nu-Malcolm??? ARE YOU KIDDING ME???!!!! We’re expected to believe he is Lily’s biological father and soon-to-be grandfather to her and Cane’s children. HE IS NOT MALCOLM!!!!! He can’t even play the character as he was advertised. It’s like the great build-up to a new restaurant and you go expecting the chef’s best of steak and potatoes only to be served some dry gravy free piece of chicken. Seriously, he was touted as suave, smooth, charismatic and a ladies man – well I’m still waiting for him to show up. Then there was Karen who many thought blended well with the Winters family but what the MAB and her henchmen do? They chose Tyrone over her and sent her packing. Where is Tyrone now? That’s right! After sleeping with the father then the son they sent her packing too. YAY!! And don’t even get me started on hair model sr. (Heather) and hair model jr. (Abby)! Let’s talk super couples. The black knight and the stripper are a super couple of the highest romantic esteems? Seriously?!! Really?!! Well get out of here. OMG! Where have I been that I did not know this? Oh, I’m forgetting I DON’T LIVE IN DELUSIONALVILLE WITH MAB AND PR!! So let’s move on, shall we? The whole bringing TB as P3, MAB’s ultimate coupe, has got to be the biggest flop in daytime history. First of all, we were led to believe that Cane who had been portrayed as an upstanding young man who went looking for his family, found them and in the process the love of his life in Lily, was nothing but a liar. And for what? So MAB could bring back TB. He has so much botox in him it’s… Read more »

Heidi
Heidi

Bravo Trish! Bravo !!!!!

David Lightfoot
David Lightfoot

The black knight and the stripper are a super couple of the highest romantic esteems? Seriously?!! Really?!! Well get out of here. OMG! Where have I been that I did not know this? Oh, I’m forgetting I DON’T LIVE IN DELUSIONALVILLE WITH MAB AND PR!! So let’s move on, shall we?

If by this, you’re talking about Nick and Sharon, I just want you to know that I love you already. Thank you, thank you, thank you! I’m glad Texas Woman and I aren’t the only ones on here who don’t fall for this “Romeo and Juliet” nonsense, unlike their fans whom I have lots of names for, but will keep to myself for moderation purposes… LOL!

Donna
Donna

Hilarious post, Trish.

I was surprised by how semi-literate MAB appears to be in this article. Shouldn’t a “head writer” have a decent command of English, at the very least! I suppose that isn’t required if your last name is “Bell.”

Deb
Deb

Love your remarks! LOL!

Jill
Jill

If only they would quit shoving thier favorites in the fans face all the time and give equal viewing to all cast memebers, maybe, just maybe the show can be enjoyed by more viewers. Billly Abbot is on entirely tooooo much. As welll as Victor Newman. And now you are trying to showcast the filler character Chloe everyday as if she matters.

Please, please get a clue and fast. Adam is just, well sickening. Aren’t the FANS the ones given you all a paycheck. Well quit trying to make fans like what you want. It is not working. You can fudge numbers all you want but the truth will knock in the face someday.

What they did to Lily’s character was down right low down and dirty. Yeah, I said it, it needed to be said. COWARDS! of the lowest of caliber.

Get rid of Paul Rauch, Marie Bell and Hogie Scheffer, and then maybe the show can be saved.

Heidi
Heidi

ICAM! Do we really need to see Billy Abbott everday and involved in every story? I understand that he is the darling of MAB and company but their promotion of him should not push other characters/actors to 5minutes and one day per week.

IA that the sterlization of Lily was heavyhanded. Give her cancer and remove an ovary and make her odds of getting pregnant next to nil so that her eventual pregnancy would be a miracle but why render a 22 year old barren ?

LMac
LMac

and sadly the actress is pregnant in real life, which makes the whole sl dumb, you can SEE her hair sticking out of those God awful uh hats. And for someone that is only 22, Lily has lived at least 10 different lives. Agian more crimes agianst woman who BTW are your veiwers

Jennifer
Jennifer

Thanks Michael for the interview, but I would have to agree with others their proclamations sounded delusional. I do think that they DO need to listen to the feedback from their viewers. Obviously viewers have favorites but underneath that we all seem to have a common thread — we are tired of the recycled and we are looking for some new life to breathed into Y&R along with other soaps. Y&R seems to be missing the love in the afternoon part along with a good portion of adventure, humor and just plain old good storytelling! Y&R needs balance. Also, Victor is not the end all be all… Y&R was quite enjoyable when there was no Victor except for the Scooby Doo Gang. If Y&R keeps trying to hold on the past, I fear there will not be a future and that would be a terrible thing!

pbannie
pbannie

Excellent post, I really wish they would listen to your commom sense. Good writing for all Characters, equal screentime and balance please!

Ashang
Ashang

Bravo to your post, k4lane & Trish… MAB & PR are unbelievable.

LMac
LMac

I’m new to your site, but I really wanted to see what crap these 2 had to say. I’ve been a veiwer of Y&R for well since the begining, and I’m disappointed in the state OF ALL THE SOAPS right now. Everyone pretty much agrees that this particular mode, or phase the soaps are in currently will ensure that soaps will be gone in 2-4 yrs at best. Most of the coroperate heads seem to believe that people only want reality shows or God forbid game shows. I realize that part of this is due to the cost of the soaps, loss of veiwers and to some extent car companies no longer spending big $$$$$$ on ads. I’ve been reporting on soaps from my early days in radio to now. Not only did I report on the soaps I got to meet and interview several soap stars that are friends to this day….even they are disapointed in the state of soaps today. I see Y&R repeating the same stories, rewriting history on a whim, and how they Y&R are treating the female characters are just horrible. All the women are dumbed down, and act as if they are NOTHING without a man. Plus where is the ROMANCE? All this baby kidnapping, bed hopping, etc are not enjoyable to watch at all. It’s bad enough that society treats women like crap, but we have to watch it one our soaps which are SUPPOSED to be an escape. These 2 knuckleheads don’t have a clue as to what their viewers what, and they act like they don’t care….and considering who MAB’s father in law was/is I’m sure Bill Bell is rolling in his grave. All of this becomes glaringly obvious when they show those holiday episodes. And they don’t want to listen to the FOCUS groups, which means they don’t give a rat’s azz what the veiwers think either. It’s really sad for those of us that watched with our mothers, grandmothers etc. And it’s is becoming clearer eachand everyday that NONE of our opinions EVEN MATTER…..Still good interview, at least now we KNOW they don’t care about the fans….so why watch?

