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The Morgan Fairchild & Friends Interview – The Bold and the Beautiful

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This week on special episodes of The Bold and the Beautiful soap fans are being treated to some unusual suspects!  First, Morgan Fairchild turns up as Beverly Hills socialite Dottie who has a brilliant idea for her charity to stage a dueling fashion show competition between Forrester Creations and Jackie M!  Dottie seeks out her old friend Stephanie Forrester, and well let’s just say… this brilliant idea does not come off without a hitch.

Enter, Melissa Rivers, Alan Thicke and Jim J Bullock. This notorious threesome play the three judges who decide the fate of the fashion showdown.  Alan and Jim have appeared on “B&B” previously, while Melissa is a first-time soap rookie.  With a few long arduous days of tapings, the group really got a taste of what it takes to put on a fashion show, BOLD style.

On-Air On-Soaps first caught up with Morgan Fairchild who talked about her appearance on the show, and her legendary career.  Very outspoken, Morgan gives some insight into the inner-workings of her daytime and primetime experiences.  Then, we chatted one-on-one with Jim, Alan, and Melissa. This hilarious trio tells us about the perils of judging, working on a soap, and makes us laugh.  We bring you Morgan Fairchild and friends!

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MICHAEL:

How was your experience at “B&B” during your special week?

MORGAN:

It’s so funny.  I know so many people from this show. John McCook (Eric) was a neighbor, and I used to chat with him when he used to walk his dog.  I played Jenna Wade with Patrick Duffy (Stephen) on Dallas, and I saw Hunter Tylo (Taylor) at my gym, but I did not want to bother her because she was working out hard with a trainer. Lesley-Anne Down (Jackie) and I had done North and South together…all the versions (She laughs).  Jack Wagner (Nick) and I have been seated in a plane across from each other cross country.  He seemed like a nice down to earth guy, and after working with him…I still think so! (She laughs)  I have to say everybody was helpful and nice. The entire cast was here for the fashion show episodes. So we would talk with each other in hair and make-up during all the frenzy of getting made up.

MICHAEL

What is your character Dottie’s (short for Dorothy) objective on the show?

fashionChallenge.jpgMORGAN:

Well Dorothy’s objective is to get this fashion show in place because she thinks it going to be a great sale for her charity.  She wants to do a big charity fundraiser and listen, I live out here in California and we all have seen people in Beverly Hills who are throwing events, and trying to find something new and novel that you can sell tickets on.  So she gets the idea of getting these two acrimonious rivals to do a fashion showdown.  I kept calling it a ‘smackdown’, but they would not go for it.  Basically, she knows that this big face-off will sell tickets, and then I am the recipient of others peoples duplicities.

MICHAEL:

How did it come about that you ended up on “B&B”?

MORGAN:

My agent just called and said, “This is what they wanted to do,” and I thought it sounded like fun.  I knew many people that worked on the show, and I thought it would be fun to do the glam fashion stuff.  “B&B” seems like a show that is always looking for something fun and innovative.  They have been here and a hit for so long, and it’s not because they don’t know what they are doing!

MICHAEL:

How was working in scenes with Susan Flannery (Stephanie)?

morganSusanFlannery.jpgMORGAN:

Oh, just great.  She is such a hoot.  We got along like a house- a- fire and we are both very irreverent.  Susan is a legend in this, and it’s a thrill for me to work with her.  She is a fine actress, and if you are an artist you always want to work with good people. That’s what you live for…a chance to work with really good and talented people.

MICHAEL:

You were on many daytime soap operas in your career: including Search for Tomorrow (Jennifer Pace) and The City (Sydney Chase). Do you see any difference to the soaps?  Or, is it the same to you now as it was to you back then?

MORGAN:

There are a lot of differences. When I stared on “SFT” in 1973, it was half hour show, and it was live to tape.  Unless the set fell in on you, you were not stopping.  I learned a few tricks that the older actors showed me.  You learn more tricks, and that is where it was great for a kid starting out.  I had grown up in the theatre.  This was the first time I got to do television. The older actors back then, and especially in New York… everybody seemed to come from the theatre.  So you were working with seasoned pros. Larry Haines (Stu) was on there… and Mary Stuart (Jo) and had been on forever.  She had been a legend for that time period. John Cunningham (Wade), Michael Nouri, and Kevin Kline were also on. Kevin just got out of Julliard with my sister.  So you are working with really good actors.  So everybody is kind of winging it and learning.  I told John McCook when I was doing “SFT” in New York, I would go into the control room on our lunch break everyday, and I would watch our show. “Y&R” came on just before or after that.  I felt I knew John from playing Lance Prentiss.  Some of the other actors on “SFT” would make fun of me and go, “Why are you watching the show?” I would watch what I did wrong.  I learned so much by doing that.  By the time I did The City things were a bit different in the way they shot.

