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The Sean Kanan Interview – The Bold and the Beautiful

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Who doesn’t love seeing badass Deacon Sharpe back on The Bold and the Beautiful? Soap survivor Sean Kanan (Deacon) has been able to navigate his daytime career through the good times and the bad, always landing on his feet! After being killed-off of General Hospital as AJ Quartermaine, which didn’t sit well with many fans of the ABC soap opera, B&B was like coming home.  And this time, when Deacon arrived back in the world of the Forresters, the Logans, and the Spencers, it was the mighty Quinn (Rena Sofer) who he first encountered.  Imagine that!  Two people that are for all intent and purposes cut from the same cloth … with some clear differences.

Now as Deacon and Quinn have schemed and maneuvered for the love and attentions of Brooke (Katherine Kelly Lang) and Bill (Don Diamont), respectively, and both seemingly have lost those two for good, where else do you turn … but to each other! Feeling jilted, recently the two shared some passionate moments! And the kicker, Quinn’s son Wyatt (Darin Brooks) is now married to Deacon’s daughter Hope (Kim Matula), and the young duo are expecting their first child! Will it be Grandpa Deacon and Grandma Quinn?

On-Air On-Soaps sat down with Sean Kanan to get his take and insights on: returning to the CBS soap opera, working with long time pal Rena Sofer, what he thinks of Deacon as a dad, and what story he would like to explore.  In addition, while B&B co-star Katherine Kelly Lang is currently a celebrity contestant on Dancing with the Stars Italy, Kanan who also appeared on the show a few years back, weighs-in on just how grueling the ballroom dance floor routines and experience can be!  But, what all his fans want to know is if Sean is happy where he is now, after his big return to GH came to quite a disappointing end.  So, here is what the always charming, always funny, and always intriguing, Mr. Kanan had to share.

MICHAEL:

So to reset the stage, all of a sudden things change at General Hospital, and you are back on The Bold and the Beautiful as Deacon.  Would you say for the most part there was an open door policy that if you were available again. and the time was right, you could return to B&B?

SEAN: 

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I’ve always kept in touch with (B&B executive producer and head writer) Brad Bell. Brad is not only a terrific boss, but he is a great guy.  We would communicate from time to time, and at some point we had a conversation where he said, “If it looks like you’re going to be free and no longer doing General Hospital, let me know.”  I said, “I will.  I don’t know when that is going to be,” but I kept that in the back of my head.  When I had the discussions over at ABC with General Hospital, and they wanted to kill off the character of AJ, I called up Brad immediately and put the ball in motion pretty quick, and here I am.

MICHAEL:

And on your first episodes back this time, Deacon bumps into Quinn (Rena Sofer)! And of course, the two of you have worked together previously, so it has been a treat for soap aficionados!

SEAN: 

Rena and I met in 1993, and we met when we were both working on General Hospital.  Then, Rena was one of three lead actresses in my film “March”.

MICHAEL:

What do you think of Rena’s performance in the role of Quinn? And what do you think about the composition of the relationship between Quinn and Deacon … two people who have certainly entertained and executed, shall we say,  not so nice things on others to get what they want?

SEAN:

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I think it’s a terrific part for Rena.  I think there are a lot of similarities between Deacon and Quinn.  They are both survivors, and they are certainly not above scheming and a little bit of larceny to get what they need.  I think they both care a tremendous amount about their children, and they have been persona non grata for a very long time.  They are very much operating on the fringes of B&B society which is the Forresters, the Logans, and the Spencers.  They kind of orbit around that, but what is interesting is that Quinn is a beautiful and attractive woman, but at the beginning, although Deacon never misses an opportunity to appreciate a beautiful woman … he needed a place to stay! (Laughs)  The minute he realized he had something she needed, which was his relationship with Hope, he parlayed that to get a place to stay. Once he was there, I think he was also smart enough not to pursue her.  She obviously has a mercurial personality, and if she gets pissed off, she is going to throw him on the street!  I always joke that Deacon has a very expensive wardrobe, and wears a very expensive watch, but he doesn’t have pot to piss in! (Laughs)  He has no money.  Then there is the other secondary layer; that this woman could possibly be extremely dangerous.  He is like, “What am I getting myself into … and who am I sleeping down the hall from?”  It’s like you better be real careful what you do, or this chick might end up taking out a sword with your name on it! (Laughs)

MICHAEL:

It seems like Quinn is one very formidable opponent for Deacon, but as we have seen where there is opposition there ends up being attraction!