SEAN
SEAN

I find this interview to be a complete joke and a bad one at that MAB/PR are a dream team but only if the dream is a nightmare the s/l are terrible and the characters that they are pushing on the viewers are just as bad…Daisy is not the hit she makes her out to be….ppl are getting tired of the scoby gang….along with a blind man that can scale walls put on a dress to scare a woman out of her mind causing said woman to miscarry among his other crimes….then have said woman to continue to think she is still pregnant and give birth..HUH….and the woman never suspect that she did not give birth….seriously….the once great love story between Nikki/Vicktor was ruined when he told her he wished that she was dead instead of his newest wife of the minute Sabrina by having Nikki go back to him after the way he treated her on top of David Chow makes her look (fill in the blank)……then we have the horrific rewrite of P3 is alive even JC said that story was not nesscary….and do not get me started on the Lily ovarian cancer s/l this is the story that made me stop watching……it was not well written or researched and why would they give a diesase that is more common to older women to a 22 year old then proceed to give her a full hysterectomy……the last child of colour to be born on the show how many years ago…..and they do that! The whole Winters family have been writen as extras….why can’t Niel have his own company……and why do they write Lily to be so submissive…..I will never understand how a woman with a super model for a mother who grew up in Paris going with her mom to her fashion shows and photo shots needed someone like Chole to teach her how to be a model……what about Sharon look at how she is written or Nick or who ever he is either sleeping with or married too….then there is Billy no matter if you like him or hate him you got to wonder why some characters can’t get one s/l but he can get at least four…..and if they are reading the mbs they would know that in fact on one of the boards they were asking for MAB/HS to be fired

selma
selma

In response much later than others I can’t wait to see the magic of writing transform the fabulous Michael Muhney into the character he was meant to be when he first introduced himself to two very jealous siblings. Can’t wait for Sharon to come to his assistance and turn Genoa City on it’s self serving crown. Love your interviews Michael. I choose to look for love in the most unusual and well concealed places. Wonderful acting!! I challenge these terrific writers to keep me watching.

Deb
Deb

What I truly hate is that Bill Bell is no doubt rolling over in his grave. Paul Rauch has a history not unlike any other Nazi General. His reputation is not one you’d expect to be accepted by Y&R. Maybe he’s a long time friend of Maria’s father. He’s old enough to be. MAB is a liar, she does not care about the fans. If she did, DRU would have been back long before Lily’s babies were born. Writing sucks, and certain cast members should be gone. I’m sick to death of Adam. Kill him off, and bring his mama back. Tucker and his toupee’ are sickening. Hell, have him shave his head. It would be more believable. No wonder Bold and Beautiful won for best soap. Y& R is now Doom & Gloom. Depressing!

Emo
Emo

I really think so too=P I have been surfing around the internet for a while today, and its kinda hard to find something interesting to read on blogs:P Maybe its because there are too much of those around =) But this place actually keeps catching my attention. Great stories, and kawai design ^__^. Ill be sure to give it more visits now =)

Judy malatesta
Judy malatesta

I have been watching Yand R since the day it started, My son was born the day before so I watched it starting then. I just have to write, are you all crazy. This story line with Sharon going back to Adam is stupid and nuts, Never in a million years would that ever happen. We were all so happy seeing Sharon and Nick finding their way back together as Casseys gift, that is what ALL the fans want. Your making Sharon out to be a nut case and that is not where we want to see her go. I am hoping that this is all a plan of Sharon’s to secretly bring Adams down and hurt him as much as she and Nick were hurt. In fact that should be your storyline… that this is all a well engineered plan of Sharons to make Adam pay for all the evil he has done and how evil he is. This way Nick will understand why she did what she did and welcome her back with all the love that two people could ever have with each other. There are a lot of story lines that are interesting and exciting and can be developed into a even greater show, just let Sharon and Nick be happy. I am so upset I don’t even taped the show when I work now as the story lines are just dumb. Do you think that the fans are stupid? Phyllis is a nut tired to kill Chris now she is so wonderful. I never liked her with Nick. She is mean and shelfish. There is nothing wrong with stories about happy people, Now that their are a lot of children around there is more that could be written about them that could give you the so called excitement you think we need. Also I think that you should have not had Nicki sleep with the jurk as that was part of the plan to destroy Victor, why would you stop them from being together. You have really messed up a great soap and you should all be ashamed of yourselves. I could write a better storyline then you. I am so sad your making me not care for this wonderful show anymore, Shame on you all.

Wendy McGrattan
Wendy McGrattan

I have been watching the Young and Restless with my mother and father for years now and I am so disappointed with the way the story lines are going now. I have really noticed a big difference from the old writers to the new writers. Big mistake on letting Cane go from the young and restless – the majority of your fans tuned in because of Cane. I have not watched the show since he left. Story line did not even make sense. It sickened people. Lily finally gets over cancer and what do you do? Kill off her husband? Good bye young and restless after watching the show since 1975. It used to be the best soap ever.

mmc
mmc

After ATWT went off I’ve tried watching other soaps….i tried Y&R .i watched it once in awhile off and on but even off and on is too much.it’s horrible….even B&B has gotten better….solution? Make B&B an hour and cut Y&R to 1/2.OR bring back my beloved ATWT and be done with all the rest!

General Hospital

GH’s Roger Howarth Chats On Shifting From Franco To Drew & The Stunning Story Twist

In one of the most intriguing plots of 2019, General Hospital’s Franco Baldwin was morphed into Navy SEAL Andrew Cain following a harrowing mind-mapping procedure. In all went down thanks to Shiloh (Coby Ryan McLaughlin) and Dr, Cabot (Time Winters), taking the life and memories of Drew (Billy Miller) from his flash drive and transferring them into Franco’s brain, wiping out his past and his present.  That followed the tearjerker moment, when Franco sacrificed himself to free his kidnapped stepson, Cameron (William Lipton) from the twisted procedure; that could have left the teenager with Drew’s memories or even in a vegetative state.

The recipient of this storyline – and who would be taking on another persona in his storied daytime drama career – is none other than Roger Howarth.  The Daytime Emmy- winning actor is no stranger to changing fictional identities on GH.  Howarth, played OLTL’s Todd Manning over in Port Charles, later switching to Franco (previously played by James Franco) following the legal dispute between ABC and Prospect Park.

Last week, viewers got their first glimpse of Howarth taking on the traits of Drew circa 2012, and in short order, it has caused emotional upheaval for Franco’s wife, Elizabeth (Rebecca Herbst), Drew himself, Jason (Steve Burton), and Kim (Tamara Braun)… and that’s just for starters.

Michael Fairman TV chatted with Roger as he started his journey transforming his work from playing Franco to Drew and the challenges it presents, plus the ripple effect the change will have on the canvas for many of the characters.  In addition for One Life to Live fans, Roger chats about his appreciation for his time on that iconic series in a candid, self-effacing, and special conversation.  Here’s what Howarth shared:

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When you were told that they were going to put Drew’s memories into Franco, what was your initial reaction to learning that news?  Did you think it was a great twist?

ROGER:  Yeah, I think it’s a great idea.  I really do.  Good story needs a lot of things, and this checks a lot of the boxes.  It brings people together; it provides obstacles.  There are a lot of places this could lead to.  I just think it’s really smart and interesting.  I look forward to it a lot, and I can already tell by what I have shot thus far that it’s going to be fun.