MICHAEL:

The City was for its time was trying to be innovative with the film look for daytime.

MORGAN:

Well they tried to do that.  They had great ambitions but quickly ran into reality of shooting a location in New York.  The first six weeks were really great, but I just didn’t think they thought it through.  In retrospect, I bitch.jpgwish they would have sat down and talked to me before they did that.  I feel I could have given them some ways to save time and money on that. I think they got a little burned on that, and went back to a traditional soap format.  At “B&B”, they shoot very fast.  To their credit, let me say, The City would shoot everything on my set for four or five scripts at one chunk.  So, I would have 18-25 scenes a day and 70 pages or so of dialog.  It’s very hard.  If you don’t have actors who are serious about it, that’s a killer.  There were a couple of kids on the show I had to take aside and say, “When you work with me, you will show up on time, and you will know your lines.  We are on take 12 for you, and you are going to go home and go straight to bed because you came here straight from the clubs.  And I am going to be here till 10 o’clock at night and so is the crew. They are not going to see their families or their kids, and it’s not fair.”  I have been doing this since I was 10-years-old.  I have no patience for people who don’t take this seriously. I would tell the kids, “I don’t care what you are doing with your private life, but when you work with me you get this done, and we all go home and we can all have a life…not just you! “(She laughs).

MICHAEL:

What did you think of the fashions in the dueling fashion show challenge?

MORGAN:

The girls look great.  I don’t want to spoil the surprise about Lesley-Anne’s outfit.  I was yelling, “Berlin 38”!  Everyone looked gorgeous and is dressed to the gills.  You sit around and admire everyone, and the fashions are lovely.

MICHAEL:

Were you able to keep your concentrate?  The “B&B” tape days when they do a special fashion show are known to be extremely long.

MORGAN:

Well, I sat a lot and then I walked and talked.  On the show, Dottie is in the audience and then I have my speeches.  I remember I forgot one of them because I was so tired I almost lost consciousness… because we had a very long night. (She laughs)

MICHAEL:

Did you pattern Dottie after anybody?

MORGAN:

Not anybody in particular, but I have dealt with people like that in Beverly Hills so many times.  You know they say, “You have got to do this event. If you don’t, children will die!” (She laughs)  They are pushy broads, and it usually works.  Guilt is a wonderful tool.

MICHAEL:

How big is fashion in your life for you? How do you dress normally?

MORGAN:

Two of the outfits I wear on these episodes are mine. They are both Ralph Lauren.  At home, I am such a bum.  I am always running around in my gym clothes.  I run around in Reeboks all the time.

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Is dressing up for an event such as: a fashion show or an award show, something you like or dread as Morgan?

MORGAN:

I have been doing it for so long.  I have become a lazy bitch in my old age.  It’s not something I am dying to do because it’s work, but you get into it.  First of all, I don’t go to many, because I went to so many for so long.  My boyfriend also does not get into that type of thing.  Sometimes, I go to a friends opening or work related event.  Then you think, “Oh God. What can I get into?”  I sort of buy defensively and pull something together.  For this show, I wore a gold Ralph Lauren suit.   It was hard to find some shoes to wear with it, but I had two-year-old Christian Louboutin shoes that were right.  But at that time, I felt very guilty for spending a lot of money to buy them.  But now I get to wear them on “B&B”.  So, I feel not so guilty.  This is my excuse. (She laughs)

MICHAEL:

On soaps, you have gotten to play and are often typecast as the vixen or the troublemaker.  Why do you think that is?

MORGAN:

I always thought it was my nose.  I have a pointy nose, and it makes everybody think you are a bitch.  They don’t even give you a chance.  I honestly thought I was going to play ingénues my whole life.  Suddenly I get to New York and get on the soaps and it’s instant bitchdom.  I was talking to Don Diamont (Bill), and it’s more fun to play the bad guy because you are always the catalyst.  The way I have always done it is, I throw in a lot of one-liners.  I take a lot of one dimensional bad girl parts and make them fun and kind of jump.  Larry Hagman (JR) did it on Dallas, and Joan Collins (Alexis) did it on Dynasty.  The thing was, none of us were supposed to be the stars of the show, but we are wise-asses, and we would throw it out there.  Those are the characters that jump off the screen.