SEAN:

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Absolutely!  However, Deacon is not a guy that shows fear easily. He has been in prison and had been around the block.  He was being cautious.  That being said, there relationship of pursuing common interests certainly has brought them closer!  We all wind up sleeping with each other on The Bold and the Beautiful!  I remember the time they put me with John McCook (Eric).  It was ugly, but damn it, we made it work! (Laughs)

MICHAEL:

Thus far, what has been your favorite scene with Rena?  I am assuming given the nature of your characters; you might have some good laughs on set?

SEAN:

We laugh a lot. We also fight like a brother and a sister, and in her case, a really sexy sister!  We butt heads in a loving fun way, and not in an antagonistic way.  Rena always makes interesting choices. We have a long history together, and that history builds a safety net of “let’s try some new stuff.”  We take what’s on the script which is usually terrific, and we may tweak it a little here and there, and put our own signature on it, and make it the best it can be.  We did this one scene where I ad-libbed and I called her “crazy pants”! (Laughs)  Sometimes I listen as Deacon to Quinn, and it’s such bat-crazy logic she uses, and such overkill about smothering her son.  As a character I felt obliged to go, “Did you hear yourself? You sound INSANE!”  That is sometimes the stuff that drives the scenes.

MICHAEL:

So, Deacon came back on to the canvas and set his sights on Brooke (Katherine Kelly Lang).  Did Deacon really love Brooke?

SEAN:

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Yes!  I think Deacon really loved Brooke.  There is a line that Deacon has that I think is true.  He says, “Any man that has ever been with Brooke Logan still carries a torch for her.”   That is kind of the spell she casts over the men she has been with, and a couple years in prison is a longtime to think about things.  I think what is a fundamental flaw of Deacon’s life is that he has never had a sense of family.  He has had this mother who was a stripper in Vegas, and he had this abusive stepfather.  I think that the concept of having some semblance of a nuclear family anchored by Hope is extremely attractive to him.  I think he is a guy that gets caught up in the romance of that.  I think part of pursuing Brooke was creating a family with her.  Deacon thinks if he does that, it can be the springboard to fix everything else that is wrong …  if he can just fix that part of his life that was never there for him a child, psychologically.  That is my guess, anyway.  And that doesn’t work out!  Brooke wasn’t interested in that, or if she was momentarily interested in that, she then decided what she had with Bill was where she wanted to go.

MICHAEL:

Is Deacon truly OK with that?

SEAN:

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I think Deacon has a big ego.  I think he covers, and he doesn’t show his vulnerability a lot.  I also think prison has taught him to be patient, and that life is not a sprint, it’s a marathon.

MICHAEL:

I would love to find out just who Deacon’s bio-dad is! That would be a great story to tell!

SEAN:

This is the story; again and again I have said I would love to tell.  I think it would be very interesting to find out who his parents are, and they could be anybody!  He could be related to anybody.   He could have brothers and sisters he doesn’t know about.  I think it would be hilarious if Steve Burton (Dylan, Y&R) and I were brothers… and there was a cross-over story! (Laughs)

MICHAEL:

How was working with Katherine Kelly Lang (Brooke)?  She is now off the canvas for a bit hitting the ballroom dance floor on Dancing with the Stars Italy!

SEAN:

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I wish her luck on Dancing with the Stars!  It’s such an amazing experience to live over there in Italy … and over there like that!  It’s great when you are being whisked around and whined and dined, although the flip side of that is you’re training your ass off.  Thank God, Katherine is a triathlete.  I am sure she will do every well, because it’s physically daunting.

MICHAEL:

And now another former B&B and GH castmate of yours, Antonio Sabato Jr., is trying to stay in the ballroom dance competition on the American version of Dancing with the Stars!

SEAN:

It’s funny; Antonio and I both have a background in Martial Arts.  You would think Martial Arts would help you in dancing, but it doesn’t really, because Martial Arts tends to be in some respects more rigid than dance does, and some of the basic stances are counter-intuitive to dancing.   So, I thought this was going to really help me, but it didn’t.  Antonio is also a gymnast.  How is Antonio doing?  I have not seen him on “Dancing” yet.

MICHAEL:

The first week was rough on him. They made him dance first of all the celebrities’ right out of the gate. Antonio has gotten some harsh criticism from the judges and has had some challenges with executing some of the moves, but he is still in the competition.

