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Y&R’s Sharon Case, Mark Grossman & Jordi Vilasuso Talk Love and Betrayal in the Rey/Sharon/Adam Triangle

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This week on The Young and the Restless, Sharon (Sharon Case) and Adam’s (Mark Grossman) kiss took centerstage and went viral when a photo of the passionate moment was seen by Sharon’s husband, Rey (Jordi Vilasuso), and fiancée Chelsea (Melissa Claire Egan), and many more citizens of Genoa City!

That moment looks to be a game-changer.  Now what will Rey do? Will he continue to try to salvage his marriage to Sharon? Will wheelchair bound Chelsea, hatch a plan to payback Adam and Sharon? Will Adam and Sharon meet up for some dangerous liaisons? There’s so much to this story left to play out.

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In a new interview on The Michael Fairman Channel, Sharon Case, Mark Grossman and Jordi Vilasuso chatted candidly about their on-screen love triangle and more including: what happened when Mark auditioned for the key role of Adam, the character of Sharon’s battle with breast cancer, and who Sharon feels is Sharon Newman’s true love, Nick (Joshua Morrow) or Adam? Plus, the trio share their reactions to the news that their castmate, Sasha Calle (Lola) was tapped as the first Latina ‘Supergirl’ in the upcoming DC Universe film, The Flash.

During the conversation, Vilasuso said Rey was not blindsided by Adam and Sharon’s ongoing attraction: “Rey’s known for a long time, c’mon!  I had somebody on Twitter post all the videos on how long I’ve known about Adam and Sharon. (Laughs)  I had still had a beard on the show back then!  What’s he going to do?  I think this Adam sickness, this addiction, this pathology that he has, I think Rey hopes he can just arrest him and he will just go away for ever.  That’s playing in the back of my mind, like, ‘there’s no way Adam can keep up this behavior for much longer’.  Rey is crazy about Sharon. T here’s also some ego involved here, too of, ‘I got to be the guy here.  I can’t lose to this guy’.  But man, does Rey have a threshold for dealing with this stuff.  Remember, his (ex) wife had sex with his brother, and then she did it again, and now they are having a child together… and Rey was still able to move on.”

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Case clarified from her previous 25th anniversary interview with Fairman, just who is Sharon Newman’s ultimate love, Nick (Joshua Morrow) or Adam?  Case had stated Adam.  The actress explained:  “When you think about what the character’s have been through, the history of The Young and the Restless, how stories are usually told – and what I mean by all that is Nikki (Melody Thomas Scott) and Victor (Eric Braeden) have always been the “It” couple of the history of Y&R and they are very different.  They actually remind me more of Adam and Sharon then Nick and Sharon.  Nick turned out more to be the good son, while Adam was more in the image of his father, and it would be the obvious choice to guess that Nick and Sharon would be endgame.  I think soaps try to not go in the obvious way.  The two men that she has been married to, and were the biggest loves of her life, and both Victor’s kids, choosing between those that is why I said what I said, and why I think that’s true.  Sharon and Adam don’t have all of the pain, that Sharon and Nick have had from multiple cheatings and a loss of a child which is very hard for a couple to ever get past that.   I also think that Sharon and Nick are sort of together now anyways as co-parents and are such good friends.  They have a new relationship – they are not together in a romantic way – but their relationship is really great now and very full for what it is.”

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Grossman shared that knowing Chelsea has a history of being con-artist, that she could potentially pull some stunts on Adam and Sharon to keep them apart:  “That’s always in the back of his mind.  You know, maybe she will start to con Adam and maybe he might pick up on it, maybe he doesn’t pick up on it, but obviously it’s a really sad situation that Adam is in.  There’s a lot going on in Adam’s life. It’s unfortunate that Connor (his son) is not there as he is off to boarding school, and then Adam wasn’t there because he went to Sharon’s wedding to peek his head in, and Chelsea had her stroke.  So there’s a lot of guilt there.  I think it’s really frustrating to him that he can’t have a conversation with this woman – who is his fiancée – and this is his fault and he caused all this.  But there’s always the underlying pull from Sharon, and after they kiss there are a lot of conflicted feelings there.”