If this story is written well, what has happened to Franco will be life-altering and crucial to so many people’s lives in Port Charles.

ROGER:  What I like about it, and this isn’t lip service, is that it’s a great story because it affects a lot of people.  Those are the good stories.  Elizabeth has got to deal with this, the boys have to deal with this, Scotty’s (Kin Shriner) got to deal with it, Jason is confused by this information, and now this person in interacting with Drew, and Kim, and Shiloh.  All of the sudden, the canvas is interacting completely differently.  So, I think the writers are having fun with this as well.

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Then, there is also the character of Kim played by Tamara Braun, who Drew shares a past with.  It will be interesting to see how that relationship plays out, we already witnessed Franco’s Drew instantly smitten and attracted to her.

ROGER:  Yes, the person in this body is running under a certain set of assumptions that no one else shares.  So, yes, it’s confusing to everybody, I am sure, including Kim.

Do you see Franco eventually flipping back and forth, and having personality traits of both he and Drew?

ROGER:  No.  One hundred percent, no, and that provides a real obstacle with a couple like Franco and Elizabeth.  They are always looking for obstacles to prove to the audience that these two people really do care about one another, and that’s the purpose of a story like this.  I’m guessing and hoping that it will provide the character of Elizabeth with a particular objective because it would be nice to see Becky be able to play all of those beats.

Right, and to have to fight for something…

ROGER:  Yes, it’s very tragic.  This is a character that is accustomed to tragedy, and to see Becky play the role of Elizabeth dusting herself off, trying to get what she wants is going to be really cool.

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The tragic twist had Franco saving Cameron from winding up with Drew’s memories and being the vessel for Shiloh to use.  What did you think about how Franco sacrificed himself in order to protect Elizabeth’s son?  It was quite heroic.

ROGER:  I think the other beautiful part of this is that this was motivated by love.  I don’t see it as heroic.  I think as an actor, you’re always looking for the heart of the story, and the writers made it really simple.  He does this because he loves this kid.  Yeah, they’ve had their ups and downs, and they are struggling to figure out how they can get along, and they have a lot of things that they feel about one another, but push actually did come to shove, and I think that the character of Cameron is going to be deeply affected by that.

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This now puts Franco deep within Shiloh’s storyline and past with Drew, because Shiloh desperately wants a key piece of information locked in Drew’s memories.  So, in theory, this kind of ranks among one of the better stories you’ve probably ever gotten to tell in your daytime career.  Everyone is hoping that it lives up to its expectations in the execution of it on-air.

ROGER:  It is certainly a high concept story.  It’s asking a lot of the audience.  So far, we’re all in.  It’s a good cast.  I work with really good actors, so I’m not worried.  It is asking the audience to suspend disbelief for sure.  The good stories do.  I think Erika Slezak (Viki) on One Life to Live, getting to play Dissociative Identity Disorder as Niki and Viki that was a large ask.  She never blinked.  She did everything that was asked.  I’m trying to follow her example.

Exactly, and she played more characters.  She had more alters after that.

ROGER:  (Laughs)  Yeah!  She’s better at this than I am.  I’m having trouble with the one. (Laughs)

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What do you think about how Scott and Franco’s relationship will be affected, now that he is in essence “Drew”?

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ROGER:  There’s no part of that relationship that hasn’t changed because there is no Franco.  Franco is not around … Franco has left the building.

He is a completely new person for all intent and purposes.

ROGER:  For sure.  This soldier doesn’t appreciate being called by somebody else’s name.  He is not compassionate to the people who mistake him for this somewhat tortured art therapist that he no longer is.

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What is also interesting is that this should put you right into conflict and scenes with Steve Burton, because now you are essentially playing Jason’s twin.

ROGER:  Yes.  For me, as an actor, to get a chance to work with Steve, and to play a like-minded person, is intimidating frankly, but it’s exciting.

Also, the audience knows how Franco and Jason are such enemies, and now, he is really in his mind his twin.  

ROGER:  Yeah, Franco sees in many shades of gray and other colors, and from what I can tell, Franco as Drew sees the world much simpler.  He thinks more clearly, he finishes his sentences, he thinks before he speaks, he knows what he is going to say.  His point of view does not waiver.  He is determined.

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That’s got to be so exciting for you to get to play after all of Franco’s psychological baggage and issues.

ROGER:  I’ve got to say, it’s been a bit of a challenge for me to play someone with a different set of speech patterns and who stands differently.  Because Drew thinks and feels differently about everything; his body is the same, but his body is behaving differently, and it speaks differently, and he thinks at a different tempo.  They’ve been very patient on set giving me chances to do it badly, so far. (Laughs)  It’s not uncommon for me to get halfway through a scene and to have to start over.   I am essentially figuring it out as we go along.   I am very appreciative of the fact that they have been giving me a few extra takes to try and figure out how this guy stands.  He relates to people with a different set of space and time.  It’s cool.  It’s a cool set of puzzles.  It’s been really fun.  I’m a lucky guy.

When I first learned of the story twist, I was like, “Oh! Roger will be great in this.”  

ROGER:  I don’t know, man.  I could be stinking it up pretty badly. (Laughs)  I think there’s a trap as an actor who has been asked to play twins, and the trap is that this guy is only acting the way that he acts.  The trap is frankly to act too much because the audience is being told that he is a different person.  If I go too far to try to demonstrate that he is a different person, then it slips into parody or overacting.  Over the years, I have definitely been guilty of overacting, so, I’m a little frightened of it. (Laughs)  I don’t like the way it feels.  I know how it feels to go too far.  I have been getting notes like, “You could pull it back a little bit.”  (Laughs)  It’s pretty funny.

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In the past, I have heard you say you’d rather go to work and feel unsettled about what you are asked to play.  Does that still hold true?

ROGER:  For sure!  I’d rather go to work and leave my job knowing that it was terrible and that I get to come back the next day and make it a little better.  The best thing about daytime is how much it will stretch you and pull you and ask as much of it as you are willing to put in.

Now speaking of Franco, what did you think about the wedding reception on the yacht with Elizabeth?  Did you think that was a nice payoff for Friz fans? 

ROGER:  Yes, for sure.  I thought it was a really sweet culmination to a sweet story about these two people finding one another.  I’m glad they incorporated a large part of the cast.  It was a really good idea.

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What did you think of how all of Elizabeth’s boys (Cameron, Aiden and Jake) performed a song for Franco and their mom at the reception, and how Franco relates to all of them?

ROGER:  I think it was a really important story point, and it was nice, and it was easy to play.  They’re really good kids, and they’re also terrific people.

Franco really stepped up as a stepdad to Aiden, who had been bullied at school.  I loved the cooking scene, where Franco was baking with Aiden.  What do you think about their relationship?  I love that Franco is being very understanding.

