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Another Talker With Anemic Ratings! The Meredith Vieira Show To Get Cancelled? Wouldn't A New Soap Serve Up Better Daytime TV?

Photo Credit: Kathy Hutchins

Photo Credit: Kathy Hutchins

While networks, cablers, and syndicators continue to assault the daytime audience with one talk show after another, one lifestyle series retrending after another, there are only a handful that continue to take hold in the market and flourish, while the continuation of new talkers seemingly end up being canned!

Last month, we learned that Tyra Banks walked out on her own talk show, FABLife, which has delivered poor ratings and has not helped to bolster General Hospital, who could use a nice lead-in and lead-out to continue to drive eyeballs to it, since there is no longer an ABC Daytime programming block.

Now comes word via a report from Page Six that Meredith Vieira’s talker, The Merdeith Vieira Show is about to be cancelled.  They report that, “The talk show is telling reps of celebrity guests that it will be canceled, and the plug will be pulled in March.  The news comes after the network had ­already tinkered with Vieira’s format in an ­effort to boost ratings during its second season, but it hasn’t helped.  The show debuted in its new format in September with a 0.8 household rating, down 50 percent from its first-season premiere.”

The Meredith Vieira Show is currently on hiatus for two weeks for the holidays. Production will resume in January with no announcement regarding a 3rd season having been made.

So this brings up these points:  We all know soaps are much so more expensive to produce, and very difficult to upkeep, and traditionally have had to be on five days a week.  We also know it’s difficult to make soaps revelant again to the majority of the mainstream, and the younger female demographic who has tuned out to soaps over recent years.  But still, when soap fans and/or the female demo sit on the sidelines and continue to watch one celebrity guest hit all the numerous talkers in a span of two days pushing their latest product, is that truly more interesting programing than a soap? It doesn’t seem to be proving it in the ratings, either!

Will we ever see the day when one of the networks such as ABC or NBC will even try to put on a new or revitalized half-hour soap ( or even two half-hours soaps to fill the hour time block, or even an hour soap), when primetime clearly is producing series and pilots that are extra soapy? What about taking a lead from CBS’s successful The Bold and the Beautiful?   What about coming up with a continuing story that can reach the younger demos and interest them by utilizing social media in the most inventive and intergrated way with the storytelling?

So, share your thoughts on the daytime wars …. the state of talkers vs. soap operas, and if you think any network programming executive will ever venture, or entertain the notion of putting on soap-type format in the daypart again?

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su0000
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su0000

A new soap would be great but- There are no soap writers !!! The pool of soap writers is near empty and the young vibrant in the 21st century writers see soap writing as obsolete. What we have are senior citizens writing soap by the same old 80 scripts, that is what they know, the 80’s that is how and what they write… It’s all the same from decades past, they don’t move forward into new writing, new formatting, new anything. And, yes the writers are older; Jill Farren Phelps= 65 Jean Passanante= 63 Chuck Pratt jr= 60 Bradley P.… Read more »

su0000
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su0000

ohh and before I get jumped..
I did not mean they are old like in old, they are old writers, been writing since the 80’s/whatever.. The soaps need young writers, 30-40yrs old, to bring the soaps out of the 80’s and into the 21st century, and what we have can not do that.

Trophy Lady
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Trophy Lady

Su, I’m in that 30-40 year old category that you speak of, and I so strongly disagree with you. There isn’t anything wrong with the “older” writers continuing to write CLASSIC soap. That’s the problem — so many of them are trying to write trash that is for the young audience they so desire, but guess what? There’s no LOYALTY from the younger audience. Young people simply don’t care to be loyal to anything. If anything, should they bring in younger writers, then they need to work under older, more established writers in order to learn the CLASSIC style of… Read more »

Phil
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Phil

I would love to write a daytime soap! My first choice would be to write for DAYS, but I am all for writing something new. Personally, I think it’s time for daytime to step it up some and incorporate social media more! Fan input is key!

su0000
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su0000

hi Trophy Lady. the writers are from eras past.. the soaps need new young blood, to get out of the 80’s story telling. You grew up with the soap, but the new audience needed most have not. And yes, the people needed to keep soaps alive, are Netflix binge watchers, their 21st century media is cable and movies that have next to nothing to do with love couples and their triangles and love problem in tv and movies, that’s from grandmas time, to them. The media has drastically changed, evolved since these writers were writing soaps.. I’d bet they do… Read more »

louisa
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louisa

Good writers come in all shapes, sizes and ages, It is about creativity and talent. Not age. 66-year-old Julian Fellowes writes about young women in 1912 England and wins an Emmy for Downton Abbey. And at 34, Gennifer Hutchison penned the famous “I am the one who knocks” monologue for Breaking Bad’s 50-something Walter White.