Watch the entire interview with Sharon, Mark and Jordi below.

Now weigh-in: Are you Team Rey or Team Adam? Who do you want Sharon to ultimately wind up with? Share your thoughts and theories in the comment section.

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#teamadam all the way.
Adam and Sharon belong together.
They have always supported and defendeded each other.
Their love is 100%.
It is time to reunite #Shadam

I agree with Sharon, Shadam is the next Niktor.

Hope Adam gets Sharon back. ❤️❤️❤️

Yes,yes Desylva! Rey is nice but not very exciting. Adam is so hot and that bad boy thing is irresistible on him. Plus, Chelsea has become more obnoxious in voice-over than in regular speech. Sharon’s risking everything here and since no one ever gives Adam a break, maybe Victor will support them. Unless devil boy Conner tries to sabotage Sharon again. We don’t need that!

Yes, both of these guys are really But I think Adam because you can see there’s a connection and there is a fire in their eyes. Definitely Adam. But I agree Rey is also a very handsome and sexy guy he needs a great sexy and intriguing lady for him. He needs that hot and heavy wild love with a gorgeous and mysterious character

I agree. Sharon has such a deep rooted love for Adam.
I want them together soooooooo bad!!!

So do i

I’m team Adam. Rey and sharon are boring together

#TEAMADAM hands down

For the sake of story, Adam, but in the real world she would be a fool not to choose Rey. I mean that’s one snack of a man.

Team Shadam! They have been apart way too long!

This is soooo redundant. If it’s not the deadly triangle, it’s Gramps Jack getting it on with sneaky, snaky young women.
I like neither Ray nor this Adam. Chronologically speaking, age and certain events are not in sync. I get it, it’s a soap. But Sharon looks her age—-and Mark has a baby face.
As far as Ray? He is too stiff—-he brings the “cop” mentality home. I had always hoped Nick and Sharon would get back together.

Now, Jack —–Please, writers, do not go down the uninteresting, pathetic old man/young woman path again. Do not make the “great”, undisputedly ( not) prudent Abbott look like a fool.
Jack must be more than a little stupid to believe he is so hot and charming, that even babies would drool all over him.
I will give Jack the benefit of the doubt, as he puts on a show to weed out Sally’s true intentions. No man or woman can be that dumb!!

What really bothers me, Celia, is Jack’s poor judgment with Sally. There has to be someone else in town besides a proven schemer who’s also patronizing and self-serving. If he’s chasing memories of Phyllis…that’s even more insulting.

TPTB always “reinvent” older characters. Why? —-to keep them relevant. However, we are dealing with much older adults who should know better than to fall for scheming, much younger women—as I said, it only makes Jack look like a fool—-the kind of fool into whom I’d love to smack some sense ….or take a very hot shower. EWWWW!!
The writers did the same thing with Victor time and again.
Chasing memories of Phyllis? Good one. At least, her breath doesn’t smell like formula.
I don’t like any storyline on Y&R —-my favorite soap needs a little push in the right direction.

Hey, how are you and family? Staying well I hope, despite all that white stuff you’ve been getting. I wonder if Jack in real life feels as foolish as he’s acting with his hand glued to that darn cradle. You would think they would have learned ssomething from the last fiasco. I think Jack is smitten with Sally because she reminds him of the younger Phyllis. I never felt he got over his “red” I don’t know how he can even look at her and Billy without wanting to throw up. Iam not saying they have to pair him with someone his own age, but at least someone a little closer to his own age, like Gloria although I don’t care for her and would not wish her on Jack. Am sure not looking to any love scenes between he and Sally, yuk! Well, thanks for letting me rant. Stay well!

There are so many defunct soaps that have actresses that could have been perfect with Peter Bergman.

Kassie DePaiva, Kristen Alfonso,Kelly Menaghan just off the top of my head.