ROGER:  I think he’s trying to be understanding.  I don’t think he’s really great at it.   I think he’s a human being just trying to figure out how to make the best use of his time here, just like the rest of us.

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General Hospital needed a big jolt with an umbrella story like this that turns the canvas a bit upside down.  How does it feel to be at the epicenter of it?

ROGER:   I really don’t think I’m the center of the story.  I’m not even kidding.  The story is that this piece of information is worn on the shoulders of Franco, but the people who are most effected by that piece of information are Kim and Elizabeth.

It will be interesting to see what the reaction is like from the GH audience.  You’re not on social media.  Will you check out what they are saying … or the feedback?

ROGER:  I’m not on social media.  But, I believe there is a guy whose job it is to track that initial criticism/support.  I think it is kind of cool that we will get real-time reviews, you know what I mean?  I actually thought about that because with the character of Franco, it took us a while to figure out who the guy was.  There was a lot of blonde hair and some missed cues, and we weren’t sure which relationship would be featured, whether it would be Franco and Ava (Maura West), or whether he would wind up in Carly’s (Laura Wright) arena again.  It took a while to figure out the best way to put that guy in the canvas, and I imagine that it will happen again.  I didn’t dye my hair for this, but I did cut it. (Laughs)

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How was working with Billy Miller in this storyline twist?  Were you there on his last day on set?

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ROGER:  Yes, I worked with Billy not on his last day, but on his last show.  He was remarkable with dignity and with class, and I wish him all the best.  He did a great job.  He is a good actor.  I’m sure he will find somewhere to go be an actor.

Throughout your soap career, has there been a story that you initially pooh-poohed, but when you did it, you thought, “Oh, this is great!”

ROGER:   There was a story when Carly and Franco were together, and they wrote a story where Franco gave Carly a gift that wound up being a camera…

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The evil-eye necklace!

ROGER:  Yes, this small seeing rye.  I just thought, every time Franco would come in and say something like, “Oh, you’re wearing the necklace.  It’s so beautiful,” while we were doing it, I was like, “Wow.  The audience is really going to hate this.” (Laughs)  However, my real-time Twitter is the subway, and while it was airing, I got on the train and sat next to this really amazing fan, who just told me how much she loved that story, and I was honestly surprised and pleased.  I am often wrong, and it doesn’t surprise me now when I am wrong  … because I was really wrong then.

You mentioned Franco with Ava which was a potential pairing. I think you and Maura West have always had great chemistry together on screen.

ROGER:  Yes, she’s a pretty great actor.  She’s great with everybody.

She is.  You knew Maura’s work first when she was at As the World Turns, while you were there, also?

ROGER:  I didn’t know her well at As the World Turns, but I knew who she was.  She’s a hard worker, and Jack (Michael Park) and Carly always had a lot to do.  She was pretty focused when she was there, but I spoke to her.  I didn’t feel like I got to know her until I got to work with her on GH.

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Last month on July 15th would have been the 51st anniversary of One Life to Live. I saw a lot of people commenting and remembering the show on social media that day. I put together four photos on a post I made about that show featuring some of the remarkable actors who were a part of it.  From there, I received hundreds of comments of how people were just missing the series, the characters, and actors they loved in it, including you.  When you look at the list of people from yourself to Judith Light, to Robin Strasser, Bob Woods, and of course Erika Slezak – it’s such an unbelievably talented group who spent time in Llanview.  Do you ever think about what an incredible experience that was, and how the fans still miss that show so much?

ROGER:  All the time.  I mean, I’m a lucky guy.  I think it really was a special building to work in, and the people who we are talking about: Erika (Viki), Bob (Bo), Robin (Dorian), and Phil Carey (Asa), and Clint Richie (Clint), and John Loprieno (Cord), the people who made it possible for me to work there set an environment and a tone that made it a really special place.  It was a really good cast, like you said, and there was a lot of opportunity for them to write a really cool story.  I wasn’t a part of the AIDS quilt storyline, but to realize that they told a story like that and incorporated that into our show was wonderful.

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Such an amazing story and One Life was telling socially relevant and important issues of our time, always.

ROGER:  I can’t say for certain, but I do believe that the original concept of the Todd, Marty (Susan Haskell), and Powell (Sean Moynihan) storyline was kind of supposed to be initially an effort to bring awareness to a horrible, violent crime.  That was a long time before the #MeToo movement.  I think it was a show where the writers had a social conscious as well and really brought awareness to a lot of different things.  That’s a great legacy and something that show should be very proud of.

Once the character of  Todd Manning took off on One Life, and how they found ways to redeem him, and how it spoke to how much the network, the show, and the audience responded to your performances, did you ever feel you had a bit of a safety net as an actor, or were you like, “I’m going to be fired tomorrow?”

ROGER:  This is truth: I am so grateful to have a job, and I don’t take anything for granted.  I don’t think anybody is safe in this business.  I just don’t.  I just don’t think anybody gets to say that they’ve arrived.  I just did a roundtable, and I shared this with people who have a lot more clout and opportunity than I do – that actors are by nature, the good ones, are aware that every day that you get to go to work is a privilege, and don’t waste it.

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In soaps, for the most part, when someone is stepping into someone else’s role as a recast, or actor who played one role is changing to another, there seems to be this reactionary period of adjustment, and then, there is acceptance from the audience over time … unless you really stink it up  … as you say. (Laughs)

ROGER:  Here’s the thing, and this is why I think this is such a great idea, it’s not about me playing this part, it’s about how Elizabeth, who has been on this show for twenty-something years gets to react to it, and giving her the ball.  It’s flashy that Franco is Drew, but it is really and Elizabeth/Kim story.  I may be the one overacting and stinking it up, but it’s theirs. Do you know what I mean?  It’s not my story.

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What do you want to say to the fans about this new “role” you are taking on at General Hospital?

ROGER:  I want to say that I really do appreciate the fans.  Here is the thing, they’re down for everything.  I hope they’re down for this.  It’s a big ask, but I really hope that they like it.

So, what do you think of Roger as Andrew Cain thus far and how the storyline is beginning to take shape?  Are you excited to see how Franco becoming Drew (through the mind-mapping procedure) shakes up the canvas? Do you hope Drew returns to be Franco sooner than later? Share your thoughts and theories via the comment section below.

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Days Of Our Lives

DAYS Stacy Haiduk and Eric Martsolf Talk Kristen & Brady’s Twisted Relationship : The Mask, The Deception, The Sex

Last week on Days of our Lives, Kristen (Stacy Haiduk) was able to get the man she craves in between the sheets.  So, just how did that happen when Brady Black (Eric Martsolf) had no idea she was alive?  Well … he still doesn’t, really.  You see, Kristen returned to Salem disguised as another ex flame of Brady’s, Nicole Walker (who everyone believed died in the warehouse explosion).  And Kristen has been parading around town donning an incredible likeness of Nicole’s face – via a prosthetic mask – and some other tricks to sound and look just like her!