Rose
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Rose

I don’t think good story telling is ever passé, for any generation. It’s a shame the networks didn’t seem to invest in building a “farm team” of daytime soap writers like baseball teams develop players. So now they are left with no one to carry the torch that still include the cornerstone of daytime soaps…family, community and relationships. That doesn’t mean daytime doesn’t need to refresh ideas while keeping to the spirit of this genre…which seems to be a “kinder, gentler” mentality as opposed to prime time which includes way more gratuitous violence and really disturbed people who act out… Read more »

CeeCee
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CeeCee

I would write, su. Better yet, Jimh is the best candidate for the job. How about it, Jimmy? What say you?
You would be great yourself, su. You do know all the angles around a good story, no? Later.

rebecca1
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rebecca1

Su..If I recall you loved the online version of OLTL. I thought it was beyond crap. Throwing in the word shit every other sentence also impressed you. Soaps are a genre. They’re continuing stories. GH is continuing from the 80s and before. The whole joy of watching a daytime soap is because it IS different from other forms of media. I loved the mob stories…in The SOPRANOS. It couldnt get more gritty than the prison drama OZ. It couldn’t get more sexual, raunchy or more hilarious than CALIFORNICATION. I love GAME OF THRONES, THE LEFTOVERS, RAY DONOVAN and many others…… Read more »

CeeCee
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CeeCee

@Rebecca1
Get off of my cloud. Do not click on my personal space. I want to receive nothing from you on my inbox. Please refrain from doing so. Click on your own ‘reply’ and stay away from mine. Happy New Year. Try, anyway.

su0000
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su0000

hi rebecca1. No, I was never a lover of OLTL.. I did watch but was not my fav. It is not about soap fans.. It is about new soap that would get no more viewers than the soap fans now, a small about viewers and soaps not evolving to get new viewers… IF there were to be new viewers to keep the soaps alive, they would be tuning in now. They are not tuning in because they don’t want to watch these soaps. If they did the numbers would rise and rise, they are not. Soaps are old fashioned and… Read more »

rebecca1
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rebecca1

Lol Su. Okay. We’re never going to agree on this but I always appreciate your response and humorous posts! 🙂

rebecca1
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rebecca1

CeeCee.. I never reply personally to you. I did this time in the hope you’d get my message. I’m sick of this animosity. Too many real problems in life for us to get crazed over stuff like this.

Peace and Happy New Year!

Stephanie
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Stephanie

I would love to see another soap added to the daytime lineup. You would think since the talk shows essentially pay their audience to attend (gift giveaways), that the money could be put to better use in a soap. It’s been said that the soaps used to pull in so much money that they funded the night shows; too bad it doesn’t work the other way around. Truly miss the #ATWT cast.

KansasGuest
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KansasGuest

I think ABC should try a half-hour soap format, like B&B. It would be cheaper to produce, & have a smaller cast. EDGE OF NIGHT & CAPITOL were half-hour formats IIRC, & they were not boring. If they don’t want to reinvent the wheel, they could try transitioning one of the online soaps to daytime since the audience would be built-in. I know they’ll get a lot of flack from the OLTL & AMC fans. But, those soaps are still tied up in court w/Prospect Park.

CeeCee
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CeeCee

Great idea!

Elizabeth
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Elizabeth

And the entire cast could come from a pared down GH!

Eunice
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Eunice

Could you also please get rid of “Fab life” and “The View”. They are 2 really horrible shows.

JUDY K
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JUDY K

RIGHT ON…CANNOT BELIEVE ANYONE WASTES THEIR TIME TO WATCH THESE SHOWS!

Patricio
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Patricio

Fa life is an imbarisment to ABC ! The view is a trainwreak !

lovesam1122
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lovesam1122

I pretty much tuned her out when she put all those talking points on at the beginning, not interested in anymore of that junk, it ruined her show for me

Ray
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Ray

It seems every talk show is trying to copy the format of “The View” and “The Talk” Last week, I watched seconds of the talk show with Loni Love/Tamar Braxton. Painful. Then there is the Tyra Banks fiasco talk show. Meredith changed her format to include Lance Bass, but it came across as more of a copycat of the other shows. Here is an idea. Create a new 30-minute soap opera and follow the same business plan as “Bold and Beautiful,” a huge success in other countries. I would love to see the show tape in New York and have… Read more »

CeeCee
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CeeCee

I do agree with your observations, Ray, except that THE TALK is not an original format, as you indicate. It too, copied THE VIEW, which has been the leader for twenty years. THE TALK is the biggest copycat…..to the letter; literally. But, I just can’t warm up to that show.
And, speaking of game shows…. I agree. I am crazy about the passe’ shows. I DVR most shows on BUZZR TV every night….my favorite? SUPER PASSWORD.

Timmm
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Timmm

Cee, there isnt a brick close enough to my TV when Sheryl Underwood comes on The Talk! She is one of the most annoying people on TV! I remember when Steve Burton announced he would be on Y&R and made an appearance on The Talk. When he came out she “Mounted” him and screamed for about five minutes. It was disgusting and he seemed so uncomfortable!

CeeCee
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CeeCee

@Timmm.
Exactly. I was going to specifically name names, but then I changed my mind. Cheryl thinks she’s funny. I don’t really watch….albeit I have caught several eps. She just ‘hogs’ guests as they come through greeting the panelists. She’s another one with the personal sexual innuendoes. I am no prude because we all make them, but, we do not get personal. That is do base.
Then, there’s Whoopi with her ‘vibrator’ experiences. …..thing is, I LOVE Whoopi, but, I do not like hearing about her ‘dates’ with her vibrator.

jimbo
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jimbo

the original PASSWORD was the best with the lightning round popping out of the desk and SMART stars. amble on over to YouTube and watch the shows with elizabeth montgomery.

Abruzzfan
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Abruzzfan

@CeeCee – I agree 100%! Happy Newer Year!

Timmm
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Timmm

Ray, you make a good point, why not sell these soaps to other countries. American TV adopts some foreign shows and or their ideas. Theres money in exporting our TV shows, for sure.