When you think about the history of him and Jill how can he throw up at Billy & Phyllis? Jack forgave Billy the way John did.

Honestly I’m only liking Lilliam, Jack & Billy, Amanda and Imani/Anaya

I think Sally, the Abby baby story,Kyle shirking his son, Victor’s revenge, Vikki wanting Billy back is so been there done that blah.

They completely underuse/misuse Lauren, Michael, Kevin and Chloe. They’re the people who get dropped in as a side show.

The show is almost unwatchable.

I like Adam but in this triangle I am Team Rey. I love Jordi V. and I think he and Sharon are a terrific pairing. I was disappointed and amazed at Chelsea’s reaction to Adam’s return considering they were so devoted to each other, so that totally changed the dynamic of their relationship for me [and that marriage she was in made no sense and was a non-starter] … I still hold out for them to be together. That being said, Team Rey all the way – I hope he won’t give up on the marriage too soon.

Terrific interview with the three of them.

I agree. Team Rey. Let Adam work it out with Chelsea.

Team Rey, but I’d rather see him with someone who is more committed and really IN love with him. They have never been really romantic, more like brother and sister. Sharon and Mark may be a couple in real life and they may want to continue it on screen but I sure don’t. They deserve each other!

Team Adam no denying sharons pull towards Adam everyone sees it


Always wanted Sharon and Adam together. They have always had chemistry !!!!!!

In my opinion, only when Michael Muhney played the part, especially after they got married and they were out in the snow, and Sharon in her white fur coat.

Neither, its time for her and Nick. CANT STAND Adam, and Ray is sweet, but Nick is her forever. PHYLLIS needs to hook up with Adam, they are two of a kind schemers

Sharon needs to stay single for awhile. I can’t believe Adam and others have calls in Sharon to give advise to their love ones. And Sharon is as crazy as they come. And Nick is kind of goofy. And I’m sick of Abby, he’s never satisfied. And that storyline of looking for a serum donor is crazy too. .And another thing, Billy and Lily is a no no, she gave Cane a hard time but with Billy boy it’s a different story. Bring Cane back in the story please.

Mary Spence
Sorry, but I have to disagree. First of all Abby is a she and she’s not looking for serum but a sperm doner, which was before Devon stepped up. Iam not crazy about Billy and Lily, but I sure don’t want to see him back with Victoria, that man eater and it was Cane that gave Lily the hard time, remember the baby that we never saw?

Sharon knew she shouldn’t have Rey in the first place. Unfortunately Rey has had his world turn upside down again. He deserves better than this. If she had an ounce of loyalty in her, she would realize Rey has been there for her doing her crisis. She is always trying to justify Adam at anyone expense. What about her Daughter suffering from what Adam did to her as a baby. I know you have to forgive but who more important my daughter or Adam. Poor Chesla suffering too because of Adam chasing behind Sharon. I have watched this story from day one but my loyalty is fading.

The end game will always be Nick and Sharon ! Adam should have stayed dead when they fired Muhney. Been done with it and Phyllis should have moved to New York never to be seen again. Waste of salaries

I think sharon and rey should move to Florida try to work on there marriage Adam should never came back Adam should find a new therapist for Chelsea else where that doesn’t involve sharon

I am all in for Adam & Sharon! It is finally time that these two be together! Adam & Sharon is the story worth watching and rooting for: sweet and sexy, showing the many layers and sides of love and romance! Team Adam AND #Shadam! Reunite #Shadam!

Am team Chelsea all the way Chelsea is the one for Adam and Connor will hate his father for ever

I think if Chelsea had a brain in her head she would dump Adam. She knows he’s got the hots for Sharon, so why keep beating a dead horse? She should take Conner and go live her life, find someone who really wants her. Wonder how he’d feel if she went chasing after Nick again. I’d love seeing Nick with anyone but crazy Phyllis.

No offense to Grossman, but he is not “Adam” —something is missing since he became Adam; he almost seems to be too whiny and needy.
That being said, recast Adam and I’ll be on board team Shadam.
(While on the subject of recasting….. The actor who plays Billy doesn’t have what it takes to play the part).