Kristen’s goal is to infiltrate Salem, remind Brady of the love and passion they shared, take over DiMera Enterprises, and who knows what else!  And everyone who stands in her way, better watch out as we have seen! We are speaking to you (the late) Ted, and (once kidnapped) Kate, et al.

Fans of the NBC daytime drama series have followed the tortured relationship between Kristen and Brady for years and through many plots; Kristen was first played and brought to life by Eileen Davidson, and for well over a year now by Stacy Haiduk.  Not only has Haiduk reprised the role of a frustrated, vengeful Kristen, she is also playing at times multiple roles: the wacky and often misunderstood, Susan Banks, Kristen playing Susan, or Kristen pretending to be Sister Mary Moira.

As for Daytime Emmy winner, Eric Martsolf, this latest story arc puts him front and center as viewers watch to see if what Brady senses, and the clues, and the feelings he is having, bring him to the conclusion that he has been duped by Kristen, and that her horrendous scheme – pretending to be Nicole (Arianne Zucker), and dumping Nicole’s longtime love Eric (Greg Vaughan) to be with him have a result that is unexpected or catastrophic!

Michael Fairman TV sat down with Stacy and Eric for this conversation about: all the plot twists, and playing the drama and the humor of the situations they find themselves in as actors in a wild story that only head writer Ron Carlivati could pen and keep the audience on the edge of their seats in the process. Check out this oh-so-fun, direct, and enlightening chat with two of DAYS most shining stars.

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Eric, what has it been like working in this part of your storyline; where there’s the character of Kristen in its many forms: Arianne Zucker playing “Nicole” (but it’s really Kristen), Kristen as Susan, and the real Kristen, etc?

ERIC:  It’s been a nightmare Michael.  (Laughs)  I don’t know who I’m sleeping with anymore.  I’m at the point where I go home at night, and I just tug on my wife’s cheek just to make sure that she is not my ex-girlfriend from high school.

When you first heard of this storyline, and that it was going to facilitate how Arianne was going to come back to the show… and that it was supposed to be Kristen in a Nicole Walker prosthetic mask with a voice alternator, what went through your mind?

ERIC:  I think in the back of Ron’s Carlivati’s (head writer, DAYS) mind, he was thinking to himself, “This dude started his soap career on Passions, he’s okay with this kind of thing,” and honestly, nothing surprises me anymore.  When you’re thrown into that supernatural, crazy reality, doesn’t-live-here sort of atmosphere for you first soap gig, you don’t sweat a mask and a voice modulator.  That’s just par for the course.  My biggest problem was the body thing … that Brady is not able to distinguish one body from the other, because I would as Eric.  My God, I know every inch of my wife’s body.  So, it’s difficult to get my head around that, but at the same time, I’m going with the whole “love is blind” thing here. (Laughs)

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(Laughs) I was going just going to say that Brady would absolutely know Kristen’s body from how passionate their relationship has been in the past, as well, he would Nicole’s body from his relationship with her.

ERIC:  Since Kristen did finally just succeed – let’s use the word in “seducing” him, and using her wonderful feminine wiles as only Kristen has to get Brady in to bed, there was also another twist.  What plays after that is that he notices the tattoo that’s been removed, and she plays it off as scarring from the fire.  What’s going through his mind as he is making love to Nicole is a “Kristen train”.  He can’t get Kristen out of his mind, and the guilt that he feels about that is horrendous.

Right! Brady is thinking: “Why am I feeling this when I am supposed to be with Nicole!?”

ERIC:  Right!  Brady has been waiting for a relationship for God knows how many years now – at least a successful one.  He is so eager to have this work, even though he has been concerned about how Eric (Greg Vaughan) would feel about this.  In Brady’s mind, Eric is done with Nicole.  He’s good.  He loves Sarah (Linsey Godfrey).  This is fair game.  Brady and Nicole have always been close … they’ve been close before … so, for him, it’s, why not give it a fair try?   However, he finds himself now thinking about another woman the whole time.  That’s rough.

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Do you think in the back of his mind, that this whole time, he possibly knew that “Nicole” was Kristen?

ERIC:  Well, you just have to wait.  There will be a reveal eventually, obviously, but until then, let the games play on.

So, once Brady and “Nicole” have sex, he keeps thinking about Kristen?

ERIC:  Constantly!  She just plagues his mind.  I think he’s realizing that his affection for Kristen is anything but dead and is very alive, and I think this is Kristen’s master plan from the very beginning.  She knows that she pervades his soul, and once she does reveal herself, I would guess he would probably be surprised, maybe a little angry, but in the end … you can’t deny what your heart and your body wants, right?

One of my favorite recent scenes had Brady half-naked and Kristen as Susan getting into his room, because she was looking for the MIA Nicole mask she so desperately needed.  She finds herself gawking and lusting after Brady under her disguise, and he tries to remove himself from the situation and says, “Susan, I’m going to get in the shower…”

ERIC:  Yeah! And, “It’s not going to happen, baby.”

What was that like doing that scene?

STACY:  I loved it!  I thought Eric was brilliant in it.  I watched it, and I thought, “Oh, my God!”  (Laughs) It is one of my all-time favorite scenes.

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ERIC:  Kristen is a tiger.

STACY:  She is a tiger.  She’s got a goal, and she is going to go after that.  She has obstacles that are going to come in-between her goal, but she will go after whatever she wants.

When Stacy comes in to Brady’s room as Susan, were you not laughing?

ERIC: No!  I thought she was hot. (Laughs)

STACY:  He did … he loved it.  You liked me, didn’t you baby? (Laughs)

ERIC:  I don’t think anybody can deny that Stacy Haiduk’s portrayal of Susan Banks is ridiculously good.  Everything from her delivery … to her facial expressions.  I think it is amazing.  I mean, it is corny, and it is fun, and soaps need characters like that once in a while to lighten the load of the heavy dialogue and the drama.  It’s a welcomed addition.  So, I love playing scenes with Susan.

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Eric, you always have been able play the straight-man so well in comedic scenes with impeccable timing,

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STACY:  You’re brilliant, Eric.

ERIC:  You guys are being very nice to me.

STACY:  You are.  I remember on the day how much fun we had, but then, seeing it back and the crap that I was giving you, and just the stuff you were giving back was so beautiful, and innocent, and so alive.  It was so funny.

Does Kristen think that now that she finally got Brady into bed that she won … that she got what she wanted … even if she had to don a “Nicole” mask to do it?

STACY:  Well, no, because she still can’t be really Kristen.  I think she is grateful that she gets to be with him.  That’s one of her biggest goals: to be with Brady and she wants to have him fall back in love with her again.  But for her, now it’s all about, “How do I reveal myself so that he doesn’t get scared away?”  That’s the toughest part for her.  Kristen’s love is so deep that it goes beyond this mask.  So, how is it going to be when he sees her?   Is he going to freak out?  What’s going to happen?