SEAN:

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The hardest part of this is: the men have to lead, and my teacher was 48th in the world, and I had to lead!  So I am having to learn the dance, and the choreography, and then lead her because she can’t lead.  But with all do respect to the women out there, the reality is two-fold!  Most little girls at some point or another, study some sort of dance, and they either study ballet, or dance, or the basics, and not all of them.  I am not trying to make generalizations, but that generalization does hold weight!  But then you have some guy like Maxim Chmerkovskiy who is phenomenal dancer, who if you are missing a step or are slow, he can literally pull you and move you around, and if you are the guy, you are … SOL man! (Laughs)  Not to digress, but the most fun part of being on Dancing with the Stars Italy was; we would wrap the show at 1AM in Rome and go out clubbing. I was on the show like four or five years ago, and I remember everyone had just watched the live show.  Then we would all show up at a club and people would go nuts!   It wasn’t for the celebrities, but more for the professional dance teachers!  We would go out there and they would make a schmuck like me look like I knew what I was doing.  (Laughs)  It was so much fun; we would dance till five in the morning.

MICHAEL:

Was there a moment when you were in the middle of Dancing with the Stars Italy that you said to yourself, “What have I gotten myself into?” (Laughs)

SEAN:

Here is what was really hard: My Italian when I did the show was not great, and my Italian now is much better. The other thing is; not to take anything away from Ronn Moss (Ex-Ridge, B&B), but he used am ear piece.  So they were feeding him what the Italian meant.  I had to listen to the judges, and had tremendous difficulty in understanding what they were saying, and I had to learn how to dance in Italian.  Now that wasn’t so bad, because I could understand that, but when they would ask a question on the live show, and a lot of it is that you are appealing to the home audience.  I had to do it in Italian.  It was very difficult and a tremendous disadvantage to me to not be able to speak English, but even so I lost after 9 weeks.

MICHAEL:

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Back to B&B, as for your on-screen daughter Kim Matula (Hope), where does Deacon sit with her current choice to be with Liam (Scott Clifton) or Wyatt (Darin Brooks)?

SEAN:

I think Deacon likes Wyatt. They cracked a bottle of scotch together and in a lot of respects they are cut from a similar cloth. Deacon sees that Wyatt has pulled himself up from his boot straps.  I think that also, Deacon recognizes Liam is a good guy.   He wants what makes his daughter happy, and Liam is a guy who follows his heart.  Deacon wants either one of those two guys to take care of her.  I also think that Wyatt had the diamond, and he is a hustler, and things like that are not lost upon Deacon.

MICHAEL:

Do you think Deacon has changed from being such a “hustler”?

SEAN:

I think Deacon has refined his game.  He’s smoother than he used to be, but at his core he’s a guy who is always looking for the angle. You know, it’s funny. I have been a guy in my own life that has been blessed with tremendous opportunities in my life.  I don’t know what it is like to grow up without certain advantages.  The only thing I could equate it to is coming out to Hollywood as young guy and making a lot of mistakes, and trying to see where the water is flowing and do what I could.  I had a safety net with my family, and I knew I had my college education, whereas a guy like Deacon had none of that.  I can’t be very judgmental of this character, because I don’t know what it is like to walk in his footsteps.  He’s a guy just doing what he has to do.

MICHAEL:

Hope finds herself pregnant! What does dad Deacon think of it?

SEAN:

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She’s married.  I don’t think he can’t go anymore, “This is my little girl!”  It’s like, “Look, I have made a lot of mistakes.  I have been in jail and around the block, and if you are willing to overlook that, and see me as the man I am today, I am not going to see you as this idealized fantasy of how you should be in my head as a daughter. This is your life. I am going to accept you as you are.”  I think Deacon is incredibly proud of her. He’s “Team Hope” and supportive of that.  He is like, “You’re happy and in love with Wyatt, I will support that. If it winds up being Liam that makes you happy, then I will support that.”

MICHAEL:

Is there someone that you have not mixed it up with on-screen at B&B this time that you would like to have story with sometime in the future?

SEAN:

I had a fun energy with Heather Tom (Katie).  For some reason, Katie has this visceral dislike of Deacon!  I don’t know where it comes from, other than the fact that Deacon had been in prison, and that’s not the most palatable thing for a woman. I get that. Deacon also tries to assert his sexuality when he can with women, and he certainly likes younger gals and older gals.  Katie is also Brooke’s sister, so she is also privy to a lot of stuff!  I think there is something interesting there, and not a romantic interesting, but I think there is an interesting give and take that I like. Heather is a terrific actress.  I would love to work with Jacob Young (Rick) too!  I have always loved working with John McCook (Eric)!  The more I watch Karla Mosley who plays Maya, she looks like this pretty little deer with those big eyes going, ”Who me?” And the character is a total bitch! (Laughs)  I love that! (Laughs)  I think Deacon and Maya would be so unlikely, but so great!   In story, I also would really be interested in seeing Deacon pull off some coup where he is able to form a financial power base and really go after Bill (Don Diamont) and do a hostile takeover of Bill’s company.