Lou Piikes
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Lou Piikes

Foreign countries don’t won’t to pay thousands of dollars dubbing a a 250 episode soap opera. It would help if American soap had a hiatus. The networks were to lazy are didn’t care enough to change the format. Cable show would love to rerun our soaps. But their is no beginning middle or end so its hard to know where to begin.

nicholas
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nicholas

Quite a number of soaps from the states have been sold to foreign countries . Santa Barbara , Young and restless , Bold and Beautiful , Days , Another World , Sunset Beach , General hospital , Passions , Guiding light , All my children , One life to live have all at one point been broadcast in some countries internationally . Many of these soaps were cancelled in some international countries due to low ratings . Many of these countries caught up late on the soap genre and many of these soaps didn’t screen from the beginning . Currently… Read more »

Lou Piikes
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Lou Piikes

A new soap will suffice. But is has to be different format than the five day a week without a hiatus. Daytime has to change in order to attract younger viewers.

Timmm
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Timmm

Lou, you bring up a great point and discussed it on one of your replies. Soaps need to adjust to the times and yes, have seasons. It give the actors free time to do other projects and saves networks money. Then maybe we can shop these shows oversees.

James
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James

Limited run daily soaps have been sellable for years. Have them run for as long as only 13 to 20 weeks with a complete beginning, middle and end.

shana kay
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shana kay

All the talk shows are the same and we’re sick of them, they all have the same stars on them to push the new movies. Leave Kelly and Michael and The View where they are and give us a soap after General Hospital. It would get watched, I tune to NCIS or Bones after GH is done, and we don’t watch any normal programing till 4 when the local news is on. Talk shows get pretty boring after all, I tried watching Meridith, as I liked her on The View, but not on her own, it just didn’t do it… Read more »

Tad
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Tad

Forget a new soap. I’m waiting to hear if Days of Our Lives will be renewed beyond September 2016.

Linda
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Linda

I am not surprised Meredith is getting the axe as the show isnt very good in my opinion. Katie Couric had a better show. A new soap would be nice but I doubt if ABC will go with that. They could have a re-run hour showing classic AMC and OLTL. How much would that affect their budget?

Joel
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Joel

ABC, CBS and NBC will never produce a new soap.

Sue
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Sue

As an advid soap fan I will continue to boycott ABC. I’m a 58 yr old college educated woman who’se watched the soaps my entire life. Who do they think is in the work force spending money on tech for their kids. I’m not interested in another talk/cook/lifestyle show when I get home after a hard days work I want to escape for a while.

Llanviewer717
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Llanviewer717

Very well said.

JUDY K
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JUDY K

TOTALLY AGREE…NOT AT ALL INTERESTED IN ANOTHER TALK/COOK/LIFESTYLE SHOW!!!

jimbo
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jimbo

Amen, sister!

Jimh(leave it to beaver)
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Jimh(leave it to beaver)

Yes…a new soap: ” EVERDAY PEOPLE!”…When wealthy Gordan Bennett finally awakens from his coma, will he accuse his society wife Elizabeth of attempted murder…what caused these mysterious blackouts Caroline Marshall have been having that made her drive her car off the road resulting in her sister Julia’s miscarriage…why did Steven Grant really return to Bently Falls after serving five years in prison for a murder he didnt committ…will Alan Marshall leave his wife Caroline for her sister Julia…what is Bennet Houskeeper Louise Tate’s secret connection to Gordan Bennett and ex convict Steven Grant..did Alan Marshall frame his old friend Steven… Read more »

Jimh(leave it to beaver)
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Jimh(leave it to beaver)

oop…’ Everyday!’

Rose
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Rose

Giving it a try (with good stories) couldn’t be that much more expensive than all of the misses the’ve had.

Rose
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Rose

JimH…bit of trivia…Not an EVERYDAY PEOPLE, but recently I read Fred Astaire watched The Guiding Light and As The World Turns everyday

Jimh(leave it to beaver)
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Jimh(leave it to beaver)

Tallulah Bankhead was an Edge Of Night fan…one time she got anger over a character cheating on his wife…she called the studio and suggested they have her shoot the-begins with a B-lol…Elizabeth Montgomery and Jackie Kennedy were fans of Dark Shadows…Liz Taylor liked GH…Carol Burnett liked AMC…Sammy Davis was a fan of Love Of Life and Judy Garland watched Another World…there were many famous people who watched the soaps but i didnt know Fred Astaire was one of them…thanks for info…its back to bed for me…i got the flu. Later!

Torrey
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Torrey

That would be nice if they would introduce two half hour soaps, but these networks have proven that they don’t fully stand behind the daytime community or its viewing audience. I still to this day miss my OLTL and AMC….and you are so right with pointing out how the Primetime lineup is soapier and soapier with each new program that airs…But my guess is, once they pull the plug on The Meredith Viera show, they will just replace it with another cheap talk show that no one is interested in.

scott
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scott

Oltl please

boes
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boes

One can only hope. A revitilized One Life to Live, perhaps? I’ll just dream on.

Robert
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Robert

Will this finally wake up the powers that be at ABC to see their failed? ? Bring back AMC, OLTL and other soaps!! NOONE WANTS ANOTHER TALK SHOW OR INFORMATIVE SHOW. PERIOD!!

CeeCee
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CeeCee

Yes, yes, yes….a new soap would be the ticket to happiness for many of us. But, why new? Bring back OLTL. Answer my prayers, ye gods!!!!!!