ERIC:  Did you think Kristen would be a little pissed off and think, “Oh my God.  He did go for Nicole?”

STACY:  Yes!  I do, because she’s like, “Finally, I got him!  But wait a minute … did I get him because I was Nicole … or because I was Kristen?”  As Kristen, she always believes there is something deeper between them and a deep connection.  That remains a driving force to her.

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ERIC:  That’s why I love these characters so much, because of you and the history of Kristen with Brady.  She’s always wanted him as much as he has wanted her.  She’s always wanted to be loved.

STACY:  Yes … and very much so.

ERIC:  Kristen had always wanted to be a part of the DiMera Empire, just as Brady has always wanted to be a part of the Kiriakis Empire, and they’ve always wanted love.  They’ve never had it.  They believe in the back of their minds that anything is attainable.  So, I can see why Kristen would just forgo the Nicole disguise and just go, “He wants me.”

STACY:  Kristen wants to believe that Brady knows it.  She says to herself, “He knows it’s me inside and behind the mask.  When he finds out, he will fall back in love with me.”

Now that she actually had sex with Brady, wouldn’t that make Kristen even more insatiable to be with him? Like, “I’ve got to have him!?”

STACY:  The fear is still .. what happens she takes this mask off?  She always says, “I’ll reveal myself, but I have to do it slowly when it is the right time.”  I think there is that built up frustration now for her, absolutely!

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Arianne Zucker really has Stacy’s mannerisms down as Kristen.  It really comes into in scenes where “Nicole” goes off on someone or loses her temper.  Eric, you have worked with Arianne for years on this show.  What do you think about her performances in this storyline?

ERIC:  I have worked with Ari over the years, and I have enjoyed it a lot.  Ari did do her homework.  She did study Stacy’s tape, and she watched her mannerisms, and she took it very seriously.  I know that because she is a hard worker, as much as a goofball as she is, she does work hard, and she wanted it to be good.  I think my favorite parts were the Kristen meltdowns.  You have to understand though; Stacy and Ari get along very well!  They’re kind of two peas in a pod.  So, it wasn’t a big stretch for her to take on how Stacy would play those types of scenes.  They’re both animated, they’re both wild people by nature, and so, it was a good fit.  It was a smart idea from the writers.

STACY:  It was a good fit!

ERIC:  I’ve been out with the two of them, and it’s hard to tell the two of them apart. (Laughs)

STACY:  We are just like two cuddly bunnies.

ERIC:  They’re like flirting with each other, and hugging each other.  You find yourself thinking, “Are they going to start ordering the same food at the same time?  This is getting weird. (Laughs)

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In the recent scene that aired; where Kristen as “Nicole” turns off the light while having sex with Brady, is she worried her plan will now go awry?

STACY:  Yes.  I think she is worried about her body because it is burned.  You know, how they take a tattoo off, and it’s as painful as can be.  Not that I’ve had that done personally.  I like my tats, but I hear it is painful.  So, in the storyline, the burn is that pain that she has and the tattoo. There’s a part of her that thinks,  she has to cover it up, and turn the lights down low.

ERIC:  “Nicole” is sleeping, and Brady is rubbing his hands over her shoulder and touching her body, and as he goes over the burn marks.  He sees a flash of the tattoo!  That is a pivotal moment when he starts to put some pieces together.   He thinks, “Woah! That’s exactly where that tattoo was.”  It’s a slow little rollercoaster ride.

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In the past, Kristen then played by Eileen Davidson, drugged and raped Father Eric.  Stacy, did you ever see that story arc?  Literally the sex scene is playing on the screen at Kristen’s wedding to Brady and then all hell breaks loose.  This to say Kristen is notorious for the ways and the lengths she goes to get her men into bed.

STACY:  Yes! I saw her Eileen do those scenes.

ERIC:  You also saw how close Kristen and Brady were to their dream, to their happiness, their goal, which was they were going to marry each other.  Brady is looking upon his loved ones in this town and thinking, “I know what you all think of her, but I’m going to show you our love on this screen, and once you see the connection that we have here as a couple, you all are going to be convinced that we belong together as well.  This is the happiest day of my life,” and the screen comes up and it’s his brother banging Kristen instead.

Marlena (Deidre Hall) played the wrong DVD!

STACY:  It was so good.  See, I try to find as much info as I can on the character’s past, because all of the time I’m trying to find where these characters have been in their dark and twisted past.

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ERIC:  You’re putting your own stamp on Kristen.  You got a direct call from DAYS casting department, didn’t you … when they were recasting the role?

STACY:  Yes.  You have to understand, I had two really separate characters to play when I was on Y&R.  One was a doctor, and one was this crazy passionate, wild, little minx.

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ERIC:  I will say to find the wild and the beauty in one package is not easy in any town, yet alone Los Angeles.  I’m glad they called you, because you have that.  You have that villainous nature, but you also are able to show a vulnerable side to Kristen that is going to be a lot of fun and interesting to see.

Stacy is one of those people that will leap off of the screen at you and you will remember her.  She is one actress that will have fans talking about their work, like when you played crazy Patty Williams on Y&R.  The audience was on the edge of their seats going, “Oh, my God!  What is Patty going to do next?”

STACY:  I never knew what she was going to do!

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Eric, has Stacy come to you at any point where she been overwhelmed by the task at hand; playing Susan while playing Kristen, etc, and the two of you have a moment where you work through some of the challenges of complex scenes  … and ones where she is playing multiple characters?

ERIC:  We’ve had many moments  to speak of.

STACY:  I always come into Eric’s room, and am like, “I’m scared!”

ERIC:  It’s funny you mention it.  We have had some very emotional scenes, and Stacy – who cares so damn much about this job and portraying this character correctly – that she gets a little overwhelmed, and the material that they give her is overwhelming for any anybody on any level.  I have looked at her in the eyes, and said, “You’ve got this gig.  You are this character.  You are knocking it out of the park.  Just do it.  Just be you.”   I can’t wait for people to see some of the stuff we have shot recently and have been doing.

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Stacy, do you think Kristen can be redeemed? Many characters on daytime … and on DAYS … have done horrible things and later turned over a new leaf.

STACY:  The thing is that villains are bad and all that other crap, but they’ve got a lot of stuff going on inside and insecurities, and they’ve got a heart.  I’m sorry, the villain with a heart of gold, can be very  true.  I never see villains (and I play them a lot) as bad.  You have to find where it comes from … how far does this go … where did that little seed change … and what made them go into the dark, but also, where is the good?  You want to bring the good to it, too.

ERIC:  Let’s face it!  Star Wars is all about Darth Vader and how he became that because it’s intriguing.

Because of the pace in which DAYS tapes its episodes; do the two of you find time to run lines together before you go hit the set?