MICHAEL:

Since another one of your talent is stand-up comedy and improv, do you ever improv your lines at B&B?

SEAN:

The new thing I do when there is a last line, or ending moment in a script, is that I will ad-lib a line knowing that probably they will keep it twenty percent of the time.  Sometimes, something is a little racy that pushes the boundaries of what we are allowed to say, but I will say it so that they will have it in the editing room, and they will keep it sometimes.

MICHAEL:

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B&B has been very successful in its format with being a half hour soap compared to the other American daytime dramas.  Do you think that it helps the overall vibe when being a working actor here?

SEAN:

Having come from Y&R and GH, where between them there are 60 contract actors, you are always fighting for real estate, and you are competing with four or five other guys that are in your bracket.  I am so happy to be here.  I know I started over at GH, but I have always felt like it was home here at B&B.  It’s not just the actors, it’s the crew and it’s kind of like a family owned business with the Bells, and it’s a smaller cast. I think it just creates a little less corporate of a place. You don’t get more corporate than GH, and that show has clearly a different business paradigm, which had to stress the hell out of the executives, because they were getting breathed on all the time by ABC/Disney to keep the show alive. There is such gravitas to every single thing, and then have that trickle down from the top, it’s stressful.  The Bold and the Beautiful has such a huge presence internationally, and so I don’t feel like you are in intimate danger of being taken off the air.

MICHAEL:

It seems like you feel that you are appreciated here at The Bold and the Beautiful!

SEAN:

So appreciated!  The way this organization treats their actors, I have never encountered in my entire acting career, and I have worked with every major studio and network. B&B is fantastic, and not just for going on great trips overseas, but the day to day, in and out, of how people act here.  There is a civility and respect here that we all try to show each other.  It creates a great environment.

MICHAEL:

Now that you have been back for awhile, what are your fans saying to you on Twitter and social media?  Do they tell you they want more of Quinn and Deacon?  What feedback are you getting?

SEAN:

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I think people like Quinn and Deacon together in whatever capacity that is.  It is a compliment that people like what we are doing together, which means there will then be more of it, usually. The fans are happy I’m back, which is really nice.  I am back this time and I am back on contract, which is different, so that hopefully I will be sticking around for quite awhile.  I think it allows me to invest a little more, and of course any job I have I am going to invest him, but when you are not on contract you’re always keeping an eye out, and thinking, “What am I going to do next if this winds up ending? “ It allows you to breathe a little and to start looking a couple miles down the road.  At this part of my life, there are a lot of things I want to do, but at B&B we have plenty of tine off per year.  So being at B&B allows me to think to myself: “If I am going to be here for awhile which I like at this point in my life, God willing if they want to keep me, I would like to stay here for awhile.”   I am not looking for something else.  If something else comes, and it fits into the schedule, that’s great.  But when I was 25, you are always looking for … when is that call from Spielberg?  And you know what?  I am really happy here. It has given me an amazing life. I have a career in Italy too.  It really doesn’t get a whole lot better.

 

 

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I love Deacon & Quinn together.

Oh, yes…me, too!!!!!

Michael Fairman, I don’t know you, but I love you. Thank you for this wonderful review. It helps alleviate the pain I feel abou tAJ’s unfair, unfortunate and horrible demise from this dark world that is GH.
I don’t know Deacon either but would like to think, based on your description of him, that he is the Phoenix (rhymes with Deacon) rising from the ashes that was once AJ.
I love Heather Tom and could see Kate with Deacon–easily.
I am happy to hear Sean is doing so well and is with people who appreciate what a gem he is.

Forgive me–I seem to have gotten carried away. Deacon doesn’t rhyme with Phoenix. At its best, it is a case of assonance–the first syllable of the word is something with which I am well versed on.

Love him. The GH insight was interesting. I still can’t believe they killed off AJ. So disappointed in GH.

AWESOME INTERVIEW!!!!! As usual, Sean Kanan TRULY ROCKS!!!!! Thanks for the AWESOME INTERVIEW, Mr. Fairman!!!!!!

Peace.

Thank you! As horrible as that SL was, KKL and SK had AMAZING chemistry. I am currently rooting for BRILL. But ultimately, I just want Brooke to be happy, FAR AWAY from Ridge! Even Deacon would be better than Ridge.

I wish they would bring back Adrienne frantz because amber and deacon had crazy chemistry I know they had a really sucky storyline with them on Y&R but on B&B they were amazing

what a down to earth interview!! sean seems so happy & content now that is on b&b – i am happy for him as he certainly deserves it………………

I’m still pissed at GH for killing off AJ. Stupid move. That being said I love Deacon and am glad he is back on BB. Too many newbies on GH.