Llanviewer717
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Llanviewer717

Amen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tim Welles
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Tim Welles

I agree – I know I’m a broken record but they should combine the remnants of ONE LIFE TO LIVE with All My Children and present that as a lead in to GH but please don’t attack me for saying that – don’t worry it won’t happen anyway for I do not know who owns the rights to the shows at this point.
ABC-TV did not even CONSIDER another model for the shows, nor trimming them down to one show, nor combining them. So, let the chips fall
where they may.

Jeanene
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Jeanene

Excellent piece, Michael! No more talk shows, it is overkill. I need OLTL and AMC back. I believe the ratings for these shows were much higher than this current fare. At least CBS has a balance of soaps, talk shows and game shows. When will ABC wake up and realize that people don’t want talk shows, they want their soaps back.

Ricardo
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Ricardo

I love Meredith, but her talk show was boring to watch. We need One Life To Live back. I know I am dreaming but we need Viki Buchanan back, Clint David Vickers, Nora, Nigel and sexy Roxy. Please Please bring back OLTL. Man do I miss that soap. Too many crappy talk shows out there, I know there cheaper to produce. but they are garbage, same crappy topics lol. I hate the chew. all has beens lmao. But I have to say , I love the Talk. That’s all I watch now. I hope they renew Days Of Our Lives.… Read more »

Llanviewer717
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Llanviewer717

I miss our beloved One Life to Live every second!!!!!!!!!!! I also really enjoyed the online All My Children. We want interesting characters and stories. We want someone to care about. Meaningless talk shows do NOT cut it.

robert
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robert

their are way too many daytime talk shows,and are only a few good ones. one of the reasons General Hospital’s ratings have gone down because ABC daytime crumbled and it has no lead in anymore. Look at CBS and their mixed daytime lineup of soaps,game shows,and a talk show,they have something for everybody. One of the reasons Y&R is the number 1 daytime drama is because of The Price is Right lead in,which is the number 1 rated daytime show. General Hospital is all on it’s own now. The View has collapsed in recent years,recentaly being de-throned by the talk.… Read more »

me
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me

While we’re at it, let’s start taking pictures with film again. Then we can go back to putting all music on LP only. While I’m listening to my records, I can wash my clothes by beating them on a rock and hanging them up to dry. While I’m waiting for them to dry, I’ll compose a hand-written note to the networks saying how much I love soaps, and I’ll mail it to them so they’ll get it right away (4 days later). The point is that time marches on, and it is time to move on. People do not watch… Read more »

rebecca1
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rebecca1

Actually vinyl LP records have made and continue to make a comeback. Adele’s record-selling album…pun not intended but oh-so appropro…has come out in vinyl. Hand drying dishes and air drying laundry is favored by some who prefer healthy living and clean air over convenience. The art of letter writing is not dead. It’s more personal…and partcularly recommended when sending a thank you follow up to a job interview. Tony Bennet sings alongside Lady Gaga, Tom Jones still brings in a crowd of all ages, young musicians respect the rock, soul, blues music gods before them…rock n roll will never die….and… Read more »

Timmm
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Timmm

Great post! Love Tom Jones!

Rose
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Rose

Rebecca1…I think you’ve made some really eloquent comments on this story. The thing that bothers me most about a lot of comments on this and other stories is that there seems to be such animosity and lack of respect expressed about new/old and young/ old. We all want a successful GH. Maybe find a better middle ground, and listen and appreciate different opinions without taking it as an attack. GH has always been multi-generational and the characters all seemed to get along. I’d like to think touchy-touchy fans could do the same. 🙂

su0000
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su0000

rebecca1, gotta luv you! vinyl has never went totally away. The connoisseurs of music prefer the vinyl.. What is done now.. Downloading.. downloading your tunes to iPhone, put them on clouds in your playlists.. to be listened by all devices anywhere any time, TV, PC. Tablets, phones and so on, by a click. That is done world wide, the download of music.. Most now do not even have a stack of CD’s, they are fading out too. It is a digital world .. ((I have umm 6 Cd’s, no stereo, and the best music via bluetooth to soundbar or PC… Read more »

rebecca1
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rebecca1

Timmm…Tom Jones! Lol…so do I!

rebecca1
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rebecca1

Rose…thank you. Yes, I agree. The age issue comes up repeatedly on this site and it’s ridiculous. And as I wrote, it’d be great to have the vets along with the generations after them. But we need our vets back… It’s a handful of posters who confinually bring up age. As I’ve said before…they critique how a person dresses, how much sex and lust fhey feel is “appropriate,” or not, based on age…if the person should still have dreams and goals. While of course they’re referring to fictional characters, they’re still aiming their comments and opinions at that age group.… Read more »

CeeCee
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CeeCee

Thank you, me……..some people object to that. I love my soaps…..every genre. But, this is not the same world. I wish soaps could remain the same and forever. Time does march on, as you say, and we must follow the beat. This is exactly what su is trying to impart. Nonetheless both she and I get jumped for saying just what you said, in a different way…….or mention a word, a phrase that does not resonate….get my drift? You hardly ever post anymore, me. I wish you did; you are so en pointe when you write. I love that! Live… Read more »

louisa
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louisa

Talk shows are over because they are now full of dumbed-down material, guests and games. Most of the audience is too smart for that. Many talk shows make you feel bad. Or stupid. Or both. A continuing story, serial drama, soap–whatever you want to call it –is more challenging to the mind, and if done well, makes you feel great. A show with compelling stories and characters, will bring the audience back day after day. Viewers will want to see what will happen, and return to that good feeling a familiar show can bring. Soaps are the ultimate in appointment-viewing… Read more »