ERIC:  We are running out of time to run lines.  It’s pretty wild.  Funnily enough, I was recently filming a movie and I was so underwhelmed at the pace of everything.  I’ve gotten so accustomed to moving at this militant style, that as hard as it is, it is preferable to me now.  I almost like it because you don’t have time to overthink what you are going to do, and you end up getting more visceral and natural reactions to the material.  You can overthink a scene, and you can come to a wrong performance that way.  When you burn your fingers on a hot stove, that’s the most natural reaction you are going to get.  You can’t have ten minutes to think about how you are going to scream about that pain.

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But, would you like the pace of shooting the show to be a bit slower?

STACY:  I would like to, but I do think sometimes just jumping in, and going and seeing what happens is great.  I love that.  I do appreciate that.

ERIC:  It’s scary.

STACY:  It is scary.  I would love if we would get to do a rehearsal and then two takes just to see, and then they can mix  together what happens.  Sometimes I am hard on myself as an actress.  I’ve always been.  It’s that jumping in when you only get to do one take.  You have to just give it everything you’ve got.

ERIC:  You can have a second take.  Want me to give you a little secret?  All you have to do is screw up your last line.

STACY:  I can’t do that.   I don’t even need it to be perfect because nothing is perfect.  It doesn’t matter what I’ve done if I sometimes don’t feel it.  I need to feel it when I’m on that set.  I need to feel something because when I shut down, I close myself off.  It’s like an athlete who has just got to  train as hard as they can to reach their goal.

ERIC:  You’re an Olympic swimmer!

STACY:  You’ve got to do it as hard as you can.  You practice, and you practice, and you practice, and you practice, so that when you come to that day, you do the best you can, but sometimes you are disappointed because you didn’t get that one last thing you had hoped for.

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How do you view what happened to Eric with Kristen, who disguised as Nicole, tricked Brady into bed with her?  Some fans commented that that they thought it was akin to a rape.

ERIC:  No, I would disagree with that theory.  I believe there is a high degree of deception in this, but there is a willingness on behalf of Brady.  He’s not drugged.  He’s not being forced to do anything.  Deception, yes.  Rape, no.

Stacy, what do you think?

STACY:  Total deception.  There is no rape.  There is absolutely no rape.  These are willing participants; he just doesn’t know exactly who he is dealing with.

ERIC:  I appreciate the context of how somebody could construe that, and the seriousness of the matter.  I don’t think it really has a place in this particular storyline.

Do you guys think that Brady and Kristen are each other’s star-crossed lovers in a weird, twisted, bizarre way?

ERIC:  I don’t know.  I think they’re magnetism can’t be denied.  I think the hurdles that they’ve jumped through are astronomical.  Will they end up together in the end?  Who knows!  Will there ever be an end?  Who knows!  It’s definitely been one of, if not the most, in-depth relationships Brady has ever had.

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And intense!

ERIC:  Yeah.  They’ve just gone through so much to be together, and when you do that, anybody who is married knows that, that’s where the good stuff is; the wars that you win together and the battles that you go through.  When you come out of the war, and you’re still together, that’s the bond.  That’s what lasts.

What would Kristen do if she couldn’t have Brady in the end?  Would she find a new obsession?  What if she could not nab her man?

STACY:  Wow!  Hmmm. (Laughs)  She’s going to get her man.  She wants her man.  She wouldn’t settle.  She’d keep fighting.  I would say to her, “Kristen, keep fighting the good fight.”

So, do you think Kristen will reveal herself to Brady sooner than later? Will Brady figure out what Kristen has been doing to get to him?  Will Brady turn Kristen away if he knew she was alive and back in action  … or would he fall back into her arms? Share your theories via the comment section below.

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GH’s Rebecca Herbst Chats On ‘Friz’, Her On-Screen Sons & How Liz Has Grown-Up

Last week, Rebecca Herbst celebrated her 22nd year playing fan favorite Elizabeth Webber (now Baldwin) on General Hospital.  She made her on-screen debut on August 1, 1997.  And in those two decades plus in Port Charles, Liz has gone through many a rocky relationship, plenty of drama, and carried out some misdeeds of her own.  But one thing is for sure, Becky is loved by the fans of the long-running ABC daytime drama series who always want the best for her, and for Nurse Elizabeth.

Recently, ‘Friz’ fans got a moment they had long been waiting for when Franco (Roger Howarth) and Liz, and their friends and family (and some enemies) shared in their wedding reception.  But can their happiness last?  According to two psychics, Sibley Gamble (Veronica Cartwright) and Chelsea Lambas (Jen Ray) that Franco has run into in recent weeks, he better be careful.  That has made Franco concerned, while Liz is trying to get her family all on the same page, and it looks like her boys are coming around to loving and accepting Franco, too, despite what Liz’s ex Jason (Steve Burton) may have to say about it.

Michael Fairman TV caught up with Rebecca  at the GH Fan Club Weekend, where she made a welcome appearance, to talk about: how she sees Elizabeth’s relationship with Franco, her talented on-screen sons, and how Liz has grown-up since she started on the series, and more.  Here’s what Becky shared with us below.

What did you think of the long-awaited wedding reception of Franco and Liz?  The show finally gave them this joyous moment; after their jailhouse nuptials. Did you feel like the way the wedding actually went down it felt like it cheated the relationship, or did you like it?

REBECCA:  I felt the jailhouse wedding was a bit of a cheat, because they had tried two different times to have a really glorious wedding, so to do it in a jail cell was not the most desirable place. (Laughs)  However, the fact that the characters did actually get married and nothing came in between was a plus, and so, hey, they’ll take that.  Later, when I read in the scripts that there was going to be the reception, I was shocked, because I really didn’t think it was ever going to happen.

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Do you think the fans were getting to the point where they thought this was never going to happen, also?

REBECCA:  For sure.  We all thought they Franco and Liz were never going to have their moment, or their honeymoon or any of that. I was really pleasantly surprised to see that not only did they write it, but it was beautiful!  It was also visually beautiful.  They put a lot of effort and thought into the show itself, and nobody died, and nobody fell through the roof.  Well, it was kind of funny that Obrecht (Kathleen Gati) got pushed off the ‘Haunted Star’, but according to Elizabeth, that’s just fine that Obrecht got pushed off the boat. (Laughs)  She didn’t die, so everything is good, but all in all, it was a really wonderful party.

What did you think when they had all of Elizabeth’s sons performing a song for the happy couple.  It was so cute, and touching.

REBECCA:  Oh, my goodness.  Those were real tears I shed.  That was so sweet.  So very, very sweet of them.

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The show is growing the boys, so now you, as Elizabeth, have some young actors to play off of in your scenes.  How do you feel about that?

REBECCA:  Oh, I love it!  For so long, Elizabeth would only talk about her kids, “My boys, my boys, my boys, my boys in the attic.” (Laughs) Now, she has relationships, and very different relationships with each one of them.