MICHAEL:

What do you think of the ‘cougar’ storyline on “B&B” between Owen and Jackie?   Even Susan Lucci (Erica) has a ‘cougar’ storyline beginning on “AMC”!

cougarMorgan.jpgMORGAN:

I think older woman/younger guy is great. I think the term ‘cougar’ is demeaning.  No offense to this show.  Just as a woman, I find it demeaning.  What is reciprocal one for a guy… letch? (She laughs)  I think the whole concept of women not being limited to someone older than they are is great.  The way it was before, a woman used to be married to someone at least five years old than she was.  I think that’s great that those set of norms have become passé.  On the other hand, you look at some of these woman and wonder, “What do you talk to him about?  He does not look that bright!”  It’s sort of the same thing you think when you see older guys and dim blondes. “What do they talk about?”

MICHAEL:

You did a very interesting first on television on the old sitcom Roseanne.  How did that come about?

MORGAN:

They called me up in 1992 and they called and offered me this part.  I jumped at it.  My agent said, “Are you sure you want to do this?”  I knew it was groundbreaking, because I was the first lipstick lesbian on a sitcom playing Sandra Bernhardt’s girlfriend.  I thought it was going to be a hoot.  Sandra talks about her new girlfriend through the whole show and the last person anybody was going to expect to walk through that door was Morgan Fairchild. It was fun, and you like to do things that catch people off-guard.  I have been in the business so long that you can keep doing the same stuff forever.  So it’s always fun when they let you do something different.  Another one was playing Chandler’s mom on Friends. When they called and offered me that, a lot of my girlfriends called and said, “You are too young to do that part as the boy’s mother.”  I had played the mother of teenagers before, but never a grown son.  I have this theory; that to stay in this business you have to reintroduce yourself to a new audience every five years.  So, when they offered me the Old Navy gig, I thought that was great.  I told my friends, “You know the target demographic for the clothes is 13-year-old boys. You know what? The network demographic is 13-year-old boys.”  I have little kids in airports doing the Old Navy dance and they don’t know a thing about me from Flamingo Road or Falcon Crest. They know me as the ‘Old Navy lady’.  Friends was the same thing.  You want to place yourself where you are seen with an audience that you want to cultivate.  So, on Friends she was the vixen mom when all he wanted was Donna Reed.  She was very funny and they wrote great material.

morganMain.jpgMICHAEL:

You have had amazing opportunities in your career to work with some of Hollywood’s legends.  What has all of that been like and meant for you?

MORGAN:

I got to work with Bette Davis, Jane Wyman, Eve Arden, Natalie Wood, and Cesar Romero. All the people I had grown up.  I was very lucky to be able to do that when I got out to LA.  You treasure those moments.  The great thing about the old stars is that they were great raconteurs.  They had such good stories, and they would dish.  I mean, you would know who shot who, who was sleeping with who, and where a body was buried under what dam.  It was a hoot.  I actually took the pilot of Hotel because I always have these motives. (She laughs) My motive was, I wanted to work with Bette Davis, but then she had her stroke and she was not able to the series.  However, we became great friends and she kind of adopted me.  It was a hoot.

JIM J BULLOCK

MICHAEL:

Sergei has come back to “B&B”! You play a wedding planner.

jimjbullock.jpgJJB:

Sergei has come back and resurfaced.  How many “ss’ can I put in… ‘Sergei surfaces’! (He laughs)

MICHAEL:

So in this scenario you are a judge for the fashion challenge.  How were the tape days?

JJB:

It was long and fun.  Alan and Melissa and I, we were sitting there on our asses at a table.  How hard was that?  It was a long day, but I think everyone made the most of it. No one acted like the Queen Bee.  So it was good.

MICHAEL:

Sergei takes a bribe on the plane that could sway the outcome of the fashion show!

JJB:

We do get bought on the plane.  But, my subtext for my character was I would have voted for Jackie M anyway, because I go for the glitz.  The other fashion house was more subtle.  So, it made Sergei feel better because he would have voted for Jackie M anyway, even though he was bought out and swayed.

MICHAEL:

How is doing a soap?