This was a great interview. I am very happy to hear he is happy. Funny a lot of people mentioned are actors the GH iic were not smart enough to keep. Heather Thom is a very talented actress ,and I am sure after he has his fun with Quinn, they would be terrific on screen. I hope BB ‘S ratings stay up, with what he says about the writing and the actors are happy. Great. I was really sorry ,but not really surprised at AJ’s death the show “s being written by six grade mean girls .I expect nothing more.

B&B definitely are handling Sean and Deacon better than GH ever did with his return as AJ; GH obviously wanted him to reprise AJ to make up for the loss of Jason, and once they knew they could get Jason back, then AJ was expendable. I am liking Deacon the most this time around, despite always hating the character, so I hope his return to B&B is long worth the while.

Always loved SK as bad boy Deacon but Brad forgot I guess that Deacon is a alcoholic. Like we forgot Brooke is a grandmother and we forgot that Ridge was happily married to Taylor and had three kids.

The interview I’ve been waiting for! I miss Sean Kanan’s AJ so much. He is just as awesome as Deacon Sharpe. I’m not a regular B&B viewer, but I’m watching it more now because of Sean Kanan. I love his chemistry with Rena Sofer’s Quinn. Brilliant casting on B&B’s part. Deacon makes Hope tolerable (to a point). lol.

GH…you can’t see the talent you have because you’re always looking for the next big thing. Letting SK go and killing AJ was unforgivable for this viewer. Even worse were RC’s constant digs at the actor and character. I had been a long time fan of RC’s writing from his days at OLTL. That behavior made me lose any respect I had left of his talent as a writer.

Happy to know Sean Kanan is feeling the love and appreciation he deserves. And I agree with the poster up-thread…bring back Adrienne Frantz! Love Amber.

I love Deacon but I really want him to be a good dad for Hope. I think Deacon and Katie would be interesting. There were a couple of scenes with them and the dialogue crackled, there was chemistry. It would be fun if Katie and Bill were still together and Deacon came between them, because Don Diamont and Sean make great adversaries.

Katie and Ridge are better together.

I met Sean before and he was one of the nicest guys ever! At the time he was on Y&R and I asked him if he would ever consider going back to GH and play AJ again. He said never say never. Well, he ended back at GH after he was done at Y&R and GH screwed him royally! Not only did they lose a great actor, they killed off ANOTHER Q!

Micheal:
Another excellent interview. You asked the questions I would have 🙂 I too would love to see Amber back and where’s “Little D”? Ready too to bring back Jack Wagner (Nick) and Bridget ( hmmm she and Deacon had a past too) so many interesting options. You rock as always. And I do know you! Xo

I’m glad he’s back where he and his work are appreciated. B&B is a great show, because it’s written well. The acting is top notch, and I too love that their international fans adore the show just as much as we do. I miss Sean on GH because I love AJ Quartermaine, but the team over there never appreciated the character, so he’s lost to us. Thank God Brad Bell loves Sean and Deacon. Lol I don’t want him with Quinn however. I would like to see Deacon mix it up with bad girl Alison.

Such a wasted opportunity for General Hospital to bring back a good, kind, loving AJ and to resurrect the Quartermain Family. I’ve always loved Sean Kanan as AJ Quartermaine-thought Billy Warlock was awful in the role. I hate what the writers have done to AJ over the years. I was beginning to like AJ and Elizabeth together, too. Best of luck to Sean. He’s very handsome and very talented.

Days Of Our Lives

Stephen Schnetzer Talks On His Return to Days of our Lives and Working with Susan Seaforth Hayes In Emotional Episodes

Who says you can’t go home again? In the case of Another World favorite, Stephen Schnetzer (ex-Cass Winthrop), he has proven that it is true, and you can go back to your soap roots and where it all started for you.

Last week on April 11th, Schnetzer, along with several other key returns were on set at Days of our Lives taping all-new episodes of the Peacock streaming soap opera, centering on the funeral of Doug Williams (the late Bill Hayes), and as part of the iconic soap opera’s 15,000th episode.

Stephen is reprising his first daytime role as Steve Olson, the brother of Julie Williams (Susan Seaforth Hayes). The last time Schnetzer appeared on a DAYS set was during his one and only run on the show from 1978 to 1980. Clearly, viewers will be in for some very emotional scenes when Steve returns to Salem to be there for his sister, Julie in her time of need. In real-life, Susan has been going through her own grief, having just lost Bill back on January 12th at the age of 98.