I think that echoes real-life too.  A mother has distinct relationships with each of her children.  That’s what I like about Liz with her sons.  And as a mom in real-life as well, I am sure you can relate to this.

REBECCA:  Yes, my relationship with all of my kids is completely different, and I really love that it’s true for Elizabeth’s kids.  I attribute a lot of that to the writers, because they definitely write our relationships differently.  Aiden (Jason David) is still this baby who Elizabeth coddles and protects.  Cameron (William Lipton) is expected to be the man of the house and take care of things, and sometimes Elizabeth feels like she puts too much responsibility on him, but he is going to protect his mom no matter what.  Hudson (Jake) is so wonderful, too.  The fact that I have been blessed with three beautifully smart little actors is just a win for me.

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Let’s talk about Aiden, who had been bullied at school by the other kids.  Do you think that story will be fleshed out?  It seems it may have been put on pause, because it would be an important story to tell for parents with LGBTQ children, if that is how GH ultimately chose to tell the story.

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REBECCA:  It is an important story.  I would love to tell the story.  There is a great message.  I don’t think we touched on it enough.   I think, for now, the best way to put a button on it is to send the message that we should accept our children with all of their wonderful attributes and personalities and whatever their interests, and let’s not label children, and listen to them and support them.   We should just all be kind.   I was sad when I would read some of the tweets about the story.  It saddened me to read people’s harsh opinions towards Elizabeth’s acceptance of her child.  Some people said that we should not be doing a story like this, and then there was the other half who said, “Just because he is a baker, doesn’t make him gay,” which is 100% true.

True!  TV viewers have certainly seen a lot of straight chefs on foodie or cooking shows, for example.

REBECCA:  Absolutely!  All three of my children in real-life love to cook.  There is nothing wrong with that.   I think we need to just continue to love Aiden no matter what, and he is not different than any of the other kids.

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William Lipton has been amazing as Cameron, right?

REBECCA:  Amazing.  I know!  He is not only a great little actor, singer, and performer, but he has this beautiful little face, and he is such a grounded young man.  He’s a really sweet person.  You can tell he’s been raised in a really great house, and he has an amazing mom.

Because you are such a “mom’s-mom” in real life, do you think that helps you in how Elizabeth reacts to her children?

REBECCA:  I think so.  I always ask permission from my on-camera kids before a scene: “Is it okay if I kiss your little head?  Is it okay if I put you on my lap here?  Is it okay if I put my hands on your face?”  I’m not their mother, but when I think about what I would do with my real-life kids,  they’re always getting kissed and hugged and held by me, so I want to make it look as real as possible.  I have to think, “What would I do if this were Emerson?”  He’d be on my lap, and I’d be kissing his little neck.  So, then I have to ask Jason, who plays Aiden, “Is it okay that I kiss your neck, and if I kind of just like snuggle you?”  All three of my on-screen kids are so great, because they’re like, “Yeah, sure.  We don’t care!” and not all stage kids are like that.  They all are receptive of my love, and they just let me do it.  I think that is what is so sweet.

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What do you think of this whole pairing of Elizabeth and Franco, and that you were paired with Roger Howarth?  Elizabeth has had many relationships on the show, so where does her relationship with Franco fit into her list of romances/relationships?  Do you think Franco is one of her great loves?  Over her life, Liz has had a lot of ups and downs, and at times, has not made the best choices for herself, or the choices she made just haven’t worked out in her favor.  I think we all can relate to somebody whose choices don’t work out the way they envision them to be.

REBECCA:  For sure.  I think each of Elizabeth’s relationships have been so different. Just to talk about a timeline: she was a little girl when she was with Lucky (Jonathan Jackson), and as she’s matured, so have her relationships.  However, I think the relationship she has with Franco is her first real adult relationship; in that she not only does respect him, but she respects herself.  She is not afraid to stand up to anybody for the sake of herself, or her children.  I think that is the difference.  In the past, she has been a little so head-over-heels in love that she would do anything, and now, she knows who number one is, and that’s her children, and she puts herself first now, too.  Before, Elizabeth did not matter to herself.

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I thought Elizabeth treated herself badly.  Is there a self-loathing?  Did you ever that figure out as an actress where that comes from?  Do you think it was from when she was raped years ago?

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REBECCA:  I think it went deeper than that.  I think it was because her parents left her at such a young age, and although they were doing great work for whatever they were doing, she was left as a child.

So, she felt something was wrong with her if they left her behind?

REBECCA:  Yes.  I think that’s where her lack of self-esteem came from.  She just didn’t have that support at home when she needed it the most, especially when she was a teenager.  You need your parents around you to tell you that things are awkward and weird, and you’re changing, but you’re going to be okay.  She didn’t have that, and so, she kind of had to figure it out on her own.  She did it through her relationships with men, and she didn’t have men in her life who were telling her, “You’re going to be okay,” except for Lucky, but that was a younger relationship in her life.  Now, as more of an adult with Franco, he tells her she is going to be okay.  Franco believes in her as much as she does now.

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What’s the best part about working with Roger … and what’s the most challenging part?  Is it some curve balls that might come from when you are going live-to-tape?

REBECCA:  For me, I know I can totally work around whatever comes out of his mouth. (Laughs)  I’m good with that. (Laughs)  The most challenging thing about working with him is that he is constantly losing his glasses, so he can’t see his scripts.  It’s always at the end of the scene.  It’s like, “Where are the glasses?” (Laughs)  So, if losing his glasses might be the most challenging thing, then I’m a pretty lucky girl!

Where does Jason (Steve Burton) fit into Liz’s life at this point? 

REBECCA:  We’ve not really established that.

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Since Jason has been back on the canvas, not much has been played between them.

REBECCA: They had a relationship, they have a relationship, and they have a friendship.  It should be played.

What would you love to see happen to Elizabeth story-wise, that perhaps you have not gotten the opportunity to play?

REBECCA:  I would love to see Elizabeth be happy with Franco and just explore whatever that means for her in a long-term, adult sense (because she doesn’t really know how that is yet), an adult happiness, while trying to navigate the kids’ lives, but also having a friendship with Jason.  I think that would be interesting, because she has always held a torch for Jason.

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Viewers are currently alarmed that Franco has been receiving warnings from two psychics.  On last Friday’s episode, Franco is clearly afraid to take a drive and in Cameron’s new car (the one Oscar gave him) due to the psychic, (Chelsea) telling him: “Don’t take that drive!” Does Elizabeth have something to be worried about? 

REBECCA:  Yes, but she’s going to hang on to Franco, and make sure nothing happens to him … until he doesn’t come home (laughs) …  and then she’ll be calling Jason! (Laughs)

So, what did you think of the sentiments shared by Rebecca?  What did you think of the Friz wedding reception, and Liz and Franco’s relationship?  What do you think of Liz’s relationship with her children?   What are your hopes for Liz moving forward? Comment below.

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