CeeCee
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CeeCee

You bet, Louisa. OLTL forever!!!!! Speaking of talk shows…uhmmmm, I know what you mean. I do not want to hear about the panel’s sex life or lack-thereof. I don’t care about those stupid references to ‘vibrators’ either. Too personal and too disgusting for public consumption. I used to love THE VIEW. Now, it has become a joke, with the revolving door, letting anyone join the panel at any given time. I suppose I like structure. THE TALK is made up of hypocrites, but I do like Julie and Sara, though. I enjoy THE View when politics are discussed or medical… Read more »

nicholas
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nicholas

Great topic . This enables me to inform the fans in the United States that the soap ” Days of our lives ” is being cancelled for good in France . France 2 which runs the soap and ran it since september 2000 has decided to extend its morning talk show ” Telematin ” ( French equivalent of the Today show ) and of course the extension just happens to cover Days’s timeslot . Days had good ratings and in fact was winning its timeslot so it is just a cost saving decision . No need for the station to… Read more »

kevin
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kevin

Cancel all the soaps, replace them with reality shows.

Darren
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Darren

Kevin have you lost your mind? lol. Reality shows suck. We need to support the remaining soaps.

elm51
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elm51

all i can say is “another one bites the dust”!!!!!!

Aria
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Aria

It’s scary it feels like daytime will become this dumping ground for talk shows or worst, informercials. I truly feel there is something that can be done and that half hour soaps could work but probably money is the biggest factor and till that’s not an issue then who knows what can happen .

CeeCee
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CeeCee

Yeah, a few of my aunts complain about getting their MTV back…..the way it used to be. It is truly unwatchable now. No music.
So, I think, you are on the right track, Aria. TV will eventually become one big infomercial, cooking shows or annoying chatter.

su0000
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su0000

Hi CeeCee,,
I like ”catfish” on MTV..
The New 24/7 (like old MTV but much better is now-
— Palladia — (on cable)
Shows the concerts and festivals from woodstock era to date.. And bios of bands etc.
(at this moment it is- Pearl Jam, it’s twenty years… playing..
(next up Smashing pumpkins then Dolly Parton and then Paul Mccartney Wings )

CeeCee
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CeeCee

@su.
That’s the point. I don’t know how MTV used to be in the 70’s and 80’s, but apparently it was continuous music videos. My aunt keeps talking about a Nina Blackwell or Blackwood and Martha Quinn. I never watch MTV. I just watch THE VIEW, my soaps, old game shows and a few recorded shows…..usually late at night, in bed with this guy next to me. Lol.
I do love watching Woodstock clips. I love the music.
Must look into it. Thanks, babes.

Phil
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Phil

I don’t think we will ever see another soap on daytime network television. Would lover to see GL resurrected but very doubtful. Heck a new soap staring Kassie DePaiva would be cool too!

Phil
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Phil

Come to think of it GL on NBC would be outstanding. Number one it is where GL started in radio and number two DAYS/GL crossovers could be fun!

Torqumada
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Torqumada

I miss Springfield.

Timmm
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Timmm

“Jesse’s Girl” rocked!

Bella
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Bella

Why not try to get OLTL and/or Y&R on one of the other stations (WB, Fox, etc.)? I’ll never trust ABC/D again. I can’t imagine the actors from these 2 beloved soaps would trust them again, either.

I miss the soap channel (Soapnet)!

su0000
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su0000

ABC could not get rid of the 2 soaps after they were canceled not one, not one, network wanted them,, and now with low ratings and high cost no network will take them on..

Llanviewer717
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Llanviewer717

I doubt seriously the alphabet network tried to sell AMC and OLTL. Both are their property and the alphabet people are known for not wanting to part with what is theirs.

Bella
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Bella

Oops, I meant AMC, not Y&R.

Vicki
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Vicki

So the rating are telling you something, NOBODY wants what you Are offering us in the programming . So when you start listening to the people who watch the soaps maybe you will bring them back. God knows it seems like you want them at night time so what is wrong with daytime soaps again. Listen to your viewers because they are NOT watching what you are offering. So you either want viewers or not, you are so.busy shoveling this poor programming down our throats just so you don’t have to admit YOU made a mistake. So bite the bullet… Read more »

mike
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mike

The one soap that I think could make a comeback is Edge of Night. It was a mystery based show that could be made to appeal to male and female viewers.

Jimh(leave it to beaver)
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Jimh(leave it to beaver)

I miss E.O.N. and would love to see it return but it would be difficult to find a mystery writer as good as Henry Slezar-one could hope…i wouldnt mind a primetime version!!!