Agreed and agreed!! No one will ever compare to Muhney’s Adam.
As far as Thompson?—-I said the same from the first day he showed up in GC as Billy—-likewise, no one can replace Billy Miller. YUM!!
Bring back Daniel gor Lily–
Also, bring back Kemo ( who must be approaching fifty) as a reminder of Jack’s real age. LOL.

Ah Celia, every time I see Billy Miller mentioned, I practically swoon. He was — and IS — the only true spirit of Billy Abbott. I’ve never gotten the vaguest hint of playful, adorable flakiness from JT. He just comes across as humorless and, frankly, arrogant. Remember when Billy M. would squeeze Kevin’s cheek and call him “my little chipmunk.” Oh Billy, where are you when we need you?

Yeah, Soaphound—Billy seems like a sweet dream now—-he was the show!!
I’m a good girl ( I think(–LOL—madly in love with my husband—but, Soaphound, my heart always skipped a beat whenever he appeared.
Then, that idiotic Drew/Jason business on GH was the lowest of the low. Prince Burton wanted his job back and Billy was flushed down the toilet.
Back to GC—-I never liked Chelsea; that’s a known fact—wishy washy personality, but the right age for Adam.
Sharon is old enough to have given birth to Mark—-sorry guys—-it’s a soap, but the age factor ( that BIG of a difference) has never sat well with me. But, who cares, right?
I guess I’m stuck on Sharon( whom I do like) with Nick, as lovers. This was the first couple who stirred my tween heart and senses. I was so awed by their love.
I’d like to see Adam and Sally get together—-imagine that, Soaphound!! Lies, imbrogli, deception and cat-fights.

And you know what else, Celia…why was no woman ever pursuing Drew after he and Sam split? One of the sexiest guys on TV had no “lustees” besides you and I? (In a partnerless world, of course). Drew & Franco and Drew & Curtis had more sparks than Sam I Am anyway. I just thought it was odd.

Well, to be fair, Drew was understandably preoccupied with his son dying of brain cancer. And after that, he got thrown into the middle of this whole thing with the Shiloh cult, Whiny Heiny and how that all goes back to when he & Jason got kidnapped for some mad scientist’s experiment…. which eventually got him killed (or so we were led to believe. He’s not in Hell… that much I can tell you.)

That doesn’t leave a lot of room for a “social life” unfortunately. Might have been logical if he & Kim had re-connected over their mutual grief over Oscar, but she only had eyes for Julian Jerome. And then -for no reason that made any sense whatsoever – Frodd with Drew’s memories implanted (or “Drodd” for short).

And then Drew & Kim were both disappeared.

Sorry I took my time answering you, Soaphound—–I didn’t mean to be rude.
School is in full session now ( in person classes), so, life picked up the pace—-busy!!
It WAS odd that “Drew” was left stagnating, as far as women are concerned—-however, after reading Satan’s take on it, he makes a lot of sense.
I only wish and hope Billy will resurrect and return to PC.
Franco is dead—-sad!! I realize many were/are not fans, but I liked the actor.
Why isn’t Peter dead? What is in store for him?I cringe each time the camera’s “eye” is fixed on his “not-so-scary” face…..if that’s the intention.
The close-up shots turn my stomach. TPTB are failing miserably, if they think Peter’s face is that of Beelzebub!!!!!! He just does not have the IT factor. No Dracula, he!! Yuck!!

Billy A can’t be the goofy Billy that Miller played. His daughter was hit by a car and died and that changed him forever. JT as Billy is still haunted by the loss of Delia and while he had found a way to find happiness Delia’s death is always with him. If he behaved as the goof ball he’d be disrespecting Delia and her place on the show. Well done JT!

Team Rey. Honor your wedding vows!! Rey is a really good guy.

You said that Rey is a really good guy and that’s part of the problem. He’s also a man, not a doormat nor another word I won’t use here. He’s never going to change Sharon’s feelings from Adam to himself, and he’s letting her make a fool out if him. I think he should take what little pride he’s got left, throw it in a suitcase with his clothes and tell her adious!