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You know, at this point in my career I am so grateful for the work.  Here, there is a family that forms.  You get a place to go everyday and that is so rare in this business.  It’s great to come here and the cast remembered me from my last appearance in 2004!

MICHAEL:

Were you always innately funny?

JJB:

I am just queer.  I don’t mean that in a gay way.  I was peculiar and odd at a young age, and so I made people laugh.  I never set out to be a comic. It just sort of happened.

MICHAEL:

Have you ever really judged anything as a real judge?

JJB:

As a matter of fact, yes.  I was a judge for the Miss Teen USA pageant, somewhere in Louisiana when a hurricane hit in the early 90’s.  It was the only pageant that I knew of that they crowned two queens.  That is because they had to pre-tape it, and they did not want it to leak to the press.  So they gave it to Miss Wyoming and stopped taping, and made her give her back her crown and get back in line!  Then they crowned Miss Missouri.  So when the judges left, no one had known who had won… Miss Wyoming or Miss Missouri… but we found out that night when it aired.

ALAN THICKE

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So you have come back for another visit to “B&B” as Rich Ginger!

ALAN:

Yes, occasionally they let me do that here.  Rich is a talk show host.  What he usually does is move other people’s storylines along.  They will come sit on the panel on his talk show and Rich will say, “When last we saw of Brooke Logan and Ridge they were … ,” and then you full in the blanks.  I have been utilitarian till now.  Rich is integrated in this storyline.  Now he seems to be influenced, somewhat.

MICHAEL:

Is he a slimy talk show host?

ALAN:

He has all the potential to be a slime ball and a real sleazy guy. They blackmail him on the plane.  They know his vulnerability and it turns out for a yacht trip, and a free bit of swag, it makes him cast his vote in the right direction.

MICHAEL:

How were the long tape days during the fashion show episodes?

alanJudges.jpgALAN:

We were at the studio all day and night and could have brought us a tent! (He laughs) They treated us well.  I did see the fashion show, and from my perspective I thought they looked great.

MICHAEL:

Have you worked before with Jim and Melissa?

ALAN:

I have known Jim for 25 years from when I started my own talk show in Canada.  Melissa, I last saw when we both played hockey in a charity exposition game.

MICHAEL:

Did you check her?

ALAN:

I did not cross-check her into the boards or anything but…I checked her out! (He laughs)

MELISSA RIVERS

MICHAEL:

How was your experience at “B&B?”

melissaRivers.jpgMELISSA:

It was fun. Normally, I work in such chaotic conditions.  I am used to working live on red carpets with everything swirling around in my ear peace, and watching a monitor, and trying to prep for an interview in ten minutes.  For me, to have that kind of quiet where you have to focus, that is the hardest for me.  I can focus in complete chaos.  But it’s creepy to me when everyone is so quiet!

MICHAEL:

Why do a daytime soap?

MELISSA:

I am one of those people who like to collect experiences.  I have never done any time on a daytime set so that was great.  It’s a new animal for me.  I have always had respect for the genre, and how much dialog these actors can memorize!

MICHAEL:

What’s next for Melissa?

MELISSA:

I love what I do.  I want to keep producing, and hosting, and being a good mom.  I am working on my book that comes out in January.  It’s called, “Life Lessons from the Red Carpet”.

MICHAEL:

I always thought when I am doing the red carpet events and interviewing the stars that I want to poke my eyes with a fork.  One is more gorgeous then the next.  Do you feel that way when you do the red carpet?

MELISSA:

Always!  These people are not human.  You just want to go home and cry or eat…because there is no point. There is no point anymore. (She laughs)

MICHAEL:

Speaking of the red carpet, was their ever a moment that sticks out to you as being a really screwed-up interview?

MELISSA:

Every single time there is a moment where I want the earth to open up and swallow me. My book talks about that, and handling those things.  It’s drawing a metaphor to the fact; that the idea of the red carpet is anytime the focus and the attention is on you.  You don’t have to be on a red carpet.  It’s how to handle yourself in those types of situations.

MICHAEL:

And on “B&B” you are the only one of the judges playing yourself!

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Yes, and that is always a little challenging when they write dialog for me and you have to play yourself.  I would not say it was Emmy time, but it was fun.

MICHAEL:

Did you ever judge anything before?

MELISSA:

I think I did Miss Teen USA one year, and that was kind of fun.  As much as you want to be silly and campy, the contestants take it very, very seriously.  You get wrapped up in the moment, and that’s what makes it so good.