Lou Piikes
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Lou Piikes

I would give anything to to a reboot of Edge of Night. A new soap doesn’t have to be on 5 days a week. The networks can have a talk show or game show on for two days of the week and the other three days a soap. It would save the networks tons of money.

mgb357
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mgb357

the Edge of Night was always my favorite show..

after it was cancelled by cbs it got picked up on anc and floundered in the daytime there…..

some of the writers and actors moved over to oltl.. thats when i started to watch One Life….

sandie
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sandie

They should have NEVER messed with the soaps in the first place!!! All that is on now is crap! Put OLTL and AMC back on,,,they may be surprised by how many would love to have them back

su0000
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su0000

;; many ;; would not want them back, only their old fans would want them back, and many are long gone or aged.. only low numbers of their fans are left to even tune in, not even nearly enough to invest in and they are not what the sponsors want (the young demo) anyways. In this day no executive/network would ever invest in daytime outdated soap operas that mainly older people watch (not of the prime demo), soaps are dinosaurs, and they will never invest in new soaps… I hate hate hate that, but is fact 🙁 🙁 . daytime… Read more »

Liz
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Liz

The thing that they forgot is that the soap fans were the loyal talk show viewers. Who do,you think helped Oprah skyrocket into fame? The soap fans, especially the OLTL & AMC fans are too angry with ABC to tolerate them spoon feeding us this drivel we are supposed to like and forget that they cancelled our shows. Well, I am probably the average demographic soap viewer. I’m 57 and well established with a lot of disposable income. The networks need me and those like me but are too stupid to realize. I despise being handled and told what I… Read more »

Llanviewer717
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Llanviewer717

I understand how you fell Liz. I have not and will not watch anything aired on or produced by the alphabet network or the mouse company since the last day One Life to Live aired.

Thank you for pointing out the fact that Kelly Ripa failed to acknowledge David Canary’s passing on her show. It would not surprise me one bit if TPTB instructed her not to say anything. After the millions and millions of dollars David Canary helped generate for the alphabet network, that omission is beyond disrespectful. It is completely heartless.

Timmm
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Timmm

Kelly is a network puppet! RIP David.

CeeCee
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CeeCee

Oh, Wow! She did? I don’t watch TV that early in the morning, so I missed that. Golly, David played Kelly’s father forever. How could she have not mentioned his passing? That is just so weird, rude and insensitive.

nicholas
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nicholas

I would give anything to see the soaps ” Santa Barbara ” , ” Guiding light ” , ” Another World ” be revived with brand new episodes but 5 days a week and indeed in a half hour format . I miss these soaps so much . It took me years to get over the losses of ” Santa Barbara ” and ” Another World ” . Cruz and Eden , Mason and Julia , Keith and Gina , Lionel and Augusta , Kelly , Ted , CC , Sophia … Josh and Reva , Blake and Ross ,… Read more »

Yolanda Arias-Arenas
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Yolanda Arias-Arenas

Soap operas were always known for pushing the envelope but it seems like they didn’t keep up with the times. If TV execs think we want more talk shows, they’re insane. They can figure out a way to make soaps popular again and get back all the viewers they lost and then some.

su0000
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su0000

Soaps are daytime tv.. no younger peoples are home to watch. And wouldn’t spend 3 months trying to involved in them, not gonna happen..
Soaps are for and of the older demo that sponsors do not want.
When these 4 are gone that will be it, gone forever.

KM
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KM

You have to keep in mind that the days when soaps were considered to push the envelope were also the days when there were a very limited number of channels available and most primetime shows were wholesome family fare. Topical stories like AMC’s Erica Kane having the first abortion on TV was a story that you’d never see in primetime and so was groundbreaking for the time but I don’t know what kind of story a soap could tell today that isn’t already being told by other network and cable shows and is often told better because those other shows… Read more »

William
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William

I think CBS has the perfect format for the modern time two game shows two soaps and a talk show. ABC would do well to create a 30 minute new soap that melds OLTL into AMC sort of how Loving turned into The City. Then do a half hour new or revived game show. They would then have The View, new AMC/OLTL, new game show, The Chew and cap off with GH. That would give them a nice full daytime block to work with. And build upon what people loved from the network. NBC would need the most help but… Read more »

Lou Piikes
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Lou Piikes

What do you mean by AH live?

William
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William

Access Hollywood Live.

Cathy
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Cathy

GH had a great lead in the Chew and it still failed. Yes the Chew had and has better ratings than GH and even propped GH with GH actora appearing on the Chew. How about GH being good enough to stand on it’s own without needing help. GH is terrible under this regime. Scrubs are leaving and they are still using Robin to prop Liz, Sam and Jason instead of giving her more airtime for herself and SCRUBS. Robin shoukd have told many people off including her mother, husband and people like Liz and Sam instead of thanking them.

james r
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james r

I think ABC needs to bring back One Life to Live in place of. The horrible Fab. Life. I also think that. The. View needs to end andmove the Chew to that timeslot and bring back
All my Children. The network needs to admit their mistake. Everything excewpt. The
Chew has failed.

Mary SF
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Mary SF

The sad reality is broadcast television as we know it is dying out and is being replaced by streaming services such as Netflix and the like. This is where the money and talent is going which is why these services are offering better fare than network. And since streaming allows viewers to watch when they want to watch the old boundaries that existed between daytime and prime time are going the way of dodo bird. So no network is going to invest the time, money or talent into creating a new daytime soap. But steaming does lend itself to the… Read more »

su0000
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su0000

hi Mary SF..
I doubt that will happen.. it would have a very small audience.
only the long time soap fans would watch and not all of them except from that era, for sure.
They will not invest in what older, not of the coveted demo, people would watch.
No younger people will tune in to watch, not going to happen.
Their soaps, now called series are on cable and Netflix and absolutely nothing like PG daytime.

james r
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james r

Did I hear correctly that the rights to One Life and AMC go back. To ABC if
Prospect fails??

su0000
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su0000

AMC and OLTL are leased and in possession of of Prospect Park for 10 years since 2012.. unless that has changed I have heard of no change and ABC will not get them back until 2022 LOL .. something as that.

dolores
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dolores

I agree with Liz and Trophy Lady completely – of course we need a GOOD lead in for GH and bringing back OLTL & AMC would be it – but NOT with the newER writers that took over on HULU – there were tremendous storylines yet to be unfolded with actors that knew their craft – bring them back, give them classic storylines and watch the viewers come back! GH is great right there…supporting them all the way! I watch no talk shows – opinions being rattled all day long – read the papers instead of listening to people just… Read more »

Jp
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Jp

Bring back one life to live and amc in a half hour format each. Just admit you made a mistake abc and you ll get back some of those viewers who left your network when you cancelled these iconic shows.