Isn’t it odd, Violet, that Rey and sister Lola are in the same boat? Fighting ghosts of their partners’ past loves that aren’t past at all. Lola wasn’t a doormat. Rey shouldn’t be one either. Move on!

So right Soaphound. Rey’s just too damn nice and he’s living in la la land if he thinks there will be some miracle changing how she feels about Adam as compared to how she feels about HIM.


Team Adam

I so want Sharon & Adam together ! For years I wanted Sharon & Nick back together. Then when Nick & Phyllis got back together again that was the last straw and I’m over it . The chemistry between Adam & Sharon is off the charts with the sexual tension . Poor Rey he just cant win .

I’m with you, Catherine. When Sharon looks at Adam, even I start getting heated up. And if I have to listen to any more of Chelsea’s histrionic voice-overs, I’ll need a nurse!

I believe Chadam was better. I believe Rey deserves someone madly in love with him so I vote neither.

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Stephen Schnetzer Talks On His Return to Days of our Lives and Working with Susan Seaforth Hayes In Emotional Episodes

Who says you can’t go home again? In the case of Another World favorite, Stephen Schnetzer (ex-Cass Winthrop), he has proven that it is true, and you can go back to your soap roots and where it all started for you.

Last week on April 11th, Schnetzer, along with several other key returns were on set at Days of our Lives taping all-new episodes of the Peacock streaming soap opera, centering on the funeral of Doug Williams (the late Bill Hayes), and as part of the iconic soap opera’s 15,000th episode.

Stephen is reprising his first daytime role as Steve Olson, the brother of Julie Williams (Susan Seaforth Hayes). The last time Schnetzer appeared on a DAYS set was during his one and only run on the show from 1978 to 1980. Clearly, viewers will be in for some very emotional scenes when Steve returns to Salem to be there for his sister, Julie in her time of need. In real-life, Susan has been going through her own grief, having just lost Bill back on January 12th at the age of 98.

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Michael Fairman TV caught up with Stephen during the 15K episode celebration ceremony, and during a break from taping the gut-wrenching funeral scenes, to get his thoughts on being part of these highly-anticipated moments that will air later this year in December. Here’s what he shared with us below.

What has this been like for you to work with Susan Seaforth Hayes after all of these years?

STEPHEN: She’s a dream and she’s so bright. We ran lines yesterday and we ended up just visiting for about 45 minutes and just catching up and telling tales about each other’s career. She even dropped off the autobiography that she and Bill did. And being back here at DAYS, every time I turn a corner, there’s another familiar face. When I was on the show 40 more years ago, a bunch of the guys, played softball on a team together. This is really a trip down memory lane as I knew it would be.

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Taping Doug’s funeral must be a hard day for Susan. Are you checking in with her to help hold her up through this?

STEPHEN: I am and I’m checking in with Amy Shaughnessy (Susan’s assistant), and she’s holding her up more than anybody. We’re there for each other.

There will obviously be some major hankie-inducing moments when Steve comes back to Salem to console his sister.

STEPHEN: Oh, wait till you see it in December. It’s going to be great.

Were you surprised you got this call to come back to the show decades later?

STEPHEN: It was out of the blue! I was completely surprised. They should have called me decades ago! That’s what surprised me. When Another World went down, I thought I’d land somewhere else and it never happened. That was more of a surprise.

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Cass is such an identifiable character for you. As well, you and Linda Dano (ex-Felicia Gallant) are so synonymous together as best friends Cass and Felicia from Another World. When fans heard you were reprising your role as Steve Olson on DAYS, they are now hoping there will be more of you on the show to come.

STEPHEN: Steven Olson is a real “Cassian “character. I cut my teeth on Steve Olson and that’s how Cass was introduced. He was kind of a roguish charmer. And then when the character stuck for Another World, they rehabilitated me, and turned me into one of the shows heroes. And that’s what would’ve happened if I stayed as Steve Olson probably. So, Steve is the ‘pre-Cass’, Cass.