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Y&R’s Christian LeBlanc and Michelle Stafford Talk On Their Enduring Friendship, Sharing Scenes & Preview Special Episode

Coming up on the Monday, January 10th episode of The Young and the Restless, the CBS daytime drama series will mark the 30th anniversary of Christian LeBlanc as Michael Baldwin.

In it, Michael will being trying to figure out what’s next in his life, after he has been a successful legal eagle for decades, with the assistance of several characters and some memorable flashbacks that might inform him.

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LeBlanc debut on Y&R back at the end of November in 1991, and has won three Daytime Emmys for Outstanding Lead Actor in a Drama Series throughout his time in Genoa City.

To celebrate Christian’s 30th anniversary, Michael Fairman welcomed Christian and his longtime co-star and dear friend, Michelle Stafford (Phyllis) for a special conversation on You Tube’s The Michael Fairman Channel along with some memorable clips.

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During the chat, Michelle and Christian reveal their favorite scenes together, how they met, the key to their enduring friendship, and and how they have gone through the challenges of the Covid-19 pandemic.  Later, Christian shares his reaction to the on set celebration in his honor with his co-star and previews his special episode.

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In addition, during the holidays, Michelle helped organize a toy drive for the second year in a row to help children and families in need along with the NAACP and the National Action Network, which Christian participated in along with several Y&R cast members, and they discuss how the toy drive came together during these trying times for everyone.

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Now below, check out the full interview with Christian and Michelle, followed by the promo for LeBlanc’s special episode.

Let us know in the comment section what your favorite part of the conversation was, what are your favorite Michael and Phyllis scenes through the years on Y&R and share your congratulations to Christian on a job well-done for his 30-year milestone.

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Y&R’s Joshua Morrow Chats On Nick’s Standalone Christmas Eve Episode

Nick Newman (Joshua Morrow) is one tired Santa! After delivering presents to the less fortunate for Christmas, he is tuckered out, and thus will begin the special episode The Young and the Restless is serving up on Friday, December 24th.

The Christmas Eve airing of this all-new standalone episode marks the fourth time in Joshua Morrow’s career that he has been featured like this on the top-rated CBS soap.

In this story, Nick will try to come to terms with where his life is headed when he is taken on a journey through his dreams. Enter plenty of your other favorites from the Newman clan and more, who will definitely make an impact on Nick.  At the end of it all, will Nick come away with some revelations and reflections? Will he learn anything that will change him for the better and give him a clear direction?

As viewers recently witnessed, Nick and Phyllis (Michelle Stafford) called it quits in heartbreaking scenes, leaving Nick once again at a loss in the love live department.  Will he, in turn, eventually reunite with Sharon (Sharon Case), when all is said and done?

Michael Fairman TV talked with Joshua to get insight and a preview on what to expect during this holiday episode including: if he feels Nick is adrift, how he sees each of the characters from Adam (Mark Grossman) to Victoria (Amelia Heinle) impacting his alter-ego, and of course, Nick’s relationships with the women in his life.  So, with that, ‘ho, ho, ho,” here’s our yuletide chat with Mr. Morrow.

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How did you feel when you got a script for this special Christmas episode, and that it was all centered-on Nick?

JOSHUA:  My first reaction was, “Do people really want to see more of Nick? (Laughs) When you see an episode like this, you instantly know that you’ve got to do a lot of work. You’re basically in every scene, and I think it’s pretty common knowledge that I learn my lines in the morning when I get to work. However, on those days, you can’t do that, so you just know that you’ve got to prepare, and everyone is counting on you.  I like doing my scenes as fast as possible, but when you have that much material, you’ve got to put the time in.  As an actor, you hope it’s written well, and that you perform it the way they want you to, and you just go from there.

It’s not about which women Nick should sleep with next?  (Laughs)

JOSHUA:  I think all of Nick’s dreams are women-based. (Laughs) He’s walking around town going, “Who’s next?”  No, it’s a dream about figuring out who he is.  He is going through this kind of loop in his life where he’s not entirely sure where he is, where he should be, what he should be doing, how he’s treating people … it’s just kind of a look inside himself to see if he can come up with any solutions because he knows that what is happening and what he is doing right now is not working.  He doesn’t necessarily know why or how he got to this place, but with the help of some family, hopefully he will figure it out in the dream.

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Sounds like Nick is very much at a crossroads here.