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Michael Fairman TV caught up with Stephen during the 15K episode celebration ceremony, and during a break from taping the gut-wrenching funeral scenes, to get his thoughts on being part of these highly-anticipated moments that will air later this year in December. Here’s what he shared with us below.

What has this been like for you to work with Susan Seaforth Hayes after all of these years?

STEPHEN: She’s a dream and she’s so bright. We ran lines yesterday and we ended up just visiting for about 45 minutes and just catching up and telling tales about each other’s career. She even dropped off the autobiography that she and Bill did. And being back here at DAYS, every time I turn a corner, there’s another familiar face. When I was on the show 40 more years ago, a bunch of the guys, played softball on a team together. This is really a trip down memory lane as I knew it would be.

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Taping Doug’s funeral must be a hard day for Susan. Are you checking in with her to help hold her up through this?

STEPHEN: I am and I’m checking in with Amy Shaughnessy (Susan’s assistant), and she’s holding her up more than anybody. We’re there for each other.

There will obviously be some major hankie-inducing moments when Steve comes back to Salem to console his sister.

STEPHEN: Oh, wait till you see it in December. It’s going to be great.

Were you surprised you got this call to come back to the show decades later?

STEPHEN: It was out of the blue! I was completely surprised. They should have called me decades ago! That’s what surprised me. When Another World went down, I thought I’d land somewhere else and it never happened. That was more of a surprise.

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Cass is such an identifiable character for you. As well, you and Linda Dano (ex-Felicia Gallant) are so synonymous together as best friends Cass and Felicia from Another World. When fans heard you were reprising your role as Steve Olson on DAYS, they are now hoping there will be more of you on the show to come.

STEPHEN: Steven Olson is a real “Cassian “character. I cut my teeth on Steve Olson and that’s how Cass was introduced. He was kind of a roguish charmer. And then when the character stuck for Another World, they rehabilitated me, and turned me into one of the shows heroes. And that’s what would’ve happened if I stayed as Steve Olson probably. So, Steve is the ‘pre-Cass’, Cass.

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As the story goes, you originally decided to leave Days of our Lives?

STEPHEN: I was never on contract. I was doing a day and a half a week and I got a Broadway play directed by Franco Zeffirelli starring Joan Plowright and Frank Finlay. I was able to it as I didn’t have to break a contract or anything. I cut loose and went back to New York for that.

How well did you get to know Bill Hayes during your first time around on DAYS?

STEPHEN: My first episode was with Bill and Susan, as her long lost brother coming into Salem. They were so good to me. They were so kind. I had been doing eight years of classical repertory theater, never been in front of a camera. I tell everybody, it took me longer than any other actor I’ve ever seen to get comfortable in front of a camera. And they were very supportive at that time in my career. Coming back to honor Bill now in 2024, and to be see Susan, I am just so happy to be here.

Looking forward to seeing the scenes between Stephen and Susan Seaforth Hayes come December and Doug’s funeral and surrounding episodes? Do you hope that DAYS might bring the character of Steve Olson back for a longer stay? Comment below.

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Days Of Our Lives

Matthew Ashford and Melissa Reeves Talk Return to DAYS for Doug’s Funeral, Susan Seaforth Hayes, and Their Enduring Friendship

Last week, Days of our Lives celebrated the taping of their 15,000th episode which is tentatively scheduled to air on December 3rd. The story will feature emotional and heart-tugging scenes of Doug Williams funeral and honor his portrayer, the beloved Bill Hayes, who passed away on January 12th at the age of 98.

While the actors, producers, and crew took a lunch time break to pose for some pictures and speak with the press, they knew they would have to get back to taping the funeral, which was going to make it a tough day, but also cathartic for all who loved Bill Hayes.

Several returns have thus far been announced including; Melissa Reeves reprising her signature role of Jennifer Horton (a part she first played in 1985), and Matthew Ashford as Jack Deveraux. Reeves had last appeared on the show back in 2021, and she was replaced by Emmy-winner Cady McClain in her absence when Jennifer was in storylines. In real-life, Melissa had moved full-time to Tennessee along with her husband, Scott Reeves (ex-DAYS, GH, Y&R). Now, and as previously reported, Reeves will first appear back on DAYS for the Thanksgiving episodes with the Hortons.

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Michael Fairman TV caught up with Matt and Melissa during the 15,000th episode celebration to get their take on: being back for these special episodes, how it has been working with and watching Susan Seaforth Hayes portray Julie’s grief over losing Doug, and how they have supported each other through the years. Check out what they shared below.

Melissa, you are back on the set of Days of our Lives for this very emotional and special moment in the series history. How does it feel?