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As the story goes, you originally decided to leave Days of our Lives?

STEPHEN: I was never on contract. I was doing a day and a half a week and I got a Broadway play directed by Franco Zeffirelli starring Joan Plowright and Frank Finlay. I was able to it as I didn’t have to break a contract or anything. I cut loose and went back to New York for that.

How well did you get to know Bill Hayes during your first time around on DAYS?

STEPHEN: My first episode was with Bill and Susan, as her long lost brother coming into Salem. They were so good to me. They were so kind. I had been doing eight years of classical repertory theater, never been in front of a camera. I tell everybody, it took me longer than any other actor I’ve ever seen to get comfortable in front of a camera. And they were very supportive at that time in my career. Coming back to honor Bill now in 2024, and to be see Susan, I am just so happy to be here.

Looking forward to seeing the scenes between Stephen and Susan Seaforth Hayes come December and Doug’s funeral and surrounding episodes? Do you hope that DAYS might bring the character of Steve Olson back for a longer stay? Comment below.

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Matthew Ashford and Melissa Reeves Talk Return to DAYS for Doug’s Funeral, Susan Seaforth Hayes, and Their Enduring Friendship

Last week, Days of our Lives celebrated the taping of their 15,000th episode which is tentatively scheduled to air on December 3rd. The story will feature emotional and heart-tugging scenes of Doug Williams funeral and honor his portrayer, the beloved Bill Hayes, who passed away on January 12th at the age of 98.

While the actors, producers, and crew took a lunch time break to pose for some pictures and speak with the press, they knew they would have to get back to taping the funeral, which was going to make it a tough day, but also cathartic for all who loved Bill Hayes.

Several returns have thus far been announced including; Melissa Reeves reprising her signature role of Jennifer Horton (a part she first played in 1985), and Matthew Ashford as Jack Deveraux. Reeves had last appeared on the show back in 2021, and she was replaced by Emmy-winner Cady McClain in her absence when Jennifer was in storylines. In real-life, Melissa had moved full-time to Tennessee along with her husband, Scott Reeves (ex-DAYS, GH, Y&R). Now, and as previously reported, Reeves will first appear back on DAYS for the Thanksgiving episodes with the Hortons.

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Michael Fairman TV caught up with Matt and Melissa during the 15,000th episode celebration to get their take on: being back for these special episodes, how it has been working with and watching Susan Seaforth Hayes portray Julie’s grief over losing Doug, and how they have supported each other through the years. Check out what they shared below.

Melissa, you are back on the set of Days of our Lives for this very emotional and special moment in the series history. How does it feel?

MELISSA: Oh, my goodness. I am honored. I wouldn’t want to be anywhere else but to be here for Bill. He was like my real-life dance partner. He taught me how to ballroom dance. And to be here for Susan, of course, who’s just been our sweet hero this whole week. We’re just following her lead. She’s just been this incredibly strong example for us in the midst of this trial and season of her life. She is like just lifting us all up with her. It’s been incredible.

I was at Bill Hayes memorial service which was truly incredible and I know at the time you were in Tennessee. It was moving and celebratory of his life, all at the same time.

MELISSA: That’s all I have heard. I have to watch it on You Tube. They said it was just a real celebration of his life and I love that.

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This must be difficult for Susan Seaforth Hayes depicting the death of Doug, when she is still grieving the loss of her beloved husband. (Susan pictured above with the returning Stephen Schnetzer who plays her on-screen brother, Steve Olson).

MELISSA: I’m sure Susan has those moments at home by herself, but she’s so good at being a leader and leading all of us. We’re following her, you know, and she’s like, “This is how I want to feel today.” And we’re just going along with her, you know? It’s so sweet.

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How is it to see Matt Ashford again live and in-person?

MELISSA: You know, Matt and I can go years without talking, or seeing each other, and then the minute we see each other we’re chatting away.