Michael
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Michael

After so many mistakes it’s a bit surprising that ABC doesn’t understand the incredible ratings bonanza they could have with a well produced, well written, highly publicized return of One Life and All My Kids. Soaps are an art form that needs to be preserved.

CeeCee
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CeeCee

How dare you call a spade a spade, Suzie Q? LOL. They are old, you are not saying anything untrue, su. I know what you mean. And, I do agree on many of your points. But, young or old, romance never gets old, and a good writer knows that.

nicholas
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nicholas

I would watch revived versions of Santa Barbara , Guiding light and Another World but only if the standard and quality is there . No point in bringing back a show if the quality isn’t there . If the networks can’t revive these soaps why not rerun a few episodes of them over the summer holidays or something . Rather watch a good soap than a stupid info/ talk or reality show . Can’t believe the networks are letting the soap industry die !! I had no idea only 4 soaps remain on air at present .

Lesley
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Lesley

England has a soap called Coronation Street that has been around for 50 yrs. Maybe import this show or a soap opera from Australia? It has to be cheaper than producing a new soap. PS I refuse to watch The Chew because it took the place of my soaps.

Helen
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Helen

I love the chew, AMC deserved to get cancelled. the ratings fell and the storylines were terrible. OLTL willcome back to ABC, its a matter of time. I know some scoop about Brian Frons, and its not pretty.

CeeCee
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CeeCee

You really think so, Helen? OLTL will come back? Be still my heart!!

Josh
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Josh

Brian Frons needs to whipped, and locked in a jail cell. I hate the man for cancelling AMC AND OLTL. Bad karma is coming to this idiot.

Jimh(leave it to beaver)
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Jimh(leave it to beaver)

I love Coronation Street…it currently my favorite series…some may not understand the accent…i rarely have a problem with that…their realistic stories center around the middle class working families dealing with issues we can all identify with, children age at a more normal rate and the dead usually stay dead…the vets get front and center treatment even if not their storyline…but in England even their soap viewership is down-still wish it could be aired on one of the three networks!!!

jimbo
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jimbo

miss OLTL like hell. in the meantime I found CORONATION STREET. agree — it takes me about 10 minutes to adjust my ear to the accent, but they’ve got great storylines. and they toss in great brit talk (“gobsmacked” and “hoover the carpet.”) hulu has several years’ worth for free. I binge-watch them about five at a time.

nicholas
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nicholas

I know that they tried with Neighbours but it was a flop in the states . Home and Away and Neighbours both flopped in France

Timmm
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Timmm

Meredith is a nice lady. She is a lady you can sit down with and carry a conversation. Oprah was an institution! What she said was law. She could make dreams come true and attract top celebrities. Before her it was Phil Donahue. I loved him. His show was usually more serious but he would throw you for a loop every so often and do a pop culture show. These two shows were MUST SEE. What is anymore? The Kardashians? [Hurry, get me a bucket!] Talk shows are dead! Everything we need to know is one TWEET away! So what… Read more »

lou piikes
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lou piikes

The network won’t invest in another daytime soap because they don’t make money. Teens and young adults of today didn’t grow up watching soap operas. There parents worked and didn’t pass on this tradition. The networks will have to repackage daytime serials to fit today’s audience.

Kaylie15
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Kaylie15

Exactly! There are new soaps, but they are web series. Young people want to watch what they want when they want it. There are more scripted TV shows than ever before, and people don’t want to wait. American soaps didn’t keep up with technology and make their content averrable on streaming, so users pirated scenes on youtube killing viewership. If people love characters and a story, they will run to youtube from school or offices on their phones or desktops. Nobody is going to wait until they get home anymore because they don’t have to. In the UK, soaps are… Read more »

Tim Welles
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Tim Welles

I understand what you are saying Kaylie15 and I was one of those who subscribed to HULU (which I watch on a Roku Device) so that I could follow ALL MY CHILDREN and OLTL in their on-line inceptions. Unfortunately, due to the mismanagement of Prospect Park or for what ever reason, the shows did not do well presented in this manner. I do watch Days of Our Lives but I watch it on the NBC App – through a Roku device. So, yes, viewing habits have changed and I wish that these two shows would have thrived because it might… Read more »

KM
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KM

The ABC pretty much tried repackaging in the late 90s with the GH spinoff Port Charles. It still had enough familiarity (in theory at least) to appeal to core GH fans but was also designed to appeal to a younger audience who didn’t need 20 years of history with the show to make the characters and storylines accessible to new fans. It floundered until they bought a couple more years copying Passions witches and vampires camp in the vein of the old Dark Shadows which attracted a cult following for a while but all three soaps only lasted maybe 5… Read more »

Lou Piikes
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Lou Piikes

OLTL and AMC were really popular on Hulu and itunes. The problem was ad revenue from Hulu wasn’t enough to keep production afloat. On top of that PP had to pay ABC/D royalty fees. If PP would have charged a subscription fee on their TOLN network, I think both AMC and OLTL both productions would be online today.