MELISSA: Oh, my goodness. I am honored. I wouldn’t want to be anywhere else but to be here for Bill. He was like my real-life dance partner. He taught me how to ballroom dance. And to be here for Susan, of course, who’s just been our sweet hero this whole week. We’re just following her lead. She’s just been this incredibly strong example for us in the midst of this trial and season of her life. She is like just lifting us all up with her. It’s been incredible.

I was at Bill Hayes memorial service which was truly incredible and I know at the time you were in Tennessee. It was moving and celebratory of his life, all at the same time.

MELISSA: That’s all I have heard. I have to watch it on You Tube. They said it was just a real celebration of his life and I love that.

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This must be difficult for Susan Seaforth Hayes depicting the death of Doug, when she is still grieving the loss of her beloved husband. (Susan pictured above with the returning Stephen Schnetzer who plays her on-screen brother, Steve Olson).

MELISSA: I’m sure Susan has those moments at home by herself, but she’s so good at being a leader and leading all of us. We’re following her, you know, and she’s like, “This is how I want to feel today.” And we’re just going along with her, you know? It’s so sweet.

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How is it to see Matt Ashford again live and in-person?

MELISSA: You know, Matt and I can go years without talking, or seeing each other, and then the minute we see each other we’re chatting away.

MATT: Melissa was out on set doing a scene yesterday on the phone talking to a stage manager; as she was telling some really tough news on the phone. I’m like crying in the background, literally, I’m off-stage crying.

MELISSA: And then we get like back into normal life, and we’re like, okay, “What’s happening? What’s happening with this … or what’s happening with that?”

I had read, Melissa, that you were in touch with Matt about if there night be a possibility for you to reprise your role as Jennifer for these special episodes?

MELISSA: Yes. Well, Matt was like, “Hey! Would you want to come back? “And I was like, “Matt, you know, I would always come back. ”

MATT:  Every time I come here to Days of our Lives, they ask, “Where’s Missy? How’s Missy?” Everybody backstage says, “I miss her.” All of the crew is asking about her and saying, “It would be nice to see Missy. Nothing wrong with you Matt, but …”  They said, “Where is she?” I said, “She wants to come!”

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There are some beautiful photos of Missy and Bill and Susan thorough the years that I found. It just reminded me of just the deep and entrenched history we all have had with the show, personally and professionally.

MATT: Missy is roughly the age where Francis Reid (ex-Alice Horton) was when she started the show, which is just crazy.

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I’ve always said Missy was going to be the next generation Alice. Do you feel that Jennifer is the heir apparent matriarch of the Horton family?

MELISSA: Yes. I mean, this has been greatest blessing of my life, and that would be great. I told Ken Corday (executive producer, Days of our Lives) when I was 17 that this show would be my life. Ken always told me, “This is your home,” and I’ve always felt like that.

How have gotten through the scenes watching Susan Seaforth Hayes as Julie go through the loss of Doug?

MATT: Susan is bringing her best performance life for her and Bill. I mean, she’s a showbiz baby. She always has been one hundred percent, and she’s doing it for him, and this is who they’ve always been. So, you’re seeing this amazing performance colored by her life. She has her private life as Susan, but she has enough plugged into Julie that she’s done amazing work. The director, producers and writers are giving her room to live in these moments and it’s quite wonderful.

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Have you already broken down in tears during the taping?

MELISSA: Yesterday, but today’s taping of the actual funeral I think they want us to try and be just more celebratory.

MATT: I mean, it is a beautiful long life for Bill Hayes and his character of Doug Williams, and so it will be about that. Then, you get a bunch of us together in the church pews, and there’s going to be hijinks.

MELISSA: We all have been through the waves of grief. You have that awful cry and then all of a sudden you feel okay.  There are those family situations we are portraying where you’re like, “What do we do? What do we do now? You know, no one knows what to do. But, it’s so sweet. I’m looking forward to seeing how the scenes all turn out.

So, are you glad that Matt and Melissa are back for the 15K episode and Doug’s funeral? From what we can tell, it’s going to be quite an emotional journey for Days of our Lives fans, and especially the performance of Susan Seaforth Hayes, 

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Ron Carlivati Talks on Decision to Make Days of our Lives 15000th Episode About Doug’s Funeral, and Previews Chances for WGA Award

This week, Days of our Lives celebrated the taping of their 15,000th episode. In of it itself, that is an incredible accomplishment for the long-running soap opera currently streaming on Peacock.

However, this on set gathering was a bit different. Though the show is celebrating their achievement, they are also in the middle of taping scenes surrounding the death and the funeral of Doug Williams, played by the late Bill Hayes, who passed away on January 12th of this year at the age of 98.