MATT: Melissa was out on set doing a scene yesterday on the phone talking to a stage manager; as she was telling some really tough news on the phone. I’m like crying in the background, literally, I’m off-stage crying.

MELISSA: And then we get like back into normal life, and we’re like, okay, “What’s happening? What’s happening with this … or what’s happening with that?”

I had read, Melissa, that you were in touch with Matt about if there night be a possibility for you to reprise your role as Jennifer for these special episodes?

MELISSA: Yes. Well, Matt was like, “Hey! Would you want to come back? “And I was like, “Matt, you know, I would always come back. ”

MATT:  Every time I come here to Days of our Lives, they ask, “Where’s Missy? How’s Missy?” Everybody backstage says, “I miss her.” All of the crew is asking about her and saying, “It would be nice to see Missy. Nothing wrong with you Matt, but …”  They said, “Where is she?” I said, “She wants to come!”

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There are some beautiful photos of Missy and Bill and Susan thorough the years that I found. It just reminded me of just the deep and entrenched history we all have had with the show, personally and professionally.

MATT: Missy is roughly the age where Francis Reid (ex-Alice Horton) was when she started the show, which is just crazy.

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I’ve always said Missy was going to be the next generation Alice. Do you feel that Jennifer is the heir apparent matriarch of the Horton family?

MELISSA: Yes. I mean, this has been greatest blessing of my life, and that would be great. I told Ken Corday (executive producer, Days of our Lives) when I was 17 that this show would be my life. Ken always told me, “This is your home,” and I’ve always felt like that.

How have gotten through the scenes watching Susan Seaforth Hayes as Julie go through the loss of Doug?

MATT: Susan is bringing her best performance life for her and Bill. I mean, she’s a showbiz baby. She always has been one hundred percent, and she’s doing it for him, and this is who they’ve always been. So, you’re seeing this amazing performance colored by her life. She has her private life as Susan, but she has enough plugged into Julie that she’s done amazing work. The director, producers and writers are giving her room to live in these moments and it’s quite wonderful.

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Have you already broken down in tears during the taping?

MELISSA: Yesterday, but today’s taping of the actual funeral I think they want us to try and be just more celebratory.

MATT: I mean, it is a beautiful long life for Bill Hayes and his character of Doug Williams, and so it will be about that. Then, you get a bunch of us together in the church pews, and there’s going to be hijinks.

MELISSA: We all have been through the waves of grief. You have that awful cry and then all of a sudden you feel okay.  There are those family situations we are portraying where you’re like, “What do we do? What do we do now? You know, no one knows what to do. But, it’s so sweet. I’m looking forward to seeing how the scenes all turn out.

So, are you glad that Matt and Melissa are back for the 15K episode and Doug’s funeral? From what we can tell, it’s going to be quite an emotional journey for Days of our Lives fans, and especially the performance of Susan Seaforth Hayes, 

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Ron Carlivati Talks on Decision to Make Days of our Lives 15000th Episode About Doug’s Funeral, and Previews Chances for WGA Award

This week, Days of our Lives celebrated the taping of their 15,000th episode. In of it itself, that is an incredible accomplishment for the long-running soap opera currently streaming on Peacock.

However, this on set gathering was a bit different. Though the show is celebrating their achievement, they are also in the middle of taping scenes surrounding the death and the funeral of Doug Williams, played by the late Bill Hayes, who passed away on January 12th of this year at the age of 98.

As previously revealed many longtime favorites are back to honor Bill and the character of Doug including: Gloria Loring (Liz), Melissa Reeves (Jennifer), Matthew Ashford (Jack), Maree Cheatham (Marie), Victoria Konefal (Ciara) and Stephen Schnetzer (Steve) to name but a few.

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Michael Fairman TV was in attendance and spoke with Days of our Lives head writer, Ron Carlivati to gain some insight into how the 15,000 episode was crafted and the decision to honor the character of Doug Williams and Bill Hayes as its epicenter. In addition, Ron weighed-in on this Sunday’s April 14th WGA (Writers Guild of America) Awards, where he and his writing team are facing off with General Hospital for the daytime drama prize. Here’s what Ron shared below.