sarah
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sarah

I honestly feel like ( I might be naive to say this so call me out if I am) if one of the networks invested in a new soap that the loyal viewers of the other four soaps would definitely all invest time into watching it especially if it was very well done with both writing & acting, ect. Soap opera still work & they can work so well. Yes ratings are down from its heyday but all ratings are down & yes soaps are more expensive but when they are done well they definitely succeed. It really is just… Read more »

su0000
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su0000

hi sarah,
A thought-
Many watch 2, 3, 4, soaps now.
How on earth could they squeeze another into the list.. That would be 5 hours of soaps watching, daily.
I watch 2 soaps, and I gotta say- its all I have time for.. I could never handle another one lol .. I watch online and that really scoots the time way down, for both.

sarah
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sarah

thats why the half hour format would work so well because most people DVR these days or watch it on POP if they miss it. A half hour soap runs between 17-19 minutes without commercials. At the moment I do watch B&B & GH so I would certainly have to time to pick up 1 more soap if it was in the half-hour format yes not everyone is going to want to ad another soap to their line especially if they are currently watching all four soaps but I could easily see people who are passionate about the soap opera… Read more »

Timmm
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Timmm

Thats the nail on the head lou, IF there was money to be made, there would be 10 daytime soaps on the air today!

Omar
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Omar

Bring back OLTL and AMC..Both 30 minutes show with smaller casts , crew and sets: hence, money saved!
I bet the ratings for that hour will go way up than any other lifestyle/talk show ..A bit more money, but more viewers = more ad revenue for the network! We are a loyal core fan base.

Lou Piikes
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Lou Piikes

Both OLTL and AMC trend older. In order to attract the 18-34 ABC/D would need a name change, revamp the shows to appeal to today’s audience. Young folks won’t sit down and watch a show five days a week.

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DAYS Alum Molly Burnett Promoted To Series Regular on ‘Queen of the South’

Wanna know where you can find Salem’s Melanie Layton, sorta?  You can watch her killing it on USA’s drama Queen of the South.  That”s where former Days of our Lives star, Molly Burnett has just been upped to series regular for the show’s upcoming fifth season.

According to Deadline who broke the news, Burnett will continue to play her complex and delicious role of Kelly Anne.

Soap fans Molly as Melanie on DAYS from 2008-2016 and when she stepped into play the role of Maxie Jones for Kirsten Storms on General Hospital in 2016.

Queen of the South is based on the bestselling book La Reina del Sur by Arturo Pérez-Reverte. It tells the story of Teresa Mendoza (Alice Braga), a woman who is forced to run from the Mexican cartel and seek refuge in America.

Burnett’s Kelly Anne is a frequent member of Teresa’s drug operation, has already killed her abusive husband, was an informant, and had a cocaine habit.  When viewers last saw Kelly Anne she was finding her sobriety and her way back into the Teresa’s operations in New Orleans.

Since exiting Days in 2014, Burnett has also been seen on  CSI: Cyber, Relationship Status and True Blood. 

So intrigued to watch Molly on Queen of the South? Comment below.

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Kiara Barnes To Perform Her Original Song On The Bold and the Beautiful

Tomorrow on the October 20th episode of The Bold and the Beautiful watch for Kiara Barnes to perform an original new song that she wrote specifically for the CBS Daytime drama series.

Barnes who is not only an actress, but a recording artist, will sing her  track, I’m Just Fine” as her character Zoe Buckingham ,

Previously in 2018, Kiara released an EP, entitled Sirens to the Moon, which you can find streaming on Spotify and Apple Music/iTunes.

 

In a tweet today, Barnes shared: “New song for  @BandB_CBS  debuting tomorrow! I’m excited for y’all to hear it”

So will you be checking out Kiara’s new song for B&B?  Do you want Zoe to end up with Zende, Carter, or someone else romantically? Weigh-in and let us know via the comment section below!

 

 

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As the World Turns Cast To Perform Virtual Reading Of Final Episode

In a once-in-a soap-lifetime event during the Covid-19 pandemic, the cast of As the World Turns will reunite for one night online for a virtual reading of the CBS daytime drama’s final episode that aired back 10 years ago this past September,

This livestream event is for a good cause and is brought to you by former ATWT cast member, Trent Dawson’s (Ex-Henry) theatre group The Katonah Classic Stage.  Dawson is the artistic director there.

Over 26 veteran cast members from ATWT, including Larry Bryggman, Don Hastings, Kathryn Hays, Elizabeth Hubbard, Michael Park and more are set to participate in the reading plus some surprise guests.

The show will be streamed  n The Locher Room YouTube channel, 0n Wednesday night, October 28th at 8 p.m. EST/5 p.m. PST, where fans will also  have the opportunity to comment and ask questions of the cast,

The event is asking for a $15 donation to be able to see it and you can click here for more info!

Working with Katonah Classic Stage (KCS), a professional, nonprofit theatre group an hour north from New York City, Dawson is hoping this event will help those in need.  KCS has access to outdoor performance space that can provide a safer, more  socially-distant experience for the artists and the audience. The fundraiser not only  applies to salaries, but to health care as well; without employment most artists are ineligible for health coverage during a time when such insurance is critically important.

So what do you think of getting these beloved stars from ATWT together for a good cause to relive and read the script of the final episode from Oakdale? Comment below.

 

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