JOSHUA:  Yes, that’s a good description of it.  He’s just kind of wandering, and the biggest thing (and he’s been going through this a lot throughout his whole life) is that he just doesn’t know why he gets to this place.  It’s like, is it something he’s doing?  Is there something wrong with him?  He’s just questioning a lot of things, so during the holidays, it seems like the perfect time to come up with solutions for oneself.

So, in his dream, should viewers expect to we see different characters coming to him, like we’ve seen in other Y&R episodes similar to this?

JOSHUA:  Yes, in the dream, we’re seeing his family coming into his life, and they’re talking about who he is, the good parts about him, sometimes the bad …

… Wait, Nick has bad parts about him? 

JOSHUA:  Well … just maybe some things that he needs to improve on. (Laughs) Without him knowing it, I think Nick is kind of hard on people.  If they don’t necessarily think like he is, without knowing it, he tends to hold that against them.  Just because somebody doesn’t think like you, it doesn’t necessarily mean that they’re wrong.  He is just struggling with where he is in life.  He is wondering if he is doing things right.  The dream comes up, and it helps him realize some things.

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You and Michelle Stafford (Phyllis) did some wonderful scenes recently that aired when Phyllis and Nick broke up.  Do you remember taping those?  How did you feel about the on-screen relationship going south … again?

JOSHUA:  For me, Stafford is my bro.  When you start doing those types of scenes, you realize it’s the end of something for now.  I realized that there was a window when I was with her every day, laughing, making fun of each other, doing the fraternity style comedy that we do with each other.  I did those scenes with sadness because I knew that they were breaking us up and that I wouldn’t get to see her every day, but they were great.  Michelle is such a freaking tornado of talent. I was excited to see her really do the thing I think she does best, which is just unbridled passion, whether it’s positive or negative.  She obviously crushed it.  I was just happy to be a part of it.  I don’t have to do much heavy lifting in those scenes. I just wanted to be there for her.  I think that the scenes did turn out very well.  I wasn’t happy to do them, but I always want to do good work.

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So, where is Nick at with Sharon (Sharon Case) at this point?  How does she impact him in the holiday episode?

JOSHUA:  Sharon is in the special episode offering Nick a lot of advice and guidance.  Sharon is one of Nick’s biggest cheerleaders.  She is constantly trying to make him feel good and better about things that he does.  They’re really good friends.  They are coparenting, you know.  I’m no dummy, obviously the writing is on the wall as to where this will lead, but the journey of how they get there will be the question.  I don’t know when it will happen, but obviously Nick and Sharon have a tremendous history, and anytime they get together it is usually beautifully told.  I don’t know for certain because I don’t ask, but if that is indeed the path that they are going down, I am sure that it will be something the long-time “Shick” supporters are very happy with.  Like I said, there is no romantic anything at the moment. They’re nothing about that.  It’s just that around the holidays, it’s tough not to have someone, and they’re there for each other.  They’ve got kids, and they’re just trying to have a good Christmas.

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Nick and Adam (Mark Grossman) have a very contentious relationship that is very complex. How does that figure into the equation?

JOSHUA:  It’s an interesting dynamic because Nick is forever grateful to Adam.  I literally think he has saved every one of Nick’s children’s lives at some point in their past, and maybe even Noah a couple of times (Laughs) It’s a delicate relationship because whether he mentions it or not, Nick is jealous that Victor (Eric Braeden) seems to turn to Adam now.  Despite all of Nick’s, “I want to do my own thing, leave me alone, etc.” it really hurts him that Victor turns to Adam when the family needs it.  For all of Nick’s, “I’m my own man,” he still really believes in the strength of the Newman family.  He will always have its back, and if it’s being threatened, like it was with what Nick perceives Ashland (Richard Burgi) to be doing, and Victor doesn’t come to Nick to help with that (or … he does in the beginning, but when it comes to an end, he basically casts Nick aside), that really bothers him.  It’s hard not to take that out on Adam. Still, he doesn’t trust him fully, and he is always kind of on edge around him.  It’s a delicate balance of trust and acceptance with Nick and Adam.

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Does Nick feel like the ‘odd man out’ with Victor, when it always seems that Adam and Victor team up?