Was this your idea to make the 15,000th episode centered around Doug’s funeral and passing?

RON: It was. When you’re looking at it, and laying out the calendar for the whole year and you see 15,000 is coming up, we’re like, “What are we going to do?” And then, we got the news that Bill had passed away and something kind of clicked. I was like, “We should honor Doug on that show.” So then, we started to kind of build around that … when does he pass away? How does he pass away? Who could come back? You know, it’s a lot.  I’m very pleased with the returns that we got as there’s so much that you could do. We wanted everybody we could get. So, we put together a wish list and Janet Drucker (co-executive producer, Days of our Lives) made it happen.

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You have Melissa Reeves back as Jennifer, when the role was last played by Cady McClain. What has it meant to have Missy back for these shows?

RON: It was so nice to see Missy Reeves. I think Cady has done such a good job, but on the 15,000th episode to see Missy as Jennifer, it’s a big deal. So having her was great, and overall, the milestone was a big undertaking, because you want to live up to it. You want the 15,000th episode to be good. Now, it has a lot of real emotion that you’re playing. because for the cast and the crew they’re honoring Bill Hayes just as much as we’re honoring Doug Williams.

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Was it hard for you and the team to write this episode?

RON: Yes. I’ll tell you why it was hard to write.  When I wrote, for example, Asa’s (Phillip Carey) death on One Life to Live or Victor’s (John Aniston) on DAYS, Asa is a different type of character. Like, you could have characters going, “Oh! I’m glad he is dead.” You could have different points of view, but with Doug, you’re not having that. Every person loves this man. No one had a bad relationship with him. So, you’re challenge as a writer is how do you make it that not everybody’s saying the same thing and doing the same thing. And so, we tried to find ways to make the episode about all the familial relationships and yet, how do you make it about Doug and yet broaden the scope.

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I had spoken to Susan Seaforth Hayes (Julie), a week after Bill’s memorial, for an interview. She said that she felt very fortunate that you did include her on discussions of how you would tackle Doug’s passing. How did that conversation go?

RON: First, I attended Bill’s funeral, which was incredible. I said to so many people it was an emotional service, but it was hard to be sad at this. The guy had an incredible life and it was an incredible celebration. And so, you’re sitting there watching this knowing that you now have to write something similar. And how do you write something that lives up to what you just witnessed? I wanted to talk to Susan to get her thoughts about, you know, how much do you want this to be about keeping Bill separate from Doug. How comfortable are you sharing your grief. She was incredible to talk to. It was a great chat.

You’re in the middle of taping these major scenes for the 15,000 episode to air in December. How do you think it’s going? Have you seen any of the scenes?

RON:  I haven’t seeing anything. I mean, we were still making changes to the script up till this morning!

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The Writers Guild Awards are this Sunday, April 14th and once again this year there are two daytime drama nominees, General Hospital and Days of our Lives. How are you feeling about your chances this year?

RON: It is often just GH and us in the category. I’ve won three years in a row, so I’m kind of feeling like it’s their turn.

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What episodes did you submit for contention? If I recall, they had to do with Victor’s memorial.

RON: The episodes we submitted were centered around Victor’s funeral. I think one has story with Vivian (Louise Sorel). We had some fun stuff, we had some emotional stuff at Victor’s death, and I am pretty sure that our submission was three episodes right around that time.

Did you make the decision to go with those episodes because there was a mix of humor and drama?

RON: I like to have some humor, but it was also the funeral, then there’s Sarah (Linsey Godfrey) giving birth, and then Vivian’s crashing the reading of the will. So, we had a lot of fun and it’s hard sometimes to pick three that tell a story, as opposed to submitting for the Daytime Emmys, where the writing team only submits two shows. So, we shall see how it goes on Sunday.


So, are you looking forward to the emotional 15,000th episode of Days of our Lives? Do you think DAYS will take home the WGA writing award for daytime dramas for the 4th year in a row? Comment below.

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