As previously revealed many longtime favorites are back to honor Bill and the character of Doug including: Gloria Loring (Liz), Melissa Reeves (Jennifer), Matthew Ashford (Jack), Maree Cheatham (Marie), Victoria Konefal (Ciara) and Stephen Schnetzer (Steve) to name but a few.

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Michael Fairman TV was in attendance and spoke with Days of our Lives head writer, Ron Carlivati to gain some insight into how the 15,000 episode was crafted and the decision to honor the character of Doug Williams and Bill Hayes as its epicenter. In addition, Ron weighed-in on this Sunday’s April 14th WGA (Writers Guild of America) Awards, where he and his writing team are facing off with General Hospital for the daytime drama prize. Here’s what Ron shared below.

Was this your idea to make the 15,000th episode centered around Doug’s funeral and passing?

RON: It was. When you’re looking at it, and laying out the calendar for the whole year and you see 15,000 is coming up, we’re like, “What are we going to do?” And then, we got the news that Bill had passed away and something kind of clicked. I was like, “We should honor Doug on that show.” So then, we started to kind of build around that … when does he pass away? How does he pass away? Who could come back? You know, it’s a lot.  I’m very pleased with the returns that we got as there’s so much that you could do. We wanted everybody we could get. So, we put together a wish list and Janet Drucker (co-executive producer, Days of our Lives) made it happen.

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You have Melissa Reeves back as Jennifer, when the role was last played by Cady McClain. What has it meant to have Missy back for these shows?

RON: It was so nice to see Missy Reeves. I think Cady has done such a good job, but on the 15,000th episode to see Missy as Jennifer, it’s a big deal. So having her was great, and overall, the milestone was a big undertaking, because you want to live up to it. You want the 15,000th episode to be good. Now, it has a lot of real emotion that you’re playing. because for the cast and the crew they’re honoring Bill Hayes just as much as we’re honoring Doug Williams.

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Was it hard for you and the team to write this episode?

RON: Yes. I’ll tell you why it was hard to write.  When I wrote, for example, Asa’s (Phillip Carey) death on One Life to Live or Victor’s (John Aniston) on DAYS, Asa is a different type of character. Like, you could have characters going, “Oh! I’m glad he is dead.” You could have different points of view, but with Doug, you’re not having that. Every person loves this man. No one had a bad relationship with him. So, you’re challenge as a writer is how do you make it that not everybody’s saying the same thing and doing the same thing. And so, we tried to find ways to make the episode about all the familial relationships and yet, how do you make it about Doug and yet broaden the scope.

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I had spoken to Susan Seaforth Hayes (Julie), a week after Bill’s memorial, for an interview. She said that she felt very fortunate that you did include her on discussions of how you would tackle Doug’s passing. How did that conversation go?

RON: First, I attended Bill’s funeral, which was incredible. I said to so many people it was an emotional service, but it was hard to be sad at this. The guy had an incredible life and it was an incredible celebration. And so, you’re sitting there watching this knowing that you now have to write something similar. And how do you write something that lives up to what you just witnessed? I wanted to talk to Susan to get her thoughts about, you know, how much do you want this to be about keeping Bill separate from Doug. How comfortable are you sharing your grief. She was incredible to talk to. It was a great chat.

You’re in the middle of taping these major scenes for the 15,000 episode to air in December. How do you think it’s going? Have you seen any of the scenes?

RON:  I haven’t seeing anything. I mean, we were still making changes to the script up till this morning!

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The Writers Guild Awards are this Sunday, April 14th and once again this year there are two daytime drama nominees, General Hospital and Days of our Lives. How are you feeling about your chances this year?

RON: It is often just GH and us in the category. I’ve won three years in a row, so I’m kind of feeling like it’s their turn.

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What episodes did you submit for contention? If I recall, they had to do with Victor’s memorial.

RON: The episodes we submitted were centered around Victor’s funeral. I think one has story with Vivian (Louise Sorel). We had some fun stuff, we had some emotional stuff at Victor’s death, and I am pretty sure that our submission was three episodes right around that time.

Did you make the decision to go with those episodes because there was a mix of humor and drama?

RON: I like to have some humor, but it was also the funeral, then there’s Sarah (Linsey Godfrey) giving birth, and then Vivian’s crashing the reading of the will. So, we had a lot of fun and it’s hard sometimes to pick three that tell a story, as opposed to submitting for the Daytime Emmys, where the writing team only submits two shows. So, we shall see how it goes on Sunday.

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So, are you looking forward to the emotional 15,000th episode of Days of our Lives? Do you think DAYS will take home the WGA writing award for daytime dramas for the 4th year in a row? Comment below.

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