JOSHUA:  He absolutely does, and again, Nick had brought a lot of this on himself.  He is constantly saying, “I’m going to do me.  I’m going to make my own decisions.  I don’t want you impacting any of those,” but then when Victor turns to Adam and not Nick in a very important situation that involves his sister, Nick is pretty hurt by that.  Nick does feel like Adam has come into his relationship with his father.  They’re working together very closely.  It seems like Adam had Victor’s ear.  It seems like Victor trusts Adam – at this point, maybe even more than Nick.  That definitely bothers him. I don’t fault Victor in this because all Nick has done is stomp is feet and say, “I don’t like the way you handle things,” and, “Leave me alone.  I’m going to handle things my own way.”  It’s an interesting situation for Victor to be in because I think he wants Nick to be in the fold.  He wants Nick to be there whenever he needs him, but Nick has not made that easy.  He is very hardheaded when it comes to the family dynamic at times.  Nick has created all these difficult relationships now in his family, except with his mother.  He and Victoria (Amelia Heinle) are at odds.  He and Victor are always staring each other down at opposite sides of the fence, and then Adam comes in, and threatens what he perceived to be his role in the family, and that also kind of leads to the whole dream.

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You brought up Nikki (Melody Thomas Scott).  How do you see the bond between mother and son?

JOSHUA:  Nick and his mother have always had an extremely close relationship.  Nikki leans on Nick to bring peace in the family, and Nick leans on her to talk him off the ledge at times because he does overreact, and he acts impulsively at times, while Nikki is very cool, calm, and collected at all times.  Usually, he does everything she asks of him.  Nick is very clearly a Momma’s boy, and he always will be, and if his mother needs him, he is going to step up and do what she wants.

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In terms of his sister, Victoria, how does Nick feel about their stormy relationship?

JOSHUA:  I feel like they are not contentious now, but there is a level of sadness because they’ve always been the best of friends.  They have always relied on each other for everything, and now that has been completely cast aside.  They realize they are no longer each other’s person, the person they go to for anything: advice, support, comfort, whatever.  That is gone for each of them now.  It started with the Phyllis situation with the hotel, and now, it is certainly taken to another level with the Ashland thing.  I think that’s what the overall feeling is between the two of them at this time.

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What’s amazing is that you, Amelia, Eric, and Melody are all really close in real life.  It’s like you truly have a second family.

JOSHUA:  It’s a real family.  The four of us are, for sure.  Without question, my favorite scenes to do on the show are when the four of us are together because we really are so close. Those dynamics are the fabric of what the show is about.  It’s not just the Newmans, but with the Abbotts and the Winters as well, and when the show highlights that, and really puts those small details at the front of the show, the fans realize that you don’t need those big, dynamic stories.  You don’t need the big explosive things.  When you just see those tender moments between those family members, that is everything.  That is the Bill Bell (Co-Creator, Y&R) playbook.  It’s easy to play because we care so much about each other, and I think it comes across on the screen.

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Now, you’ve got a new Noah in Rory Gibson, and you got a new Faith in Reylynn Caster, both who came on to the show in the last several months.  How are they doing, and how has it been for you to adjust to working with them as their on-screen father?

JOSHUA:  It’s been awesome.  I’ve always said it’s a very tough job because I fall in love with these kids who play my children, and eventually they go off and do something else, or when they are little, sometimes there is a window when they turn about four, where they go, “I don’t want to be here! (Laughs) But when they’re babies, they’re just kind of in your arms, and it’s hard not to fall in love with them, but then when they get older, I see them grow up and turn into young adults.  Rory is an absolute stud. I did screen-test with the actors auditioning for the role of Noah, and he went first. I’m not exaggerating when I say two beats into our rehearsal, not even the actual screen-test in front of the network, I locked eyes with him, and I went, “This is him.  What are we doing?  I don’t need to do this with anyone else.”  He’s got a soul to him that is really amazing to watch.  He’s got depth.  He’s a really tremendous actor.  He’s a good kid, too.  He works hard, and he really wants to do well, and he’s humble.  In the special episode, Rory steals the dream. He does a scene in this show that is going to break women’s hearts around the world.  I am excited for people to see what he can truly do.  The sky is the limit for this kid.   I love having him here.  I super miss Robbie (Robert Adamson, Ex-Noah).  I love him like he is a son of my own, but Rory has taken this role and done something really good with it.  So has Rey-Rey.   She is obviously a tremendous talent.  Losing Alyvia Alyn Lind (Ex-Faith), who was one of the great loves of my life, killed me.  However, I couldn’t be prouder of her.  We text weekly about what’s going on with her, and she’s off crushing it, and the world is not ready for Aly, trust me!  Rey-Rey has come in, a beautiful, talented, young girl, who really wants to do well, and she fits right into the Newman mold.  I’ve been very, very blessed.  The casting department has really knocked it out of the park with these two.

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I know Hunter King (Ex-Summer) is not on the show right now, but I know you two are really close.

JOSHUA:  Yeah, good grief.  It’s hard for me.  Probably Hunter and Amelia are the two others loves of my life along with Aly.  Hunter and I will text each other constantly, making fun of each other.  We have such a special relationship.  There is not a day that goes by that I don’t miss her.  I just know that she will be back someday.  I don’t know why.  Whereas I know Aly is gone forever.  She is off, and she is going to be a huge star.  Some fish outgrow their ponds, and I said that about her when she left.  Aly is off to a much bigger world, but I have a feeling (and maybe it is more of a hope) that Hunter will come back to me, and I say “me” because nobody loves her more than me. My kids are just everything to me on this show.  Honestly, it is one of the things that keeps me coming back for now almost 28 years.  I love them.  They’re all great people.

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What are you and your wife, Tobe, and the family, going to do for the holidays?

JOSHUA:  We always go snowboarding.  We didn’t go last year obviously because of staying safe from COVID, but we tend to go Colorado every year, and we will be doing that again.  My oldest is away at college this year, so it will be fun to get him home and go off and do what we do.  I remember when I was in my teens learning to snowboard, I was like, “Someday, I cannot wait to lead a bunch of sons down big mountains!” and I’ve been doing that for years with them.  Two years ago, my middle son, who is just this testosterone-raged-alpha-male, finally said, “Dad, I’m leading us down.”  I was like, “Okay.”  He is the one son who has surpassed me in speed, and now we follow him. (Laughs)

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Now let’s talk College Basketball! (Laughs) Gonzaga has already had two losses and it seems every week there is a new team at #1 in the rankings.  Who do you think is looking good? 

JOSHUA:  I only watch Oklahoma hoops. (Laughs) The days of going off to March Madness with all my friends and acting like jackasses for multiple days are gone because I have soccer and lacrosse commitments with my family, but I am still equally as passionate about Oklahoma basketball as I’ve ever been.  I always say it, and it is definitely more heart than mind, but Oklahoma is going to win the national championship this year.

Okay, Joshua.  We will put it out there in the press!

JOSHUA:  You’ve got to put it in the universe!

So, looking forward to Nick’s Christmas journey on Y&R? Which women in Genoa City would you like to see Nick have a relationship with next? What advice would you give Nick Newman to get his life on track? Share your thoughts on this, and our conversation with Joshua, via the comment section below.

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DAYS Chandler Massey & Zach Tinker Chat On ‘WilSon’, Being Recasts, ‘A Very Salem Christmas’ and that Drag Show

Chandler Massey (Will) and Zach Tinker (Sonny) are back for another streaming special, reprising the duo of “WilSon”.  Massey and Tinker can now be seen in the holiday film, Days of our Lives: A Very Salem Christmas now on Peacock.

In a new virtual interview with Michael Fairman for You Tube’s Michael Fairman Channel, Chandler and Zach talk about their scenes and their participation in the Salem Christmas tale.

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As many know by now, in story, Will has to act fast to come up with a story for his script with his Christmas Eve deadline approaching.  Sonny decides he will assist Will and help conjure up the story, and thus we get an altered version of Salem from the guys that plays on the history of Days of our Lives.

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During the conversation, Zach weighs-in on being a recast for Sonny (previously played by Freddie Smith), and Chandler shares that it’s always challenging to step into a role played by someone else – something he also had to do when he began on DAYS.

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In addition, the two discuss reprising their drag roles of Amanda Bottom and Sonny Delight for the holiday number to help save Salem business owners from eviction in Days of our Lives: Beyond Salem.

The actors also banter about the importance of maintaining a presence for ‘WilSon’ as one of the only LGBTQ on-screen duos as part of a daytime soap opera.  The question is: will the airshow write them back in?

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Chandler also weighs-in on: if he was writing Will’s holiday script, what would he like to see befall the good citizens of Salem? You’ll hear his answer.

Check out the interview with Chandler and Zach below.

Now let us know, are you enjoying Chandler and Zach as the new version of WilSon? Share your thoughts in the comment section.

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